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The B -Side in boxing. B -Side shit. B -Side.
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B -Side. And the B -Side. You got a B -Side.
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The B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. The B
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-Side thing. This is the B -Sides Boxing Podcast.
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Something's weird, but yeah, this is purely for
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the money. I mean, he's not coming back for competition
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or for like, you know. I mean, this is not going
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to lead into something as a continuation of his
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boxing career. This is purely a money fight.
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Hell no, yeah. But fortunately, I don't know
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who's going to watch it. You know? Yeah, I mean,
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I don't even know his opponent. It's a Saudi
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dude, I'm pretty sure. I have no idea who he
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is. But it's not found about Riyadh, though,
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right? I mean, I'm assuming so. I think it's
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going to be in Saudi, you know? I was assuming
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it was a Saudi thing. Yeah. But I guess we don't
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have, like, exact details yet. But if he's fighting
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a Saudi, like, fighter, I don't know. I think
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it was connected to Saudi. So I'm assuming it's
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going to be over there. All right. If it's not
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the Saudis, it's going to be the Emiratis. Yeah.
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One of the two. Anthony Joshua, if you're on
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the undercard. Fire. Man. It's going to be weird
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seeing him. He's going to look horrendous. He's
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going to look horrendous. You never know. He
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could make a big comeback. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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The last thing to go is powwow. Exactly. 13 -year
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ring rust. Yeah. Ricky's power is unmatched,
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right, guys? That's what he was known for, right?
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That's what he was known for. Now, I wanted to
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save this one. This other bit of news, we'll
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save it until the end. Just because that's what
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we're going to be talking about it anyway. So,
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some recaps really quickly. No limit boxing in
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Australia. Liam Parrow retires Jonathan Navarro
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in the fifth. And Liam Wilson with another fucking
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snoozer of a UD. Good stuff. Australian. See
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you later. I will say, like, Liam Parra was,
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like, clearly way better than Kambosis, though.
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Oh, hell yeah. Like, if they're going to get
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behind any Australian fighter, they need to get
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behind him. Because he is way better than Kambosis.
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He's a Kambolution. Fuck. Yeah. Yeah, he's way
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better. Way, way better. Kambolution worked.
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Kambolution, yeah. That's a very good one. Moving
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to... Eye of the Tiger on the 27th of June. This
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was a pretty standard Eye of the Tiger event
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in that it was a fuckload of one -sided whoopings.
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That's pretty much all there are on Eye of the
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Tiger events. Stephen Butler, KO4 over Jose de
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Jesus Macias. Butler is not very good. So it
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probably tells you the caliber of the opponent.
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Unfortunate, but that's what it is. Arslanbek
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Makhmudov stops Ricardo Brown in the first. Like,
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I guess you could call that a fight. I suppose
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you could call that boxing. Classic Eye of the
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Tiger matchmaking. Yeah, it really was. This
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was like dumpy fucking heavyweights. It was a
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cream pie card. Yeah, dude, this was bad. I mean,
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yeah, and even to the main. They should call
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it that. They should call their events the cream
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pie series. Yeah. That's what it is. We got to
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throw that in there. Christian Mbili with a cream
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pie and one over Maciej Sulecki. The interim
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WBC. 168 pound title was on the line here. Christian
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needs to stop being a big fish in a little pond.
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He's only limiting his own potential by doing
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this. He looked fine. He has a similar opponent
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to Diego Pacheco. I think he fought him in January.
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Diego knocked him out, but he knocked him out
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with a body shot in the, I think, 6th or 7th
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round. It took them a while to get him out of
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there. I remember at the time they were saying
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that it was a good stoppage because the guy's
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never been stopped before, but now you see Mbili
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knocking him out in the first. What does that
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tell you? Yeah. I need to see Mbili versus someone
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real at this point. This entire event was sort
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of hilarious. I don't know if you guys saw, but
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whenever Selecki was walking out, as he entered
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the ring, he went through the middle of the ropes
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and his leg got caught and he slipped. And jokingly,
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I was talking with Robbie and I was saying, oh,
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he's going to get knocked out in the first round.
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He twisted his ankle. He's torn. But then he
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just immediately got flatlined in the first round.
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I was like, oh, man. It sort of worked out. Yeah,
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I mean, I need to see him really take a step
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up. I mean, I'm trying to think of, like, his
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notable fights. I mean, there's not many names
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that are coming up. Derevyanchenko is a notable
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one. Wasn't he, like, he had, like, one arm?
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He was, like, super injured. Yeah, he was. Yeah.
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He went life and death. Yeah, he needs, I don't
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know. I wonder what the matchmaking next will
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be, I mean, because he is... Like, sort of separating
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himself from, like, the lower tier of the division.
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But I wonder what his next fight will be. According
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to Boxer, he's number two. Yeah. I think he's
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going to get put on a Riyadh event soon. If there's
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a guy that they want to put on a Riyadh event,
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it's him. I mean, he has power. He has power.
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Yeah, he's got pretty, at least from the buy
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test, pretty good power. Yeah. Not bad. Not good.
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But we're... He's a fan -friendly fighter, you
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know. Yeah, I mean, the knockout was really nice
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here. So, I mean, that's definitely what you
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want to see whenever you're fighting that level
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of competition. Exactly. I want to see him against
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K .O. Plant next, if, you know, they can make
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that. Oh, yeah. Up and coming in Billy versus
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on the downturn to K .O. Plant. You know? That
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would be a good name. Yeah. I guess, yeah, I
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mean, he needs to fight someone, yeah. An easier
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fight to make probably would be Munguia. That
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would be hard. That would be a really good fight,
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actually. The thing is, like, how long is Munguia
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going to be, like, suspended for sometimes? Yeah,
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they haven't even decided yet, huh? Well, you
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could fight in Canada, right? Yeah. Isn't that,
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like, commission shopping? Pretty much. Or, like,
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there's some, like, illegality, like, with that,
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but... Like, Conor Benn did it. Yeah. Oh, yeah,
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he came to the U .S. to fight, no? Yeah, he did.
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Yeah. True. But, I mean, Munguia, he's with top
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rank now, so they could... I don't understand
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his eye of the tiger, but they're affiliated
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with top rank, so... I might see something happening
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with that. Yeah. I mean, and Billy needs to be
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fighting that level of competition now. I mean,
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he's pretty highly ranked, and he's been like
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that for some time. We could fight the boogeyman,
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but they're not going to put him... They're not
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going to put up with him. You guys know what
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I'm talking about. Oh, yeah. No. I mean, he's
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actually right. I think Iglesias is ranked higher
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in the ring. They're in the same promotion. Yeah,
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but I guess that means that's two of their top
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guys that they wouldn't want to put up against.
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For sure. They're so scared they won't even mention
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his damn name. I mean, Iglesias would ruin him,
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Billy. I feel like... I could make a good fight
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with him, yeah. I'd like to see Mbili go down
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to New York for the upcoming card. Berlanga and
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Shiraz. Ooh, that's not a bad show. Yeah, that's
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not a bad show. Yeah. He should be there, absolutely.
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He should definitely go. He's close enough. Yeah.
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Yeah. Like, three -hour flight. No. Well, yeah,
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three -hour flight. I think you're right. Might
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be a three -hour drive. Yeah. Montreal. Something
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like that. Either way. That dude's a boxer. He
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got money. Yeah. I want to see him soon. Yeah,
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tax write -off. There you go. Yeah. He took no
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damage, so we could see him back pretty quickly.
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Oh, yeah. And in all honesty, though, like I
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know because they were in talks to have a Pacheco
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fight. Do you think that fight ever gets materialized
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even after this fight? Because they had the same
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opponent. I already know that Pacheco was watching
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for sure. You know? He's fighting McCombie, right?
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He's fighting Trevor McCombie? Yes. On the damn
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card? That's Trevor McCombie, though. I don't
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want to jinx or anything, but I'm... We'll get
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to it when we talk about it in the podcast. But
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I think he's going to wash Trevor McCombie, dude.
