Latest / The Ben Ferguson Podcast / Trump Endorses in Indiana, Louisiana, Kentucky & Texas, Castro about to be Indicted, and Dems’ Disgraceful History on Race
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Well, come in is verdict with Center, Ted Cruz, Ben
- 0:02Speaker 1: Ferguson with You and Center. We've got a lot of
- 0:06Speaker 1: news that's happening, including a big runoff election day in America,
- 0:10Speaker 1: and there are a lot of results that have come
- 0:12Speaker 1: in and it did not look good for people that
- 0:14Speaker 1: didn't get the endorsement of Donald Trump.
- 0:16Speaker 2: Well, elections in America. Turns out that Donald Trump's endorsement
- 0:20Speaker 2: has enormous potency in a Republican primary that was not
- 0:23Speaker 2: really much in doubt two weeks ago, but it's an
- 0:27Speaker 2: even less doubt today. We're going to talk about the
- 0:30Speaker 2: results there. We're also going to talk about the pending
- 0:33Speaker 2: news coming out today that the Trump Department of Justice
- 0:38Speaker 2: is expected to indict Raoul Castro in Cuba. We're going
- 0:41Speaker 2: to break that down as well. And we're also going
- 0:44Speaker 2: to talk about fireworks on the Senate Judiciary Committee, in
- 0:46Speaker 2: particular a battle over racial jerrymandering. The Democrats trying to
- 0:52Speaker 2: claim they have clean hands, that racial gerrymandering is a
- 0:55Speaker 2: wonderful thing, and you know, I did my very best
- 0:59Speaker 2: this week to hold them to account.
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- 3:03Speaker 1: so centator. There's leave no doubt in this country. Donald
- 3:07Speaker 1: Trump's endorsement extremely important, and if you didn't get his endorsement,
- 3:12Speaker 1: it is not good news for you if you're a
- 3:14Speaker 1: Republican running for office. Now, there's two ways to interpret this.
- 3:18Speaker 1: I interpreted this way simply. Donald Trump's agenda is what's
- 3:22Speaker 1: on the ballot in this midterm election coming up. Redistricting
- 3:25Speaker 1: is a part of that. If you are not standing
- 3:28Speaker 1: and fighting with Donald Trump, then there's a lot of
- 3:30Speaker 1: American voters that say we want someone different. And clearly
- 3:33Speaker 1: that was the thought process for many people that went
- 3:35Speaker 1: to the voting booth.
- 3:36Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 3:37Speaker 2: Look, in the last two weeks, we've had four illustration
- 3:39Speaker 2: of the potency of President Trump's endorsement. We had, first
- 3:42Speaker 2: of all, Indiana, So Indiana, President Trump and the White
- 3:47Speaker 2: House asked Indiana to redistrict, to redraw their congressional map
- 3:50Speaker 2: to gain additional Republican seats. The Indiana legislature refused. They
- 3:56Speaker 2: rebuke the president. They said no, we're not going to
- 3:58Speaker 2: do that, and the President got pissed off. And so
- 4:01Speaker 2: there were seven Indiana state senators that Trump endorsed against,
- 4:08Speaker 2: and five of them were defeated in their primaries. That
- 4:11Speaker 2: was two weeks ago. It was really a striking result
- 4:15Speaker 2: that if you stand up and defy the president, if
- 4:19Speaker 2: you declare I'm opposed to the president. At least in
- 4:22Speaker 2: the Republican Party, there is no never Trump lane in
- 4:25Speaker 2: the Republican Party. That does not exist, or it does
- 4:28Speaker 2: not exist with any staying power. The never Trump lane
- 4:34Speaker 2: is largely non existent. Then we saw the state Louisiana,
- 4:39Speaker 2: State Louisiana. My colleague Bill Cassidy, the incumbent Republican Senator
- 4:43Speaker 2: from Louisiana, was in a primary President Trump endorsed against
- 4:48Speaker 2: him and Louisiana has a multi person primary. They require
- 4:55Speaker 2: that in order to win, you got to win a majority.
- 4:57Speaker 2: So if you don't win a majority, the top two
- 4:59Speaker 2: go to irun off. What ended up happening in Louisiana
- 5:02Speaker 2: is two other candidates, Julia Letlowe and John Fleming, ended
- 5:07Speaker 2: up winning the primary, and Bill Cassidy, the incumbent Republican senator,
- 5:13Speaker 2: did not make the top two, so he was defeated.
- 5:16Speaker 2: He's not going to be in the runoff, so he
- 5:17Speaker 2: will not be a senator next year. And that was
- 5:21Speaker 2: a powerful illustration. Cassidy had millions of dollars behind him. Look,
- 5:25Speaker 2: Cassidy's most significant step that he took is that he
- 5:29Speaker 2: voted to convict President Trump during the impeachment I'll tell you,
- 5:33Speaker 2: I was sitting next to Bill Cassidy. He and I
- 5:35Speaker 2: are seats on the floor of the Senate, were next
- 5:38Speaker 2: to each other during the impeachment trial. When he cast
- 5:42Speaker 2: that vote to convict, it felt like he knew what
- 5:47Speaker 2: he was doing. It felt like he knew that he
- 5:49Speaker 2: was ending his political career. I was surprised. I think
- 5:54Speaker 2: most Republicans were surprised. We did not anticipate that Bill
- 5:57Speaker 2: Cassidy would vote to.
- 5:58Speaker 1: Convict That was a shock in the moment when it happened.
