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Actor on "The Game" reboot on Paramount Plus Vaughn Hebron talks Tyler Perry, Wendy Raquel Robinson and more! · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. My guest today is von Hebron.
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Speaker 1: He is the Careers on fire. If you have a
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Speaker 1: a fan. I'm just put it out front. I'm a
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Speaker 1: big fan of his from jump. Let me get all
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Speaker 1: the credits so we can start talking. I noticed his talents,
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Speaker 1: so for the first time, Tyler Prayer is the Oval.
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Speaker 1: That's when he came into my life that first season.
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Speaker 1: But it does not stop there. He's appearing right now
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Speaker 1: Will Smith new movie Keen Richards. He's also the Devil
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Speaker 1: Know you're coming out in opposite My Boys on My
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Speaker 1: ELPs and Michael Eally who also been on my show.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about vonge new lead role and they
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Speaker 1: sent me some clips on your bones, so we're gonna
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Speaker 1: talk about that. You're surprised in the game. Everybody knows
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Speaker 1: the Game Serious Revival out on Paramount Plus. The show
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Speaker 1: premiered on Paramount Plus on Novever eleven of this year.
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Speaker 1: He'll be talking about his rising career, his journey uh
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Speaker 1: pivot him from a corporate life pursuing his acting in
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Speaker 1: his dream. And that's what we really want to talk about,
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Speaker 1: that making that leap. But all people talking about making
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Speaker 1: a leap of faith following their passion. But he did it,
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Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk about that because it always comes
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Speaker 1: with consequences that we can't control, but it's all positive
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Speaker 1: because you live in your dream and getting rolled successfully
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Speaker 1: in such a short period of time. What he has learned,
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Speaker 1: what's been an integral, integral part to his success on
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Speaker 1: his own journey this thus far, please walk into money
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Speaker 1: making conversation, Vaughan hebron. I appreciate you being man. Well.
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Speaker 1: First of all, um, let's part where are you from? Vaughan,
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Speaker 1: Where are you from? Originally boughtom of Maryland. Huh really
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Speaker 1: brought him in Maryland, and Uh, I went to high
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Speaker 1: school in Pennsylvania and the college at Lafia College, Pennsylvania
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Speaker 1: before I started traveling. Uh. In my pharmaceutical career, Okay, pharmaceuticals.
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Speaker 1: So that was a professional way of saying you were
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Speaker 1: selling drugs for a living. Oh yeah, I was professional
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Speaker 1: dope dealing because okay, you go, and nothing wrong with
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Speaker 1: that because the people do it for real, and that
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Speaker 1: people do it on the streets, and people in the streets,
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Speaker 1: those people get in Trump now use out there now
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Speaker 1: that I have a couple of friends about who were
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Speaker 1: professional pharmaceutical sale people and they make a good living.
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Speaker 1: They enjoy their life, drive nice cars, nice houses, vaun Okay, okay,
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Speaker 1: I'm assuming you can look at guy articulate, kind of
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Speaker 1: nice shape. You're probably have there being very successful, weren't you,
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Speaker 1: thank Yeah, man, I mean, you know, having it was
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Speaker 1: my first real job out of college. Um, you know,
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Speaker 1: and your your mid twenties having a pharmaceutical job. You know,
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Speaker 1: things are getting paid for, checks are coming in, You're
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Speaker 1: living a good life. So it was definitely a career
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Speaker 1: that my parents are proud of and that everybody from
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Speaker 1: the outside looking in just thought, hey, you already made
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Speaker 1: it at such an early time of your life, which
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Speaker 1: was even more of course interested when I shifted and
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Speaker 1: left that and go into acting. But uh, to your point,
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Speaker 1: most definitely it's it's a great career, and um, I
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Speaker 1: will go back to it if I wasn't happy what
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Speaker 1: I'm doing. Well, you know that that's really interesting because
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Speaker 1: the offer I was just telling you like that happened
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Speaker 1: to me. You know. I was my degrees in mathematics,
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Speaker 1: my miners, and sociology, graduated from University of Houston and Houston, Texas,
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Speaker 1: and got a job at IBM. In fact, I was
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Speaker 1: working with IBM two and a half years part time
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Speaker 1: before I, you know, send it to a full time opportunity.
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Speaker 1: Had the car, had their apartment, had the social life,
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Speaker 1: all that good stuff, all those boxes, all those boxes.
