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Shanti Das Full Interview · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: mental health. Before she found it Silence the Shame, she
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Speaker 1: the money making conversations. The founder of Silence the Shame
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Speaker 1: Shanty does hello, Sean. How you know miss Doss dos
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Speaker 1: Effects as you said, dos Effects. Well you got that
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Speaker 1: little cool name though you know people are a little
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Speaker 1: rapper name, little rapper name I have. They're wrapping up
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Speaker 1: the game and mental health and mental health advocate. You know,
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Speaker 1: first of all, thank you for coming on the show.
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Speaker 1: And now when this when this interview was brought to
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Speaker 1: me um because I felt it was important that I
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Speaker 1: made time and got it into my schedule because I
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Speaker 1: had to move some things around. Because within the black community,
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Speaker 1: though the community of color, you know, we're always the
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Speaker 1: last to admit were we last admit. That's why we
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Speaker 1: always pop up on HIV. We're always popped up on poverty.
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Speaker 1: We're always right now with the pandemic. We're losing lives
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Speaker 1: faster and the color community than anyway because we when
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Speaker 1: when the gay community, we want to acknowledge that. And
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Speaker 1: so especially when you're talking about mental health, that's another
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Speaker 1: leg of the information length pipeline that we want to
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Speaker 1: like ignore that it's important that we accept and get
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Speaker 1: it to responsibility of that. Tell us about your journey.
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Speaker 1: This is a long interview, but I want you to
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Speaker 1: start telling us about the journey where you had to
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Speaker 1: open up and and and and about your it's it's depression, right, yes, yes, yes,
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Speaker 1: talk about that. So so Rashan, first of all, thank
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Speaker 1: you for having me on the show. And what you're
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Speaker 1: saying is it's a hundred percent right. Oftentimes in the
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Speaker 1: African American community, with the last one to talk about it,
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Speaker 1: we don't address it. Before I share a little bit
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Speaker 1: about my journey. I'll just tell you a quick statistics.
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Speaker 1: African Americans are more likely to have more serious psychological
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Speaker 1: distress and white adults, and our African American teenagers are
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Speaker 1: more likely to attempt suicide than white teenagers at eight
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Speaker 1: point three percent versus six point two percent. So Rashwan,
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Speaker 1: I grew up, you know, in African American culture. Obviously,
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Speaker 1: my mom's black. My dad was actually Indian, but he
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Speaker 1: took his own life when we were when I was
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Speaker 1: seven months old, and so he left my mom and
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Speaker 1: my two siblings and I we went to counseling. We
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Speaker 1: didn't talk about it as a family. The fast forward.
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Speaker 1: I had this great career in music, but I had
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Speaker 1: all this trauma built up from my childhood that I
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Speaker 1: had never addressed. So when I started dealing with my
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Speaker 1: own high levels of stress and anxiety, it then turned
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Speaker 1: into depression. And I finally went to counseling in my
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Speaker 1: thirties to try to deal with this um But I
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Speaker 1: did not stick with counseling one because I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Working in the music industry, I thought if I was
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Speaker 1: shaping the careers of all this artists, I didn't meet
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Speaker 1: nobody to fix me right, I could do it myself.
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Speaker 1: It was my ego. But but that was wrong, and
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Speaker 1: I wish I would have done counseling UM more consistently
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Speaker 1: back in the day. And so fast forward to uh
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Speaker 1: the year teen, my best friend took her own life
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Speaker 1: and I blamed myself for her suicide. And then in
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Speaker 1: two Rashawn I came really close to taking my own life.
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Speaker 1: I had just kind of gone into a downward spiral.
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Speaker 1: My mother had Alzheimers, I had some health issues, I
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Speaker 1: had some financial struggles I was going through, and it
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Speaker 1: just kind of all came to a head. And that's
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Speaker 1: why I started silence a shame so that I could
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Speaker 1: one get my own help and help other people UM
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Speaker 1: to really focus on their mental health. What exactly is depression?
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Speaker 1: I guess that's the courtion. I need that because that
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Speaker 1: a lot of us to understand if we if we
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Speaker 1: have some of the qualities that we should be aware of.