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Dude, hopefully. That would be embarrassing if
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he lost there. Oh, yeah. Remember that. Yeah.
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That's true, yeah. Well, I mean, we ourselves
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got to be rooting for Checo as much as we could
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because, you know. Oh, yeah, yeah. I know, I
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know. You know the circumstance of that fight,
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dude. It's like, it's like symbolic to us. Oh,
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shit. I forgot about that. Yeah, you're fucking
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right. God. Like, we got, we got Rupert Pacheco.
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Yeah, I mean, I think he, he probably will win.
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Like, defensively, defensively, he's looked a
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lot better. I mean, but like, McCombie does have
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power. If he doesn't have anything else, he has
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power. So you just need to be careful. But we'll
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get to that when we get to it. That's true. But
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yeah, if Pacheco is going to be available, I'm
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going to fight Pacheco. Yeah. That's a good option.
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Moving to... What is this? Legacy Reloaded. In
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Wichita, Kansas. Deontay Wilder is back. And
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he certainly had a fight. One of the fights ever.
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Did you guys buy the pay -per -view? No. I can't
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believe it was pay -per -view, to be honest.
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I can't either. It's crazy. When they told me,
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I thought it was a joke, but it actually was.
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Pay -per -view .com. Yeah, that event was, like,
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really wild. I remember, like, the running order
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was, like, hard to find, and then, like, they
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just kept churning out fights before Wilder,
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and we never knew when he was up. Somebody, one
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of my buddies told me that he's having more fun
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with them showing The mayor of Wichita? On the
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screen? Instead of the fight? The M. Yeah. Yeah.
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A random place for a fight. That's our boy Wilder,
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though. Yeah. He might be fighting again kind
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of soon. He didn't look all that great here.
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I don't know. I really want him to stop before
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he gets embarrassed. You're going to put him
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against Anderson, right? Oh, jeez. Finally. I
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thought this was going to be his last fight.
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I thought that's the way they were promoting
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it, but as soon as he won, which he won by a
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technical knockout in the seventh round, as soon
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as he won, he was talking about Anthony Joshua.
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I don't know. I thought this was going to be
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his last fight. Are we going to be serious about
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it? Because I actually kind of do want to...
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I think I think I... Make fun of me, but I think
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he should fight Derek Chisora. That would be
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funny. There's battle of the unks. Derek Chisora?
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Did he do something to you? Did he kick your
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dog or something? It's washed versus washed.
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Come back in a century versus come back in a
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century. I actually do struggle to see who would
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win that fight. But, like, Chisora will push
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Wilder, like, on the back foot. And normally
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he does not like that. But, I mean, I don't know.
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Wilder was talking about coming back and fighting.
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So, like, anything is possible. Anything is possible.
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Because, I mean, he still is, like, somewhat
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of a big name. Deontay Wilder just knocked out
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American heavyweight. All right, guys. Come on.
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Anthony Herndon. Yeah, I was joking about it
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saying that Wilder had a more recent heavyweight
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win than Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury. I mean,
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yeah, I mean, he got a KO. He got one KO more
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than Canelo. That's true. That should at least
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show you that. I mean, he's on the come up right
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now. Come up is very loose there, but yeah. He's
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still riding the plateau. This is like the dip
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plateau. Hey, we're bomb squad truth or shit.
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I'm fucking riding him. I am, but I just don't
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want to see him get laid out again. I just do
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not want to see that. I don't want to see him
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get embarrassed. If you need to go out on a win,
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you got one. What else do you want? Let Jean
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fight. Genuinely hurt. Seeing him get done like
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that, it was so bad. That actually made me so
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sad. I was just staring at the screen for like
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two minutes straight. Just mentally just crying.
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Yeah. I mean, the dude was sad. He got done real
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early. At least he got the win here, though.
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That was the funeral of the American heavyweight.
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And then Yuri Anderson getting knocked out was
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the burial of American heavyweights. Yeah. But
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now we have Joshua Edwards and he's Jesus. We'll
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talk about it right now. He's rising again. I
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saw someone talking about make Wilder versus
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Joshua Edwards to pass the torch. That would
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be so bad. I mean, hey, he fights a big name
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and he can knock him out. There you go. Yeah,
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I just, I fear that Wilder, like, most likely
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gets completely slept in that fight, but... I
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will say, I will say, they could send Wilder
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to Probox, get him some tune -up fights there,
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right? Wilder on Probox. Hell yeah, that would
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be on the Probox pay -per -view, right? You have
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him on Probox, get a couple tune -up fights,
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and then put him on a real card, main event.
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Tell that shit it's pay -per -view. Boom. Come
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back to the century. That would be such a...
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Come back to this foreman. That would be a wild,
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like, turnaround. I mean, Wilder, like, in his
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fights with Fury, that was, like, some of the
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biggest boxing, or boxing in modern history,
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at least. And it would be such a... I would turn
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around and see him on pro box. I mean, we already
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saw him on BLK front, so it can't get much worse.
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That's worse than pro box. That's worse than
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pro box. Yeah. Who the fuck watches BLK Prime?
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At least we watch Provox. We have to go on...
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Provox is a good product. The Magic team is actually
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really pristine. Very good fights. Exactly. We
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watch Provox. Who the fuck watches BLK Prime?
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What the fuck even is BLK Prime? Like, Netflix?
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Yeah, I still don't understand it, really. It's
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like Netflix, but marketed towards the black
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community. It's a similar one, like some years
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ago, called Brown Sugar. They had a lot of black
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exploitation movies. What? That's like BET Plus.
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Yeah. I did not know about this. I did not know
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about this. What about Brown Sugar? Yeah, I mean,
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was this another boxing promotion? They had some
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fights on it. I don't remember who it was. That's
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crazy. But yeah. uh brown sugar had uh hosted
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a fight or two i think it was when pbc was first
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starting out i was like there's no way i missed
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this way okay Let's move on to, really quick,
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GBM on DAZN. Bradley Rea beats Shaquan Pitters
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for the EBU Light Heavyweight title. There you
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go. It was a fight. Did you miss anything? No.
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I saw that, regretfully. Yeah, I mean... He watched
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it. As I'm sitting there watching it... I'm like,
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I have a professional obligation to do this.
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And as the rounds went on, I'm like, oh my God,
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what am I watching? What am I doing with my life?
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But yeah, got to persevere. DAZN. Most valuable
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promotions at the Honda Center in Anaheim, California.
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Opening the card was Joshua Edwards. KO one over
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Dominic Hardy. Thank you for mentioning him.
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Yeah, of course. Very good. He's got three and
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three. He's a 100 % KO ratio undefeated. What
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more do you want? That KO ratio is better than
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Canelo, dude. That's all you want. It was a good
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knockout, too, by the way. A very good knockout.
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Yeah, that was pretty nasty, actually. What was
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the sequence? How did you get him? I think it
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was a right hand as his opponent was stepping
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back. I mean, he just laid him out. You sent
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the gif? Yeah. It was... I don't know if... I
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thought you rewatched everything. Not this card,
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because I watched it. Oh, okay, okay. Let me
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see. Boom. Oh, that's nice. Yeah, look at the
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very end as well. I was looking up at Jesus.
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Yeah. The leg as well got caught. Oh, that leg
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getting caught. I have seen this before. The
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leg getting caught is brutal. That'll mess up
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your knee. This is the second coming of American
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Heavyweight Boxing, guys. Correct. I'm a believer.
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The hype is high. The hype is high, I believe.
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It won't be an auto -balling situation. Yeah,
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like, I like Torres Jr. and all, and, like, I'm
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going to support him, but, like, Joshua Edwards,
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like, I don't know, I feel like I have, like,
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genuine faith he could do something. That's the
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real deal. Yeah. The only thing I got to say
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about Joshua Edwards, if he ever does listen
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to this podcast, I will say just keep your hands
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close to your, make your guard tight. Because
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not everybody's going to be smaller than you.
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Yeah, I mean, that is what will be interesting.
