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- 0:04Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's to show that she
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- 0:30Speaker 1: Welcome to my show, money Making Conversation Masterclass. I'm your
- 0:33Speaker 1: host with Sean McDonald. I recognize that we all have
- 0:35Speaker 1: different definitions for success. For you, it may be the
- 0:38Speaker 1: size of your paycheck. Mine has inspired people to develop
- 0:41Speaker 1: a plan to reach their dreams. It's time to stop
- 0:44Speaker 1: reading other people's success stories and start writing your own.
- 0:47Speaker 1: You can only exceed the expectations by believing in yourself.
- 0:50Speaker 1: People always talk about their purpose or gifts. If you
- 0:52Speaker 1: have a gift, lead with your gifts and don't let
- 0:54Speaker 1: your friends, family, or coworkers stop you from planning a
- 0:57Speaker 1: living your dreams. My guess is a Paul Ryan. She's
- 1:01Speaker 1: a White House correspondent, CNN political analysts, DC bureau chief
- 1:05Speaker 1: for The Grio, Arthur and speaker. And her book Black
- 1:08Speaker 1: Women Will Save the World and Anthem. Author Apral Ryan
- 1:12Speaker 1: celebrates black women's resilience and strength, champion those who have
- 1:16Speaker 1: transformed their pain in the progress despite economic, political, and
- 1:19Speaker 1: social challenges. The book celebrates America's founding black women are
- 1:24Speaker 1: mothers as she rose, as well as today's black women
- 1:27Speaker 1: leaders like voting right activists Stacy Abrows, Farmer Atlanta mayor
- 1:32Speaker 1: teacher Lunch Bottoms pull A surprize winner, the co Hannah
- 1:36Speaker 1: Can the Cohannah Jones, and Vice President Kamala Harris, to
- 1:40Speaker 1: name just a few. Apri Ran also pays tribute to mothers, nurses, teachers, activists,
- 1:45Speaker 1: and community leaders, knowing that all Black women make the
- 1:48Speaker 1: extraordinary ordinary. Please welcome to Money Making Conversations Masterclass, April Ryan.
- 1:54Speaker 1: Thanks for happening me. I'm so excited to be with you.
- 1:57Speaker 1: Thank you well. You know you are a face I'm
- 1:59Speaker 1: very familiar with, April uh. But first before I even
- 2:03Speaker 1: get into that, you know, I want to acknowledge the
- 2:05Speaker 1: fact that there you are an HBCU graduate Morrigan State.
- 2:10Speaker 1: Sean Yes, Morgan State, and a good friend of mine,
- 2:16Speaker 1: Kevin Frasier went to Morgan State too, didn't he Morgan
- 2:18Speaker 1: State contribute? Good? Aer I Allas makes the league. Christ
- 2:23Speaker 1: In food a Wilson Good. Come on earls, my man,
- 2:30Speaker 1: that's my man. You know, because when when the that
- 2:34Speaker 1: the George Floyd incident happens in color incident murder should
- 2:37Speaker 1: be called a social upheaval in this country and in
- 2:40Speaker 1: the world. You know, HBCUs will basically push to the forefront.
- 2:45Speaker 1: And then there's a lot of corporate and um private
- 2:48Speaker 1: donations made to hbc US and even this year it
- 2:53Speaker 1: was over two billion dollar contributions to HBCUs. With that
- 2:58Speaker 1: being said, and I was pretty black excellence. When I
- 3:01Speaker 1: talked about HBCUs, we started noting the amount of academic
- 3:04Speaker 1: success that really is found a lot of those schools
- 3:07Speaker 1: into the everyday culture we call America. What is your
- 3:10Speaker 1: reaction to going to an hbc U because your mother
- 3:13Speaker 1: taught an hbc U and how its impacted impact on
- 3:17Speaker 1: the world today. Well, my mother was director of student activity.
- 3:21Speaker 1: She didn't teach, but she and a lot of those
- 3:24Speaker 1: students um still here today. But now I'm an HBCU baby.
- 3:29Speaker 1: I grew up on on an hbc U campus, Morgan
- 3:32Speaker 1: State University. UM. Growing up on a campus, you're exposed
- 3:36Speaker 1: to a lot of excellence. You're exposed to open mind
- 3:41Speaker 1: and and and uh open open mind is UM if
- 3:44Speaker 1: you would say, UM, I experienced a lot of exploratory
- 3:54Speaker 1: pursuits about life before I even knew would life right?
- 4:00Speaker 1: You know, and that allows you to be able to
- 4:04Speaker 1: have that you know, that ability to the resiliency that
- 4:07Speaker 1: you talk about in your book as a black woman,
- 4:09Speaker 1: but also the resiliency to handle situation, that uncomfortable situation
- 4:14Speaker 1: and when you're just trying to do your job like
- 4:16Speaker 1: you've been doing, as we've seen play out at the
- 4:19Speaker 1: White House, play out with the personal I felt attacked
- 4:22Speaker 1: by then President Donald Trump. How did you handle that?
- 4:25Speaker 1: And who were the people with the support system around
- 4:28Speaker 1: you to allow you to continue to give you strength
- 4:32Speaker 1: to do your job on a daily basis. Black women
- 4:35Speaker 1: were my support. Black women to UM would see me
- 4:40Speaker 1: on the street and be like, Sis, I'm praying for you.
- 4:43Speaker 1: For UM. You know, people like, yeah, some black women say,
- 4:48Speaker 1: I put my hand out praying. You know, when you
- 4:51Speaker 1: came on so so God with God the conversation, you know,
- 4:55Speaker 1: I mean, black women really rallied around me, and I
- 4:58Speaker 1: heard somebody come frying. You know, I saw the microaggressions
- 5:01Speaker 1: on the job and it reminded me of me, and
- 5:03Speaker 1: I'm like, you just really don't realize what other people
- 5:09Speaker 1: are going through and the common thread. Um. You know,
- 5:14Speaker 1: I had so many people support me, and I don't
- 5:16Speaker 1: want to just call out names, but there were so
- 5:19Speaker 1: many people that supported me. But I want to think
- 5:21Speaker 1: I think mostly about black women, particularly as that president
- 5:25Speaker 1: vilified many black women during his time in office throughout
- 5:29Speaker 1: it years. You know, the interesting thing about it is
- 5:34Speaker 1: that you know, when you you became a face, you
- 5:37Speaker 1: became a brand that you know, became an individual. You
- 5:41Speaker 1: were forced into the public side. And I'm not saying
- 5:44Speaker 1: that's what you wanted to accomplish in your career, because
- 5:46Speaker 1: I don't know your career aspirations, But when you were
- 5:50Speaker 1: being challenged consistent like that, how did that impact your
- 5:54Speaker 1: personal life? I know people came up on the streets because,
- 5:56Speaker 1: like I said, you you were constantly I felt on
- 5:59Speaker 1: their attack. So and you said black women gave you support,
- 6:02Speaker 1: but internally how to what what? What with the resiliency
- 6:06Speaker 1: that that gave you the drive to say I'm right.
- 6:09Speaker 1: I'm a stand for what I believe in. This is
- 6:11Speaker 1: what I went to college for. This is my this
- 6:13Speaker 1: is my dream, this is my career. And nobody's gonna
- 6:16Speaker 1: back me down. All that you said, I mean, I
- 6:19Speaker 1: didn't do anything wrong. I stand on the shoulders of
- 6:22Speaker 1: my family. My answers is my late mother and father.
- 6:26Speaker 1: I stand. There's of HBC, is the black community Baltimore City.
- 6:31Speaker 1: I did nothing wrong. I asked him questions. He didn't
- 6:34Speaker 1: want to answer questions about a black community, that about
- 6:37Speaker 1: the black community that he could have cared less about. Um,
- 6:41Speaker 1: that's just my fact um. And at the end of
- 6:44Speaker 1: the day, Um, how was I attacked? I was attacked
- 6:48Speaker 1: in every way. I had the FBI come to my home.
- 6:51Speaker 1: I have had bomb spots come to my home. You know,
- 6:55Speaker 1: it's it's it sounds like a movie, but it was
- 6:58Speaker 1: my life and it was a price to pay. But
- 7:02Speaker 1: why would I run? And maybe it was fight or flight,
- 7:05Speaker 1: I don't know, but I didn't fly or run away.
- 7:09Speaker 1: Maybe it was fight, But that did nothing wrong. Too
- 7:12Speaker 1: many people worked too hard for me to get in
- 7:14Speaker 1: that space for me to go somewhere because of someone else.
- 7:17Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Absolutely, I'm speaking to April Ryan.
