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- 0:00Speaker 1: Hi.
- 0:00Speaker 2: I am Rashan McDonald, a host of weekly Money Making
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- 0:23Speaker 2: to me. Now let's get this show started. Welcome to
- 0:27Speaker 2: Money Making Conversations Masterclass. As you know, I'm the host,
- 0:29Speaker 2: I'm gonna show y'all a quote a friend of mine
- 0:33Speaker 2: gave me. I said when I went and visited his
- 0:37Speaker 2: conference recently. This quote moved me because I was just
- 0:42Speaker 2: speaking from the heart. When I was speaking to his conference.
- 0:46Speaker 2: He said, Rashan, you said this, and they moved a
- 0:48Speaker 2: lot of people when you said it. If you don't
- 0:50Speaker 2: start dreaming about what you want today, you won't get
- 0:54Speaker 2: it tomorrow.
- 0:56Speaker 1: Wow.
- 0:57Speaker 2: If you don't start dreaming about what you want today,
- 1:00Speaker 2: I won't get it tomorrow. Basically, what I'm saying is
- 1:02Speaker 2: that they're twenty four hours of the day. Learn to
- 1:04Speaker 2: take advantage of each hour. Basically, what I'm saying is
- 1:07Speaker 2: that when you go to bed and have a plan
- 1:10Speaker 2: as to why you should wake up, this snooze button
- 1:13Speaker 2: is a snooze button is not your friend, it's your enemy.
- 1:16Speaker 2: You can't be a person who says I'm not a
- 1:19Speaker 2: morning person when the stock market closes it three, So
- 1:23Speaker 2: that means that if you don't start early trying to
- 1:26Speaker 2: plan on making money, then guess what you're gonna miss
- 1:29Speaker 2: out on money. So you have to work hard, ladies
- 1:32Speaker 2: and gentlemen to be a winner. And I guess I
- 1:34Speaker 2: bring on my show they educate me. I'm just a storyteller.
- 1:38Speaker 2: My next guest is a person that I wanted to
- 1:41Speaker 2: bring on a show because she is changing the game.
- 1:44Speaker 2: She's from the University of South Carolina. I gotta bring
- 1:47Speaker 2: that because you know, you know, they doing it out
- 1:50Speaker 2: there in the women's basketball world. You know, but they
- 1:54Speaker 2: didn't win this year. A guess what they'll be back.
- 1:57Speaker 2: My next is an award winning strategy as an advocate
- 1:59Speaker 2: who founded When with Black Women that's WWBW. It's the
- 2:04Speaker 2: collective of intergenerational intersectional of more than two hundred thousand
- 2:10Speaker 2: black women leaders from across the nation. That's two hundred
- 2:13Speaker 2: thousand members and growing. She works with corporations, nonprofits, technology
- 2:19Speaker 2: and government organizations by helping the bridge the gap between Washington,
- 2:24Speaker 2: d C. And Silicon Valid. We got a lot to
- 2:26Speaker 2: talk about. Please work with the money making. Please work
- 2:29Speaker 2: with the money making Conversation Master Class. Joe taka Edie,
- 2:33Speaker 2: how you dog? You taker? Did I get the name right? I?
- 2:36Speaker 1: You did? You did? My brother, It's so great to
- 2:39Speaker 1: be with you.
- 2:39Speaker 2: You know, Teylorbody, the name is spelled j O T
- 2:43Speaker 2: A K E e A D D wise, so you know.
- 2:48Speaker 1: Is a person.
- 2:48Speaker 2: You have to really dance with that name a little
- 2:51Speaker 2: bit to make sure you got it right. So I
- 2:53Speaker 2: want to give you much respect. Then, first of all,
- 2:55Speaker 2: welcome to coming on Money Making Conversation master Class. And
- 2:58Speaker 2: the reason I brought up your or the school University
- 3:01Speaker 2: of South Carolina is that you are student body president.
- 3:06Speaker 1: I was. I was the first black woman student by president.