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Speaker 1: So in terms of some of the symptoms of depression,
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Speaker 1: you know, I like to say, UM that it really
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Speaker 1: depends on your overall behavioral patterns. That's why oftentimes you
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Speaker 1: hear people refer to it as behavioral health as opposed
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Speaker 1: to mental health. Now. Some of the symptoms can be
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Speaker 1: feeling sad or having a depressed mood, loss of interest
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Speaker 1: or pleasure, and activities that you once enjoy, um, changing appetite,
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Speaker 1: weight loss or gain unrelated to dieting where you can't
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Speaker 1: really put your finger on while you're losing so much weight. UM,
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Speaker 1: if you're having too much trouble sleeping at night, if
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Speaker 1: you're feeling worthless or guilty. Because like for me, Rashawn,
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Speaker 1: I felt like, you know, maybe God, we've done with me.
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Speaker 1: You know, maybe you know, everything that I needed to
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Speaker 1: do on this earth was done. So I had prolonged
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Speaker 1: feelings of hopelessness. Um, I didn't really want to hang
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Speaker 1: out with friends anymore. I didn't even want to wake
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Speaker 1: up honestly and open the blinds in the morning. And
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Speaker 1: I also started using, um, you know, alcohol sometimes as
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Speaker 1: a coping mechanism, which we know is a natural depressant,
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Speaker 1: and so some of those social drinks you know, started
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Speaker 1: making me feel even more depressed. And so I just
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Speaker 1: did not have any healthy coping mechanisms. And of course
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Speaker 1: stops of suicide or death is an obvious sign of depression. Well,
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Speaker 1: you know the thing about it, is that. Let's let's
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Speaker 1: talk about your journey, because see sometimes when we just
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Speaker 1: on a mission and our goals or just to get
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Speaker 1: to a certain place. Because you went from an intern
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Speaker 1: to executive VP and including positions that Capital Records, the
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Speaker 1: Face Records, Columbia Records, Sony Urban Music, and Universal Motown.
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Speaker 1: So these are not these are these are these are
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Speaker 1: what they're called top of the food chain opportunities and
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Speaker 1: so and so when you when you're grinding, you can't
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Speaker 1: ignore you can't ignore symptoms because you said, I'm on
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Speaker 1: a mission. Let me just that's not important to me
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Speaker 1: right now? So when did this start being important to
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Speaker 1: you to understand what was going on in your personal life?
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Speaker 1: Because I'm sure these depression are anxiety symptoms as affected
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Speaker 1: your relationship not only personally but business wide as well eventually, right,
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Speaker 1: Oh sure, So I think the first time, Rashaun, that
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Speaker 1: I probably recognized that I might have UM an issue
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Speaker 1: going on personally. Within two thousand one, it was when
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Speaker 1: um Face Records baby Face in l A sold the
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Speaker 1: company UM to b MG, and so l A Read
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Speaker 1: moved to New York to replace Clive Davi. That's an
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Speaker 1: heres the records and so I was in more of
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Speaker 1: a corporate setting. It was a high stressed environment. You
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Speaker 1: know how it is when one regime comes and there's
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Speaker 1: another regime, uncertainty at uncertainty and friction, and everybody's trying
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Speaker 1: to job for their position. So you know, I wasn't
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Speaker 1: trying to run to l A with all my problems
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Speaker 1: and issues. But I didn't have an outlet, and I
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Speaker 1: didn't even recognize that I could have reached out to
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Speaker 1: HR to find you know, UM, any sort of resources
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Speaker 1: UM from a therapy perspective. And so I remember one
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Speaker 1: day I was so frustrated and I was on the
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Speaker 1: phone with my sister and my boyfriend and I said,
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Speaker 1: you know, I can't really take this pressure anymore. I
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Speaker 1: don't know how to handle it. Maybe I should just
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Speaker 1: kill myself. That scared me to death, Rashawn, because you know,
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Speaker 1: I did not have a plan at that time, but
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Speaker 1: the fact that I even uttered those words, and it
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Speaker 1: was something that my dad had actually done, it really
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Speaker 1: terrified me. And my sister was like, well, first of all,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna get through this, even she got down down,
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Speaker 1: We're gonna deal with this. But second of all, you
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Speaker 1: gotta go to therapy that when shortly there after Rashawn
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Speaker 1: I went to therapy and addressed the issue of my
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Speaker 1: father's suicide because I never wanted to even utter those words.
