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Labeling the Muslim Brotherhood, AI needs a Soft Touch plus Cruz Calls Out Carlson & Qatar Week In Review · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome.
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  Speaker 2: It is Verdict with Ted Cruz, Weekend Review, Ben Ferguson
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  Speaker 2: with you, and these are the stories that you may
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  Speaker 2: have missed that we talked about this week. First up,
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  Speaker 2: an ongoing battle to designate the Muslim Brotherhood of terrorist
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  Speaker 2: organization and it's time for you to step up and
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  Speaker 2: call your Congressman and your Senator will explain how important
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  Speaker 2: this is.
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  Speaker 1: And just a moment. Also, AI executive order.
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  Speaker 2: Signed by the President is going to excel AI business
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  Speaker 2: in America. Why is it so important that we beat
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  Speaker 2: China on this? And it deals with national security. We'll
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  Speaker 2: explain that as well. And also, in a very odd move,
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  Speaker 2: a guy by the name of Tucker Carlson decides to
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  Speaker 2: go to Katar, stuck up to the country and buy
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  Speaker 2: a house. It's the Weekend Review and it starts right now.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Finally, Senator, I love doing the show because
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  Speaker 2: we get to bring attention and actually get our listeners involved.
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  Speaker 2: The next subject we're going to be talking about is
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  Speaker 2: one where I would say to everyone listening, this is
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  Speaker 2: when you say, I'm going to take a moment, I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to send the I'm going to call my center.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to call my congressman, this is something you've
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  Speaker 2: been working on. We've been talking about a lot, and
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  Speaker 2: it deals with the Muslim Brotherhood bill, and I want
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  Speaker 2: you to give this update, Becau. It's important and a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people that listen Berg they say, hey, what
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  Speaker 2: can I do?
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  Speaker 1: How can my voice be heard?
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  Speaker 2: This is a perfect example of where your phone call
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  Speaker 2: can make a big difference.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: So, Look, the Muslim Brotherhood is a terrorist organization. It
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  Speaker 4: is one of the most dangerous terrorist organizations on the planet.
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  Speaker 4: I have been fighting for literally ten years for the
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  Speaker 4: United States to designate the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization.
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  Speaker 4: In the first Trump administration, I came incredibly close. I
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  Speaker 4: almost got the Trump administration to do it. Here's what
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  Speaker 4: defeated me. So there's a global umbrella group, the Muslim Brotherhood,
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  Speaker 4: and there are a bunch of affiliates that are in
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  Speaker 4: different countries, and there were Deep States State Department operatives
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  Speaker 4: who argued against what I was trying to do in
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  Speaker 4: Trump want And the argument they use that prevailed is
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  Speaker 4: they said, well, look, not every single affiliate of the
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  Speaker 4: Muslim Brotherhood can we prove as a terrorist organization? Some
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  Speaker 4: of them clearly are, but others of them, there's not
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  Speaker 4: clear and irrefutable evidence that they're engaged in terrorism. That's
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  Speaker 4: what defeated my effort.
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  Speaker 3: Trump won.
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  Speaker 4: So here's what I've done Trump too, I said, the
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  Speaker 4: previous efforts were top down. They were designate the Global
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  Speaker 4: Muslim Brotherhood and then designate all their affiliates. They argued,
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  Speaker 4: some of the affiliates may not be terrorists. I don't
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  Speaker 4: buy that, but it was an argument, and it was
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  Speaker 4: an argument that was successful in Trump won. So in
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  Speaker 4: Trump too, I inverted the entire approach. I said, all right,
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  Speaker 4: let's rather than being top down, let's start bottom up.
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  Speaker 4: And so I filed legislation that directed the administration designate
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  Speaker 4: every Muslim Brotherhood affiliate that there is clear and unequivocal
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  Speaker 4: evidence their terrorist organization. So, for example, Hamas Hamas is
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  Speaker 4: the Muslim Brotherhood in Palestine, so there is no dispute
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  Speaker 4: Hamas is a terrorist organization.
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  Speaker 3: So that is an easy.
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  Speaker 4: Example of a Muslim Brotherhood affiliate that is indisputably terrorist.
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  Speaker 4: My legislation says designate the affiliates, and then it says
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  Speaker 4: designate the Global Muslim Brotherhood for providing money, for providing
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  Speaker 4: material assistance to the affiliates that are indisputably terrorist organizations.
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  Speaker 4: So I filed that legislation. I've been pressing the Trump administration.