- 6:02Speaker 1: If you take pell back to that day, it wasn't
- 6:04Speaker 1: like he was out on TV talking about how he
- 6:06Speaker 1: was going to convict Don Trump. It wasn't like he
- 6:08Speaker 1: was Democrats in the media were not floating. That is
- 6:11Speaker 1: a real possibility. And then when it happened, I remember,
- 6:14Speaker 1: it was a total shock on social media at that moment.
- 6:17Speaker 2: Look and Louisiana is now a bright red state, and
- 6:21Speaker 2: so it was that vote was costly. He did not
- 6:24Speaker 2: make the top two. He will not be either Fleming
- 6:28Speaker 2: or Letlow will be the next Senator from Louisiana, but
- 6:32Speaker 2: it will not be Bill Cassidy. And so the Trump
- 6:35Speaker 2: endorsement was demonstrated to be extremely potent. Then we saw
- 6:40Speaker 2: tonight you and I are here. It is eleven nineteen
- 6:43Speaker 2: pm and tonight in Kentucky, Thomas Massey, incumbent Republican congressman,
- 6:50Speaker 2: has been defeated. Has been defeated, but it looks like
- 6:53Speaker 2: maybe up to ten points. Then the numbers are still
- 6:56Speaker 2: being counted. Massy look Massy to win by big margins.
- 7:01Speaker 2: Massey is a libertarian. Massy is in some ways. He's massy,
- 7:07Speaker 2: is similar to Rand Paul, but in the House.
- 7:09Speaker 1: He's a Rand Paul of the House in essence.
- 7:12Speaker 2: Yeah, but but and and listen, President Trump endorsed against him,
- 7:16Speaker 2: leaned in against him. They had a Navy seal running
- 7:18Speaker 2: against him. Who's who was a strong Donald Trump supporter.
- 7:22Speaker 2: And listen, I know Thomas Thomas is a very smart guy.
- 7:25Speaker 2: He's an MIT graduate, He's a principled libertarian. I don't
- 7:30Speaker 2: doubt that he believes what he's doing. But but I
- 7:33Speaker 2: will say Thomas's tenure in the House had become simply
- 7:38Speaker 2: relentless votes against Trump. He voted no, no, no, no,
- 7:43Speaker 2: no on everything. He voted no on the Big Reconciliation Bill,
- 7:47Speaker 2: the one big beautiful bill, also called the Working Family's
- 7:49Speaker 2: Tax Cut. And it got to the point that I
- 7:53Speaker 2: think President Trump was really frustrated. Listen, if we had
- 7:58Speaker 2: if we had a huge majority, if we had two
- 8:00Speaker 2: hundred and fifty Republicans in the House, you only need
- 8:03Speaker 2: two eighteen for a majority, it wouldn't hurt to have
- 8:06Speaker 2: a constant no vote. But if you vote against President
- 8:09Speaker 2: Trump all the time, and if you vote with the
- 8:12Speaker 2: Democrats almost all the time, that's frustrating. When you have
- 8:16Speaker 2: a one or two vote margin in the House, it
- 8:19Speaker 2: really hurts. If you want to be an op ed
- 8:21Speaker 2: columnist and say I am against everything. No no, no, no, no. Fine,
- 8:26Speaker 2: write your columns, express your opinions. But when you're in
- 8:30Speaker 2: an incredibly narrow congressional body, those votes have consequence. I
- 8:35Speaker 2: will say also Thomas's votes and positions on Israel. This
- 8:41Speaker 2: was a bitter, nasty primary. He had a he had
- 8:46Speaker 2: a line when he was conceding his race where he
- 8:49Speaker 2: said it took some time to call his opponent to
- 8:52Speaker 2: concede because it took some time to track him down
- 8:54Speaker 2: and Tel Aviv. That was gratuitous, that was unnecessary. I
- 8:59Speaker 2: get that Thomas's unhappy that he lost, but that kind
- 9:03Speaker 2: of nastiness I wish she hadn't done that. There's no
- 9:08Speaker 2: doubt but for Donald Trump, Thomas Massey wins, and so
- 9:12Speaker 2: Trump endorsed against him, leaned in hard. He wanted a
- 9:16Speaker 2: House member who will vote with him, and the challenger
- 9:20Speaker 2: who beat Massey will win the general election. He will
- 9:23Speaker 2: vote with Trump consistently. And then today we got the
- 9:26Speaker 2: bombshell news and in Ben, you're in my home state
- 9:29Speaker 2: of Texas, which is that President Trump endorsed Ken Paxton
- 9:33Speaker 2: against John Cornet. As we're sitting here right now, the
- 9:38Speaker 2: primary for Senate is unfolding in Texas. We're in early votes.
- 9:42Speaker 2: I voted yesterday. I voted on Monday, the first day
- 9:45Speaker 2: of early votes, and Texas early votes run from Monday
- 9:47Speaker 2: to Friday, and then election day is next Tuesday. And
- 9:52Speaker 2: this is already the most expensive primary in US history.