- 3:11Speaker 2: And now I went to University of Houston, which is
- 3:13Speaker 2: in Houston, Texas. I was a student and vice president,
- 3:17Speaker 2: you know. And so but I know, and the guy
- 3:21Speaker 2: asked me to run with him. But to accomplish that task,
- 3:25Speaker 2: Let's talk about you as a person. You know, because
- 3:29Speaker 2: obviously your personality resonates and you have a lot of
- 3:32Speaker 2: confidence to be in a college, to have that type
- 3:35Speaker 2: of confidence, to feel that you could lead a school
- 3:39Speaker 2: in the South University of South Carolina and feel that
- 3:42Speaker 2: you can be a student vice president who injected this
- 3:46Speaker 2: this excitement, this confidence in you.
- 3:50Speaker 1: You know, I, when I think about you, ask who
- 3:53Speaker 1: I am? And I recently lost my mother. Today actually
- 3:58Speaker 1: marks four month anniversary three of her burial. And you know,
- 4:02Speaker 1: when you lose a parent, especially your mother, it forces
- 4:06Speaker 1: you to rethink every aspect of who you are, your life,
- 4:09Speaker 1: every decision you ever made, what path you're on. And
- 4:13Speaker 1: I've been doing a lot of that over the last
- 4:15Speaker 1: four months. And so to ask me that question, I think,
- 4:19Speaker 1: particularly on this day, a day that I've been thinking about,
- 4:21Speaker 1: that I really appreciate because at first, I am a
- 4:26Speaker 1: I am Leonora Abraham Edy and im and Edie's daughter.
- 4:31Speaker 1: I am a black woman that grew up on a
- 4:35Speaker 1: dirt road in a very small town in South Carolina,
- 4:38Speaker 1: And a lot of who I am really comes from
- 4:42Speaker 1: how I grew up. It really comes from the people
- 4:46Speaker 1: that poured into me, mostly people who didn't have a lot,
- 4:52Speaker 1: but they had a lot of love, They had a
- 4:54Speaker 1: lot of a vision for young people like me in
- 4:57Speaker 1: the community. And so my life growing up, and you
- 5:02Speaker 1: know when you ask like, how would you think that
- 5:05Speaker 1: you would go on to University South Carolina and run
- 5:07Speaker 1: for student body president. You know, USC only became integrated
- 5:12Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty three. And it was really because I
- 5:16Speaker 1: grew up around people who told me that I could
- 5:18Speaker 1: do and be anything I wanted to be, and they
- 5:21Speaker 1: cheered me on whether I was doing that Easter speed
- 5:25Speaker 1: we all know about those Eastern speeches growing up, whether
- 5:28Speaker 1: or not I was, you know, in a local oratorical contest.
- 5:33Speaker 1: They made me believe that when I was getting up there,
- 5:36Speaker 1: that I was standing before the un so that when
- 5:38Speaker 1: I fast forward some twenty something years later, when I
- 5:41Speaker 1: am speaking before the un while I may have just
- 5:44Speaker 1: a little bit of nervousness, I don't have fear. And
- 5:48Speaker 1: that's really who and what has inspired me and continues
- 5:53Speaker 1: to inspire me. It started with my parents and my
- 5:55Speaker 1: family and really a strong community of people who took
- 6:00Speaker 1: very little and poured into young people to really try
- 6:04Speaker 1: to grow and help those young people see things that
- 6:08Speaker 1: they only wish that they could see in their life.
- 6:11Speaker 2: Wow, let me ask you this to take them. You know,
- 6:16Speaker 2: when with Black Women, like I said earlier, is a collective, intergenerational,
- 6:21Speaker 2: intersectional or more than two hundred thousand members these are
- 6:25Speaker 2: black women? Why did you create that organization and basically
- 6:29Speaker 2: give us a global perspectives of its purpose?
