Latest / The Ben Ferguson Podcast / STUNNING Testimony - 13 Service Men & Women Murdered in Afghanistan COULD HAVE BEEN SAVED & Biden Admin Refused to Act
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome at his verdict was Senator Ted Cruz ben Ferguson
- 0:03Speaker 1: with you as well, and Senator you and I have
- 0:06Speaker 1: been preparing for this show today. It is, in my opinion,
- 0:11Speaker 1: maybe one of the most important podcasts that we've done together.
- 0:15Speaker 1: And it is under the premise of a headline that
- 0:18Speaker 1: the military could have stopped Afghanistan bomber who killed thirteen
- 0:22Speaker 1: American service members, but they, the military men on the ground,
- 0:27Speaker 1: the women on the ground, could not get authorization to
- 0:30Speaker 1: take out this bomber because the Biden administration basically turned
- 0:37Speaker 1: this into a massive quagmire. That is some shocking testimony
- 0:42Speaker 1: that came out from a man that is lucky to
- 0:44Speaker 1: still be alive who told his story to Congress this week. Well,
- 0:49Speaker 1: that's right. Sergeant Tyler Vargas Andrews testified on Wednesday this
- 0:53Speaker 1: week before the House Foreign Affairs Committee, and I got
- 0:57Speaker 1: to say his testimony was incredibly power It is moving,
- 1:02Speaker 1: it is personal. This man as an American hero, and
- 1:07Speaker 1: what he testified about that the failure of the chain
- 1:12Speaker 1: of command above him, that these thirteen servicemen and women
- 1:15Speaker 1: who were murdered could have been saved, is enormously consequential,
- 1:20Speaker 1: and I gotta tell you right now then, I am
- 1:23Speaker 1: pissed off that after this testimony, there's been virtually zero
- 1:29Speaker 1: coverage of this in the corporate media. They've just completely
- 1:34Speaker 1: ignored it. What you're going to hear right now, you
- 1:39Speaker 1: haven't heard on the six o'clock news, you haven't heard
- 1:42Speaker 1: on cable news. And this testimony is important. One of
- 1:46Speaker 1: the things about this podcast. We cover issues of foreign
- 1:49Speaker 1: policy and national security that much of the corporate media ignores.
- 1:54Speaker 1: And this matters because people's lives were lost because of
- 1:58Speaker 1: the incompetence of the Biden administration. There's no doubt about it.
- 2:03Speaker 1: And this is also emotional testimony. We're going to play
- 2:06Speaker 1: large chunks of this. I will say this on the
- 2:09Speaker 1: front end. Please make sure that you share this podcast
- 2:12Speaker 1: because every American needs to hear this testimony so that
- 2:17Speaker 1: you understand what happened in Afghanistan at that airport when
- 2:23Speaker 1: we were pulling out of Afghanistan, and the lack of
- 2:27Speaker 1: command and leadership from the Biden administration. Now, before we
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- 3:31Speaker 1: moment ago as a hero, and you're gonna hear him
- 3:34Speaker 1: talk fast at some points to try to get through
- 3:36Speaker 1: information and then have very long pauses. There were many
- 3:40Speaker 1: times in his testimony that he was crying. If you
- 3:43Speaker 1: hear those long pauses, I just wanted you to know
- 3:45Speaker 1: in context what was going on, and I want you
- 3:48Speaker 1: to hear him tell his story about what it was
- 3:50Speaker 1: like to be at that airport. As they were trying
- 3:52Speaker 1: to find Americans and American allies who had helped us
- 3:55Speaker 1: in that war against terrorists, tens of thousands of people
- 3:59Speaker 1: to send it upon Abbygate. We were looking for anyone
- 4:03Speaker 1: with a blue passport first and foremost people were suffering
- 4:06Speaker 1: from extreme malnutrition, dehydration, heat, casualties and infants were dying.
