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Is Home Education Right for Us? Answering a Listener's Questions · Home Education Matters

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Welcome
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to
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Home
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Education
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Matters,
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the
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weekly
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podcast
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supporting
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you
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on
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your
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home
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education
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journey.
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Welcome
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to
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another
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episode
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of
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Home
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Education
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Matters.
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And
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today
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I'm
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joined
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by
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Nicola
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and
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we
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are
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going
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to
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be
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talking
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through
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some
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of
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those
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questions,
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concerns,
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disposal,
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doubts
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that
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you
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have
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before
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you
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start
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home
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educating.
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And
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we're
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going
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to
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be
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doing
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it
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kind
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of
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in
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real
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time
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because
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Nicola
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is
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in
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that
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process
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where
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she's
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thinking
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about
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whether
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she
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should
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home
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educate
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or
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not,
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but
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she
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has
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questions
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and
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she
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has
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things
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that
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she's
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worried
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about.
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So
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I
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thought
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that
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I'd
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invite
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Nicola
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on,
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I
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can
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kind
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of
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share
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with
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you
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all
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listening
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some
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of
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the
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answers
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that
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I
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would
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give
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to
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somebody
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who
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is
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thinking
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about
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home
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education
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that
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might
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help
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people
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listening
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who
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are
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a
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bit
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on
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the
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fence
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or
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a
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little
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bit
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concerned
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about
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the
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process.
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So
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first,
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firstly,
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Nicola,
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thank
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you
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so
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much
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for
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coming
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on
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the
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podcast
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today.
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Do
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you
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want
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to
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tell
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our
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listeners
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a
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little
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bit
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about
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the
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kind
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of
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background
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to
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why
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you're
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thinking
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about
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home
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education?
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Sure.
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Hi,
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Eleanor,
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thank
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you
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for
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having
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me.
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So
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I
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have
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been
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aware
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of
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home
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education
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for,
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for
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a
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while.
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My
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eldest
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has
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just
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turned
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eight
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and
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when
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she
1:16
first
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went
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to
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school
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it
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was
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Covid
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era
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and
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things
1:22
were
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a
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bit
1:22
up
1:22
in
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the
1:23
air.
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She
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didn't
1:24
go
1:24
to
1:24
nursery
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till
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she
1:25
was
1:26
three,
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so
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she
1:26
had
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a
1:27
few,
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a
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few
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days
1:27
a
1:27
week
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while
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I
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was
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working
1:30
and
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then
1:30
she
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started
1:33
school.
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But
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it
1:33
all
1:33
seemed,
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she
1:34
seemed
1:34
very
1:34
young.
1:35
She
1:35
was
1:35
a
1:36
summer
1:36
holidays
1:37
baby
1:37
and
1:38
she
1:38
was
1:38
just
1:39
for
1:40
starting
1:41
in
1:41
reception.
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So
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I
1:44
found
1:44
out
1:44
from
1:44
a
1:44
friend
1:45
I
1:45
didn't
1:45
know
1:46
myself,
1:46
but
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she
1:47
was
1:47
putting
1:47
her
1:47
child
1:47
in
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part
1:48
time.
1:48
I
1:48
didn't
1:48
even
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know
1:49
that
1:49
was
1:49
an
1:49
option.
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So
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I
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emailed
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the
1:51
school
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and
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they
1:52
reluctantly
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agreed
1:53
that
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she
1:54
could
1:54
start
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part
1:55
time.
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So
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she
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did
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and
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she
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did
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three
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days
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a
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week,
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I
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think,
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initially,
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but
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she
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missed.
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One
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of
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the
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days
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she
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missed
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was
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a
2:03
Friday
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and
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it
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was
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unusual.
2:05
I
2:05
could
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tell
2:06
in
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the
2:06
school
2:06
that,
2:06
you
2:07
know,
2:07
a
2:07
lot
2:07
of
2:07
people
2:07
didn't
2:08
do
2:08
that
2:08
and
2:09
the
2:10
teacher
2:10
definitely
2:11
put
2:11
some
2:12
pressure
2:12
on.
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What
2:13
would
2:13
you
2:13
say,
2:13
you
2:14
know,
2:14
to
2:15
bring
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her
2:15
back
2:15
in,
2:15
you
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know,
2:16
sort
2:16
of
2:16
the
2:17
phonics.
2:17
We
2:17
consolidate
2:18
all
2:18
our
2:18
learning
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on
2:18
the
2:18
Friday
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and
2:19
she's
2:19
missing
2:20
that.
2:21
She
2:21
said,
2:21
I
2:21
think,
2:21
you
2:21
know,
2:21
she
2:22
needs
2:22
to
2:22
see
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a
2:22
speech
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therapist
2:23
because
2:23
she's,
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she's
2:25
struggling
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with
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the
2:26
hearing,
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the
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sounds
2:27
and
2:28
pronunciation
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and
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she's
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not
2:30
getting
2:30
the
2:30
right
2:31
words
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out
2:31
and
2:31
that
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maybe
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it's
2:32
hindering
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her
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reading
2:33
and
2:33
things.
2:34
This
2:34
all
2:34
came
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quite
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as
2:35
a
2:35
shock
2:36
to
2:36
me,
2:36
I
2:36
suppose,
2:36
because
2:36
I,
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I
2:38
could
2:38
tell
2:38
maybe
2:38
that
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her
2:39
speech
2:39
wasn't
2:39
perfect,
2:40
but
2:40
I'd
2:41
always
2:41
kind
2:41
of
2:41
Interpreted
2:42
for
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her
2:42
as
2:42
mums
2:43
do.
2:43
And
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to
2:45
me
2:45
she
2:46
seemed
2:46
like
2:46
she
2:46
was
2:46
doing
2:46
really
2:47
well.
2:47
You
2:47
know
2:47
she,
2:47
from
2:49
before
2:49
she
2:49
was
2:49
2,
2:50
she
2:50
could
2:50
name
2:50
all
2:50
the
2:50
dinosaurs
2:51
and
2:51
numbers
2:52
and
2:52
the
2:52
colors
2:52
and
2:52
you
2:53
know
2:53
she's.
2:54
That's
2:54
the
2:54
first
2:54
time
2:55
I
2:55
thought
2:55
she
2:55
was
2:55
doing
2:55
well
2:56
but.
2:56
And
2:56
the
2:57
teacher
2:57
started
2:57
talking
2:57
about
2:58
oh
2:58
maybe
2:58
she's
2:59
got
2:59
learning
3:00
delays
3:00
and
3:00
things
3:01
like
3:01
that.
3:01
And
3:02
so
3:02
it's
3:02
kind
3:02
of
3:03
pushed
3:03
me
3:03
to
3:04
support
3:04
her
3:04
in.
3:04
So
3:05
she
3:05
did
3:05
by
3:06
the
3:06
end
3:06
of
3:06
the
3:06
year
3:06
go
3:07
go
3:07
full
3:07
time.
3:08
At
3:09
that
3:09
point
3:09
I
3:11
asked
3:11
her
3:11
how
3:12
she
3:12
found
3:12
school
3:13
because
3:13
I
3:13
did
3:14
offer
3:14
to
3:14
home
3:15
educated
3:15
because
3:15
I
3:15
was
3:15
off
3:16
at
3:16
that
3:16
point
3:16
with
3:16
my
3:18
second
3:18
Doctor
3:18
who.
3:19
I
3:19
was
3:19
on
3:19
maternity
3:20
leave.
3:20
But
3:20
she
3:21
loved
3:21
it,
3:21
she
3:21
loved
3:21
school
3:22
and
3:22
she'd
3:23
gone
3:23
to
3:23
school
3:23
with
3:24
quite
3:24
a
3:25
few
3:25
close
3:25
buddies
3:25
that
3:26
had
3:26
been
3:26
to
3:26
her
3:26
nursery
3:27
and
3:27
she
3:28
was
3:28
very
3:28
happy.
3:28
I
3:28
suppose
3:28
it
3:29
was
3:29
play
3:29
based
3:29
learning
3:29
then
3:30
so
3:30
she
3:30
was
3:31
quite
3:31
content.
3:33
So
3:34
she
3:34
stayed.
3:35
But
3:36
then
3:36
she
3:37
moved
3:37
into
3:37
year
3:38
one
3:38
and
3:38
there's
3:38
a
3:38
little
3:38
bit
3:39
of
3:39
continuous
3:39
provision
3:39
I
3:40
think.
3:40
And
3:40
then
3:41
that
3:41
was
3:41
kind
3:41
of
3:42
petered
3:42
out
3:42
through
3:42
that
3:43
year.
3:44
Years
3:44
two
3:44
and
3:44
three,
3:45
sorry
3:46
one
3:46
and
3:46
two,
3:46
she
3:46
had
3:46
the
3:47
same
3:47
teacher
3:47
and
3:48
she
3:48
really
3:48
loved
3:48
her
3:48
and
3:48
that
3:49
helped
3:49
I
3:49
think
3:49
to
3:50
kind
3:50
of
3:50
keep
3:50
her
3:51
happier
3:51
there.
3:53
But
3:53
then
3:54
things
3:55
really
3:55
started
3:55
to
3:56
unravel
3:56
at
3:56
the
3:56
end
3:57
of.
3:57
Well
3:58
throughout
3:58
year
3:58
three
3:58
I
3:59
suppose
3:59
she
3:59
had
3:59
a
3:59
few
3:59
different
4:00
teachers
4:00
things.
4:01
I
4:01
just
4:02
had
4:02
a.
4:02
My
4:03
third
4:03
child
4:04
and
4:05
she
4:06
was
4:07
just
4:07
so
4:07
unhappy.
4:08
Every
4:08
time
4:08
she
4:08
was
4:09
going
4:09
into
4:09
school
4:09
it
4:09
was.
4:10
She
4:10
didn't
4:10
want
4:10
to
4:11
go
4:11
and
4:12
she
4:12
just
4:12
was.
4:14
She
4:14
just
4:14
seem,
4:15
I
4:15
don't
4:15
know
4:15
how
4:15
to
4:16
describe
4:16
it
4:16
but
4:16
as,
4:17
as
4:17
if
4:17
the
4:17
light
4:18
just
4:18
went
4:18
out
4:18
and
4:19
she
4:19
was
4:19
this
4:19
bubbly,
4:20
happy,
4:21
playful
4:22
kid
4:22
and
4:23
everything
4:24
seemed
4:24
to
4:24
bother
4:24
her.
4:24
She'd
4:25
say,
4:25
you
4:25
know,
4:25
all
4:25
the
4:26
kids
4:26
hate
4:26
me,
4:26
I've
4:26
got
4:27
no
4:27
friends.
4:28
She
4:28
did
4:28
seem
4:29
to
4:29
have
4:29
like
4:29
a
4:29
close
4:29
friend
4:30
but
4:31
everything
4:31
seemed
4:32
to
4:32
just
4:33
be
4:33
too
4:33
much
4:33
on
4:34
the
4:34
social
4:34
side
4:34
of
4:35
things.
4:35
I
4:35
kept
4:35
speaking
4:35
to
4:36
the
4:36
school
4:36
and
4:36
they
4:37
said,
4:37
you
4:38
know,
4:38
everything's
4:38
fine.
4:38
She
4:39
runs
4:39
around
4:39
the
4:39
playground,
4:40
everything
4:40
seems
4:40
fine
4:41
with
4:41
her.
4:41
But
4:42
she
4:42
was
4:42
coming
4:42
home
4:43
and
4:43
you
4:43
know,
4:43
just
4:44
every
4:44
night,
4:44
oh,
4:45
I
4:45
hate
4:45
school,
4:45
I
4:46
don't
4:46
want
4:46
to
4:46
be
4:46
there.
4:46
And
4:47
it
4:47
all
4:48
I
4:48
guess
4:48
came
4:48
to
4:49
a
4:49
head
4:49
near
4:49
the
4:50
end
4:50
of
4:51
last
4:51
year
4:52
when
4:52
she
4:52
said
4:53
to
4:53
my
4:54
aunt
4:54
that
4:54
she
4:54
wanted
4:55
to,
4:59
she
4:59
didn't
5:00
want
5:00
to
5:00
carry
5:00
on
5:01
lizards.
5:04
Which
5:04
obviously
5:05
was
5:06
very
5:06
upsetting
5:07
to,
5:07
to
5:08
hear
5:08
and
5:10
I
5:10
couldn't
5:10
even
5:11
understand
5:11
that
5:11
she
5:11
even
5:11
knew
5:12
those
5:12
words.
5:13
And
5:14
she
5:14
talked
5:14
about
5:14
how
5:14
she
5:15
was
5:15
going
5:15
to
5:15
do
5:15
it
5:15
and
5:18
I
5:18
just
5:18
said,
5:18
you
5:19
know,
5:19
that's,
5:19
that's
5:20
enough,
5:21
you
5:21
know,
5:23
we
5:23
have
5:23
to
5:24
we
5:24
have
5:24
to
5:24
take
5:24
her
5:24
out.
5:24
But
5:25
I
5:25
didn't
5:25
know
5:26
how
5:27
we
5:27
were
5:27
going
5:27
to
5:27
do
5:28
it.
5:29
I
5:29
didn't
5:29
really
5:29
have
5:30
anybody
5:30
on
5:31
my
5:31
side,
5:31
if
5:32
you
5:32
like.
5:33
My
5:33
husband
5:34
was
5:34
not
5:34
exactly
5:35
supportive
5:35
of
5:35
it,
5:36
didn't
5:36
seem
5:36
to
5:36
understand
5:36
it.
5:37
Thought
5:37
you
5:37
needed
5:37
to
5:38
be
5:38
a
5:38
teacher
5:39
to
5:39
have
5:39
done
5:39
itself
5:40
or,
5:41
you
5:41
know,
5:41
and
5:41
he's
5:42
like,
5:42
you've
5:42
got
5:42
the
5:42
baby
5:42
and
5:44
Lillian,
5:45
you
5:45
know,
5:45
just,
5:46
you
5:46
don't
5:47
have
5:47
the
5:47
time.
5:47
You're
5:47
working.
5:49
How
5:49
are
5:49
we
5:50
managing
5:50
it?
5:51
And
5:51
it
5:51
was
5:51
always
5:52
dismissed.
5:54
But
5:55
just
5:55
before
5:56
this,
5:56
before
5:56
some
5:57
holidays,
5:58
I
5:58
just
5:59
had
5:59
a
5:59
real
5:59
heart
6:00
with
6:00
him
6:00
and
6:00
said,
6:01
you
6:01
know,
6:02
it's
6:02
been
6:02
on
6:03
my
6:03
radar
6:03
for
6:03
years,
6:04
but
6:04
I've
6:04
always.
6:05
There's
6:05
a
6:05
million
6:06
reasons
6:06
why
6:06
you
6:06
don't
6:07
do
6:07
it,
6:07
isn't
6:07
there?
6:07
You
6:07
know,
6:08
you
6:08
can
6:08
easily
6:08
talk
6:08
yourself
6:09
out
6:09
of
6:09
it.
6:09
It's
6:10
just
6:10
the
6:10
norm.
6:10
It's
6:11
the
6:11
standard.
6:11
Everybody
6:12
does
6:12
it.
6:12
And
6:13
to
6:13
move
6:13
away
6:13
from
6:14
that
6:14
is
6:14
quite
6:14
scary,
6:14
I
6:14
guess.
6:15
So
6:16
I
6:17
really
6:18
kind
6:19
of
6:20
gave
6:20
my
6:20
side
6:20
of
6:21
why
6:21
I
6:21
wanted
6:21
to
6:21
do
6:22
it.
6:23
Said
6:23
that,
6:23
you
6:23
know,
6:23
I
6:23
feel
6:24
like
6:24
we're
6:24
losing
6:24
her.
6:24
She's.
6:25
She's
6:25
just
6:26
becoming
6:26
this,
6:27
this
6:28
kind
6:29
of
6:29
introverted
6:30
kid
6:31
that,
6:31
you
6:31
know,
6:32
she
6:32
doesn't
6:32
want
6:33
to
6:33
join
6:34
in
6:34
with
6:34
things.
6:34
She's
6:35
dreading
6:35
school
6:36
every
6:36
day.
6:36
She's
6:37
only
6:37
herself
6:38
for
6:38
like
6:38
Saturday
6:38
and
6:39
then
6:39
Sunday.
6:39
She's
6:39
already
6:40
upset
6:41
for
6:41
the
6:41
next
6:42
day.
6:42
And,
6:43
and
6:44
he
6:44
finally
6:45
listened
6:45
and
6:45
kind
6:46
of
6:46
told
6:46
I.
6:46
I've
6:47
just
6:47
blurted
6:47
out
6:47
everything
6:48
I'd
6:48
ever
6:48
heard
6:48
from
6:49
every
6:49
podcast,
6:49
every.
6:50
Everybody
6:51
that
6:51
I
6:51
follow
6:52
who's
6:52
into
6:52
home
6:53
Ed,
6:53
and,
6:54
And
6:54
he
6:54
just
6:55
said,
6:55
all
6:56
right,
6:56
okay.
6:56
You
6:57
know,
6:57
I
6:57
said
6:58
to
6:58
him,
6:58
I
6:58
can't
6:58
do
6:58
this
6:59
without
6:59
you.
6:59
If
6:59
you're
6:59
not
6:59
on
7:00
board.
7:00
I.
7:01
It's
7:01
too,
7:02
it's
7:02
too
7:02
much.
7:03
But
7:03
he
7:04
started
7:04
reading
7:04
up
7:05
about
7:05
it
7:05
and
7:06
yeah,
7:06
he
7:06
said,
7:07
you're
7:07
right,
7:07
it's
7:08
what
7:08
we
7:08
need
7:08
to
7:08
do,
7:09
so
7:10
let's
7:10
work
7:10
out
7:11
a
7:11
way
7:11
that
7:11
we
7:11
can
7:11
do
7:12
it.
7:12
But
7:13
obviously
7:13
it
7:13
is
7:13
still
7:13
a
7:13
massive
7:14
decision
7:15
and
7:15
I've
7:15
been
7:15
trying
7:16
to
7:17
educate
7:17
myself,
7:17
I
7:18
suppose,
7:19
and
7:20
work
7:20
out
7:20
how
7:21
I
7:21
can
7:21
do
7:21
it
7:21
logistically
7:22
with
7:22
reducing
7:23
my
7:23
hours
7:23
at
7:24
work.
7:24
So
7:24
that's
7:24
where
7:24
we're
7:25
at
7:25
at
7:25
the
7:25
moment
7:25
as
7:25
to
7:26
when
7:27
and
7:27
how
7:27
to.
7:27
To
7:28
take
7:28
the
7:28
leap.
7:29
She
7:30
has
7:30
gone
7:31
back
7:32
this
7:32
year
7:32
because
7:33
when
7:33
she,
7:34
my
7:35
younger
7:35
daughter,
7:36
wanted
7:36
to,
7:37
was
7:37
going
7:37
to
7:38
start
7:38
reception
7:38
again
7:39
part
7:39
time,
7:40
she
7:40
was
7:41
doing
7:41
three
7:41
days.
7:42
We
7:42
asked
7:42
for
7:42
a
7:42
delayed
7:43
start
7:43
because
7:43
I
7:44
realized
7:44
that
7:44
was
7:44
an
7:44
option,
7:45
but
7:45
went
7:45
through
7:46
all
7:46
the
7:46
layers
7:47
of
7:47
different
7:48
local
7:48
authority
7:49
and
7:49
governors
7:49
and
7:50
all
7:50
that,
7:50
and
7:50
it
7:50
was
7:50
just
7:50
a
7:51
null.
7:51
Salford's
7:52
really
7:52
notoriously
7:52
difficult,
7:53
apparently,
7:54
to
7:54
get
7:54
a
7:54
delayed
7:55
start.
7:55
So
7:55
she
7:55
does
7:56
three
7:56
days
7:56
a
7:56
week.
7:57
And
7:57
I
7:57
thought
7:57
in
7:57
a
7:58
way
7:58
that
7:58
could
7:58
help
7:58
me
7:58
if
7:59
she
7:59
does
7:59
that
8:00
a
8:00
little
8:00
bit,
8:00
because
8:01
she
8:01
loves
8:02
reception.
8:02
She
8:02
walks
8:03
in,
8:03
she
8:03
doesn't
8:03
even
8:04
look
8:04
back.
8:04
She's
8:04
happy.
8:05
It's
8:05
all
8:05
play.
8:06
Then
8:07
I
8:07
can
8:07
hopefully
8:08
in
8:08
the
8:08
next
8:09
couple
8:09
of
8:09
weeks,
8:09
bring
8:09
Lucy
8:10
out
8:10
and
8:11
focus
8:12
on
8:12
her
8:13
more
8:13
in
8:14
this
8:14
first
8:14
year
8:15
to
8:15
get
8:15
started.
8:16
So
8:17
it
8:17
sounds
8:17
like
8:17
you
8:18
felt
8:18
that
8:19
there
8:19
was
8:19
no
8:20
option
8:20
but
8:21
to
8:21
home
8:21
educate
8:22
and
8:22
that.
8:22
And
8:23
it
8:23
feels
8:23
like
8:24
it's
8:25
the
8:25
right
8:25
thing
8:26
to
8:26
do,
8:26
but
8:26
also
8:26
a
8:27
very
8:27
scary
8:27
thing
8:28
to
8:28
do
8:28
because
8:28
it's
8:28
really
8:29
unknown.
8:29
And
8:29
this
8:30
is
8:30
the
8:30
thing,
8:30
is
8:30
that
8:31
even
8:31
though
8:32
lots
8:32
and
8:32
lots
8:32
more
8:33
people
8:33
are
8:33
home
8:33
educated
8:34
now
8:34
than
8:34
five
8:35
years
8:35
ago,
8:35
and
8:35
then
8:35
10
8:36
years
8:36
ago
8:36
and
8:36
then
8:36
30
8:36
years
8:37
ago,
8:37
it
8:37
is
8:38
still
8:38
a
8:38
very
8:38
minority
8:39
decision.
8:39
And
8:40
that
8:40
makes
8:40
it
8:41
really
8:41
inherently
8:41
scary
8:42
when
8:42
you
8:42
start
8:42
doing
8:43
something
8:43
that
8:43
other
8:43
people
8:43
aren't
8:44
doing.