- 6:34Speaker 1: So when with Black Women started, a lot of people
- 6:38Speaker 1: are more familiar with the Historic Call where there were
- 6:42Speaker 1: forty four thousand people on zoom and I think it's
- 6:44Speaker 1: probably another one hundred thousand people watching that zoom because
- 6:47Speaker 1: they couldn't get on the zoom. But we had actually
- 6:50Speaker 1: started in twenty twenty, and it was around the time
- 6:54Speaker 1: when we were experiencing the presidential election and there was
- 7:02Speaker 1: a big debate and conversation on who was going to
- 7:06Speaker 1: be the next vice president and then Vice President Joe
- 7:10Speaker 1: Biden had made a commitment that he was going to
- 7:12Speaker 1: select a woman, and as a part of that conversation,
- 7:15Speaker 1: several black women, many of them who were people that
- 7:18Speaker 1: I knew former colleagues and friends, were named as potential
- 7:22Speaker 1: vice presidential running mates. And as we always see, there
- 7:27Speaker 1: was this following of ad hominal, racist, sexist attacks against
- 7:32Speaker 1: every last black woman, not on her merit, not on
- 7:35Speaker 1: her policies, but just on her ambition. And I remember
- 7:39Speaker 1: just being outraged. And it was during the pandemic and
- 7:42Speaker 1: I was at home in South Carolina, and I reached
- 7:46Speaker 1: out to a dear friend, Mignon More, and I said, Mignon,
- 7:50Speaker 1: what are we going to do? What are you going
- 7:52Speaker 1: to do? Meaning like, what is your generation, you know,
- 7:54Speaker 1: the anti political, anti generation is going to do? And
- 7:57Speaker 1: I'll never forget. She said, well, what are you going
- 7:59Speaker 1: to do? And I was very convicted by that, you know,
- 8:02Speaker 1: And what she meant was not necessarily what was huge
- 8:05Speaker 1: or take is going to do, but what is your
- 8:06Speaker 1: generation going to do in this moment? And I put
- 8:11Speaker 1: the phone down, and I think it was maybe thirty
- 8:13Speaker 1: minutes later, I picked up my phone and I wrote
- 8:18Speaker 1: an email on my phone and sent it about sixty
- 8:20Speaker 1: five friends and it ranged from everyone from you know,
- 8:24Speaker 1: my good friend Angela Rai and Tamika Mallory to Donna
- 8:29Speaker 1: Brazil and Yolanda Carroway and so many others, and just
- 8:34Speaker 1: put an all call and said we need to come
- 8:36Speaker 1: together as black women in this moment and say not
- 8:39Speaker 1: on our watch. And that night, ninety women got on
- 8:42Speaker 1: a call and we decided to pind an open letter.
- 8:45Speaker 1: Forty eight hours later, we had more than two thousand
- 8:48Speaker 1: black women from across the country signed this open letter,
- 8:51Speaker 1: and then from there we kept fighting and growing and
- 8:55Speaker 1: today When with Black Women has grown to where it
- 8:57Speaker 1: has where it is today, and we focus on three goals.
- 9:02Speaker 1: One making sure we continue to speak out against racism
- 9:06Speaker 1: and sexism against black women. Two, working in our individual
- 9:09Speaker 1: capacities to elect black women up and down the ballot
- 9:12Speaker 1: because representation matters. The third making sure that we uplift
- 9:16Speaker 1: the power and the image of black women. And that's
- 9:20Speaker 1: also about our economic power. So we've done everything from
- 9:23Speaker 1: help support along with other Black women organizations the nomination
- 9:29Speaker 1: and election of the maation's first black woman vice president
- 9:32Speaker 1: or our first US Supreme Court justice, but also when
- 9:36Speaker 1: we saw the backlash against the fact that the Little
- 9:39Speaker 1: Mermaid was cast as Hallie Bailey, that we needed to
- 9:43Speaker 1: show that our economic power mattered as well, and so
- 9:45Speaker 1: we did one hundred theater buy out the opening weekend
- 9:48Speaker 1: to show that representation matters in our dollarge matter. And
- 9:52Speaker 1: that's been the work of Women with Black Women for
- 9:54Speaker 1: the last now almost five years, and We've continued to
- 9:57Speaker 1: grow and really lead in on the collective power of
- 10:02Speaker 1: black women because I think when we're connected, there's nothing
- 10:05Speaker 1: that could stop us. And I think America wins when
- 10:07Speaker 1: black women are winning.
- 10:09Speaker 2: You can talk. You know that you can talk. You
- 10:12Speaker 2: can talk. I was trying to dance my way in
- 10:14Speaker 2: and say to us, and no, she got it. She
- 10:17Speaker 2: got she knows how to connect the word after another
- 10:19Speaker 2: word after another word. You know when you say about
- 10:22Speaker 2: the perception of black women, and I have six sisters,
- 10:27Speaker 2: and I have a daughter, and that matters to me.