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Like, you know, his next few fights will be like
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upgrading or like, you know, step ups. And it's
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going to be real interesting whenever he starts
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fighting these like tight weight dudes. Yeah.
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You know, serious, serious power. He's got to
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realize that he's not going to be protected by
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Golden Boy for long. You know, he's going to
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have to step up and fight a big fella, you know?
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Yeah, I don't want to see him done like Anderson
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was. Oh. Just getting laid out like that. Hopefully
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he fights a couple years. He'll fight a good
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fighter. Step up. Yeah. How old is he? I think
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he's like 24. He went to the Olympics. He's young.
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He's young. He went to the Olympics. He can build.
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There's no need for a massive fight. He's also
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a switch hitter. Yeah, dude. His boxing is clean.
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Like, his movement is really slick. Like, the
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thing is that in the amateurs, when I was watching
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him at the Olympics, he was good. But I could
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tell right there and then, like, I knew he was
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going to become a professional heavyweight because
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there was no way. I knew he was not going to
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win the Olympics just because of the way he fought
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versus, you know, the Ukrainians, the Russians.
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I didn't even know who won the heavyweight. Yeah,
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it's a different style of amateurs. It's a different
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style. It's practically a different sport. Yeah,
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completely different. So I knew he was going
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to work well in the heavyweight professional.
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We had another good knockout. Raul Curiel, KO4
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over Victor Rodriguez. That's a nice one. Nice
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one, yeah. Holly Holm gets a UD over Yolanda
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Ochoa. Made me look bad. I thought Holly Holm
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had had it. She's like in her 40s. It was getting
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washed over on UFC. And I thought it was it.
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I thought this was just like a, I don't know,
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Hail Mary. But nope, apparently she's still got
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it. Good. Yeah. Do you know who does have it?
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Alex, get your gloat ready. Floyd Schofield.
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Oh, yeah. KO1 over Tevin fucking Farmer. That
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was crazy. I was screaming. I was like, yeah!
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Yeah! Dude, I was so hyped because the amount
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of shit I've taken from back in Skopje these
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last couple months has been crazy. Leo, and you
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know, ever since even our first conversation
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we had, one of our first podcasts too, I've been
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kind of hyping up Floyd Skopje for a while. Now,
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I understand it is Tevin Farmer. The guy does
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a lot of losses. But you look how he fought against
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Zepeda, a guy that's going against Shakur, versus
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how Schofield dealt with him. Zepeda couldn't
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even hurt him in 24 rounds. Schofield knocked
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him out within 30 seconds. What does that tell
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you? Either Zepeda's washed or Schofield is the
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next coming, the second coming. I wouldn't say
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washed, but he wasn't like that big of a puncher.
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Not washed. What's the word? Overrated. Overrated.
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Yeah, overrated. I mean, I'm going to back my
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boys to pay no matter when. I'll go get to that
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later on. But the fact that Schofield did that
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within 30 seconds. It's pretty impressive. My
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God. Pretty damn impressive. Crazy. Crazy. Yeah.
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Demolition job. Demolition job. I think I mentioned
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this when we talked about it on Ultimate F and
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Casuals. But Alex, have you heard of the jar
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analogy for boxing or combat sports? What's the
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jar analogy? So when you're trying to open a
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jar and it's really difficult, you're struggling
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and struggling and struggling with it. You're
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putting a lot of effort into trying to get it
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open and you can't. And then you just hand it
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off to someone and they pop it like nothing.
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Tevin Farmer is the jar. William Zepeda is the
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one that was putting in the elbow grease. And
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then Floyd Schofield just pops the lid. Then
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the fans are saying, oh, well, I'm going to add
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something to this. The fans are also saying that
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William Zepeda also loosened the jar. You know
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how people say that? Yeah, exactly. I loosened
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the jar a little bit, you know, for you. So there's
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that. But I highly disagree with that statement.
25:26
That was fantastic. That's fantastic. Saul has
25:31
been high on Floyd Schofield for some time. We
25:35
will let him have this victory. Oh, yeah. This
25:36
is your day, man. You celebrate. This is like
25:41
when Leo was hyping up Fulton prior to the Brandon
25:45
Figueroa fight. And then he showed up. Yeah,
25:48
he showed up, yeah. Or I think the Adamas win
25:53
too, right? Right, guys? Right? Adamas, yeah.
25:57
True. Yeah, another one. I've been getting lucky
26:03
this year. I'd like to thank Al Heyman for making
26:06
all this possible. Sure. Moving on. Can I say
26:12
one more thing real quick? Yeah, go ahead. So
26:15
now, officially, Floyd Schofield is contender.
26:19
Now what? Who do you guys think you should find
26:21
next? See, that's interesting. 135 is so stacked.
26:27
So stacked right now. Fuck, that's hard. I've
26:33
got to think too because some people have moved
26:35
up to 140 as well and it's hard to keep track
26:38
of stuff. Keisha's not around anymore, fortunately.
26:42
Yeah. I mean, remember... Body. The Canadian
26:51
guy. He has power. You can do better than that,
26:56
though. I think if whoever wins against Zepeda
26:59
Shakur, he takes the loser. That's a good shot.
27:04
So Zepeda versus Schofield. You never know. We
27:08
never know. We'll talk about it later. I'll make
27:11
the case. I'm going to make the case right now.
27:13
I'll make the case. All right. I want to hear
27:16
that. Later on. Later on. Yeah, we'll get to
27:18
the Shakur. And we'll Josh Padley loose in the
27:22
jar. There you go. Oh, man. What an analogy,
27:27
man. That's a great pull. Fighting Josh Padley
27:32
is not a bad one. Yeah, Josh Padley. If he really
27:36
wants to, he could fight the next, he could do
27:39
a final eliminator, right? For the WBA. A mandatory
27:43
for Tank. If he wanted to. I mean, this knockout
27:49
does a lot for him. Like, this is a high -profile
27:51
knockout. Kevin Farmer, yeah. Especially after
27:55
the Payton fight. A lot of people saw it, too.
27:58
A lot of people saw that knockout. It went viral.
28:01
Yeah, it does a lot for his career. Not just
28:04
because of the person he knocked out, but the
28:06
card he was on. Yeah, exactly. I mean, I know
28:10
it wasn't as big as the Mike Tyson one. Nowhere
28:12
near as big, actually. But it still got some
28:14
traction, you know, from the casual fan base.
28:17
Yeah. So a lot of people are going to watch LaPointe
28:19
Scofield and be like, oh my god, his name's Floyd.
28:21
He's like Mayweather. You know? There you go.
28:27
That's what you just highlighted is one of the
28:30
things that I legitimately not... Damn it, what's
28:37
the fucking word? Unironically. How the hell
28:40
did I not? How ironic. Unironically, I appreciate
28:45
about Jake Paul is that he puts youngsters like
28:50
Floyd Schofield up the bill. And, like, he sees
28:54
potential in people and he gives them a shot.
28:57
Yeah. Amanda Serrano, always putting her in the
29:00
spotlight. We're going to be talking about her
29:03
too right now, huh? Yeah, absolutely. So, moving
29:06
up from Floyd Schofield. Gilberto Ramirez. UD
29:12
over Yuniel Dorticos. Gross. Dorte Gross. Very...
29:22
dirty fighting. Not a flashy win by any means,
29:29
but it's a good win. Yeah. A lot of below -the
29:34
-belt shots from Dordogos. Zubla got the win.
29:38
He won decisively. No controversy. But yeah,
29:43
decent win. Is that one of his better wins? Yes.
29:51
I would say, yeah, probably resume -wise, yes.
29:54
Performance -wise, I would say it's probably
29:55
one of his most lackluster, I would say, in my
29:57
opinion. Oh, yeah, it was pretty lackluster.
30:00
The CBS fight was honestly probably one of his
30:01
better performances. I was just going to say
30:02
CBS was beautiful. Yeah, that was a perfect fight,
30:08
pretty much. But, yeah, this one was sort of
30:10
lackluster. But, yeah, man, we'll see what happens
30:13
with him. It'll be very interesting. What's Jai
30:20
doing? Because he just had that fight with Squeo.