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Speaker 1: But I wasn't satisfied because from a creative standpoint, I wasn't.
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Speaker 1: I would never say I was not happy because the
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Speaker 1: best time in my life. I still live off those
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Speaker 1: life of experiences. But something was missing though on what
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Speaker 1: was missing? When you because you did all the right
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Speaker 1: thing I checked, check check what was missing? I think
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Speaker 1: for me, what was I know for me, what was
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Speaker 1: missing was the the feeling that I was actually accomplishing
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Speaker 1: something for myself, right, the feeling that I was uh
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Speaker 1: making myself happy before others that I was, That I
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Speaker 1: was accomplishing things because I wanted to do it, opposed
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Speaker 1: to just you know, the societal standards of making money,
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Speaker 1: getting a resume, um having this position, that position. It
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Speaker 1: was like when I stepped back and said that, am
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Speaker 1: I really happy hanging my hat on this besides everybody
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Speaker 1: else's Is this what I want to say that I'm doing?
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Speaker 1: I couldn't say that. You know, I was going through emotions.
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Speaker 1: I was going through my emotions. I was looking for
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Speaker 1: another reason to get out of bed every morning besides
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Speaker 1: just just fulfilling these certain duties that look good on
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Speaker 1: paper and they look good by societal standards. Right. Well,
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Speaker 1: you know, it's really interesting when I when I bring
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Speaker 1: guests like you on on money making conversation, because a
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Speaker 1: lot of people they wait to a certain point in
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Speaker 1: life where they make a decision. And maybe I always
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Speaker 1: took you There's no excuse, would never be an excuse.
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Speaker 1: And then like when I left IBM. I made that
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Speaker 1: decision a year in advance, and and I and I
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Speaker 1: was and I would tell people on the show. I've
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Speaker 1: said many time, I was brought to tears by that
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Speaker 1: decision because it was such a tough decision because I
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Speaker 1: wasn't sure, but I know, if I wanted to be
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Speaker 1: happy long term, I didn't want to look back years
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Speaker 1: and go, what if? What was that decision making process
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Speaker 1: to with you Von, you know, to which is led
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Speaker 1: to the oval, which has led to the game, which
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Speaker 1: has led to so many other opportunities we're gonna talk about.
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Speaker 1: But what really because it was nothing out that that
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Speaker 1: guaranteed you, because that was a guaranteed help benefits, guaranteed check,
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Speaker 1: guarfree ripping and pay. It came every week, fifth of
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Speaker 1: the twice a month, it came. It was the stability,
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Speaker 1: and it was it was the stability. It was, you know,
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Speaker 1: a very stable, safe environment that you're in. And I
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Speaker 1: guess the process for me was first realizing that I
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Speaker 1: wasn't fulfilled, you know. And I think a lot of
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Speaker 1: people actually feeled it sometimes and they struggled with it.
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Speaker 1: They may not be able to put their finger on
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Speaker 1: what it is, but it's the feeling of I'm not
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Speaker 1: I'm I happy for myself. I'm not um fulfilling my potential.
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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm getting up every day because I have to,
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Speaker 1: not because I want to. And I think understanding and
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Speaker 1: being aware of that first and foremost once. If you
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Speaker 1: have that awareness, then you can start making decisions from there,
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Speaker 1: and you know, understanding why you feel that way, understanding
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Speaker 1: how you can change that way, and then starting yourself
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Speaker 1: on the course um to change your life. So for me,
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Speaker 1: it was again understanding one day that you know, I
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Speaker 1: wasn't happy, and then starting to think of other things
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Speaker 1: that what made me happy. Understanding my passions, Understanding things
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Speaker 1: that I like to do when nobody's paying me to
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Speaker 1: do it, when nobody's forcing me to do it, what
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Speaker 1: do I find myself doing? And that's where I started
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Speaker 1: to draw, you know, eventually got into acting classes because
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Speaker 1: I've always loved movies, I've always loved television. Nobody ever
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Speaker 1: had to make me do that, and nobody that I'll
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Speaker 1: be on the TV watching my television all day, you know.
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Speaker 1: So it was it was first understanding that and that's
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Speaker 1: what led me to the course of actions that got
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Speaker 1: me eventually here we were talking to Van Hebron. He
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Speaker 1: starved a new series on Paramount Plus streaming the game. Uh,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna I want to jump a little bit of
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Speaker 1: heare because now this is a lead role. So this
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Speaker 1: is all about you, you know, because you you know,
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Speaker 1: they a lot of more pressure, you know about it.