- 4:11Speaker 1: Afghans were brutalized and tortured by the Taliban, flocked to
- 4:14Speaker 1: us pleading for help. Some Afghans turned away from h
- 4:17Speaker 1: KaiA tried to kill themselves on the razor wire in
- 4:19Speaker 1: front of us that we used as a deterrent. They
- 4:22Speaker 1: thought this was merciful compared to the Taliban torture that
- 4:24Speaker 1: they faced with only shipping. They thought. Countless Afghans were
- 4:32Speaker 1: murdered by the Taliban one hundred and fifty five yards
- 4:34Speaker 1: in front of our position day and night, with only
- 4:37Speaker 1: shipping containers between us. The Taliban would routinely murder people
- 4:40Speaker 1: on our observation at their checkpoint. We communicated the atrocities
- 4:44Speaker 1: to our chain of command and intel assets, but nothing
- 4:46Speaker 1: came of it. The troops on the ground had to
- 4:47Speaker 1: tirelessly work to control the crowds day and night. Department
- 4:50Speaker 1: of State staff and each Kai would completely shut down
- 4:52Speaker 1: processing Afghans every evening and into the morning, leaving ground
- 4:56Speaker 1: forces with a nightmare. They did not work in reasonable
- 4:59Speaker 1: rotations and very much presented an unwillingness to work in
- 5:01Speaker 1: other situations as well. No matter our health or condition,
- 5:04Speaker 1: the marine stood watch and engaged in disorderly, endangerous crowds.
- 5:07Speaker 1: State was not prepared to be in h KaiA. In fact,
- 5:11Speaker 1: State would not want to deal with the Afghans unable
- 5:13Speaker 1: to be processed, weakening the security of the perimeter. State
- 5:15Speaker 1: would take us away from our mission to walk Afghans
- 5:17Speaker 1: out to meet the fate of the Taliban, condemning them
- 5:19Speaker 1: to death. The Taliban grew in numbers and strengthen their
- 5:22Speaker 1: position around ash Kai with gun trucks, while having occasional
- 5:25Speaker 1: visits by Taliban leadership. On August twenty second, an improvised
- 5:29Speaker 1: explosive device IED probe took place down in the canal
- 5:32Speaker 1: running along the perimeter of ah KaiA. This was ISIS
- 5:35Speaker 1: or the Taliban performing an id test run. We reported
- 5:39Speaker 1: this to our chain of command. Days later, we received
- 5:41Speaker 1: word to be on the lookout for two vehicle born
- 5:44Speaker 1: IDs described as a gold or white Corolla and a
- 5:46Speaker 1: green Mazda convertible. Around two am in August twenty sixth,
- 5:50Speaker 1: Intel guys confirmed the suicide bomber in the vicinity of
- 5:53Speaker 1: and nearing Abbey Gate, described as clean shaven, brown dressed,
- 5:57Speaker 1: black vest and traveling with an older companion. I asked
- 6:00Speaker 1: Intel guys why he wasn't apprehended sooner, since we had
- 6:03Speaker 1: a full description. I was told the asset could not
- 6:06Speaker 1: be compromised throughout the entirety of the day. On August twenty,
- 6:09Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, we disseminated the suicide bomber information to
- 6:13Speaker 1: ground Forces Abbeygate. He was spotted somewhere from noon to
- 6:17Speaker 1: one pm by myself, then Sergeant Charles Schilling, and another
- 6:21Speaker 1: the anomaly in the crowd, who was clean shaven and
- 6:24Speaker 1: fit the description exactly, traveling with an older gentleman. The
- 6:27Speaker 1: individuals consistently and nervously looking up at our position through
- 6:30Speaker 1: the crowd. The older of the two wore a black,
- 6:32Speaker 1: silky hit job that was covering his face most of
- 6:35Speaker 1: the time. They both had obvious mannerisms that go along
- 6:38Speaker 1: with who we believed him to be. They handed out
- 6:40Speaker 1: small cards to the crowd periodically, and the older man
- 6:42Speaker 1: sat calmly and seemingly coached the bomber. Over the communication network.
- 6:46Speaker 1: We passed that there was a potential threat and an
- 6:48Speaker 1: idea attack imminent. This was as serious as it could get.