30:27
Yeah, I mean, there's nothing on right now. I
30:29
don't know if they're in negotiation at the moment,
30:33
but Zurdo said in the post -fight interview that
30:39
he wants to unify the titles. So, I mean, let's
30:44
see that fight, man. That's pretty much the only
30:46
fight at Cruiserweight that matters. Four. Or
30:53
there's a possibility of a Jake Paul -Zerto fight.
30:59
Wouldn't turn down that one. Which means there's
31:01
also a possibility of a Jake Paul -Jai fight
31:05
if he beats Zerto. Oh, whoa. That would be crazy.
31:11
I feel like there's no way he takes the Jai fight.
31:13
Oh, hell no. Worst timeline. That would be the
31:17
worst timeline. He'd get flatlined real bad.
31:21
Real, real bad. I would love to see that, though.
31:25
I would pay to be with you. Jai Upataya takes
31:30
Badu Jack to get the final belt, but he loses.
31:35
And then Jake Paul beats Zurdo. And then they
31:41
unify for Undisputed. Jake Paul versus Badu Jack,
31:45
Undisputed at Cruiserweight, man. Get me out
31:47
of this timeline. Get me out of this timeline,
31:49
bro. That was crazy. Get me out of here. That
31:51
timeline's probably gonna have Benavidez, Canelo.
31:55
Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll get it for sure, man.
31:57
2026 is on the way. Trust. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
32:00
For sure. For sure. We're gonna see that shit.
32:04
That's the unholy timeline, I tell you. We gotta
32:07
do this fucked up shit. We're cursed. And the
32:14
last one on the bill, Jake Paul does a dance
32:20
with Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. I say that with as
32:26
much scorn as I can put into my voice because
32:29
God damn it, that was fucking embarrassing. Again,
32:33
how do I keep putting my faith into Chavez? Why
32:36
do I keep doing this to myself? I don't understand.
32:41
I felt horrible just watching that fight. Yeah.
32:51
So, I was about to say, I truly believe that
32:56
Chavez was told he was going to get paid off
32:59
to take a dive. Because there's no way... He
33:02
fought not bad in those last couple rounds. True.
33:06
And the fact that... From what I see, the fact
33:10
that he was able to fight like that at all, tells
33:12
me that he was able to win the fight. But he
33:14
just chose not to. He just chose to put off the
33:18
pedal and wait until round five, round six, before
33:21
he stepped it up. Sad. I think that's just the
33:24
thing. Jake Paul also started the guys in the
33:27
later rounds. It was pretty clear. But I mean,
33:30
bro, Chavez just did not throw in the early rounds.
33:34
I don't know if he was just worried about Jake
33:35
Paul's power or what. But he, like, was just
33:38
showed up and just not throwing anything. I mean,
33:41
the stats were insane for, like, the first four
33:43
or five rounds. His punch stats were, like, ridiculous.
33:45
I mean, he threw nothing. Oh, yeah. It was just
33:50
fucking stupid. And it's funny because if it
33:54
wasn't rigged, honestly, if it wasn't rigged
33:57
at all, I absolutely think that he was scared
33:59
to lose to a YouTuber. And that's why he didn't
34:01
want to go out and throw. That's what my thinking
34:04
was. Yeah, I mean, I think, yeah, I think he
34:09
just didn't want to get laid out or knocked down,
34:11
which, I mean, I guess he accomplished his goal.
34:13
But, I mean, yeah, in like the eighth, ninth,
34:16
and tenth round, I mean, he's like, oh, let me
34:19
try punching. And it actually worked. Surprise,
34:21
surprise. I'll try punching in this boxing match.
34:24
I'm actually a boxer. Yeah. For God. And it's
34:31
funny that now the biggest curse of this fight
34:33
is that now Jake Paul is ranked. That's exactly
34:35
where I was going to go with it. All of this
34:38
and now he's ranked 14th by the WBA. That's wild.
34:46
Probably one of the craziest things I've seen
34:48
this year so far. Not even like shock value,
34:52
you know? Like what the hell? What other wild
34:56
shit has happened so far? In the boxing world?
35:00
Yeah. This year? Yeah. That was pretty wild.
35:09
Yeah, I am. Nah. That's only a world breaker
35:23
for a certain subsect of people. Yeah. Yeah.
35:29
for some reason. I'm just trying to think. How
35:36
much of the backlash of this is because it's
35:42
Jake Paul? Because RGF in the chat, in Discord,
35:48
he was putting up the number 13th ranked guy
35:52
has yet to have a 10 round fight. And Jake Paul
35:56
has already had a few. I mean, eh? Jake Paul's
36:02
winning his fights. He's a clown. Absolutely,
36:05
he's a clown. But, man, he's the best clown in
36:09
the fucking circus right now. With the WBA being
36:13
the way it is. Call it as it is. He sells pay
36:18
-per -view, you know? See what you want. He does
36:20
sell pay -per -view stuff. Yeah. Yeah, he puts
36:22
up money, and honestly, I mean, he's not terrible.
36:25
I've seen worse boxing than him. He's been doing
36:27
it as long as, like, what, Roley, right? At this
36:31
point, I just think that maybe he's got a shot
36:35
in the future. Maybe not for a title, but to
36:39
become a contender, maybe. Because also, Cruiserweight,
36:43
if there's a weight class to do this at, it's
36:45
for sure Cruiserweight. Heavyweight, too, is
36:48
dominated by big dudes. Light heavyweight, you
36:51
got people on better beef. But Cruiserweight
36:53
is the perfect level of shitty fighters. The
36:57
desert. You know what I mean? Yeah, the desert,
36:59
dude. There's no disrespect. No disrespect to
37:02
the fighters themselves. I mean, they're all
37:04
tough in their own ways. You know, they're all
37:06
boxes. You know, you got to give respect to each
37:07
and every one of them. But I think Jake Paul
37:10
can beat a good amount of them. Yeah. Fortunately.
37:14
Fortunately, unfortunately, whatever you want
37:15
to say. I mean, he's got a shot. Maybe even bottle
37:19
jack. It's probably the most. Yeah. This is the
37:25
thing. We've known about this. Like, Jake Paul.
37:29
Like, he produces numbers whenever it comes to,
37:34
like, making fights or, like, making events.
37:36
He does numbers. So, I mean, that's always going
37:39
to matter in the boxing world just because it's
37:41
an entertainment business. And the boxing organizations
37:44
see this. So they're going to want their sanctioning
37:47
fees. They're going to want, you know, their
37:49
piece of the pie whenever it comes to these fights.
37:51
So that's why they put him in the rankings. But,
37:55
I mean, yeah, I'm not too pressed about it, to
37:57
be honest. Jake Paul, he won't hold a belt. So
38:01
boxing fans can rejoice about that. I don't think
38:04
he'll hold a belt. But I'm not too impressed
38:08
about him being ranked, at least. Yep. You're
38:14
putting weirdos, whatever weird fights in front
38:17
of them, he's winning. It's what you're supposed
38:21
to do to climb up the ladder. It would be nice
38:24
for him to fight other ranked contenders. instead
38:28
of just doing circus fights. But, I mean, that's
38:33
not really for me to say, I guess, with, uh,
38:36
what Jake Paul does with his time and money.
38:43
Well, I know he did deal with money. He didn't
38:45
give, uh, police officer Chavez his cut, probably.
38:49
As we know what happened. Oh, shit. Uh, Jake,
38:53
uh, Chavez got deported. like immediately after
38:56
the fight jake paul pike called it called the
39:00
ice on his ass hey this guy's illegal this guy's
39:02
connected he's in a little cartel pick him out
39:05
yeah that was wild to hear i thought that was
39:10
like a post dude i'm not even lying i i honestly
39:13
thought i didn't post until i saw the video i
39:15
was like what it would have been like a good
39:17
like boxing centel post yeah but uh yeah it was
39:21
all to see it was all to see Like, bro, what?
