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In Depth: The Biden Crime Family with James Comer and Sen. Ted Cruz · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: The Biden crime family today is having a really tough day.
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Speaker 1: There are new reports out that Hunter Biden and his
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Speaker 1: press conference, which has been seen as a backfire even
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Speaker 1: by the Democratic Leeds, are now saying that Hunter Biden
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Speaker 1: is a real problem for the presidency. New report also
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Speaker 1: says Hunter is a quote loose speedball on Joe's sinking
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Speaker 1: USS reelection. On Wednesday, while defying a legal congressional subpoena,
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Speaker 1: Hunter Biden decided to hold that news conference that we
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Speaker 1: played for you, and if you missed it, you can
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Speaker 1: go back and grab that podcast from yesterday. And the
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Speaker 1: White House's reelection team was not happy about it at all. Now,
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Speaker 1: let me just read for you what they reported on
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Speaker 1: this in Axios. Now, the Axios is a publication online
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Speaker 1: that is a far left publication. They're not looking for
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Speaker 1: conservative readers. They're base is like MSNBC or even more
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Speaker 1: extreme than that.
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Speaker 2: But let me just read for you.
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Speaker 1: And look, Exos has extensive tentacles into the Biden White
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Speaker 1: House and the Biden apparatus at every level of government.
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Speaker 1: That's why them writing this means that there's a lot
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Speaker 1: of people that are really upset about this that work
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Speaker 1: for the president of United States of America and within
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Speaker 1: the Democratic Party.
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Speaker 2: Quote.
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Speaker 1: Hunter's new strategy has caused tension between his team and
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Speaker 1: the White House.
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Speaker 2: Top aids the President.
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Speaker 1: Biden originally crafted a plan to largely not respond to
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Speaker 1: attacks and conservative media coverage of Hunter Biden, a risk
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Speaker 1: adverse approach to avoid giving stories more oxygen. But Hunter's
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Speaker 1: team ultimately wasn't satisfied the media coverage didn't die down.
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Speaker 1: His team has come to believe that his lack of
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Speaker 1: a response was alienating potential Democratic allies and hurting his
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Speaker 1: father politically. Hunter's team keeps quote the White House and
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Speaker 1: Joe Biden informed of his plans. The report continues, but
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Speaker 1: the President's team has far less control over hunter strategy
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Speaker 1: than it once had. Yet, Hunter, the deadbeat Dad is
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Speaker 1: a loose speedball on Joe's sinking reelection ship. It gets better.
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Speaker 1: The White House is concerned that if voters believe Hunters corrupt,
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Speaker 1: they'll see Joe Biden as a suspect too.
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Speaker 2: You think now.
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Speaker 1: After that disastrous Wednesday afternoon news conference, Hunter ran to
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Speaker 1: his pals and defenders at Axios to unleash this beauty,
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Speaker 1: saying quote Republicans quote unquote have weaponized my dad's love
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Speaker 1: for me and turned his greatest strength, his compassion, his
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Speaker 1: empathy is authenticity into evidence of corrupt complicity. Weaponize my
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Speaker 1: dad's love for me. That was the main line. Who
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Speaker 1: do you get that from some twelve year old girl?
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Speaker 1: Poetry journal? That's what one writer said. What is even
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Speaker 1: more laughable is the idea that Hunter is doing all
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Speaker 1: of this to help his father. This is a hormonger,
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Speaker 1: so selfish that while he was spending eight hundred and
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Speaker 1: seventy two thousand dollars on sex, he was fighting paying
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Speaker 1: child support payments for his own daughter, an innocent baby girl.