8:45
And
8:45
the
8:46
very
8:46
first
8:46
thing
8:46
I
8:47
would
8:47
say,
8:47
which
8:47
is
8:47
probably
8:48
what
8:48
you've
8:49
already
8:49
done,
8:49
is
8:50
to
8:50
immerse
8:50
yourself
8:51
in
8:51
your
8:51
local
8:52
home
8:52
ed
8:52
community.
8:53
Join
8:53
all
8:54
the
8:54
Facebook
8:54
groups.
8:55
The
8:55
local
8:55
Facebook
8:56
groups,
8:56
Even
8:56
if
8:57
you
8:57
can
8:57
start
8:58
getting
8:58
yourself
8:58
out
8:58
there,
8:59
like
8:59
making
9:00
connections
9:00
with
9:01
other
9:01
mothers
9:02
who
9:02
are
9:02
home
9:02
educating,
9:03
who
9:03
are
9:03
just
9:03
starting,
9:04
things
9:04
like
9:04
that,
9:05
just
9:05
stop
9:06
sort
9:06
of
9:06
like
9:06
getting
9:07
yourself
9:07
so
9:08
that
9:08
you
9:08
feel
9:08
that
9:08
it's
9:09
less
9:10
just
9:11
you
9:11
on
9:11
your
9:11
own
9:11
doing
9:12
it.
9:12
The
9:12
local
9:13
Facebook
9:13
groups
9:14
for
9:14
home
9:14
education
9:14
are
9:15
really,
9:15
really
9:15
important
9:16
as
9:16
well
9:16
as
9:16
the
9:16
national
9:17
ones
9:17
and,
9:18
you
9:18
know,
9:18
getting
9:18
the
9:18
books
9:19
and
9:19
listening
9:19
to
9:19
the
9:19
podcast
9:20
and
9:20
things
9:20
like
9:20
that.
9:20
I
9:21
think
9:21
the
9:21
local
9:22
Facebook
9:22
groups
9:23
are
9:23
your
9:23
first
9:23
point
9:23
of
9:24
call
9:24
to
9:24
just
9:24
feel
9:24
like,
9:25
oh,
9:25
okay,
9:25
like
9:26
there
9:26
are
9:26
other
9:26
people,
9:27
like,
9:27
you
9:27
know,
9:27
three
9:28
miles
9:28
down
9:28
the
9:28
road
9:28
who
9:29
are
9:29
doing
9:29
this
9:29
very
9:29
thing.
9:31
Yeah,
9:31
yeah.
9:31
So
9:32
over
9:32
the
9:33
summer
9:33
I
9:33
did,
9:33
I
9:34
did
9:34
do
9:34
that.
9:35
We
9:35
joined
9:36
a
9:36
few
9:36
sort
9:37
of
9:37
Salford
9:37
home
9:37
ed
9:38
groups
9:39
and
9:39
we've
9:40
gone
9:40
to
9:40
a
9:40
forest
9:41
school,
9:41
which
9:42
was
9:42
on.
9:42
On
9:43
the
9:43
weekends.
9:43
And
9:44
that
9:44
was
9:44
great
9:44
because
9:45
not
9:45
everybody
9:46
there
9:46
is
9:46
home
9:46
eds,
9:46
but
9:47
a
9:47
lot
9:47
do.
9:48
So
9:48
made
9:48
a
9:49
couple
9:49
of
9:49
friends,
9:49
had
9:49
some
9:49
kind
9:50
of
9:50
play
9:50
dates
9:50
after
9:51
that
9:51
as
9:51
a
9:51
result,
9:52
and
9:53
I
9:53
guess
9:54
there's
9:54
options
9:55
there.
9:56
But
9:57
some
9:57
of
9:57
the
9:58
groups,
9:58
it
9:58
was
9:58
difficult
9:59
to
9:59
get
10:00
in
10:00
because
10:00
they
10:00
ask,
10:01
have
10:01
you
10:01
deregistered
10:02
yet?
10:02
And
10:02
I
10:02
haven't.
10:03
So
10:03
they
10:03
said,
10:04
you
10:04
know,
10:04
well,
10:04
come
10:04
back
10:05
to
10:05
us
10:05
at
10:05
that
10:06
point.
10:06
But
10:07
it's
10:07
really
10:07
hard.
10:08
And
10:08
I
10:08
understand
10:09
why,
10:09
why
10:10
local
10:10
groups
10:10
do
10:10
this.
10:11
It's
10:11
because
10:12
sometimes,
10:13
not
10:13
very
10:14
often,
10:14
but
10:14
sometimes
10:14
you
10:15
get
10:15
school
10:15
parents
10:16
who
10:16
just
10:16
kind
10:16
of
10:16
want
10:17
their
10:17
children
10:17
to
10:18
do
10:19
the
10:19
kind
10:19
of
10:19
extracurricular
10:20
stuff.
10:21
And
10:21
it's
10:21
a
10:22
very
10:22
different
10:22
thing
10:23
when
10:23
you
10:23
home
10:23
educate
10:24
to,
10:24
to
10:24
just,
10:25
you
10:25
know,
10:26
having
10:26
your
10:26
child
10:26
flexi
10:27
Schooling
10:27
even,
10:27
for
10:27
example.
10:28
So
10:29
I
10:29
understand
10:29
why
10:29
they
10:29
do
10:30
that.
10:30
But
10:30
it's
10:30
such
10:30
a
10:30
shame
10:31
because
10:31
it
10:31
means
10:31
you
10:31
can't
10:32
get
10:32
a
10:32
sense
10:32
of
10:33
it,
10:33
really,
10:33
until
10:33
you
10:34
dereg.
10:34
And
10:34
deregging
10:35
is
10:35
kind
10:35
of
10:35
scary
10:36
in
10:36
itself
10:36
because
10:37
that's
10:37
the
10:37
big
10:37
step.
10:38
So
10:39
I
10:39
know
10:39
there's
10:39
going
10:40
to
10:40
be
10:40
people
10:40
listening.
10:41
I
10:42
mean,
10:42
I
10:42
don't
10:42
know,
10:42
maybe
10:43
there
10:43
are.
10:43
Maybe
10:43
I'm
10:43
cynical,
10:44
but
10:44
I'm
10:44
guessing
10:45
there's
10:45
going
10:45
to
10:45
be
10:45
people
10:46
listening
10:46
who
10:46
are
10:46
thinking,
10:46
like,
10:47
who
10:47
the
10:47
hell
10:47
does
10:47
Eleanor
10:48
think
10:48
she
10:48
is,
10:49
positioning
10:49
herself
10:50
as
10:50
some
10:50
sort
10:50
of
10:50
homeschooling
10:51
expert,
10:51
which
10:51
I'm
10:52
not.
10:52
Right.
10:52
So
10:53
I'm
10:53
not
10:53
any
10:53
kind
10:54
of
10:54
expert
10:54
in
10:54
this.
10:55
And
10:56
I'm
10:56
here
10:56
to
10:57
try
10:57
to
10:57
reassure
10:58
you
10:58
and
10:59
to
10:59
answer
10:59
your
10:59
questions
11:00
and
11:00
to
11:00
kind
11:00
of
11:01
help
11:01
you
11:01
out,
11:01
purely
11:01
because
11:02
I've
11:02
been
11:02
doing
11:03
it
11:03
a
11:03
long
11:03
time
11:04
and
11:04
as
11:04
part
11:04
of
11:05
the
11:05
podcast,
11:05
I've
11:05
spent,
11:05
like,
11:06
many
11:06
hours,
11:07
many
11:08
hours
11:08
meeting
11:08
people
11:09
and
11:09
talking
11:09
to
11:10
them
11:10
about
11:10
home
11:10
education.
11:11
So
11:11
I
11:12
would
11:12
do
11:12
my
11:12
very
11:13
best
11:13
to
11:14
help
11:15
provide
11:16
any
11:16
guidance
11:16
and
11:17
reassurance
11:17
I
11:17
can.
11:18
So
11:18
I
11:18
know
11:18
you've
11:18
got
11:18
a
11:18
list
11:19
of
11:19
questions
11:20
and
11:20
things
11:20
you
11:21
want
11:21
to
11:21
ask
11:21
me.
11:22
So
11:22
hit
11:22
me
11:22
up.
11:24
Let
11:24
me
11:24
see
11:24
if
11:25
I
11:25
can
11:25
knock
11:25
some
11:25
of
11:25
the
11:26
skittles
11:26
down
11:26
that
11:26
make
11:27
you
11:27
feel
11:27
a
11:27
bit
11:28
braver
11:28
and
11:28
a
11:28
bit
11:28
less.
11:29
A
11:29
bit
11:29
less
11:29
nervous
11:30
about
11:30
it.
11:31
Okay.
11:31
There's
11:31
quite
11:32
a
11:32
few
11:32
questions,
11:32
so
11:34
I'm.
11:34
Here
11:34
for
11:34
the
11:35
questions.
11:35
Oh,
11:36
yes.
11:36
It's
11:37
like
11:37
a
11:37
quiz.
11:37
I
11:37
like.
11:38
I
11:38
like
11:38
quizzes.
11:38
I
11:39
like
11:39
tests.
11:39
This
11:39
is
11:40
good
11:40
for
11:40
me.
11:41
All
11:42
right.
11:42
I
11:42
know
11:42
this
11:42
is
11:43
a
11:43
big
11:44
concern
11:44
for
11:44
everybody.
11:45
It's
11:45
the
11:45
socialization
11:46
aspect.
11:47
I
11:49
understand
11:50
that
11:50
people
11:51
say,
11:51
you
11:51
know,
11:51
it's,
11:52
don't
11:52
worry
11:52
about
11:52
it,
11:52
you
11:53
will
11:53
find
11:53
your
11:54
people.
11:54
And
11:55
like
11:55
I
11:55
say,
11:55
I've
11:56
already
11:56
started
11:56
with
11:57
a
11:57
little
11:57
bit
11:57
of
11:57
that.
11:58
But
11:59
I
11:59
was
11:59
concerned
12:00
that
12:00
when
12:00
I
12:01
spoke
12:01
to
12:01
a
12:01
local
12:02
lady
12:03
who
12:03
I
12:03
just
12:03
happened
12:04
to
12:04
bump
12:04
into
12:05
on
12:05
a
12:05
car
12:06
boot
12:06
sale,
12:06
and
12:06
I
12:07
said,
12:07
do
12:07
you
12:07
home
12:07
ed
12:07
Bernie
12:08
Sands?
12:08
Just
12:08
the
12:09
way
12:09
she
12:09
was
12:09
talking,
12:09
and
12:10
she's
12:10
like,
12:10
yes,
12:10
I
12:10
do.
12:10
And
12:11
she
12:11
was
12:11
talking
12:12
about
12:12
it,
12:13
and
12:13
her.
12:13
Both
12:13
her
12:13
children
12:14
had
12:14
been
12:14
brought
12:15
out
12:15
because
12:16
of
12:16
special
12:16
educational
12:17
needs
12:17
and
12:18
the
12:18
school
12:18
wasn't
12:18
meeting
12:19
that
12:19
and
12:19
totally
12:20
understand
12:20
that.
12:20
And
12:21
I
12:21
said,
12:21
what
12:22
is
12:22
the
12:22
percentage
12:23
of
12:23
that
12:23
in
12:24
the
12:24
general
12:24
home
12:25
ed
12:25
community?
12:26
How
12:26
many
12:27
people
12:27
do
12:27
it
12:28
purely
12:29
because
12:30
their
12:30
child
12:30
is
12:31
maybe
12:32
not
12:32
happy
12:32
or
12:33
just
12:33
for
12:34
reasons
12:34
that
12:35
they
12:35
just
12:36
don't
12:36
want
12:36
their
12:36
child
12:36
to
12:37
ever
12:37
go
12:37
to
12:37
school?
12:37
Like,
12:37
you,
12:38
what
12:38
position,
12:39
percentage
12:39
of.
12:39
Of
12:40
the
12:40
population
12:40
would
12:40
you
12:41
say
12:41
you
12:41
are
12:42
versus
12:42
people
12:43
that
12:43
have
12:43
had
12:44
to
12:44
come
12:44
out
12:45
for
12:45
their,
12:46
you
12:46
know,
12:46
their
12:46
child
12:46
struggling?
12:47
I
12:48
asked
12:48
her
12:48
and
12:48
she
12:49
said
12:49
it
12:49
was
12:49
quite
12:50
high
12:51
percentage.
12:52
She
12:52
said
12:52
it
12:53
well,
12:53
she
12:53
said
12:53
it
12:53
was.
12:53
Most
12:54
people
12:55
were
12:55
people
12:55
that
12:56
felt
12:56
forced
12:57
into
12:57
it,
12:57
I
12:57
suppose,
12:58
as
12:58
opposed
12:58
to
12:59
chosen
12:59
it
13:00
as
13:00
an
13:00
alternative
13:01
path
13:01
for
13:02
their
13:02
child.
13:02
Not
13:02
that
13:03
they
13:03
weren't
13:04
met
13:04
for
13:04
at
13:04
school
13:05
then
13:05
their
13:05
needs
13:05
weren't
13:06
met,
13:06
but
13:06
more
13:06
that
13:07
they
13:07
just.
13:08
I'm
13:08
not
13:08
wording
13:09
this
13:09
very
13:09
well,
13:09
but.
13:10
I
13:10
know
13:10
what
13:10
you
13:10
mean.
13:11
I.
13:11
What
13:11
I
13:11
call
13:12
in
13:12
my
13:12
head
13:12
ideological
13:13
home
13:13
educators.
13:14
Yeah,
13:14
yeah,
13:14
that's
13:15
versus
13:15
kind
13:15
of
13:16
more
13:16
like
13:16
a
13:16
kind
13:16
of
13:17
anti
13:17
school
13:17
or
13:18
school
13:18
refusal
13:18
or
13:19
school
13:19
rejection.
13:19
Home
13:20
educated.
13:20
Yeah,
13:21
yeah.
13:21
It's
13:21
really
13:22
interesting
13:22
because
13:23
there
13:23
is.
13:25
You.
13:25
You've
13:26
summed
13:26
up
13:26
really
13:27
the
13:27
two
13:27
camps.
13:28
I
13:28
don't
13:28
mean
13:29
camps
13:29
as
13:29
in
13:29
they're
13:29
separated,
13:30
but
13:31
I
13:31
mean
13:31
the
13:31
two
13:31
types
13:32
of
13:32
home
13:32
educators.
13:32
You've
13:33
summed
13:33
it
13:33
up
13:33
perfectly.
13:34
There
13:34
are
13:34
home
13:35
educators
13:35
that
13:35
have
13:36
never
13:36
sent
13:36
their
13:36
child
13:36
to
13:37
school
13:37
or
13:37
ideologically
13:38
just
13:38
don't
13:38
really
13:38
agree
13:39
with
13:39
school.
13:39
Don't
13:39
really
13:40
like
13:40
school
13:41
doesn't
13:41
suit
13:41
their
13:42
lifestyle,
13:42
whatever
13:43
it
13:43
is.
13:44
Yeah.
13:44
And
13:45
they're
13:45
kind
13:45
of
13:45
like
13:46
what
13:46
I
13:46
call
13:46
ideological
13:47
home
13:47
educators
13:48
and
13:48
they
13:48
tend
13:48
to
13:48
home
13:48
educate
13:49
all
13:49
the
13:49
way
13:49
through
13:49
and
13:49
don't
13:50
really
13:50
try
13:50
school
13:50
because
13:51
it's
13:51
just
13:51
not
13:51
really
13:51
on
13:51
their
13:51
radar.
13:52
And
13:52
then
13:53
you
13:53
have
13:53
home
13:53
educators
13:54
who
13:54
try
13:55
school
13:55
and
13:55
just
13:56
assume
13:56
that
13:56
school
13:56
is
13:57
going
13:57
to
13:57
work
13:57
and
13:57
then
13:57
something
13:58
happens
13:58
and
13:58
it
13:58
doesn't.
13:59
Bullying,
13:59
anxiety,
14:01
neurodiversity,
14:03
a
14:03
bad
14:04
experience,
14:04
something
14:04
like
14:05
that.
14:05
And
14:05
then,
14:05
then
14:06
they
14:06
start
14:06
looking
14:07
around
14:07
for
14:07
alternative.
14:08
Now
14:08
you
14:08
fit
14:09
into
14:09
that
14:09
second
14:09
camp
14:10
where
14:11
really
14:12
I
14:12
think
14:12
if
14:12
your
14:12
daughter
14:13
had
14:13
enjoyed
14:13
school
14:13
and
14:14
was
14:14
absolutely
14:14
fine
14:14
with
14:15
school,
14:15
we
14:15
wouldn't
14:15
be
14:15
having
14:16
this
14:16
conversation.
14:16
Home
14:17
education
14:17
wouldn't
14:17
be
14:17
on
14:18
your
14:18
radar.
14:19
So
14:19
when
14:19
it
14:20
comes
14:20
to
14:20
percentages,
14:21
I've
14:22
got
14:22
two
14:22
things
14:22
to
14:22
say
14:22
about
14:23
that.
14:23
So
14:23
the
14:23
first
14:24
thing
14:24
is
14:24
that
14:24
when
14:25
I
14:25
started
14:25
home
14:26
educating,
14:27
if
14:27
you
14:28
can
14:28
count
14:28
it
14:28
as
14:29
starting,
14:29
because
14:29
I
14:29
never
14:30
really
14:30
started.
14:30
I
14:30
was
14:30
in
14:31
the
14:31
first
14:31
camp
14:31
there
14:32
just
14:32
kind
14:32
of.
14:33
I
14:33
fell
14:33
into
14:33
it.
14:34
It
14:34
just
14:34
wasn't
14:34
something
14:34
I
14:35
thought
14:35
about.
14:35
Pretty
14:36
much
14:36
everybody
14:36
in
14:37
the
14:37
home
14:37
education
14:37
community
14:38
were
14:38
the
14:39
first
14:39
camp,
14:39
the
14:39
ideolog,
14:40
home
14:40
educators.
14:41
I
14:41
met
14:41
very
14:41
few
14:41
that
14:42
weren't
14:42
that.
14:43
That's
14:43
not
14:43
to
14:43
say
14:43
that
14:43
their
14:44
children
14:44
didn't
14:44
have
14:44
neurodiversities,
14:45
but
14:46
that
14:46
wasn't
14:47
the
14:47
main
14:47
reason
14:47
they
14:48
were
14:48
home
14:48
educating.
14:49
There
14:50
was
14:50
a
14:50
period
14:50
of
14:50
time
14:50
before
14:51
COVID
14:52
round
14:52
about
14:52
like
14:53
the
14:53
mid
14:53
2010s
14:54
when
14:54
there
14:54
was
14:54
a
14:54
lot
14:54
of
14:54
what's
14:55
called
14:55
off
14:55
rolling
14:56
when
14:56
schools
14:57
were
14:57
getting
14:58
rid
14:58
of
14:58
pupils
14:59
from
14:59
their
14:59
school
15:00
role
15:00
that
15:00
had
15:00
neurodiversities
15:01
because
15:02
it
15:02
was
15:02
affecting
15:03
their.
15:05
Well,
15:06
I
15:06
don't
15:06
actually
15:06
know
15:07
why
15:07
to
15:07
be
15:07
perfectly
15:08
Honest,
15:08
it's
15:08
a
15:08
really
15:08
interesting
15:09
thing.
15:09
But
15:09
my
15:09
guess
15:09
is
15:10
it
15:10
was
15:10
affecting
15:10
their
15:11
GCSE
15:12
results
15:12
or
15:12
something,
15:13
I
15:13
don't
15:13
know.
15:13
But
15:13
there
15:13
was
15:13
a
15:13
lot
15:14
of
15:14
off
15:14
rolling.
15:15
So
15:15
a
15:15
lot
15:15
of
15:15
people
15:15
came
15:16
to
15:16
home
15:17
education
15:17
round
15:17
about
15:18
that
15:18
kind
15:18
of
15:18
mid
15:19
2010s.
15:19
And
15:20
then
15:20
during
15:20
COVID
15:20
again
15:21
we
15:21
got
15:22
more
15:22
people
15:22
in.
15:23
So
15:24
there
15:24
was
15:24
a
15:24
shift
15:24
then.
15:25
So
15:25
you
15:25
ended
15:26
up
15:26
with
15:27
more
15:27
people
15:27
who
15:28
are
15:28
home
15:28
educating,
15:28
who
15:28
weren't,
15:29
who
15:29
hadn't
15:29
actively
15:30
chosen
15:30
home
15:30
education.
15:31
Home
15:32
education
15:32
had
15:32
kind
15:32
of
15:32
been
15:33
foisted
15:33
a
15:33
little
15:33
bit
15:34
upon
15:34
them
15:34
circumstantially.
15:35
Now
15:36
I
15:36
will
15:36
say
15:36
that
15:38
I
15:38
have
15:38
met
15:38
home
15:39
educators
15:39
of
15:39
both
15:40
types
15:41
and
15:41
I
15:41
don't
15:42
think
15:42
it
15:42
makes
15:42
really
15:43
any
15:43
difference
15:44
which
15:45
home
15:45
educator
15:45
you
15:46
are.
15:46
I've
15:46
never
15:47
felt
15:47
that
15:48
there's
15:49
like
15:49
a
15:49
sense
15:49
of
15:50
them
15:50
and
15:50
usness
15:51
about
15:51
that
15:52
or
15:52
any
15:52
kind.
15:52
And
15:53
I'm
15:53
the
15:53
first
15:54
to
15:54
admit
15:54
when
15:54
there
15:55
are
15:55
cliques
15:55
and
15:55
things
15:56
in
15:56
home
15:56
education,
15:57
because
15:57
there
15:57
are.
15:58
But
15:58
I've
15:58
never
15:59
really
15:59
felt
15:59
a
15:59
sense
16:00
of
16:00
disconnect
16:00
between
16:01
like
16:01
some
16:01
groups
16:02
are
16:02
more
16:02
for
16:02
the
16:02
ideological
16:03
home
16:03
educators,
16:03
some
16:04
groups
16:04
are
16:04
more
16:04
for
16:04
the
16:04
school
16:05
review
16:05
rejection
16:06
home
16:06
educators.
16:07
We've
16:07
been
16:07
to
16:07
play
16:08
dates
16:08
with
16:08
all
16:08
sorts
16:09
of
16:09
different,
16:10
different
16:10
circumstances
16:11
and
16:11
different
16:11
children.
16:12
It's
16:12
never
16:12
made
16:13
any
16:14
kind
16:14
of
16:15
difference
16:15
at
16:15
all
16:16
to
16:16
our
16:16
experience
16:16
of
16:16
home
16:17
education.