- 6:52Speaker 1: I requested engagement authority. While my team leader was ready
- 6:54Speaker 1: on the M one ten semi automatic sniper system. The
- 6:57Speaker 1: response leadership did not have the engage him an authority
- 7:00Speaker 1: for us do not engage. I requested for the battalion commander,
- 7:04Speaker 1: Lieutenant Colonel Brad Wided to come to the tower to
- 7:07Speaker 1: see what we did. While we waited for him, psychological
- 7:10Speaker 1: operations individuals came to our tower immediately and confirmed the
- 7:13Speaker 1: suspect met the suicide bomber description. He eventually arrived and
- 7:16Speaker 1: we showed him our evidence, the photos we had of
- 7:18Speaker 1: the two men. We reassured him of the ease of
- 7:20Speaker 1: fire on the suicide bomber. Pointedly, we asked him for
- 7:23Speaker 1: engagement authority and permission. We asked him if we could
- 7:25Speaker 1: shoot our battalion commander said, and I quote, I don't
- 7:29Speaker 1: know end quote. Myself and my team later asked, very harshly,
- 7:32Speaker 1: well who does, because this is your responsibility, sir. He
- 7:36Speaker 1: again replied he did not know, but would find out.
- 7:38Speaker 1: We received no update and never got our answer. Eventually,
- 7:42Speaker 1: the individual disappeared. To this day, we believe he was
- 7:44Speaker 1: a suicide bomber. We made everyone on the ground of
- 7:46Speaker 1: where operations had briefly halted but then started again. Plain
- 7:50Speaker 1: and simple, we were ignored. Plain and simple, we were ignored. Senator,
- 7:57Speaker 1: you're an initial reaction to what you just heard. There
- 8:01Speaker 1: are so much about that that is infuriating. Let's start
- 8:06Speaker 1: with the fact that every bit of that was unnecessary.
- 8:11Speaker 1: One of the very first things the Biden administration did
- 8:14Speaker 1: that was utterly incompetent is they abandoned Bagram Airfield. Bagram
- 8:20Speaker 1: Airfield was a secure military base with two world class
- 8:24Speaker 1: runways that had a secure perimeter that was safe that
- 8:28Speaker 1: you could fly people out, that you could do the
- 8:30Speaker 1: vetting with. They abandoned it. They just handed it over
- 8:34Speaker 1: to the Taliban, and so instead they performed the evacuation
- 8:40Speaker 1: through h Kaya. Now, what is h Kai h kayas
- 8:43Speaker 1: is the Hamid Karzai International Airport. It's a commercial airport.
- 8:48Speaker 1: It's it's an ordinary airport right in the middle of Kabul,
- 8:53Speaker 1: right in the middle of a big populated city, surrounded,
- 8:57Speaker 1: not secure, not a military base. The decision to conduct
- 9:03Speaker 1: the evacuation from an unsecure commercial airport rather than a
- 9:08Speaker 1: secure military base was colossally incompetent. It was unjustifiable. The
- 9:16Speaker 1: reason that happened is because the Biden White House put
- 9:22Speaker 1: politics above everyone else and everything else, and so they
- 9:26Speaker 1: ordered the troop draw down before the evacuation was complete.
- 9:31Speaker 1: And so the military told the White House, well, at
- 9:34Speaker 1: the level of troop draw down, you're ordering us to
- 9:37Speaker 1: hit we can't keep Bogram airfield. And the White House
- 9:42Speaker 1: essentially said, we don't care. We picked a number out
- 9:46Speaker 1: of our rear end and we're sticking to that number.
- 9:49Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if that's sufficient manpower to do the
- 9:53Speaker 1: job or not. We got a political endeavor. So you've
- 9:56Speaker 1: got a bunch of incompetent political operatives in the w
- 10:00Speaker 1: White House setting arbitrary political tasks. The result. Look at
- 10:04Speaker 1: the beginning of his testimony, he talks about how as
- 10:07Speaker 1: they were turning away Afghans, and many of these Afghans
- 10:10Speaker 1: may have been interpreters, they may have been people who
- 10:13Speaker 1: gave assistance to our soldiers. And he was talking about
- 10:16Speaker 1: that the Afghans would throw themselves on the razor wire
- 10:22Speaker 1: and try to kill themselves on the razor wire rather
- 10:26Speaker 1: than face torture and murder from the Taliban. That's the
- 10:31Speaker 1: consequence of the utter incomplete incompetence. But then you go forward. Look,
- 10:36Speaker 1: they had the intel that a suicide bomber was coming in.
- 10:40Speaker 1: They had the intel about what the suicide bomber looked like,
- 10:43Speaker 1: They had the intel about what he was wearing, They
- 10:46Speaker 1: had the intel about what his companion was, and they
- 10:49Speaker 1: spotted him. They said, there he is. He's right there.
