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Overcoming the Odds: Her workbook is designed to help individuals overcome people-pleasing and prioritizing your own needs. · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Rashan McDonald. I host this weekly Money Making
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  Speaker 1: want you on this show.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get started. My guest new book, The Mirror Method
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  Speaker 1: Twelve Weeks to Stop Abandoning Yourself in a twelve week
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  Speaker 1: guided workbook designed to help you stop abandoning yourself and
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  Speaker 1: finally choose your own needs without guill Please welcome to
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  Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation Masterclass. Teresa Edwards. Hey you doing Teresa?
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  Speaker 2: Hi?
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  Speaker 1: You know it was a longer intro there, and I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to cut short a little bit because it was
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  Speaker 1: some things in that intro that I wanted to ask
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  Speaker 1: you directly, okay, And because I think that we all
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  Speaker 1: or have a pleasing personality. We want to please people,
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  Speaker 1: because we want nice things, people to think nice about us. Now,
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  Speaker 1: when does pleasing become extreme? Because that was a problem
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  Speaker 1: for you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it becomes extreme when you're doing it and you
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  Speaker 3: really don't want to do it, right, You got that
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  Speaker 3: feeling because I think that's one of my people. Pleasing
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  Speaker 3: is always want to you know, somebody ask me for help,
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  Speaker 3: even though I don't have the time, you know, and
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  Speaker 3: I'm stretched already thin. But then I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: they're my friend, so I gotta do it. But instead
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  Speaker 3: of setting those boundaries and say, hey, I don't have
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  Speaker 3: the time, okay.
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  Speaker 1: You know, and boundaries is a key, and so boundaries
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  Speaker 1: are key. So let's go on your background. They allow
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  Speaker 1: you to be to communic collect this are this based
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  Speaker 1: on just personal history?
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  Speaker 2: This book or this based on textbook.
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  Speaker 3: Study, personal history and just watching others? So but yees,
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  Speaker 3: definitely this is me telling my story and you know,
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  Speaker 3: trying to share what has helped me.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 3: So it was you know, it's always it's been an
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  Speaker 3: accumulative story, but it really came to head when I
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  Speaker 3: was laid off this last time, you know, and it's
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  Speaker 3: like I have given this company everything, but yet you're
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  Speaker 3: still not valuing what I am, and I found myself
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  Speaker 3: shrinking because especially being African American, being a woman in
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  Speaker 3: a corporate environment is all You're always on this tightrope
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  Speaker 3: because if you're assertive, then you call something else, you know,
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  Speaker 3: but then they expect you to be the yes person
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  Speaker 3: even though you know what they're doing is not right.
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  Speaker 3: So when you speak up, then you get penalized. So
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  Speaker 3: it's like that's cause of stress, and it causes all
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  Speaker 3: kind of health issues, and it's like, I can't keep
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  Speaker 3: doing this but to reach it.
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  Speaker 1: I've come from the corporate world, so I understand what
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  Speaker 1: you're talking about. And so there's a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: listening to this interview in the corporate world, in the
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  Speaker 1: entrepreneurial space, and all they want to do is win,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and sometimes there are cause factors that come there,
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  Speaker 1: all sorts pull health relationships.
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  Speaker 2: Twelve steps. You created twelve steps in your method.
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  Speaker 4: Why twelve steps because it took you a while to
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  Speaker 4: get to where you were, so it's going to take
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  Speaker 4: a while to unravel all that stuff, you know, all
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  Speaker 4: that junk that you have allowed to take presidents versus
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  Speaker 4: be letting your true self emerge.
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  Speaker 3: So it's all about unraveling. It's all about seeing what is,
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  Speaker 3: what has been the problem, identifying that, unraveling that, and
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  Speaker 3: then putting you first. There is not rediscovering somebody else.
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  Speaker 3: That's rediscovering the old you.
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  Speaker 1: Now, once people say the word you first, the next
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  Speaker 1: word that comes out is selfish. And I'm an advocate
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  Speaker 1: that selfish is not a negative world. It's not, and
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people want to use it as a
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  Speaker 1: negative word. Please talk to us why is not a
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  Speaker 1: negative word and why it's important to discovering yourself and
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  Speaker 1: also leading to a much more healthier and prosperous life.