- 9:55Speaker 2: Just the primary, the two candidates spent over one hundred
- 9:58Speaker 2: million dollars in the off. We don't have the firm
- 10:02Speaker 2: numbers yet, but my guess is well over fifty million
- 10:04Speaker 2: dollars will have been spent in the runoff. So I
- 10:06Speaker 2: think all told, this will be over one hundred and
- 10:09Speaker 2: fifty million dollars in a primary. So it's by a
- 10:12Speaker 2: massive margin, the most expensive Senate primary in the history
- 10:15Speaker 2: of the country. And look, keyword, by the way, is primary,
- 10:20Speaker 2: because now you've got money going in the general election
- 10:22Speaker 2: as well after this, which is going to be a
- 10:24Speaker 2: ton of money as well. Listen, we don't know for
- 10:27Speaker 2: a fact what will happen on election Day, but any
- 10:30Speaker 2: observer will acknowledge that President Trump's endorsement makes it significantly
- 10:36Speaker 2: more likely that Ken Paxston wins. How much more likely,
- 10:38Speaker 2: I don't know, but given what we've seen the last
- 10:41Speaker 2: two weeks, nobody can dispute the Trump endorsement is a
- 10:44Speaker 2: big deal. And so this has been a powerful demonstration
- 10:48Speaker 2: of the President that he wants. He wants members of
- 10:50Speaker 2: the House, he wants members of the Senate who stand
- 10:52Speaker 2: with him, who support support him, and if they don't,
- 10:57Speaker 2: they're real consequences.
- 11:00Speaker 1: You mention that because there's even some that reached out
- 11:02Speaker 1: to me, and I had media people that were calling saying, hey,
- 11:05Speaker 1: we want to have you talk about this exact as
- 11:08Speaker 1: you just described with this. You know, why did the
- 11:10Speaker 1: president dorse when he did? Was it worth it? Should
- 11:13Speaker 1: he just stay out of the primary with Cornyn? Because
- 11:15Speaker 1: there are consequences. Cassie is another example of this with
- 11:19Speaker 1: consequences because now there's real talk about about the War
- 11:23Speaker 1: Powers Act now getting fast tracked because you have I
- 11:26Speaker 1: think it's for if I'm not mistaken. As of before
- 11:28Speaker 1: we start the show, the latest as I saw as
- 11:30Speaker 1: four Senate Republicans are now willing to go and say yeah,
- 11:35Speaker 1: we're gonna We're gonna now talk about the warst Power
- 11:37Speaker 1: Act and maybe taking away some power from the president.
- 11:40Speaker 2: Yeah, So we had a vote today. The Democrats have
- 11:43Speaker 2: done repeated I think it's been about a dozen now
- 11:46Speaker 2: War Powers Act resolutions trying to restrict the president's power
- 11:52Speaker 2: to wage war in Iran, to defend this nation and
- 11:54Speaker 2: to take out the Iranian regime. They have lost every
- 11:58Speaker 2: one of those until today, and they've had voting in
- 12:02Speaker 2: favor of them has been Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski
- 12:05Speaker 2: and Rand Paul. But today, for the first time, they
- 12:09Speaker 2: won because they got a fourth vote Bill Cassidy. And
- 12:11Speaker 2: I assume I've not talked to Bill. I did not
- 12:13Speaker 2: see Bill today, but I assume he's pissed. He's pissed
- 12:16Speaker 2: the President endorsed against him. He's pissed he lost. And
- 12:19Speaker 2: I don't think it's a crazy assumption that he's going
- 12:22Speaker 2: to be pissed the rest of the year. It's going
- 12:23Speaker 2: to be complicated on votes. If Cornyn Law loses, I
- 12:28Speaker 2: can imagine he's going to be pissed as well. And
- 12:31Speaker 2: so that dynamic when we have a fifty three to
- 12:33Speaker 2: forty seven majority, if we have several members. Tom Tillis
- 12:38Speaker 2: is not running again and he has been quite expressed
- 12:41Speaker 2: a lot of animosity towards the president. Mitch McConnell's not
- 12:44Speaker 2: running again, He's expressed a lot of animosity towards the president.
- 12:48Speaker 2: That makes the Senate complicated. If you've got a three
- 12:50Speaker 2: vote majority and you have four or five senators who
- 12:52Speaker 2: are pissed at the president. That ain't easy. By the way,
- 12:56Speaker 2: another result that happened today was the Kentucky Senate race.
- 13:00Speaker 2: So the race to replace Mitch McConnell. Mitch is not
- 13:02Speaker 2: running for reelection. You had multiple candidates running, and it
- 13:08Speaker 2: was close. It was a bitterly, hotly contested race. Millions
- 13:12Speaker 2: of dollars were spent. Trump a week or two ago
- 13:16Speaker 2: endorsed Andy Barr, who's a congressman, and that basically ended
- 13:20Speaker 2: the race. Barr won the primary to day, I think
- 13:23Speaker 2: about about sixty five percent was the last number I saw.
- 13:27Speaker 2: But once Trump endorsed, the race was over. And so
- 13:32Speaker 2: his endorsement clearly has a lot of potency, and I
- 13:36Speaker 2: think he wants senators and House members that are going
- 13:39Speaker 2: to stand with him and fight for the agenda that
- 13:41Speaker 2: he was elected to fight for. And there's a reason
- 13:44Speaker 2: that I had been Donald Trump's single strongest ally in
- 13:47Speaker 2: the Senate for ten years because I believe in the
- 13:50Speaker 2: agenda he's fighting for. And listen, Trump, by far, his
- 13:56Speaker 2: greatest attribute is he has a cast iron backbone. He
- 14:01Speaker 2: is a courageous fighter, and he's willing to stand up
- 14:04Speaker 2: and fight, and that I and so many other Republicans
- 14:07Speaker 2: have been frustrated by Republicans who were jellyfish, who are
- 14:11Speaker 2: afraid of a fight, and so I'm glad to see
- 14:13Speaker 2: the President standing up and standing up for what he
- 14:15Speaker 2: believes in.