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Speaker 1: Just to put it in perspective, and notice how the
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Speaker 1: media has not made that point. So let's pause there
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Speaker 1: and just really go into that for a second. At
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Speaker 1: the same time that he was spending one hundred and
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Speaker 1: eighty seven thousand dollars on sex trafficking okay, on prostitutes,
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Speaker 1: he refused to pay and was fighting to pay child
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Speaker 1: support and even acknowledging that his child was his own child,
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Speaker 1: an innocent child in Arkansas. The same Biden family that
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Speaker 1: claims they care about you as an American citizen and
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Speaker 1: whatever you're dealing with right now, refuse to allow that
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Speaker 1: child to take the Biden last name. Never forget that
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Speaker 1: they then refused to give the adequate and appropriate documentation
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Speaker 1: for the amount of money that he was making, and
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Speaker 1: then every indication was that he was lying about his
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Speaker 1: income to the point where she had to lawyer up
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Speaker 1: and drag his again, this deadbeat dad's aas into court.
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Speaker 1: The same time all of that was going on, and
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Speaker 1: this lady who he had a child with, was having
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Speaker 1: to fight this legal battle and refusing to acknowledge the
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Speaker 1: existence of his kid. Do not forget that the President
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Speaker 1: of the United States was also refusing to acknowledge the
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Speaker 1: existence of his own grandchild that he knew obviously was his.
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Speaker 1: We also know that he refused to pay child support
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Speaker 1: to the point where he was forced to take a
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Speaker 1: DNA test so that then he would finally start having
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Speaker 1: to pay some sort of child support, and he has
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Speaker 1: fought every step of the way to stop the money
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Speaker 1: going to that child. Now, during Hunter's news conference, where
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Speaker 1: he took no questions, not that he would have been
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Speaker 1: asked anything difficult, right, the House of Representatives voted to
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Speaker 1: open that impeachment inquiry into Hunter's dat for a whole
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Speaker 1: host of alleged crimes and misdemeanors. Additionally, the House Overside
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Speaker 1: Committee has also launched a contempt of Congress charges against
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Speaker 1: Hunter for ignoring their subpoena after former White House aide
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Speaker 1: Peter Navarro and Stephen K. Bann ignored their respective stupid
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Speaker 1: January sixth Committee subpoenas. Both of them guess what were
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Speaker 1: indicted by the DOJ, which brings me to the contempt
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Speaker 1: of Congress proceedings that have been initiated against Hunter Biden,
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Speaker 1: and it does have the potential idea of jail time
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Speaker 1: as well as a fine. That's only if the DOJ
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Speaker 1: will take up these charges the same way they did
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Speaker 1: against Stephen K.
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Speaker 2: Bannon.
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Speaker 1: The others I just mentioned the House Overside Committee Chairman
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Speaker 1: James Comer and the Judiciary Committee Chairman Jim Jordan initial
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Speaker 1: she had the contempt to Congress proceedings against Hunter Biden
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Speaker 1: after the President's sun failed to appear for that subpoena
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Speaker 1: of that closed door deposition on Wednesday, the same type
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Speaker 1: of definite deposition that the children of the then sitting
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Speaker 1: President United States of America Donald J. Trump had to
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Speaker 1: sit for and did sit for now I have prosecuted
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Speaker 1: and convicted to contempt to Congress. Hunter's punishment could be
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Speaker 1: up to one hundred thousand dollars fine, as well as
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Speaker 1: time in jail. A deposition is a standard procedure used
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Speaker 1: by Congressional investigators. The two men stated Democrats use depositions
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Speaker 1: in their investigations regularly, including the Adam Schiff impeachment inquiry,
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Speaker 1: as well as the partisan January sixth Committee. The House
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Speaker 1: Oversight Committee ranking member Jamie Raskins, a Democrat, emphasized the
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Speaker 1: importance of standard closed door depositions.
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Speaker 2: Quote.