- 10:52Speaker 1: It exactly fit the intel. And this testimony says that
- 10:58Speaker 1: the Marines said, we can take him out right now.
- 11:02Speaker 1: This is a sniper who is sitting there saying we
- 11:05Speaker 1: can take him out. We know that a suicide bomber
- 11:08Speaker 1: is coming, we know what he looks like. He is
- 11:10Speaker 1: behaving exactly like a suicide bomber. And the utter incompetence
- 11:15Speaker 1: of the Biden administration is that as as you just heard,
- 11:21Speaker 1: we were ignored. They didn't do anything, and and it's
- 11:29Speaker 1: difficult to overstate how much that makes my blood boil.
- 11:32Speaker 1: One of the things that he said was he said
- 11:34Speaker 1: it was the ease of fire. Yes, this was not
- 11:37Speaker 1: a hard shot. They were saying, this is easy. It
- 11:41Speaker 1: is as safe as it can get. It's as clear
- 11:43Speaker 1: of a shot as we can get. If you talk
- 11:46Speaker 1: to people in the military. We're describing it that way.
- 11:48Speaker 1: They were saying, this was a no brainer scenario, and
- 11:52Speaker 1: they just couldn't get somebody to tell them to go
- 11:57Speaker 1: ahead and shoot based on the intel agents, not based
- 12:00Speaker 1: on a hunt hunch this individual. And that I got
- 12:05Speaker 1: to ask you sooner. Going back in his testimony to
- 12:08Speaker 1: another point he made, he said that the Taliban had
- 12:11Speaker 1: done a dry runner. Ices had done a dry run, right.
- 12:14Speaker 1: He also mentioned that they were killing people and they
- 12:17Speaker 1: were doing it almost like they for sport, seeing if
- 12:21Speaker 1: the Americans would respond in or right right in front
- 12:23Speaker 1: of them, right in front of him, and they knew
- 12:26Speaker 1: I think clearly they were trying to figure out how
- 12:28Speaker 1: weak America was at that moment, and they're like, all right, well,
- 12:31Speaker 1: if we kill this guy right here in front of him,
- 12:33Speaker 1: they don't do anything. We really are in control of
- 12:36Speaker 1: this airfield. We really are in control of this other
- 12:39Speaker 1: roadways to this airfield because the Americans are not given
- 12:42Speaker 1: the power to engage. That's exactly right. And look, I
- 12:50Speaker 1: want to convey a story to illustrate because there is
- 12:54Speaker 1: a reason why this happened. And early on in the
- 13:00Speaker 1: Trump administration, I bumped into General Mark Milly. General Milly
- 13:05Speaker 1: now the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. I've
- 13:07Speaker 1: known General Milly since he was a three star general
- 13:10Speaker 1: when he was the commanding general general at Fort Hood
- 13:12Speaker 1: in Texas. And I was talking with General Milly, and
- 13:18Speaker 1: it was the very beginning of the Trump administration, and
- 13:21Speaker 1: he told me, he said, I was asking about the
- 13:28Speaker 1: Islamic State, and the Islamic State, you recall, had seized
- 13:33Speaker 1: land their self declared caliphate, about the size of the
- 13:38Speaker 1: state of Indiana that they had control over. And you'll
- 13:43Speaker 1: recall under Obama we'd been fighting there for a long
- 13:46Speaker 1: time and fighting there and making very little progress, and
- 13:49Speaker 1: fighting there and making little, very little progress. And I
- 13:52Speaker 1: asked General Milly at the beginning of the Trump administration
- 13:56Speaker 1: how things looked, what his assessment was of our prospects
- 14:01Speaker 1: for success for taking out the Islamic State, and his
- 14:05Speaker 1: answer shocked me. He said, we will retake every square inch,
- 14:14Speaker 1: or virtually every square inch of the Islamic State caliphate
- 14:22Speaker 1: in just a few months. And I asked him, I said,
- 14:25Speaker 1: what why? What changed? And he said one thing, And
- 14:32Speaker 1: I wondered. He said one thing. He said, they've delegated
- 14:40Speaker 1: decisions down to the battlefield of when and how to engage.
- 14:45Speaker 1: During the Obama administration, the White House made tactical battlefield decisions.