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  Speaker 3: Selfish is never putting yourself and your health and your
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  Speaker 3: all that first. Never, It's never selfish. It is perseverance
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  Speaker 3: of yourself. So you can't be your best self if
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  Speaker 3: you're not your best self. How are you going to
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  Speaker 3: be your best for others if you're not best to
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  Speaker 3: you and you? And we tend to treat others to
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  Speaker 3: give more others, you know, more respect on how they feel,
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  Speaker 3: versus identifying how we feel and respecting our own feelings
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  Speaker 3: and how we want to move in this life and
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  Speaker 3: boundaries is a good thing. Selfish is not being I'm
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  Speaker 3: all about myself. It's setting boundaries and say hey, this
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  Speaker 3: is something that I cannot do or this is something
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  Speaker 3: that I will do, and just letting folks know. And
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  Speaker 3: then it's like, hey, if you can't respect that, then
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  Speaker 3: you don't respect me in the first place, right, right,
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  Speaker 3: So maybe maybe you're not supposed to be.
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  Speaker 2: In my life, right And that's important, And that's on
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  Speaker 2: this conversation.
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  Speaker 1: Some people say honest talk, and I think that that's
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  Speaker 1: what we're having this interview about this conversation because fear
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  Speaker 1: comes into the play because we all want to be successful. Yes, Teresa,
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  Speaker 1: but when did you realize you would hit that maybe
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  Speaker 1: bumping the road or that marking your life that I
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  Speaker 1: gotta change when.
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  Speaker 3: Your hell start telling you like okay, now keep playing,
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  Speaker 3: you have to change cause stress is that silent killer.
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  Speaker 3: We all know that. And then was.
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  Speaker 1: It a doctor visit was it you sitting in a
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  Speaker 1: dark room because people are dealing with this every day and.
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  Speaker 2: Some people don't want to go to the doctor.
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  Speaker 3: It's everything. I mean, the doctor is that one is
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  Speaker 3: I guess saying okay, now the metrics in front of you, Yes,
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  Speaker 3: it puts but you already know inside of you that
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  Speaker 3: you're not right, You're not happy, and why can't Why
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  Speaker 3: is it not okay for you to be happy? Everybody
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  Speaker 3: else is making everybody else around you happy, so why
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  Speaker 3: not put you first? So it was those those those
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  Speaker 3: really conversations with myself.
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  Speaker 1: Right now, let's talk about this because I want people
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  Speaker 1: to understand that this conversation, this interview that we're having
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  Speaker 1: right now is about looking in the mirror and saying enough,
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  Speaker 1: it's enough, enough enough. And that could be to your children,
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  Speaker 1: to the person that you love, your mate, your husband
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  Speaker 1: or your wife, your girlfriend, your boyfriend, your job, your church.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody can abuse a pleaser, and the pleaser can't be
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  Speaker 1: the person who's the saddest person in the room. I
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  Speaker 1: always tell people you can't throw a party, and you
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  Speaker 1: mad at your own party, And that's what I done.
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  Speaker 2: I think you're doing that.
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  Speaker 1: You know they're out there, it was supposed to be
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  Speaker 1: having a good time, but you look at their face
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  Speaker 1: and it's sad or angry.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And now this conversation, when I right across your method,
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  Speaker 1: your technique.
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  Speaker 2: That's why I asked you earlier. You know a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people talk.
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  Speaker 1: About these techniques from their journalistic or their educational background.
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  Speaker 1: You're talking about technique developed from your personal experience.
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  Speaker 3: My personal experience. Talk to us, and it's really about
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  Speaker 3: listening to the old youth. It's rediscovering you because we
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  Speaker 3: all we all have that intuition, we have that voice
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  Speaker 3: that's telling all night you know you shouldn't do that.
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  Speaker 3: So and it's just really just undoing those people pleasing
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  Speaker 3: patterns where you're not putting yourself first and putting yourself
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  Speaker 3: first and making sure that you're happy, you're happy with
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  Speaker 3: what you're doing. And it's like, for example, you know, well,
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  Speaker 3: you're talking about children, because I have an adult child,
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  Speaker 3: and it's really sometimes it's about her. But I had
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  Speaker 3: to learn from her too, because she said boundaries with me.
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  Speaker 3: So it's like, you know what, that is not a
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  Speaker 3: bad thing because she's like, Mom, I can't do this
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  Speaker 3: so and it's like, you're right, that's unfair for me
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  Speaker 3: to ask you to do something that you can't possibly
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  Speaker 3: give me your best. But I have to also reciprocate
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  Speaker 3: that too, because she's ready, like hey, when stuff hit
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  Speaker 3: the fan, here comes mom. You know, the savior. It's like,
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  Speaker 3: I can't put my household in jeopardy because of some
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  Speaker 3: of the decisions you made. So yeah, so it definitely
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  Speaker 3: comes from really just having those conversations with yourself that
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  Speaker 3: you already know. Really, it's really kind of just all
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  Speaker 3: about reminding yourself of who you were and stepping into
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  Speaker 3: that power so you can still be.