39:27
I mean, that just makes me think, like, it's
39:29
not even a coincidence, dude. It just has to
39:30
be, like, a connection, you know? I mean, from
39:34
what I was hearing, like, apparently they had
39:37
been, like, sort of tracking him since he entered
39:39
the country. And they had had a warrant for him.
39:43
But I'm like, bro, why would you wait until after
39:45
the fight if you think this guy's a threat? Right.
39:48
I'm glad, dude. That's the part that didn't really
39:51
make sense to me. I'm okay with everything else,
39:53
but, like... Why wait? Why give him a visa in
39:57
the first place? Exactly, yeah. If this guy's
40:01
on a list, then how did he get in? Exactly. They
40:05
probably pulled a couple favors. So there's a
40:07
warrant out for his arrest. They give him a visa
40:11
anyway. You can't say you didn't know where he
40:17
was. He was doing a bunch of media events. There
40:20
were like 50 cameras pointed at him at all times.
40:24
He's live on fucking YouTube Live for the weigh
40:27
-in. You know where he is. Why don't you go get
40:31
him if you have a problem with it? If you have
40:33
a problem with him being here? Just performative.
40:38
They had to let Jake Paul beat him up. I guess.
40:44
If it was anything, I'd say Jake Paul went to
40:46
bat on his behalf. It's like, hey, why don't
40:48
you guys... Let me handle this one. I mean, I
40:55
just feel like he probably called him in just
40:57
to not pay his ass. I feel like Jake Paul would
41:00
use this shot, I guess. Twisted shit. You beat
41:05
me up in the 10th round, get your ass deported.
41:10
Why even deport him if you're going to wait until
41:12
after the fight anyway when he has to leave regardless?
41:16
What the fuck, man? Really dumb. What was he
41:21
even doing, dude? What the hell was that guy
41:22
even doing? Get his ass... I don't even think
41:26
he was connected that hard, huh? Probably not.
41:30
He probably just knows mid -level guys just because
41:33
of his family name. Yeah. Anything more for the
41:42
Jake Paul Chavez card? let me put a bow on this
41:51
this section anyway uh wherever you're listening
41:56
what okay can i say one more thing yeah of course
41:59
because uh we haven't we haven't done this in
42:02
weeks huh so i want i want to mention one fight
42:07
and one fight only and then i just want to sneak
42:11
it in i want to i don't know if we mentioned
42:15
this last podcast last podcast but Brian Norman
42:17
Jr. versus Jen Psaki? Oh, shit. I don't think
42:20
we talked about it. It's been like three weeks
42:22
since her last pod. Yeah. I think this one, at
42:25
least there's a little bit of a squeeze in. Beautiful
42:29
knockout. It was phenomenal. Yeah. Phenomenal.
42:33
That was insane, man. I waited until four in
42:37
the morning for that shit. I didn't wait, but
42:41
I did see the fight afterward, man. It was demolition
42:43
jawline. He knocked him down in the first round
42:45
twice. Or something like that. I mean, it was
42:49
immediate. Juntosaki, to his credit, he tried
42:51
to fight. He came back trying to throw something
42:54
towards Norman Jr., but it just was not enough.
42:58
Norman looked good, man. He's got power. He's
43:00
fast. I mean, he's young. He looked phenomenal.
43:04
Yeah. Now that Boots is gone, I don't think he
43:06
can really make this his division. I think it
43:08
is his division at this point. Yeah. Is Norman
43:11
beating Boots allegations? They're not so far
43:14
-fetched, huh? Not so much anymore. It's arguable,
43:18
but I still think Boots would have won. Oh, maybe.
43:23
We'll never know. Unless Norman moves up, but
43:26
we'll see. Because right now, Norman, he in the
43:30
division right now. He got Roley. You got Barrios,
43:34
soon to be Pac -Man. Talk about the next week.
43:36
And then you got another vacant title. There
43:42
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45:16
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45:19
Yeah, I take them before so that I'm peaking
45:22
right as we're getting into the flow of it. See
45:26
your bad taste come out? That's like all the
45:30
time. I am nothing but bad takes. I think Tank
45:34
beats Manny Pacquiao at his prime. 135 Pacquiao
45:39
versus Tank? That might go into the emergency
45:45
topics category. There you go. We still have
45:49
Crawford in there. We do. Here goes the other
45:52
one. We have another one added. Awesome. All
45:55
right, coming up this week on the 11th, that
45:58
is Friday, MVP, Most Valuable Promotions on Netflix.
46:02
This will be at Madison Square. Katie Taylor's
46:06
Serrano 3. This is one of those all -women's
46:09
cards that happen from time to time. I'm hopeful
46:14
that they won't do ring girls for this because
46:19
that'd be kind of silly to have an all -women's
46:20
card with ring girls. It's always fun. I think
46:25
it's funny when there's ring boys. Those are
46:28
always hilarious to me. So I'm hopeful that they
46:31
pull out all the stops for the ladies on this
46:34
card. Ladies night. Yeah, it is. That's what
46:38
it is. Ring boys? Yeah, it's just like hunky
46:42
dudes in shorts. And they do the ring cards.
46:47
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So here's some notable names.
46:56
Savannah Marshall, if you're familiar with the
46:58
Brit scene, she's fighting Shadesha Green for
47:02
unifying the IBF and WBO super middleweight titles.
47:07
Sharnika Johnson is the WBA C &O champion doing
47:14
the undisputed thing with IBF champ Sharetta
47:18
Metcalf. I think Neeks is Australian. And Alicia
47:25
Baumgartner. Fucking my queen. Versus Jennifer
47:30
Miranda. Undisputed super featherweight champ
47:32
in Baumgartner. This is her first fight with
47:37
MVP, right? Yes, I believe so. All right. That'd
47:41
be cool. It's a nice event to get on. Ellie Scottney
47:44
versus Yamileth Mercado. Scottney is the IBF
47:48
champ. Mercado is the... Scottney is IBF and
47:52
WBO. Mercado is WBC, and they're unifying. And
47:57
capping it off, Katie Taylor versus Amanda Serrano.
48:01
Undisputed 140 -pound championship. Woof. I'm
48:06
actually interested to see or to hear about this.
48:09
Who do you guys have winning this fight, this
48:11
main event? I'm going with Serrano again. Method,
48:15
decision, KO. What do you think? What did I put?
48:21
Let me pull up my picks up. I put Serrano by
48:25
KO this time. Crazy. Crazy. I have Serrano by
48:32
decision. I agree with Leo's decision as well.
48:36
See, I was actually... The last two fights, I
48:40
backed up Katie Taylor by decision. But this
48:43
fight, man, I don't know. In the second fight,
48:45
Katie Taylor almost got blasted at the end of
48:48
the first few rounds by Serrano. If those were
48:50
three -minute fights, I think she was honestly
48:51
out of there. But, I mean, I don't know, man.
48:54
At one point, age has to... Like, I know Serrano's
48:57
old, too, but... It has to start affecting Taylor.
49:00
I mean, she's been in some wars. Yeah, exactly.
49:05
Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I mean, we'll see.
49:07
Should be a good fight. We'll see how much...
49:08
We'll see how much fool Mattrum has this time
49:11
around. I feel like... I feel like this time
49:14
Amanda Serrano's gonna get the decision. I don't
49:15
think she's gonna be able to get a knockout this
49:18
time around just because, like, what you said,
49:19
the age. She might... He's slowing down just
49:22
a little bit. It's been a while. That last fight
49:25
was a war, I will say. We don't know how much
49:28
that kind of put on her body. We'll see. I truly
49:34
think she's going to get this time around. Do
49:38
you think we see headbutts from Katie Taylor?
49:40
Oh, hell yeah. That's a Katie Taylor special
49:44
right there. Yeah, I was going to say. It's a
49:47
matter of if Serrano has... kind of figured out
49:51
how to deal with those. Because when she gets
49:53
the cuts and then Taylor starts targeting them.
49:57
Yeah. It just looks worse optically. It's grimy
50:01
and it's kind of a dirty way of fighting. I don't
50:04
really like it. Yeah. I would like for Taylor
50:08
to get her comeuppance. Yeah. I think Toronto
50:13
will get it done this time. Yeah. Hopefully.