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Speaker 1: And obviously they've sent me up sizzle cut sampling and
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Speaker 1: I got that met Man, you look like you really
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Speaker 1: can play the game with football. You really, I would
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Speaker 1: tell you so, man, you know, because you know, I
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Speaker 1: like when I was I've been and uh when I
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Speaker 1: did when I was co executive of the Jamie Foxx
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Speaker 1: Show way back when when he did uh, you know
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Speaker 1: the movie with Appuccino the Football, but when he played
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Speaker 1: the quarterback. You know, he got in shape, man, and
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Speaker 1: he and he played that role. That was actually the
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Speaker 1: role that the launched his career, especially as a dramatic actor,
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Speaker 1: because he was only names known as a comedian. And
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Speaker 1: when you go back and they throw that ball to
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Speaker 1: you and you catching you running man down the sideline
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Speaker 1: like a like a like a professional wilde receiver. Talk
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Speaker 1: about the reality of being able to say I want
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Speaker 1: people to feel I can actually play this in real
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Speaker 1: life too, if he was given the opportunity. Because man,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something, I was impressed by your
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Speaker 1: your where you adapted the role and also where you
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Speaker 1: fined you. You actually I could actually see you catching
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Speaker 1: a ball from Kylin Murray from Arizona Carner. I could
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Speaker 1: actually believe that. Talk about that experience. Well, for me,
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Speaker 1: it was UM. I was very adamant about doing my
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Speaker 1: own stunts for this role. I was very adamant about
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Speaker 1: having me in there as much as possible to not
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Speaker 1: only sell Um Jamison feels being that character, being that guy,
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Speaker 1: but also to you know, give myself a chance to
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Speaker 1: realize my potential. I haven't played um college football all
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Speaker 1: thee since, like you know, two thousand thirteen. But I'm
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Speaker 1: somebody who stays in shape. I'm somebody who always active.
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Speaker 1: And these are the roles that I worked for, These
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Speaker 1: are the roles that I trained so hard for. So
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Speaker 1: I was not going to let a stunt double get
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Speaker 1: in there and just you know, do all the work.
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Speaker 1: I said, put me in as much as possible and
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Speaker 1: in that environment. Honestly, honestly, I forgot I was acting.
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Speaker 1: Honestly that I was acting. It was it felt like
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Speaker 1: like being back on the field. The pressure, the nerves,
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Speaker 1: the being the star on the field, being that guy.
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Speaker 1: It was everything that I had grown accustomed to and
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Speaker 1: had experience with. So for me, it was an easy
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Speaker 1: transition just to bring all of that pressure, all the
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Speaker 1: nerves into the scene, into these moments and really show up.
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Speaker 1: Uh So it was it was I will tell you
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Speaker 1: before we started having fun with the Oval because it
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Speaker 1: just then, Okay, I remember when all Shiny Hall called me.
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Speaker 1: I was driving in l A, okay, and this is
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Speaker 1: him when he was a city or Hall. Okay, and uh,
19:04
Speaker 1: I went, okay, I actually hung up on that's to
19:07
Speaker 1: do stop this, stop to stop, stop stop playing with me,
19:09
Speaker 1: and I hug up the phone on he come Hey man,
19:11
Speaker 1: this is just really or senior Okay, that's okay, cool.
19:14
Speaker 1: And you know those moments, man, when people at that
19:19
Speaker 1: statue and believe me, Tyler Perry way bigger than our
19:22
Speaker 1: senior Hall. So that's why I gotta slow him down. See,
19:25
Speaker 1: people like Vaughn, they missed the moment because it happened.
19:29
Speaker 1: But she it's a blessing because Tyler does this all
19:32
Speaker 1: the time. And I laughed with him because he had
19:34
Speaker 1: called people up and had these regular conversations. And then
19:37
Speaker 1: on the other end of the phone, they're hard jumping
19:39
Speaker 1: out their chests, they mind screaming. I can't believe this.
19:42
Speaker 1: They're trying to go where it's just gonna go with offer.