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  Speaker 4: President Trump stepped in and he announced that he was
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  Speaker 4: in designating the Muslim Brotherhood's terrorist organization, not the global
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  Speaker 4: but the individual affiliates. And basically, the Trumpet administration is
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  Speaker 4: followed following the approach in my legislation. Now, I want
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  Speaker 4: you to listen. This week, a State Department official from
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  Speaker 4: the Trump administration was testifying before the Senate. I questioned
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  Speaker 4: him on this, give a listen. Do you believe the
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  Speaker 4: Muslim Brotherhood poses a threat to the national security.
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  Speaker 3: Of the United States. Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Now let's pivot away from the President's executive order to
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  Speaker 4: what's happening here in Congress. As I said earlier, and
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  Speaker 4: as you observed, I've been pushing to designate the Muslim
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  Speaker 4: Brotherhood for more than a decade.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 4: I've introduced legislation to do so in all but one
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  Speaker 4: Congress since I was elected. This Congress, I introduced a
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  Speaker 4: version of my bill, the Muslim Brotherhood Terrorist Designation Act,
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  Speaker 4: that uses the same bottoms up approach that is in
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  Speaker 4: President Trump's executive order. It has bipartisan support in both chambers.
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  Speaker 4: Last week, frustratingly, the House version of my bill was
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  Speaker 4: advanced but terminally weakened by the House Foreign Affairs Committee.
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  Speaker 4: We took out the designation part of the Muslim Brotherhood
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  Speaker 4: Terrorist Designation Act. The Senate should do better, and we
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  Speaker 4: should move the full bill on our side. Some public
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  Speaker 4: reports and statements have claimed that House members, including House Republicans,
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  Speaker 4: did not believe that Congress should have a role in
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  Speaker 4: crafting sanctions which are to be implemented by the executive
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  Speaker 4: I find that argument to be specious, and I know
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  Speaker 4: the vast majority of this committee does as well, Mister Lerherfel,
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  Speaker 4: I and my colleagues have implicit and explicit expectations that
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  Speaker 4: executive officials will work with and, when appropriate, even defer
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  Speaker 4: to this Committee on issues of foreign policy, including sanctions
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  Speaker 4: and including the designation of terrorist groups. What is your
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  Speaker 4: view of the role that Congress plays on these issues,
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  Speaker 4: including on initiatives like mine to designate the Muslim Brotherhood
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  Speaker 4: as a terrorist group.
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  Speaker 5: Senator Cruz, thank you for your question. I fully respect
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  Speaker 5: Congress's Article one authority and making laws, including with respect
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  Speaker 5: to foreign terror organization designations or other types of designations.
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  Speaker 5: Whatever legislation has passed, I will faithfully execute if I
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  Speaker 5: am confirmed.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you all right.
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  Speaker 4: Final question, one element of this debate that continues to
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  Speaker 4: surprise me, and I don't think the American people, even
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  Speaker 4: many people here in Congress, I don't think they appreciate
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  Speaker 4: the degree to which are allies support acknowledging and designating
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  Speaker 4: the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization. As you know, Jordan, Egypt,
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  Speaker 4: Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Bahrain, Kenya, they have all already
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  Speaker 4: designated the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization. These are
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  Speaker 4: our allies and partners in the Middle East and Africa,
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  Speaker 4: and there's a pernicious narrative that doing the same thing
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  Speaker 4: they've done designating the Muslim Brotherhood will somehow alienate these partners.
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  Speaker 4: Describe how you would work with our allies to counter
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  Speaker 4: the Brotherhood's malign activities.
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  Speaker 5: Senator Cruz, thank you for that question. I can say
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  Speaker 5: that in a previous capacity in the Bureau of counter Terrorism,
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  Speaker 5: I led our efforts to designate the IRGC, get designations
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  Speaker 5: of other countries to diet designate the IRGC, as well
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  Speaker 5: as Hbela and Hamas particularly in the Western Hemisphere. That approach,
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  Speaker 5: it's pretty pretty intense diplomacy. It requires a lot of legwork.
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  Speaker 5: I've talked with our chief submission the Western Hemisphere across
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  Speaker 5: to Australia with respect to that, and you saw the
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  Speaker 5: news there about four or five months ago what Australia
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  Speaker 5: did with respect to the IRGC. I would template that
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  Speaker 5: really and get at the Muslim Brotherhood using that diplomatic approach.