- 14:54Speaker 1: Susan Rice, who was the National Security Advisor. Soldiers in
- 14:58Speaker 1: the field would joke and they'd call her General Rice
- 15:01Speaker 1: because they were literally determining, you can engage here, you
- 15:06Speaker 1: can engage here, you can engage in this instance, you
- 15:08Speaker 1: can engage in that instance. And it was run out
- 15:11Speaker 1: of the White House by the political operatives in the
- 15:13Speaker 1: White House. What Trump did at the outset as he said,
- 15:17Speaker 1: what does it take to defeat these guys? All right,
- 15:21Speaker 1: you have the authority on the battlefield to engage and
- 15:25Speaker 1: take out the enemy. And simply giving that operational control
- 15:29Speaker 1: down to the battlefield transformed the battlefield. And it turned
- 15:33Speaker 1: out what General Militoby was right that within just a
- 15:36Speaker 1: couple of months from then, every single square inch or
- 15:40Speaker 1: virtually every square inch that the Islamic State had taken
- 15:45Speaker 1: had fallen and they were utterly defeated. And this testimony
- 15:50Speaker 1: shows the consequences. What does it tell us. It tells
- 15:53Speaker 1: us that Biden came in with these same knitwits who
- 15:57Speaker 1: were running the Obama disastrous National Security Council and they
- 16:02Speaker 1: did the same thing. So in this instance, the sergeant testifies,
- 16:08Speaker 1: they say, we've got the suicide bomber. He's in front
- 16:10Speaker 1: of us, he's in our rifle sights. We can take
- 16:14Speaker 1: him out. And his commander says, I don't even know
- 16:18Speaker 1: who'd ask. It's got to be up in the chain.
- 16:21Speaker 1: I don't know if that had to go all the
- 16:22Speaker 1: way to the National Security Council or not. What I
- 16:25Speaker 1: do know is the result was it had gone back
- 16:29Speaker 1: to the same utterly ineffective ability for the war fighters
- 16:36Speaker 1: to engage with the enemy. And in this instance the
- 16:39Speaker 1: consequences were devastating. Not only were they devastating, but you
- 16:44Speaker 1: also mentioned it earlier. This was all decisions made on politics,
- 16:49Speaker 1: and I want to remind people this was about having
- 16:53Speaker 1: a victory lap for the Biden administration. They wanted to
- 16:57Speaker 1: say we got out of nine to eleven, a war
- 17:01Speaker 1: that started because of nine to eleven before the date,
- 17:03Speaker 1: on the anniversary of nine to eleven, that was why
- 17:07Speaker 1: they rushed everybody out of Afghanistan as they wanted a
- 17:09Speaker 1: victory Lapp saying on this anniversary nine eleven, we are
- 17:12Speaker 1: out of America as long as war. And that was
- 17:15Speaker 1: the obsession with that date and not caring about American
- 17:20Speaker 1: carnage or anybody else that helped Americans or innocent and
- 17:23Speaker 1: people in Afghanistan, because that was ultimately the goal they
- 17:27Speaker 1: wanted that press conference. Look, that's exactly right. And and
- 17:32Speaker 1: we've seen if you go back to the Vietnam War,
- 17:34Speaker 1: when when you have war fighting dictated by political operatives
- 17:39Speaker 1: and politicians in Washington, when their mate, when they're micro
- 17:43Speaker 1: managing the engagement with the enemy, the result is that
- 17:48Speaker 1: that servicemen and women die, young men and young women,
- 17:53Speaker 1: young Americans die, And on that tragic day that that
- 17:57Speaker 1: that that's exactly what happened. It's truly sad. I want
- 18:02Speaker 1: to play this second part. It's very emotional and I'll
- 18:06Speaker 1: say it again everybody, this should have been covered by
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- 18:27Speaker 1: second part, I do need to tell you a better
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- 19:35Speaker 1: The second part that we're gonna play and you're gonna
- 19:37Speaker 1: hear some pauses, you're gonna hear some tears. This is
- 19:41Speaker 1: a man that is telling his story to the world
- 19:44Speaker 1: for the first time of what happened at that airport
- 19:47Speaker 1: as we were rushing to pull out of Afghanistan, all
- 19:50Speaker 1: because we're trying to hit an arbitrary date for political gain.
- 19:53Speaker 1: Here's the second part of this story. Our expertise was disregarded.