- 14:16Speaker 1: Is it a fair assessment to say that for Donald
- 14:19Speaker 1: Trump it may be really tough for him on the
- 14:22Speaker 1: Senate side, as you mentioned, through the end of the year,
- 14:26Speaker 1: but there's a real now possibility that Donald Trump could
- 14:29Speaker 1: have even more power in the Senate moving forward because
- 14:33Speaker 1: of some of these changes that are coming. And yeah,
- 14:35Speaker 1: there's going to be retribution until they're out of office
- 14:38Speaker 1: and you know, at the end of the year January technically,
- 14:40Speaker 1: but like, this could be very interesting to see that
- 14:44Speaker 1: he went in knowing, Hey, I'm going to have a
- 14:46Speaker 1: hard you know, five six months here, seven months here,
- 14:49Speaker 1: but by golly, it's going to get a lot better
- 14:51Speaker 1: for two more years after that.
- 14:53Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, if you look at how President Trump
- 14:56Speaker 2: has done this, I don't think he has abused his
- 15:01Speaker 2: decisions on this. It has not been the case that
- 15:05Speaker 2: if somebody disagrees with the President on one particular issue,
- 15:08Speaker 2: that that that is discreet and not that consequential, that
- 15:11Speaker 2: that that he responds with with with you know, massive retribution.
- 15:17Speaker 2: It has been. Look, Cassidy voted to convict him and
- 15:19Speaker 2: to peach him and remove him from office. That's a
- 15:22Speaker 2: big damn deal. That's not a small vote. The Indiana
- 15:26Speaker 2: State legislators look, the Democrats that Jerrymander the heck out
- 15:30Speaker 2: of much of the country. President Trump wanted Republicans to
- 15:33Speaker 2: counterbalance that, and the Indiana State Legislators told the president
- 15:36Speaker 2: go jump in a lake. That that was significant. You
- 15:40Speaker 2: look at Thomas Massey. It's not like Thomas Massey just
- 15:43Speaker 2: voted against the president on one vote. He voted against
- 15:46Speaker 2: the President on almost every single vote, over and over
- 15:49Speaker 2: and over again.
- 15:50Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say Massey was fighting harder
- 15:52Speaker 1: against Donald Trump than he was even the Democrats out there.
- 15:55Speaker 2: And I will say, at least the political retribution for Massey,
- 15:59Speaker 2: I don't know how he could vote against Trump more
- 16:01Speaker 2: like at this point, when the Speaker of the House
- 16:04Speaker 2: is counting votes in the House, he counts all the
- 16:07Speaker 2: Democrats as to know, and he counts Massi as a no.
- 16:10Speaker 2: So it's not like MASSI can vote no twice. He's
- 16:12Speaker 2: going to vote no. He was voting no before. He'll
- 16:14Speaker 2: keep voting no. And so I think the President acted
- 16:18Speaker 2: to say, look, I need people in the House who
- 16:20Speaker 2: actually support me.
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- 17:54Speaker 1: and this is happening as you and I were getting
- 17:56Speaker 1: ready to do the show. There is word now that
- 18:00Speaker 1: if there could be indictments coming from the DOJ against
- 18:03Speaker 1: the Castro regime family members. This is significant break it down.
- 18:08Speaker 1: And what does this actually mean if it does happen
- 18:10Speaker 1: in the next twenty four hours.
- 18:11Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't know a whole lot of details right
- 18:14Speaker 2: now because it is Tuesday night. The Department of Justice
- 18:18Speaker 2: sent out an advisory there's an event tomorrow at Miami's
- 18:22Speaker 2: Freedom Tower to honor the victims of the Brothers to
- 18:26Speaker 2: the Rescue murderers, and Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche is
- 18:30Speaker 2: expected to attend, and a Castro indictment is expected to
- 18:36Speaker 2: be announced. So what we are anticipating is that the
- 18:39Speaker 2: Department of Justice will indict Raoul Castro. Raoul Castro is
- 18:43Speaker 2: Fidel Castro's brother. Fidel is dead, Raoul is still alive,
- 18:48Speaker 2: and it is anticipated that the Department of Justice will
- 18:50Speaker 2: indict Raul Castro. Presumably we don't have the details, so
- 18:55Speaker 2: this may not be exact, but the Brothers to the Rescue,
- 18:58Speaker 2: the Cubans shot down a plane and it resulted in
- 19:02Speaker 2: a loss of life, and I'm assuming that is the
- 19:05Speaker 2: basis for the indictment. We don't know for sure. We'll
- 19:09Speaker 2: find out tomorrow, but that indicting Raul Castro, assuming DJ
- 19:15Speaker 2: does that tomorrow, is a big deal. And part of
- 19:17Speaker 2: the reason it's a big deal is remember the predicate
- 19:20Speaker 2: for going in and seizing Maduro.
- 19:22Speaker 1: That's exactly what I was going to ask you, is
- 19:24Speaker 1: this is this Maduro two point zero?
- 19:26Speaker 2: I don't know, but Maduro had been indicted. Maduro had
- 19:30Speaker 2: been indicted by a grand jury for trafficking, for narco trafficking,
- 19:34Speaker 2: for sending thousands of tons of cocaine to the United States,
- 19:38Speaker 2: and that indictment served as the predicate for the Delta
- 19:42Speaker 2: Force going and arresting him and so indicting Raoul Castro.
- 19:47Speaker 2: I don't know if we'll see a military conflict with
- 19:49Speaker 2: with Cuba. I'm still I'm still a little skeptical that
- 19:53Speaker 2: the president will engage in a shooting war with Cuba.