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  Speaker 5: That word that is working, and there's more work to
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  Speaker 5: be done. Let me be clear with the IRGC and
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  Speaker 5: his bullah and hamas, but I would template that in
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  Speaker 5: our efforts with the Muslim Brotherhood.
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  Speaker 3: Terrific, very help, thank thank you, Thank.
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  Speaker 1: You, sir.
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  Speaker 2: You're here, your question there, and I want you to
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  Speaker 2: to explain why this is so important.
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  Speaker 6: Center.
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  Speaker 4: We need to be clear eyed. We need to be
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  Speaker 4: clear eyed about the threats to America. The Muslim Brotherhood
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  Speaker 4: is a radical jihadist global terror network. They are funding
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  Speaker 4: jahatas in countries across the globe and we are seeing
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  Speaker 4: we started this podcast by talking about eighteen thousand terrorists
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  Speaker 4: coming to this country. Enter Joe Biden. These are the
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  Speaker 4: Muslim Brotherhood is deliberately promoting people who are seeking to
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  Speaker 4: engage in acts of terror, they're seeking to wage jihad,
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  Speaker 4: and we need to be serious and clear eyed. And
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  Speaker 4: I got to say, there's some Republicans that are nervous
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  Speaker 4: about this, but Donald Trump is not, and his designation
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  Speaker 4: was historic, and I'm continuing to work hand in hand
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  Speaker 4: with him to protect American to protect the American people
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  Speaker 4: against the threat of the Muslim brotherhood, against the threat
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  Speaker 4: of jahadis.
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  Speaker 2: Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation,
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  Speaker 2: you can go back and listen to the full podcast
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  Speaker 2: from earlier this week. Now onto story number two. You
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  Speaker 2: may have heard about AI. It's pretty impressive what it
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  Speaker 2: can do, but there also has to be framework around
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  Speaker 2: it and making sure that it is a way for
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  Speaker 2: us to use the tools and also keep people safe.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of concern with AI also when it
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  Speaker 2: comes to who's going to be leading in the industry.
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  Speaker 2: Is it going to be the United States or China?
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  Speaker 2: And what does AI look like if they're the leader,
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  Speaker 2: and how can they manipulate everything through AI centater. This
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  Speaker 2: is something that we've talked about on this show a lot.
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  Speaker 2: I think we've led on this topic. It's an important
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  Speaker 2: one because it is a race I describe the other
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  Speaker 2: day on TV as this is no different than the
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  Speaker 2: race of the Moon with Russia, the race to the
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  Speaker 2: moon with AI and China.
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  Speaker 1: Whoever gets there first is probably going to win and
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  Speaker 1: own it.
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  Speaker 2: And this is a really really important subject right now.
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  Speaker 2: And it's also when I think that deals with national security.
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  Speaker 4: So the single most important an economic battle we have
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  Speaker 4: in this country right now is the race Fraei. This
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  Speaker 4: is going to transform the world. We may not like it,
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  Speaker 4: but it's going to happen. And the binary choice is
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  Speaker 4: does America win or does China win. Look, whoever wins
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  Speaker 4: the race fraei, the values of that country will define
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  Speaker 4: the characteristics of AI. If you want AI to be
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  Speaker 4: defined by the values of China, if you want it
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  Speaker 4: to be surveillance and control and propaganda and the communist
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  Speaker 4: government controlling every thing you think, then you want China
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  Speaker 4: to win. If you want it to be free speech
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  Speaker 4: and free enterprise and individual rights, then you want America
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  Speaker 4: to win. And this is you think back to the
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  Speaker 4: nineteen nineties. The battle for the Internet was a massive battle.
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  Speaker 4: America won the battle for the Internet. We prevailed this
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  Speaker 4: battle of AI is more consequential than the battle for
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  Speaker 4: the Internet. Today, President Trump signed an executive order seeking
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  Speaker 4: to ensure a consistent national standard of rules for AI
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  Speaker 4: to stop Gavin Newsom and Hockel and JB. Presker and
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  Speaker 4: on all these left wing democrats in the States from
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  Speaker 4: putting contradictory, burdensome, inconsistent rules on AI that ends up
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  Speaker 4: crippling American AI and letting China win. I want you
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  Speaker 4: to listen to Presidents he talked about this today.
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  Speaker 3: Well, thank you very much.
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  Speaker 6: We have a big signing right now, and we have
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  Speaker 6: a tremendous industry.
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  Speaker 3: Where we're leading by a lot.