16:18
So
16:18
that's
16:19
from
16:19
my
16:19
perspective,
16:20
I
16:20
would
16:20
guess
16:21
to
16:21
answer
16:21
your
16:21
question,
16:21
that
16:22
at
16:22
the
16:22
moment
16:22
it's
16:23
probably
16:23
more
16:24
the
16:24
second
16:25
camp,
16:26
this,
16:26
the
16:26
school
16:27
hasn't
16:27
worked
16:27
out
16:27
for
16:28
them
16:28
camp.
16:28
Whereas
16:30
10
16:30
years
16:30
ago,
16:30
15
16:31
years
16:31
ago,
16:31
it
16:31
was
16:31
definitely
16:32
more
16:32
of
16:32
the
16:32
first
16:32
one.
16:33
I
16:33
don't
16:33
think
16:33
that's.
16:34
That
16:34
don't
16:34
that
16:35
makes
16:35
any
16:35
difference.
16:35
The
16:35
only
16:37
very
16:37
slight
16:37
difference
16:38
it
16:38
makes
16:38
is
16:38
that
16:39
there
16:39
were
16:39
times
16:40
when
16:41
I
16:41
was
16:41
at
16:41
a
16:41
kind
16:42
of
16:42
home
16:42
ed
16:42
thing
16:43
and
16:43
I
16:43
would
16:44
sit
16:44
with
16:44
some
16:45
of
16:45
the
16:45
other
16:45
mothers
16:45
and
16:46
the
16:46
entire
16:47
conversation
16:47
was
16:47
how
16:48
annoying
16:48
school
16:48
was.
16:49
And
16:49
I
16:49
kind
16:50
of
16:50
sat
16:50
there,
16:50
didn't
16:50
really
16:50
have
16:51
a
16:51
lot
16:51
to
16:51
say
16:51
because
16:52
my
16:52
children
16:52
hadn't
16:53
really
16:53
had
16:53
that
16:53
experience.
16:53
And
16:54
I
16:54
found
16:54
that
16:54
a
16:54
little
16:54
bit
16:55
like
16:55
why
16:55
are
16:55
we
16:55
talking
16:55
about
16:55
school?
16:56
We're
16:56
not
16:56
in
16:57
school,
16:57
we're
16:57
not
16:57
doing
16:58
school.
16:58
And
16:59
I
16:59
think,
16:59
I
16:59
think
17:00
for
17:00
a
17:00
brief
17:00
period
17:00
I
17:00
found
17:01
that
17:01
a
17:01
little,
17:01
a
17:02
little
17:02
not
17:02
exactly
17:03
frustrating,
17:03
but
17:03
it
17:03
was
17:04
just.
17:04
I
17:04
felt
17:04
a
17:04
bit
17:04
left
17:05
out
17:05
from
17:05
that
17:05
experience,
17:05
I
17:06
think.
17:06
But
17:06
that
17:06
was
17:07
honestly
17:07
the
17:08
only
17:08
palpable
17:08
difference
17:09
I
17:09
ever
17:09
noticed
17:10
between
17:10
the
17:10
two
17:10
groups.
17:11
I
17:12
don't
17:12
think
17:12
you'll
17:13
seem
17:13
or
17:14
feel
17:15
left
17:15
out
17:15
in
17:15
some
17:16
way
17:16
by
17:16
ideological
17:17
home
17:17
educators
17:18
or.
17:18
I
17:19
don't
17:19
know,
17:19
I
17:19
don't
17:20
think
17:20
you'll
17:20
notice
17:20
anything
17:21
when
17:21
it
17:21
comes
17:21
to
17:21
that.
17:21
I
17:21
wouldn't
17:22
worry
17:22
about
17:22
that.
17:22
No,
17:24
it's
17:24
just.
17:24
Well,
17:24
you
17:25
know,
17:25
how
17:25
Lucy
17:25
will
17:26
kind
17:27
of
17:27
ingratiate
17:27
herself
17:28
and
17:29
I
17:29
hope
17:30
that's.
17:31
A
17:31
really
17:31
good
17:31
question.
17:31
And
17:32
one
17:32
thing
17:32
I
17:32
will
17:33
say
17:33
is
17:33
that
17:33
I
17:33
think
17:34
that
17:34
schooled.
17:36
Parents
17:36
of
17:36
schooled
17:37
children
17:37
really
17:38
worry
17:38
about
17:38
this
17:38
when
17:39
they
17:39
join
17:39
home
17:39
education.
17:40
They
17:40
worry
17:41
that
17:41
the
17:41
children,
17:42
that
17:43
their
17:43
child
17:43
won't
17:43
feel
17:44
part
17:44
of
17:44
a
17:44
group
17:45
or
17:45
will
17:45
be
17:46
left
17:46
out.
17:46
I
17:46
have
17:47
never
17:47
experienced
17:48
that
17:48
in
17:48
home
17:49
education,
17:49
like,
17:50
honestly,
17:50
I
17:50
never
17:50
have.
17:51
That's
17:51
not
17:51
to
17:51
say
17:51
it
17:51
doesn't
17:52
happen.
17:52
I'm
17:53
not
17:53
here
17:53
saying
17:53
that
17:53
other
17:54
people's
17:54
experience
17:54
of
17:54
that
17:55
didn't
17:55
happen.
17:55
Of
17:55
course
17:56
it.
17:56
I'm
17:56
sure
17:57
it
17:57
does
17:57
happen.
17:58
But
17:58
in
17:58
my
17:58
experience
17:59
of
17:59
home
17:59
education,
18:00
home
18:00
educated
18:01
children
18:01
are
18:01
extremely
18:02
welcoming
18:03
and
18:03
very
18:03
inclusive.
18:04
There
18:04
is
18:05
no,
18:05
like,
18:05
playground,
18:06
like
18:07
cliques
18:07
and
18:08
gangs.
18:08
I
18:08
honestly
18:09
never,
18:09
ever
18:09
experienced
18:10
that.
18:10
No.
18:10
Oh,
18:11
that's
18:11
really
18:11
reassuring.
18:13
Yeah.
18:14
So
18:15
a
18:15
question
18:16
about
18:16
how.
18:17
How
18:17
do
18:17
you
18:17
know
18:18
if.
18:18
How
18:19
your
18:19
child
18:19
is
18:20
doing?
18:20
So
18:20
in
18:21
the
18:21
sense
18:21
that
18:22
I
18:22
understand
18:22
your
18:22
children
18:23
are
18:23
older
18:23
now
18:23
and
18:24
they've
18:24
done
18:24
GCSES
18:25
and
18:25
those
18:26
kind
18:26
of
18:26
things,
18:27
but
18:27
as
18:28
a
18:28
younger,
18:29
as
18:29
a
18:29
parent
18:30
of
18:30
a
18:30
younger
18:30
child
18:30
who,
18:31
you
18:31
know,
18:31
is
18:32
pre
18:32
SAT
18:32
stage,
18:32
pre
18:33
gcse,
18:34
how
18:34
do
18:34
you
18:35
gauge
18:36
how
18:36
well
18:36
they
18:36
are
18:36
doing,
18:37
if
18:37
targets
18:38
are
18:38
being
18:38
reached,
18:38
if
18:38
you're
18:39
making
18:39
an
18:39
absolute
18:40
mess
18:40
of
18:41
it,
18:41
or
18:41
if
18:41
they're
18:41
doing
18:41
really
18:42
well,
18:42
if
18:43
there's
18:43
no
18:43
kind
18:43
of
18:44
formal
18:44
testing
18:44
till
18:44
gcse?
18:45
If
18:45
you
18:45
are
18:46
following
18:46
the
18:46
national
18:46
curriculum.
18:48
Let
18:48
me
18:48
spin
18:48
this
18:49
round
18:49
to
18:49
you
18:49
in
18:49
a
18:50
mildly
18:50
combative
18:51
way.
18:52
Why
18:52
does
18:53
it
18:53
matter?
18:54
Well,
18:54
just
18:54
in
18:54
the
18:55
sense
18:55
of
18:55
whether,
18:56
you
18:56
know,
18:57
for
18:57
a
18:57
slightly
18:58
angsty
18:58
mum
18:59
who's
18:59
maybe
19:00
thinking,
19:00
am
19:01
I
19:01
absolutely
19:01
ruining
19:02
my
19:02
child's
19:02
future
19:03
by
19:03
taking
19:03
her
19:03
out
19:04
of
19:04
school,
19:04
it
19:05
would
19:05
be
19:05
reassuring
19:06
to
19:06
know
19:07
that.
19:07
I'm
19:08
not
19:08
saying
19:08
to
19:08
test
19:08
her
19:09
all
19:09
the
19:09
time
19:09
or
19:09
anything
19:09
like
19:10
that,
19:10
but
19:10
just
19:10
if
19:10
there
19:11
was
19:11
a
19:11
way
19:12
to
19:13
gauge,
19:13
oh,
19:14
you
19:14
know,
19:14
she
19:14
can
19:15
do
19:15
that,
19:15
she
19:15
can't
19:15
do
19:16
this.
19:16
And
19:16
do
19:16
you
19:17
kind
19:17
of
19:17
go
19:18
through
19:18
the
19:18
curriculum?
19:18
I
19:19
think,
19:19
oh,
19:19
yeah,
19:19
they
19:19
can,
19:19
they
19:20
can
19:20
do
19:20
that
19:20
kind
19:20
of
19:20
stuff.
19:21
Or
19:21
do
19:21
you
19:21
just
19:22
wing
19:22
it
19:22
and
19:22
see
19:22
how
19:23
you
19:23
get
19:23
on
19:23
until
19:23
two
19:24
seats?
19:25
I
19:25
mean,
19:25
one
19:25
of
19:25
the.
19:26
One
19:27
of
19:27
the
19:27
scariest
19:28
bits
19:28
of
19:28
home
19:28
education
19:29
and
19:29
yet
19:29
one
19:30
of
19:30
the
19:30
best
19:30
bits
19:30
of
19:30
home
19:30
education
19:31
is
19:31
that
19:32
all
19:32
in
19:32
any
19:32
of
19:32
these
19:33
approaches
19:33
are
19:33
open
19:34
to
19:34
you.
19:35
So,
19:35
yes,
19:35
you
19:36
can,
19:36
absolutely.
19:37
If
19:37
the
19:37
academic
19:38
development
19:39
is
19:39
a
19:39
concern
19:39
for
19:40
you.
19:40
And
19:40
I
19:40
was
19:41
like
19:41
that.
19:41
I
19:42
wanted
19:42
to
19:42
know
19:43
how
19:43
they
19:43
were
19:43
doing
19:43
academically.
19:44
I
19:45
would
19:45
buy
19:45
them
19:46
workbooks
19:47
for
19:47
their
19:48
age.
19:49
So
19:49
they.
19:50
Back
19:50
when
19:50
I
19:51
used
19:51
to
19:51
be
19:51
able
19:52
to
19:52
go
19:52
to
19:52
Toys
19:52
R
19:52
Us
19:53
and
19:53
get
19:53
them
19:53
but
19:53
you
19:53
can
19:53
get,
19:53
go
19:54
to
19:54
the
19:54
works
19:54
and
19:54
stuff
19:55
and
19:55
get
19:55
like
19:55
year
19:55
7
19:56
to
19:56
8
19:56
maths
19:56
and
19:57
stuff
19:57
like
19:57
that.
19:57
Carol
19:58
Vorderman.
19:59
I
19:59
don't
19:59
know
19:59
if
19:59
she
19:59
still
20:00
does,
20:00
but
20:00
she
20:00
did
20:00
a
20:00
whole
20:01
range
20:01
of
20:01
them.
20:01
Yeah,
20:02
I
20:02
would,
20:03
I
20:03
would
20:03
kind
20:04
of
20:04
buy
20:04
those
20:04
books
20:04
and
20:05
then,
20:05
you
20:05
know,
20:06
kind
20:06
of
20:06
like,
20:06
you
20:06
know,
20:07
vaguely
20:08
work
20:08
my
20:08
way
20:08
through
20:08
them
20:09
or
20:10
sometimes
20:10
I
20:10
would
20:10
literally
20:11
just
20:11
go
20:11
to
20:11
the,
20:12
to
20:12
the
20:13
works
20:13
or
20:14
Smiths
20:14
or
20:14
wherever
20:15
and
20:15
I
20:15
would
20:15
pick
20:16
them
20:16
off
20:16
the
20:16
shelf,
20:16
skip
20:17
through
20:17
them
20:18
and
20:18
not
20:19
buy
20:19
them
20:19
because
20:20
I
20:20
would
20:20
just
20:20
flick
20:20
through,
20:21
through
20:21
them
20:21
and
20:21
think,
20:22
oh
20:22
yeah,
20:22
no,
20:22
I'm
20:22
pretty
20:23
sure
20:23
they
20:23
can
20:23
do
20:23
most
20:23
of
20:23
that.
20:24
Or
20:24
I
20:24
would
20:24
just
20:24
be
20:25
like,
20:25
oh,
20:25
okay,
20:25
we
20:25
haven't
20:26
done
20:26
fractions,
20:26
we
20:26
probably
20:27
ought
20:27
to
20:27
do
20:27
more
20:27
fractions.
20:28
And
20:28
then
20:28
I
20:28
would
20:29
maybe
20:29
do
20:29
a
20:29
bit
20:29
more
20:30
fractions.
20:30
But
20:30
there
20:31
are
20:31
really
20:31
simple,
20:32
easy
20:32
ways
20:32
to
20:33
see
20:33
if
20:33
you're
20:34
keeping
20:34
up
20:34
in
20:35
inverted
20:35
commas.
20:36
But
20:36
I
20:36
will
20:36
say
20:37
that
20:37
academically,
20:39
in
20:40
a
20:40
class
20:40
of
20:40
30
20:41
children,
20:42
year
20:42
three,
20:43
five
20:43
of
20:43
them
20:43
won't
20:44
be
20:44
able
20:44
to
20:44
read.
20:45
Five
20:45
of
20:45
them
20:45
will
20:46
be
20:46
reading
20:46
way
20:46
beyond
20:47
their
20:47
age.
20:48
You
20:48
know,
20:48
10
20:48
of
20:49
them
20:49
won't
20:49
be
20:50
keeping
20:50
up
20:50
with
20:50
the
20:50
class
20:51
at
20:51
all.
20:52
Another
20:52
10
20:52
will
20:53
be
20:53
sitting
20:53
there
20:53
bored
20:54
and
20:54
disengaged.
20:55
Within
20:55
every
20:56
year
20:56
group
20:56
in
20:57
school
20:57
you've
20:57
got
20:57
a
20:57
huge
20:58
range
20:58
of
20:59
where
20:59
people
21:00
are
21:00
on
21:00
the
21:00
academic
21:01
spectrum.
21:01
And
21:01
I
21:02
will
21:02
say
21:02
that
21:03
it
21:03
doesn't
21:03
really
21:04
matter.
21:04
I
21:04
think
21:04
this
21:05
is
21:05
why
21:05
I
21:05
kind
21:05
of
21:05
pose
21:06
that
21:06
question
21:06
is
21:06
because
21:07
at
21:07
a
21:08
young
21:08
age
21:09
your
21:09
child's
21:10
not
21:10
going
21:10
to
21:10
be
21:10
like
21:11
illiterate,
21:11
they're
21:12
not
21:12
going
21:12
to
21:12
get
21:12
to
21:12
16,
21:12
not
21:13
be
21:13
able
21:13
to
21:13
read
21:13
or
21:13
write.
21:13
That's
21:14
not
21:14
going
21:14
to
21:14
happen.
21:14
And
21:15
all
21:16
you're
21:16
doing
21:16
really,
21:17
I
21:17
think
21:17
at
21:17
a
21:17
young
21:18
age
21:19
that
21:19
is
21:19
the
21:19
most
21:20
important
21:20
thing.
21:20
I
21:20
think
21:21
when
21:21
you
21:21
home
21:21
educate
21:22
is,
21:22
well,
21:22
two
21:23
things.
21:23
Firstly,
21:24
you
21:24
are
21:24
prioritizing
21:25
their
21:25
well
21:25
being
21:26
and
21:26
their
21:26
sense
21:26
of
21:27
security
21:27
and
21:27
safety
21:28
and
21:28
confidence
21:28
in
21:28
themselves
21:30
and
21:30
all
21:30
of
21:30
those
21:30
very
21:30
important
21:31
things
21:31
that
21:32
a
21:32
good
21:32
school
21:33
also
21:33
does
21:33
and
21:33
a
21:34
bad
21:34
school
21:34
doesn't
21:34
or
21:35
a
21:35
bad
21:35
school
21:35
experience
21:35
doesn't.
21:36
But
21:36
secondly,
21:37
you're
21:38
allowing
21:38
them
21:38
to
21:39
have
21:39
a
21:39
relationship
21:40
with
21:40
learning
21:41
that
21:41
is
21:41
not
21:42
one
21:42
of
21:42
frustration,
21:42
it's
21:43
not
21:43
one
21:43
of
21:43
feeling
21:44
inferior,
21:44
it's
21:45
not
21:45
one
21:45
of
21:45
anxiety,
21:46
it's
21:47
not
21:47
one
21:47
of
21:47
comparing
21:47
themselves
21:48
with
21:48
somebody
21:48
else.
21:49
It's
21:49
not
21:49
one
21:49
of
21:49
thinking
21:50
why
21:50
do
21:51
I
21:51
even
21:51
have
21:51
to
21:51
know
21:52
this?
21:52
Or
21:52
feeling
21:53
detached
21:53
from
21:54
their
21:54
learning.
21:55
Home
21:55
education
21:56
allows
21:57
a
21:57
child
21:57
to
21:57
be
21:57
really
21:58
engaged
21:58
and
21:59
enthused
21:59
by
22:00
learning.
22:00
It's
22:00
something
22:01
that
22:01
they
22:01
can
22:01
just
22:02
really
22:02
enjoy.
22:03
And
22:03
that
22:04
relationship
22:05
is
22:06
unique.
22:07
In
22:07
home
22:08
education.
22:08
You
22:08
can't
22:08
get
22:09
it
22:09
in
22:09
the
22:09
school
22:09
system
22:10
because
22:10
it's
22:10
an
22:10
enforced
22:11
system
22:11
of
22:11
learning.
22:12
And
22:12
because
22:13
it
22:14
is
22:14
unique
22:14
to
22:14
home
22:15
education,
22:15
it
22:16
allows
22:16
your
22:17
child
22:17
to
22:17
have
22:17
a
22:17
relationship
22:18
with
22:18
learning
22:18
that
22:19
they
22:19
would
22:19
never
22:19
have
22:20
access
22:20
to
22:20
otherwise,
22:21
which
22:21
is
22:21
this
22:22
idea
22:22
that
22:22
learning
22:22
is
22:23
actually
22:23
something
22:23
that
22:23
they
22:24
want
22:24
to
22:24
do.
22:24
They
22:25
like
22:25
doing,
22:25
and
22:26
they're
22:26
very
22:26
confident
22:27
and
22:27
comfortable
22:28
at
22:28
doing.
22:29
Now,
22:29
that
22:29
kind
22:29
of
22:30
confidence
22:30
and
22:31
autonomy
22:31
in
22:31
their
22:32
learning
22:32
can't
22:33
be
22:33
taught.
22:34
It
22:34
pre
22:34
exists
22:35
in
22:35
us
22:35
and
22:35
it
22:36
tends
22:36
to
22:36
get
22:36
removed
22:37
in
22:37
the
22:37
school
22:37
system.
22:38
So
22:38
actually,
22:39
I
22:39
would
22:39
say
22:39
that
22:40
how
22:40
you
22:41
would
22:41
know
22:41
if
22:41
they're
22:41
keeping
22:42
up?
22:42
Well,
22:43
you
22:43
could
22:43
get
22:43
workbooks
22:44
and
22:44
find
22:44
out
22:44
if
22:44
they're
22:45
keeping
22:45
up,
22:45
but
22:46
I
22:46
can
22:46
promise
22:46
you
22:46
that
22:47
they
22:47
will
22:47
be
22:48
way
22:48
ahead
22:48
in
22:48
lots
22:49
of
22:49
other
22:49
things.
22:50
That's
22:50
what
22:50
I
22:50
would
22:50
love,
22:50
is
22:51
for
22:51
her
22:51
to
22:52
have
22:52
a
22:52
love
22:53
of
22:53
learning,
22:53
because
22:53
at
22:53
the
22:54
moment
22:54
she
22:54
comes
22:55
home
22:56
and,
22:57
you
22:57
know,
22:57
she's
22:57
got
22:57
a
22:57
whole
22:57
lot
22:58
to
22:58
do.
22:58
She
22:58
does
22:58
not
22:59
want
22:59
to
22:59
do
22:59
it.
23:00
It's.
23:00
It's
23:00
usually
23:00
only
23:01
spellings
23:01
in
23:01
a
23:01
math
23:01
sheet,
23:02
but,
23:02
you
23:02
know,
23:02
she's
23:03
done.
23:03
You
23:03
can
23:03
tell
23:04
she's.
23:04
She's
23:05
had
23:05
enough
23:05
with.
23:05
With
23:06
school.
23:06
She.
23:06
She
23:07
does
23:07
it
23:07
reluctantly.
23:09
But
23:10
I
23:11
worry
23:11
that
23:11
after
23:12
four
23:12
years
23:12
of
23:12
school,
23:13
is
23:13
it
23:13
too
23:13
late?
23:14
Have
23:14
I
23:14
already
23:15
killed
23:15
that
23:15
love
23:15
of
23:16
learning?
23:16
How
23:16
do
23:16
you
23:16
reignite
23:17
that?
23:17
You
23:18
know,
23:18
I
23:18
know
23:18
you
23:18
say
23:18
you
23:19
can't
23:19
teach
23:19
that
23:19
someone,
23:20
so
23:20
is
23:20
it
23:20
just
23:20
time
23:21
that
23:21
will
23:22
hopefully
23:23
reignite
23:23
that
23:24
interest
23:24
in
23:25
learning?
23:25
And
23:26
is
23:26
it
23:26
just
23:26
time
23:27
will
23:27
tell.
23:28
Yeah.