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Speaker 1: We will not provide special treatment because his last name
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Speaker 1: is Biden. Coleman and Jordan wrote in their latest letter,
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Speaker 1: as our committees were today prepared to oppose Hunter Biden,
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Speaker 1: he chose to make a public statement on Capitol Hill instead,
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Speaker 1: where he said his father, Joe Biden, was not financially
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Speaker 1: involved in his father's business dealings. Now Representative Matt Gates
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Speaker 1: came out and he said this. Peter Navarro and Steve
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Speaker 1: Bannon were indicted on contempt charges for not complying with
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Speaker 1: the illegitimate January sixth Committee. There was no basis to
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Speaker 1: comply with the Democrats fake Committee. I believe Hunter Biden
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Speaker 1: should be held in contempt to Congress for defying a
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Speaker 1: subpoena from the House Oversight Committee. But it's clear the
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Speaker 1: corrupt White House and CORRUPTDJ will protect their own from
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Speaker 1: prosecuting prosecution while shamelessly targeting their political enemies. Matthew Graves,
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Speaker 1: the DC attorney who prosecuted Navarro and Bannon, worked on
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Speaker 1: the presidential campaign for Joe Biden and other Democrats. I
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Speaker 1: doubt we'll see what we'll be seeing the same indictments
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Speaker 1: against Hunter. This process will not be fixed until we
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Speaker 1: initiate total retribution against the deep state for what they're
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Speaker 1: doing to our country. And not disagree, by the way,
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Speaker 1: with what Matt Gates put out there in his statement
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Speaker 1: on X and here goes. Let's go back to the
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Speaker 1: other question here, number one. Exactly how was Joe Biden involved?
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Speaker 1: Is what the question that we all are asking and
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Speaker 1: the question that should be answered, because evidence shows that
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Speaker 1: Biden met with Hunter's business associates and his name was
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Speaker 1: at the center of the family business strategy the entire time.
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Speaker 1: What was the product? What were they getting from Hunter Biden?
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Speaker 1: Was he giving them widgets?
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Speaker 2: No?
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Speaker 1: Was he an expert in any of the fields that
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Speaker 1: he was operating in. No, was Hunter Biden actually giving
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Speaker 1: them a product that they were purchasing for millions and
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Speaker 1: millions and millions of dollars. No, So what was the business?
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Speaker 1: The business was selling access to the father. The business
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Speaker 1: didn't exist without Joe Biden's position of power in the government,
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Speaker 1: and it doesn't exist without Joe Biden being the Vice
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Speaker 1: President and now the President of United States of America.
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Speaker 1: So the two men, Jordan and Comer, said this. Today,
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Speaker 1: the House will vote on an impeachment inquiry resolution to
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Speaker 1: strengthen our legal case in the court as we face
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Speaker 1: obstruction from the White House and witnesses. And that's the
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Speaker 1: real takeaway here, what we are seeing now and the
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Speaker 1: reason why you move forward this impeachment inquiry resolution is
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Speaker 1: in their right to strengthen the legal case in the
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Speaker 1: courts because they are facing obstruction from the White House
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Speaker 1: he had to say in uninterrupted, long format. It was
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Speaker 1: incredible to hear about the corruption of the Biden crime
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Speaker 1: family and what they've uncovered. And look, we did this
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Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. I wanted to play part of.
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Speaker 1: It for you here so you could hear some of
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Speaker 1: sitting down with James Comer.
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Speaker 3: Take a listen, uh, to really get into the substance.
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Speaker 3: And and a lot has been happening lately. We just
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Speaker 3: had Hunter Biden defy a congressional subpoena. We just had
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Speaker 3: the full House of Representatives vote to authorize formally the
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Speaker 3: impeachment inquiry. And this week there's some breaking news. You're
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Speaker 3: you're you're sending your investigative team on the road. Why
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Speaker 3: don't we start by tell us about that.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, so obviously a lot of these people that we've
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Speaker 4: asked for interviews and depositions, they're trying to use the
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Speaker 4: holiday as an excuse why they can't come in and
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Speaker 4: do it. So we decided we would make it more
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Speaker 4: convenient on them and send our staff to depose them
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Speaker 4: or interview them in their home area. So the first
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Speaker 4: one we're doing is with the owner of Americorp Health,
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Speaker 4: and America War Health was the healthcare company where James Biden,
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Speaker 4: the President's brother, approached them because he heard they were
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Speaker 4: financially distressed and said that because he's a Biden and
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Speaker 4: because of his brother's contacts in the Middle East, that
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Speaker 4: he could help them acquire all the capital they needed
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Speaker 4: to get back on their feet from the Middle East.