- 19:56Speaker 2: Right now, the President is imposing massive e economic costs
- 20:00Speaker 2: on Cuba. So if you look at Cuba for the
- 20:03Speaker 2: history since the Communist Revolution in nineteen fifty nine, Cuba
- 20:08Speaker 2: spent forty years as essentially a vassal state of the
- 20:11Speaker 2: Soviet Union, and the Soviet Union supported Cuba with money
- 20:14Speaker 2: and with oil. And then when the Soviet Union collapsed,
- 20:18Speaker 2: when America won the Cold War, Cuba entered into a
- 20:23Speaker 2: faustian bargain with Venezuela. And Venezuela Cuba provided them soldiers,
- 20:29Speaker 2: they provided them thugs. You know, the soldiers that were
- 20:32Speaker 2: guarding Maduro were all Cuban soldiers. And they did this
- 20:36Speaker 2: throughout Latin America where they would provide thugs and forcers
- 20:39Speaker 2: to abuse and suppress the populace, and Venezuela reciprocated with
- 20:44Speaker 2: money and with oil, and then that's what kept Cuba's
- 20:47Speaker 2: communist regime alive. When President Trump arrested Maduro, the Venezuelan
- 20:53Speaker 2: oil and money dried up immediately for a brief period
- 20:56Speaker 2: of time. Mexico stepped in the gap and began providing
- 20:59Speaker 2: oil to Cuba, and the Trump administration quite rightly, and
- 21:03Speaker 2: this is something I publicly encouraged, leaned on Mexico and said,
- 21:07Speaker 2: cut off the oil, stop sending oil to Cuba.
- 21:11Speaker 3: And they did.
- 21:11Speaker 2: Mexico did, and as a result, Cuba is in a
- 21:15Speaker 2: massive economic crisis. Their public transportation is all but halted.
- 21:19Speaker 2: They're almost entirely out of jet fuel. We saw just
- 21:23Speaker 2: a week ago John Ratcliffe, the head of the CIA
- 21:25Speaker 2: in Cuba, meeting with the heads of multiple Cuban agencies.
- 21:29Speaker 2: I don't know what they were discussing, uh, but the
- 21:32Speaker 2: economic crisis and the pressure on Cuba is massive. And
- 21:34Speaker 2: I'll say this, Ben, Look, by.
- 21:36Speaker 1: The way, we're out of oil. People need to understand,
- 21:38Speaker 1: like their lights are off, they're.
- 21:40Speaker 2: Having blackouts there. Yeah, No, I mean it's it's an
- 21:43Speaker 2: absolute Their economy is shut down. And I also want
- 21:46Speaker 2: to say, look, look, it is a testament to what
- 21:48Speaker 2: an extraordinary moment we are in. There is a very
- 21:52Speaker 2: real possibility that in the next year we will see
- 21:55Speaker 2: new governments in Venezuela, Cuba, and Iran. Now, I want
- 22:01Speaker 2: to be clear, I'm not naive, I'm not pollyannish about this.
- 22:04Speaker 2: There are a thousand ways those could go wrong, so
- 22:06Speaker 2: those are not guaranteed outcomes. Yeah, but if we wake
- 22:10Speaker 2: up a year from now and we have governments in Cuba, Iran,
- 22:14Speaker 2: and Venezuela who are not enemies of America, who want
- 22:17Speaker 2: to be friends with America, that will be the single
- 22:20Speaker 2: greatest geopolitical shift since the fall of the Berlin Wall,
- 22:23Speaker 2: since America won the Cold War. And if you look
- 22:26Speaker 2: at Cuba my vision. I've never been to Cuba, obviously,
- 22:28Speaker 2: my father was born, grew up there, fought in the revolution,
- 22:31Speaker 2: was imprisoned, was tortured in Cuba my aunt.
- 22:35Speaker 1: But only at the regime faults.
- 22:37Speaker 3: Correct.
- 22:38Speaker 2: I do not want to go to a communist Cuba.
- 22:40Speaker 2: I will happily go and visit a free Cuba. And
- 22:44Speaker 2: that could happen in the next year and my vision
- 22:48Speaker 2: what I'd like to see happen in Cuba. I would
- 22:51Speaker 2: like to see Cuba free. I would like to see
- 22:54Speaker 2: Cuba with free speech. I'd like to see Cuba with
- 22:56Speaker 2: free elections. I would love to see Cuba as a
- 23:00Speaker 2: haven for free enterprise, think a Singapore or Hong Kong
- 23:05Speaker 2: before China took it over. And I think they could
- 23:07Speaker 2: have extraordinary prosperity. And one of the amazing things is
- 23:12Speaker 2: there are billions of dollars from Cuban Americans who would
- 23:15Speaker 2: be eager to invest back in Cuba if you had
- 23:19Speaker 2: a government that would respect the rule of law and
- 23:21Speaker 2: property rights and contract rights, and would welcome American investment
- 23:25Speaker 2: in the Cuban beaches past.
- 23:28Speaker 1: By the way, tourism would explode.
- 23:30Speaker 2: At the Cuban beaches. By all reports. I've never seen
- 23:32Speaker 2: them myself, but everyone who has says they're among, if
- 23:36Speaker 2: not the most beautiful in the world. And it's only
- 23:38Speaker 2: ninety miles away from America, so it's a very quick flight.
- 23:43Speaker 2: Cuba could boom, could enjoy enormous prosperity if the communist
- 23:48Speaker 2: regime falls, and I know President Trump wants that to happen,
- 23:52Speaker 2: and so I hope and pray. That's what occurs.