- 7:21Speaker 1: She's White House correspondency and Pillows analysts. We're talking about
- 7:25Speaker 1: her book, Black Women Will Save the World an anthem,
- 7:29Speaker 1: also about her personal life and some of the journeys
- 7:31Speaker 1: that she's had to endure being an HBC you graduate
- 7:34Speaker 1: working at the White House, especially covering it during the
- 7:37Speaker 1: Trump administration. Now, let's get to the book, Black Women
- 7:39Speaker 1: Will Save the World, because it's really a history book
- 7:43Speaker 1: and talking to about you know, the Civil War times
- 7:45Speaker 1: and spies. We know that a lot of people may
- 7:47Speaker 1: not know that Harry Tubman was really a spy, you
- 7:50Speaker 1: know when she when she uh sought freedom. But you're
- 7:54Speaker 1: talking you touched on a lot of different areas just
- 7:56Speaker 1: to let us know how women have slid in their
- 8:00Speaker 1: layer level of commitment and that you may or may
- 8:03Speaker 1: not be aware of. What was the journey of the
- 8:05Speaker 1: book and the purpose. Well, this book has been years
- 8:09Speaker 1: in the making. Um I presented it to Harpercollums many
- 8:12Speaker 1: years ago, and they knew that I wanted to write
- 8:16Speaker 1: this and it just wasn't the time. And then when
- 8:19Speaker 1: Kamala Harris was the Vice President of the United States,
- 8:22Speaker 1: just aid, wait a minute, so you know, and they
- 8:24Speaker 1: saw other black women in prominent positions, It's okay, let's
- 8:27Speaker 1: do this. And then the stars lined up with Katanshi
- 8:31Speaker 1: Brown Jackson being um nominated to the United States Supreme Court.
- 8:39Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe I was ahead of my time,
- 8:41Speaker 1: but this was the right time, and it all came together.
- 8:44Speaker 1: It wasn't We weren't plotting out of planning, but this
- 8:48Speaker 1: is something I wanted to write for a long time
- 8:51Speaker 1: and happened at this moment. The right You could not
- 8:56Speaker 1: craft the best moment like this is the you can
- 9:00Speaker 1: never think about back for the moment. We got the
- 9:02Speaker 1: moment just perhaps. And you know, and now as we
- 9:07Speaker 1: go to the polls, as black women are going to
- 9:10Speaker 1: posts to make decisions for their homes, we are uh
- 9:16Speaker 1: the black population. We're a large voting block for the
- 9:19Speaker 1: Democratic Party. We are we are decider in elections. We
- 9:22Speaker 1: have changed the red states blue Stacy Abrams and that
- 9:26Speaker 1: the black women with Roy Moore and Doug Jones voting
- 9:30Speaker 1: for Doug Jones in Alabama a few years back. We
- 9:34Speaker 1: have power that they don't want to let us know
- 9:37Speaker 1: we have mark the moment and say who we are.
- 9:42Speaker 1: It's important, you know when you look at that, because
- 9:45Speaker 1: that's that's you know, we always talk about the role
- 9:48Speaker 1: of the black women. I have my six sisters, so
- 9:50Speaker 1: I know the role of the black woman. And I
- 9:53Speaker 1: grew up a five or older than me, and so
- 9:56Speaker 1: they reminded me of my position in the family many
- 9:59Speaker 1: times with loving, loving smiles. Um. But but but the vote,
- 10:04Speaker 1: the vote of the black person, the black pession of
- 10:06Speaker 1: the vote of the black woman. Right now, these elections
- 10:08Speaker 1: are gonna turn on the vote of the black woman.
- 10:11Speaker 1: Are the black populace? But in the end, you know,
- 10:14Speaker 1: you have Democratic a Republicans. You have is so extreme. Now,
- 10:19Speaker 1: what do you see the state of politics from your perspective,
- 10:21Speaker 1: because you're right in there. You've seen the shift the dynamics,
- 10:25Speaker 1: and when President Obama came into the office and they
- 10:28Speaker 1: was heckling them during the state of his State of
- 10:30Speaker 1: the Union address. You've seen this this kind of like
- 10:33Speaker 1: verbal and social abuse that Cope called, that's being called
- 10:36Speaker 1: out on a daily basis on social media. So where
- 10:39Speaker 1: are we at as a black person in America, a
- 10:43Speaker 1: black woman in America or is our vote being taken
- 10:47Speaker 1: for granted? Is the is the power of the woman
- 10:50Speaker 1: to shift the narrative? Is the who can be elected
- 10:53Speaker 1: in the state or in the White House being taken
- 10:55Speaker 1: for granted? April? Yes, most definitely. And I say that
- 10:59Speaker 1: on apologetically and very straightforward. Um. It is because if
- 11:06Speaker 1: it weren't, we would have a lot more push. It
- 11:09Speaker 1: takes black women to go into the United Senate Office
- 11:14Speaker 1: building to march about voting rights and then get arrested.
- 11:18Speaker 1: Right but Martin is King the third got arrested in
- 11:22Speaker 1: front of White House on voting rights. Black people and
- 11:25Speaker 1: the vote have been taken for granted for centuries. And
- 11:29Speaker 1: the only way from the unique perch that I sit in,
- 11:33Speaker 1: the only way we see action is when the squeaky
- 11:37Speaker 1: wheel gets oiled, and the wheel has got to squeek
- 11:40Speaker 1: persistently and consistently. And when I say black people and
- 11:47Speaker 1: the voters taken for granted, let's just look at this.
- 11:50Speaker 1: This is not myth, This is not conjecture, is fact.
- 11:53Speaker 1: The black community still has the highest numbers of negatives
- 11:56Speaker 1: in almost every category. Award is not safe to drink
- 12:01Speaker 1: in Jackson. It's not just in Jackson, Flint has never
- 12:06Speaker 1: had its problem fixed. Okay, our housing costs. We have
- 12:11Speaker 1: the one point five million units short to have affordable
- 12:17Speaker 1: housing in this nation the way the government wants it
- 12:20Speaker 1: to look. We're preyed upon financially, I mean, and so on.
- 12:25Speaker 1: It's on our health care. Do we have it the
- 12:27Speaker 1: way it should be? No, I mean our education. I mean,
- 12:32Speaker 1: the list goes on and imprisonment, police, brutality, it just
- 12:37Speaker 1: hits every climate change. We are impacted asthma. Can you say, Katrina,
- 12:42Speaker 1: we live right in those dangerous spaces where we can
- 12:46Speaker 1: lose our home. The list goes on and on, and
- 12:49Speaker 1: if we were not taken for granted, these ills would
- 12:52Speaker 1: not be so pervasive and so ever present as they
- 12:56Speaker 1: are today. We'll be right back with more Money Making
- 13:00Speaker 1: Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Now, let's return to Money
- 13:07Speaker 1: Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. You know, you know
- 13:12Speaker 1: and reading your book or because you could have chosen
- 13:15Speaker 1: a lot of different women there to uh to discuss
- 13:20Speaker 1: your book. Black Women will Save the World an anthem
- 13:24Speaker 1: and she's mentioned in the movements and then in the
- 13:26Speaker 1: red of the book. I'm talking about former First Lady
- 13:29Speaker 1: Michelle Obama. I thought, in the process of just reading
- 13:32Speaker 1: your book and looking at you know, what's happening with
- 13:35Speaker 1: Supreme Court Justice Brown and the Vice President Harris, that
- 13:39Speaker 1: I felt that she was just as instrumental her role.
- 13:42Speaker 1: How she played out, I felt enabled them to be
- 13:47Speaker 1: considered by the country, be as a as a candidate
- 13:50Speaker 1: for vice president, to be considered by the country, as
- 13:55Speaker 1: to play the role as a Spring Court justice. When
- 13:57Speaker 1: you were selecting the various imagery or stories that you
- 14:01Speaker 1: was putting in this book, what did you see her?
- 14:03Speaker 1: And I know, like it's till everybody. She's mentioned in
- 14:05Speaker 1: the movement section of the book, But where did you
- 14:08Speaker 1: see her? As we talked about it, our impact, that's
- 14:13Speaker 1: a black woman in this movement? Michelle Obama? Oh, Michelle
- 14:19Speaker 1: Obama most definitely. I mean people people who still want
- 14:22Speaker 1: her to run for office, and she's like no, no, no,
- 14:25Speaker 1: no, no no. You know, Um, she is very impactful. Her
- 14:31Speaker 1: numbers and just as high, her whole numbers. Her fool
- 14:34Speaker 1: rating to this day still just as high as the
- 14:36Speaker 1: former president. They're called forever for a reason because people
- 14:42Speaker 1: connect to her because she came from the South Side
- 14:44Speaker 1: of Chicago, like um, Kataji Bround Jackson. You know, she
- 14:49Speaker 1: was told she couldn't, you know, or or she felt
- 14:52Speaker 1: she couldn't. But for Kataji, there was a janitor said,
- 14:56Speaker 1: you can keep going, Please keep going. Don't you be
- 14:58Speaker 1: so upset. But she's at Harvard. For Michelle, Michelle, from
- 15:01Speaker 1: Michelle Obama. From Michelle Obama, there were people who told
- 15:06Speaker 1: her she couldn't, and she chose to in spite of
- 15:10Speaker 1: and I hate to say this, you know, it's a
- 15:12Speaker 1: rag the richest story, but in a whole different way.