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  Speaker 6: It's the AI artificial intelligence. I always thought it should
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  Speaker 6: be SI Supreme Intelligence, but I guess somewhere along the
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  Speaker 6: line they decided under word artificial and that's okay with me.
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  Speaker 6: That's up to them.
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  Speaker 3: It's a massive industry.
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  Speaker 6: We're leading China, We're leading everybody by a tremendous amount.
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  Speaker 6: Where the electricity is being built by them in every
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  Speaker 6: plant they're building the electricity. We're getting them rapid approvals,
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  Speaker 6: but they're spending trillions of dollars and they can't. Basically,
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  Speaker 6: this is a couple of other things that are less important.
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  Speaker 6: But one of the things it has is you have
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  Speaker 6: to have a central source of approval. When they need
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  Speaker 6: approvals of things, they have to come to one source.
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  Speaker 6: They can't go to California, New York and various other
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  Speaker 6: places like Illinois with Pritzker, who's you know, a totally
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  Speaker 6: unreasonable person, and they have to have you know, they're
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  Speaker 6: putting all this money in. It's a big part of
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  Speaker 6: the economy and there's only going to be I think
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  Speaker 6: one winner here. I don't know if anybody agrees with that.
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  Speaker 6: I think most people agree, but there's only going to
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  Speaker 6: be one winner here, and that's probably going to be
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  Speaker 6: the US or China, and right now we're winning.
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  Speaker 3: By a lot.
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  Speaker 6: China has a central source of approval. I don't think
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  Speaker 6: they have any approval. They's go and built, but people
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  Speaker 6: want to be in the United States and they want
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  Speaker 6: to do it here we have the big investment coming.
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  Speaker 6: But if they had to get fifty different approvals from
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  Speaker 6: fifty different states, you could forget it because it's not
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  Speaker 6: possible to do especially if you have some hostile All
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  Speaker 6: you need is one hostile actor and you wouldn't be
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  Speaker 6: able to do it. So it doesn't make sense. I
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  Speaker 6: didn't have to be briefed in this. By the way,
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  Speaker 6: this is real easy business. I mean, this is simple.
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  Speaker 6: So we're very happy with that. But this is about
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  Speaker 6: something a little bit different. We want to have one
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  Speaker 6: central source of approval, and we have I think great
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  Speaker 6: Republican support. I think we probably have Democrats support too,
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  Speaker 6: because it's common sense. I mean, you can't go to
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  Speaker 6: every time you make a change, and it could be
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  Speaker 6: a very reasonable change, you still won't get it approved
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  Speaker 6: if you have to go to fifty states. So this
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  Speaker 6: centralizes it, and it's something which the people behind me,
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  Speaker 6: the very distinguished people all but Tim Cook just left
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  Speaker 6: of Apple and spoke to all of the big companies,
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  Speaker 6: great companies, and they won't be able to do this.
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  Speaker 6: This will not be successful unless they have one source
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  Speaker 6: of approval or disapproval. Frightenly, you could have disapproval too,
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  Speaker 6: but it's got to be one source. They can't go
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  Speaker 6: to fifty different sources.
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  Speaker 2: This seems to be a core point of what the
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  Speaker 2: President and what you were trying to accomplish, which is
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  Speaker 2: that one source, because otherwise it would be impossible to
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  Speaker 2: grow AI and to deal with it the way that
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  Speaker 2: we need to deal with it. If you didn't have
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  Speaker 2: this kind of one standard across the board.
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  Speaker 4: Look, AI is transformational. Think back to the nineteen nineties.
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  Speaker 4: The nineteen nineties, Bill Clinton was president and the Internet.
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  Speaker 4: It was the dawn of the Internet, and we made
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  Speaker 4: a choice. America made a choice to do a light
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  Speaker 4: touch regulatory approach to the Internet, and we ended up
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  Speaker 4: winning that race. America dominates tech, We dominate the Internet.
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  Speaker 4: It produced hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of jobs
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  Speaker 4: in the United States. That was incredibly consequential. AI is
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  Speaker 4: the same point. And Ben, I'll say, Look, I understand
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  Speaker 4: people across the country. They're nervous about AI. They're afraid.