50:21
The only way that this card would be better is
50:23
if it had Gabi Pandora. Oh, shit. That would
50:28
have been really sad. That would be a lot. That
50:32
would be... The way Shinata put it on Boxing
50:34
Before Dark was like, this is the... Fucking...
50:39
What is it? All of the good women's fights are
50:42
on this card. And now we're not going to have
50:44
it for like six months. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
50:53
It's like Jake's the turkey all chic for the
50:55
women. Yeah, all of them are on here. I will
50:58
say this though, I think it probably wouldn't
51:01
be a good idea for Gabby from the world of hot
51:03
promotional companies to go to MVP. Yeah, Jake's
51:08
taking care of them. Yeah, he's doing a pretty
51:11
good job too. Absolutely. From his promotional,
51:14
like purely from his promotional standing. He's
51:19
done incredible work for boxing. I mean, especially
51:21
Amanda Serrano and Katie Taylor, they've reached
51:24
a new level under his promotion to MVP. It's
51:29
really nice to see. Yeah. Hasn't been this much
51:33
buzz for a female fighter since probably the
51:34
coal miner's daughter. Yeah. It's been real nice,
51:39
man. And the Katie Taylor fight and Amanda Serrano
51:41
fight, this trilogy has been really, really good.
51:44
Yeah. It's definitely the best trilogy for women.
51:48
Yeah, that I can remember, yeah. Yeah, that's
51:53
something I say about Jake Paul. As much of a
51:56
clown as he is in promoting his own fights, when
51:59
it comes to promoting other people's fights,
52:02
he's a fucking solid businessman. He's doing
52:06
great work with Serrano. I'd like to see him
52:09
try to do the same for some of the smaller weight
52:11
classes on the men's side. Just because they
52:15
don't get a lot of love either. That would be
52:18
a lot harder to do. Probably. That's possible.
52:24
I wonder of how Christy Martin has, like, how
52:28
she's reacted to MVP. I wonder if she, like,
52:32
supports it, you know? You know what I mean?
52:35
I'd like to see Holly Holm come over to MVP.
52:40
Not with MVP? No. Wait. No, no. Oh, wait. She
52:44
was on the card, right? That was a Golden Boy
52:47
card, wasn't it? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe
52:52
it's both. But I don't think she's with MVP.
52:59
I'll look into it because I'm curious. Anything
53:05
more for the ladies card? Solid event. No, that's
53:13
all I got. Yeah, it's not a bad Friday night.
53:15
If you're not doing anything else, this is a
53:17
good one to watch. Fantastic appetizer. For Riyadh,
53:25
the ring three at the Louis Armstrong Stadium
53:31
in Central Park, New York. I don't have the exact
53:39
running order. But all the fights that I have
53:43
listed here are all pretty solid and worth stopping
53:47
to talk about. So first, why, Alex, do you have
53:52
Hamza Shiraz beating the shit out of Edgar Berlingo?
53:55
What? I know you love Shiraz. What? Dude, that's
53:59
crazy. That's crazy whatever said it to me. That
54:01
is crazy. Okay, this is bait. This is such bait
54:05
here. I'm going to fall for it. I'm going to
54:07
fall for it. Of course it's bait. I'll tell you
54:09
this. Ooh, I don't want to say this because I
54:14
don't want to please the Brit fighters. Or not
54:16
Brit fighters, but the Brit fans because I've
54:18
been talking a lot of shit about them. Let me
54:21
tell you this, okay? Hamza is ass, but this whole
54:26
fight is going to go down to who's more ass,
54:28
you know? The battle of ass. Yeah, the battle
54:33
of ass. The ass battle. Bumlonga or fucking Shiraz,
54:36
you know? And the thing is, I want Bumlonga to
54:40
win. I want Berlanga to win so bad just to see
54:43
Turkey's face just melt down, you know? We need
54:48
the Saudi invasion to end. We cannot have Hamza
54:51
Shiraz fighting Canelo next. We need something
54:55
better than that. I'd much rather watch a Bubing
54:57
fight with Canelo than a Shiraz fight with Canelo.
54:59
What about Mbili? I would love to see that too.
55:04
I would love to see that too. That is like a
55:06
real contender, I guess. But I, I, I, you guys
55:10
know that I've been on the Shiraz. Hate train.
55:12
Andy Shiraz train. Yeah. Andy Shiraz train for,
55:15
for a while, dude. I mean, again, he's not a
55:18
bad fighter. I just don't like the amount of
55:20
push he's been giving or he's been getting, you
55:23
know, and the fact that he's got a Canelo, Canelo
55:25
fight lined up pissed me off, you know? Yeah.
55:29
I will say. Second fight, second fight at 168.
55:32
I mean, come on. Crazy. Yeah. I also don't like
55:37
Edgar Berlanga. A lot of it is his old shtick.
55:41
The man celebrated like he won undisputed after
55:45
losing to Canelo. He was in the streets with
55:49
a whole car parade. I don't like Berlanga, but
55:54
we do need him to win here. If Shiraz wins, the
55:58
Canelo fight is pretty much locked up. And I
56:03
say this as someone that is an ex -Shiraz supporter.
56:05
After he let me down versus Carlos Adames, I
56:09
had to hop off the train. I know there's the
56:11
whole thing with his, you know, the injury in
56:15
his hand. But I just cannot support. And I really
56:18
don't want this kind of fight to happen. But,
56:21
yeah, man, I hope Berlanga can get it done. Yeah,
56:28
I mean, we'll see. We'll see. The thing with
56:32
Berlanga, too, is that if he can just go in there
56:35
and just fight him in the pocket, you know, just
56:38
get in there and just be nasty with him. Smart
56:41
but nasty, you know what I mean? If he can do
56:43
that, I think he'd win. He has to make him uncomfortable,
56:47
yeah. Exactly, yeah. And the thing is, we also
56:49
don't know how Shiraz's power goes up to 168,
56:52
and we also don't know how his chin transfers
56:54
up to 168, because he's been down before. His
56:56
brother's been down before. I don't even think
56:59
it was 168, I think it was 154, right? I don't
57:03
remember exactly what way. But Ammo Williams
57:04
also hurt him bad. Yeah, and he's not really
57:07
known as a power puncher, Ammo Williams. No?
57:10
Yeah, I mean, he hurt him bad. But that's what
57:12
I'm saying. It's possible. I mean, I will say
57:17
this. We've seen photos of Shiraz standing next
57:20
to the likes of Bivol. He's bigger than Bivol
57:24
by a decent margin. He is tall. We'll see more
57:27
when we get to the face -offs. But, yeah, I mean,
57:32
just the fact that he's been knocked down at
57:33
those lower weights, I feel like I just got to
57:35
go Berlanga. But it's just, I mean, Berlanga
57:39
could also just completely shit the bed. But
57:42
we'll see. We'll see. I will guarantee you this,
57:46
though, that Berlanga is going to get knocked
57:47
down once. I can almost guarantee that. It's
57:50
possible. And then I'm also going to guarantee
57:52
when he gets knocked, he's going to smack his
57:53
hands together and get back up. Yeah, he always
57:55
does it. He always does that shit, yeah. He's
57:58
going to get back up and fight. We'll see. We'll
58:01
see how bad he gets rocked. You know? His recovery
58:03
is pretty nice, yeah. Like, he... Whenever Canelo
58:06
knocked him down with that hook, like, I mean,
58:09
he immediately, like you said, he slapped his
58:10
hands and then immediately got back up. His recovery
58:12
is pretty nice. Well, I mean, we'll see what
58:15
happens. I mean, he's definitely... For as long
58:17
as a weight bully himself. And I can't believe
58:20
I'm rooting for a weight bully like him. But,
58:22
man, I just... I can't have Baxter Ross, dude.