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Speaker 1: So I think that was probably the first time in
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Speaker 1: my early thirties when I started addressing emotional health and
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Speaker 1: wellness in the right way. We're speaking to Shunti doss uh.
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Speaker 1: I would say her name is like a rapper, you know,
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Speaker 1: but she's an advocate of mental health and she's also
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Speaker 1: the founder of Sounds a shame. Now, really, when I
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Speaker 1: look at my life, I've I've always had a pretty
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Speaker 1: intense life, Shanti and so and sometimes it feels like
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Speaker 1: the whole world's on me. I have a have a
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Speaker 1: What has saved me is that on my property in
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Speaker 1: Atlanta have a little lake where I can go down
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Speaker 1: and I can just look at the world. I always
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Speaker 1: told my wife the water. Yeah, the water saves me
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Speaker 1: because just watching those ripples and I can see little
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Speaker 1: minnots and fish and frogs jumping around, it calms me down.
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Speaker 1: And so so it also so that that's an outlet
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Speaker 1: that kind of saves me from just going to the
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Speaker 1: next level. Because, like you said, when people when you
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Speaker 1: reach a certain portion of certain point in your career,
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Speaker 1: especially if your minority, and not many people you can
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Speaker 1: go talk to you, and then there's not many people
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Speaker 1: you want to show flaws or showing weaknesses too. So
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Speaker 1: a lot of times you just keep it all on yourself.
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Speaker 1: And so so you gotta have that outlet. And I'm
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Speaker 1: just letting you know my outlet for me that saved
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Speaker 1: me was that water. It was going down there. I
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Speaker 1: have a rock. I potentially put that rockets, and I
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Speaker 1: just want to put a big rock so I can
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Speaker 1: sit on this rock whatever I sit down there, if
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Speaker 1: I feel like fishing, it just saves me and calls
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Speaker 1: me down. But that's one of the principles of being
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Speaker 1: able to deal with anxiety, being able to deal with
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Speaker 1: depression mechanisms, and and so so I I naturally, I'm
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Speaker 1: not saying I'm a depressed person. I'm not saying that
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Speaker 1: I have anxiety values or symptoms. I'm just saying that
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Speaker 1: we all get to that point where the world can
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Speaker 1: jump on you. Where do you go to escape or
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Speaker 1: cope with it? So that's that's great. I'm glad you
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Speaker 1: brought up water because you know, psychiatrists and Therapists have
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Speaker 1: often talked about how water in the ocean or even
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Speaker 1: a lake can just have a calming effect on your
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Speaker 1: mind because it puts you in a just a really
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Speaker 1: you know, mouth state of mind and kind of helps
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Speaker 1: to recenter yourself for what we like to call those
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Speaker 1: healthy coping mechanisms or forms of self care. There are
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Speaker 1: a lot of different things you can do in terms
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Speaker 1: of self care. For me, it's like, I would like
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Speaker 1: to take a walk in the park. You know, I
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Speaker 1: lost my sister unexpectedly last year, and so this week
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Speaker 1: was her one year anniversary, and so I found myself
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Speaker 1: kind of in a way feeling a little anxious. So
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Speaker 1: I just got out of the house and went and
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Speaker 1: took a you know, one hour walk in the park,
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Speaker 1: and it just made me feel so much better. You know.
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Speaker 1: I like the nature in the in the trees, and
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Speaker 1: the wind was blowing, and it was just a great
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Speaker 1: day for me to be out in nature. Other people
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Speaker 1: like to exercise because it's been proven scientifically that when
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Speaker 1: you get your endorphins going, it actually puts you in
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Speaker 1: a better mood, you feel better about yourself. Also, having
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Speaker 1: you know, a proper diet, because oftentimes there are certain
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Speaker 1: foods that we can eat UM that can weigh down
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Speaker 1: different things. And I tell people like you like the lake, Rashaan,
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Speaker 1: Texa Thon. So we're really excited about the texason UM.