- 15:15Speaker 1: Average American living in the South Side of Chicago going
- 15:18Speaker 1: to the who looked like me, who ancestor of a
- 15:25Speaker 1: slave slaves built the White House, and she so eloquently
- 15:30Speaker 1: likes to remind people. But she rose to the highest
- 15:35Speaker 1: of heights. If it weren't for Michelle Obama, the chick
- 15:39Speaker 1: from the South Side, Barack Obama would not be President
- 15:42Speaker 1: of the United States. If it weren't from Michelle Obama
- 15:45Speaker 1: and her connection to Valerie Jared, Barack Obama would not
- 15:48Speaker 1: be the President of the United States. Two black women
- 15:53Speaker 1: helped move Barack Obama to become the most one of
- 15:59Speaker 1: the most six US for presidents in our modern history
- 16:03Speaker 1: two Black women, and the sad piece about it is
- 16:07Speaker 1: from Michelle Obama. She's still invisible because when her and
- 16:10Speaker 1: Valdie Jared would go out, you know, away from the
- 16:13Speaker 1: White House and walk, you know, walk around. Michelle Obama
- 16:18Speaker 1: is very statue used. You can't miss her, miss her.
- 16:20Speaker 1: Even if she has a baseball camp on, people didn't
- 16:23Speaker 1: pay attention to her. She is a marker for movement
- 16:27Speaker 1: because she moved. She told us to move for our health.
- 16:31Speaker 1: She told us, you know, when they go low, we
- 16:33Speaker 1: go high. Sometimes we accept that, sometimes we do. But
- 16:38Speaker 1: and she also helped stee Or. She she focused in
- 16:41Speaker 1: on our military. She focused in on so many things
- 16:44Speaker 1: that others had not. She kept it real um. She
- 16:50Speaker 1: is part of the movement of black women who activate
- 16:54Speaker 1: because they have to and for all intents and purposes,
- 16:59Speaker 1: because of her illness, because of her proximity to power
- 17:03Speaker 1: and her understanding of people and situations. She could be
- 17:08Speaker 1: a politician if she wanted to, if she wanted to,
- 17:10Speaker 1: she could be anything she wanted to be because she's
- 17:14Speaker 1: she's worked for. She's got a pedigree by putting her
- 17:17Speaker 1: husband in that space, by standing next to him, by
- 17:21Speaker 1: working with Valley she is, She's a movement all into herself.
- 17:26Speaker 1: And yeah, she she is a symbol of black woman
- 17:30Speaker 1: whose strength and womanhood standing the side and sometimes behind
- 17:34Speaker 1: her husband, but she is the strength of black woman
- 17:37Speaker 1: how to get it done. Even as he has a shine,
- 17:40Speaker 1: she's still shot him on the other side, on her
- 17:43Speaker 1: own and making it happen. So yeah, she is one
- 17:46Speaker 1: of those examples that has helped keep laying the groundwork
- 17:50Speaker 1: for women black women to be in these spaces because
- 17:54Speaker 1: every success that we see of a black woman just
- 17:58Speaker 1: lays the foundation for the next success. Wow, I'm speaking
- 18:03Speaker 1: with April Ryan. Black women will save the world. And
- 18:06Speaker 1: anthem is the name of the book, an anthem. What
- 18:10Speaker 1: do you mean when you room when you make that
- 18:11Speaker 1: statement in anthem? If you're in the Black church, you
- 18:14Speaker 1: know what anthem means over and over and over again,
- 18:18Speaker 1: with over and over again and believing it over and
- 18:21Speaker 1: over again. Black women will save the world. Black women
- 18:24Speaker 1: will save the world. Not only will we save the world,
- 18:27Speaker 1: we have, we are and we shall when we will.
- 18:30Speaker 1: Just talk about something doesn't go away that's still in
- 18:34Speaker 1: the news today is the January six riot or insurrection
- 18:40Speaker 1: as they call it. Uh, how did that affect you
- 18:44Speaker 1: when it happened and how I been watching it play out?
- 18:48Speaker 1: What what are your comments max and Waters? People like
- 18:53Speaker 1: Maxie Waters, commons want Maxie Waters who called it out
- 18:56Speaker 1: As you read the book, he called it out, and
- 19:00Speaker 1: they didn't listen to her. She asked questions. They didn't
- 19:03Speaker 1: listen to her. And but Maximum Waters before January six
- 19:07Speaker 1: and I did the interview, she said, don't you come
- 19:09Speaker 1: here to Washington? She told me, don't come to Washington.
- 19:13Speaker 1: Valley told me, don't you go to Washington On January six,
- 19:17Speaker 1: I chose not to. I was in my home safe
- 19:21Speaker 1: watching it on TV, losing my mind. I had my
- 19:24Speaker 1: dog had done something to the carpet. Carpet cleaner was here,
- 19:27Speaker 1: guy I've known for many years, and he was like,
- 19:30Speaker 1: calm down. I said, no, do you not see what's happening?
- 19:33Speaker 1: And he didn't understand why I was getting so hysterical,
- 19:36Speaker 1: But once he really took time to look, I said,
- 19:39Speaker 1: do you not see what they're doing? If one hair
- 19:42Speaker 1: or any of those congressional leaders head, if someone would
- 19:45Speaker 1: have died, we may not be sitting here today speaking
- 19:48Speaker 1: about how black women will save the world and anthem.
- 19:51Speaker 1: Just look what happened to Nancy Pelosi's husband, these conspiracy theories,
- 19:56Speaker 1: is angst about the fact that Joe Biden's present all
- 19:59Speaker 1: these things, that this ideology that Donald Trump has left
- 20:04Speaker 1: with some of these people, it's still playing out. And
- 20:09Speaker 1: these are scary times. These are very scary times. Were
- 20:14Speaker 1: you right in the like like you said, you're right
- 20:16Speaker 1: in the you can be listed as a target April
- 20:18Speaker 1: and these scary times, That's what I guess. I guess
- 20:21Speaker 1: huh again, I can't. You said I can't be I
- 20:24Speaker 1: am a target? Well, you know, I don't want to
- 20:26Speaker 1: go there. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna be the
- 20:28Speaker 1: person that comes out or even say that on my show.
- 20:30Speaker 1: But I will use the word can be listed as
- 20:33Speaker 1: a target, because you know where you stand. Because give
- 20:36Speaker 1: us comment. How do you how do you wake up?
- 20:37Speaker 1: How do you get on the plane, how do you
- 20:39Speaker 1: go to the grocery store? How do you go to
- 20:41Speaker 1: a restaurant? What you're feeling that way? Knowing that, especially
- 20:45Speaker 1: what happened to uh, you know, Congressman Pelosi's husband, Your safety,
- 20:51Speaker 1: my safety is paramount, My children's safety is paramount. Well,
- 20:55Speaker 1: you've got precautions and we work towards um safety. UM,
- 21:00Speaker 1: my head is always on the swivel. But you know,
- 21:03Speaker 1: we're in some very different times, times that I have
- 21:05Speaker 1: never imagined we've been. But I mean, you know, without
- 21:10Speaker 1: going into everything, you know, you never say oh I'm safe.
- 21:14Speaker 1: You always you're always watchful. And you know I've had,
- 21:19Speaker 1: like I said, I've had the FBI, the bomb squard
- 21:21Speaker 1: and everything in my home, you know, and our detailing
- 21:23Speaker 1: in the book. We're in some crazy times. And you know,
- 21:28Speaker 1: people from my condemn this. No, you need to call
- 21:30Speaker 1: for the people to go to jail, for criminal charges
- 21:34Speaker 1: to be placed against Sese people. This has got to stop. Well,
- 21:40Speaker 1: I agree, But you know, as you approach your twenty
- 21:44Speaker 1: six year of being at the White House, what are
- 21:46Speaker 1: your most memorable moments week? Everybody has a memberable moments
- 21:50Speaker 1: of everybody I know in my life. When I look back,
- 21:53Speaker 1: I've asked people questions and I go, I wish you
- 21:56Speaker 1: shouldn't have said that, or I asked him the question,
- 21:58Speaker 1: I get a reaction. I went wild. I didn't think
- 22:00Speaker 1: they had to respond that way. But when you look
- 22:02Speaker 1: at your career at the White House, what are your
- 22:05Speaker 1: what are some of the moments that you stand back
- 22:07Speaker 1: and go I thought my chest. Some of the moments
- 22:10Speaker 1: go I wish, I wish I had asked that a
- 22:13Speaker 1: different way. Oh no, I don't regret anything, but some
- 22:19Speaker 1: of the some of the moments that stand out to
- 22:22Speaker 1: me are not news necessarily. Those are the moments that
- 22:26Speaker 1: that one percent when after you work so hard, you
- 22:28Speaker 1: finally get the chance to let your hand out. But
- 22:31Speaker 1: when it comes to news, you know, asking questions about
- 22:34Speaker 1: the black farmers and and and and and their money
- 22:38Speaker 1: and you know, the first time around with Bill Clinton
- 22:40Speaker 1: and then finally the black farmers getting their money during
- 22:45Speaker 1: uh the Obama years, asking questions about you know, UH slavery,
- 22:52Speaker 1: asking questions about policing, asking questions about Katrina. It's always
- 22:58Speaker 1: about the story, not about me. It's about information, asking
- 23:03Speaker 1: questions for information to help people and their day, their
- 23:06Speaker 1: life would have you And that's what it's about. And
- 23:10Speaker 1: that when I hear people say thank you for asking
- 23:12Speaker 1: that or I saw that story it really helped me.