58:25
Just the love he gets, you know? I'm not trying
58:28
to be a hater. Well, I don't know. I just think
58:34
that the fact that he's getting a Canelo, the
58:36
route to Canelo, when he had a perfect... He
58:39
could have fought anybody else at 160. He could
58:41
have stayed at 165. Jannebeck, he ducked him.
58:44
Fought Carlos Adamas for an easy title, quote
58:46
-unquote. He lost to him. I mean, come on. The
58:50
hand... Do you guys really believe the hand injury,
58:52
too? Do you guys really believe that? Yeah, me
58:54
neither. I mean, there was nothing... He looked
58:57
different, but we didn't really see any follow
58:59
-up after that. Oh, yeah. I doubt it was a hand
59:03
injury. I think that's an old excuse in the boxing
59:07
book. If you really wanted to prove it, he could
59:10
have just rematched Adonis. If it really was
59:15
a hand injury, then rematch and beat him. Exactly.
59:18
But he knows that he's going to get that fight
59:21
with Canelo. They signed Canelo, I think, Did
59:26
they sign Canelo after the last contract or before?
59:28
I don't know. After what? Did they sign Canelo
59:33
after or before February? The February card.
59:39
After, I think. I think we... Yeah, we had heard
59:43
rumors about it, but I don't think anything was
59:44
said until after. Because I feel like... I just
59:49
got a theory that Shiraz moved up just purely
59:52
because they want... They want him to fight Canelo.
59:56
That's the thing. I have this big theory, dude.
1:00:01
I have this big, grand theory of how Canelo's
1:00:03
four -fight deal is going to play out. He's going
1:00:06
to beat Crawford, quote -unquote, on the cards.
1:00:09
And then he's going to fight Shiraz if Shiraz
1:00:11
wins. Even if he doesn't win, he might still
1:00:13
get the fight. But he's going to fight Shiraz.
1:00:15
That's going to go to the cards for sure. And
1:00:18
they're going to give Shiraz the titles. You
1:00:21
guys saw, like, Turkey. I thought when I first
1:00:23
saw this, I was like, oh, this is, you know,
1:00:26
someone from Reddit or someone online on Twitter
1:00:27
is just, like, making a joke. But this was, like,
1:00:30
actually real. This happened. Turkey Al -Ashiq
1:00:34
put a tweet out saying that he would be very
1:00:37
disappointed if Shiraz and Shakur lost because
1:00:40
that would mess up his plans. He made a tweet
1:00:43
saying that. I remember that. Clear favoritism.
1:00:49
towards certain results. I mean, it's astounding
1:00:51
that he would even consider posting that because
1:00:54
it's, it's just, if I'm trying to, like, you
1:00:58
know, if I have favoritism, that's okay and everything,
1:01:00
but I'm not going to put it out there for everyone
1:01:01
to see it. I mean, that's crazy. I don't know,
1:01:04
yeah. That's the thing, Berlanga really needs
1:01:06
to, there's no way Berlanga can get one of the
1:01:08
cards. He needs to knock them out. He absolutely
1:01:11
needs to knock them out. Yeah. Even if it's a
1:01:13
shot, even if it's a masterclass, like, her level
1:01:15
fighting, you know, in the pocket and, you know,
1:01:18
Fucking Floyd Mayweather type fucking role. I'll
1:01:22
tell you, dude, he's still going to lose unless
1:01:24
he knocks him out. Yeah, dude, I put Berlanga
1:01:28
down by KO. Hopefully it happens, but we'll see.
1:01:31
Yeah. And if it doesn't happen, oh my God. They're
1:01:35
going to, I already know on the server, they're
1:01:36
going to be talking about. Dude, it's over for
1:01:39
us all. If that doesn't, it's over for us. My
1:01:42
reputation's on the line, dude. Yeah, you are
1:01:45
more like, I'm going to get grilled a little
1:01:47
bit, but you're going to get crucified. You're
1:01:48
an evangelist for anti -charades. You're going
1:01:51
to get crucified. I'm going to get cream -piped
1:01:54
by everybody. That's pretty good. Yeah, it's
1:01:56
bad. That's going to be horrible, dude. I have
1:02:00
to pay some music. In the pick league, I put
1:02:02
draw. Because I don't want either of them to
1:02:05
win. That's valid. That's valid. His last fight
1:02:11
was a draw. You know who's wasn't a draw? David
1:02:16
Murrell. I think this is a big get back for my
1:02:20
man here. Versus Imam Kataev. Looked into this
1:02:26
guy's record. He's 10 and 0. I think it's all
1:02:31
knockouts. It's either 9 or 10 knockouts. But
1:02:34
he's never fought outside of Eastern Europe.
1:02:40
This is a get -back with a guy who looks like
1:02:43
a puncher on paper. Yeah. I remember hearing
1:02:47
about him, Kotev, some time ago, but nothing
1:02:52
really came from it. I remember there was some
1:02:56
hype behind him a few years ago. But like you
1:03:00
said, he hasn't really done much, but this is
1:03:03
his first big fight. Yeah. I think Morel is going
1:03:08
to get it done. He looked really good. I mean,
1:03:10
we knew, or we knew, like, going into the Benavidez
1:03:13
fight in real, we had seen him before. He was
1:03:18
a devastating puncher, like a new -gen Cuban.
1:03:20
But it was, you know, he's sort of early for
1:03:22
him. And we saw, I mean, he sort of got outclassed
1:03:25
by Benavidez. But I think he'll take that experience.
1:03:29
Yeah, I think he'll take that experience with
1:03:30
Benavidez. And hopefully he's been in the lab
1:03:33
working on his skills, his craft, and he can
1:03:36
get this win done or down. I don't think it's
1:03:41
going to be an easy fight. I think he's going
1:03:43
to take his time. I think he's going to get a
1:03:48
late stoppage. He's going to get a late stoppage
1:03:50
for sure. Yeah, I think he has to be careful
1:03:53
in this fight still. From what I remember, back
1:03:57
when Kotev's hype was sort of high, he was decent.
1:04:03
So you've got to be careful with these Russian
1:04:05
dudes. Oh yeah, I have a span. Yeah. Gotta be
1:04:09
very careful. They will fuck up a hype train.
1:04:12
That's like the... What's the word? That's the
1:04:18
point where that determines your worth as a fighter.
1:04:21
Can you beat him? Can you beat him decisively?
1:04:24
Or will you lose? Virgil crossed that line. I
1:04:28
gotta throw him in there. Virgil crossed that
1:04:30
line. He passed the test. Hopefully Morel's passed
1:04:33
that test too. Yeah, we'll see how he comes back.
1:04:39
From his first loss. He should be fine. Moving
1:04:45
up. Alberto Puello versus Gabriel Matias. The
1:04:50
WBC Super Lightweight Championship on the line
1:04:55
here. Puello is the champ. Matias is coming in
1:04:57
rated 8th. I guess he ditched the IBF. Too many
1:05:03
final eliminators. But this is a wild fight.
1:05:07
Yeah, this is. This is interesting, man. I gotta
1:05:11
say. Matias, he still has his... Actually, I
1:05:15
was about to ask if he still has his 100 % KO
1:05:18
ratio, but I saw it posted earlier today. We
1:05:22
know Matias has some serious power. What? Pueyo
1:05:26
has that. I mean, he's like this super long range
1:05:30
fighter. His arms are really long, if I remember
1:05:31
correctly. So it's gonna be interesting. Yeah,
1:05:35
I'm gonna be... This is definitely one of the
1:05:37
fights to watch. We're hoping it'll be good,
1:05:40
but we know Matias is going to... I mean, he
1:05:42
goes out there to put people down. So, yeah.
1:05:46
I think it'll be fun to watch. I will say it's
1:05:48
either going to be a really exciting fight or
1:05:50
a really boring fight. Yeah. Yeah, it could just
1:05:52
be at distance the entire fight. Oh, yeah. Because
1:05:57
it could be likely on Paro. It could be like
1:06:00
that type of performance that Matias has. Or
1:06:03
he just knocks him out. Yeah, I don't know. I
1:06:07
feel like it's either there's two ways I could
1:06:10
say going. A Pueo decision or Matias knockout.