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Speaker 1: It allows the Silence to Shame to raise funds for UM,
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Speaker 1: an increase in our programs, resources and scholarship funds that
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Speaker 1: a portion of the proceeds Rashan to some UH therapists
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Speaker 1: so that they can provide free therapy during the pandemic
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Speaker 1: for some of their clients. And that's been a rubb
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Speaker 1: noticing a lot a lot of more mental health experts
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Speaker 1: have been coming on national platforms, local platforms, because it's
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Speaker 1: a it's a it's a stress that it's not normal
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Speaker 1: for everybody. I know times that and I'm a guy
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Speaker 1: who's go oriented and not sit around the house and
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Speaker 1: go what I'm gonna do. And I've I've had to
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Speaker 1: include I've had to include exercise in my life. I
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Speaker 1: had to include I put more of a routine. I
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Speaker 1: have to develop at home routine to be able to
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Speaker 1: get me through there. Uh, just walking around my yard, uh,
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Speaker 1: listening to music more. These are the things that have
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Speaker 1: like calmed me down. And I think that's what we're
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Speaker 1: talking about, calming your your inner being down, your emotions
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Speaker 1: down so it doesn't go spike. And that's what I've
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Speaker 1: been trying to avoid. It's just usually a natural process.
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Speaker 1: But a lot of people don't don't have these techniques
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Speaker 1: worked out like I've worked out myself. How can they?
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Speaker 1: It is there is there is there a website they
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Speaker 1: can go to that you guys have found. It was
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Speaker 1: talked to us about those those different techniques, so you know,
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Speaker 1: there are a lot of really great resources out there.
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Speaker 1: We um if you go onto silence shame dot com
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Speaker 1: and go under um how to get help or resources.
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Speaker 1: We have organizations that we partner with like NAMI, which
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Speaker 1: the National Alliance on Mental Illness. They have a lot
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Speaker 1: of great resources out there, also psychology, Psychology Today, dot com.
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Speaker 1: I'm also reading an article on hustling com posts and
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Speaker 1: I just google water and the effects of calming, and
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Speaker 1: it says wild water makes us feel calm. You know,
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Speaker 1: scientists have really studied showing that people who live near
18:23
Speaker 1: the ocean or water report feeling less stressed and better health. Um,
18:28
Speaker 1: it's still a mystery, I think to psychologists, but we
18:31
Speaker 1: do know that the water has common effects and so
18:34
Speaker 1: you know, it's a ton of organizations that can offer
18:37
Speaker 1: different wellness resources. So you know, like I said, go
18:40
Speaker 1: onto our website and check it out. Well, I will
18:44
Speaker 1: go on your website because I can never I can
18:46
Speaker 1: always be educated. And like I said, I've just been
18:49
Speaker 1: naturally doing something that And I bought the house that
18:52
Speaker 1: I live in intentionally because it did have water behind
18:55
Speaker 1: the house, and and it was it was moving water,
18:58
Speaker 1: because the water doesn't just stay there. So it really
19:00
Speaker 1: is a lot of little things that naturally translate into
19:03
Speaker 1: calming me down. And when you look at when when
19:05
Speaker 1: you're in a business and I'm an African American male
19:08
Speaker 1: and I'm in a business where you know, deals are
19:10
Speaker 1: big representing talent, and that's what you were in. You
19:13
Speaker 1: were in you know, you know Capitol Records, the Face Records,
19:16
Speaker 1: Columbia Records. You know where an album can get everybody
19:20
Speaker 1: exciting and and the poor sales of an album or
19:23
Speaker 1: talent can leave and calm, or talent can have an attitude,
19:25
Speaker 1: the talent can get sick on the tour. It's so
19:28
Speaker 1: many variables that are not normal to everyday life. You know.
19:32
Speaker 1: The cool thing about being an entrepreneur, That's what we're
19:34
Speaker 1: talking about entrepreneurs on this show is that you just
19:37
Speaker 1: you wake up, but you don't know if a customer's
19:39
Speaker 1: gonna show up. You don't know if the oven that
19:43
Speaker 1: you're gonna be baking it's gonna work. We don't know anything.