- 10:30Speaker 2: My financial planner, she's a female and she's an African American.
- 10:36Speaker 2: What do you think the perception of America's version of
- 10:40Speaker 2: what a black woman is? Since you are at the forefront,
- 10:42Speaker 2: you have an organization called Women with Black Women, so
- 10:45Speaker 2: it means that you are only in a positive light
- 10:48Speaker 2: of what black women are capable of, capable of accomplishing.
- 10:52Speaker 2: What do you think the perception of black women is
- 10:55Speaker 2: in America today?
- 10:58Speaker 1: What was sean, It's what we know the reality of
- 11:01Speaker 1: black women. But to your question, what is the perception?
- 11:05Speaker 1: And sadly, the perception of black women is that we're
- 11:09Speaker 1: not fill in the blank. Enough, we're not smart enough.
- 11:13Speaker 1: We're not you know, we aren't capable of leading, we
- 11:19Speaker 1: aren't capable of being elected. That we can't nor do
- 11:24Speaker 1: we have the ability to manage financial institutions and or
- 11:31Speaker 1: large corporations. All of these negative stereotypes that get cast
- 11:35Speaker 1: upon on black women, and largely it's in the media.
- 11:39Speaker 1: It's reinforced over and over again. But all of those
- 11:43Speaker 1: perceptions are far from the reality. When you look at
- 11:46Speaker 1: black women, we're the most educated demographic in this country.
- 11:50Speaker 1: We start businesses at fast rates that any other demographic
- 11:53Speaker 1: in this country, very highly successful. Black women are leading
- 12:00Speaker 1: across this country. When you look at major cities right now,
- 12:04Speaker 1: across the country country, whether it's Saint Louis, whether it's
- 12:07Speaker 1: Los Angeles, Washington, d C, Philadelphia, New Orleans, all led
- 12:12Speaker 1: by Black women. And we continue to see black women thriving,
- 12:17Speaker 1: whether it's in sports and entertainment. You mentioned my beloved
- 12:20Speaker 1: University of South Carolina. When you look at Don Staley,
- 12:24Speaker 1: she's the highest paid uh female coach that is in
- 12:29Speaker 1: college basketball and a capable, amazing leader. But the perception
- 12:37Speaker 1: that even someone like a Don Staley gets is that
- 12:39Speaker 1: you know, she's too much when she's absolutely enough and
- 12:44Speaker 1: and and more than qualified for the work that she does.
- 12:48Speaker 1: And so I think that it's a continuous struggle for
- 12:52Speaker 1: black women too, sadly, to have to root out the
- 12:59Speaker 1: miss and information about who we are, and also the
- 13:04Speaker 1: work that we have to do with ourselves to cast
- 13:06Speaker 1: out the self doubt that is built in us from
- 13:08Speaker 1: the time that we're born.
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- 13:36Speaker 2: Now let me ask you this because stereotypes carry us
- 13:39Speaker 2: a lot, you know, and we talked off air. I
- 13:42Speaker 2: would like to talk to my guests prior to a
- 13:43Speaker 2: phone call. We talked about Silicon Valley, which you know,
- 13:46Speaker 2: in technology, and so when you talking about the perception
- 13:49Speaker 2: of African American women, the perception of black people when
- 13:52Speaker 2: it comes to technology is My degree is in mathematics
- 13:55Speaker 2: and my miners in sociology. So I know whenever I
- 13:59Speaker 2: tell us about it I got math degree, I get
- 14:00Speaker 2: two things. I get a stare and I get really,
- 14:04Speaker 2: I get that, I get a stare and I get
- 14:06Speaker 2: to work. Really when I tell people I have a
- 14:07Speaker 2: degree in mathematics, I get that sometime too, because people
- 14:14Speaker 2: will stereotype you and tell you, Okay, you're different. That's
- 14:19Speaker 2: not normal. And we talked about Silicon Valley. You play
- 14:26Speaker 2: a major role, like we said, from Washington to Wall
- 14:29Speaker 2: Street to Silicon Valley, talk about how you are trying
- 14:33Speaker 2: to bridge that gap of opportunity for African American men
- 14:37Speaker 2: and women in Silicon Valley.