1:06:15
You know? Because Matias is not so much a crafty
1:06:18
fighter. Like, not crafty. What's the word? He
1:06:23
doesn't get decisions, you know? Yeah, I mean,
1:06:28
he's purely going in there to, like, dominate
1:06:32
his opponent and get him out of there. Yeah.
1:06:35
I wish it is. I did think that Boyo lost his
1:06:39
last fight against Sandor Martin. But, I mean,
1:06:44
he got the win. We'll see. Normally, boxing has
1:06:47
a way when, like, we saw it in the Conceição
1:06:50
versus Foster fight. Whenever Conceição, he took
1:06:53
the belt from Oshaki Foster, which a lot of people
1:06:57
thought it was a robbery in the first fight.
1:06:58
But then in the second fight, in the rematch,
1:07:00
it was the opposite way where everyone thought
1:07:03
Conceição. uh won the fight but it went to foster
1:07:06
so that boxing has this weird way of like sort
1:07:09
of getting you back like you get you get the
1:07:11
the fight you deserve normally uh we'll see we'll
1:07:16
see what happens whale's not going to be protected
1:07:19
by the pbc this time around so i think if even
1:07:23
if it goes to decision you know we never know
1:07:25
this is a tough fight in my opinion this is kind
1:07:27
of hard to tell yeah yeah i'm not i'm not super
1:07:31
sure either way It's a classic boxer versus puncher.
1:07:35
Yeah. It's a very good matchmaking. This card's
1:07:39
nice. It's a fight that I wouldn't even think
1:07:41
that would have gotten made, you know? It was
1:07:44
random. This is probably one of the most random
1:07:46
fights of the year. I mean, it's a good fight.
1:07:48
No doubt about it, I think. But it's just random.
1:07:53
I get the feeling that Pueyo has what it takes
1:07:56
to win. Because Matias has been beaten. in a
1:08:00
way that does fit in Pueyo's wheelhouse. So that's
1:08:04
why I'm kind of leaning towards Pueyo. But Matias
1:08:08
is a machine. That's not somebody I would want
1:08:12
across the ring for me. He's scary, yeah. Yeah.
1:08:22
And last, moving up to Shakur Stevenson. versus
1:08:27
William Zepeda. They're consolidating the WBC
1:08:29
lightweight title. What round does Shakur hurt
1:08:37
his hand and then the fight becomes competitive?
1:08:43
Man, I know some people were... I've seen very
1:08:48
few people... It is out there. The time Zepeda's
1:08:51
going to finish Shakur, but man, I... I just
1:08:53
feel like this is going to be a domination by
1:08:55
Shakur. Zepeda, what we saw in that farmer fight,
1:09:00
was not convincing to me at all. Maybe prior
1:09:03
to those two fights, I could have been persuaded
1:09:06
that Zepeda has a chance, as I'm sure Saul will
1:09:09
try to convince us soon. But I just feel like
1:09:14
Shakur, just purely the eye test, a way, way
1:09:18
better boxer. Outside of a fluke punch. that
1:09:23
Shakur doesn't see, which, I mean, we know his
1:09:24
defense is rock solid, so very unlikely. But
1:09:26
outside of that, I think he just goes to, like,
1:09:29
a pretty wide, unanimous decision. Yeah. I don't
1:09:37
know if I want to start, but... Yeah, go ahead.
1:09:40
I'm going to put a disclaimer out there, because
1:09:42
I agree with everything Isaac said. I honestly
1:09:44
think Shakur's going to win. Like, 100%. Like,
1:09:48
well, not 100%. I think, like, 98 % sure that
1:09:51
he's going to win. Because there's got to go
1:09:54
to the car, sure. If, you know, the pay doesn't
1:09:59
fight correctly. But I'll get to that right now.
1:10:02
But I just want to put out there, I think Shakur
1:10:04
is winning the fight. However, there's way too
1:10:09
many, like, Shakur glazers to where I have to
1:10:11
fucking, I have to be the evil, I have to be
1:10:14
the evil opinion. You know, I have to say, like,
1:10:17
I have to kind of... I think you're good. I mean,
1:10:46
hey. Hey. I'll tell you this, too. This guy,
1:10:50
this is his only shining light in this fight
1:10:54
is that he's got a shit ton of volume. A whole
1:10:59
bunch of volume. He's going to be throwing no
1:11:00
matter what. And the thing is that Shakur, from
1:11:03
what we know, doesn't have much power. And I
1:11:08
don't know. I just feel like if he could just
1:11:10
overload Shakur this crazy amount, he just doesn't
1:11:14
care about... whatever's coming back to him.
1:11:17
I think you can maybe hurt him once and possibly
1:11:22
even get the knockout. Never know. And the thing
1:11:25
is that Shakur's chin has also never been tested.
1:11:28
Can we agree on that? Is that agreeable? Yeah,
1:11:32
I think so. I'm trying to think. I don't recall
1:11:36
a time he's been caught, really. And also, they're
1:11:39
also the same height, too. And I think they have
1:11:42
similar reach as well. I don't know if that's
1:11:48
correct. Shakur is a 68 reach. Zepeda, 69 and
1:11:55
a half. Oh, so he has a long reach. There you
1:11:58
go. There's that, right, guys? I mean, come on.
1:12:01
It's not like it's going to be like a baby in
1:12:05
a hydrogen bomb, you know? I mean, I feel like,
1:12:10
I just feel like, you know, Zepeda has a chance.
1:12:13
And I'm going to be rooting for him. As much
1:12:15
as I want to see Shakur fight Tank, I think it's
1:12:18
more possible if Shakur loses this fight. To
1:12:22
fight Tank, you know? There's that. There's that
1:12:24
too. This is hard. This is really hard. I can't.
1:12:28
I don't know. I just think there's a possibility.
1:12:32
And I'm rooting for Sabita. I mean, if he can
1:12:37
get Shakur out, that would be funny as hell.
1:12:39
That would be funny as hell. Come on. I mean,
1:12:45
that would genuinely, like, boxing Twitter would
1:12:51
be insane if Zepeda was the one to beat Shakur.
1:12:55
It would be, I mean, that'd be probably one of
1:12:58
the biggest upsets this year in boxing if that
1:13:01
were to actually happen. But I just think it's
1:13:03
one of these things, it's a possibility I'm not
1:13:06
even considering, to be honest. But, I mean,
1:13:09
we'll see. Boxing has a way of humbling the fans
1:13:11
at that time. I mean, hey, we didn't think Roche
1:13:15
was going to win against Hank. I mean, he didn't
1:13:17
win, but he won in our eyes. So, I mean, there's
1:13:23
always that chance. I know the debate is not
1:13:25
a skill, but, man, that volume. If he can overwhelm
1:13:29
Shakur from a distance, I mean, the punch is
1:13:33
not going to stop. I'll tell you that. The pain
1:13:35
is going to bring the fight. And if it's really
1:13:38
true what they said about... The shrinking ring,
1:13:42
I don't know if that's bad. Oh, that's bullshit.
1:13:45
I don't know if that's bullshit or not, but I
1:13:48
will say, if that's real, then Zepeda has got
1:13:51
a real shot there. You know? Well, I never know.
1:13:56
Big if, yeah, it's a big if. The thing is, I
1:13:58
do want Zepeda to win. I really do. Oof. I'm
1:14:08
sold. I'm changing my pick. No, that's crazy.
1:14:10
I didn't sell for sure. I didn't sell myself.
1:14:13
I didn't sell myself. That was hard as hell.
1:14:15
It was way easier to make a Floyd Schofield.
1:14:18
I remember when they were going to fight, Floyd
1:14:21
Schofield and Shakur. No, this was hard. That
1:14:23
was kind of rough. Because even I myself don't
1:14:27
even believe it. But I do want to pay her to
1:14:29
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That would be the funniest thing to see. Yeah.
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Woof. That's it. Anything more for the... This
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Let's go, Floyd. Let's go. I think boxing's coming
1:16:24
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join us in the server. Very good time. Just some
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