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  Speaker 1: Now it's important returning to yourself. Let's talk about that,
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  Speaker 1: because I feel that a lot of people to get
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  Speaker 1: a certain age, they kind of throw their arms up
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  Speaker 1: in the air. They give up because I'm forty, I'm fifty,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sixty and seventy. I always tell people stop using
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  Speaker 1: age as an excuse. And when I'm listening to returning
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  Speaker 1: to yourself, that's what you're saying. There's an opportunity to
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  Speaker 1: recover your lovel or disappointment at any age or direction
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  Speaker 1: that you're leaving or living your life. Returning to yourself.
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  Speaker 1: Talk to us, returning to yourself. You're number too old
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  Speaker 1: who says that there's.
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  Speaker 3: A limit on being happy. There's no time spend on
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  Speaker 3: when or how I can be happy. I'm happy until
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  Speaker 3: I'm no longer here, right, so you have to just
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  Speaker 3: I had well, my blood pressure was up at one time,
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  Speaker 3: and the doctor, Look, what do you call up where
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  Speaker 3: it was. She's trying to put me on some medication. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and she's like, I don't know what's going on in
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  Speaker 3: your life, but that has changed. But you need to
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  Speaker 3: fix this because this is not where you want to be.
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  Speaker 3: And it's like, DoD, you're right, And I had to
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  Speaker 3: go home and I had to clean out. Everybody had
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  Speaker 3: to go because that was so a lot of us
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  Speaker 3: tied to stress and also stressed affected your health, undue
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  Speaker 3: stress that I allow to be put on me because
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  Speaker 3: at the end of the day.
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  Speaker 1: I start making those changes to reasons, A lot of
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  Speaker 1: people not happy when you start making these changes, A
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  Speaker 1: lot of people are not happy.
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  Speaker 3: Well, who's gonna be happy? Me or you?
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  Speaker 1: But I'm saying, we're talking to people out there who
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  Speaker 1: want to do these things.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to make it sound like it's easy
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  Speaker 2: to do.
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  Speaker 3: No, it's never easy.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: People, when you started making these adjustments, how do you
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  Speaker 1: make these adjustments so there's some level of comfort for
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  Speaker 1: yourself because you don't want to make people mad, But.
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  Speaker 2: There is some people who are going to be mad,
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  Speaker 2: are disappointed.
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  Speaker 3: And that's okay because if they can't accept the you
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  Speaker 3: and the set and the boundary. They weren't for you anyway,
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  Speaker 3: so you have to be okay with losing some of
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  Speaker 3: those folks that were draining you in the first place.
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  Speaker 3: So it's a win win, it's a win win.
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  Speaker 2: But please don't go anywhere.
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  Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more Money Making Conversations Master Class.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to Money Making Conversations Master Class with me
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  Speaker 1: Rashaun McDonald. It's always going to be a win win
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  Speaker 1: because of the fact that, you know, I looked through
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  Speaker 1: my life.
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  Speaker 2: I grew up with six sisters and two brothers, Okay.
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  Speaker 1: And I always remember my brother who's right after me,
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  Speaker 1: follow me through high school, you know, so he had
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  Speaker 1: to live with the you know, the accnfidence spent that
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  Speaker 1: I had, and I didn't understand how it affected him.
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  Speaker 1: And because I was living my life, I was trying
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  Speaker 1: to Hey, I'm trying to learn my own steps.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know who I am.
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  Speaker 1: And so sometimes when you don't know the impact that
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  Speaker 1: you have on people because you're so busy trying to
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  Speaker 1: grow yourself up. And so this conversation we're having is
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  Speaker 1: about allowing yourself to grow but in the process of growing,
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  Speaker 1: you got less certain situations that you have been consistently
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  Speaker 1: involved in.
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  Speaker 3: Go yes, that's been draining you in the first place. Right,
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  Speaker 3: my happiness will come first, period.
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  Speaker 1: Now in your work for twelve weeks by design? What
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  Speaker 1: transformation is possible in twelve weeks that wasn't happening in.
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  Speaker 2: People's day to day lives before.
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  Speaker 1: Because we talking about twelve weeks, you know roughly you
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  Speaker 1: know three to four months, you know, depending on how
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  Speaker 1: you want to pattern out your twelve weeks?
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  Speaker 2: What what what? How could it happen?
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  Speaker 3: When?
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  Speaker 1: The reason I say that because you can you can
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  Speaker 1: you skip a week or you have to do twelve
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  Speaker 1: straight weeks.