- 23:15Speaker 1: That's when what I do really makes a difference and
- 23:19Speaker 1: it makes me feel like I'm in the career that
- 23:21Speaker 1: I was chosen to be. Congratulation as we close out
- 23:24Speaker 1: this interview. I'm speaking with April Ryan her both black
- 23:26Speaker 1: women will say the world and anthem. What do you
- 23:29Speaker 1: think is the biggest stereotype that black women face in general? April,
- 23:34Speaker 1: we're not good enough? Um uh, we're angry and we're
- 23:39Speaker 1: angry angry black women um or angry black woman um.
- 23:44Speaker 1: But I try to dispel it every day. You know,
- 23:47Speaker 1: I want you to know I'm very concerned. It's not
- 23:50Speaker 1: angry about anything, it's very concerned. So concerned I moved
- 23:54Speaker 1: by asking questions or the highest office in the land
- 23:58Speaker 1: to make a difference as you as like, I told you,
- 24:03Speaker 1: I have six sisters, I have my daughter, have on
- 24:06Speaker 1: the one child as daughter. She's a just graduate from
- 24:09Speaker 1: college and she has a voice. So I was following
- 24:12Speaker 1: that young black girls who want to save the world.
- 24:14Speaker 1: You know, she's very equal concerned about the trees, about
- 24:18Speaker 1: recycling and all this. How would you guide her? I
- 24:22Speaker 1: got those two. I call him feminist tree hug and
- 24:27Speaker 1: I'm with days of April. She no joke to you
- 24:30Speaker 1: to her dad, Okay, she looks at me like, okay,
- 24:32Speaker 1: well we switched to role here. Okay, I'm your dad
- 24:35Speaker 1: is But she is so concerned about our future, which
- 24:38Speaker 1: rightfully show you know, I'm at the end of my future.
- 24:41Speaker 1: She has to live her future old, so she should
- 24:43Speaker 1: be concerned with the world. So what were you advice
- 24:46Speaker 1: would you give? You have one? I'm I got one.
- 24:49Speaker 1: I got to. I got to. Well, what do you
- 24:55Speaker 1: say to your young your young voices that I can
- 24:57Speaker 1: carry over to my young child because she's gonna listen
- 24:59Speaker 1: to the and make sure she does because this book
- 25:02Speaker 1: is fantastic and Africana. Make sure that you know she
- 25:05Speaker 1: she'sn't used to us when she graduated from college. I'm
- 25:08Speaker 1: based in Atlanta, so this book I'll be taking on
- 25:10Speaker 1: the plane with me so she can get it and
- 25:13Speaker 1: read it. Well, what if I do you give them
- 25:15Speaker 1: so I can share with her? Um, I tell them that,
- 25:19Speaker 1: you know, just pace yourself because they're ready to slay
- 25:24Speaker 1: the dragon right now. And I'm like, you gotta you
- 25:27Speaker 1: gotta watch the dragon, and then you gotta figure out
- 25:29Speaker 1: how to slay the dragon. And I said, I know
- 25:31Speaker 1: you're concerned, but pace yourself because you don't want them
- 25:35Speaker 1: burning out too quick and getting hurt by their passion.
- 25:39Speaker 1: But I support them, and that's the thing. I may
- 25:41Speaker 1: not always agree, but I know in their hearts they
- 25:43Speaker 1: feel it right and it's legal, so I support them
- 25:46Speaker 1: in their efforts. I mean looking COVID. They went out
- 25:49Speaker 1: marching and I was like, no, you can't, and they
- 25:52Speaker 1: were like, we're going out in spite them. And I
- 25:53Speaker 1: was like, I have never worried about my children leaving
- 25:57Speaker 1: the house. Well then because they wanted to stand for
- 26:01Speaker 1: George Floyd. And I said, okay, I said, just put
- 26:03Speaker 1: your masks on, stay away from people. This was before
- 26:05Speaker 1: the vaccine. I said. All I can do is support
- 26:09Speaker 1: them and marvel at the young women that they are
- 26:12Speaker 1: and the women that they are aspiring to be. I'm
- 26:15Speaker 1: just so proud of them, and I'm proud of your
- 26:16Speaker 1: daughter for being that way too. Tree hugging feminists who
- 26:19Speaker 1: will march April. She no joe, she is no joke.
- 26:23Speaker 1: I I don't stop her. I advise her. I tell her,
- 26:27Speaker 1: tell my wife. I said, you know, you know I'm
- 26:30Speaker 1: not gonna tell her what she can't do if she
- 26:33Speaker 1: seeks in my advice. Um um, they and I will
- 26:36Speaker 1: have an opinion, but I will not jump out in
- 26:38Speaker 1: front of her and tell her to stop. But I
- 26:40Speaker 1: will advise him. With goes with the world is look
- 26:43Speaker 1: at the news. Look at the news. The news tells
- 26:45Speaker 1: a lot, but look at all the news so you
- 26:48Speaker 1: can hear both sides of the story. In April, over
- 26:50Speaker 1: the years and watching you, you're courageous. I'm humble to
- 26:55Speaker 1: interview you because I've seen you face adversity in the
- 26:58Speaker 1: public's eye and you stood proud, and you made me proud,
- 27:02Speaker 1: and you made America problem. You made Black America proud.
- 27:05Speaker 1: And I want to tell you this book is a
- 27:07Speaker 1: very good read. Like you said, it is timely and
- 27:10Speaker 1: sometimes when you do it at the right time, it's
- 27:12Speaker 1: time for everybody to read it. And I'm gonna recommend
- 27:14Speaker 1: everybody to read this book. Black Women's Will Save the
- 27:17Speaker 1: World and Anthem by April Ryan. Thank you for coming
- 27:20Speaker 1: on Money Making Conversation Masterclass. Thank you. I enjoyed my
- 27:24Speaker 1: master class. Thank you give me crying big time. Stay safe, Okay,
- 27:30Speaker 1: we'll be right back with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass
- 27:34Speaker 1: with Rushan McDonald. You are now tuned into the Money
- 27:39Speaker 1: Making Conversations Minute of Inspiration with Rashan McDonald. Hi, I'm
- 27:43Speaker 1: Rashan McDonald for Money Making Conversation Masterclass with your Daily
- 27:46Speaker 1: Men of the inspiration. Recently, I spoke with two time
- 27:49Speaker 1: Emmy nominated actor, producer, comedian, youth pastor and author of
- 27:53Speaker 1: Blessed Mode, Cale Mitchell. He addresses the importance of following
- 27:57Speaker 1: the path of righteousness and always leading with love. Righteousness
- 28:01Speaker 1: is just really being obedient to God and thinking, uh,
- 28:04Speaker 1: and the way he thinks responding in love, and a
- 28:07Speaker 1: lot of times that's less hard for people. I mean,
- 28:09Speaker 1: you know it was hard for me. You know, it
- 28:10Speaker 1: wasn't just easy all of a sudden, I just I
- 28:12Speaker 1: just got it, you know what I mean. I used
- 28:14Speaker 1: to respond like, hey, you do me wrong, I do
- 28:15Speaker 1: you wrong? Okay, revenge, you know what I mean. But
- 28:17Speaker 1: now it's the thing of it's like no responding love
- 28:21Speaker 1: because love kills all that all that craziness. You might
- 28:24Speaker 1: be on one path and you'll go through something that's
- 28:27Speaker 1: the time where you need to learn from it. Listen
- 28:30Speaker 1: to this full interview with cal Mitchell. It's available on
- 28:32Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations dot com. Now let's return to Money
- 28:37Speaker 1: Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald's. My guests is Regina Bell,
- 28:44Speaker 1: with an illustrious career spanding thirty or five years chart
- 28:46Speaker 1: topping singer, songwriter and Grahmed Award winning singer Regina Bell
- 28:50Speaker 1: is back. It's time with a festive and beautifully soul
- 28:53Speaker 1: for holiday album titled My Colorful Christmas, the ten track
- 28:57Speaker 1: album which is on sale now from Bell's record record label,
- 29:01Speaker 1: Toshi Entertainment. Who's did no matter the genre, R and B, jazz, gospel,
- 29:07Speaker 1: even holiday music, everything she touches turns to go. On
- 29:11Speaker 1: today's show, We're going to talk about her new album,
- 29:13Speaker 1: About My Colorful Christmas, the lead single a Cradle in Bethlehem,
- 29:18Speaker 1: one of her and my favorite holiday songs from the
- 29:21Speaker 1: great Natkin Co Holiday Classic. We'll discuss a career spanding
- 29:25Speaker 1: more than thirty or five years, family, faith, in marriage,
- 29:27Speaker 1: please working the money making conversation masterclass, Regina Bell, How
- 29:31Speaker 1: are you doing? I'm doing great? How are you awesome?