- 23:54Speaker 1: Final question on this If something does happen in Cuba
- 23:58Speaker 1: the same way that we saw with Maduro, where we
- 24:01Speaker 1: actually take a someone with the last named Castro, how
- 24:06Speaker 1: significant is that in the moment in history and for
- 24:08Speaker 1: all the victims of the Castro regime.
- 24:11Speaker 2: Look, the Castros are among the most evil people who
- 24:13Speaker 2: have ever lived. They have ruled a regime of tyranny,
- 24:18Speaker 2: of murder, of torture, of oppression that they took an economy.
- 24:22Speaker 2: You look at Cuba, when the Cuban Revolution happened, was
- 24:26Speaker 2: the number one sugar producer at all of Latin America.
- 24:28Speaker 2: Cuba is like the land that time forgot. They strangled
- 24:32Speaker 2: the economy. There's misery, there's poverty. You look at Cuba,
- 24:37Speaker 2: the cars that most of the people drive are cars
- 24:41Speaker 2: from the nineteen fifties. It was like just time froze
- 24:44Speaker 2: because communism is a failed economic model, it's a failed
- 24:49Speaker 2: governmental model. And so you have cars from the nineteen
- 24:52Speaker 2: fifties that they're stitching together the mechanics that they're almost
- 24:55Speaker 2: holding them together with rubber bands and bubblegum. But look
- 25:00Speaker 2: and poverty that the communists have inflicted on that nation.
- 25:04Speaker 2: Enough is enough, and we have a moment right now
- 25:06Speaker 2: where we could see finally, finally, finally, a Kuba libre
- 25:10Speaker 2: free Cuba.
- 25:12Speaker 1: I want to move to some fireworks that took place
- 25:14Speaker 1: today in the Senate Judiciary where they were talking. You
- 25:18Speaker 1: guys were talking about the issue of jerrymandering, and it
- 25:22Speaker 1: got very heated between you and another senator. Walk us
- 25:26Speaker 1: through that.
- 25:27Speaker 2: Well, we had a hearing in the Senate Judiciary Committee
- 25:29Speaker 2: on racial gerrymandering and the Supreme Court's recent decision making
- 25:33Speaker 2: clear that you cannot draw congressional lines discriminating based on race.
- 25:37Speaker 2: And the Democrats have been losing their minds about this.
- 25:39Speaker 2: They've been screaming that it's Jim Crow. And Mazie Herono,
- 25:44Speaker 2: the very very liberal Democrat from Hawaii, she spoke right
- 25:47Speaker 2: before me, and she gave a whole speech about how
- 25:51Speaker 2: Democrats or how Republicans are racist, how they that they
- 25:55Speaker 2: want to hurt minorities, and it was just it was
- 25:58Speaker 2: a typic, vicious, false slandering speech. I'll tell you, I
- 26:04Speaker 2: had a whole set of remarks prepared for me. I
- 26:08Speaker 2: had a whole set of questions prepared for me. I
- 26:09Speaker 2: did not ask a single one of the questions my
- 26:12Speaker 2: team had prepared. What I did instead was just off
- 26:15Speaker 2: the cuff. It was reacting to to Mazie Herono's comments.
- 26:19Speaker 2: Give a listen and hear what I had to say, Chairman,
- 26:23Speaker 2: just a moment ago, our colleague, Senator Herono said, there's
- 26:26Speaker 2: a lot more to say, and indeed she's right, and
- 26:30Speaker 2: in fact, I want to go back to her comments.
- 26:32Speaker 2: She began by saying, we have a long history of
- 26:34Speaker 2: racial discrimination in this country. That's undoubtedly correct, and then
- 26:38Speaker 2: she said, quote, we had poll taxes, we had literacy tests,
- 26:43Speaker 2: We even had tests of how many jelly beans are
- 26:46Speaker 2: in a jar. Mister Chamberlain, when when Senator Herono says
- 26:50Speaker 2: we had poll taxes, I want to ask you who
- 26:54Speaker 2: we is and in particular, what party was it that
- 26:57Speaker 2: implemented poll taxes in the South.
- 27:00Speaker 3: And I don't want to necessarily speak in every single case,
- 27:02Speaker 3: but I'm pretty confident it was mostly the Democrats.
- 27:05Speaker 2: And what party was it that put literacy tests in
- 27:07Speaker 2: place in the South?
- 27:08Speaker 3: The same answer, mostly the Democrats.
- 27:10Speaker 2: And what party was it that had tests like how
- 27:12Speaker 2: many jellybeans are in a bottle? The Democrats tell me,
- 27:17Speaker 2: what party were the founders of the Ku Klux Klan from.
- 27:21Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure that was the Democrats.
- 27:23Speaker 2: Indeed, in fact, Nathan Bedford Forrest, the founder of the Klan,
- 27:26Speaker 2: was a delegate to the eighteen sixty Democrat National Convention.
- 27:31Speaker 2: What party wrote.
- 27:32Speaker 3: The Jim Crow Laws in the South? The Democrats.
- 27:37Speaker 2: And so on this side of the aisle were members
- 27:40Speaker 2: of the Republican Party. Who was the first Republican President,
- 27:43Speaker 2: Abraham Lincoln. The Republican Party was literally founded to oppose slavery.
- 27:49Speaker 2: We came into existence because slavery was a grotesque evil.