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  Speaker 3: It's still at your pace, okay, because not not each week,
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  Speaker 3: because I got it broken down, so it is expands
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  Speaker 3: across a couple of days and you're actually working and
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  Speaker 3: answering questions. So it's deep. You're you're going within yourself.
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  Speaker 3: So sometimes if you're not ready to move on to
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  Speaker 3: the next week, that's what I'm saying, that is okay,
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  Speaker 3: because it's still you. Is about you and building you.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about getting into this.
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  Speaker 1: If I'm talking to Teresa ed which your book about
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  Speaker 1: changing your lives The Mirror Method.
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  Speaker 2: Where can we go get that book? What website? What's
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  Speaker 2: the name of your website?
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  Speaker 3: It would be it's it's on Amazon. Okay. My website
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  Speaker 3: is the Mirror Method Workbook dot com. And I also
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  Speaker 3: have it in downloadable where you can just you know,
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  Speaker 3: is where you can feel it, right, you know, right
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  Speaker 3: there right versus having an actual boo because some people
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  Speaker 3: don't write no more.
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  Speaker 2: So I got it.
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  Speaker 1: However you need it's ready, you're ready technology. You taking
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  Speaker 1: advantage of yes, because we're talking about truths.
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  Speaker 2: Correct, you know your truth? Well, you know.
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  Speaker 1: It's my truth, but it's also tied to the people
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  Speaker 1: that I'm impacting, and so can I ask you this?
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  Speaker 2: Your people? Please it?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I don't know people please it? But I like
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  Speaker 1: people to like me, and sometimes I don't. And most
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  Speaker 1: people say I'm just a straight shooter, and sometimes I
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  Speaker 1: say things that a lot of people can't believe. I say,
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  Speaker 1: will you it's a person who's accepting of a people pleaser,
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  Speaker 1: a user.
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  Speaker 3: Accepting of people.
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  Speaker 1: You know, come on, you know, when you get no
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  Speaker 1: wrong people, you can make that phone calls. You come over,
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  Speaker 1: take care of the kids, right right right right? Their
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  Speaker 1: users so so want to point that out because that's
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  Speaker 1: important that people who are pleasing people.
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  Speaker 2: Are not working with people who have their best interests.
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  Speaker 1: And so you so having that user in your life
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  Speaker 1: is never going to be the right person that come
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  Speaker 1: to you, that you go to for advice or trying
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  Speaker 1: to change the values that don't benefit them talk to me.
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  Speaker 3: So those are the poines you need to leave anyway.
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  Speaker 3: That is see, that's the purpose of the book. So
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  Speaker 3: now you're recognizing that what you're doing is allowing users
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  Speaker 3: to continue using and still not putting you first. So
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  Speaker 3: if folks are not a line in your setting your boundaries,
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  Speaker 3: then there was probably pulling from you in the first place.
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  Speaker 3: So then that's okay, right, that is okay And a
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  Speaker 3: good way of I guess making that known is like,
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  Speaker 3: why are you still people pleasing someone that taken from you?
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  Speaker 3: When in a relationship is given take, it can't be
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  Speaker 3: all all you giving and they just taking.
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  Speaker 1: Now, with that being said, what do you believe is
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  Speaker 1: the hardest truth to resell? When you people confront themselves
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  Speaker 1: when they finally stop and look in the mirror. Because
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  Speaker 1: this is about the mirror method, which is important because
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  Speaker 1: you're looking in the mirror, confronting yourself.
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  Speaker 3: Talk to me, the hardest thing of confronting yourself is,
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  Speaker 3: I guess when say believe in those truths or those
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  Speaker 3: lies that you've been telling yourself and actually seeing the truth,
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  Speaker 3: that's about what's really going on. Because like when you're
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  Speaker 3: in relationships, even with your spouse, you can you know
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  Speaker 3: now it's okay for we know it's a compromise. But
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  Speaker 3: it comes to a point where it's if you're always
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  Speaker 3: the one giving, right, and then that mirror method is
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  Speaker 3: putting it in your face like, hey, you're the one
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  Speaker 3: is always giving, So why are you always giving? What
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  Speaker 3: are you getting? And why aren't you standing how these
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  Speaker 3: kids say standing on business to make sure you're getting
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  Speaker 3: something too. You're the one that is always giving. So
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  Speaker 3: it's that realization that hey, you gotta change, right.
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  Speaker 1: So when we talk about this, if someone completes the
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  Speaker 1: mirror method right and fully commits, when you use the
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  Speaker 1: word fully commits, what does that mean?