- 29:35Speaker 1: You know? You know, we got a lot of talk about.
- 29:37Speaker 1: But when I mentioned my favorite a Cradle in Bethlehem,
- 29:41Speaker 1: the lead single on your album, My Colorful Chris, you
- 29:44Speaker 1: hugged yourself. Why did you do that? Regina? This is
- 29:48Speaker 1: the greatest song and I've loved it since I was
- 29:52Speaker 1: a child. Um, you know everybody loves chest nuts, this
- 29:56Speaker 1: nuts West thing on an open side. But but my
- 30:00Speaker 1: favorite song has always been A Cradle in Bethlehem. And
- 30:03Speaker 1: when I say that, most people don't even know that song.
- 30:06Speaker 1: So when you when you embraced it and told me
- 30:08Speaker 1: that it was your favorite as well, Oh my gosh,
- 30:11Speaker 1: we're kindred spirits already. You know, you know, I got
- 30:14Speaker 1: the classic Downpad done the Hathaway, I love them, I
- 30:17Speaker 1: love it. But this song, yeah, you know it's it's
- 30:22Speaker 1: it's a tribute to his brilliance. I'm talking about Matt
- 30:24Speaker 1: Kine as a singer, as a person who he took
- 30:29Speaker 1: the simple and made it special and made an emotional
- 30:31Speaker 1: and that's what A Cradle in Bethlehem. And I was
- 30:33Speaker 1: excited because sometimes you need to redo songs to reintroduce
- 30:39Speaker 1: him into another era people, and this is the era
- 30:42Speaker 1: I think needs a song like A Cradle and Bethlenham
- 30:45Speaker 1: and for it to come out on your Christmas album
- 30:47Speaker 1: is I think it's amazing and fantax and congratulations, Regina,
- 30:51Speaker 1: thank you so much, Thank you so much. I I
- 30:54Speaker 1: have loved this song for so many years, so you know, obviously,
- 30:57Speaker 1: when I got ready to put my own flip over
- 31:00Speaker 1: to it. I wanted to make sure that I didn't
- 31:02Speaker 1: do anything that was going to insult you know, the genre.
- 31:07Speaker 1: But I also wanted to say, well, I want to
- 31:10Speaker 1: put a little Regina on it. So uh, you know,
- 31:13Speaker 1: I had to put a little jazz in there. It's
- 31:15Speaker 1: a little R and B is some gospel. I mean
- 31:17Speaker 1: you can hear all of the flavor, all of the genres. Uh.
- 31:21Speaker 1: You know that that are that I embrace that you
- 31:25Speaker 1: hear me sing all the time whenever I sing a song.
- 31:29Speaker 1: So um, I was really really pleased with the outcome. Yeah,
- 31:33Speaker 1: here's the thing, the interesting thing about you, because you
- 31:35Speaker 1: know I have been a part of your thirty five
- 31:38Speaker 1: year career. Okay, and um and and blessed to hear
- 31:42Speaker 1: your greatness and see your beauty, your natural beauty and
- 31:46Speaker 1: music videos on live television, on television and a live concerts.
- 31:50Speaker 1: You know that your your statue iss you project, you know,
- 31:55Speaker 1: in a very profound manner. And you said, I gotta
- 31:58Speaker 1: put a little Regina on it. You know what is
- 32:01Speaker 1: a little Regina on it? Regina Bell? What is that?
- 32:04Speaker 1: We gotta Regina rize you because because that's because when
- 32:09Speaker 1: you're reginaizing it, it really makes it unique. And the
- 32:13Speaker 1: reason I say that is that opt here promotions where
- 32:17Speaker 1: on the show tamler Man and Regina Belle, you know
- 32:21Speaker 1: that's another show? Did I on the show The Old
- 32:24Speaker 1: Jays and Regina Bell. I've been going like, you know
- 32:29Speaker 1: you're doing this, you know on the show. You know
- 32:32Speaker 1: on the show you know Terry Lane Carrington and Regina Bell.
- 32:36Speaker 1: You know, this is just unique genres that you're falling
- 32:41Speaker 1: into and and and and excelling in. So how is
- 32:46Speaker 1: that possible? Regina Bell? I have to say, it's to
- 32:50Speaker 1: the Almighty? Is it has nothing to do with me? Um?
- 32:55Speaker 1: I give God all the credit. Um. I do think
- 33:00Speaker 1: God for the opportunity, and I have embraced every opportunity.
- 33:05Speaker 1: I put in the hard work, you know, art work.
- 33:08Speaker 1: As you well know, Rashaan can't just pop up one
- 33:11Speaker 1: day and say I want to do this, and you know,
- 33:14Speaker 1: put your mind, your heart, your soul and your gift
- 33:17Speaker 1: into what it is that you're doing. Um, And that's
- 33:21Speaker 1: what I did. I Uh, I was born with the
- 33:24Speaker 1: gift to sing, but I wanted to polish the gift.
- 33:27Speaker 1: You know, you can get a diamond, you can get
- 33:30Speaker 1: a nine carrot diamond, right, and it can be full
- 33:33Speaker 1: of flaws, it can have all kind of carbons in it.
- 33:35Speaker 1: But when it's cut away, when you cut away all
- 33:38Speaker 1: of the impurities and and make that diamond shine the
- 33:43Speaker 1: way it should and the light passes through it. You know,
- 33:46Speaker 1: the four carrot diamond is actually more expensive than the
- 33:50Speaker 1: nine carrot because of the brilliance of it, because it
- 33:54Speaker 1: is because of its perfection. And so I was born
- 33:58Speaker 1: with the gift. But I couldn't stop there. I had
- 34:01Speaker 1: to put in some work. So I studied music, played
- 34:04Speaker 1: instruments coming up, ranging from trombone, baritone, tuba, uh and
- 34:11Speaker 1: steel drums. And I took vocal lessons with Ingle Wolf
- 34:17Speaker 1: at the Manhattan School of Music UM for Preparatory College
- 34:21Speaker 1: in New York. And then I went on to Rutgish
- 34:24Speaker 1: University and I studied piano with Kenny Brown, so famous
- 34:28Speaker 1: jazz pianists. And so I have um. I've run the gamut,
- 34:32Speaker 1: and I've been able to you know, rough shoulders with
- 34:36Speaker 1: some greats like George Duke, being able to be in
- 34:38Speaker 1: the studio with the late great George Juke Um for
- 34:41Speaker 1: My Lazy Afternoon CD. I've been in the studio with
- 34:45Speaker 1: pastor Shirley Caesar, which is you know the reason why
- 34:49Speaker 1: I'm singing. You know, I patterned my whole singing style
- 34:52Speaker 1: when I first started singing after her and Donnie Halfaway
- 34:55Speaker 1: and Billy Holiday, so you know, bringing all of that
- 34:59Speaker 1: together there, um, I found Regina Bell. And it's been
- 35:04Speaker 1: my mantra that even at my worst, I'm still number one,
- 35:11Speaker 1: being myself at best. Trying to be somebody else, I
- 35:15Speaker 1: can only be at best number two. So I try
- 35:18Speaker 1: to maintain my sound and all that I do, even
- 35:23Speaker 1: if I do jazz, even if I do R and B,
- 35:25Speaker 1: even if if I do gospel, I always have to
- 35:28Speaker 1: be quintessential Regina Bell. And that's worked for me all
- 35:32Speaker 1: through the years. You know, my life is really interesting, Regina,
- 35:35Speaker 1: because you know, you know, some people say, you know,
- 35:38Speaker 1: they look at who I am and they put me
- 35:39Speaker 1: in a certain category as success. But I've just been
- 35:42Speaker 1: a regular dude all my life, you know what I'm saying,
- 35:45Speaker 1: And so I've looked, but I've looked at you, you know,
- 35:48Speaker 1: you know, and being able to have an interview, you
- 35:50Speaker 1: interview at this level about your career and look at
- 35:53Speaker 1: where my career it's all about a journey. And I
- 35:55Speaker 1: always tell people that I look at when I was
- 35:58Speaker 1: twenty and then I didn't really see four. When I
- 36:01Speaker 1: looked at thirty, I didn't really see fifty. Because it's
- 36:04Speaker 1: about a career, you know, because you know, you know,
- 36:08Speaker 1: even now, you go, am I gonna make it to
- 36:10Speaker 1: seventy and eighty career wise? Because you know what it
- 36:13Speaker 1: took to get to this point? How do you put
- 36:16Speaker 1: that in perspective? Because you know, you just right off
- 36:18Speaker 1: the early years, you know, when you just out there
- 36:20Speaker 1: just being Regina. You know, I always tell people between
- 36:23Speaker 1: the ages of eighteen and twenty four, you just being you.