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  Speaker 4: They don't want AI to come take their jobs. They
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  Speaker 4: don't want AI to render them irrelevant. They don't like
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  Speaker 4: the technology. And I get that that's not a crazy
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  Speaker 4: thing to think. But look my view, I'm not a
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  Speaker 4: lut eyed. I don't think the fact that you're nervous
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  Speaker 4: about technology can make it go away. As much as
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  Speaker 4: you might be worried. Listen, I'll readily admit if there
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  Speaker 4: were a button in front of me right now to
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  Speaker 4: destroy every cell phone in the world, I'd push that
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  Speaker 4: button because I think cell phones are a portal. You know,
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  Speaker 4: I'm a dad. I've got two teenage girls. Cell phones
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  Speaker 4: are a portal to every evil.
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  Speaker 3: Force in the world at our kids.
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  Speaker 4: But we don't live in that world. AI is here,
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  Speaker 4: it is coming. We have a binary choice. Does America
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  Speaker 4: win it? Or does China win it. I want you
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  Speaker 4: to listen to what I had to say with President
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  Speaker 4: Trump in the Oval today.
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  Speaker 3: Give a listen.
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  Speaker 6: Ted Cruz has been a very strong advocate of this
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  Speaker 6: is common sense. I mean, I think it's nothing one
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  Speaker 6: of the common sense.
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  Speaker 3: Please diad listen.
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  Speaker 4: This is the single most important economic question in the
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  Speaker 4: country and in the world.
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  Speaker 3: Who wins the race for AI.
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  Speaker 4: You look back to the nineteen nineties, there was a
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  Speaker 4: similar inflection point with the beginning of the Internet, the
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  Speaker 4: dawn of the Internet, and Bill Clinton was president at
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  Speaker 4: the time. He signed an executive order just like you're
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  Speaker 4: doing that put into law a light touch regulatory approach
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  Speaker 4: to the Internet, and the result was incredible economic growth
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  Speaker 4: in jobs in the United States. Is the same time,
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  Speaker 4: the European Union took a very heavy handed regulatory approach.
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  Speaker 3: Here's an amazing statistic, mister president.
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  Speaker 4: In nineteen ninety three, the US economies in Europe's economy
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  Speaker 4: were virtually identical in size. Today, America's economy is more
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  Speaker 4: than fifty percent larger than Europe's, and the two drivers
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  Speaker 4: of that are tech and the shale revolution. It transformed
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  Speaker 4: this country, and AI is the same thing. It's a race,
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  Speaker 4: and if China wins the race, whoever wins, the values
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  Speaker 4: of that country will affect all of AI. We don't
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  Speaker 4: want China's values of surveillance and centralized control by the communist.
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  Speaker 3: Government governing AI.
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  Speaker 4: We want American values of free speech, of individual liberty,
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  Speaker 4: of respecting the individual. So this executive order, I believe
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  Speaker 4: is a tremendously important Thank you for your leadership, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, Senator, Just to underscore how important this is and
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  Speaker 2: what you just described there, even Donald Trump on true
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  Speaker 2: Social said The Wall Street Journal has another ridiculous story
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  Speaker 2: today that China's dominating us in the world on the
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  Speaker 2: production of electricity having to do with AI.
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  Speaker 1: They're wrong.
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  Speaker 2: As usual, every AI plant being built in the United
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  Speaker 2: States is building its own electric generating facilities. The approvals
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  Speaker 2: are being given carefully but very quickly a matter of weeks.
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  Speaker 2: Any excess electricity being produced is going to go to
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  Speaker 2: our electric grid, which is being strengthened and expanded for
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  Speaker 2: the purpose for other purposes than AI. Like this is
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  Speaker 2: not just moving forward and protecting us and going to
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  Speaker 2: this race with China. Who's going to be in charge
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  Speaker 2: of it, who's going to be the best at it?
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  Speaker 2: But this is also building American infrastructure and a lot
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  Speaker 2: of American jobs are actually going to be created out
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  Speaker 2: of this as well.
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  Speaker 7: Well.
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: This is a common sense principle. We should be the
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: party of jobs.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: AI.
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: It's going to produce disruption, it's part of the reason
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: people are scared of it, but it's also going to
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: create millions of jobs. And the simple question we want
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: to ask is who do we want to win? Do
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: we want a world where China wins ai AI is coming.
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: You may not like it, you may be scared about it,
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: you may not know, And I get it's easy to say. Listen,
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: I wish nuclear weapons didn't exist. If there were a
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: button to make every nuclear weapon disappear, I'd push that button.