19:46
Speaker 1: The circumstances are as laid out, and that's creates stress.
19:50
Speaker 1: Now that stress can lead into anxiety, which can lead
19:54
Speaker 1: into depression. And so right now when you hear me talk,
19:59
Speaker 1: it's doss. You know, I feel like I'm in control.
20:03
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that I'm in control, but i feel
20:05
Speaker 1: like I'm in control. Where does a person like me
20:09
Speaker 1: get out of control or need a need counseling or
20:12
Speaker 1: what are the true signs of a person like me
20:14
Speaker 1: We talked about a little bit earlier, but now that
20:17
Speaker 1: you're hearing me talk a guy who's supposed to have
20:19
Speaker 1: his act together but still me need therapy. So you know, again,
20:25
Speaker 1: I think it varies from person to person. UM. What
20:29
Speaker 1: I will say is, because we all have been quarantining
20:32
Speaker 1: this quarantine and dealing with this pandemic, I think we've
20:35
Speaker 1: seen a heightened level or sense of anxiety. UM. I
20:39
Speaker 1: think when you start feeling like you're you feel like
20:42
Speaker 1: there's some impeding danger, or your panicking, or oftentimes we've
20:46
Speaker 1: seen heart attacks UM the mimics as panic attacks or
20:51
Speaker 1: right versa. UM. So if you're sweating a lot, if
20:54
Speaker 1: you're trembling, if you're feeling tired or weak, or if
20:57
Speaker 1: you're having trouble concentrating and you're constantly worrying, that might
21:01
Speaker 1: be time to actually talk to someone and consider seeing
21:04
Speaker 1: a therapist. What I tell people, you know, therapy isn't
21:07
Speaker 1: just when something is wrong, you know. I like to
21:09
Speaker 1: look at therapy as a wellness tool. I know people
21:11
Speaker 1: that have you know, just like they talked to you know,
21:14
Speaker 1: high high network individuals like yourself or people that work
21:17
Speaker 1: in high pressure job. You know, you have your accountant,
21:19
Speaker 1: you have your lawyer, you have your life. You know,
21:21
Speaker 1: why not why not couple your therapist therapists right and
21:25
Speaker 1: bring them into that, you know, group of individuals that
21:29
Speaker 1: kind of make you flow from from a day to
21:31
Speaker 1: day perspective. It's like, you need to make sure that
21:33
Speaker 1: you're utilizing therapy um when something isn't just always wrong,
21:38
Speaker 1: because it's good to talk to us on one um
21:39
Speaker 1: from an objective perspective, and I tell people, you know,
21:42
Speaker 1: sometimes you might have to. It's like Dayton, you know,
21:45
Speaker 1: you gotta keep trying to find the right therapist and
21:48
Speaker 1: ship for you because I've heard people saying, oh, how
21:50
Speaker 1: was therapy wants It didn't work for me. But that
21:52
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you have to stop, right. That's just like
21:55
Speaker 1: your primary health care position. You get a doctor you
21:57
Speaker 1: don't like, well, you're gonna find another good one because
22:00
Speaker 1: you want to again make sure you have healthy coping
22:02
Speaker 1: mechanisms to get throughout your day. Well. You know, I
22:04
Speaker 1: love the passion in your voice. I love the energy
22:06
Speaker 1: and your voice are reading your bio and you're being
22:09
Speaker 1: recognized globally about your efforts with silence the same, which
22:13
Speaker 1: is really important because this when you take a passion
22:17
Speaker 1: because you was heading down one direction twenty five years
22:20
Speaker 1: making stars, you know, selling records, making videos, and then
22:23
Speaker 1: know this is what And I look at pictures too.