- 14:41Speaker 1: First of all, I think it's absolutely amazing that you
- 14:43Speaker 1: have a mathematics degree. And I say, as you said,
- 14:46Speaker 1: you know, the perception is that black men and black
- 14:50Speaker 1: people that we can't excel in STEM and that's the
- 14:55Speaker 1: furthest thing from the truth. We just don't have opportunity.
- 14:58Speaker 1: I believe that talent is the street equally, but opportunity
- 15:01Speaker 1: is not. And I think that is the reality when
- 15:04Speaker 1: we think about Silicon Valley and what really drove me
- 15:08Speaker 1: to dive deeper into Silicon Valley. I mean, my story
- 15:12Speaker 1: is unique in that I had spent years in politics
- 15:15Speaker 1: and advocacy had been at the NAACP, and I was
- 15:20Speaker 1: recruited in the Silicon Valley. So this was around twenty thirteen,
- 15:25Speaker 1: So this was at a time where people kind of
- 15:28Speaker 1: was talked about Silicon Valley but not really. But there
- 15:31Speaker 1: had been a large number of black folks that had
- 15:33Speaker 1: been existing in Silicon Valley for many, many years, that
- 15:38Speaker 1: had been in the valley been very successful, but you
- 15:43Speaker 1: hadn't really heard about it, you know, folks like Eric
- 15:45Speaker 1: Moore who had been very successful investors. And so when
- 15:50Speaker 1: I went into Silicon Valley though, there had not been
- 15:55Speaker 1: a lot of people like me that had went in,
- 15:58Speaker 1: so folks that had worked in policy or politics or
- 16:01Speaker 1: advocacy that went into the industry. And I remember, quite
- 16:05Speaker 1: honestly having imposter syndrome. Despite the fact that I had
- 16:10Speaker 1: helped win a US Supreme Court case, or I had
- 16:12Speaker 1: lobbied before the un that I had been a senior
- 16:17Speaker 1: advisor to the president of the NAACP, I just did
- 16:19Speaker 1: not see myself in that industry because there was not
- 16:24Speaker 1: a large reflection of black women or people who did
- 16:27Speaker 1: not have a traditional coding background in Silicon Valley. And
- 16:32Speaker 1: so I remembered being very reluctant to take the job.
- 16:37Speaker 1: I remember sitting on the offer for eight months and
- 16:40Speaker 1: the company it really wanted me, and they said, we'll
- 16:42Speaker 1: hold this offer for eight months and when and if
- 16:45Speaker 1: you're ready, you know, we want you to be here.
- 16:48Speaker 1: And this is a company with a financial technology company.
- 16:51Speaker 1: I would have been the first black employee in that company.
- 16:55Speaker 1: I was going in on the executive team. And it
- 16:57Speaker 1: was a company that had been marketing very heavily a
- 17:02Speaker 1: product that heavily relied on adoption from consumers from you know,
- 17:09Speaker 1: black and brown communities, but yet had not any black employees.
- 17:13Speaker 1: And so when I finally took the job and I
- 17:16Speaker 1: went into the industry, what I realized is that my
- 17:18Speaker 1: hesitancy was around this this this preconceived notion that there
- 17:24Speaker 1: wasn't a place for me. But once I got into industry,
- 17:27Speaker 1: what I realized is that not only was there a
- 17:30Speaker 1: place for me, there was a need for me, and
- 17:32Speaker 1: people liked me. And so it became very much a
- 17:35Speaker 1: mission for me to really demystify Silicon Valley for others
- 17:42Speaker 1: because I was like, I'm the type of person my
- 17:45Speaker 1: good friend Donna Brazil often says, is when we walked
- 17:48Speaker 1: through doors. It's important for us to walk through a
- 17:52Speaker 1: door and keep it open and if we can remove
- 17:54Speaker 1: the hinges so the door.