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  Speaker 3: Fully commit is accepting all those good, better or ugly
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  Speaker 3: moments that you're gonna have to revisit and actually be
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  Speaker 3: okay with, and that includes some people you're gonna have
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  Speaker 3: to let go and be okay with that. You're gonna
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  Speaker 3: have to be okay with that.
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  Speaker 1: And it's all tied to your book that you can
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  Speaker 1: get through Amazon. And then you said something about online
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  Speaker 1: if they don't have a pen and paper, right, you.
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  Speaker 3: Can all you can download it where you can just
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  Speaker 3: you know, have it on your computer and just go
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  Speaker 3: in and enter it that way where it's fillable, or
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  Speaker 3: you can actually download it and just have the paper itself,
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  Speaker 3: you know, like going to you just printer, just print
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  Speaker 3: it out. So it's however you want to get it,
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  Speaker 3: it is there for you.
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  Speaker 2: So we're talking about truth. That's what's all this interview
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  Speaker 2: about you.
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  Speaker 3: What was your.
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  Speaker 1: Hardest truth and what do you think the average person's
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: hardest truth when they're going through the mirror method process.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: My hardest truth is really setting those boundaries and standing
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: on those boundaries, and folks that you thought were there,
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  Speaker 3: you got the realization that they truly wasn't there, and
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: then that that missing or that morning of that person.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: But then once you get through your mourning of that person,
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: you realize the person wasn't for you in first place.
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  Speaker 3: So that's that free up some space for others. That's
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: truly gonna rock with you, to continue rocking with you.
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  Speaker 1: I do, that's right, Teresa Everwards. She created her book
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  Speaker 1: The Mirror Method from our own journey of overcoming people
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  Speaker 1: pleasing and emotional exhaustion, and each week she offers simple,
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  Speaker 1: honest exercise that lead to your real inner transformation. That's
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: the key here. You know, we're all trying to make money,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: but you're trying to change lives. You're trying to help
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  Speaker 1: people be better. We live in a society where, you know,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: for the first time and our Black life, we use
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: the word therapy.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: That was a no note in the black community, say
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  Speaker 2: you're going to therapy. Was it COVID that.
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  Speaker 1: Made that adjustment in our community or we were just
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: headed in that direction.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: I think it was a little bit of both. But
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: COVID definitely brought it to the forefront quickly and we
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: saw that, hey, we need help because the mind is
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: a muscle too. So sometimes just like you go to
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: the gym to build your body, you got to build
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: you You got to have your mind too. And even you know,
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: I expressed that sometimes and I'm dealing with, you know,
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: talking with folks, and it's like it's okay to go
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: sit on sitting on that couch. You know. Now everything's virtual.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: You don't necessarily have to go physically, but that muscle
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: you need somebody that has no agenda, you know, they
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: can truly give you those tools you know to because
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: we always want to just.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Not trying to give away the concept, but what are
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: some of the tools that you're talking about?
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: So for in my book and tools is more of
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: just that inner self of just writing, because you know,
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: writing that stuff, whether you type it in on a
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: computer or just writing it down, that's really that realization
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: of what's going on. Because you can think it all
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: you want to, but when you put that thing on
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  Speaker 3: paper literally, you know, then you see it and it's
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: like okay, okay. So you don't have to use any
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: kind of tools per se other than your fingers. But
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: it's more of you getting okay with who you used
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: to be and saying that that is okay, awesome, that
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: is okay.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: I really appreciate you. Terricha.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: You know The Mirror Method Twelve Weeks to Stop Abandoning Yourself.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: It's a twelve week guided workbook designed to help you
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: stop abandoning yourself and finally choose your own needs without
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: guilt as we close out this interview without guilt, because
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: the word guilt can hang on people hardy, really hard.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: What do you mean when you say without guilt.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: That guilt and almost like morning that you're going to
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: lose some people and making sure that you are okay
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: with that because it's going to be okay. It is
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: all in your best interests. And that's what it is
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: about finding that what you used to be and making
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: and saying that old person was okay, you know all
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: these new stuff not necessarily okay, and just being just
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: be okay with being okay.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: I love that. I love it again. Where can we
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: get your book?
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: You can get it from Amazon or you go to
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: the Mirror Methodworkbook dot com and it has everything that
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: you need either Amazon or downloaded.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Well, thank you for coming on Money Making Conversations. She's
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: the one and only Tuisa Evers. Her book, The Mirror
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  Speaker 1: Method Twelve Weeks to Stop Abandoning Yourself is a twelve
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: week guided workbook designed to help you stop abandoning yourself
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  Speaker 1: and finally choose your own needs a purpose without guilt.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Thanks for coming on my shelf.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
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