23:28
And
23:29
to
23:29
answer
23:29
the
23:29
question,
23:30
I'm
23:30
actually
23:30
doing
23:31
a
23:31
podcast
23:32
on
23:32
deschooling
23:33
in
23:33
the
23:33
next
23:33
few
23:34
weeks,
23:34
and
23:34
it's
23:34
interesting
23:35
that
23:35
I
23:35
haven't
23:35
done
23:35
one
23:36
because
23:36
deschooling
23:37
is
23:37
a
23:37
really
23:38
fundamental
23:38
idea
23:39
in
23:39
home
23:39
education.
23:40
I
23:40
cannot
23:40
believe
23:40
I've
23:41
done
23:41
like
23:41
120
23:42
episodes
23:43
I
23:43
haven't
23:43
done
23:43
deschooling
23:44
because.
23:45
No,
23:45
it's
23:45
not
23:45
too
23:45
late.
23:46
It
23:46
just.
23:46
I
23:47
think
23:47
the
23:47
general
23:47
rule
23:48
of
23:48
deschooling
23:48
is
23:49
I
23:49
don't
23:49
know
23:49
where
23:49
this
23:50
came
23:50
from.
23:50
I
23:50
don't
23:51
know
23:51
how
23:51
accurate
23:51
it
23:51
is,
23:52
but
23:52
I
23:52
think
23:52
it's
23:53
one
23:53
month
23:54
of
23:54
deschooling
23:54
for
23:55
one
23:55
year
23:55
in
23:55
the
23:55
school
23:56
system
23:56
for
23:57
both
23:57
of
23:57
you
23:57
that
23:57
is
23:57
not
23:58
just
23:58
your
23:58
daughter.
23:59
And
23:59
so
24:00
the
24:00
longer
24:00
you're
24:00
in
24:01
the
24:01
school
24:01
system,
24:01
the
24:02
more
24:02
in
24:02
inverted
24:03
commas,
24:03
deschooling
24:03
you
24:04
have
24:04
to
24:04
do.
24:04
And
24:05
deschooling
24:05
is
24:05
all
24:06
about
24:06
just
24:07
re.
24:07
Engaging
24:08
that
24:09
relationship
24:09
with
24:10
learning.
24:10
So
24:11
four
24:11
years
24:11
in
24:12
school,
24:12
four
24:13
months
24:13
deschooling?
24:14
Yeah.
24:14
I
24:14
mean,
24:15
it's.
24:15
It
24:15
feels
24:15
a
24:16
little
24:16
bit
24:16
crude,
24:16
but
24:16
that's
24:17
the
24:17
general.
24:17
That's
24:18
the
24:18
general
24:18
theory.
24:18
And
24:18
as
24:19
I
24:19
say,
24:19
I'm
24:20
doing
24:20
a
24:20
deschooling
24:20
podcast
24:21
so
24:21
you
24:21
might
24:21
want
24:22
to
24:22
listen
24:22
up
24:22
for
24:22
that
24:22
one.
24:23
But
24:23
generally
24:24
it's
24:25
no,
24:25
it's
24:25
never
24:26
too
24:26
late
24:26
to
24:26
re.
24:26
Engage
24:27
that
24:27
love
24:27
of
24:27
learning.
24:28
And
24:28
your
24:28
daughter's
24:29
really
24:29
young,
24:30
you
24:30
know,
24:30
she's
24:31
really
24:31
young.
24:31
There
24:31
are
24:31
people
24:31
who
24:32
take
24:32
their
24:32
children
24:32
at
24:32
15,
24:33
16,
24:34
and
24:34
that's
24:35
not
24:35
too
24:35
late,
24:35
it's
24:36
just,
24:36
it's
24:36
older.
24:37
Right.
24:37
So
24:37
there's
24:38
more
24:38
established
24:39
things
24:39
going
24:40
on
24:40
there.
24:41
Yeah.
24:42
Our
24:42
goal
24:42
is
24:42
to
24:42
take
24:43
her
24:43
out
24:44
now.
24:45
I
24:45
already
24:45
feel
24:45
bad.
24:45
I
24:46
think
24:46
you
24:46
get
24:46
the
24:46
mom
24:46
guilt,
24:47
whatever,
24:47
don't
24:47
you,
24:48
earlier,
24:50
hopefully
24:50
in
24:50
the
24:50
next
24:51
few
24:51
weeks
24:51
when
24:52
we
24:52
send
24:52
the
24:52
D
24:53
reg
24:53
letter
24:54
that
24:54
hopefully
24:55
we'll
24:55
be
24:55
able
24:55
to
24:56
get
24:56
her
24:56
started.
24:57
She
24:57
hasn't
24:57
had
24:58
a
24:58
horrendous
24:58
start
24:59
to
24:59
this
24:59
year.
25:00
She's,
25:00
you
25:01
know,
25:01
at
25:01
first
25:01
she
25:01
seemed
25:02
okay
25:02
the
25:02
first
25:03
day
25:03
or
25:03
two,
25:03
and
25:04
then
25:04
it's,
25:04
it's
25:04
dropped
25:05
again
25:05
into
25:07
not
25:07
wanting
25:07
to
25:07
go,
25:08
but
25:09
I
25:09
guess
25:11
it's
25:11
just
25:11
taking
25:11
that
25:12
leap.
25:12
It's.
25:12
When,
25:12
when
25:13
do
25:13
you
25:13
do
25:13
it?
25:15
It's
25:15
just
25:16
a
25:16
scary
25:17
prospect.
25:17
I
25:18
suppose
25:18
at
25:18
the
25:18
moment
25:20
it
25:20
is.
25:20
Scary,
25:20
but
25:20
it's
25:21
never
25:21
going
25:21
to
25:21
not
25:21
be
25:22
scary.
25:23
It's
25:23
never
25:23
going
25:23
to
25:23
not
25:24
be
25:24
a
25:24
scary
25:24
thing.
25:25
And
25:26
assuming
25:26
that
25:27
you've
25:27
got
25:27
all
25:28
your
25:28
circumstances
25:29
in
25:30
place
25:30
where
25:30
so
25:30
you
25:31
actually
25:31
financially
25:32
and
25:33
physically
25:33
can
25:34
look
25:34
after
25:34
her
25:35
during
25:35
the
25:35
day
25:35
without
25:35
having
25:36
to
25:36
go
25:36
to
25:36
work
25:36
or
25:36
whatever,
25:37
then
25:37
there
25:38
is
25:38
no
25:40
sweet
25:40
spot
25:40
moment
25:41
where
25:41
you're
25:41
like,
25:41
yeah,
25:42
I'm
25:42
not
25:42
scared
25:42
anymore.
25:43
I'm
25:43
going
25:43
to
25:43
dereg
25:43
today.
25:44
That
25:44
doesn't
25:44
happen.
25:44
You're
25:45
better
25:45
off
25:45
just.
25:45
Just
25:46
doing
25:46
it.
25:46
It's
25:46
a
25:46
bit
25:46
like
25:47
ripping
25:47
a
25:47
plaster
25:47
off.
25:47
Just.
25:48
Just
25:48
do
25:48
it
25:48
and
25:48
then
25:49
it's
25:49
done
25:49
and
25:49
then
25:49
you
25:49
come
25:50
out
25:50
the
25:50
other
25:50
side
25:50
and
25:50
you're
25:51
doing
25:51
it.
25:51
Yeah,
25:52
yeah.
25:52
I
25:52
think
25:53
it's.
25:54
It's
25:54
just
25:55
having
25:57
that
25:57
confidence
25:57
to,
25:58
to
25:59
do
25:59
it
25:59
and,
26:01
you
26:01
know,
26:01
thinking,
26:02
can
26:02
you,
26:02
can
26:03
you
26:03
fit
26:03
this
26:04
in
26:04
your
26:04
day?
26:05
Because
26:05
I've
26:05
read
26:06
so
26:06
many
26:07
people
26:07
say
26:07
that,
26:08
you
26:08
know,
26:08
they
26:08
regret
26:09
not
26:09
taking
26:10
the
26:10
child
26:10
out,
26:10
but
26:10
they
26:11
don't
26:11
regret
26:12
home
26:12
education.
26:12
They
26:13
don't
26:13
ever
26:13
look
26:14
back
26:14
and
26:14
with
26:14
regrets
26:15
to
26:15
that.
26:15
So
26:16
that
26:16
does
26:16
give
26:17
me
26:17
some
26:17
more
26:17
confidence
26:17
in
26:18
that
26:18
area.
26:19
Are
26:19
you
26:19
confident
26:20
about
26:21
the
26:21
amount
26:21
of
26:21
time
26:22
you
26:22
have
26:22
to
26:22
do
26:22
it
26:23
and
26:23
how
26:23
you're
26:23
going
26:24
to
26:24
approach
26:24
it?
26:25
Well,
26:26
I
26:26
work,
26:27
but
26:27
I
26:28
normally
26:28
work
26:28
three
26:28
days
26:28
a
26:29
week
26:29
in
26:29
the
26:29
nhs,
26:29
so
26:30
I'm
26:30
a
26:30
community
26:30
physio.
26:32
I'm
26:32
out
26:32
of
26:32
the
26:32
house.
26:33
There's
26:34
no
26:34
options
26:34
with
26:34
that.
26:35
But
26:36
I,
26:37
after
26:38
going
26:38
back
26:38
for
26:38
mat
26:38
leave
26:39
and
26:39
reduced
26:39
it
26:40
to
26:40
two
26:40
days,
26:40
which
26:40
they're
26:41
letting
26:41
me
26:41
do
26:41
temporarily,
26:42
but
26:42
they
26:42
keep
26:42
saying
26:43
no
26:43
to
26:43
a
26:43
permanent
26:44
fix
26:44
to
26:44
that
26:45
One
26:45
of
26:45
the
26:45
days
26:46
that
26:46
I'm
26:47
at
26:47
work,
26:47
my
26:47
husband
26:48
is
26:48
off
26:49
and
26:49
he
26:49
works
26:50
from
26:50
home
26:50
normally.
26:52
So
26:52
my
26:52
goal
26:53
is
26:53
that
26:53
there'll
26:53
only
26:54
then
26:54
be
26:54
one
26:54
day
26:55
where
26:55
I'm
26:55
not
26:55
around
26:56
that
26:57
she
26:57
can
26:58
manage
26:58
grandparents
26:59
at
26:59
the
26:59
moment.
27:00
And
27:01
a
27:01
combination
27:01
of
27:01
that
27:01
and
27:02
my
27:02
husband
27:02
working
27:03
from
27:03
home,
27:04
setting
27:04
us
27:04
some
27:04
bits
27:05
and
27:05
bobs
27:05
to
27:05
do.
27:06
Now
27:06
though
27:06
he
27:06
works
27:07
from
27:07
home,
27:07
he
27:07
does
27:07
also
27:08
have
27:08
to
27:08
leave
27:08
for
27:09
different
27:10
site
27:10
jobs,
27:10
but
27:11
not
27:11
all
27:11
the
27:11
time,
27:11
not
27:12
necessarily
27:12
every
27:12
day.
27:13
We
27:13
have
27:14
grandparents
27:14
really
27:14
close
27:15
by
27:15
that
27:15
would
27:16
step
27:16
in
27:16
if
27:17
you
27:17
need
27:17
to
27:17
go
27:17
out
27:17
for
27:17
an
27:18
hour
27:18
or
27:18
two
27:18
or
27:18
whatever.
27:18
They
27:19
would
27:19
watch
27:19
her
27:20
but
27:21
it's.
27:22
She
27:22
still
27:22
wouldn't
27:23
have
27:23
somebody
27:23
with
27:23
her
27:24
all
27:24
the
27:25
time.
27:25
And
27:26
I
27:26
suppose
27:26
it's.
27:27
She's
27:27
really
27:27
happy.
27:28
She
27:28
will
27:29
play
27:29
Lego
27:30
for
27:30
they,
27:30
you
27:30
know,
27:30
they
27:30
think
27:31
that
27:31
her
27:31
attention
27:31
is
27:32
really
27:32
short
27:32
in
27:32
school,
27:33
but
27:33
she
27:33
will
27:33
play
27:34
Lego
27:34
for
27:34
hours
27:35
or
27:35
playing
27:35
a
27:35
bill
27:36
or
27:36
crafting.
27:37
She
27:37
will
27:37
do
27:38
that
27:38
really
27:38
focused
27:39
work.
27:39
She's,
27:40
she's
27:40
got
27:41
endless
27:42
patience
27:42
for
27:43
that.
27:43
So
27:44
I
27:44
guess
27:44
it's
27:45
just
27:45
getting
27:46
your
27:46
head
27:46
into
27:46
the
27:47
right
27:47
space
27:47
of.
27:48
Well,
27:49
just
27:49
because
27:49
she's
27:49
not
27:49
doing
27:50
a
27:50
lesson
27:50
per
27:51
se
27:51
from
27:51
9:3,
27:53
you
27:53
know,
27:53
getting
27:54
the
27:54
head
27:54
out
27:54
of
27:55
how,
27:55
of
27:56
how
27:56
it
27:56
was
27:56
for
27:57
school,
27:57
how
27:57
it's
27:57
set
27:58
up.
27:58
Because
27:58
everybody
27:58
has
27:58
mentioned
27:59
it
27:59
too.
27:59
It's
27:59
like,
27:59
well,
28:00
you
28:00
know,
28:01
you
28:01
work
28:01
and
28:01
you've
28:01
got
28:01
to
28:01
get
28:01
the
28:02
baby
28:02
snapping,
28:02
you've
28:02
got
28:02
to
28:03
do
28:03
meals
28:03
and
28:04
all
28:04
those
28:04
kind
28:04
of
28:05
things.
28:05
How
28:06
would
28:06
you
28:06
give
28:06
her
28:07
lessons
28:07
all
28:07
day?
28:07
And
28:08
I,
28:08
you
28:08
know,
28:08
you
28:08
don't
28:08
want
28:09
to
28:09
be
28:09
on
28:09
a
28:09
screen.
28:09
You
28:09
limit
28:10
a
28:10
screen
28:10
used
28:10
to
28:10
an
28:11
hour
28:11
in
28:11
the
28:11
afternoon
28:12
where
28:12
she
28:12
watches
28:12
tv.
28:13
How
28:14
are
28:14
you?
28:14
Not
28:14
overly
28:15
rely
28:15
on
28:15
that,
28:16
but
28:17
from
28:17
what
28:17
I've
28:17
read
28:17
it's
28:18
about
28:18
two
28:19
hours
28:19
at
28:19
the
28:19
moment.
28:20
For
28:20
her
28:20
age
28:21
even
28:22
that
28:22
is
28:22
hugely
28:23
long.
28:24
Is
28:24
it
28:24
like
28:24
that's
28:25
crazy
28:26
long.
28:26
Yeah,
28:27
I
28:27
mean
28:28
when
28:28
you
28:28
said
28:29
there
28:29
I
28:29
sort
28:30
of
28:30
slightly
28:30
laughed
28:30
about
28:31
how
28:31
you're
28:31
going
28:31
to
28:31
do
28:31
lessons
28:32
all
28:32
day.
28:32
It's
28:32
like
28:33
that
28:33
is
28:34
literally.
28:36
I
28:36
don't
28:36
know
28:36
any
28:36
home
28:37
educator
28:37
who
28:37
replicates
28:38
school
28:38
in
28:38
that
28:38
way.
28:39
I
28:39
honestly
28:39
don't.
28:40
And
28:40
maybe
28:41
there
28:41
must
28:41
be
28:41
because
28:42
there's
28:42
a
28:42
home
28:42
educator
28:43
who
28:43
does
28:43
every
28:44
kind
28:44
of
28:44
approach
28:44
you
28:44
could
28:45
think
28:45
of.
28:45
But
28:45
to
28:45
give
28:46
you
28:46
an
28:46
example,
28:46
my
28:47
children
28:47
at
28:47
that
28:48
age.
28:49
So
28:49
Your
28:49
daughter's
28:50
what,
28:50
8ish?
28:50
Eight?
28:51
Yeah.
28:52
My
28:53
children
28:53
at
28:53
that
28:53
age
28:54
maybe
28:55
like
28:55
three
28:55
or
28:55
four
28:56
days
28:56
a
28:56
week.
28:57
My
28:57
daughter
28:58
at
28:58
8
28:59
would
28:59
do
29:00
maybe
29:01
half
29:01
an
29:01
hour,
29:02
45
29:02
minutes
29:03
a
29:03
day
29:04
of
29:04
actual
29:05
in
29:05
inverted
29:06
commas
29:06
learning,
29:07
like
29:07
sitting
29:07
down
29:08
at
29:08
a
29:08
table
29:08
with
29:09
some,
29:09
a
29:09
pen
29:09
in
29:10
her
29:10
hand
29:10
learning.
29:11
And
29:12
my
29:12
son
29:12
who
29:13
always
29:13
liked
29:13
A
29:13
bit
29:13
more
29:14
of
29:14
that
29:14
kind
29:14
of
29:14
stuff.
29:15
He
29:15
would
29:15
maybe
29:15
do
29:16
45
29:17
minutes,
29:18
maybe
29:18
pushing
29:19
up
29:19
to
29:19
a
29:20
two
29:20
lots
29:20
of
29:20
half
29:21
hour
29:21
or
29:21
something.
29:21
I
29:21
don't
29:21
know.
29:22
That's
29:23
that
29:23
at
29:23
age
29:24
8.
29:24
Now
29:25
that's
29:26
not
29:26
that
29:26
that
29:26
was
29:27
all
29:27
they
29:27
were
29:27
learning.
29:28
No
29:28
way.
29:28
I
29:28
mean,
29:29
wow.
29:29
They
29:29
learned
29:30
so
29:30
much.
29:30
Your
29:30
daughter
29:30
would
29:31
be
29:31
learning
29:31
so
29:31
much
29:31
during
29:32
her
29:32
Playmobil
29:33
and
29:33
her
29:33
Lego,
29:34
like
29:34
life
29:35
itself
29:35
is
29:36
a
29:36
constant
29:36
learning
29:37
process
29:38
for
29:38
all
29:38
of
29:38
us.
29:39
But
29:40
for
29:40
actual
29:40
sit
29:41
down
29:41
lessons,
29:42
I
29:42
wouldn't
29:43
be
29:43
looking
29:43
at
29:44
any
29:44
more
29:44
than
29:44
an
29:45
hour.
29:45
Like
29:46
honestly,
29:46
not
29:46
at
29:47
all.
29:47
And
29:47
bear
29:48
in
29:48
mind,
29:48
when
29:48
my
29:49
children
29:49
were
29:49
doing
29:49
GCSes,
29:50
my
29:50
son
29:50
did
29:50
11,
29:51
he
29:51
did
29:51
four
29:52
A
29:52
levels,
29:52
he
29:53
never
29:53
did
29:53
more
29:53
than
29:53
three
29:54
hours
29:54
a
29:54
day.
29:55
And
29:55
he
29:55
was
29:55
what,
29:56
16,
29:56
17,
29:57
18.
29:58
Oh,
29:58
wow.
29:58
Okay.
29:59
So
29:59
you
30:00
don't
30:00
need
30:00
to
30:01
do
30:01
anything
30:02
like
30:02
they
30:02
do
30:03
at
30:03
school.
30:03
I,
30:03
I
30:04
was
30:04
a
30:04
teacher
30:04
briefly,
30:05
for
30:05
my
30:05
sins.
30:07
I
30:07
was
30:07
a,
30:07
I
30:08
was
30:08
a
30:08
teacher.
30:08
And
30:08
there
30:08
is
30:09
so
30:09
much
30:09
filler
30:10
in
30:10
schools,
30:11
like
30:11
so
30:12
much
30:12
filler.
30:12
The
30:13
actual
30:14
time
30:14
spent
30:15
learning
30:15
sitting
30:16
down
30:16
learning
30:16
is
30:17
really,
30:17
really
30:17
minimal.
30:18
And
30:18
bear
30:18
in
30:19
mind
30:19
that
30:19
what
30:19
you're
30:19
offering
30:20
is
30:20
one
30:20
to
30:21
one
30:21
version
30:22
of
30:22
that,
30:22
as
30:22
opposed
30:23
to
30:23
one
30:23
to
30:23
30
30:24
or
30:24
one
30:24
to
30:24
25
30:25
or
30:25
one
30:25
to
30:25
20
30:26
or
30:26
whatever
30:26
the
30:26
ratio
30:26
is.
30:27
So
30:28
it's
30:28
so
30:28
much
30:28
more
30:29
effective
30:29
as
30:29
well.
30:29
You
30:30
really
30:30
don't
30:31
need
30:32
anything
30:32
like
30:32
that.
30:33
That
30:33
amount.
30:34
You
30:34
don't
30:35
even
30:35
need
30:35
to
30:35
do
30:35
it.
30:36
As
30:36
you'll
30:36
know
30:37
from
30:37
listening
30:37
to
30:37
the
30:38
podcast
30:38
and
30:38
stuff,
30:39
there
30:39
are
30:39
very
30:40
successful
30:40
home
30:40
educators
30:41
who
30:41
never
30:41
do
30:42
a
30:43
little
30:43
bit
30:43
of
30:43
this
30:44
sitting
30:44
down
30:44
with
30:44
a
30:45
pen
30:45
and
30:45
workbook.
30:45
They
30:46
just
30:46
don't
30:46
do
30:46
that.
30:46
And
30:46
the
30:47
child
30:47
is
30:48
still
30:48
remarkably
30:49
educated
30:49
and
30:50
able
30:50
to
30:50
get
30:51
any
30:51
qualifications
30:52
they
30:52
want.
30:52
So
30:53
you
30:53
don't
30:53
have
30:53
to
30:53
put
30:53
yourself
30:54
under
30:54
pressure
30:54
to
30:55
do
30:55
a
30:55
certain
30:55
amount
30:56
of
30:57
learning.
30:58
I
30:58
keep
30:58
wanting
30:58
to
30:58
put
30:59
it
30:59
in
30:59
inverted
30:59
commas
31:00
because
31:00
obviously
31:00
learning
31:01
is
31:01
so
31:01
much
31:01
more
31:01
expansive
31:02
than
31:02
that.