- 19:59Speaker 1: No one was held to count for our safety. About
- 20:02Speaker 1: seventeen thirty, staff Sergeant Darren Hoover, friend and mentor, came
- 20:13Speaker 1: to get me from the tower to go help find
- 20:14Speaker 1: an Afghan interpreter. In the crowd y. We found the
- 20:42Speaker 1: interpreter and his brother born with American passports. They told
- 20:47Speaker 1: us five told us of five family members still in
- 20:49Speaker 1: the canal. I stayed there waiting for the family members,
- 20:53Speaker 1: standing against a two foot canal wall. Ten minutes passed,
- 20:59Speaker 1: then a flash in a massive wave of pressure, I'm
- 21:02Speaker 1: throwing twelve feet onto the ground, but instantly knew what
- 21:05Speaker 1: had happened. I opened my eyes to marines dead or
- 21:08Speaker 1: unconscious lying around me. A crowd of hundreds immediately vanished
- 21:36Speaker 1: in front of me, and my body was catastrophically wounded,
- 21:38Speaker 1: with a one hundred, two hundred and fifty ball bearings
- 21:41Speaker 1: now in it. Almost immediately we started taking fire from
- 21:44Speaker 1: the neighborhood, and I saw how injured I was, with
- 21:46Speaker 1: my right arm completely shredded and unusable. I saw my
- 21:51Speaker 1: lower abdomen soaked in blood. I crawled backwards roughly seven
- 22:03Speaker 1: feet because I thought I was still in harm's away.
- 22:06Speaker 1: My body was overwhelmed from the trauma of the blast.
- 22:09Speaker 1: My abdomen had been ripped open. Every inch of my
- 22:11Speaker 1: exposed body except from my face to ball banks and strapnel.
- 22:18Speaker 1: I tried to get up but could not. Laying there
- 22:20Speaker 1: for a few minutes, I started to lose consciousness when
- 22:24Speaker 1: I heard Chaz, my team leader, screaming my name. As
- 22:27Speaker 1: he ran to me. His voice, his voice calling to
- 22:32Speaker 1: me kept me awake. Thank you. When he got to me,
- 22:57Speaker 1: he dragged me to safety and immediately started triaging me,
- 23:00Speaker 1: tying turnikis on my limbs and doing anything he couldn't
- 23:02Speaker 1: stop the bleeding and start plucking wounds with the help
- 23:04Speaker 1: of the other Marines. I was awake through most of it, screaming,
- 23:07Speaker 1: moaning and cursing. Please ask I ask you to please
- 23:11Speaker 1: ask me about getting shot at the tower and Abby Gate,
- 23:14Speaker 1: and how no one wanted my report post blast, even
- 23:17Speaker 1: NCIS and the FBI failed to interview me. Asked me
- 23:19Speaker 1: to elaborate on my ordeal post blast, and asked me
- 23:23Speaker 1: about the one little girl and her family that I reunited.
- 23:26Speaker 1: Our military members and veterans deserve our best because that
- 23:29Speaker 1: is what we give to America. The withdrawal. The withdrawal
- 23:34Speaker 1: was a catastrophe in my opinion, and there was an
- 23:37Speaker 1: inexcusable lack of accountability and negligence. The eleven Marines, one
- 23:43Speaker 1: sailor and one soldier that were murdered that day have
- 23:48Speaker 1: not been answered for. Thank you for giving me this
- 23:51Speaker 1: opportunity to speak. Sinner. My heart goes out to him
- 23:57Speaker 1: because you can hear the pain, the suffering in the
- 24:00Speaker 1: fact that he says no one wanted to hear my story.
- 24:05Speaker 1: Let me say this, thank you to Sergeant Vargas Andrews. Tyler.
- 24:13Speaker 1: Vargus Andrews is an American hero, and he is a
- 24:22Speaker 1: marine who was horribly failed by his commander in chief.