- 17:55Speaker 2: Never to take a eat it or it is an
- 18:00Speaker 2: edi eddie. Edie is edie correct? It got to take
- 18:04Speaker 2: an edie e A d d y to take an
- 18:07Speaker 2: ed Let me recap. Let everybody know who I'm talking to. Okay,
- 18:12Speaker 2: I'm talking to an award winning strategist and advocate, very
- 18:15Speaker 2: smooth talking, very confident. I just love the way you
- 18:18Speaker 2: talked to take a you know, because it was something
- 18:21Speaker 2: interesting when you was talking about when I got my
- 18:25Speaker 2: math degree. You know, as you go through college, you know,
- 18:27Speaker 2: you start out with a bunch of people, and as
- 18:29Speaker 2: you go up, that's I call it the pyramid effect
- 18:33Speaker 2: because it's less and less people as you get to
- 18:35Speaker 2: that point of graduation. I can remember I was in
- 18:38Speaker 2: the class. It wasn't a black person in the class
- 18:40Speaker 2: with me, So that means that I really had enough.
- 18:45Speaker 2: I couldn't relate. I couldn't go to anybody, couldn't go
- 18:47Speaker 2: to my friends, I couldn't go to anybody. So I
- 18:50Speaker 2: understood what you were worried about. It's like who do
- 18:54Speaker 2: you talk to? It's called That's why organizations like your
- 18:57Speaker 2: organization is very powerful. That's why our mentorship is very powerful.
- 19:01Speaker 2: Because my father was a truck driver. My mom, you know,
- 19:05Speaker 2: she graduated from high school, so she could motivate me,
- 19:08Speaker 2: but she couldn't share any experiences with me that could
- 19:11Speaker 2: enable me to understand that Rushan, you belong. You belong
- 19:15Speaker 2: and IBM Rushan, you belong in anything you've done. Look
- 19:17Speaker 2: at your accomplishing in life, and I think that when
- 19:20Speaker 2: I hear you talk, that story you just told reminds
- 19:23Speaker 2: me of why it's important that we share your story
- 19:27Speaker 2: and for people to hear your story so young minds
- 19:30Speaker 2: and young people can understand when that opportunity is presented
- 19:33Speaker 2: to them, don't hesitate, it's yours because you've earned it.
- 19:37Speaker 2: Am I correct when I say that?
- 19:38Speaker 1: To take her? You're absolutely correct in that because society
- 19:44Speaker 1: will try to tell us that we're not enough, that
- 19:47Speaker 1: we don't belong, and we will often like in my
- 19:52Speaker 1: own situation, I was overqualified. Yes you were to be
- 19:56Speaker 1: in Silicon Valley, but I was waiting for this magical notion,
- 20:02Speaker 1: for this idea of what I was supposed to be.
- 20:05Speaker 1: When I was enough with just who I was, and
- 20:07Speaker 1: I think that anybody, particularly a young person that's listening
- 20:11Speaker 1: to this. I grew up on a dirt road in
- 20:15Speaker 1: a town with fourteen hundred people, and I found my
- 20:20Speaker 1: way to the C suite in Silicon Valley at some
- 20:24Speaker 1: of the most successful companies, companies that now have multi
- 20:29Speaker 1: billion dollar valuations. And if I would have just listened
- 20:34Speaker 1: to society, or I would have listened to that high
- 20:37Speaker 1: school guidance council teacher who tried to convince me that
- 20:41Speaker 1: I shouldn't go to the University of South Carolina, where
- 20:44Speaker 1: I ended up becoming the first black woman Sudermighty president,
- 20:48Speaker 1: graduating and going on to do all the things that
- 20:52Speaker 1: I did in my career, I wouldn't be here today.
- 20:55Speaker 1: And I think we have to note that there are
- 20:59Speaker 1: people who are going to try to distract us. But
- 21:02Speaker 1: what we have to recognize and understand is that who
- 21:04Speaker 1: we are and whom we are, and if we can
- 21:06Speaker 1: always remember that and have that purpose and that north star,
- 21:10Speaker 1: there's nothing that can stop us. And I think that's
- 21:13Speaker 1: what's so important in this day and age, particularly when
- 21:18Speaker 1: there are so many detractors, particularly on social media and
- 21:24Speaker 1: other places that lead us to believe that we're not
- 21:26Speaker 1: enough when we are exactly who we are, and we
- 21:29Speaker 1: are more than enough in most cases.