22:26
Speaker 1: I look at pictures, I look at the interviews. I
22:30
Speaker 1: it feels like because you're doing this for you and
22:32
Speaker 1: you're making a difference because it's you. You know, a
22:36
Speaker 1: lot of people always talk about you know, when I
22:38
Speaker 1: managed Steve Harvey and I stopped managing and start doing
22:40
Speaker 1: my own thing, that was a transition, was a difficult
22:42
Speaker 1: transition for me. But I'm doing for Rashan McDonald now,
22:46
Speaker 1: and money making conversation is for Rashan McDonald. What I
22:50
Speaker 1: the values that I want to promote, the values that
22:53
Speaker 1: I want to put out there, you know, And so
22:56
Speaker 1: that's what I hear in your voice. I mean the
22:58
Speaker 1: articulation they can for Then you know something that you
23:01
Speaker 1: couldn't talk about, something you really didn't understand. You're an
23:04
Speaker 1: expert in it, and you want everybody to understand that
23:07
Speaker 1: there is a reason you should act this way, and
23:10
Speaker 1: you should not not be ashamed the kids be ashamed
23:14
Speaker 1: if you're feeling acting different for what they call normal
23:18
Speaker 1: situations when stress or anxiety falls upon your plate. Because
23:22
Speaker 1: I want to go to this new Instagram live show
23:24
Speaker 1: that you're doing during this pandemic period. It's called yeah,
23:28
Speaker 1: well is check in where your interview celebrities tell us
23:30
Speaker 1: about that. You know that that's transition though I was
23:33
Speaker 1: just transitioning. That's you know. Of course, I think when
23:38
Speaker 1: the quarantine for a captain, like everybody else, I was
23:41
Speaker 1: nervous about, you know, will the foundation be able to
23:43
Speaker 1: continue to get fun? You know what am I gonna do?
23:46
Speaker 1: Because I was doing a lot of pay thinking date,
23:48
Speaker 1: going to company, sharing my story around and of course
23:52
Speaker 1: all that got canceled. So, you know, God, I just
23:54
Speaker 1: sat still one morning and God was like, you can
23:56
Speaker 1: still be a service to others and the money will come.
23:59
Speaker 1: Don't worry about at So I just woke up one
24:01
Speaker 1: morning and sat feel and allowed God to speak to me,
24:04
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, you know it's all about
24:06
Speaker 1: well this. I was like, yeah, well this. So I
24:08
Speaker 1: was doing my old brainstorming session and I came up
24:11
Speaker 1: with the name, and then I got the I g
24:12
Speaker 1: live handle and you know, form the company, and I
24:16
Speaker 1: started texting my friends. I texted Charlemagne, who's the radio
24:20
Speaker 1: you know, well known radio host. So Charlemagne he was
24:25
Speaker 1: my first guest. He was like, of course I'll do it.
24:27
Speaker 1: Then I texted one of my close friends after Titia Campbell,
24:30
Speaker 1: she agreed to do it. She's been on the show.
24:33
Speaker 1: I've had um d ninth, I've had Karen Sivil, I've
24:36
Speaker 1: had the singer Estelle Um. I've had in former NBA
24:40
Speaker 1: player t n t Um, commentator Chris Weber, Erica Campbell.
24:45
Speaker 1: From Mary Mary, I mean, the list goes on because
24:48
Speaker 1: everybody at this time, you know, feels like you know,
24:51
Speaker 1: right or wrong. Mental health is just after you know,
24:54
Speaker 1: the forefront of everything, you know, not necessarily right or wrong,
24:57
Speaker 1: but you know, I think people are feel being anxious
25:00
Speaker 1: during this time. And to be able to check in
25:02
Speaker 1: with some of these celebrities, you know, to show everyday
25:05
Speaker 1: people like, look, we all are going through this. You know,
25:08
Speaker 1: it's not just you don't think something is wrong with you,
25:10
Speaker 1: and there's help out there if you need it, and
25:12
Speaker 1: it's nothing to be embarrassed about. So being able to
25:15
Speaker 1: start this year well on this platform, I think has
25:17
Speaker 1: been a real blessing um, just to show everybody that
25:20
Speaker 1: guess what, at the end of the day, we're all humans.
25:22
Speaker 1: We all may experience this. But at the same time,
25:25
Speaker 1: help is available. We don't have to live in the valley, right.