- 24:32Speaker 1: He's a marine who was horribly failed by the command
- 24:39Speaker 1: shain above him that was ordered to follow political dictates
- 24:47Speaker 1: and to elevate political priorities above protecting the Marines and
- 24:55Speaker 1: the soldiers and sailors and airmen who were there on
- 24:59Speaker 1: the ground risking their I listened to that testimony, you know,
- 25:10Speaker 1: and I got to ask, if you're a producer at
- 25:14Speaker 1: ABC News or NBC News or CBS or CNN or MSNBC,
- 25:24Speaker 1: why didn't you air that testimony? What possibly was happening
- 25:30Speaker 1: on Wednesday that was more important than what Sergeant Vargus
- 25:39Speaker 1: Andrews had to say, What was more important than his
- 25:43Speaker 1: testimony That they knew about the suicide bomber, that they
- 25:47Speaker 1: had him in his sight, that they could have taken
- 25:50Speaker 1: him out, that they could have saved the lives of
- 25:53Speaker 1: those thirteen servicemen and women, and their commanding officers wouldn't
- 26:02Speaker 1: let him do it. I can't imagine a news story
- 26:10Speaker 1: more important than that. And this young man, this American hero,
- 26:19Speaker 1: a hundred to one hundred and fifty ball bearings in
- 26:23Speaker 1: his body, and it all could have been prevented. Number one,
- 26:29Speaker 1: if they'd stayed in Bogram Airfield and dune the evacuation
- 26:33Speaker 1: from a secure military base, it could have been prevented there.
- 26:37Speaker 1: Or number two if they simply allowed warfighters to defend
- 26:44Speaker 1: themselves and to take out the enemy when they're engaging
- 26:47Speaker 1: with him, if they didn't play like they're engaging in
- 26:51Speaker 1: a game of risk, a board game by a bunch
- 26:57Speaker 1: of political neo fights who never put on a uniform
- 27:04Speaker 1: in their lives, but are more than happy to say, well, look,
- 27:10Speaker 1: the headline is what we care about, not how do
- 27:15Speaker 1: you prevent these young men and young women from being
- 27:17Speaker 1: murdered by the terrorists to whom they were in the
- 27:22Speaker 1: process of surrendering too. There's also another question, I say another,
- 27:28Speaker 1: there's quite a few, but the fact that he wasn't
- 27:31Speaker 1: interviewed Senator Yep. The only reason why I can get
- 27:36Speaker 1: get to a process of saying why wouldn't you interview
- 27:39Speaker 1: him because you knew what he was gonna say, and
- 27:41Speaker 1: you didn't want to hear it because you knew how
- 27:44Speaker 1: damning it was. And so therefore he said, no one
- 27:48Speaker 1: interviewed him from the FBI. CI asked, no, No, nobody
- 27:51Speaker 1: interviewed him at all. He was there, he knew who
- 27:57Speaker 1: he knew, He knew who the bomber was. He was
- 27:59Speaker 1: there for the dr run. All of this happens, no
- 28:02Speaker 1: one interviews him. That to me screams cover up. The
- 28:05Speaker 1: administration knew this was a problem, that the Pentagon, the
- 28:09Speaker 1: OJ knew this was a problem, and they said, we
- 28:11Speaker 1: don't want to hear from the people that were there
- 28:13Speaker 1: because we're too afraid of what they're gonna say. Look,
- 28:17Speaker 1: he says, when he asked his superior officer, where do
- 28:21Speaker 1: you get authorization? The answer was, I don't know. What
- 28:26Speaker 1: in the hell are these people doing. If we are
- 28:31Speaker 1: sending marines into combat where they don't even know where
- 28:35Speaker 1: they get authorization to take out a suicide bomber before
- 28:39Speaker 1: that suicide bomber murders them, that's incompetent. But it is
- 28:48Speaker 1: also it's not just that they're bad at it. It's
- 28:51Speaker 1: ideology that is causing that incompetence. You're right, they wanted
- 28:55Speaker 1: to hit the nine to eleven anniversary because you know what,
- 28:58Speaker 1: they're friends in the media. I would say, isn't that great? Look,
- 29:01Speaker 1: Joe Biden had a great political victory, and you know,
- 29:04Speaker 1: from their end, doing it so that people didn't die,
- 29:13Speaker 1: doing it, so that our servicemen and women were protected,
- 29:17Speaker 1: doing it so you didn't have Afghans killing themselves by
- 29:20Speaker 1: throwing themselves on razor wire. None of that rose even
- 29:29Speaker 1: remotely to the level of their political objective of getting
- 29:32Speaker 1: a partisan win. And you know what's also infuriating Ben.
- 29:37Speaker 1: To the best of my knowledge, nobody was fired. There
- 29:40Speaker 1: was no accountability. All of the top brass are still there.