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Speaker 5: But they were going to have to.
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Speaker 4: Pay JOm Biden first, and they gave him six hundred
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Speaker 4: thousand dollars and by all accounts, Jim Biden completely defrauded
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Speaker 4: American War Health. He never provided any funding or anything else.
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Speaker 4: But what I about this for Joe Biden, Not only
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Speaker 4: was that a pure example of influence pedaling, Joe Biden
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Speaker 4: received the last payment from Americal Health. They sent a
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Speaker 4: check to Jim Biden for two hundred thousand dollars. The
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Speaker 4: exact same day that Jim Biden received that two hundred
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Speaker 4: thousand dollars check from America Health, they wrote Joe Biden
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Speaker 4: a check for the exact same amount, two hundred thousand dollars.
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Speaker 4: So that was the first example of evidence that we
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Speaker 4: found where Joe Biden directly benefited from the Biden family
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Speaker 4: influenced peddling scheme. So we're going to have our deposers
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Speaker 4: down there talking to them about how this started and
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Speaker 4: what role Joe Biden may have played, and if they
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Speaker 4: ever met Joe Biden and all of that.
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Speaker 5: So that should be very interesting.
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Speaker 1: It's interesting you didn't mention the name Hunter Biden in
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Speaker 1: that story of influence pedaling. That is the part that
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Speaker 1: I think many Americans have maybe not understood, which is
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Speaker 1: this is the entire family that's been involved in getting paid.
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Speaker 1: Can you go into that a little bit more about
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Speaker 1: about James Biden, not just Hunter.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think James Biden probably committed just as many
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Speaker 4: crimes as Hunter Biden. The only reason we don't know
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Speaker 4: about James Biden is he didn't leave a laptop Linery.
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Speaker 4: We've been able to subpoena his bank records, and I
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Speaker 4: can tell you there's a lot of questions we have
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Speaker 4: for Jamis Biden.
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Speaker 5: That's why he received the subpoena.
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Speaker 4: We're working with his attorney and we hope to have
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Speaker 4: him in in January. But at the end of the day,
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Speaker 4: this example with AmeriCorps Help sure looks like securities fraud.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know how else you would you
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Speaker 4: would describe it. But obviously they deserve due process and
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Speaker 4: they're gonna have due process. But we know from court
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Speaker 4: records this americ WARP Help is in federal bankruptcy court.
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Speaker 4: They obviously have accused Jim Biden of a lot of things.
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Speaker 4: So this is all public record, and you know it
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Speaker 4: shows that it wasn't just hunder Biden, this was the
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Speaker 4: whole Biden family.
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Speaker 5: America Jim Biden Hunterman.
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Speaker 3: So Americal Health paid Jim Biden six hundred thousand dollars.
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Speaker 3: As best you can tell, did Jim Biden perform any
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Speaker 3: any service for them, do anything of value for them?
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Speaker 4: According to the court records, America or Health says no
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Speaker 4: other than he went there and you know, made all
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Speaker 4: these promises that you know, Joe Biden's contacts, they would
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Speaker 4: work together and.
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Speaker 5: Help them get all the money from the Middle East,
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Speaker 5: but they never got any This is.
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Speaker 4: They never got a penny. They never got one penny.
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Speaker 4: And it looks like Senator on Jim Biden's bank statements,
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Speaker 4: they tried to say that six hundred thousand dollars payment
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Speaker 4: was a loan. And I think that's a very important
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Speaker 4: aspect of our investigation because from the notes that the
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Speaker 4: whistleblowers have turned over, we know that you know, sometime
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Speaker 4: in twenty eighteen, the Bidens figured out that the IRS
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Speaker 4: was breathing down their necks. They knew that they had
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Speaker 4: all these suspicious activity reports from the banks that were
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Speaker 4: accusing them money laundering and having shell companies and potentially
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Speaker 4: taking bribes, and they changed the way they were operating.