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: But they do exist, and if they exist, I want
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: to make sure America has the best and is able
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: to deter someone attacking us. AI is similar. And I
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: got to say President Trump is being bold, he's being visionary.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: He understands that if we win or lose this, this
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: is the economic battle of the twenty first century. And
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: I was really proud I stood side by side with
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: Donald Trump saying America is going to win the race
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: for AI. We're going to beat China. That is massively
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: important for jobs in America.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: As before, if you want to hear the rest of
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: this conversation on this topic, you can go back and
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: dow the podcast from earlier this week to hear the
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: entire thing. I want to get back to the big
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: story number three of the week you may have missed, Senator.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: We've talked a lot about influence, foreign influence, and there
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: is a lot of people that are like, I don't
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: understand why it's a big deal that a bunch of
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Americans that are conservative in influencers are running to countries
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: like Qatar, taking trips over there that are being paid
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: for by them, and putting up what I would describe
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: as propaganda on social media on behalf of Katar. But
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: people that see they're like, what's the big deal. Tucker
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Carlson shows up, speaks to this Doha forum. Why is
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: that a big deal? Why should I care? I want
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: you to explain before we get to Tucker, what Qatar
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: has been doing to influence America, so people understand who
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: we're dealing with and why you might want to ask
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: the question why would you be going there?
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: I forget Tucker's name.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: There are a lot of concerns I know that have
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: been taking these types of trips recently. They're trying to
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: buy influence in the conservative movement, and it's frustrating because
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: I don't think people understand the threat that Qatar is
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: to this country at all.
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: Look, Qatar is not our friend.
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: Qatar is spending hundreds of millions of dollars lobbying the
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: United States government, spending millions of dollars funding bots. You
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: look at the anti Semitic content, you look at the
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: anti American content that is online, Qatar is funding it.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: By the way, you look at the anti Semitic protests
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: on college campuses, Qatar is funding that that. They are
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: profoundly hostile to American I will tell you there was
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: a conference this past week in Doha, which is in Qatar.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: You had a number of Americans go there. The most
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: prominent of which was Tucker Carlson. And I want to
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: tell you. Look, I sent a tweet so Tucker Carlson
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: was going to interview the Prime Minister of Qatar, and listen.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: I have been very vocal that I think Tucker Carlson
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: has become the most dangerous demagogue in America. I think
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: he's doing enormous damage. But I try to give him
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: an opportunity. So here's what I tweeted before his interview.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: I said the following.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: For years, Tucker Carlson has been accused of being on
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: the payroll of Qatar.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: For years, he has denied it.
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: This is now a beautiful opportunity for him to try
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: to clear his name. Tomorrow, Tucker is interviewing the Prime
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: Minister of Qatar in Doha. Tucker knows how to ask
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: tough questions. Here are a few he should ask. Number One,
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: Al Jazeera is a mouthpiece for anti Americanism, anti Semitism,
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: and Jahadis terrorism. Why does Cutter pour countless tens of
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: millions into supporting it? Number two, why does Cutter back
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: the Muslim Brotherhood, a group designated as the terrorist organization
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: by several of Cutter's neighbors, and which President Trump is
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: also moving to designate Number three. Hamas planned the October
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: seventh atrocities while Cutter hosted hamas leadership. This included the
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: kidnapping and murder of dozens of Americans. Even the Biden
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: administration wanted Cutter to expel Hamas after hostage talks collapsed.
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: Why did Cutter keep hosting hamas leadership.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Let's just pause it for one second as you were
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: tweeting this out, because I don't think we'll understand. And
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: they were actively hosting these terrorists.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: The leaders of a mosque live in Cutter.
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: They live in opulent mansions, They live like billionaires while
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: they are murdering not just Israelis, but Americans, while they
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: are raping not just Israelis but Americans, and Cutter is
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: embracing them. And they're like like movie stars living and Cutter,
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: by the way, Number four, speaking of which, on October seventh,
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: twenty twenty three, Cutter issued a statement saying Israel alone
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: was responsible for the violence. Then in September of twenty
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: twenty four, Cutters of Meir said Israel was responsible for
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: the war expanding to Lebanon.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: Is that still Cutter's position.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: Number five, Cutter is the only Gulf country that still
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: maintains male guardianship and travel restrictions for women. When do
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: you intend to join the civilized world? So if you
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: actually believe women have rights, that ain't the case?
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: And Cutters numbers.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Do you mean by that real fast?
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: So that people understand the context of it, of what
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: you because it made just sound like okay, what does
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: that even mean for women? What is life like there?
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Explain how that's so far back in the Stone Ages?