- 36:26Speaker 1: It's after twenty four that decisions can be made for you,
- 36:30Speaker 1: or you can make a decision that could take you
- 36:31Speaker 1: off your path. And that's when that career conversation comes
- 36:35Speaker 1: into play. And then next time you look up thirty
- 36:37Speaker 1: or five years later, we're talking now about your career,
- 36:40Speaker 1: but you're also talking about your future. Because we had
- 36:42Speaker 1: a beautiful holiday album next time and I called my
- 36:45Speaker 1: Colorful Christmas. How do you talk about your career perspective
- 36:49Speaker 1: when you talk about you know, before twenty four and
- 36:51Speaker 1: then after twenty four. Well, it's interesting you say that
- 36:56Speaker 1: because even though I was just kind of being Regina,
- 36:59Speaker 1: the still made very important decisions, especially as it pertains
- 37:04Speaker 1: to my image. Um, it was very important to me
- 37:08Speaker 1: to maintain a certain image. And it's not to knock
- 37:11Speaker 1: anybody else, but you know, UM, I sat at the
- 37:15Speaker 1: feet of Nancy Wilson and free to pain and I
- 37:18Speaker 1: got I glean knowledge from them. And one of the
- 37:22Speaker 1: things that Nancy told me is that you know everybody
- 37:26Speaker 1: can't take their clothes off, and that you know at
- 37:29Speaker 1: the end of the day, she said, I want you
- 37:31Speaker 1: to get your accolades for your gift. I want you
- 37:35Speaker 1: to get your accolades for what you have inside and
- 37:38Speaker 1: the prize that God has given you. And and based
- 37:41Speaker 1: it based it on that. It's not it's not to
- 37:43Speaker 1: say that you can't have gimmicks and things in your show,
- 37:47Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, let the people
- 37:49Speaker 1: go home with a piece of you, and you will
- 37:53Speaker 1: your career will span the years. And so I tried
- 37:57Speaker 1: to make decisions throughout my life, even as a twenty
- 38:01Speaker 1: five year old, even as a thirty five year old,
- 38:04Speaker 1: even as a forty five year old, I tried to
- 38:07Speaker 1: make decisions that always appeal to who I am and
- 38:12Speaker 1: where I want to be. So it wasn't just about
- 38:15Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever just thought about where I am.
- 38:20Speaker 1: I always kind of thought about where am I going?
- 38:23Speaker 1: What what do I what? Where? Where do I want
- 38:25Speaker 1: to end up? What do what we do? I want
- 38:26Speaker 1: to be? You know? Um? Uh if I do this,
- 38:30Speaker 1: how will that translate years down the road? Will that
- 38:33Speaker 1: be a classic? Or will that end up being fat music?
- 38:37Speaker 1: You know? Um? And so making those kinds of decisions
- 38:40Speaker 1: in terms of image, in terms of you know, showing
- 38:43Speaker 1: up for a picture here, um, versus being at my
- 38:47Speaker 1: daughter's graduation. I ate those decisions to say, I know
- 38:52Speaker 1: that's an important place to be and that it may
- 38:55Speaker 1: add to my career, but guess what, I get one
- 38:58Speaker 1: chance to be at my daughter's graduation. I'm going into
- 39:00Speaker 1: the graduation to take a chance on it. If it
- 39:03Speaker 1: comes around, and it's great if it doesn't find and
- 39:06Speaker 1: I've made those important decisions and I'm I'm happy with
- 39:10Speaker 1: my life. I wouldn't trade my life for anybody. Your brand,
- 39:13Speaker 1: that's what we're talking about. Your brand and for Nancy
- 39:15Speaker 1: wasn't free the pain where the boys? I can see
- 39:17Speaker 1: it right now, and so trained singing, you know, bring
- 39:20Speaker 1: the boys hard, free to pain, you know, you know,
- 39:23Speaker 1: because that's that's a that's a brand. Because see, I
- 39:26Speaker 1: don't know what she did off in her personal life.
- 39:28Speaker 1: I don't know who she dated. I don't know you know,
- 39:31Speaker 1: did she did she party and then? But some great artists,
- 39:35Speaker 1: you know, they're off screen, it's sometimes dominate their talents
- 39:40Speaker 1: that they produced to us on screen. And that's what
- 39:42Speaker 1: we're talking about. You, your brand, we're talking about you know,
- 39:46Speaker 1: what do you want to be remembered for. I'm just
- 39:48Speaker 1: only remembering you from your great music. I remember you
- 39:50Speaker 1: from a stage when you when I when you performed
- 39:54Speaker 1: for me. When I left that venue, I took your
- 39:57Speaker 1: music with I took your elegance with me. I took
- 39:59Speaker 1: your your presentation with me. That's all I remember. And
- 40:02Speaker 1: that's what you want as an artist. You don't want.
- 40:06Speaker 1: You don't want what you do off stage, who your dating,
- 40:09Speaker 1: who you're shaking, And sometimes when you're getting drunk, you're
- 40:12Speaker 1: getting pulled over to undermine what your gifts. And that's
- 40:17Speaker 1: what you That's what Nancy Wilson was saying to you.
- 40:18Speaker 1: That's what Free to Pay with you don't let don't
- 40:21Speaker 1: undermine your gifts that God gave you by being immature. Yes, yes,
- 40:26Speaker 1: that's exactly what they were telling me. And they were
- 40:29Speaker 1: telling me that you're this is what you're selling. You're
- 40:32Speaker 1: selling music, You're selling gifts, You're selling a story. You
- 40:37Speaker 1: you want people to buy into your story when every
- 40:40Speaker 1: every time somebody comes to your concert, they're coming into
- 40:44Speaker 1: your living room, right, what do you want to have
- 40:46Speaker 1: prepared for them at your home? What do you want
- 40:49Speaker 1: to talk about? What do you want to you know,
- 40:51Speaker 1: what is your presentation? What do you want to display?
- 40:55Speaker 1: And and those things? Who are the things that I
- 40:58Speaker 1: thought about that I still can senue to think about,
- 41:01Speaker 1: uh as I go from stage to stage, from city
- 41:04Speaker 1: to city, from state to state, country to country, these
- 41:06Speaker 1: are the things that I think about. UM. I got
- 41:11Speaker 1: a chance to expand a little bit UH last year
- 41:15Speaker 1: being in Kirk Franklin's UM Christmas Movie, and that was
- 41:20Speaker 1: amazing because that's so you know, you know, different things
- 41:27Speaker 1: are opening up for me to be able to do
- 41:29Speaker 1: UM as a result of you know, this gift making
- 41:34Speaker 1: room for me and opening up other doors for me.
- 41:36Speaker 1: So I'm excited about it. UM. I'm looking forward to
- 41:41Speaker 1: what the future holds. Uh. This Christmas record is just
- 41:45Speaker 1: a little piece of me. This is my favorite time
- 41:48Speaker 1: of year. Uh, not necessarily for the commercialism of it,
- 41:53Speaker 1: but because it's a time when a lot of us
- 41:56Speaker 1: as family come together. You know, we get a chance
- 41:59Speaker 1: to sit down, we get a break from the crazy. UM,
- 42:03Speaker 1: people are a little bit nicer. Um, we exchange gifts,
- 42:06Speaker 1: we get to show each other how much we love
- 42:08Speaker 1: one another. And so it's it's Um, it's my favorite
- 42:12Speaker 1: time of being, always has been, and so this music
- 42:16Speaker 1: being able to do this at this time. Uh, I
- 42:20Speaker 1: can't even tell you, Shana, how it warms my heart. UM.