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Speaker 4: They went from receiving wires directly through the shelves to
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Speaker 4: receiving payments and calling them loans.
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Speaker 5: So do you do that.
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Speaker 3: I want to stop and unpack a lot of that.
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Speaker 3: So we hear from the Democrats, we hear from the
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Speaker 3: corrupt corporate media. There's no evidence, no evidence, no evidence,
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Speaker 3: especially no evidence of Joe Biden's involvement. So I want
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Speaker 3: to break down because you had a lot of substance
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Speaker 3: there on the shell companies. How many Biden shell companies
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Speaker 3: did y'all uncover?
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Speaker 5: Twenty?
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Speaker 4: And let me make sure everyone understands this. A shell
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Speaker 4: company is a company with no assets and no known purpose.
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Speaker 4: So the bank email that we released two weeks ago
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Speaker 4: showed the bank examiners saying, you know, they got this
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Speaker 4: wire from China, and he says it's an investment company,
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Speaker 4: but it's an investment company with no investments. And then
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Speaker 4: the account that it went through was essentially a dormant account.
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Speaker 4: So there's evidence that the bank examiners, and if you
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Speaker 4: look at and also the suspicious activity reports, the banks
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Speaker 4: knew these were shell companies, and the banks did everything
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Speaker 4: they were supposed to do by notifying Treasury that wait
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Speaker 4: a bit, this politically exposed family.
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Speaker 5: They're getting wires from our enemies around the world.
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Speaker 4: We don't know what these wires are for, and they're
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Speaker 4: going through companies that have no known purpose or no acres.
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Speaker 3: So shell companies, they're not real businesses. This is not
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Speaker 3: a dry cleaner, this is not a gas station. They're
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Speaker 3: no employees there are no paychecks. They're not a business
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Speaker 3: in any sense. This is a legal entity, and it's
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Speaker 3: a legal entity created to send money to and it's
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Speaker 3: what is often used for money laundering. It's what's often
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Speaker 3: used to hide the source of the money. And you
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Speaker 3: mentioned the suspicious activity reports. So let me ask for
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Speaker 3: our listeners what is a suspicious activity report and how
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Speaker 3: many of them were filed on the Bidens.
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Speaker 4: A suspicious activity report is when the bank notifies the
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Speaker 4: Treasury Cabinet that they believe their client may.
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Speaker 5: Have committed a crime. Now, I want everyone to understand this.
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Speaker 4: Banks don't just do this nonchalantly, like the Washington Post
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Speaker 4: tried to say, No bank wants to file a suspicious
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Speaker 4: activity report center because when you do, that invites the
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Speaker 4: bank examiners to come in and investigate you. And the
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Speaker 4: last thing a bank wants to do is the bank
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Speaker 4: examiners walked through the front door. The Bidens had one
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Speaker 4: hundred and seventy suspicious activity reports filed against them, which
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Speaker 4: is unprecedented.
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Speaker 5: I was the director of a bank for over a decade.
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Speaker 4: Never has anyone received more than one or two that
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Speaker 4: was affiliated with my bank. And the fact that this
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Speaker 4: family got a one hundred seventy from six different banks
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Speaker 4: on dozens of different accounts, showed that there's something bad
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Speaker 4: going on here because the banks are notifying the Treasury.
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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Treasury, we believe the vice president's family are
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Speaker 4: involved in some top of fraud.
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Speaker 3: Well, and James, let me make let me make sure
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Speaker 3: I understand this. Suspicious activity reports are relatively rare. There's
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Speaker 3: something that the bank files with the Treasury Department when
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Speaker 3: they believe there may be evidence of criminal conduct. And
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Speaker 3: if you or I or Ben went and created a
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Speaker 3: shell company, a company that did nothing, that had no employees,
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Speaker 3: that was not a going business, and that shell company
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Speaker 3: began getting multimillion dollar wires from China, from Russia, from Ukraine,
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Speaker 3: that would be the sort of conduct that would trigger
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Speaker 3: a suspicious activity report if any of us did that.