- 29:44Speaker 1: The Secretary of Defense is still there. No one lost
- 29:48Speaker 1: their job. You know. One of the things that that
- 29:51Speaker 1: that that that sergeant, the sergeant testifies too, is that
- 29:56Speaker 1: the State Department wasn't prepared at all handle things at
- 30:02Speaker 1: h Kaya. You know what, the Secretary of State, he
- 30:06Speaker 1: didn't lose his job. Nobody up and down the chain
- 30:08Speaker 1: of command. The only people who paid a price were
- 30:11Speaker 1: the people who were murdered, the people who were horribly injured,
- 30:14Speaker 1: the people who were tortured by the Taliban, They're the
- 30:18Speaker 1: ones that paid the price. But the political operatives all
- 30:21Speaker 1: up and down are still just doing fine and facing
- 30:24Speaker 1: zero accountability. And they know that the corporate media has
- 30:29Speaker 1: no interest in accountability. They have no interest in what
- 30:32Speaker 1: happened that took the lives of those heroic Americans. Final
- 30:38Speaker 1: question for you, Senator, knowing that the Taliban was testing
- 30:44Speaker 1: us in that moment, seeing what they could get away with,
- 30:47Speaker 1: seeing how weak America's foreign policy in real time was becoming,
- 30:51Speaker 1: when they were killing people in essence for sport, just
- 30:54Speaker 1: to basically torture the American soldiers because they realized, wow,
- 30:58Speaker 1: they're really not going to engage age. It wasn't just
- 31:02Speaker 1: a catastrophe that came out of this in Afghanistan. Many
- 31:05Speaker 1: of the world conflicts and problems we're having right now,
- 31:08Speaker 1: I think came out of this man's story because the
- 31:12Speaker 1: rest of the world realized in that moment they can
- 31:16Speaker 1: do whatever the hell they want to do in America
- 31:19Speaker 1: will not stop them. And now that we have this
- 31:22Speaker 1: ball rolling down the hill of a weak America and
- 31:25Speaker 1: others can do what they want, how concerned are you
- 31:28Speaker 1: from a national security standpoint? Enormously concerned. Every enemy of
- 31:33Speaker 1: America saw that disaster. Putin saw it. She saw it,
- 31:40Speaker 1: Iran saw it. North Korea saw it. Venezuela saw it.
- 31:44Speaker 1: Every terrorist cell across the globe, they all saw it,
- 31:48Speaker 1: and all of them came to the same conclusion, which is,
- 31:51Speaker 1: this is a commander in chief, chief who is weak
- 31:55Speaker 1: and incompetent. This is a commander in chief who is
- 31:59Speaker 1: a friend to fight. This is a commander in chief
- 32:02Speaker 1: unwilling to do what it takes even to defend his
- 32:05Speaker 1: own servicemen and women, never mind anyone else. And we're
- 32:10Speaker 1: seeing the consequences of it right now with the war
- 32:13Speaker 1: in Ukraine, the first major land war in Europe since
- 32:16Speaker 1: World War Two. And we're seeing the consequences of it
- 32:20Speaker 1: in the Pacific, with China more and more aggressive and
- 32:24Speaker 1: Taiwan in greater and greater peril. And I'll tell you
- 32:27Speaker 1: I met today with Taiwan's ambassador and I told the ambassador,
- 32:33Speaker 1: I said, look, I think the danger that Taiwan is
- 32:38Speaker 1: in for the next two years of the Biden presidency
- 32:43Speaker 1: is enormous. Because she looked at what happened here and
- 32:49Speaker 1: concluded this president is not strong enough to deter us
- 32:54Speaker 1: from doing anything. Yeah, it is amazing how something like
- 32:58Speaker 1: this can turn into such a big your conflict around
- 33:01Speaker 1: the world. And this is again one of those moments.
- 33:05Speaker 1: I'll say it. I'll ask you make sure people hear
- 33:08Speaker 1: this man's story. He's a hero, and make sure you
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- 34:14Speaker 1: with you. This is one of those shows. As we said,
- 34:16Speaker 1: the beginning so important. I hope people will remember this
- 34:20Speaker 1: man's story and let everybody hear it. We'll see you
- 34:22Speaker 1: back here in a couple of days.