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E51: Barbie is a Mixed Bag · The Lila Rose Show

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Every single man in the film was portrayed negatively.
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It's like, oh, when a man gets awakened and enlightened, he's
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suddenly a power hungry jerk. And it's not true.
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We are made to be interdependent when it comes to men.
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We are not made to be their rivals but their partners.
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And the reality is no, no single person is enough for themselves
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on your own. No, none of us are enough.
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That is the hope though, that we are enough with God because God
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is with us. He is a Father who loves us and
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he has eternal peace and joy waiting for us.
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So recently I went and I saw Barbie, actually just saw it
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yesterday and a few of my friends and I went together.
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They wanted to see it mostly to be able to comment on it.
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In Full disclosure, this was a bit of a girl's night, but it
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was after the kids went down. But it was also.
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And so let's go check out this movie that has raked in over a
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All right, so my immediate takeaways, First of all, it was
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fun just going with friends. So that I think is one of the
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biggest reasons Barbie has been so successful is because it's
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drawing on what is a nostalgic experience for many, many
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people. And it's something you can do
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with your friends, with a group of people, no matter your age.
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I'm going to talk about that more later because I do think
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it's a major issue that's being marketed to kids.
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But the reality is groups of women and some men all over the
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country are flocking to go see this movie.
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And I understand the phenomenon because people love doing things
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together and having a reason to go do things together.
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It was hard to get through for me.
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There were parts that were really funny.
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There was some great visuals. The acting was really great.
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I mean, Margot Robbie is a fantastic actor.
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So there was definitely some really well done aspects of the
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film, but a lot of it was a lot of it was just hard to stomach
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because it was the through line. The one consistent thing in the
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movie was pretty blatant sexism, mis injury, sexism against men.
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So we're going to unpack that. I'm going to unpack what I
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thought about Barbie, what it means at this moment in culture,
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why it matters. First, we're going to start with
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the opening scene of the Barbie movie.
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You might have seen this if you haven't already.
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Here we go. Since the beginning of time,
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since the first little girl ever existed, there have been dolls.
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But the dolls were always and forever baby dolls.
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Until. OK, so right now they're
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throwing the baby dolls into the air and smashing their baby
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dolls. You're listening to this on
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podcast and then Margot Robbie shows up as the Barbie and all
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the little girls are looking at this woman in a swimsuit who's
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very curvaceous, and then they're throwing their baby
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dolls. All right.
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So first of all, it's a clever opening scene because it's
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reminiscent of 2001 space Odyssey.
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So kind of there's all these like little references
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throughout the film that are nostalgic for the film world,
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for the the the doll Barbie for the, you know, 20th century.
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But the opening trailer immediately sets the tone, which
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was pretty consistent in the movie, which is that throw away
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your bar, throw away your doll, throw away your little baby doll
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and embrace your empowered, independent, autonomous, sexy
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Barbie. And I did not play with Barbies
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growing up. It's not that my parents were
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like, it's evil or anything. It just wasn't something that
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they chose to buy for me. I had some friends who played
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with Barbies. I never found them particularly
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attractive. I mean, I remember putting the
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shoes on, enjoying that and like putting the dresses on and
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enjoying that. But I always thought they were
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weird. They were weird looking dolls,
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very skinny, angular dolls that had these like large breasts
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that I didn't really connect with as a little girl.
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And I think the reason for that is because it is not natural.
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It is not natural to give a little girl a very tall, skinny
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woman figure with breasts on it and say that this is going to
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teach her about femininity. I don't think it does.
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I think it can be fun to dress up dolls and things like that.
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But the reason historically little girls have been given
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baby dolls is because little girls love babies.
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Children love children Little kids love smaller kids than them
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and are fascinated by little babies.
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They're not fascinated by grown women adults and want to undress
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and dress them up again. They're fascinated by little
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dolls and little children that are newborns and a baby and a
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little toddler. I mean, my almost 4 year old
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loves are almost 2 year old and is so excited that we're having
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another baby about what's this little baby going to look like.
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Every little kid I've ever encountered has an interest, at
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least, you know, is excited about other little kids.
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That's normal. So the fact that dolls from
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before all time were like little smaller children, basically for
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the children to play with is normal.
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It's not the patriarchy. It's actually just human
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condition and a beautiful part of humanity and human nature.