31:02
But
31:03
if
31:03
you
31:03
do
31:03
want
31:04
to
31:04
have
31:04
a
31:04
structure
31:05
whereby
31:06
every
31:06
single
31:07
day
31:07
she
31:07
does
31:07
a
31:07
little
31:07
bit
31:08
of
31:08
something
31:08
at
31:08
a
31:09
table
31:09
just
31:10
because
31:10
it
31:10
makes
31:10
you
31:11
feel
31:11
better
31:11
and
31:11
also
31:12
because
31:12
you
31:12
just
31:12
want
31:12
to
31:12
kind
31:13
of
31:13
get
31:13
that
31:13
kind
31:13
of
31:14
rhythm
31:14
to
31:15
your
31:15
days
31:15
or
31:16
pattern
31:16
to
31:16
your
31:17
days,
31:17
I
31:17
would
31:17
be
31:18
steering
31:18
clear
31:18
of
31:18
anything
31:19
that
31:19
smacks
31:19
of
31:20
school.
31:20
So
31:20
anything
31:20
that's
31:21
like
31:21
boring
31:21
or
31:22
very
31:22
work
31:23
sheety
31:24
and
31:24
I
31:24
would
31:24
be
31:24
going
31:25
for
31:25
sitting
31:25
down
31:26
and
31:26
doing
31:26
things
31:27
like
31:27
drawing,
31:28
coloring,
31:30
reading,
31:33
watching
31:34
really
31:34
cool
31:34
documentaries
31:35
and
31:35
then
31:35
maybe
31:36
writing
31:36
something
31:37
about
31:37
them.
31:38
You
31:38
can
31:38
get
31:38
some
31:38
really
31:39
fun
31:39
workbooks.
31:39
There's
31:40
some
31:40
really
31:40
nice
31:40
home
31:41
ed
31:41
kind
31:41
of
31:42
curriculums
31:42
out
31:42
there
31:43
that
31:43
you
31:43
can
31:43
do
31:43
that
31:44
you
31:44
can
31:44
sit
31:44
down
31:44
at
31:44
a
31:45
table
31:45
and
31:45
do.
31:45
But
31:46
I
31:46
would
31:46
be
31:46
really
31:47
Making
31:47
it
31:47
not
31:47
schooly.
31:48
Because
31:48
I
31:48
think
31:49
if
31:49
you,
31:49
if
31:49
it
31:49
feels
31:50
a
31:50
bit
31:50
like
31:50
school,
31:50
like,
31:51
oh,
31:51
this
31:51
is
31:51
the
31:51
kind
31:51
of
31:51
thing
31:52
we
31:52
did
31:52
in
31:52
school,
31:52
I
31:53
think
31:53
you're
31:53
more
31:53
likely
31:53
to
31:54
get
31:54
a
31:54
pushback
31:54
that
31:55
you
31:55
wouldn't
31:55
get
31:55
otherwise.
31:56
That
31:56
leads
31:56
on
31:56
to
31:56
my
31:57
next
31:57
question.
31:59
Curriculums
32:01
I
32:02
have
32:03
seen
32:04
online,
32:04
you
32:05
know,
32:05
you
32:05
see
32:05
a
32:05
lot
32:05
of
32:05
people
32:06
selling
32:06
them
32:06
or
32:07
advertising
32:07
different
32:08
ones.
32:08
Obviously
32:09
there's
32:09
the
32:09
national
32:09
curriculum,
32:10
but
32:10
I've
32:11
heard,
32:11
you
32:12
know,
32:12
that
32:12
it's
32:13
not
32:13
really
32:13
moving
32:14
on
32:14
with,
32:15
with
32:15
the
32:15
times.
32:16
But
32:16
if
32:16
you
32:16
follow
32:16
that,
32:17
obviously
32:17
that
32:17
will
32:17
lead
32:18
you
32:18
more
32:18
into
32:19
the
32:19
GCSES
32:20
and
32:20
qualifications.
32:21
I'm
32:22
shaking
32:22
my
32:22
head
32:22
at
32:23
this
32:23
point.
32:23
Okay.
32:24
Only
32:24
because.
32:24
Let
32:25
me
32:25
just
32:25
interrupt
32:25
briefly
32:26
that
32:26
the
32:26
curriculum
32:27
at
32:27
age
32:27
8
32:28
is
32:28
not
32:29
helpful
32:29
for
32:29
your
32:29
GCSEs
32:30
at
32:30
age
32:31
16.
32:31
It's
32:32
really
32:32
doesn't.
32:33
There's
32:33
no,
32:34
no,
32:34
there's
32:35
no.
32:35
You
32:35
could
32:35
do
32:35
a
32:35
forest
32:36
curriculum,
32:37
AJ
32:37
and
32:37
still
32:37
do
32:38
your
32:38
GCSes
32:38
quite
32:39
happily.
32:40
13,
32:40
12,
32:41
14,
32:42
GCS.
32:43
The
32:43
GCSE
32:43
curriculum
32:44
is,
32:44
is
32:44
almost
32:45
like
32:45
a
32:45
little.
32:47
It's
32:47
like
32:47
if
32:47
you
32:47
go
32:48
for
32:48
a
32:48
McDonald's
32:48
meal
32:49
and
32:49
you
32:49
get
32:49
that
32:49
paper
32:50
bag
32:50
and
32:50
you
32:50
got
32:51
your
32:51
drink
32:51
and
32:51
your
32:51
chips
32:52
and
32:52
your
32:52
burger
32:52
in
32:53
there,
32:53
right?
32:53
It's
32:54
like
32:54
its
32:54
own
32:55
little
32:55
self
32:55
contained
32:55
meal
32:56
that
32:56
you
32:56
carry
32:57
around
32:57
in
32:57
a
32:57
bag.
32:57
That's
32:57
what
32:57
GCSE
32:58
learning
32:58
is.
32:59
You
32:59
like,
32:59
if
33:00
you
33:00
want
33:00
to
33:00
do
33:01
GCSE
33:03
astronomy
33:04
as
33:04
an
33:05
example,
33:05
because
33:05
my
33:06
son
33:06
did,
33:06
so
33:06
I
33:07
feels
33:07
relevant
33:07
in
33:08
my
33:08
head.
33:08
You
33:08
pick
33:08
up
33:09
your
33:09
little
33:09
bag
33:09
of
33:10
GCSE
33:10
astronomy
33:11
curriculum,
33:11
you
33:11
study
33:12
it
33:12
and
33:12
you
33:12
sit
33:12
the
33:12
exam.
33:13
Doesn't
33:13
matter
33:13
what
33:14
you
33:14
did
33:14
at
33:14
aj.
33:15
So
33:15
if
33:16
that's
33:16
helpful,
33:16
you
33:16
can
33:17
eliminate
33:17
that.
33:17
So
33:18
talk
33:18
to
33:18
me
33:18
about
33:18
other
33:18
curriculums.
33:19
Yeah,
33:19
so
33:19
you
33:20
know,
33:20
I've
33:20
heard,
33:20
is
33:21
it
33:22
the
33:23
Swedish
33:26
different?
33:26
Like
33:27
America's
33:27
got
33:28
lots
33:28
of
33:28
homemade
33:29
curriculums,
33:29
like
33:30
the
33:30
Bold
33:30
and
33:30
the
33:31
Beautiful.
33:31
Is
33:31
it?
33:31
And
33:32
different
33:32
other,
33:32
other
33:33
countries,
33:34
like,
33:34
where
33:35
do
33:35
you
33:35
find
33:35
them?
33:36
Like
33:36
Twinkl
33:36
has
33:37
the
33:37
national
33:37
curriculum
33:38
and
33:38
lots
33:38
of
33:39
worksheets.
33:40
But
33:40
if
33:40
you
33:41
are
33:41
like
33:41
me
33:42
and
33:42
want
33:42
to
33:42
at
33:42
least
33:43
initially
33:44
link
33:44
it
33:44
to
33:44
something
33:45
so
33:46
you
33:46
know,
33:46
you,
33:46
you
33:47
know
33:47
you're
33:47
kind
33:47
of
33:47
on
33:48
the
33:48
right
33:48
track.
33:49
How
33:49
do
33:49
you
33:49
access
33:50
these
33:50
different
33:51
curriculums?
33:52
Is
33:52
it
33:52
something
33:52
that
33:53
you
33:53
pay
33:53
for?
33:54
I
33:54
can't
33:54
seem
33:55
to
33:55
find
33:55
them
33:56
online.
33:57
A
33:57
curriculum
33:58
is
33:59
basically
33:59
a
34:00
fancy
34:00
word
34:00
for
34:01
things
34:01
you're
34:02
going
34:02
to
34:02
learn.
34:03
Okay,
34:04
so
34:04
like
34:05
if
34:05
you
34:05
were
34:05
to,
34:06
if
34:06
you
34:06
were
34:06
to
34:06
say
34:06
to
34:07
yourself
34:07
you
34:07
wanted
34:08
to
34:08
learn
34:08
Spanish
34:08
because
34:09
you're
34:09
going
34:09
away
34:09
on
34:09
holiday,
34:10
you
34:10
wouldn't
34:10
think
34:11
to
34:11
yourself,
34:11
right,
34:11
I
34:11
need
34:11
a
34:11
Spanish
34:12
curriculum,
34:13
you'd
34:13
be
34:13
like,
34:13
okay,
34:14
I'm
34:14
going
34:14
to
34:14
go
34:14
on
34:14
duolingo
34:15
and
34:15
I'm
34:16
going
34:16
to
34:16
get
34:16
like
34:16
an
34:16
audiobook
34:17
of
34:17
Spanish
34:18
right
34:18
now.
34:18
It's.
34:20
We
34:20
get
34:20
ourselves
34:20
in
34:20
such
34:21
a
34:21
tizzy
34:21
when
34:21
it
34:21
comes
34:22
to
34:22
our
34:22
child's
34:23
learning.
34:23
We
34:23
kind
34:23
of
34:23
think,
34:23
oh,
34:24
I
34:24
need
34:24
this
34:24
curriculum
34:25
or
34:25
that
34:25
curriculum.
34:26
But
34:26
a
34:26
curriculum
34:27
is
34:27
really
34:27
just
34:27
people
34:27
who
34:28
are
34:28
selling
34:28
resources
34:29
to
34:29
help
34:29
to
34:29
help
34:29
your
34:29
child
34:30
learn
34:30
some
34:30
things.
34:31
That's
34:31
literally
34:32
all
34:32
it
34:32
is.
34:32
It's
34:33
a
34:33
framework
34:34
whereby
34:34
they
34:34
sort
34:35
of
34:35
say,
34:35
oh,
34:35
if
34:35
you
34:35
follow
34:36
our
34:36
curriculum,
34:37
your
34:37
child
34:38
will
34:38
do
34:38
maths
34:38
and
34:39
they'll
34:39
do
34:39
these
34:39
topics,
34:40
or
34:40
if
34:40
you
34:40
follow
34:41
this
34:42
curriculum,
34:42
your
34:42
child
34:43
will
34:43
learn
34:43
about
34:44
these
34:44
books
34:44
this
34:44
year
34:45
or
34:45
something.
34:46
Now
34:47
the
34:47
benefit
34:47
of
34:47
a
34:48
curriculum
34:48
is
34:48
it
34:48
takes
34:49
out
34:49
your
34:49
thought
34:49
process
34:50
in
34:50
as
34:50
much
34:50
as
34:51
you
34:51
don't
34:51
really
34:51
have
34:51
to
34:51
worry
34:52
too
34:52
much
34:52
about
34:52
what
34:52
you're
34:53
going
34:53
to
34:53
be
34:53
teaching
34:53
that
34:54
year
34:54
in
34:54
inverted
34:55
commas
34:55
teaching,
34:56
but
34:56
what
34:56
you.
34:56
What
34:57
your
34:57
child
34:57
is
34:57
going
34:57
to
34:57
be
34:58
learning
34:58
that
34:58
year.
34:58
Because
34:58
the
34:59
curriculum
35:00
kind
35:00
of
35:00
lays
35:00
it
35:00
out
35:01
so
35:01
you
35:01
don't
35:01
have
35:01
to
35:01
think
35:01
about
35:02
it.
35:02
You
35:02
could
35:02
just
35:02
be
35:02
like,
35:02
oh,
35:03
okay,
35:03
I
35:04
know
35:04
that
35:04
like,
35:05
for
35:05
example,
35:05
we
35:05
did
35:05
something
35:06
called
35:06
Story,
35:07
the
35:07
Story
35:07
of
35:08
the
35:08
World.
35:08
I
35:08
think
35:08
it's
35:08
called
35:09
Story
35:09
of
35:09
the
35:09
World,
35:09
which
35:10
was
35:10
an
35:10
American
35:11
history
35:13
series
35:14
for
35:14
books
35:14
and
35:15
they
35:15
had
35:15
workbooks
35:16
and
35:16
it
35:16
really
35:17
encompassed
35:17
history,
35:18
but
35:18
also
35:18
geography
35:19
and
35:19
also
35:19
language
35:20
arts
35:20
and,
35:21
you
35:21
know,
35:22
all
35:22
sorts
35:22
of
35:22
different
35:22
things.
35:23
And
35:24
so
35:24
while
35:25
that
35:25
theoretically
35:26
was
35:26
a
35:26
curriculum
35:27
for
35:27
quite
35:28
a
35:28
lot
35:28
of
35:28
the
35:28
subjects,
35:29
it
35:29
actually
35:29
even
35:29
had
35:29
some
35:30
maths
35:30
and
35:30
stuff
35:30
in
35:30
there
35:30
now
35:31
I
35:31
think
35:31
about
35:31
it,
35:31
and
35:31
some
35:32
science
35:32
actually,
35:32
and
35:32
art.
35:33
So
35:33
it
35:33
really
35:33
was
35:34
a
35:34
curriculum
35:35
in
35:35
its
35:35
own
35:35
right,
35:35
I
35:36
suppose.
35:37
And
35:37
by
35:38
following
35:38
that,
35:38
it
35:38
meant
35:39
that
35:39
I
35:39
didn't
35:39
have
35:39
to
35:39
sit
35:40
there
35:40
and
35:40
think
35:40
up,
35:40
okay,
35:41
what
35:41
are
35:41
we
35:41
going
35:41
to
35:41
do
35:41
for
35:41
geography
35:42
today?
35:42
Or
35:42
what
35:42
are
35:42
we
35:42
going
35:42
to
35:43
do
35:43
for
35:43
history
35:43
today?
35:43
Because
35:44
I
35:44
just
35:44
of
35:44
did
35:45
what
35:45
the
35:45
book
35:45
told
35:45
me
35:45
to
35:45
do.
35:46
Now,
35:46
really,
35:47
quite
35:47
quickly,
35:47
I
35:48
found
35:48
that
35:48
a
35:48
little
35:48
bit
35:48
boring
35:49
and
35:49
a
35:49
bit
35:49
restrictive.
35:50
So
35:50
I
35:50
just
35:50
branched
35:51
off
35:51
and
35:51
did
35:51
my
35:51
own
35:52
thing.
35:53
And
35:53
it
35:53
very
35:53
much
35:54
depends.
35:54
Some
35:55
parents
35:55
really
35:55
like
35:56
to
35:56
just
35:56
do
35:56
their
35:56
own
35:57
thing
35:57
and
35:57
be
35:57
like,
35:57
oh,
35:58
what
35:58
should
35:58
we
35:58
do
35:58
for
35:58
maths
35:59
today?
35:59
We
35:59
haven't
35:59
done
35:59
fractions,
36:00
let's
36:00
bake
36:00
a
36:00
cake
36:00
and
36:01
chop
36:01
it
36:01
into
36:01
bits.
36:02
Other
36:02
people
36:02
think,
36:03
I
36:03
don't
36:03
know
36:03
maths,
36:04
oh
36:04
my
36:05
God,
36:05
I
36:05
don't
36:05
know
36:06
Christ
36:06
algebra,
36:07
I
36:07
don't
36:07
know.
36:07
And.
36:08
And
36:08
they
36:08
really
36:08
need
36:09
some
36:10
input.
36:10
And
36:10
especially
36:11
early
36:11
on
36:11
you
36:12
can
36:12
really
36:12
feel
36:12
that
36:13
you
36:13
need
36:14
the
36:14
structure
36:14
almost
36:15
like
36:15
a
36:15
scaffold
36:16
to
36:16
just
36:17
kind
36:17
of.
36:17
Support
36:17
you
36:17
bang
36:18
it
36:18
off.
36:19
Just
36:19
because
36:20
I
36:20
think
36:20
if
36:20
I
36:21
just
36:21
start
36:21
with
36:21
that,
36:22
then
36:22
I'll
36:22
As
36:22
I
36:22
get
36:22
more
36:23
confident,
36:23
I'll
36:23
be
36:23
able
36:23
to
36:23
move
36:24
away
36:24
and
36:24
maybe
36:25
do
36:25
more
36:25
project
36:25
topic
36:26
learning
36:26
those
36:26
kind
36:26
of
36:27
things
36:27
that
36:27
I've
36:27
heard
36:27
about.
36:28
But
36:28
I
36:28
think
36:28
as
36:28
a
36:29
newbie,
36:29
I'm
36:30
gonna
36:30
need
36:30
something
36:31
to
36:31
just
36:32
loosely
36:33
follow
36:34
because
36:34
I
36:34
don't
36:34
know
36:34
what
36:35
she's
36:35
already
36:35
done.
36:35
You
36:36
know,
36:36
school,
36:36
they
36:37
give,
36:38
you
36:38
know,
36:39
the
36:39
report
36:40
at
36:40
the
36:40
end
36:40
of
36:40
the
36:40
year,
36:41
but
36:41
it's
36:41
really,
36:42
it's
36:42
like
36:42
a
36:42
sentence.
36:43
You
36:43
know,
36:43
they've
36:43
done
36:44
this,
36:44
you
36:44
know
36:44
they're
36:44
coming
36:45
on
36:45
in
36:45
mass,
36:45
but
36:45
you
36:46
don't,
36:46
you
36:46
don't
36:46
know
36:46
what
36:47
really
36:47
they've
36:47
done.
36:48
Everything
36:48
I
36:48
tell
36:49
her
36:49
at
36:49
the
36:49
moment
36:49
is,
36:50
oh,
36:50
yeah,
36:50
I
36:50
already
36:50
know
36:50
that.
36:51
All
36:52
right,
36:52
okay,
36:53
yes,
36:53
it's,
36:54
it's
36:54
irrelevant
36:55
what
36:55
she's
36:55
done.
36:55
If
36:56
she's
36:56
done
36:56
it,
36:56
she'll
36:57
tell
36:57
you
36:57
and
36:57
then
36:57
you
36:58
move
36:58
through
36:58
it
36:58
quicker
36:59
or
36:59
you
36:59
don't
36:59
do
36:59
it
37:00
or
37:00
she
37:00
hasn't
37:00
done
37:01
it,
37:01
she'll
37:01
tell
37:01
you
37:01
and
37:02
you
37:02
do
37:02
it
37:02
like
37:03
it
37:03
makes
37:03
no
37:03
difference
37:03
what
37:04
she's
37:04
done.
37:04
Don't
37:05
worry
37:05
about
37:05
what
37:05
school
37:06
have
37:06
done
37:06
or
37:06
haven't
37:07
done.
37:07
This
37:08
is
37:08
about
37:08
what
37:08
you
37:09
two
37:09
are
37:09
going
37:09
to
37:09
do
37:09
together.
37:10
And
37:10
I
37:10
agree.
37:10
I
37:10
think
37:11
in
37:11
the
37:11
early
37:11
days,
37:12
unless
37:13
you're
37:13
very
37:13
confident
37:13
about
37:14
things,
37:14
it
37:14
is
37:15
nice
37:15
to
37:15
have
37:15
a
37:15
bit
37:15
of
37:16
a
37:16
structure
37:16
so
37:16
you
37:16
can
37:17
sort
37:17
of
37:17
think,
37:17
oh,
37:17
okay,
37:18
I
37:18
don't
37:18
have
37:18
to,
37:18
like,
37:19
I'm
37:19
not
37:19
doing
37:19
all
37:19
of
37:19
this
37:20
on
37:20
my
37:20
own.
37:20
I've
37:20
got
37:21
a
37:21
bit
37:21
of
37:21
backup.
37:22
And
37:22
then
37:22
it
37:22
is
37:23
really
37:23
just
37:23
a
37:23
case
37:23
of
37:24
doing
37:24
some
37:24
research.
37:25
Don't
37:26
spend
37:26
too
37:26
much
37:26
money
37:27
because
37:27
like
37:27
you
37:28
say,
37:28
chances
37:28
are
37:29
you're
37:29
going
37:29
to
37:29
end
37:29
up
37:30
doing
37:30
your
37:30
own
37:30
thing.
37:31
So
37:31
I
37:31
would
37:31
be
37:32
like,
37:32
having
37:32
a
37:32
really
37:33
clear
37:33
budget,
37:34
trying
37:34
to
37:34
find
37:34
something
37:35
that
37:35
covers
37:35
all
37:36
the
37:36
bases
37:36
that
37:36
you
37:37
want
37:37
it
37:37
to
37:37
cover.
37:38
Bear
37:38
in
37:38
mind
37:39
that
37:39
a
37:39
lot
37:39
of
37:39
things
37:40
won't
37:40
cover
37:41
maths
37:42
because
37:42
a
37:42
lot
37:42
of
37:42
them
37:42
will
37:43
cover
37:43
lots
37:43
of
37:43
other
37:43
things.
37:43
Maths
37:44
is
37:44
always
37:45
slightly
37:45
separate,
37:46
I
37:46
think,
37:46
sometimes
37:47
in
37:47
these
37:47
curriculums,
37:48
but
37:48
not
37:48
necessarily.
37:49
So
37:50
find
37:50
one
37:50
that
37:50
covers
37:51
the
37:51
bases
37:51
you
37:51
want
37:51
to
37:52
cover.
37:52
And
37:52
if
37:52
it's
37:52
got
37:52
a
37:52
really
37:53
obvious
37:53
gap,
37:53
like
37:53
it
37:54
doesn't
37:54
do
37:54
English
37:54
or
37:55
it
37:55
doesn't.
37:55
Or
37:55
maybe
37:55
it
37:56
does
37:56
American
37:56
English,
37:56
you
37:57
want
37:57
to
37:57
do
37:57
English
37:57
English.
37:58
Or
37:58
maybe
37:58
it
37:58
doesn't
37:59
do
37:59
maths
37:59
or
37:59
whatever.
38:00
Or
38:00
science,
38:00
whatever,
38:01
or
38:01
practical
38:01
science.
38:02
Don't
38:03
forget,
38:03
you
38:03
can
38:03
plug
38:03
that
38:04
in.