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Speaker 2: Is that right?
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Speaker 5: That's exactly right.
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Speaker 4: And we released an email last week that kind of
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Speaker 4: showed the thought process by a bank examiner. He was
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Speaker 4: communicating with his superior and in the end they filed
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Speaker 4: a suspicious activity report, and this email kind of outlines it.
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Speaker 4: The Banker's Center said, wait a minute, you know this
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Speaker 4: account is pretty much dormant We don't know what this
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Speaker 4: company is. All we know is that the president's son
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Speaker 4: owns it. He got a five million dollar wire from China.
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Speaker 4: We had to contact him to prevent a thar. We said,
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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, mister Biden, we need to know what this
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Speaker 4: wire was, and he said it was a loan, and
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Speaker 4: there's like, oh, a loan from China.
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Speaker 5: Well, we need the loan.
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Speaker 4: Documentation and he said, I don't have any which is ridiculous.
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Speaker 4: No one would loan anyone five million dollars without having
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Speaker 4: some type of loan documentation. So then he said, We
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Speaker 4: feared this could be a bribe because we know China
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Speaker 4: influences politicians through vulnerable family members, and we've seen in
20:53
Speaker 4: the news where his ex wife said he was on drugs,
20:57
Speaker 4: he was in financial trouble. We believe this could be
20:59
Speaker 4: a national security threat.
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Speaker 3: One of the things that you mentioned a minute ago
21:05
Speaker 3: that I want to stop and drill down on a
21:07
Speaker 3: little bit. You said early on the Biden family business,
21:12
Speaker 3: they would just get wires from overseas that were payments
21:15
Speaker 3: through these shell companies. But then there came a time
21:19
Speaker 3: when the irs started coming after them, when they changed
21:22
Speaker 3: how they did business and they began instead of getting
21:25
Speaker 3: wires that were straight out payments, they began calling them loans.
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Speaker 2: Explain that a little bit.
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Speaker 3: More about when they did that and why they would
21:33
Speaker 3: have done that.
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Speaker 4: That change started happening somewhere mid twenty eighteen, and from
21:40
Speaker 4: twenty fourteen to twenty eighteen they were pretty consistent. They would,
21:44
Speaker 4: you know, after Joe Biden would meet with these people,
21:47
Speaker 4: or a hunter would fly on Air Force two, or
21:49
Speaker 4: Joe would talk to him on the phone or have
21:51
Speaker 4: lunch with him, then money would flow through the shell companies,
21:57
Speaker 4: and then they would disperse the money through the show
22:00
Speaker 4: companies to ten different Biden family members. Once twenty eighteen
22:04
Speaker 4: rolled in and they realized the IRS was rolling in
22:07
Speaker 4: on them, and they knew this because the Irish was
22:09
Speaker 4: talking to them and the Irish was the lower notes
22:11
Speaker 4: confirmed this. They changed the way they were doing business.
22:15
Speaker 4: Then they started taking money in, some of it directly
22:18
Speaker 4: through their personal account, some of it still through shell companies,
22:21
Speaker 4: but they were calling them loans. And the reason you
22:23
Speaker 4: do this is twofold number one. You don't report a
22:27
Speaker 4: loan on your taxes. So theoretically, if you got five
22:31
Speaker 4: million dollar wire from China, and you said it was
22:34
Speaker 4: a loan, you didn't have to put that on your
22:36
Speaker 4: taxes and the RS would never know about it.
22:38
Speaker 5: And secondly, and this.
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Speaker 4: Is the most obvious, you don't have to pay taxes
22:43
Speaker 4: on it then if it's a loan.
22:45
Speaker 5: And that's why I always said, we're going to follow
22:48
Speaker 5: the bank records.
22:49
Speaker 4: We're going to go with the bank statements in lieu
22:51
Speaker 4: of the tax returns, because there's nowhere on your tax
22:54
Speaker 4: return does it show you have a loan. There's a
22:57
Speaker 4: place on your tax return to show where you loan interest,
23:01
Speaker 4: mortgage interest, or if you loan someone money, you receive interest,
23:05
Speaker 4: but there's nowhere on your tax returns would it say alone.