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All right, So throughout Barbie, first of all, there was a lack
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of just kids or children. Babies were only placed in
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Barbie in a negative light when the babies were smashed at the
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beginning of the film. When pregnant, Barbie was looked
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at with disgust or, you know, told, oh, she's been
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discontinued. And then the only other children
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that you see in the film really is this snapshot of this mother
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daughter characters in the film and snapshots from that girl's
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childhood, which are really beautiful snapshots that show
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her growing up and getting disenchanted with her own
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family. So at the end of Barbie, there
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was a very redeeming scene, which was when and I think this
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scene also meant a lot to a lot of people who saw and made the
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film leave many people with a positive impression and make
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them feel very emotional, which is when Barbie is considering
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becoming a real person, you know, going to the real world to
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leave, leaving Barbie land. This is after the Barbies take
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back Barbie land and she's given this sort of vision of what it
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means to be in the real world. And that vision is really
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focused on mothers and their children.
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And there's all these mothers and their children that she
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sees. And then that's when she chooses
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to go back to the real world. And I do think that this had a
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lot of beauty to it because it was emphasizing the beauty, the
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value of mothers, intergeneral intergenerations, multiple
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generations, the value of children.
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I think when Barbie then chooses to enter the real world, there
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was kind of a contradiction in that.
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When she's entering the real world, there was nothing left
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about her wanting to be a mother or have a family.
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It was more like, I'm going to go to the gynecologist office
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again, not the OBGYN office, the gynecologist office.
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But I do think that was a beautiful moment in the film
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that gave a lot of people the impression that the film was
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celebrating that thing, which it was in that moment.
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So I wanted to call that out as a good thing.
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Another thing that I thought was good is at the end of the film
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as well, America Ferraro or the sort of lead mother of the
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daughter who is helping take back Barbie Land.
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And, and it's sort of like steering Barbie through the
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different transitions from real world to Barbie Land.
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She makes this comment about how it is you don't have to be a
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career woman basically, and maybe there can just be normal
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average Barbie that's a mom. And I think that was also really
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a beautiful moment that deserves praise because it was, I think
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leveling a kind of aggressive careerism, feminism, which has
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been a historical feminism, especially in the last century,
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that says that you, in order to be empowered as a woman, needs
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to go work like a man or just work in general.
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And that comment from Ferraro in the film was very much the
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opposite, that no, you don't have to be a career woman.
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In fact, you can be an everyday woman and be a mom, and that's
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totally fine too. Of course, the disadvantage
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there is it's sort of leveling like mom, career woman, whatever
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choice you make, it's fine. Yes, I think we have the power
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to choose, but I do think our society at large does denigrate
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motherhood or says that motherhood is just like any
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other career when I think motherhood is in a class of its
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own. You know, raising the next
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generation, bringing children to the world is not like becoming a
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lawyer. There's something uniquely
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valuable about being a mother or being a father.
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And if you're not able to be a mother or father yourself,
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supporting mothers and supporting fathers more than
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just supporting a big corporation or a business or
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whatever else your career calling, you know, your sense of
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calling might be. That being said, I thought it
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was beautiful and I thought that that also left people towards
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the end of the film with a positive impression of
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motherhood. So kudos to Barbie for that.
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And to the many young women who asked the question, am I enough?
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Am I enough who always are trying to live up to some
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standard that they are maybe imposing on themselves or maybe
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someone's imposed they feel is being imposed on them?
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I think the answer is, as God's daughter, you are enough by
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yourself on your own. No, none of us are enough.
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I mean that is a fact. We are not enough.
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We will die, we will make mistakes, we will fail ourselves
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and other people, but we were created for love, to love and be
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loved. And we need to receive love
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first from our Creator, God, our Father, in order to give love
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without knowing our identity as daughters of God, who God loves
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completely and unconditionally, and knowing that God has a plan
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of good for our lives to help us choose what is good and true and
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beautiful so that we can live what is good and true and
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beautiful. If we know that identity, we
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will find incredible freedom and I think peace.
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If we don't know that identity, we will always struggle, like
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failing. We are not enough because we
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won't be enough. That is the hope though, that we
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are enough with God, in God who is perfect everything we have
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everything and that the hardest struggles, the biggest
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challenges we can overcome with peace, even when things are
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really, really hard because God is with us.
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He has a Father who loves us and he has eternal peace and joy
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waiting for us. So my encouragement to Barbie
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fans or anti fans, wherever you fall, whichever can't be fallen,
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is the ultimate message of who are we?