- 27:54Speaker 2: And it was President Lincoln, the first Republican President, who
- 27:57Speaker 2: signed the Emancipation proclib who won the Civil War, and
- 28:03Speaker 2: that resulted in the freeing of the slaves and the
- 28:06Speaker 2: passage of the thirteenth, fourteenth, and fifteenth Amendments. By the way,
- 28:10Speaker 2: fast forward to the civil rights era. Bull Connor one
- 28:14Speaker 2: of the most noxiously racist politicians. What party was he from?
- 28:18Speaker 3: He was a Democrat.
- 28:20Speaker 2: The Democrats for the entire history of their party have
- 28:24Speaker 2: been a party based on racial discrimination. They affirmatively embrace it,
- 28:30Speaker 2: they support it. Let me ask you, mister grime, is
- 28:32Speaker 2: discrimination is discriminating based on race consistent with the United
- 28:36Speaker 2: States Constitution. No, what does the fourteenth Amendment say about discrimination.
- 28:42Speaker 3: Based on race? It's prohibited.
- 28:45Speaker 2: What does the fifteenth Amendments say about discriminating based on race,
- 28:48Speaker 2: and in particular drawing congressional lines and explicitly discriminating based
- 28:53Speaker 2: on race, It's prohibited. Now, the Democrats are fond of
- 28:58Speaker 2: telling this story, that is, and I wish I could
- 29:01Speaker 2: find a kinder way to say it a flat out
- 29:03Speaker 2: lie that without discriminating based on race, that no African
- 29:09Speaker 2: Americans will be elected and no Hispanics will be elected. Indeed,
- 29:12Speaker 2: there was one fellow online who was a vocal left
- 29:17Speaker 2: wing spokesperson who tweeted out, if I'm advising anybody to
- 29:20Speaker 2: run for president, they sure as hell better have a
- 29:22Speaker 2: solution to how you make sure that it's not another
- 29:26Speaker 2: one hundred years before another black person can represent South Carolina.
- 29:31Speaker 2: So that's a typical Democrat statement that we cannot elect
- 29:35Speaker 2: a black person in South Carolina without discriminating based on race.
- 29:40Speaker 2: I want to ask you, mister Chamberlain, who is the
- 29:44Speaker 2: junior Senator from South Carolina right now? That would be
- 29:46Speaker 2: Tim Scott, And all right, I'll tell you what I
- 29:50Speaker 2: said online. I said, hey, groc who is Tim Scott
- 29:54Speaker 2: and why did Democrats think he isn't black? And by
- 29:57Speaker 2: the way, was Tim Scott elected because because of a
- 30:00Speaker 2: Gerrymander district drawn only to elect an African American.
- 30:03Speaker 3: No, he won statewide.
- 30:05Speaker 2: He won statewide. By the way, the Democrat position is
- 30:10Speaker 2: you can only elect African Americans with a Gerrymander district.
- 30:13Speaker 2: I will point out Burgess Owens, an African American, is
- 30:15Speaker 2: elected the majority white district in the state of Utah.
- 30:18Speaker 2: He's a Republican. Byron Donald's another African American is elected
- 30:22Speaker 2: the majority white district in Florida.
- 30:24Speaker 3: He is a Republican.
- 30:25Speaker 2: John James, another African American, has elected the majority white
- 30:29Speaker 2: district in Michigan. He is a Republican. And my own Congressman,
- 30:33Speaker 2: Wesley Hunt, who represents me in the House of Representatives,
- 30:36Speaker 2: he is elected the majority white district. He is a Republican.
- 30:40Speaker 2: And yet in the Democrats world, you're not black if
- 30:44Speaker 2: you're not a liberal Democrat. There is an arrogance to
- 30:47Speaker 2: African American voters. By the way, they also have that
- 30:51Speaker 2: same arrogance to Hispanic voters. They say, you're not Hispanic,
- 30:56Speaker 2: if you're not a liberal Democrat. Well, I'll tell you
- 30:58Speaker 2: I am proud to be the first Hispanic ever elected
- 31:02Speaker 2: to represent the state of Texas in the United States Senate.
- 31:05Speaker 2: And mister Chamberlain, in my election in Texas, was I
- 31:10Speaker 2: elected the gerrymandered district that could only elect in Hispanic?
- 31:13Speaker 3: No, you were elected statewide.
- 31:16Speaker 2: Discrimination based on race is wrong. Final question. The Democrats
- 31:23Speaker 2: are now clutching their pearls that seats drawn to elect
- 31:27Speaker 2: liberal Democrats in the South are going to go away.
- 31:30Speaker 2: You may get black Republicans instead. Indeed, in Tennessee they're
- 31:33Speaker 2: freaking out that a liberal white guy who's a Democrat
- 31:36Speaker 2: is likely going to lose his seat to an African
- 31:39Speaker 2: American woman who's a Republican. And they say that horrible
- 31:42Speaker 2: racial oppression. My final question is this, if you look nationwide,
- 31:52Speaker 2: which party has egregiously abused jerrymandering for decades? Both parties
- 31:57Speaker 2: are guilty of it, But who has been the worst offender?
- 32:00Speaker 2: And in particular take New England, Take Massachusetts, state Connecticut,
- 32:04Speaker 2: Take Rhode Island, Take Maine, take Vermont, take New Hampshire.
- 32:08Speaker 2: How many Republicans are elected from all of New England
- 32:11Speaker 2: and the House representatives.
- 32:13Speaker 3: I think the answer to that is zero zero.