19:46
Speaker 1: I made it. Talk about that emotion, Vaughn. When Tyler
19:49
Speaker 1: Perry called you, you broke the reality that it was
19:53
Speaker 1: Tyler Perry, and then you broke down into this casual
19:56
Speaker 1: conversation you're talking about, right right. I mean, first of all, right,
20:01
Speaker 1: so first of all, I got it heads up that
20:03
Speaker 1: Tyler has spotted me. You know, one of the gas
20:06
Speaker 1: makes text me and say, hey, um, Tyler asked about you.
20:09
Speaker 1: I gave him your number. I hope that's okay. And
20:12
Speaker 1: I'm right, of course that's okay. But you know, you know,
20:15
Speaker 1: when you when you hear stuff like that, you're thinking,
20:19
Speaker 1: this may or may not turn into something. He's not
20:21
Speaker 1: gonna he's not He's for sure not directly gonna contact me.
20:26
Speaker 1: And if anybody ever contacts me on behalf of him,
20:29
Speaker 1: it's gonna be six months from now and years and
20:31
Speaker 1: now or whatever. And so it was literally two minutes
20:34
Speaker 1: later that I see a four or four number pop up,
20:38
Speaker 1: and I'm like, this can't be him. And as soon
20:41
Speaker 1: as I answered the phone, I know his voice. I
20:44
Speaker 1: knew his voice, and I'm stuttering, um um, I'm thinking
20:51
Speaker 1: there is no possible way that he's calling me. And
20:55
Speaker 1: I know he's calling me. I'm know I'm talking to him,
20:57
Speaker 1: but this is not real, this is not happening. This
21:01
Speaker 1: is surreal, um. And I'm just I'm listening. I'm feeling
21:09
Speaker 1: my head right like, what are you doing? What is
21:13
Speaker 1: what is going on right now? I can't be having
21:15
Speaker 1: a conversation with this man after two years of being
21:18
Speaker 1: in l A, moving here for this is that reason,
21:21
Speaker 1: and he's he's now talking to me about acting. It's
21:28
Speaker 1: it's one of those things where you never forget the feeling.
21:31
Speaker 1: But it's like it's so hard to describe because, uh,
21:36
Speaker 1: influx of emotions and you're just all of a sudden,
21:41
Speaker 1: universe just opens up. I can't believe it is right.
21:44
Speaker 1: And so now the how did they all the opportunity
21:47
Speaker 1: for The Oval come about? What did he call you
21:49
Speaker 1: directly for the The Oval series? He had a character
21:52
Speaker 1: and mindful. You had the audition for other characters. So
21:56
Speaker 1: he had the character and mind for me after he
21:58
Speaker 1: saw me. After he saw me, you know, we talked
22:01
Speaker 1: a little bit um introductions and things like that and um,
22:06
Speaker 1: and so that he started talking about the show that
22:09
Speaker 1: he saw him before. He said, I see you do
22:10
Speaker 1: comedy very well. I'm curious if you are a druma actor.
22:15
Speaker 1: And I said, I can't be. I cannot be whatever.
22:21
Speaker 1: Uh he said, well, I'm coming out with this new
22:24
Speaker 1: show right now, and you are you are perfect for
22:27
Speaker 1: this character named Barry, uh, that I that I have
22:30
Speaker 1: on the show. Would you be interested? You know, I
22:37
Speaker 1: gotta play it all. I got pay it up. Yeah,
22:39
Speaker 1: you know, tell me about a little bit side some side,
22:45
Speaker 1: so read to check out the line. Make sure you
22:47
Speaker 1: get my character. You know you know, because I could
22:51
Speaker 1: be you know, I gonna be interested into it. You know,
22:52
Speaker 1: let let me hear about the character a little bit, Tyler,
22:54
Speaker 1: let me hear about the character. Yeah, oh yeah, I
22:59
Speaker 1: was really be interested in auditioning for this right And
23:03
Speaker 1: we're just having a conversation man about the character about
23:05
Speaker 1: the show, because he had been working on it for
23:08
Speaker 1: about two years before he and they were actually in
23:11
Speaker 1: the final stages of casting by the time he got
23:13
Speaker 1: to me. Um, So it happened very fast for me.
23:17
Speaker 1: Other people they've been you know, in line with it
23:19
Speaker 1: for a while. Now the now the character man over
23:24
Speaker 1: the top, man, he hothead. Uh you know, man got
23:32
Speaker 1: a got a child, he got an extramarital or fair
23:36
Speaker 1: Uh what did you when you start seeing that the
23:38
Speaker 1: character descriptions start reading a lot. This is just fun talk,
23:41
Speaker 1: you know, there's no you know, because the series is
23:44
Speaker 1: over the top and it's fun and it's just outrageous.