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The ultimate message is, am I enough?
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We are children of God. He is our Father who loves us,
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loves us so much He sent his Son to die for us so that we could
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be reconciled with him despite our mistakes and our sin and our
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suffering and with him, yes, you have more than enough.
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You have everything. Another theme at the end of
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Barbie was the question of who am I?
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So Ken is wondering who am I apart from Barbie?
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Because Barbie's basically saying you don't need me.
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And like, go off and find yourself Ken.
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And that that question is like, who am I apart from Barbie?
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As sort of Ken's conundrum. I just don't know who I am
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without you. You're 10.
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But it's Barbie and Ken. There is no just Ken.
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And there's sort of this idea in the film where Ken's off sort of
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like in this like mist figuring out who he is.
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And I do think that there's incredible value to asking the
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question, who am I? Like, people should ask that
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question. And who you are isn't defined by
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your career or the clothes you wear.
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Those things can be aspects of how you live out who you are.
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But you know, the film didn't answer the question in terms of
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who are you? You're human being made in the
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image of God and you're created for love, to love and be loved.
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And, and often for many people, that love is discovered for all
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people. It's discovered in community.
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Some people that's discovered in a vocation to marriage or the
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vocation to a religious life or a vocation to serve the
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community in a in a unique single way.
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It didn't obviously answer that questions to that degree.
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But I do think there's value in encouraging people to ask the
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question at a very deep level. Who am I?
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And to think past, you know, culture saying, well, you're
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you're your job or you're your education or you're just the way
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that you look. So again, kudos to Barbie for
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unearthing that question. I do think it's a important
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question. Question wasn't answered.
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And I do think there's a danger in sort of endlessly going off
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into the mist and saying, who am I?
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And then, you know, finding out, well, I am this feeling of
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wanting to be, you know, this famous artist or I am this
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experience of wanting to, you know, make all of this success
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in this way. You know that separated from I
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believe our fundamental identity as human beings created by God
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in his image will lead to bad paths if we don't see our
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identity as God's children created for love to love and be
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loved. I do think The Who am I question
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answered in another way will lead to dark paths.
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That's a topic maybe for another episode, though.
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And you know, Barbie didn't full on answer that question or try
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to. It didn't seem to anyways, but I
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think it was positive that I even had the question in the
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film. So apart from the blatant sexism
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and, you know, some of the, you know, very, I think intense
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feminist ideology, those are some good themes.
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Now back to the moment when America Ferrara is talking
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about, you know, you can be a mom and you know what about
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average Barbie? And then Barbie has that vision
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of all of these women throughout history and that
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intergenerationalism. Again, a beautiful what was
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missing though, right? Men, like men were not included
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in that vision. Ken can go off and be himself
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and Barbie can kind of have children and exist with other
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Barbies without men. I mean, that was a part of the
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imagery there. And I think that that is not
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true. Obviously we we need men.
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Men need us, especially when it comes to future generations.
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There was a lot of animosity placed between Ryan Gosling, the
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Ken, and between Margot Robbie, the Barbie.
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And the whole film was about their dynamic and the animosity
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between them and about how Ken was basically useless to Barbie
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and he had to understand ultimately that she didn't need
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him and that he needed to go find himself and that they
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weren't, they didn't really belong together.
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And I thought that was really sad, a really sad take away for
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the film because it basically said that men and women don't
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need each other, that Barbie is better without Ken.
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And all the men in the film were shown to be these basically
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idiots who were either mean or power hungry or clueless, and
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they didn't really have much to offer the women in their lives.
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Barbie has a great day every day, but Ken only has a great
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day if Barbie looks at him. Hi, Barbie.
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Hi, Ken. This wasn't just the dynamic
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between Barbie and Ken. This was the dynamic between the
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other character of the mother and her daughter.
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They talked about do we need to tell dad that we're leaving town
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at one point? And they're like, no, he's fine.
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And they show him kind of babbling, almost like an idiot
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on a couch trying to learn Spanish.
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And he doesn't even know how to do that.
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He was clueless. And they basically just didn't
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need dad. He didn't know where they do
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what they were doing. They didn't need to tell him
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what he was doing. There was no need for there to
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be any communication between them.
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They could leave dad to basically rot in a sofa and it
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wouldn't matter. And they could go conquer the
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world together as women. That was the message.