38:04
You
38:04
know,
38:04
you
38:05
can
38:05
do
38:05
that
38:05
little
38:05
bit
38:06
yourself
38:06
and
38:06
just
38:07
like
38:07
throw
38:07
a
38:07
bit
38:07
of
38:08
math
38:08
and
38:08
throw
38:08
a
38:08
bit
38:08
of
38:08
science
38:09
in.
38:10
But
38:10
the
38:10
other
38:10
thing
38:10
you
38:11
need
38:11
to
38:11
think
38:11
about
38:11
is
38:11
what
38:12
you
38:12
want
38:13
your
38:13
home
38:13
education
38:14
to
38:14
look
38:14
like.
38:15
What
38:15
are
38:15
the
38:15
values
38:16
you're
38:16
looking
38:17
for
38:17
here?
38:17
Is
38:18
it
38:18
that
38:18
you
38:18
want
38:19
your
38:19
daughter
38:19
to
38:20
be
38:20
super
38:21
engaged
38:21
with
38:21
the
38:21
natural
38:22
world?
38:22
You
38:22
know,
38:22
like,
38:22
do
38:23
you,
38:23
do
38:23
you
38:23
want
38:23
her
38:24
to
38:24
be
38:25
a
38:25
really
38:25
autonomous
38:26
learner?
38:27
Do
38:27
you
38:27
want
38:27
her
38:27
to
38:27
have
38:28
that
38:28
kind
38:28
of
38:28
scientific
38:29
rigor,
38:29
you
38:29
know,
38:29
analysis
38:30
and
38:30
understanding?
38:31
Do
38:31
you
38:31
want
38:31
her
38:31
to
38:31
be
38:32
a
38:32
big
38:32
voracious
38:32
reader?
38:33
Like,
38:33
what
38:34
is
38:34
the
38:34
vibe
38:34
you're
38:35
looking
38:35
for?
38:35
And
38:35
then
38:36
try
38:36
to
38:36
find
38:36
a
38:36
curriculum
38:37
that
38:37
kind
38:37
of
38:37
fits
38:37
that
38:38
vibe.
38:38
There's
38:38
no
38:38
point
38:38
going
38:39
for
38:39
something
38:39
like,
38:40
like
38:40
a
38:40
very,
38:41
like
38:41
a
38:41
kind
38:42
of
38:42
practical,
38:42
hands
38:43
on,
38:43
sciencey,
38:44
craftsy
38:45
curriculum
38:45
if
38:46
actually,
38:47
you
38:47
know,
38:47
that's
38:47
really
38:48
not
38:48
your
38:48
thing
38:48
and
38:48
it
38:49
makes
38:49
a
38:49
lot
38:49
of
38:49
mess
38:49
and
38:50
you
38:50
got
38:50
other
38:50
children
38:50
to
38:51
look
38:51
after
38:51
and
38:51
it's
38:51
just
38:51
going
38:51
to
38:52
be
38:52
kind
38:52
of
38:52
chaotic.
38:53
You
38:53
may
38:53
prefer
38:54
something
38:54
that's
38:54
a
38:54
bit
38:55
more,
38:55
okay,
38:55
let's
38:55
incorporate
38:56
it
38:56
into
38:56
a
38:56
nature
38:57
walk
38:57
or
38:57
let's
38:58
incorporate
38:58
it
38:58
into
38:59
sitting
39:00
and
39:00
watching
39:01
particular
39:01
videos
39:02
every
39:02
day,
39:02
for
39:02
example.
39:03
Whatever
39:03
works
39:03
for
39:03
you.
39:04
Whatever
39:04
is
39:04
your
39:04
kind
39:04
of
39:04
vibe.
39:05
I
39:05
think
39:05
as
39:05
a
39:05
home,
39:06
as
39:06
a.
39:06
Home
39:06
educator,
39:07
I
39:07
think
39:07
it's
39:07
hard
39:08
to
39:08
know
39:08
what
39:08
you
39:08
buy
39:08
a
39:09
business
39:09
that
39:09
you
39:09
start.
39:09
But
39:10
so
39:10
maybe
39:10
that
39:10
will
39:10
evolve
39:11
for
39:11
me.
39:11
But
39:11
I
39:12
just
39:12
wanted
39:12
to
39:12
be
39:12
happy.
39:13
That
39:13
is,
39:13
that's
39:14
all
39:14
I'm
39:14
after.
39:15
And
39:16
seeing
39:16
her
39:16
play,
39:17
I
39:17
think
39:17
that
39:18
that
39:18
kind
39:18
of
39:18
gets
39:19
eroded.
39:19
Not
39:19
that
39:20
school
39:20
is,
39:20
you
39:21
know,
39:21
horrendous,
39:21
but
39:22
she's
39:22
there
39:23
for
39:23
the
39:23
vast
39:24
chunk
39:24
of
39:24
her
39:24
day
39:25
that
39:25
she's
39:25
awake
39:26
and
39:26
alert
39:26
and
39:27
like
39:27
her
39:27
best
39:27
hours
39:28
are
39:28
there
39:29
so
39:29
that
39:29
when
39:29
she
39:29
comes
39:29
home
39:30
she's
39:30
just,
39:30
she
39:31
just
39:31
wants
39:31
her
39:31
hour
39:31
of
39:31
TV
39:32
and
39:32
she
39:32
wants
39:32
dinner
39:32
and
39:32
then
39:32
it's,
39:33
it's
39:33
time
39:33
for
39:33
bath
39:34
and
39:34
bed.
39:34
You
39:34
know,
39:34
it's
39:34
just
39:35
there's
39:35
no
39:35
time.
39:35
Whereas
39:36
at
39:37
the
39:37
weekend
39:37
she
39:37
can
39:38
just
39:39
devotes
39:40
herself
39:40
to
39:41
playing
39:41
with
39:41
her
39:41
toys
39:42
and
39:42
things.
39:42
And
39:42
I
39:42
think
39:42
that
39:43
is
39:43
what
39:43
she
39:43
needs
39:43
more
39:44
of.
39:45
I
39:45
think
39:45
you've
39:45
answered
39:46
your
39:46
question
39:46
perfectly.
39:47
Then.
39:47
I
39:47
think
39:47
you
39:47
need
39:47
a
39:48
play
39:48
based
39:48
curriculum.
39:49
If,
39:49
I
39:49
mean,
39:49
I
39:50
really
39:50
don't
39:50
think
39:50
you
39:50
need
39:51
a
39:51
curriculum,
39:51
however,
39:52
right?
39:52
If
39:52
it
39:53
makes
39:53
you
39:53
feel
39:53
better,
39:53
get
39:54
a
39:54
play
39:54
based
39:54
curriculum.
39:55
Or
39:55
think
39:55
to
39:56
yourself,
39:56
okay,
39:57
let's
39:57
do
39:57
a
39:57
little
39:57
project,
39:58
like
39:58
she
39:59
gets
39:59
to
39:59
design
40:00
something
40:00
on
40:01
paper
40:01
that
40:01
she
40:02
then
40:02
makes
40:02
in
40:02
Lego.
40:03
And
40:03
then
40:03
she
40:04
has
40:04
to
40:04
like
40:05
explain
40:05
to
40:05
you
40:05
afterwards,
40:06
like
40:06
how
40:06
she
40:06
did
40:07
it
40:07
and
40:07
what,
40:08
what
40:08
she
40:08
found
40:08
difficult
40:09
about
40:09
it
40:09
and
40:09
how
40:09
she
40:10
would
40:10
do
40:10
it
40:10
differently
40:11
next
40:11
time.
40:11
That's
40:12
the
40:12
scientific
40:12
method.
40:13
You're
40:13
ticking
40:13
off
40:13
science
40:14
nicely.
40:14
You're
40:15
ticking
40:15
off
40:15
literacy,
40:16
you're
40:16
ticking
40:16
off
40:17
writing,
40:17
you're
40:17
ticking
40:18
off
40:18
research.
40:19
There's
40:20
a
40:20
lot
40:20
of
40:20
soft
40:20
skills
40:21
and
40:21
hard
40:22
skills
40:22
in
40:22
there
40:23
that
40:23
you
40:23
could
40:23
do
40:24
Just
40:24
with
40:24
a
40:24
Lego
40:24
project
40:25
over
40:25
two
40:25
weeks.
40:26
Play
40:26
based
40:26
learning.
40:27
Yeah.
40:27
I
40:28
think
40:28
it's
40:28
getting
40:28
maybe
40:29
your
40:29
mind
40:29
in
40:30
that
40:30
head
40:30
that,
40:31
that
40:31
space
40:31
that
40:32
is
40:33
seeing
40:33
that
40:33
as
40:34
learning
40:34
as
40:34
opposed
40:35
to,
40:35
well,
40:35
I've
40:35
got
40:36
no
40:36
worksheets
40:37
to
40:37
true.
40:38
So
40:38
I
40:38
think
40:38
it's
40:39
going
40:39
to
40:39
be
40:39
changing
40:40
in
40:40
me
40:40
more
40:40
than
40:40
anybody
40:41
else
40:41
that's
40:41
going
40:41
to
40:41
need
40:42
to
40:42
happen.
40:42
That
40:43
shift
40:43
will
40:43
happen
40:44
because
40:44
what
40:44
you
40:44
will
40:45
do
40:45
is
40:45
you
40:45
will
40:45
see
40:46
her
40:46
learning
40:47
through
40:47
the
40:47
day
40:48
as
40:48
she's
40:48
playing,
40:48
as
40:49
she's
40:49
interacting
40:49
with
40:50
people
40:50
at
40:50
the
40:50
garden
40:51
center
40:51
or
40:51
whatever.
40:51
You
40:51
will
40:52
see
40:52
that
40:52
happening
40:53
and
40:53
then
40:53
you
40:53
will
40:53
start
40:54
being,
40:54
being
40:54
like,
40:55
oh,
40:56
actually
40:56
learning
40:56
is
40:57
taking
40:57
place
40:57
all
40:57
these
40:58
times.
40:58
One
40:58
thing
40:58
that
40:58
might
40:59
help,
40:59
which
40:59
I
40:59
was
40:59
like
41:00
doing,
41:00
was
41:01
keeping
41:01
a
41:01
little
41:02
homeschooling
41:02
kind
41:03
of
41:03
journal
41:03
where
41:04
I
41:04
would
41:04
write
41:04
down
41:05
the
41:05
things
41:05
that
41:05
I
41:05
thought
41:06
they'd
41:06
learned
41:06
that
41:06
day.
41:06
And
41:07
you'd
41:07
be
41:07
amazed
41:08
how
41:08
many
41:08
things
41:08
they
41:08
learn
41:09
when
41:09
they're
41:09
not
41:09
sitting,
41:09
sitting
41:10
at
41:10
a
41:10
table.
41:11
Yeah.
41:12
Just
41:12
out
41:12
and
41:12
about.
41:13
Yeah,
41:14
yeah.
41:15
Just.
41:15
I
41:16
don't
41:16
want,
41:17
I
41:17
can
41:18
appreciate
41:18
the
41:19
learning,
41:19
you
41:19
know,
41:19
if
41:19
you
41:19
take
41:19
it
41:20
to
41:20
the
41:20
library
41:20
or
41:20
if
41:20
you
41:20
take
41:21
it
41:21
to
41:22
the
41:22
shop
41:22
and
41:22
she's
41:23
working
41:23
out
41:23
the
41:24
money
41:24
and
41:24
the
41:24
change
41:24
and
41:25
those
41:25
kind
41:25
of
41:25
things.
41:25
But
41:26
I
41:26
suppose,
41:27
you
41:27
know,
41:27
if
41:27
I'm
41:27
kind
41:28
of
41:28
doing
41:28
a
41:28
washing
41:29
and
41:29
looking
41:29
at
41:30
the
41:30
baby,
41:30
I
41:30
don't
41:31
want
41:31
her
41:31
to,
41:31
to
41:32
get
41:32
lost
41:32
in
41:32
that.
41:32
So
41:33
it's,
41:33
it's
41:33
just
41:34
having
41:34
projects
41:35
and
41:35
things
41:35
that
41:35
she
41:35
can
41:36
be
41:36
keeping
41:36
busy
41:37
with.
41:37
Keeping
41:38
busy
41:38
is
41:38
an
41:38
interesting
41:39
idea
41:39
because
41:40
I
41:40
am
41:41
a
41:41
firm
41:41
believer
41:42
in
41:43
the
41:44
benefits
41:44
of
41:45
getting
41:45
very
41:45
bored
41:46
of
41:47
children
41:47
being
41:47
very
41:47
bored
41:48
and
41:48
entertaining
41:49
themselves.
41:49
And
41:50
there's
41:50
a
41:50
lot
41:50
of
41:50
learning
41:51
that
41:51
could
41:51
be
41:51
done
41:51
there.
41:52
And
41:52
it's
41:52
one
41:53
thing
41:53
that
41:53
at
41:53
a,
41:54
at
41:54
school
41:54
there's
41:54
always
41:55
something,
41:55
something,
41:55
something,
41:56
something,
41:56
something
41:56
like
41:57
that.
41:57
You
41:57
know,
41:57
it's
41:57
very,
41:58
it's
41:58
regimented,
41:59
but
41:59
it's
41:59
also
41:59
very
42:00
busy,
42:00
sensorily,
42:01
very
42:01
busy.
42:02
And
42:02
I
42:03
think
42:03
that
42:03
home
42:03
education
42:04
is
42:04
lovely
42:04
for
42:04
the,
42:05
for
42:05
the
42:05
just
42:05
the
42:06
sheer
42:06
amount
42:06
of
42:07
time
42:07
when
42:07
a
42:07
child
42:07
is
42:08
both
42:09
kicking
42:09
around,
42:10
doing
42:10
what
42:10
you're
42:10
doing.
42:11
If
42:11
you're
42:11
feeding
42:11
the
42:12
baby,
42:12
if
42:12
you're
42:12
washing,
42:13
doing
42:13
all
42:14
those
42:14
things,
42:14
they
42:14
can
42:14
be
42:14
there
42:15
with
42:15
you
42:15
doing
42:15
all
42:16
that
42:16
stuff
42:16
or
42:16
they're
42:17
just
42:17
on
42:17
their
42:17
own
42:17
kind
42:18
of
42:18
like
42:18
drumming
42:18
their
42:18
heels
42:19
and
42:19
being
42:19
like,
42:19
I'm
42:19
bored,
42:19
I'm
42:20
bored,
42:20
I'm
42:20
bored.
42:20
Right.
42:21
Until
42:21
they're
42:21
not
42:21
bored
42:21
and
42:22
they
42:22
find
42:22
themselves
42:22
an
42:22
amazingly
42:23
creative,
42:24
imaginative
42:25
thing
42:26
to
42:26
relieve
42:26
their
42:26
boredom.
42:27
And
42:27
these
42:27
are
42:27
skills
42:28
that
42:28
most
42:28
children
42:29
don't
42:29
get
42:29
to
42:29
develop
42:30
because
42:30
they're
42:30
not
42:30
given
42:30
the
42:31
chance
42:31
to
42:31
get
42:31
bored.
42:32
Yeah,
42:33
yeah,
42:33
that's
42:34
true.
42:34
I
42:34
mean
42:34
she
42:34
doesn't
42:35
say,
42:35
I'm
42:36
bored
42:36
at
42:36
home.
42:37
She's
42:37
always
42:38
immersing
42:38
herself
42:39
in
42:40
crafts
42:40
or
42:40
projects
42:41
or
42:41
something
42:41
like
42:41
that.
42:42
I
42:42
just.
42:43
I
42:43
hope
42:43
that
42:43
I
42:43
can
42:44
get
42:44
reading
42:44
to
42:45
be
42:45
something
42:46
that
42:46
she's.
42:46
She
42:47
likes
42:47
to
42:47
do,
42:47
because
42:48
the
42:48
school
42:48
book
42:48
she
42:48
comes
42:49
home
42:49
with,
42:49
she.
42:49
She
42:50
does
42:50
it
42:50
because
42:50
she
42:51
has
42:51
to,
42:51
not
42:51
because
42:51
she
42:52
wants
42:52
to.
42:53
So
42:53
I've
42:53
tried
42:53
to.
42:54
I'm
42:54
building
42:54
up
42:54
a
42:54
bit
42:55
of
42:55
a
42:55
library.
42:55
I've
42:55
been
42:55
to
42:55
the
42:56
charity
42:56
shops
42:56
and
42:56
trying
42:57
to
42:57
get
42:57
as
42:57
many
42:57
books
42:58
as
42:58
I
42:58
can
42:58
to
42:59
entice.
43:00
There's
43:00
a
43:00
nice
43:01
thing,
43:01
which
43:01
I
43:01
think
43:01
is.
43:02
I
43:02
think
43:03
it's
43:03
the
43:03
Charlotte
43:03
Mason
43:03
approach,
43:04
which
43:04
is
43:04
called
43:04
scattering.
43:06
You
43:06
kind
43:06
of
43:06
scatter
43:07
books
43:07
around,
43:08
so
43:08
you
43:08
just
43:08
use
43:08
or
43:09
you
43:09
scatter
43:09
stuff
43:10
around
43:10
for
43:10
them
43:10
to
43:10
engage
43:11
with.
43:11
And
43:11
I
43:11
think
43:12
that
43:12
there's
43:12
two
43:12
things
43:13
with
43:13
reading.
43:13
I
43:14
think
43:14
the.
43:15
Firstly
43:15
is.
43:15
I
43:15
think
43:15
it's
43:16
really
43:16
good
43:16
to
43:16
model
43:16
it,
43:17
so
43:17
if
43:17
you
43:18
can
43:18
read,
43:18
read
43:19
yourself.
43:19
And
43:19
then.
43:20
Yeah,
43:20
it's
43:20
hard.
43:21
I
43:21
know.
43:21
It's
43:21
super
43:21
hard
43:21
when
43:22
you're
43:22
busy.
43:22
I
43:22
know.
43:23
I
43:23
do
43:23
know
43:23
that.
43:23
It's
43:23
really,
43:24
really
43:24
hard.
43:24
I
43:25
have
43:25
not
43:25
read
43:25
a
43:25
book
43:25
since
43:26
she
43:26
was
43:26
born,
43:26
which
43:27
is
43:27
horrendous.
43:30
It's
43:31
a
43:31
really
43:31
nice
43:31
discussion
43:32
to
43:32
have
43:32
with
43:32
her,
43:32
isn't
43:32
it?
43:33
To
43:33
say,
43:33
look,
43:33
you
43:33
know,
43:33
I
43:34
used
43:34
to
43:34
like
43:34
reading
43:34
and
43:34
I
43:35
haven't
43:35
done
43:35
much
43:35
reading.
43:35
Why
43:36
don't
43:36
we
43:36
both
43:36
go
43:36
to
43:36
the
43:37
library
43:37
together,
43:37
choose
43:38
a
43:38
book
43:38
we
43:38
really
43:39
like
43:39
the
43:39
look
43:39
of,
43:39
and
43:40
then
43:40
sit
43:40
in
43:40
the
43:40
library
43:41
with
43:41
a
43:41
cup
43:41
of
43:41
tea
43:41
and
43:41
do
43:42
some
43:42
reading.
43:42
Or,
43:43
you
43:43
know,
43:43
like,
43:43
after
43:43
I
43:44
put
43:44
the
43:44
baby
43:44
to
43:44
bed,
43:44
let's
43:45
sit
43:45
just
43:45
for
43:45
half
43:45
an
43:45
hour
43:45
together,
43:46
put
43:46
a
43:46
candle
43:46
on,
43:47
have
43:47
a
43:47
hot
43:47
drink
43:47
and
43:48
do
43:48
some
43:48
reading
43:48
and
43:48
make,
43:49
like
43:49
a
43:49
really
43:50
nice
43:50
thing.
43:50
So
43:50
I
43:50
think
43:51
modeling
43:51
and
43:51
scattering
43:52
are
43:52
really
43:52
good
43:53
when
43:53
it
43:53
comes
43:53
to
43:53
reading.
43:54
So,
43:54
like,
43:54
have
43:55
really
43:55
enticing
43:56
books
43:56
all
43:56
around.
43:57
My
43:57
daughter's
43:58
really
43:58
dyslexic
43:59
and
43:59
she
43:59
learned
43:59
to
44:00
read
44:00
quite,
44:01
quite
44:01
young
44:02
and
44:02
reasonably,
44:03
seamlessly
44:04
for
44:04
this,
44:04
for
44:04
somebody
44:05
with
44:05
dyslexia,
44:06
she
44:06
was,
44:06
what,
44:06
five?
44:07
I
44:07
think.
44:07
And
44:08
it
44:08
was
44:08
purely
44:08
because
44:09
I
44:09
just.
44:09
I
44:10
scattered
44:11
loads
44:11
of
44:11
Cressida
44:11
cowl,
44:12
like
44:12
how
44:12
to
44:13
train
44:13
your
44:13
dragon
44:13
books
44:13
around.
44:14
And
44:14
she
44:14
was
44:14
like,
44:14
read
44:14
to
44:14
me,
44:15
read
44:15
to
44:15
me.
44:15
And
44:15
I'm
44:15
like,
44:15
I
44:15
don't
44:16
have
44:16
time
44:16
to
44:16
read
44:16
to
44:16
you.
44:16
I
44:16
did,
44:17
but
44:17
I
44:17
wanted
44:18
her
44:18
to
44:18
read
44:18
for
44:18
herself.
44:19
And
44:19
so
44:19
she
44:20
just
44:20
started
44:20
out
44:20
of
44:21
sheer
44:21
frustration,
44:22
forcing
44:22
herself
44:22
to
44:23
read.
44:23
And
44:23
I
44:23
think
44:23
if
44:23
you
44:24
just
44:24
scatter
44:24
really
44:25
enticing
44:25
books
44:26
around,
44:26
that
44:27
helps.
44:28
Great.
44:28
Yeah.
44:28
Well,
44:29
my
44:29
son's
44:29
really
44:29
good
44:30
at
44:30
throwing
44:30
them
44:30
all
44:30
on
44:30
the
44:30
floor,
44:31
so
44:31
the.
44:31
Deck
44:32
he's
44:32
Your
44:33
scatterer.
44:33
Right,
44:35
yeah.
44:35
So
44:36
that's
44:36
a
44:36
good
44:36
idea.
44:37
I'll
44:37
do
44:37
more
44:37
of
44:37
that.
44:38
I
44:38
mean,
44:38
she
44:38
could
44:39
read
44:39
fine.