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: Look, the rights of women are severely livered limited and Cutter.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: Males are treated as the decision makers. They have control
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: over their wives, they have control over their daughters, and
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: the rights of women are are severely diminished and Cutter,
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: So that's an obvious question to ask of like why
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: don't you believe women have any rights?
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: Number six?
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: How much is Cutter paying to fund anti Semitic protests
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: on US college campuses? Understand, we saw protests all over America.
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: Cutter was spending millions of dollars to fund that, and
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: simple question why Number seven, how much is Cutter paying
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: to spy on US government officials?
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: And why? And to be clear, there were multiple news stories.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: Cutter hired spies to spy on me because they viewed
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: me as the US government official most skeptical and antagonistic
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: of Cutters.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: So they're actively spying on me.
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: And number eight, finally, how much exactly are you paying
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: conservative influencers to come to this conference and participate? Now,
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: if Tucker had asked those questions, it would have been
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: a big deal, like he could actually he had the
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: Prime minister every one of those questions they don't have
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: a good answer to. But he didn't ask those questions.
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: He didn't ask any difficult questions. He did the same
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: thing he did when he interviewed Putin, which is he
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: embraced him and kissed his rear end. He did the
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: same thing when he interviewed the president of Iran, which
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: is he embraced him and kissed his rear end. Tucker
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: has a pattern. If you're an enemy of America who
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: wants to murder Americans, he will not ask you a
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: single hostile question. I want you to listen to this exchange.
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: This is a snippet of the back and forth between
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: Tucker and the Prime Minister of Cutter.
• 26:03
  Speaker 8: So that last question, I've been personally not to make
• 26:07
  Speaker 8: it about me, but I have been criticized as being
• 26:09
  Speaker 8: a tool of Katar, and I just want to say
• 26:13
  Speaker 8: what you already know, which is I've never taken anything
• 26:15
  Speaker 8: from your country and don't plan to. I am, however, tomorrow,
• 26:19
  Speaker 8: buying a place in Qatar, both because I am paying
• 26:23
  Speaker 8: a HI check in oh Ya, and I'm doing that
• 26:25
  Speaker 8: because I like the city. I think it's beautiful, but
• 26:28
  Speaker 8: also to make a statement that I'm an American and
• 26:30
  Speaker 8: a freeman and I'll be wherever I want to be, which.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: I think is important.
• 26:35
  Speaker 8: But that does kind of leave us in a place
• 26:37
  Speaker 8: where I have not taken any money from Qatar. I
• 26:42
  Speaker 8: have instead given money to Qatar, and I wonder if
• 26:46
  Speaker 8: you feel that that means I've bought you and you
• 26:49
  Speaker 8: will now spew my propaganda.
• 26:50
  Speaker 7: Thank you just asking me what if you want me
• 26:52
  Speaker 7: to do for you, I will do it. But look, Tucker, Unfortunately,
• 26:58
  Speaker 7: as I told you, that, there are a lot of
• 27:01
  Speaker 7: players putting a lot of efforts to sabotage the relationship
• 27:06
  Speaker 7: between Cutter and the United States and to try to
• 27:10
  Speaker 7: dominize anyone who will come to this country. Our efforts
• 27:15
  Speaker 7: when we are lobbying or.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Doing.
• 27:19
  Speaker 7: You know, our outreach in the United States is to
• 27:22
  Speaker 7: make sure that this relationship is safeguarded and the relationship
• 27:26
  Speaker 7: for US is mutually beneficial. We are not getting it
• 27:31
  Speaker 7: from the United States, it's we are. Instead, we are
• 27:35
  Speaker 7: buying from the United States. We are partnering with them.
• 27:38
  Speaker 7: We are investing in the United States, United States investing
• 27:41
  Speaker 7: and cutter. And this relationship has been always a two
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: ways relationship. And we pay all these amounts for lobbying
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: only to protect and to safeguard this relationship. If we
• 27:53
  Speaker 7: are we are not like being attacked and under a
• 27:58
  Speaker 7: lot of like this information campaign that's been unfortunately funded
• 28:03
  Speaker 7: by other players who doesn't want to see a US
• 28:06
  Speaker 7: ratter relationship flourish. We wouldn't, We would spend this money
• 28:13
  Speaker 7: for better things, you know, to do with with the relationship.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, you look at that question center and it's
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: one of those that just you scratch your head because
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: there's just part of this You're like, wait, what did
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: what did I just witness?