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You know that. And then the only other men that
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you got to see were like bad characters in the patriarchy
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land. And then you got to see the bad
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board or the silly board of Mattel, which is the toy company
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that makes Barbie. So every single man in the film
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was portrayed negatively. Every single one, even the non
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Ken doll doll that was supposed to be a man that kind of ended
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up helping the Barbies take back Barbie land was shown to be kind
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of an idiot as well. There are no multiples of Alan,
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he's just Alan. Yeah, I'm confused about that.
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And I think that overall pervasive sexism in the film
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made it very hard to watch for me.
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There were some innuendos in the film that were pretty overt and
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pretty intense, and I thought that was also really sad because
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this is a film that's being marketed to children.
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I mean, Margot Robbie in part of the PR for the film shared.
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No, it is for kids. It's for everyone.
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And we layered it to make it for some themes for adults and some
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themes for kids. Is this a kids movie or is it
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not a kids movie? It's this is such like a thing
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people say when they do press for a movie.
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They're like, it's for everyone, but it was literally crafted to
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be for everyone. Comedy plays on so many
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different. The whole movie plays on so many
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different levels. And there's comedy in there that
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I think, you know, they're gonna go over to the kids heads and
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adults are gonna, you know, laugh a lot.
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And there's things that there really is something for
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everyone. And so they put in raunchy
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themes and jokes, like the joke about beach as an example, which
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has these sexual connotations, and they put that in there, but
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they're like, oh, it's not a big deal because little kids won't
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understand what they're talking about.
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I don't buy that. I don't like this idea that you
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can layer in sex jokes into a film, but make them ambiguous
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and so little kids can watch it. It's not a big deal.
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Little kids are smarter than you think, and they're growing up in
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this culture of whatever innuendos you're stuffing in
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your films. So don't make a film that you
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want kids to see that have sexual innuendos in it.
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Just don't do it. I would be annoyed and I should
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be, and any parent should be. If like some cartoon maker is
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making a cartoon that has sexual innuendos in it and you would
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say this is disgusting your grooming kids, why is it OK then
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to make a live action film that you're saying is for adults and
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kids that has sexual innuendos in it?
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It's not OK. So that I took serious issue
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with. And I think it's just because we
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don't take, we don't take sexual innuendos, pornography, sexual
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objectification seriously enough.
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As a culture, we just don't we think it's a joke.
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We think it's OK and it's not being approved to say no, don't
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sexualize kids. Like that's not prudishness,
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that's protectiveness. It's a protectiveness that kids
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deserve. So that is a big issue that I
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had with the film. All right, one last major take
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away to share. I want to mention the
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patriarchy. So there are a lot of themes
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about the patriarchy and how Barbie was going against the
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patriarchy, what it was implying.
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And it showed, like past founding fathers who were all
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supposedly patriarchs and part of the patriarchy and how the
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world is a man's world. And Barbie was somehow trying to
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disrupt that. Listen.
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Historically, when men have been rulers, especially in this
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country, when men have been rulers in government, etcetera,
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yes, there has been a very male centric political system.
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That is a fact. It's a historical fact.
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But that's not because women were seen as less than, it's
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because property holders were primarily the ones that were
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given the vote. And it's that many women shared
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property in common with their husbands and there was one vote
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for the household. In addition, the reason that men
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held office in many of these cases is they were seen as
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political leaders because they were often military or business
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leaders. So it wasn't that women are not
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good or valuable or women don't have a equal dignity to men.
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It was a more sense of we are family units and you know,
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Abigail Adams is a unit with John Adams as opposed to Abigail
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Adams is a separate political and economic unit from John
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Adams. Now, I'm not saying that it's
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bad that people who are in the same economic unit like a
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household have two votes. I'm not saying that that's bad.
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But I'm saying that it's much more nuanced, the story of the
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patriarchy as they call it in America then this movie paints
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it to be. And that's no surprise because I
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think the popular trope of I'm a victim as a woman today needs to
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pretend that there is this, this secret society that has existed
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before the dawn of time by men, not so secret even, but
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sometimes secret in order to basically control and harm
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women. And that's just not the case.
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That's not to say that some men don't control and harm women.
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That is a fact. They do.
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Some women control and try to harm men.
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There will always be bad apples, but there's nothing in the male
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nature that wants to control and harm women.
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I think there's a brokenness that men can have that can lead
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them to controlling and harming women, but women have the same
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brokenness. The way the control and the harm
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looks different. I mean that is true.