23:08
Speaker 4: So if you just got to Biden's tax return, you
23:11
Speaker 4: would never know about fourteen million dollars that we found
23:15
Speaker 4: because they didn't report it to the RS.
23:18
Speaker 5: They called it loan.
23:19
Speaker 3: So fourteen million was the amount of loans you found so.
23:21
Speaker 5: Far, Yes, for Jim and Hunter Biden.
23:25
Speaker 3: And look, just to underscore what you said, because it's important.
23:29
Speaker 3: By calling it a loan, Number one, you don't have
23:31
Speaker 3: to report it to the IRS. Number two, you don't
23:33
Speaker 3: have to pay taxes to the IRS. But but of
23:37
Speaker 3: course it's got to be a real loan. It can't
23:38
Speaker 3: be just fraud. And all right, I've gotten loans over
23:44
Speaker 3: the course of my life. I've got a mortgage on
23:46
Speaker 3: my house. Now, the mortgage on my house, the collateral
23:49
Speaker 3: is my house. I've gotten car notes. I borrow money
23:53
Speaker 3: to buy a car. The collateral on the car note
23:55
Speaker 3: is the car. If I don't pay the payments, they
23:58
Speaker 3: take the car back. Is there any indication that Hunter
24:03
Speaker 3: or or Jim Biden had any collateral fourteen million dollars
24:07
Speaker 3: of loans? Did they own fourteen million dollars of collateral
24:11
Speaker 3: that that would serve as the basis for those loans?
24:15
Speaker 4: Well, and I understand loans. Thank god, there's no loan documentation.
24:19
Speaker 4: We've asked for loan documentation. They won't produce loan documentation.
24:23
Speaker 4: It doesn't appear they had anywhere near fourteen million dollars
24:27
Speaker 4: in assets.
24:27
Speaker 5: So if you get fourteen million.
24:29
Speaker 4: Dollars in loans, you really need to have about eighteen
24:32
Speaker 4: or nineteen million dollars in assets, because that's the way
24:35
Speaker 4: that the banking rules are. You've got to have more
24:39
Speaker 4: than enough or you would be underwater. So but here's
24:42
Speaker 4: the most concerning thing. Going through their bank records, they've
24:45
Speaker 4: received all this money that they call loans.
24:48
Speaker 5: There are hardly any loan.
24:51
Speaker 4: Repayments, any principal payments, and no interest payments.
24:55
Speaker 3: All right, so this goes back to twenty eighteen principal payment.
24:58
Speaker 3: Twenty eighteen, they start getting loans. They get fourteen million
25:01
Speaker 3: dollars of loans. You're saying from twenty eighteen to twenty
25:04
Speaker 3: twenty three, that's five years. There are very very few
25:08
Speaker 3: loan repayments at all, either principal or interest. In other words,
25:12
Speaker 3: this is some sort of magic loan that you don't
25:14
Speaker 3: need collateral for, you don't have to pay back, and
25:17
Speaker 3: it sure is helpful if you want to, say, buy
25:19
Speaker 3: a lot of crack and prostitutes, if you don't have
25:23
Speaker 3: to pay the loan back. Is that? Am I being
25:26
Speaker 3: fair and characterizing that?
25:28
Speaker 5: That's exactly right?
25:29
Speaker 4: It looked like one loan for half a million dollars
25:32
Speaker 4: to one of the bidens. They may have paid one
25:35
Speaker 4: hundred and ten thousand dollars back with no interest. The
25:38
Speaker 4: rest of the fourteen million dollars we can't find where
25:40
Speaker 4: they've made a single payment and not a kinny.
25:43
Speaker 3: Of interest But by the way, do they dispute this.
25:47
Speaker 3: Does Hunter claim no, no, I pay that back? Does
25:50
Speaker 3: Jim Biden claim no, no, I pay that back? Or do
25:52
Speaker 3: they dispute what you're saying?