23:49
Speaker 1: But when did when did you realize this is there's
23:51
Speaker 1: a line between comedy and drama d t you know,
23:54
Speaker 1: because of your your character, because it was so over
23:57
Speaker 1: the top and and you kept making them the stage
24:00
Speaker 1: and you kept wanting people feel sorry for you, you
24:02
Speaker 1: kept second chances and but you when you drove that
24:06
Speaker 1: car through that drug store, I went, he had lost
24:08
Speaker 1: his mind. Up, Pops got shot right. You know? For me,
24:15
Speaker 1: it was it was a definitely it was definitely a
24:17
Speaker 1: learning experience because, um, I I had an interesting time
24:24
Speaker 1: with trying to make all this real because ever since
24:28
Speaker 1: the first episode with Barry, you know, he got accused
24:31
Speaker 1: of rape with the with the with the president's daughter daughter,
24:35
Speaker 1: was kidnapped by a cult leader. Um, he accidentally shot somebody,
24:41
Speaker 1: his girlfriend's cheating on him, and I'm just like, one
24:46
Speaker 1: thing after another another. I have to I'm trying to
24:49
Speaker 1: I'm trying to ground it, Tyler, I'm trying to ground it.
24:51
Speaker 1: And he's just like, you just gotta go for it,
24:55
Speaker 1: go for it, like Ruth. He said, lose your mind mine.
25:00
Speaker 1: So you are trying to make all this work makes sense,
25:02
Speaker 1: you know exactly? He said, you can't make sense of it.
25:05
Speaker 1: He literally said, you can't make sense of it, just
25:07
Speaker 1: lose your mind. And so after that point, at that point,
25:11
Speaker 1: I just became a little monster. Man. I just I
25:15
Speaker 1: love it first of all, and there's no there's no
25:17
Speaker 1: character description of Barry. When I got the audition. There
25:20
Speaker 1: was no character description of it besides Butler's son, right right.
25:23
Speaker 1: I forgot the fact that the President's dog did a
25:26
Speaker 1: keeps your rape. That was the first. That was the
25:28
Speaker 1: first thing that went wrong in your life. And then
25:30
Speaker 1: it just it just kept just rolling down here after that, man,
25:35
Speaker 1: So it was it's something I couldn't make sense of
25:38
Speaker 1: it one he once he told me that. Then it
25:40
Speaker 1: was just you know, you're on green light. You just
25:42
Speaker 1: go a hunting my spotle from that one before we go,
25:44
Speaker 1: I want to talk about a couple of the projects
25:46
Speaker 1: that you have coming up, man, because I want to.
25:47
Speaker 1: I don't want to limit the fact that you know,
25:50
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of Oval, and that's why I
25:51
Speaker 1: discovered you as a fan. I became a fan through
25:54
Speaker 1: that that portal and then you're on the start in
25:57
Speaker 1: the game. But Keen Richards in the theaters right now
26:00
Speaker 1: read an article on uh you know, because it premiered
26:03
Speaker 1: on HBO Max and then they said people a hundred
26:07
Speaker 1: percent of the people watched the movie watched it all
26:09
Speaker 1: the way through, which is a testament to a quality
26:13
Speaker 1: of the movie, because usual people just pop off. You
26:15
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, the hundred. If you whoever started
26:18
Speaker 1: watching that movie completed that movie, talk about that, and
26:21
Speaker 1: then we're gonna slide over to the movie you're doing
26:23
Speaker 1: with on my ELPs and mikea Els coming out next
26:26
Speaker 1: year in two Yes, sir, yes, sir. So you know,
26:29
Speaker 1: first of all, this was my first uh big movie role, um,
26:35
Speaker 1: and it was an opportunity to work with Will and
26:39
Speaker 1: there's there's several people in that cast that I've always
26:41
Speaker 1: been fans of, and so for me, it was just
26:46
Speaker 1: it was another surreal moment, you know, my first movie,
26:50
Speaker 1: to be able to watch Will Smith, to learn from
26:54
Speaker 1: him offset on set, and just um being that environment
26:58
Speaker 1: and being a space that I on to, you know,
27:01
Speaker 1: um aspired to one day. It was it was just
27:04
Speaker 1: nothing but a blessing. And I was watching his work,
27:07
Speaker 1: and I was watching what we were creating on the
27:10
Speaker 1: movie set, and I just knew it was gonna be
27:11
Speaker 1: something that was special. I knew it was gonna be
27:13
Speaker 1: something that was gonna touch people's hearts, that was gonna
27:15
Speaker 1: be a family movie that everybody that anybody can relate to.