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Men are stronger than women so they can be more physically
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harmful to women. Like that is true.
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But I don't think women by nature are more innocent than
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men and don't do as many bad things as men by nature because
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we're just better people by nature.
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I think we're both human beings, men and women.
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We share human nature. We have unique differences as
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men and women, but one is not better than the other.
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And unfortunately the message of Barbie loud and clear.
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Besides, you need to go find yourself by being completely
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independent from everyone else, especially men, was that men are
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bad too. And I think that's just a really
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sad and untrue message. So you could say, well, come on,
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you're taking this too seriously.
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This is just a fun Barbie movie, and they're so full of random
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stuff and like, why are you reading into it so much?
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I think it's reading into it because in Hollywood and a lot
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of media today, there is a lot of messaging that says that as a
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woman, you don't need children or men.
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As human beings, we are made to be interdependent.
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When it comes to men, we are not made to be their rivals, but
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they're partners. And men and women, I think
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together from a spiritual perspective, make the image of
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God so beautifully. And that's why they can also
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bring life into the world and they need each other for that.
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And that's a beautiful thing. So back to the competitiveness
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that we are in competition together and men bring us down.
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I think that has done so much damage to a generation of women.
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Can I blame feminism for that? Probably.
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I mean, a lot of feminist people who consider themselves
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feminists have this talking point.
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But ultimately it's one that is not going to bring joy to people
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because we are made for communion.
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We're made for relationship. We're made to be loved.
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We are not made to go it alone, and that's why the plan, I think
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God's designed for marriage, where man and woman marry each
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other. They share each other most
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intimately. They're committed to each other
24:17
for life. They give each other their
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bodies. They can bring life into the
24:19
world, and they have children now.
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That child has a intact family with a mother and a father.
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That design is so beautiful. That's the design that we should
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be upholding and celebrating and exploring in media and art and
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movies as opposed to glamorizing radical autonomy and the
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rejection, the rivalry with men. Another example with this in pop
24:42
culture is the recent super hit song by Miley Cyrus called I Can
24:47
Buy Myself Flowers. And a very clever account on
24:50
YouTube did a mash up between Miley singing I Can buy myself
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Flowers with Bruno Mars singing the popular pop star singing I
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Wish I had bought you flowers. I think it's the line.
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Let's take a listen. All right, so on the one hand,
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Bruno Mars is saying I wish I bought you.
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I should have bought you flowers.
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And she is my only singing. I I can buy myself flowers.
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I should have held your hand. And she's saying basically, I
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don't need a man. And it's just back and forth
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between them. This is a mash up, obviously,
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but the point is, OK, he failed me.
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And Bruno is sort of admitting in the song, oh, I should have
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done all these things. I should have valued you more.
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He's taking responsibility for that.
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And Miley's sort of, you know, response song in the mash up is
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I don't need you anymore, right? And I think this is another
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aspect of the rivalry is that we do fail each other.
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Men feel women and women fail men.
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That is a fact. I guarantee you I'm married.
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I make mistakes in my marriage. That is a fact.
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I am not perfect. No human being is perfect.
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OK, What do we do with the inevitable failures?
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What do we do with the inevitable failures between men
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and women? Do we seek to heal the rift?
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Or do we double down on the failure and say we don't belong
26:28
together anymore? And again, people say, well, you
26:31
know, some marriages need to be separated because of abuse.
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I mean, like, I already can, like, hear the comments coming.
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And this is not about that. Like, that's not what I'm even
26:39
talking about here. Obviously, if there's some
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severe abuse in a marriage, then their separation can be the most
26:45
loving thing for both parties, especially the people being
26:48
abused. But the point here is there is
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no perfect man. There is no perfect woman.
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We're going to fail each other. We're going to misunderstand
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each other. The only way forward is for us
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to try to understand and love one another.
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It's not the message of Miley Cyrus.
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She's celebrating her hurt and her radical autonomy.
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They say that the song was written actually to her
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ex-husband, which is really sad. They apparently had an on and
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off relationship for years and sincerely loved each other.
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But you know, Miley's complicated and they separated.
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And, you know, it's about basically, I don't need you
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anymore. And, and, and it's not just I
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don't need you, it's I don't need you.
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And I'm enough for me. And the reality is, no, no
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single person is enough for themselves.
27:34
We are made to be interdependent.