- 42:24Speaker 1: My brother who passed away in June was a big
- 42:28Speaker 1: part of this, and um, this is a piece of
- 42:32Speaker 1: him that I get to carry with me for the
- 42:34Speaker 1: rest of my life. We'll be right back with more
- 42:36Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Now let's return
- 42:44Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. Well, I
- 42:50Speaker 1: want to just commend you your articulation and it was
- 42:53Speaker 1: moving and impacted me and I want to tell you
- 42:56Speaker 1: some Regina. Uh, this show has been a sometimes a
- 43:01Speaker 1: blessing for me. I get to interview individuals like you
- 43:05Speaker 1: and um and I get to share with the public
- 43:07Speaker 1: a story that they might not have heard. All they
- 43:10Speaker 1: all they know is just the artists, the artist, and
- 43:13Speaker 1: you know, they don't know about the family, don't know
- 43:15Speaker 1: about the long term marriage and or the here things
- 43:18Speaker 1: like where were Gina been? You know, Regina been raising
- 43:21Speaker 1: five Kidsina been been a wife. Regina live in the
- 43:26Speaker 1: Atlanta area. She's been living, she's been doing, living a
- 43:29Speaker 1: successful life. And guess what, for thirty five years, she's
- 43:32Speaker 1: been still having a career. And I remember I remember once, Um,
- 43:36Speaker 1: you know Steve harperd who I was managing at the time,
- 43:39Speaker 1: We did this contract with the Radio one and he
- 43:42Speaker 1: was doing morning drive in l A. And we did
- 43:47Speaker 1: that contract because of the fact that we gotta check
- 43:49Speaker 1: every week, so that allowed us to do what we
- 43:54Speaker 1: wanted to do. We didn't have to jump out there
- 43:57Speaker 1: and do every movie that was offered to us. We
- 43:59Speaker 1: don't have to jump out there and take every concert check.
- 44:01Speaker 1: But people started saying, what what what happened to Steve Harvey?
- 44:05Speaker 1: You know Sidric out there, Bernie mc at that deal
- 44:08Speaker 1: out there. Now, Steve, we were clocking checks and planning
- 44:11Speaker 1: in our career and planning. So that's all I'm chilling there.
- 44:15Speaker 1: She she found a great man. Okay, she started having
- 44:20Speaker 1: beautiful kids. She started controlling her destiny. Which once you
- 44:24Speaker 1: started controlling your destiny, you can pick a choose. Yeah,
- 44:28Speaker 1: when you want to do what you wanna do? Am
- 44:31Speaker 1: I right? Regina? Important? You are? You? Are? You? You
- 44:34Speaker 1: hit the nail on the head. I can't tell you. Um.
- 44:38Speaker 1: I married my husband, uh thirty one years ago, um
- 44:43Speaker 1: John Sydney Battle Um Fromer Hawks and Cavaliers basketball player.
- 44:49Speaker 1: And we actually met each other at Rutgers University where
- 44:53Speaker 1: we were both going to school, and he was my
- 44:57Speaker 1: best friend for you know, years before we got married.
- 45:01Speaker 1: So we were best friends for a nine years before
- 45:04Speaker 1: we got before we went on a date. How about
- 45:07Speaker 1: that look? That says something somebody who's listening to this
- 45:13Speaker 1: show him being my friend is it speaks miles Because
- 45:21Speaker 1: when I tell people that we've never ever gotten into
- 45:25Speaker 1: an argument where we cussed each other out, some folks
- 45:30Speaker 1: look and say, what y'all ain't No, No, Because he
- 45:35Speaker 1: started out as my best friend, and even when we're
- 45:38Speaker 1: in the midst of a disagreement, we have to respectfully disagree,
- 45:45Speaker 1: and so that I think that friendship speaks volumes into
- 45:49Speaker 1: our marriage. Um. It helped us to raise our children. Uh.
- 45:55Speaker 1: They they are. We have a foundation that goes beyond
- 45:58Speaker 1: our careers. And I think that's really really important because
- 46:02Speaker 1: we don't get caught up in the height we we
- 46:05Speaker 1: we know who we are. Um. Folks say, oh my
- 46:08Speaker 1: God's with Gina Belle, And I said, we just folks.
- 46:10Speaker 1: And I'm making that from my whole heart. Just folks. Um.
- 46:14Speaker 1: My mother has always told me, and it's something that
- 46:17Speaker 1: I carry with me every day of my life. She
- 46:20Speaker 1: says that your reputation walks in the door before you
- 46:22Speaker 1: get there. Um, these are pearls wisdom that I hold
- 46:26Speaker 1: onto and they help. They helped my buoyancy. They helped
- 46:30Speaker 1: keep me my head above water. They keep me afloat
- 46:34Speaker 1: because it never allows me to get caught up in
- 46:38Speaker 1: the moment so much so that I forget who I am. Uh.
- 46:42Speaker 1: Raising my family was important because at the end of
- 46:45Speaker 1: the day, when something doesn't go right, that's who I
- 46:48Speaker 1: run to. I can't run to the one who I
- 46:50Speaker 1: signed the autograph for. I can't to the grammy because
- 46:53Speaker 1: the grammar is not gonna talk to me. You know,
- 46:56Speaker 1: celebrity is not going to do much for me when
- 46:58Speaker 1: I'm going through what I'm going through. But it's my
- 47:01Speaker 1: family that embraces me and that knows me for who
- 47:04Speaker 1: I am. And it's not expecting Regina Bell the stage person,
- 47:08Speaker 1: but basically embracing Gina the family member. You know. So
- 47:12Speaker 1: that that means when you talked about that, you know,
- 47:15Speaker 1: being able to be home raise your family. Uh, that
- 47:19Speaker 1: that speaks volumes because again that's the thing that keeps
- 47:22Speaker 1: me level and keeps me keeps my head right. Let's
- 47:26Speaker 1: get back to the album and regards to ten songs Holiday,
- 47:31Speaker 1: because I'm teasing you know, I got my favorites. And then,
- 47:36Speaker 1: like I said, when this album came across my desk,
- 47:38Speaker 1: a cradle in Bethlehem, I win. You gotta be kid
- 47:41Speaker 1: in me. You got to be kid in me and
- 47:44Speaker 1: that kid cold because you know you always go, well,
- 47:48Speaker 1: it's only in Bethlehem, you know what I'm saying. And
- 47:51Speaker 1: what other what other classics or did you do any
- 47:54Speaker 1: original songs pristimpher songs on the on the Timber records
- 47:58Speaker 1: that you're dropping on this particular album. M no. I
- 48:01Speaker 1: honestly didn't. There's one original song on there, but it's
- 48:05Speaker 1: not necessarily a Christmas song, and I'll talk a little
- 48:08Speaker 1: bit more about that. But I really wanted to do
- 48:13Speaker 1: the familiar Christmas songs um, and I wanted to involve
- 48:18Speaker 1: my family. So my my son is playing drums on
- 48:21Speaker 1: a couple of the tunes, UM, my nephews playing um
- 48:26Speaker 1: drums uh, Jamal Bell, my son Jalen Battle, and then
- 48:31Speaker 1: my two daughters, Sydney and Nyla. UM. Sydney singing a
- 48:36Speaker 1: baby changes everything, and NILA's singing the first Noel. And
- 48:40Speaker 1: so I really wanted to make it a family affair
- 48:43Speaker 1: because of That's why I call it my Colorful Christmas,
- 48:46Speaker 1: because there's so many colors of what I love, you know. Um,
- 48:51Speaker 1: the music is colorful because, like I said, we incorporated
- 48:55Speaker 1: the jazz, the gospel, the the the everything all that
- 49:00Speaker 1: I love. UM, and then I incorporated members of my family.
- 49:04Speaker 1: But then they come in with a whole different another flights.
- 49:07Speaker 1: So Nyla things differently than Sydney sets uh, Jamal plays
- 49:13Speaker 1: drums differently than than Jalen plays trumps. So then we
- 49:17Speaker 1: got a little, you know, a little Calypso Soca uh
- 49:21Speaker 1: all little town of Bethlehem. Um So, so you know,
- 49:25Speaker 1: we call it my Colorful Christmas because we added some
- 49:28Speaker 1: colors of music. We added um colors of uh styles
- 49:33Speaker 1: we added, I added different members of a family. Um uh.