- 21:30Speaker 2: You know what I hear you talk, it's really a
- 21:33Speaker 2: profound You had a question here that says leadership is
- 21:36Speaker 2: it about positions? About motion? Sometimes leadership looks like being
- 21:40Speaker 2: out front of the time, it looks like building space
- 21:43Speaker 2: for others to shine. Either way, it's movement, it's momentum,
- 21:48Speaker 2: it's power. Expound on that for us, Please no.
- 21:52Speaker 1: I think it's a very powerful notion that I think.
- 21:57Speaker 1: Positional leadership is often type of leadership that society focuses on.
- 22:04Speaker 1: But true leadership is your ability to tap into someone
- 22:08Speaker 1: their best self, their sense of unlocking the greatness in themselves,
- 22:14Speaker 1: your ability for other people to see their power, and
- 22:17Speaker 1: for you to really create a platform for that power
- 22:21Speaker 1: to be forced multiplied. I think also that leadership continuously
- 22:28Speaker 1: is motion. It's evolution. I wake up. One of the
- 22:31Speaker 1: things that I say every morning when I wake up
- 22:35Speaker 1: and I tell myself, I said, jo taking, you have
- 22:37Speaker 1: a choice. You're either going to evolve or repeat. Evolve
- 22:42Speaker 1: or repeat, and not every day is it that I
- 22:46Speaker 1: hit that revolve that evolved button. Some days I'm going
- 22:49Speaker 1: to repeat, and we all are human. We're all human.
- 22:53Speaker 1: But my prayer is that I evolve more than I repeat.
- 22:57Speaker 1: And if I can evolve more than I can than
- 22:59Speaker 1: I repeat, that I'm always going to be moving forward.
- 23:03Speaker 2: Wow. You know when you how can we get in
- 23:05Speaker 2: touch with you? I know the organization is UH is
- 23:09Speaker 2: out there, but other ways to reach out to your websites.
- 23:13Speaker 1: Absolutely, you can always go to www. Dot win with
- 23:17Speaker 1: Black Women dot org. I'm also on all socials at
- 23:21Speaker 1: show taka E j O t A k A. I'm producer.
- 23:26Speaker 2: That's unusual. I'm pretty sure it's not a bunch of
- 23:29Speaker 2: joe take us out there. That's another story about how
- 23:33Speaker 2: you got that name. Because I need to meet those parents.
- 23:36Speaker 2: You know, unfortunately your mom has passed away. But when
- 23:39Speaker 2: you when you look at the world that we live in,
- 23:42Speaker 2: to take a I have to say, you have a
- 23:46Speaker 2: personality that that is really very motivating. You grab a person,
- 23:51Speaker 2: you want to hear more from you, you want to
- 23:54Speaker 2: find out. Can I just tag along because something special
- 23:58Speaker 2: is going to happen with you and for you.
- 24:01Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure.
- 24:01Speaker 2: You've heard that a lot, but I just wanted to
- 24:03Speaker 2: remind you that sometimes you need to be reminded how
- 24:06Speaker 2: great you are, even though I'm pretty sure you're aware
- 24:09Speaker 2: of your success. But I have a lot of people
- 24:12Speaker 2: I interview on this show, and you're definitely one of
- 24:15Speaker 2: these motivators, natural motivators that when you wake up, yeah,
- 24:21Speaker 2: you inspired to live a better life for yourself, but
- 24:25Speaker 2: you know that everything you do in your life will
- 24:28Speaker 2: positively impact other people. That's my takeaway from this interview.
- 24:33Speaker 2: And I rarely have said this on this show, but you,
- 24:36Speaker 2: my friend, are very very special.
- 24:40Speaker 1: Thank you, my brother. I truly appreciate that those words
- 24:44Speaker 1: they mean a lot to me, particularly on this day,
- 24:47Speaker 1: on this day, they mean a lot. They mean a
- 24:51Speaker 1: lot of it, and I just hope that I can
- 24:52Speaker 1: just live my life in a way that you know,
- 24:56Speaker 1: it's an old cliche saying I grew up in the church,
- 24:59Speaker 1: but if I can just help somebody along the way,
- 25:01Speaker 1: that my living will not ever be in vain. I
- 25:04Speaker 1: appreciate your words.
- 25:05Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you for coming on Money Making Conversation
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