25:29
Speaker 1: We go through so much trials and tribulations in our lives,
25:32
Speaker 1: but we may have ups and downs and turn it
25:34
Speaker 1: out and motions that our mental health. But help is available.
25:38
Speaker 1: And that is the one thing that we're trying to
25:40
Speaker 1: do with silence and shame is to let people know
25:42
Speaker 1: that if you need help, you can get it. Wow,
25:45
Speaker 1: it really is important. It's really interesting when you when
25:48
Speaker 1: you start a platform and you can call on people,
25:50
Speaker 1: important people and they respond that's important. But then here
25:53
Speaker 1: in your conversation something came out of out of the
25:56
Speaker 1: conversation to me that was really important. Sometimes we we
26:01
Speaker 1: use work or busy to hide anxiety or to hide
26:07
Speaker 1: depression and and and then when you hide it, it
26:10
Speaker 1: pops up. Someplaces can pop up in the relationship, sudden
26:13
Speaker 1: anger it can pop up, and parenting, screaming at your kids,
26:17
Speaker 1: abusing your kids. You know, an abuse can be a
26:20
Speaker 1: different way, just striking your kid or punching your kid unnecessarily.
26:24
Speaker 1: There are different ways of abuse. Doesn't have to be
26:26
Speaker 1: just pounding on your kid to abuse your kid or
26:28
Speaker 1: abuse your mate, and so so we can mass so
26:31
Speaker 1: So when I was hearing you talk, I was like, man,
26:34
Speaker 1: you know, because you can just be busy, busy, busy,
26:36
Speaker 1: but really have a problem. Would just being busy and
26:40
Speaker 1: you and you and high functioning persons? You know, really
26:47
Speaker 1: I'm just popping out. I'm just living this little crazy life.
26:50
Speaker 1: I'm at the lake, just calming myself down. You said,
26:52
Speaker 1: that's coping, you know, high high function in person. All
26:56
Speaker 1: this anxiety and depression because you're a depression come can
26:59
Speaker 1: come at you at different waves. You know, when you
27:01
Speaker 1: don't get a deal or something important happens to you,
27:04
Speaker 1: how do you recover from that? You know? Have you
27:06
Speaker 1: planned to tell people with Shawn? So when not to
27:09
Speaker 1: cut you off, I'm sorry, but but to what you're saying,
27:11
Speaker 1: it's so important because I want people to know that
27:13
Speaker 1: sometimes we can be really really sad, but that doesn't
27:16
Speaker 1: mean that we're depressed, right, So you gotta like take
27:19
Speaker 1: a serious look at it because I don't want people
27:21
Speaker 1: to think and the takeaway from the video is that
27:23
Speaker 1: you know, we're all depressed, but I would tell people
27:25
Speaker 1: we all go through sadness, that experience anxiousness, but it
27:29
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that we're depressed. But if that those feelings
27:33
Speaker 1: and those thoughts really prolonged, and then your family or
27:36
Speaker 1: your colleagues, people around you start seeing a pattern and saying,
27:41
Speaker 1: you know, man, what's up with you know? Uh Keisha?
27:44
Speaker 1: Or what's up with Rudy? Like you don't really seem
27:46
Speaker 1: like himself? Like you have got to then say, okay,
27:49
Speaker 1: you know what, something is not quite right, and you
27:51
Speaker 1: gotta be willing to listen to people that's giving you
27:54
Speaker 1: that the people that love you, that's giving you that feedback,
27:56
Speaker 1: because oftentimes, you know, I was that person I felt like,
27:59
Speaker 1: oh I not wrong me. I don't need to talk
28:01
Speaker 1: to nobody. See the pattern changing and you recognize these signs.
28:06
Speaker 1: That's why we want to educate people on what the
28:08
Speaker 1: signs and symptoms are because if you see something different
28:11
Speaker 1: and you're going down the wrong path, you got your
28:14
Speaker 1: help absolutely. You know, May is mental health mental Health
28:17
Speaker 1: Awareness Month and National Silence the same day is Tuesday,
28:21
Speaker 1: May fifth. That day silence the shame will be hosting
28:24
Speaker 1: the big text of thro tell us about that and
28:27
Speaker 1: how we can participate. I know I have a banner
28:29
Speaker 1: right now has the word shame struck out. Talk to
28:32
Speaker 1: us about it and UH and so we can I
28:35
Speaker 1: know I'll be putting that banner on my social media.