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: What did I just watch? There? Like how is this real?
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: And the idea of like I'm buying a place have
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: never taken anything. I just like it here it shows
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: I'm a free man. Didn't ask any questions, not a
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: single tough question of a man that is allowing terrorists
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: to sit in his country and to orchestrate more tears
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: texts that have killed Americans.
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: So understand this government that is hosting Hamas, that is
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: celebrating Hamas, that is funding anti American propaganda and anti
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: Israel propaganda and anti Semitic propaganda. He's the ourrime minister,
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: says to Tucker, Ask me whatever you want, We will
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: do anything you want. He also says to Tucker, we
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: are spending vast amounts and lobbying.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: Understand.
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: Cutter spends hundreds of millions of dollars lobbying the United
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: States government, the United States Congress. By the way, Tucker
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: is obsessed with APAC because he's decided that Jews are
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: the source.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: Of all evil in the world.
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: And Cutter pays two to three times as much as
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: APAC does in lobbying.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: Do you know who APAC is.
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: APACK are Americans that it is not the government of Israel.
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: APAK are Americans who want American Israel to have a
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: close relationship. And so American citizens, many of whom happen
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: to be Jewish. Although not all of them, who support
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: a lot of actually Christian evangelicals also who support a
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: strong relationship between the United States and Israel. They do
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: write checks, but they write checks that that are on
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: order of magnitude anywhere from a third to a half
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: what Cutter, the foreign government writes they spend hundreds of
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: millions of dollars lobbying our government. And I got to say, Tucker,
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: Tucker claims to be America first, he is.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: Literally buying a home in Cutter.
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: Cutter who is actively funding anti American propaganda, anti Semitic propaganda.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: And by the way, Tucker says, oh, I've never taken
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: a penny from you. By the way, you know, I
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: don't know what kind of sweetheart real estate deal he's getting.
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: But who the heck what American? Let me ask you, Ben,
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: you know a lot of people. Do you know any
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: other American who wants to buy a home and Cutter.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: No, I've In fact, I've known a lot of international people.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: I've never heard of anybody going, yeah, I'm head, never
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: to cut her to go buy a home. Never, not like,
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: not one time, no one. And I know people outside
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: the US, they've never said that.
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: Look, I and I think there's a reason for it,
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: which is that I don't know why. I've had conversations
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: about why Tucker has decided by the way, Tucker is
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: actively attacking President Trump's foreign policy. He is furious that
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: President Trump decided to bomb the Iranian nuclear facilities, and
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: even more mad that that bombing was incredibly successful. It
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: was the single most important foreign policy and national security
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: decision that President Trump has made in the second term.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: And Tucker thinking start War three, which I'm pretty sure
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: that's what they said was going to happen.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Isn't that right? It was going to start World War three?
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: So let's be clear, it's not they Tucker predicted if
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: Trump bombed Uran. Yes, he said it would cause World
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: War three, number one. He said thousands of Americans would die,
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: number two. And he said America would lose, Iran would
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: beat us in.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: World War three.
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: Now, every one of those predictions was laughably absurdly wrong.
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: And yet Tucker is now buying a home and cut
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: her and saying, hey, you crazy theocratic Islamist America, hating radicals,
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: you're my people. That is really, really, really dangerous.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the questions that we just asked there, I really
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: hope that all of you will share those on social media,
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Share the episode on social media, share the video we
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: put up on Facebook.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: We put it up on.
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: And Ben, let me ask you a question, Let me
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: ask a questions. Why do you think Tucker didn't ask
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: a single one.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: Of the questions I suggested?
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: I sent eight, and they were not ridiculous questions.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: They were actually questioned.
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: If you were in fact America first, and you're interviewing
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: the leader of this country that that that that is
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: funding things that are profoundly anti American, anybody would ask
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: if you and I were interviewing them, we would.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: Ask those questions. Why do you think Tucker didn't.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: I think it's the same reason why he gave a
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: powderpuff interview with Vladimir Putin. I think it's the same
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: reason why he was sitting down with the head of Iran.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: It is because when he goes there, he knows the
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: role he's playing, which is a propagandist for those countries.
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: I wish that were not the case, but I can't
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: argue against that. He does not ask ask a single
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: question defending America. Instead, he just embraces leaders that that
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: that that are doing enormous damage to Americans, and and
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: and and and that, by the way, is I think
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: significantly undermining President Trump as.
• 33:15
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• 33:19
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• 33:31
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