- 32:15Speaker 2: They've drawn every district in a naked jerrymander, and yet
- 32:18Speaker 2: they're very upset that their illegal pursuit of power has
- 32:22Speaker 2: now been stopped by the Supreme Court that is enforcing
- 32:25Speaker 2: the Constitution and prohibiting the racial gerrymandering discrimination.
- 32:29Speaker 3: Their party is built on.
- 32:33Speaker 4: Personal privilege. Uh sure, I feel personally aggrieved to sit
- 32:39Speaker 4: here and to be lectured by my colleague from Texas.
- 32:44Speaker 4: And this reminds me of the time when he was
- 32:47Speaker 4: first elected to the Senate and the Judiciary Committee had
- 32:50Speaker 4: a hearing on gun safety, and he has felt a
- 32:54Speaker 4: need to lecture Dianne Feinstein, who was a leader on
- 32:57Speaker 4: gun safety legislation, and he took there's that opportunity to
- 33:01Speaker 4: lecture Diane Feinstein about gun safety and her leadership on
- 33:05Speaker 4: the issue. And she said to him something along the
- 33:08Speaker 4: lines of I did not sit here on this committee
- 33:11Speaker 4: for however many years she did, only to be lectured
- 33:14Speaker 4: by you. And that is how I feel. So why
- 33:16Speaker 4: don't you just stop lecturing the rest of us just
- 33:19Speaker 4: because you think you are the smartest person in the world.
- 33:22Speaker 4: Doesn't mean the rest of us agree to that. Okay,
- 33:24Speaker 4: thanks you.
- 33:25Speaker 2: Said, Senator Herono. I knew Diane Feinstein. I served with
- 33:29Speaker 2: Dianne Feinstein, and you're not Diane Feinstein.
- 33:31Speaker 1: Right, Senator, I just got one question for you. You're
- 33:34Speaker 1: not a big morning person. So who made you mad
- 33:36Speaker 1: this morning? And what did you eat? Because that was brilliant.
- 33:40Speaker 2: Well, look, I couldn't stand seeing the Democrats being hypocritical
- 33:44Speaker 2: and dishonest, and you know it was striking. Mazie Herono said,
- 33:48Speaker 2: I'm offended. I'm offended that you said this. You know
- 33:51Speaker 2: what she didn't do. She didn't dispute a single word
- 33:54Speaker 2: I said, because every word I said was factual. She
- 33:57Speaker 2: didn't dispute that her party has been vicious racist since
- 34:01Speaker 2: the very beginning of that party, that it embraces racil, jerrymandering,
- 34:05Speaker 2: like every word of substance. She just and this is
- 34:07Speaker 2: a classic Democrat tactic. How dare you speak the truth?
- 34:11Speaker 2: I'm offended by the truth. And obviously my reference at
- 34:13Speaker 2: the end, I was quoting a Democrat. If you'll recall
- 34:17Speaker 2: when George W. Bush or not George W. Bush, George H. W.
- 34:22Speaker 2: Bush was running for president and he was running with
- 34:25Speaker 2: dan Quayle and he was running against Michael Decaucus and
- 34:29Speaker 2: his running mate was Lloyd Benson. And Lloyd Benson was
- 34:31Speaker 2: a Senator from Texas and dan Quayle when he was
- 34:34Speaker 2: nominated to be vice president was a very young senator,
- 34:37Speaker 2: I think it was forty one or forty two, and
- 34:39Speaker 2: he did not have a ton of experience. And in
- 34:42Speaker 2: the vice presidential debate between dan Quayle and Lloyd Benson,
- 34:47Speaker 2: dan Quayle had had a riff that I suspect was
- 34:50Speaker 2: prepared by his team where he said, look, I'm the
- 34:52Speaker 2: same age that John Kennedy was when he became president,
- 34:56Speaker 2: and it was I think their line to say, gosh,
- 34:59Speaker 2: I'm not in experience inst because because Kennedy and I
- 35:01Speaker 2: are the same age. And Lloyd Benson looked at him
- 35:04Speaker 2: and said, Senator, I knew Jack Kennedy. Jack Kennedy was
- 35:09Speaker 2: a friend of mine. I served with Jack Kennedy. Senator,
- 35:15Speaker 2: You're no Jack Kennedy. And that obviously was the riff
- 35:19Speaker 2: I was I was using for for for Mazie Dianne
- 35:24Speaker 2: Feinstein my first year, we did have a fiery blow
- 35:26Speaker 2: up over gun control because she was a big advocate
- 35:30Speaker 2: of gun control. I am a big defender of the
- 35:33Speaker 2: Second Amendment, and when I asked her a specific question
- 35:37Speaker 2: about the constitutional basis for what she was proposing, she
- 35:40Speaker 2: got very upset and and and she much like Mazie Herono,
- 35:43Speaker 2: she said, I am not a sixth grader, and she
- 35:46Speaker 2: was horrified that I would actually ask her the constitutional
- 35:49Speaker 2: basis for what she was trying to do. Uh, Mayzi
- 35:54Speaker 2: does not have She could not refute a word I said,
- 35:58Speaker 2: so instead she she resorted to insult and emotional offense.
- 36:05Speaker 2: And look, I think that's a fairly typical example of
- 36:08Speaker 2: where the Democrats are. Truth and facts are not their
- 36:11Speaker 2: strong points, and they're not going going to engage in them. Instead,
- 36:15Speaker 2: they're going to try to engage in deception. And sadly,
- 36:18Speaker 2: that was the entire Democrat theme in the entire hearing.
- 36:22Speaker 3: No, it really was.
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