44:39
It's
44:40
one
44:40
thing
44:40
to
44:41
read,
44:41
but
44:42
yeah,
44:42
I
44:42
would
44:42
try
44:43
and
44:43
get
44:43
some
44:43
more
44:43
enticing
44:44
options
44:44
for
44:44
her.
44:44
That's
44:45
great.
44:46
Once
44:46
it's
44:46
once.
44:46
Reading
44:47
isn't
44:47
a
44:47
thing
44:48
that
44:48
she
44:48
has
44:48
to
44:49
do
44:49
for
44:49
a
44:49
certain
44:49
amount
44:50
of
44:50
time
44:50
at
44:50
a
44:51
school
44:51
or
44:51
a
44:51
certain
44:52
amount
44:52
of
44:52
pages.
44:53
You'll
44:53
probably
44:53
find
44:54
that
44:54
she
44:55
rediscovers
44:55
her
44:55
love
44:56
for
44:56
it.
44:56
Yeah.
44:57
Yeah,
44:57
I
44:57
hope
44:58
so.
44:58
Next
44:59
question,
45:00
next
45:00
question.
45:01
Would
45:02
you
45:03
recommend
45:04
at
45:04
this
45:04
age
45:05
getting
45:06
any
45:07
online
45:07
courses,
45:08
tutors,
45:09
Oak
45:09
Academy,
45:10
those
45:10
kind
45:11
of
45:11
things,
45:11
or
45:12
leave
45:12
that
45:13
to
45:13
later
45:13
or
45:14
avoid
45:14
it?
45:14
I'll
45:14
do.
45:16
Well,
45:16
that's
45:16
a
45:17
big
45:17
question.
45:17
I
45:18
mean,
45:18
it
45:18
really,
45:18
really
45:19
depends.
45:19
I
45:19
mean,
45:20
you
45:20
can
45:20
do
45:20
what
45:21
you
45:21
like,
45:21
you
45:21
know,
45:22
you
45:22
can
45:22
genuinely
45:22
do
45:23
what
45:23
you
45:23
like.
45:23
I'm
45:24
not
45:24
against
45:24
any
45:25
of
45:25
that
45:25
stuff.
45:25
Some
45:26
courses
45:26
are
45:26
better
45:26
than
45:27
others.
45:27
I
45:27
wouldn't
45:28
be
45:28
doing
45:28
anything
45:28
like
45:28
Oak
45:29
Academy,
45:29
really.
45:29
I
45:29
wouldn't
45:30
be
45:30
doing
45:30
anything
45:30
that
45:30
was
45:30
bit
45:31
schooly,
45:31
I
45:32
think
45:32
certainly
45:32
to
45:32
begin
45:33
with.
45:33
But
45:34
we
45:34
tried
45:34
all
45:34
sorts
45:35
of
45:35
things.
45:35
We
45:35
did
45:35
Kumon,
45:36
that
45:36
was
45:36
pretty
45:37
mixed
45:37
success.
45:37
We
45:38
did
45:39
some
45:39
Elearn
45:40
with
45:40
Amy,
45:40
who's
45:41
actually
45:41
been
45:41
on
45:41
the
45:41
podcast.
45:42
She,
45:43
she
45:43
does
45:43
beautiful
45:43
animal
45:44
courses.
45:44
If
45:44
your
45:44
daughter
45:45
likes
45:45
animals,
45:45
she's
45:46
got
45:46
amazing
45:46
animal
45:47
courses.
45:48
Two
45:48
very
45:48
different
45:48
things
45:49
you're
45:49
talking
45:49
about
45:49
there.
45:49
You
45:50
know,
45:50
you're
45:50
talking
45:50
about
45:50
something
45:51
that's
45:51
basically
45:51
like
45:51
school
45:52
by
45:52
video.
45:53
Then
45:53
you're
45:53
talking
45:54
about
45:54
something
45:54
that
45:54
is
45:54
like
45:55
a
45:55
really
45:55
engaging,
45:56
fun
45:56
young
45:57
lady
45:57
talking
45:57
about
45:58
animals.
45:58
I
45:58
mean,
45:58
it's
45:59
like
45:59
a
45:59
really
45:59
different
45:59
thing.
46:00
So
46:00
a
46:01
lot
46:01
of
46:01
it
46:01
will
46:01
depend
46:01
on
46:02
the
46:02
courses.
46:02
I
46:03
certainly
46:03
don't
46:03
think
46:03
you
46:04
need
46:04
to
46:04
get
46:04
a
46:04
tutor
46:04
as
46:05
of
46:05
yet.
46:05
I
46:05
don't
46:05
think
46:06
there's
46:06
any
46:06
need
46:06
for
46:06
that.
46:07
Like
46:07
that's
46:07
something
46:07
you
46:07
can
46:08
think
46:08
about
46:09
if
46:09
you
46:09
feel
46:09
that
46:09
there's
46:10
a
46:10
lack,
46:10
like
46:10
if
46:11
you
46:11
get
46:11
to
46:11
the
46:11
point.
46:12
And
46:12
again,
46:12
I'm
46:12
certainly
46:13
not
46:13
against
46:13
tutors.
46:13
My
46:14
son
46:14
had
46:14
a
46:14
math
46:15
tutor
46:15
round
46:15
about
46:16
that
46:16
age,
46:16
age
46:16
8,
46:17
because
46:17
he
46:17
was
46:18
very,
46:18
very,
46:18
very
46:19
good
46:19
at
46:19
maths
46:20
and
46:20
I
46:20
was
46:20
very,
46:20
very,
46:20
very
46:21
bad
46:21
at
46:21
it.
46:22
And
46:22
I
46:22
wanted
46:22
someone
46:23
who
46:23
could
46:23
really
46:23
engage
46:24
his
46:24
passion
46:24
for
46:25
maths
46:25
and
46:25
who
46:25
could
46:25
share
46:26
his
46:26
love
46:26
for
46:26
numbers.
46:27
So
46:27
I,
46:27
I
46:27
brought
46:28
that
46:28
in,
46:28
but
46:28
I
46:28
didn't,
46:29
I
46:29
would
46:29
never
46:29
have
46:29
gone
46:29
straight
46:30
into
46:30
that.
46:30
You
46:30
know,
46:31
obviously
46:31
we'd
46:31
home
46:31
educated
46:32
all
46:32
the
46:32
way
46:32
through.
46:32
So
46:33
I
46:33
think
46:33
that
46:34
anything
46:34
like
46:35
anything
46:35
expensive
46:36
or
46:36
regimented
46:37
or
46:38
commitment
46:39
y.
46:40
I
46:40
would
46:40
probably
46:41
just
46:41
press
46:41
pause
46:42
on
46:42
and
46:42
just
46:42
see
46:43
how
46:43
you
46:43
get
46:44
on,
46:44
see
46:44
what
46:45
she
46:45
likes,
46:45
see
46:46
what
46:46
the
46:46
gaps
46:46
are
46:47
and
46:47
then
46:48
You've
46:48
got
46:48
eons
46:49
of
46:49
time
46:50
to
46:50
work
46:50
through
46:50
this.
46:51
There's
46:51
no
46:51
pressure.
46:52
Okay,
46:53
that's
46:54
good
46:54
to
46:54
know.
46:56
In
46:56
terms
46:56
of
46:57
their
46:57
learning
46:57
types
46:58
and
46:58
you
46:58
say,
46:58
you
46:59
know,
46:59
working
46:59
out
46:59
what
46:59
kind
46:59
of
47:00
learning
47:01
type
47:01
they
47:01
have.
47:02
How
47:02
did
47:02
you
47:03
ask?
47:03
The
47:03
same
47:03
with
47:03
your
47:03
children.
47:04
What
47:04
was
47:04
their
47:05
learning
47:05
type
47:05
and
47:05
what
47:06
was
47:06
the
47:06
best
47:06
way
47:06
to
47:07
teach
47:07
them?
47:07
You
47:07
know,
47:07
whether
47:08
it
47:08
be
47:08
a
47:08
visual
47:08
learner
47:09
or
47:09
learning
47:09
by
47:10
doing,
47:10
etc.
47:12
I
47:12
don't
47:12
think
47:12
I
47:13
even
47:13
know
47:14
what
47:14
they
47:14
are.
47:15
I
47:15
really
47:15
don't.
47:16
I
47:16
mean,
47:17
do
47:17
I?
47:18
Maybe
47:18
if
47:18
I
47:18
thought
47:18
about
47:19
it.
47:19
I
47:19
just
47:19
never
47:20
had
47:20
to
47:20
think
47:20
about
47:20
it.
47:21
Like
47:21
when
47:21
I
47:21
was
47:21
teaching,
47:22
I
47:22
had
47:22
a
47:23
little
47:24
initial
47:25
that
47:25
I
47:25
put
47:25
next
47:25
to
47:25
all
47:26
the
47:26
pupils
47:26
names
47:26
V,
47:27
A
47:27
and
47:27
K
47:28
for
47:28
visual,
47:28
auditory
47:29
or
47:29
kinesthetic
47:30
learner.
47:30
I
47:31
didn't
47:31
really
47:31
care
47:31
then,
47:31
I
47:32
certainly
47:32
don't
47:32
care
47:32
now.
47:33
Like
47:33
it
47:33
just
47:33
doesn't
47:34
make
47:34
get
47:34
any
47:34
difference
47:35
at
47:35
all.
47:36
However,
47:37
your
47:37
children
47:38
will,
47:38
by
47:39
what
47:39
they
47:39
choose
47:39
to
47:39
interact
47:40
with
47:40
will
47:40
give
47:40
you
47:41
information
47:41
about
47:42
how
47:42
they
47:42
like
47:42
to
47:43
interact
47:43
with
47:43
their
47:43
learning.
47:44
If
47:44
they
47:45
like
47:45
to
47:46
write
47:46
a
47:47
lot
47:47
of
47:47
stuff
47:47
down.
47:49
My
47:49
son
47:49
always
47:49
liked
47:50
to
47:50
kind
47:50
of
47:50
write
47:50
stuff.
47:51
He
47:51
liked
47:52
workbooks
47:52
and
47:53
worksheets
47:53
and
47:53
like
47:54
given
47:55
a
47:55
choice,
47:55
a
47:55
plain
47:56
piece
47:56
of
47:56
white
47:57
paper
47:57
with
47:58
printed
47:58
questions
47:59
was
47:59
his
47:59
dream.
47:59
He
48:00
really
48:00
loved
48:00
that.
48:00
You
48:01
give
48:01
that
48:01
to
48:01
my
48:01
daughter,
48:01
she
48:02
would
48:02
throw
48:02
it
48:02
on
48:02
the
48:03
floor
48:03
and
48:03
be
48:03
like,
48:03
that's
48:04
boring.
48:04
Where's
48:04
the
48:05
app
48:05
that
48:05
that
48:06
has
48:06
this
48:06
learning
48:06
in
48:07
it,
48:07
right?
48:07
So
48:07
it's
48:08
a
48:08
really,
48:08
really
48:09
different
48:09
thing.
48:09
You'll
48:10
know
48:10
by
48:10
how
48:11
they
48:11
choose
48:12
to
48:12
interact
48:12
with
48:13
their
48:13
learning.
48:13
What
48:13
I
48:14
would
48:14
do
48:14
is
48:14
give
48:14
them
48:15
millions
48:16
of
48:16
options
48:17
for
48:17
routes
48:17
into
48:18
the
48:18
learning.
48:18
So
48:18
if
48:19
firstly,
48:19
I
48:20
would
48:20
very
48:20
slightly
48:21
question
48:22
the
48:22
use
48:22
of
48:22
the
48:22
word
48:22
teaching
48:23
because
48:23
you're
48:23
not
48:24
really
48:24
teaching,
48:24
you're
48:25
really
48:25
just
48:25
opening
48:26
up
48:26
her,
48:27
you're
48:27
inviting
48:27
her
48:28
into
48:28
a
48:28
topic.
48:29
So
48:29
say
48:29
for
48:29
example,
48:30
you
48:30
wanted
48:30
to
48:30
do
48:31
Ancient
48:32
Greece,
48:32
right,
48:33
As
48:33
a
48:33
topic.
48:34
So
48:34
you're
48:34
not
48:34
going
48:35
to
48:35
teach
48:35
her
48:35
ancient
48:36
Greece.
48:37
What
48:37
you're
48:37
going
48:37
to
48:37
do
48:37
is
48:38
you're
48:38
going
48:38
to
48:38
have
48:39
maybe
48:39
a
48:39
book
48:40
that
48:40
you
48:40
got
48:40
from
48:40
the
48:40
library
48:41
about
48:41
it.
48:41
You
48:41
maybe
48:42
have
48:42
Percy
48:42
Jackson
48:43
that
48:43
you're
48:43
going
48:43
to
48:43
be
48:44
having
48:44
on
48:44
an
48:44
audiobook.
48:45
You're
48:46
maybe
48:46
going
48:46
to
48:47
have
48:48
a
48:48
documentary
48:49
you
48:49
found
48:49
about
48:49
ancient
48:50
Greece.
48:50
You
48:51
may
48:51
be
48:51
going
48:51
to
48:51
have
48:51
like
48:52
a
48:52
twinkl
48:52
worksheet
48:53
that
48:53
you
48:53
printed
48:53
off
48:54
about
48:54
ancient
48:54
Greece,
48:55
like
48:56
a
48:56
reading
48:56
comprehension.
48:57
You're
48:57
maybe
48:58
going
48:58
to
48:58
have
48:59
lots
48:59
of
49:00
toilet
49:00
rolls
49:00
and
49:01
Sellotape
49:02
and
49:02
you're
49:02
going
49:02
to
49:02
make
49:02
the
49:03
Acropolis
49:04
wait,
49:04
the
49:04
Parthenon
49:05
or
49:05
something,
49:05
right?
49:06
So
49:06
you
49:06
will
49:07
get
49:07
a
49:07
sense
49:07
of
49:08
which
49:08
is
49:08
the
49:08
one
49:08
that
49:09
she
49:09
really
49:09
likes.
49:09
So
49:10
which
49:10
is
49:10
the
49:10
one
49:10
that
49:10
she
49:10
spent
49:11
her
49:11
time
49:11
on,
49:11
which
49:11
is
49:11
the
49:12
one
49:12
that
49:12
when
49:13
at
49:13
the
49:13
end
49:13
of
49:13
the
49:14
topic
49:14
and
49:15
her
49:15
granny
49:16
is
49:16
saying,
49:16
oh,
49:16
like
49:16
what
49:17
did
49:17
you
49:17
learn
49:17
about
49:17
ancient
49:18
Greece?
49:18
And
49:18
that
49:18
sounds
49:19
cool.
49:19
And
49:19
she's
49:20
like
49:20
this,
49:20
this,
49:20
this
49:20
isn't
49:21
this.
49:21
And
49:22
you
49:22
think,
49:22
oh,
49:22
well,
49:22
all
49:23
of
49:23
that
49:23
came
49:23
from
49:23
the
49:23
toilet
49:24
roll
49:24
kind
49:24
of
49:25
Parthenon
49:25
or
49:26
all
49:26
of
49:26
it
49:26
came
49:26
from
49:26
that
49:27
Twinkl
49:27
worksheet.
49:28
You'll
49:29
get
49:29
a
49:29
sense
49:29
of
49:29
what
49:30
she's
49:30
absorbed.
49:30
Was
49:31
it
49:31
from
49:31
the
49:31
documentary?
49:32
Was
49:32
it
49:32
from
49:32
the
49:33
crafty
49:33
stuff?
49:33
And
49:34
you
49:34
will
49:34
get
49:35
that
49:35
kind
49:35
of
49:35
sense.
49:35
But
49:36
just
49:36
open
49:36
up
49:36
all
49:36
those
49:37
opportunities
49:37
for
49:38
her
49:38
to
49:38
engage
49:38
with
49:38
it.
49:39
We'll
49:39
try.
49:39
Rather
49:40
than.
49:40
This
49:40
is
49:40
your
49:40
book
49:40
for
49:41
this.
49:41
Lots
49:42
of
49:42
options
49:42
for
49:42
learning.
49:43
Yeah.
49:43
And
49:44
it's
49:44
more
49:44
fun
49:44
for
49:44
you
49:44
and
49:45
it's
49:45
more
49:45
varied
49:45
for
49:45
her.
49:46
Yeah,
49:46
yeah,
49:47
definitely.
49:47
I
49:48
should
49:48
go
49:48
to
49:48
schools
49:48
and
49:48
be
49:49
an
49:49
education
49:49
consultant.
49:51
That's
49:51
a
49:51
niche.
49:53
Okay,
49:54
next
49:54
question.
49:55
Okay,
49:55
so
49:56
my
49:56
next
49:56
question
49:57
is
49:58
I
49:58
understand
49:58
that
49:59
a
49:59
lot
49:59
of
49:59
people
49:59
when
50:00
they're
50:00
busy
50:00
or
50:00
they're
50:01
working
50:01
from
50:02
home,
50:02
they
50:02
will
50:02
put
50:03
their
50:03
child
50:03
in
50:03
front
50:03
of
50:04
a
50:04
screen
50:04
for
50:05
whatever
50:05
sort
50:06
of
50:06
learning.
50:06
Watching
50:07
documentary,
50:08
watching
50:08
tv,
50:09
whatever.
50:10
I
50:10
find
50:11
with
50:11
my
50:11
daughter
50:12
that
50:12
that's
50:12
not
50:13
ideal
50:13
for
50:13
her.
50:14
So
50:14
we
50:14
have
50:15
limited
50:15
her
50:15
to.
50:16
She
50:16
just
50:16
has
50:16
an
50:16
hour
50:17
a
50:17
day
50:17
of
50:17
TV
50:19
for
50:19
the
50:19
reason
50:20
that
50:20
she
50:20
gets
50:21
quite
50:21
addictive
50:22
to.
50:22
To
50:23
anything
50:24
screen
50:24
based.
50:25
She
50:26
has
50:26
a
50:27
thing,
50:27
I
50:27
think
50:27
it's
50:27
called
50:28
times
50:28
table
50:29
Rock
50:29
stars
50:29
that
50:29
school
50:30
giver.
50:30
And
50:30
she
50:31
was
50:31
initially
50:32
doing
50:32
that,
50:32
you
50:33
know,
50:33
on
50:33
a.
50:33
On
50:33
the
50:34
phone
50:34
and
50:34
she
50:34
would.
50:35
But
50:35
she
50:35
would
50:36
literally
50:36
wake
50:36
up
50:36
in
50:36
the
50:36
morning.
50:37
First
50:37
question
50:37
was
50:37
can
50:37
I
50:37
go
50:38
on
50:38
TT
50:38
Rock
50:38
stars.
50:39
And
50:39
all
50:40
through
50:40
the
50:40
day,
50:40
can
50:41
I
50:41
go
50:41
on
50:41
it?
50:41
Can
50:41
I
50:41
go
50:41
on
50:41
it?
50:42
And
50:42
we
50:42
just
50:42
found
50:43
that
50:43
it
50:44
wasn't
50:44
so
50:44
much
50:45
about.
50:45
She
50:45
didn't
50:45
love
50:46
to
50:46
learn
50:47
a
50:47
time
50:47
stables.
50:48
She
50:48
would
50:48
put
50:49
it
50:49
on
50:49
the
50:49
easiest
50:49
one.
50:49
It
50:50
was
50:50
just,
50:50
it
50:50
was
50:51
just
50:51
about
50:51
getting
50:52
the
50:52
coins
50:52
and,
50:53
and
50:53
the
50:53
coins
50:53
meaning
50:54
that
50:54
you
50:54
could
50:54
buy
50:55
whatever
50:55
virtual
50:56
clothes
50:56
for
50:57
your
50:57
character
50:58
and
50:58
it
50:58
was
50:59
all
50:59
about
50:59
that
50:59
and
51:00
rather
51:01
than
51:01
any
51:02
learning
51:02
through
51:03
it
51:03
and
51:03
it
51:03
just
51:03
became
51:04
all
51:04
consuming
51:05
so
51:05
we
51:05
kind
51:05
of
51:06
stopped
51:06
it.
51:06
But
51:07
how
51:07
do
51:08
you
51:09
navigate
51:10
all
51:11
the
51:11
options
51:11
online
51:12
so
51:12
the
51:12
screen
51:13
use
51:13
doesn't
51:13
get
51:14
overused,
51:14
shall
51:15
we
51:15
say?
51:16
Again,
51:16
that
51:16
is
51:16
such,
51:18
such
51:18
an
51:18
individual
51:19
topic
51:20
that
51:20
you
51:20
as
51:20
a
51:20
family
51:21
have
51:21
to
51:21
decide
51:22
on.
51:22
I
51:23
know
51:23
that
51:23
there
51:23
are
51:23
many
51:24
families
51:24
that
51:24
don't
51:24
have
51:25
any
51:25
limits
51:25
on
51:25
their
51:26
tech
51:26
use
51:26
or
51:27
screen
51:27
use
51:27
and
51:28
that
51:28
works
51:28
for
51:28
them.
51:29
Other
51:29
families
51:29
have
51:30
super
51:30
lockdown
51:31
screen
51:32
use
51:32
and
51:32
that
51:33
works
51:33
for
51:33
them.
51:34
Now,
51:34
I
51:34
was
51:34
a
51:35
little
51:35
bit
51:35
similar
51:35
to
51:36
you.
51:37
My
51:37
children
51:37
had
51:37
a
51:38
really
51:38
similar
51:38
experience
51:38
with
51:39
something
51:39
called
51:39
Prodigy
51:39
Maths,
51:40
where
51:41
I
51:41
sat
51:41
with
51:41
them
51:42
one
51:42
time.
51:42
They
51:42
loved
51:42
doing
51:43
it
51:43
and
51:43
I
51:43
thought,
51:43
oh,
51:43
great,
51:44
they're
51:44
doing
51:44
maths.
51:44
How
51:44
wonderful.
51:45
They
51:45
sit
51:45
for
51:45
hours
51:45
doing
51:46
maths.
51:46
And
51:46
I
51:46
sat
51:46
there
51:47
with
51:47
my
51:48
son
51:48
for
51:48
one
51:48
hour,
51:49
and
51:49
he
51:49
did
51:50
two
51:50
really
51:50
simple
51:51
math
51:51
questions
51:52
in
51:52
the
51:52
whole
51:52
hour.
51:52
And
51:52
the
51:53
rest
51:53
of
51:53
it
51:53
was
51:53
like
51:54
little
51:54
battles
51:55
and
51:55
avatars
51:56
and
51:56
all
51:56
that
51:56
stuff.