- 49:37Speaker 1: And the one song that I wanted to talk to
- 49:39Speaker 1: you about is the last song. It's called a song
- 49:43Speaker 1: from Bernie and that is my brother. For those of
- 49:46Speaker 1: you that don't know, Bernard bell Is produced millions of
- 49:51Speaker 1: records that have got above, above and beyond UM from
- 49:57Speaker 1: Michael Jackson's Remember the Time to Whitney and Bobby we
- 50:01Speaker 1: have something in common along with Teddy Riley um uh, myself, um,
- 50:07Speaker 1: Patti La Belle Boy, George case Jahim. I mean, the
- 50:12Speaker 1: list goes on. The wineens. He, my brother, was truly
- 50:16Speaker 1: amazing um And this song is the last song that
- 50:20Speaker 1: he and I did together. And I'm trying not to
- 50:22Speaker 1: get you know, Terry out about it, but it's the
- 50:25Speaker 1: last song that he and I did together. And it's
- 50:27Speaker 1: a song that basically speaks UM from those that have
- 50:31Speaker 1: gone on from and mostly I. I really wanted to
- 50:35Speaker 1: do it because of COVID. COVID had us to realize
- 50:39Speaker 1: some things that we had taken for granted, like being
- 50:42Speaker 1: able to have a homegoing service, and and realizing what
- 50:45Speaker 1: it meant to us to have people come in from
- 50:48Speaker 1: other cities, other states to hug us and tell us
- 50:51Speaker 1: how much they love us and how much they love
- 50:53Speaker 1: your loved one. UM. Not being able to do that
- 50:57Speaker 1: during COVID it was traumatic, not being to touch our
- 51:00Speaker 1: loved ones who were sick and in the hospital, and
- 51:03Speaker 1: sometimes we they passed on and we never got a
- 51:06Speaker 1: chance to kind of bring closure to anything until they
- 51:09Speaker 1: were gone. UM. This song simply says for all of you.
- 51:14Speaker 1: I've been a caregiver for many years. UM. I was
- 51:17Speaker 1: an ambassador for a a r P for many years. UM.
- 51:21Speaker 1: And I at the same time of having a career
- 51:24Speaker 1: with Shine with my mom, I was caring for my mom,
- 51:27Speaker 1: my dad, and my brother. UM. Meanwhile, my husband and
- 51:31Speaker 1: I pastor in two churches. I was on the road
- 51:34Speaker 1: and in seminary. So you bet a holler at your girl. Okay,
- 51:38Speaker 1: A lot going on with five kids and four grandkids. Yeah,
- 51:43Speaker 1: so there's a lot going on. So this song simply says, UM.
- 51:47Speaker 1: It says I had to leave, And it's basically saying
- 51:50Speaker 1: that there's nothing more you could do. I know, as caregivers,
- 51:53Speaker 1: we always feel like was there. You know, maybe I
- 51:56Speaker 1: could have scheduled one more doctor's appointment and would have
- 51:59Speaker 1: changed things. Maybe I could have had one more visit
- 52:02Speaker 1: or something. Um. But you know, the song says I
- 52:05Speaker 1: had to leave, meaning that my assignment here was up.
- 52:11Speaker 1: It was my time. It was nothing else that you
- 52:13Speaker 1: could do for me. Thank you for everything you did. Um,
- 52:17Speaker 1: I love you, but I had to leave. And so
- 52:20Speaker 1: the song is a little sad, but it's something that
- 52:22Speaker 1: helps us to embrace, um, the feeling of loss with
- 52:26Speaker 1: our loved ones that have passed on. Wow, I'm talking
- 52:30Speaker 1: to Regina Bell. You know at Lester's career spand more
- 52:33Speaker 1: than thirty or five years chart topping singer, songwriter, Grammy
- 52:36Speaker 1: Award winner, she's back. Well should I say they were?
- 52:39Speaker 1: I think that's an insult. So she's back. She actually
- 52:42Speaker 1: has another project that she's delivering to the forefront of
- 52:45Speaker 1: the entertainment business is from her record label To Entertainment.
- 52:49Speaker 1: It's called A Colorful Christmas and and and it's a
- 52:53Speaker 1: holiday album that's going to I think I would say
- 52:56Speaker 1: it's a game changing for me because of the fact
- 52:58Speaker 1: that it's allowing me to hear music that sometimes you know,
- 53:01Speaker 1: because you know, they only play popular songs on the radio.
- 53:05Speaker 1: There's a few of the like ten Up, they just
- 53:07Speaker 1: play over and over and over, and then you have
- 53:09Speaker 1: to go sometimes to like Sirius XM and then go
- 53:12Speaker 1: that's my soul. Well, this song here a Cradle in
- 53:15Speaker 1: Bethlehem is on my It's on my you know, my
- 53:18Speaker 1: my playlists. So even when it's not Christmas, I listened
- 53:21Speaker 1: to this song. And so to hear on your album
- 53:24Speaker 1: is a blessing to have this honest conversation, Regine. I
- 53:28Speaker 1: hope it resonated with me. It was powerful. It allowed
- 53:31Speaker 1: me to speak to somebody that I've always seen from
- 53:34Speaker 1: Afar and the journey that you've taken, and you have
- 53:37Speaker 1: made Nancy Wilson proud my friend. Okay, you have followed
- 53:42Speaker 1: her words and her understanding that it's about your brand.
- 53:46Speaker 1: And when you walk off that stage, let what walked
- 53:50Speaker 1: off is what we heard, what we experienced in that venue.
- 53:52Speaker 1: When you go on that poolpit at those two churches,
- 53:55Speaker 1: let people understand that the message you're giving is what
- 53:58Speaker 1: you want to resonate in their heart and uplift them
- 54:01Speaker 1: in their community. You are a blessing Regina Bell and
- 54:04Speaker 1: the fact that you come off with a my colorful
- 54:07Speaker 1: Christmas album led by the first single, A Cradle in Bethlehem.
- 54:11Speaker 1: Tell everybody if we go, where can we find this song?
- 54:13Speaker 1: And how about your social media too? Oh, you can
- 54:17Speaker 1: go to my website. I am Regina Bell dot com,
- 54:22Speaker 1: um and uh, you know, and you can purchase it there.
- 54:26Speaker 1: I'm on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, I'm on all the social
- 54:29Speaker 1: media platforms. Um you can find me. Or you can
- 54:32Speaker 1: go to h Apple Music uh anywhere pretty much and
- 54:38Speaker 1: Spotify and and pick it up. You can stream it,
- 54:42Speaker 1: just play it, play it because I'm telling you it's
- 54:47Speaker 1: gonna bless you. Um listen. Being the boss it costs
- 54:51Speaker 1: uh Rashana, thank you for pointing that out. It's on
- 54:54Speaker 1: my own record label, Toshi three Entertainment. Uh. But uh,
- 55:00Speaker 1: it was definitely a challenge, but it was also a
- 55:04Speaker 1: labor of love. So I'm really excited about this because
- 55:08Speaker 1: it's my first full project on my own record label.
- 55:12Speaker 1: So you know, you can still do it. Don't let
- 55:14Speaker 1: the gray hand fool is life. Life ain't fooling us.
- 55:19Speaker 1: Thirty or five years in this business and we know
- 55:21Speaker 1: we got another thirty or five years to keep changing
- 55:23Speaker 1: the business. You're Uplift your blessing. Toshi three Entertainment. That's
- 55:27Speaker 1: our record label. The single is a Cradle in Bethley Ham.
- 55:30Speaker 1: The name of the Christmas album is My Colorful Christmas.
- 55:33Speaker 1: Thank you for Regina for coming on my show, Money
- 55:35Speaker 1: Making Conversation master Class for me. I hope I'll be bad.
- 55:38Speaker 1: Oh you will. Yeah, we're gonna go off and talk
- 55:41Speaker 1: about that. Reschedule it okay, But thank you for coming
- 55:43Speaker 1: on Money Making Conversation master Class. You've been listening to
- 55:45Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Always remember to
- 55:50Speaker 1: lead with your gifts. Money Making Conversations Masterclass is a
- 55:55Speaker 1: presentation of thirty eight fifteen Media Incorporated. You are now
- 56:00Speaker 1: tuned into the Money Making Conversations Minute of Inspiration with
- 56:04Speaker 1: Rashan McDonald. Hi Rashan McDonald for Money Making Conversation Masterclass
- 56:08Speaker 1: with your daily minute of Inspiration. This week I Said
- 56:10Speaker 1: That With comedian, actress, host, producer and Arthur Kim Whitley.
- 56:14Speaker 1: She explains why it is important to make sure you
- 56:16Speaker 1: feel good inside and out. I'm a firm a really
- 56:20Speaker 1: really firm believer in how you feel on the inside
- 56:23Speaker 1: will come out on the outside. A lot of water
- 56:26Speaker 1: is what they really make you drink. You stay hydrated,
- 56:29Speaker 1: your skin's gonna look good. Being happy on the inside, um,
- 56:33Speaker 1: I think it comes out because people are always like,
- 56:34Speaker 1: You're always so happy. I really try to maintain that
- 56:38Speaker 1: because I like to be an inspiration to so many people.
- 56:40Speaker 1: And when I look good and feel good, then I'm
- 56:43Speaker 1: even happier. You know. It's it's an up and down thing.
- 56:46Speaker 1: You know. Even if I lost through the powers, you know,
- 56:48Speaker 1: I might have gained some back right now, and now
- 56:51Speaker 1: it's just I get back on the journey. I mean,
- 56:53Speaker 1: I never stopped. Listen to this four interview with Kim Whitley.
- 56:56Speaker 1: It's available on Mighty Making Conversation dot com