25:54
Speaker 4: Well, we we're going to bring them in. You know,
25:56
Speaker 4: that's one reason we wanted to pose them. But you know,
25:59
Speaker 4: you can look at the records and there's no there's
26:03
Speaker 4: no payments back.
26:05
Speaker 1: Best case scenario, how much of the millions in loans
26:08
Speaker 1: eighteen million do you think they paid back?
26:10
Speaker 2: If you're being generous, fourteen million, fourteen.
26:13
Speaker 5: Million, I mean, one hundred and ten thousand.
26:16
Speaker 3: Wow, it's you know, good to be a Biden.
26:21
Speaker 4: So and look, at what point does the loan become income?
26:25
Speaker 5: You know, I don't know, that's a question.
26:27
Speaker 3: What is the low Look, if the intent is to
26:30
Speaker 3: defraud the IRS? If if it is a fraudulent vehicle,
26:33
Speaker 3: the IRS can bring it for tax fraud. You can't
26:35
Speaker 3: characterize something as a loan that is not in fact
26:38
Speaker 3: a loan that doesn't intend to be paid back. And
26:41
Speaker 3: I mean that on the face of it. I got
26:44
Speaker 3: to tell you I'd be ready to prosecute right now.
26:46
Speaker 3: Of course, you know, I don't work at the Biden
26:48
Speaker 3: Justice Department. And so my marching orders aren't protect the
26:51
Speaker 3: big guy, and the statute of limitations is not far
26:56
Speaker 3: from running on these too. They've already left the statute
26:58
Speaker 3: of limitations run on what Hunter did with China back
27:02
Speaker 3: in seventeen. And the clock is ticking now. Now we
27:06
Speaker 3: started with with your telling us your investigators are going
27:09
Speaker 3: to talk with AmeriCorps Health Company about the six hundred
27:12
Speaker 3: thousand dollars that was paid to Jim Biden. And you
27:15
Speaker 3: said two hundred thousand went straight to Joe Biden. Did
27:19
Speaker 3: that come from AmeriCorps or did that come from AmeriCorps
27:21
Speaker 3: to Jim and then Jim to Joe.
27:23
Speaker 2: What was the path of the money.
27:25
Speaker 5: Americ Corps to Jim, and Jim to Joe.
27:28
Speaker 2: So the big guys getting tot day.
27:30
Speaker 5: The same day, the same day.
27:32
Speaker 4: So in Jim Biden's bank account, the day he deposited
27:37
Speaker 4: that two hundred thousand dollars check, I think he had
27:39
Speaker 4: like four thousand dollars ballons, So he went from four
27:42
Speaker 4: thousand to two hundred and four thousand. Then he writes
27:45
Speaker 4: a check for two hundred thousand to Joe Biden. So
27:47
Speaker 4: he goes back down to four thousand. That wasn't real
27:50
Speaker 4: hard to trace. I would challenge anyone to debate me
27:55
Speaker 4: on tracing that check.
27:58
Speaker 2: I have one other question on this money in general.
28:00
Speaker 1: We talk about the loan payments, but can we talk
28:04
Speaker 1: about the total sub of money that was coming into
28:07
Speaker 1: the the Biden affiliated businesses. There were much bigger business
28:12
Speaker 1: deals that were done, and how hard is it to trace?
28:14
Speaker 2: Me They're not businesses.
28:15
Speaker 3: Call them shell corporate show corporate businesses do something. Yeah,
28:19
Speaker 3: these are just bank accounts to park.
28:21
Speaker 4: Money, right, and a lot of these shelves had multiple
28:24
Speaker 4: bank accounts. That's what's taken so long to get the
28:28
Speaker 4: bank records in.
28:29
Speaker 5: We find more bank accounts.
28:30
Speaker 4: I mean, we're always finding more bank accounts and more accounts.
28:34
Speaker 4: But you know, we've identified twenty four million dollars that
28:39
Speaker 4: we don't think they can explain what they did.
28:42
Speaker 5: There's more.
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