27:20
Speaker 1: And and I'm honestly, I'm just blessed to be a
27:23
Speaker 1: part of it. It was a learning experience for me.
27:25
Speaker 1: I was working on it, but I was I'm I'm
27:28
Speaker 1: a fan of it, you know. I'm not just like, yeah,
27:31
Speaker 1: I did it. I'm like, yo, we did something great.
27:34
Speaker 1: They did something, they created something awesome, and I'm just
27:37
Speaker 1: glad I could have been a part of it. And
27:39
Speaker 1: then we're gonna shift gears and go over to the
27:41
Speaker 1: starting opposite. All my ELPs loan career, another brother with
27:44
Speaker 1: a loan career. All went back with him and Juice
27:47
Speaker 1: when he was with Tupac. And then Michael Eally, you know,
27:50
Speaker 1: he did the movie for me with Think Like a Man.
27:52
Speaker 1: Think Like a Man, too, Kevin. That was my project.
27:54
Speaker 1: I was executive producer. So that's what Michael Eally and
27:56
Speaker 1: I developed our relationship. And the movie was entitled The Boot.
28:00
Speaker 1: He's entitled The Devil. You know. Yep uh. It's It's
28:03
Speaker 1: funny because Michael Eally I met him in two thousand
28:06
Speaker 1: and seventeen when I first started acting, and I was
28:09
Speaker 1: doing background at the time, and I walked up straight
28:12
Speaker 1: to him. He was doing background of we were doing
28:14
Speaker 1: but I was doing background of being being Mary Jane,
28:18
Speaker 1: and I walked you up to him. I introduced myself
28:20
Speaker 1: and I sound's gonna be working with you one day.
28:22
Speaker 1: And so uh, four years later we're on set together
28:26
Speaker 1: and the w you know, Ohmar Epps, I mean, he's
28:29
Speaker 1: he's a beast. I learned so much from watching watching him,
28:33
Speaker 1: working with him. I'm the youngest of four brothers in
28:36
Speaker 1: that movie. He's like the third oldest and so playing
28:39
Speaker 1: younger brother to somebody that you've been watching your whole life, um,
28:44
Speaker 1: and being able to go back and forth with them,
28:46
Speaker 1: like have conversation, have this camaraderie. I again, man, just
28:52
Speaker 1: another moment that I was blessed with that I um,
28:57
Speaker 1: I really appreciate. I'm glad I was able to sneak
29:00
Speaker 1: up in that thing and do my and do and
29:02
Speaker 1: and hold my own. You know, it's all learning experience
29:05
Speaker 1: for me. It's all a growing experience for me, and
29:10
Speaker 1: I'm just glad that I'm able to do it at
29:11
Speaker 1: a level with some people who I really admire. Well,
29:14
Speaker 1: you know, I've I've done over a thousand shows Baing
29:19
Speaker 1: and my staff. No, I get excited for very few people.
29:22
Speaker 1: You wanted the people I was excited too to meet
29:26
Speaker 1: through my conversations. Your star brother, you got You got
29:30
Speaker 1: a long career, don't stop, just keep working hard. Uh,
29:34
Speaker 1: you know, God is good, but it's good to even
29:37
Speaker 1: people understand the value of opportunity. It worked hard for
29:41
Speaker 1: you're seeing yourself through. You're not being afraid by uncertainty.
29:45
Speaker 1: That stops a lot of people. But my man, I'm
29:48
Speaker 1: just happy that I finally got the interview bone. I'm
29:51
Speaker 1: sorry it took so long. I'm happy that I was
29:53
Speaker 1: able to do it, and it's been a blessing having
29:57
Speaker 1: like just being here with you, talking to you because
29:59
Speaker 1: you're a legend in your old Thank you for real.
30:02
Speaker 1: Like I was like, no, we gotta make this happen.
30:03
Speaker 1: We gotta make this happen. Somethingad we was able to.
30:06
Speaker 1: We will put it out there. He's the star of
30:08
Speaker 1: the new game, the Game reboot on Paramount Plus. It
30:12
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30:16
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30:20
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