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We are made to be in community. Some of us might not marry, but
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we're made to have deep and, and, and responsible
27:43
relationships, meaning we actually have a responsibility
27:46
to a community that we're helping to care for and love.
27:48
They help and care for us. That might be our immediate
27:50
family, might be adopted family, but we are made for community
27:54
with each other. We're not made to go it alone.
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But that's not the message of most pop culture today.
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One more note on the rivalry thing.
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In Barbie, Ken was depicted as going to the real world, meaning
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basically America today, and being so excited by how men were
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in charge and everything was about men.
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First of all, that's not the way the world is today.
28:15
By a lot of standards, Women are faring better with mental
28:18
health, economically in their longevity, how long they live.
28:22
Women fare better. They more women graduate college
28:25
today. So that's just not a that's not
28:26
a fact. But in addition, it had the
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scene where Ken goes to the real world and he wants to all of a
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sudden be in power. Like he wants to be be more
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important and more powerful than anybody, especially Barbie.
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And I think that's really sad because it's like, oh, when a
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man gets awakened and enlightened, he's suddenly a
28:47
power hungry jerk. And that's not true.
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I think when a man gets enlightened and awakened and
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really understands who he is and has in his masculinity, he
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realizes the power he has to do good and to love and to serve
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other people. And that brings out his manhood,
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his power to provide, his power to protect.
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These are things that can be uniquely masculine, especially
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in a marriage, in a, in a, in a family, to bring good.
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So what's the lasting impact of Barbie?
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Is there lasting impact? What does this mean for the
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future? Any final thoughts here?
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I think Barbie as a doll and what it did for a generation of
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girls and as a movie, it will have impact.
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Of course it does. It's made over a billion dollars
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and well, it can be fun to watch and nostalgic.
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And I totally get that. And I'm not saying it wasn't fun
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and taking that fun away from people because it was there is
29:39
fun to that. Going to the movies is fun with
29:41
your friends, period, and watching something that looks
29:44
really, you know, pretty and glitzy and it brings nostalgia
29:47
back to you and has all of these like fun references and a lot of
29:50
good jokes. There were some good jokes in
29:52
there. I totally understand why people
29:54
loved it. I totally do.
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But when the take away message is I don't need you, I can do it
30:02
on my own. And the take away message is men
30:06
are basically useless. It's a very sad take away
30:10
message. OK, what do we do?
30:13
I know there's some people like, oh, you know, there's all these
30:15
crazy movies out there and all of this woke content and, you
30:19
know, this proportion stuff, the culture is so rough.
30:22
Listen, we just have to invest in the things we care about.
30:27
If you want to see good media out there, help invest in it.
30:31
You don't have to be the creator yourself.
30:32
You can invest in the creator. My company, GTB is producing
30:36
this podcast. We're a low budget operation
30:38
right now, but we're starting to, we're starting up.
30:40
I would love your investment. I would love you to become a
30:42
patron. We have feature length films you
30:44
want to produce in the future. We have other podcasts.
30:46
We have a dating podcast we want to produce.
30:48
We have a lot of cool stuff that we're planning on in the future.
30:50
We need partners. Put your resources behind the
30:53
things that you might believe in or you want to see out there in
30:56
the world. That's how we change culture,
30:59
OK? It's not like, oh, we need to go
31:01
and just sit and suffer. Oh, poor us.
31:05
Look at Barbie, like no, choose to create the things you want to
31:11
see in the world or help other people create them.
31:14
I'm really hopeful. There's been a lot of amazing
31:16
stuff. Sound of Freedom did so well in
31:18
theaters. We interviewed Eduardo
31:20
Verastigi, the lead producer on the podcast last month and he
31:23
was fantastic. And I know those guys and
31:24
they're making more stuff. And I see, you know, people out
31:27
there doing great content online, making a difference.
31:31
You know, there are good kids shows, Bluey as an example.
31:33
It has a lot of good values. There's nothing bad in there
31:35
that I've seen so far. There's good stuff that is
31:38
happening. Go out and help be a part of it
31:41
because that's how we're going to change culture.
31:43
That is the only way forward is for us.
31:47
Just like the message that I had earlier, the message for Barbie,
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you're not a victim. Take responsibility for your
31:52
life. Your life is about service of
31:54
others. That is the message for us too.
31:56
When it comes to the complaints about culture, we are not
32:00
victims. We got this.
32:02
Do our parts we can make a difference.