28:36
Speaker 1: I'll be putting that banner in my newsletter that goes
28:39
Speaker 1: out to name thousand and to go out this week.
28:42
Speaker 1: I have a made first newsletter, so it to go
28:44
Speaker 1: out this Friday promoting your May fifth events. Tell us
28:47
Speaker 1: about it that MS Dawson, Yeah, so thank you, Thank
28:50
Speaker 1: you for Shawn, and we appreciate the support. So May
28:52
Speaker 1: fifth is National Files to Shame Day. We are going
28:55
Speaker 1: to be interviewing politicians and celebrities and getting people to
28:59
Speaker 1: talk about our mental health on our Silence to Shame
29:02
Speaker 1: Instagram page. Also UH national recording artists in DJs. Germaine
29:06
Speaker 1: dupri is going to be doing a virtual fundraising for
29:09
Speaker 1: us on his i G from four to six pm
29:11
Speaker 1: and we'll have celebrities around the world and influencers and
29:15
Speaker 1: everyday people posting. You can post a picture of yourself
29:19
Speaker 1: or video talking about your whole personal experience and encourage
29:22
Speaker 1: people to donate um again, We're gonna be raising funds
29:26
Speaker 1: for resources and programs, our scholarship programs, and a portion
29:29
Speaker 1: of the proceeds will go to free therapy during the pandemic.
29:33
Speaker 1: So to donate, you can text the word silence the
29:36
Speaker 1: seven oh seven O seven oh, or you can visit
29:40
Speaker 1: our website and donate at Silence the Shame dot com.
29:44
Speaker 1: Now more than ever, mental health is so important because
29:47
Speaker 1: I'd like to tell people it's mind, body and soul.
29:50
Speaker 1: We're seawan what affects your mental can affect your physical.
29:53
Speaker 1: You talked about you know, things manifesting into other problems
29:57
Speaker 1: in other areas well. Mental health issue can manifest into
30:01
Speaker 1: physical issues and vice versa. So we've got to raise
30:03
Speaker 1: our voice and raise the community awareness and make this
30:07
Speaker 1: is the day to talk about it, to support it,
30:09
Speaker 1: to donate, and to get everybody to being their best selves.
30:14
Speaker 1: My friend fantastic, I want to thank you for coming
30:17
Speaker 1: on the show. I will definitely as I told you earlier,
30:19
Speaker 1: I will be supporting you. In fact, I probably upload
30:22
Speaker 1: a picture of myself by my late coping. As you say,
30:25
Speaker 1: you know, then you know that this is where I go.
30:28
Speaker 1: This is my outlet when things are on top of
30:30
Speaker 1: me and I can't control. I gotta because you know
30:34
Speaker 1: the thing about the beautiful, the beautiful part about this
30:37
Speaker 1: interview is that we all deal with stress differently. We
30:41
Speaker 1: just gotta understand how to cope with it. And like
30:43
Speaker 1: you said, if it's prolonged, then it should be investigated.
30:46
Speaker 1: If it's affecting your family, it's affecting your business, affecting
30:49
Speaker 1: the way you're communicating, affecting your parenting, it should be investigated.
30:54
Speaker 1: This dogs want to thank you for coming on my show.
30:57
Speaker 1: She is the founder of Silence to Shame. May fifth
30:59
Speaker 1: is gonna be my day. That day, Sounds to Shame
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Speaker 1: will be hosting the big text of thon. Thank you
31:04
Speaker 1: for coming to my show. Ms dos, thank you so much.
31:07
Speaker 1: And I just want to say I've been a fan
31:09
Speaker 1: and and and and watch you behind the scenes for
31:12
Speaker 1: many years and I'm so proud of you and what
31:14
Speaker 1: you continue to do to bless people UM in many ways.
31:17
Speaker 1: So keep up the good work, Mr McDonald, I appreciate it. Again.
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