51:57
And
51:57
I
51:57
thought,
51:57
well,
51:57
this
51:57
is
51:57
such
51:58
a.
51:58
Like
51:58
a
51:58
waste
51:59
of
51:59
time
51:59
when
52:00
he
52:00
could
52:00
have
52:00
just
52:00
done
52:00
those
52:01
two
52:01
questions
52:01
in
52:01
two
52:02
minutes
52:02
on
52:02
a
52:02
piece
52:02
of
52:03
paper.
52:03
But
52:04
other
52:04
parents
52:04
would
52:04
think,
52:05
no,
52:05
that's
52:05
fine,
52:05
because
52:06
he's
52:06
happy,
52:06
he's
52:07
engaged,
52:07
it's
52:08
not
52:08
doing
52:08
him
52:08
any
52:08
harm,
52:09
and
52:09
he's
52:09
doing
52:09
a
52:09
little
52:10
bit
52:10
of
52:10
maths
52:10
as
52:10
well.
52:11
Personally,
52:11
I
52:11
found
52:12
that
52:12
screen
52:12
use
52:12
took
52:12
away
52:13
from
52:13
our
52:13
time,
52:14
and
52:14
I.
52:15
Our
52:15
time
52:15
was
52:15
precious
52:16
and
52:16
still
52:16
is.
52:17
And
52:17
so
52:18
I
52:18
limited
52:18
screen
52:19
use
52:19
just
52:19
because
52:20
it
52:20
limited
52:21
the
52:21
time
52:21
that
52:21
we
52:22
had
52:22
to
52:22
do
52:22
other
52:22
things.
52:23
But
52:24
that
52:24
wasn't
52:25
to
52:25
say
52:25
that
52:26
there
52:26
wasn't
52:27
screen
52:27
use
52:27
there.
52:28
But
52:28
it's
52:28
different,
52:29
isn't
52:29
it?
52:29
In
52:30
actual
52:30
fact,
52:31
as
52:31
part
52:31
of
52:31
my
52:31
masters,
52:32
I
52:32
did.
52:34
I
52:34
studied
52:35
social
52:35
media
52:36
use
52:36
and
52:36
loneliness.
52:37
That
52:37
was
52:37
what
52:37
my
52:37
thesis
52:38
was
52:38
on.
52:39
And
52:39
what
52:39
came
52:39
through
52:40
very
52:40
clearly
52:40
was
52:41
that
52:42
there's
52:42
no
52:42
such
52:42
thing
52:43
as
52:43
just
52:43
a
52:44
screen
52:44
being
52:45
a
52:45
good
52:45
thing
52:45
or
52:45
a
52:45
bad
52:46
thing,
52:46
because
52:46
it's
52:47
all
52:47
sorts
52:47
of
52:47
different
52:47
things
52:48
that
52:48
you're
52:48
engaging
52:48
with.
52:49
If
52:49
you're
52:49
on
52:49
WhatsApp,
52:50
chatting
52:50
with
52:50
somebody,
52:51
it's
52:51
very
52:51
different
52:51
to
52:51
doom
52:52
scrolling
52:52
on
52:52
Facebook,
52:53
which
52:53
is
52:53
very
52:53
different
52:53
to
52:54
watching
52:54
a
52:54
YouTube
52:54
video,
52:55
which
52:55
is
52:56
very
52:56
different
52:56
to
52:57
responding
52:57
in
52:58
a
52:58
Facebook
52:58
group.
52:59
These
52:59
are
52:59
all
53:00
very,
53:00
very
53:00
different
53:00
interactions.
53:02
And
53:02
we
53:02
as
53:02
adults
53:03
recognize
53:03
that.
53:04
We
53:04
recognize
53:04
that,
53:05
you
53:05
know,
53:05
if
53:05
you're
53:06
like
53:06
this
53:06
now,
53:07
me
53:07
and
53:07
you
53:07
on
53:07
Zoom
53:08
is
53:08
not
53:08
the
53:08
same
53:08
as
53:08
me
53:09
going
53:09
on
53:09
Instagram.
53:10
Even
53:10
though
53:11
it's
53:11
the
53:11
same
53:11
medium,
53:11
it's
53:12
completely
53:12
different.
53:12
And
53:12
it's
53:13
exactly
53:13
the
53:13
same
53:13
with
53:13
children.
53:14
If
53:14
you
53:14
sit
53:15
with
53:15
them
53:15
and
53:15
you're
53:16
watching
53:16
a
53:16
David
53:17
Attenborough
53:17
documentary
53:18
and
53:18
you've
53:19
maybe
53:19
done
53:19
a
53:19
little
53:20
worksheet
53:20
where
53:21
you
53:21
pause
53:21
the
53:21
video
53:22
quarter
53:22
of
53:23
an
53:23
hour
53:23
in
53:23
because
53:23
you
53:23
pre
53:24
watched
53:24
it
53:24
and
53:24
done
53:25
your
53:25
little
53:25
worksheet
53:25
and
53:26
you're
53:26
like,
53:26
can
53:26
you
53:27
fill
53:27
in
53:27
what
53:28
type
53:28
of
53:28
whale
53:28
has
53:29
the
53:29
mesh
53:30
mouth?
53:30
And
53:30
they
53:30
write
53:31
baleen
53:31
in.
53:32
Now,
53:32
that's
53:32
a
53:33
really
53:33
different
53:33
experience
53:34
to
53:34
giving
53:34
them
53:34
an
53:35
iPad
53:35
for
53:35
40
53:36
minutes
53:36
because
53:36
you
53:36
want
53:37
a
53:37
bit
53:37
of
53:37
peace
53:37
and
53:37
quiet.
53:38
I'm
53:38
not
53:38
saying
53:38
that's
53:39
a
53:39
bad
53:39
thing.
53:39
I
53:40
was
53:40
a
53:40
big
53:40
fan
53:41
of
53:41
CBeebies
53:41
when
53:42
my
53:42
two
53:42
were
53:42
little
53:42
because
53:43
they're
53:43
very
53:43
close
53:43
in
53:43
age
53:44
and
53:44
I
53:44
needed
53:45
a
53:45
Really
53:45
a
53:46
really
53:46
slow
53:46
run
53:46
up
53:46
to
53:47
my
53:47
day.
53:47
I
53:47
needed
53:47
a
53:47
bit
53:48
of
53:48
peace
53:48
and
53:48
quiet
53:48
with
53:48
a
53:48
cup
53:49
of
53:49
tea.
53:49
I
53:49
sat
53:49
them
53:50
down
53:50
and
53:50
watched.
53:50
They
53:50
watched
53:51
CBeebies
53:51
in
53:51
the
53:51
morning
53:52
for
53:52
like
53:52
an
53:52
hour
53:52
or
53:53
something
53:53
because
53:53
I
53:53
needed
53:54
that.
53:54
So
53:54
there's
53:54
nothing
53:55
wrong
53:55
with
53:55
that.
53:56
You
53:56
as
53:56
a
53:56
family
53:56
need
53:57
to
53:57
understand
53:58
where
53:58
your
53:58
values
53:59
are
53:59
being
53:59
conflicted
54:00
with
54:00
screen
54:00
use
54:00
or
54:01
if
54:01
they
54:01
are
54:01
being
54:01
conflicted
54:02
with
54:02
screen
54:02
use
54:03
and
54:03
then
54:03
just
54:04
have
54:04
a
54:04
balance
54:04
that
54:05
works
54:05
for
54:05
both
54:05
of
54:05
you.
54:06
I
54:06
know
54:06
what
54:06
you
54:06
mean
54:06
about
54:07
when
54:07
they
54:07
get
54:08
very
54:08
into
54:08
it
54:09
and
54:09
like
54:09
the
54:09
first
54:09
thing
54:10
they
54:10
want
54:10
to
54:10
know
54:10
is
54:11
when
54:11
they're
54:11
next
54:11
going
54:11
to
54:12
be
54:12
doing
54:12
that
54:12
thing
54:12
on
54:12
a
54:13
screen.
54:13
That
54:13
always
54:13
raises
54:14
big
54:14
alarm
54:14
bells
54:15
for
54:15
me
54:15
as
54:15
well.
54:16
But
54:17
you,
54:17
you
54:17
will
54:17
find
54:18
there's
54:18
no
54:18
reason
54:18
to
54:19
think
54:19
that
54:19
just
54:19
because
54:19
you're
54:19
home
54:19
educating
54:20
that's
54:20
going
54:20
to
54:20
get
54:21
out
54:21
of
54:21
control.
54:22
No,
54:22
no.
54:22
I
54:23
guess
54:23
I
54:23
was
54:23
just
54:23
looking
54:24
to
54:24
see
54:24
if
54:24
there
54:24
was
54:25
any
54:25
apps
54:26
and
54:26
things
54:26
that
54:27
were.
54:27
Obviously
54:28
you
54:28
want
54:28
them
54:28
to
54:28
be
54:28
fun,
54:29
but
54:29
not
54:30
just
54:30
about
54:31
getting
54:31
the
54:32
avatar
54:32
to
54:32
be
54:32
the
54:32
next,
54:33
the
54:33
next
54:33
greatest
54:34
thing.
54:35
There
54:35
are
54:35
some
54:35
really
54:36
good
54:36
learning
54:36
apps.
54:37
Now
54:37
I'm
54:38
a
54:38
little
54:38
bit
54:38
out
54:38
of
54:38
date
54:39
with
54:39
mine,
54:40
but
54:41
there
54:41
are
54:41
some
54:42
very
54:42
nice
54:42
learning
54:43
apps
54:43
that
54:44
are
54:44
much
54:44
more
54:45
gentle
54:46
learning
54:46
style
54:47
and
54:47
much
54:47
less
54:48
sensorily
54:49
overloady
54:51
and
54:51
that
54:51
really
54:51
is
54:52
just
54:52
a
54:52
case
54:52
of
54:52
trying
54:53
them
54:53
out
54:53
and
54:53
seeing
54:53
what
54:54
works
54:54
for
54:54
you.
54:54
In
54:54
my
54:55
experience,
54:55
the
54:56
best
54:56
screen
54:57
use
54:57
is
54:58
the
54:58
one
54:58
that
54:58
is
54:59
integrated
55:00
into
55:00
time
55:01
with
55:01
each
55:01
other.
55:02
So
55:02
my
55:03
daughter,
55:04
who
55:04
as
55:04
I
55:05
say,
55:05
she's
55:05
dyslexic
55:06
so
55:06
she
55:06
struggled
55:07
with
55:07
her
55:07
spelling
55:07
a
55:07
little
55:08
bit
55:08
to
55:08
begin
55:08
with.
55:09
We
55:09
used
55:09
to
55:09
sit
55:09
and
55:10
do
55:10
this
55:10
anagram
55:11
app
55:11
called
55:11
letterquest
55:13
which
55:13
was
55:13
almost
55:14
like
55:14
a
55:14
kind
55:14
of
55:15
hangman
55:16
style
55:16
thing
55:16
where
55:16
you
55:16
had
55:16
to
55:16
guess
55:17
the
55:17
letters.
55:17
But
55:17
we
55:17
would
55:17
sit
55:18
and
55:18
do
55:18
it
55:18
together
55:18
because
55:18
I
55:19
knew
55:19
what
55:19
the
55:19
word
55:19
was
55:19
and
55:20
then
55:20
I
55:20
would
55:21
say,
55:21
okay,
55:21
how
55:21
do
55:21
you
55:22
spell
55:22
whatever
55:22
the
55:22
word
55:23
was?
55:23
And
55:23
then
55:23
she
55:23
would
55:23
pick
55:24
from
55:24
the
55:24
pre
55:25
existing
55:25
letters
55:26
underneath.
55:26
It
55:26
was
55:26
a
55:26
really
55:27
good
55:27
way
55:27
of
55:27
her
55:27
guessing
55:28
the
55:28
spelling
55:28
because
55:28
she
55:29
had
55:29
certain
55:29
letters
55:30
to
55:30
choose
55:30
from.
55:31
And
55:31
so
55:32
it
55:32
was
55:32
a
55:32
very
55:32
collaborative
55:33
screen
55:33
experience
55:35
and
55:35
the
55:36
same
55:36
thing.
55:36
We
55:37
did
55:37
a
55:37
couple
55:37
of
55:38
courses
55:38
and
55:39
things
55:39
that
55:39
were
55:39
online
55:40
and
55:40
I
55:41
would
55:41
sit
55:41
with
55:41
them.
55:41
I
55:42
always
55:42
sat
55:42
with
55:42
them
55:43
during
55:43
their
55:43
screen
55:43
time.
55:44
It
55:44
was
55:44
rare.
55:45
Maybe
55:46
some
55:46
like
55:46
Tokaboka
55:47
games
55:47
and
55:47
stuff
55:48
where
55:48
I
55:48
knew
55:48
that
55:48
it
55:48
was
55:48
safe
55:49
and
55:49
they
55:49
were
55:49
just
55:49
playing
55:49
for
55:49
10
55:50
minutes
55:50
while
55:50
I
55:50
made
55:50
the
55:50
lunch.
55:51
But
55:51
generally
55:52
I
55:52
think
55:52
collaborative
55:53
screen
55:53
time
55:54
might,
55:54
might
55:54
just
55:55
feel
55:55
a
55:55
better
55:55
fit.
55:56
That's
55:56
good
55:56
to
55:57
know.
55:57
It's
55:57
very
55:57
much
55:58
up
55:58
to
55:58
you
55:58
as
55:58
a
55:58
family.
55:58
I
55:59
know
55:59
I
55:59
keep
55:59
saying
55:59
that,
55:59
but.
56:00
No,
56:00
I
56:00
know
56:00
it's
56:01
difficult
56:01
to
56:02
answer
56:02
these
56:02
questions.
56:02
I
56:03
know
56:03
a
56:03
lot
56:03
of
56:03
it
56:04
is
56:04
personal
56:05
to
56:06
everybody
56:06
thinks
56:07
about
56:07
screens
56:08
and
56:08
other
56:09
things.
56:09
Yeah.
56:09
Also
56:10
I'm
56:10
really
56:11
aware
56:11
that
56:11
anyone
56:12
listening,
56:12
I
56:12
don't
56:12
want
56:12
them
56:12
to
56:13
feel
56:13
that
56:13
they're
56:14
doing
56:14
it
56:14
wrong,
56:15
you
56:15
know,
56:15
because
56:15
there
56:15
is
56:16
no
56:16
doing
56:16
it
56:16
wrong.
56:17
Just
56:17
because
56:17
I
56:17
do
56:17
it
56:18
one
56:18
way,
56:18
you
56:18
might
56:18
do
56:18
it
56:19
another
56:19
way.
56:19
And
56:19
they're.
56:20
Their
56:20
child
56:20
is
56:21
sitting
56:21
on
56:21
an
56:21
iPad
56:21
for
56:22
seven
56:22
hours
56:22
a
56:22
day.
56:22
That's
56:23
not
56:23
wrong.
56:23
There's
56:23
nothing
56:24
wrong
56:24
there.
56:24
It's
56:25
just
56:25
whatever
56:26
works
56:26
for
56:26
you
56:26
and
56:26
your
56:27
circumstances
56:27
and
56:27
your
56:28
child.
56:28
Some
56:28
children
56:29
need
56:29
that
56:29
kind
56:29
of
56:29
stimulation
56:30
to
56:30
actually
56:31
relax
56:31
their
56:32
brain.
56:32
Yeah,
56:33
absolutely.
56:33
I
56:33
mean
56:34
she
56:34
has
56:34
friends
56:35
that
56:35
have
56:35
much
56:36
more
56:36
screen
56:36
use
56:37
and
56:37
they're,
56:37
they're
56:37
fine
56:37
with
56:38
it.
56:38
But
56:38
she
56:38
really.
56:39
Behavior
56:39
change
56:40
is,
56:40
you
56:40
know,
56:40
she
56:40
just,
56:41
she's
56:41
not
56:42
her.
56:42
If
56:42
she
56:42
has
56:43
too
56:43
much
56:43
time
56:43
on
56:43
her.
56:44
Yeah.
56:44
My
56:45
son,
56:45
my
56:45
son
56:45
was
56:46
exactly
56:46
the
56:46
same
56:47
and
56:48
now
56:48
he's
56:49
what,
56:49
19?
56:50
And
56:51
he
56:51
has
56:51
a
56:52
phone
56:52
that
56:52
he
56:52
almost
56:52
never
56:53
goes
56:53
on.
56:53
He
56:53
doesn't,
56:54
he
56:54
doesn't
56:54
really
56:54
use
56:55
screens
56:55
because
56:55
it
56:55
just
56:56
isn't
56:56
his
56:56
thing.
56:57
And
56:57
some
56:57
children,
56:58
it's
56:58
just
56:58
not,
56:58
not.
56:59
Doesn't
56:59
suit
56:59
them.
57:00
No.
57:01
One
57:01
more
57:01
thing
57:01
was
57:02
just
57:02
I
57:03
don't
57:03
understand
57:03
that
57:04
your
57:04
children
57:04
are
57:05
close
57:05
in
57:05
age,
57:06
which
57:06
must
57:07
help
57:07
in
57:07
some
57:07
regards.
57:08
Mine
57:08
are
57:09
not
57:09
really.
57:09
I've
57:09
got
57:09
1,
57:10
4
57:10
and
57:11
8,
57:12
so
57:13
I'm
57:13
not
57:13
home
57:14
educating
57:14
them
57:14
all
57:15
obviously
57:15
at
57:15
the
57:16
moment,
57:16
but
57:16
as
57:17
time
57:17
goes
57:18
on,
57:19
I'm
57:19
just
57:19
wondering,
57:20
you
57:20
know,
57:20
do
57:20
you
57:20
kind
57:21
of
57:21
find
57:22
that
57:22
people
57:22
would
57:23
split
57:23
their
57:23
time
57:24
between,
57:24
you
57:24
know,
57:24
I'll
57:24
do
57:25
a
57:25
bit
57:25
with
57:25
you,
57:25
a
57:25
bit
57:25
with
57:25
you,
57:26
or
57:27
find
57:27
things
57:28
that
57:28
they
57:28
can
57:28
all
57:29
do
57:29
kind
57:29
of
57:29
collaboratively
57:30
but
57:31
at
57:31
different
57:31
levels
57:32
for
57:32
each
57:32
other.
57:33
It's
57:33
just
57:33
a
57:33
lot
57:33
of
57:34
groups
57:34
and
57:34
things
57:34
that
57:34
I've
57:35
seen
57:35
are
57:35
kind
57:35
of
57:35
set
57:36
ages.
57:37
So,
57:37
you
57:37
know,
57:37
you
57:37
can
57:38
go
57:38
to
57:38
this
57:38
group
57:39
from
57:39
7
57:39
to
57:39
11,
57:40
but
57:40
obviously
57:41
then
57:41
my
57:41
younger
57:41
two
57:42
couldn't
57:42
join
57:43
in
57:43
and
57:44
those
57:44
kind
57:44
of
57:44
things.
57:45
Do
57:45
you
57:45
find
57:45
that's
57:46
an
57:46
issue?
57:46
That's
57:47
interesting.
57:48
As
57:48
you
57:48
say,
57:48
my
57:49
two
57:49
were
57:49
close
57:49
in
57:49
age,
57:49
so
57:50
I
57:50
never
57:50
really
57:50
encountered
57:51
that.
57:51
But
57:51
from
57:52
my
57:52
experience
57:53
of
57:53
home
57:53
educating
57:54
groups,
57:55
they
57:55
quite
57:56
often
57:56
will
57:56
let
57:56
you
57:56
come
57:57
with
57:57
your
57:57
younger
57:58
child
57:58
if
57:58
you're
57:59
sort
57:59
of
57:59
sitting
57:59
with
57:59
your
58:00
younger
58:00
child.
58:01
Quite
58:01
a
58:01
lot
58:01
of
58:01
things
58:02
are
58:02
now
58:02
starting
58:02
up
58:02
where
58:03
they
58:03
have
58:03
provision
58:03
for
58:04
different
58:04
ages
58:04
in
58:05
one
58:05
building
58:06
because
58:06
there's
58:06
an
58:07
awareness
58:07
now
58:07
of
58:08
that.
58:08
I
58:08
suppose
58:09
what
58:09
you're
58:09
talking
58:09
about
58:09
is
58:10
that
58:10
you
58:10
might
58:10
have
58:11
like
58:11
3
58:11
year
58:12
old
58:12
in
58:12
3
58:13
years
58:13
with
58:13
your
58:14
middle
58:14
child
58:14
at
58:14
school.
58:15
Is
58:16
that
58:16
what
58:16
you're
58:16
thinking?
58:16
And
58:17
Then
58:17
you
58:17
got,
58:18
you'll
58:18
have
58:18
an
58:18
11
58:18
year
58:19
old
58:19
and
58:19
you're
58:19
worried
58:19
that
58:20
there's
58:20
just
58:20
very
58:21
different
58:21
ages.
58:22
Well,
58:22
my
58:22
plan
58:23
is
58:23
that
58:23
they
58:23
will
58:23
all
58:24
be
58:24
coming
58:24
out
58:25
of
58:25
school.
58:26
I
58:26
see.
58:26
So
58:26
you'll
58:26
be
58:26
home
58:27
educating
58:27
all
58:27
of
58:27
them.
58:28
Well,
58:28
this
58:29
is
58:29
another
58:29
question
58:30
that's
58:30
kind
58:30
of
58:31
coming
58:31
to
58:31
it
58:31
but
58:32
I
58:33
guess
58:33
I
58:33
want
58:33
it
58:33
to
58:33
be
58:34
personal
58:34
journey
58:35
for
58:35
them
58:35
all.
58:35
So
58:36
Lucy,
58:36
my
58:36
eldest
58:38
wants
58:38
to
58:38
come
58:38
out.
58:39
We
58:39
will
58:39
do
58:39
that
58:39
for
58:40
her.
58:40
Lily,
58:41
it's
58:42
just
58:42
started.
58:42
Reception
58:43
at
58:43
the
58:43
moment
58:43
is
58:44
enjoying
58:44
it
58:44
part
58:44
time
58:45
but
58:45
I
58:45
envisage
58:46
that
58:46
will
58:46
change
58:47
as,
58:47
as
58:48
it
58:48
moves
58:48
away
58:48
from
58:48
play
58:49
based
58:49
learning
58:49
thing.
58:50
I
58:50
feel
58:51
that
58:51
it
58:51
would
58:51
be
58:52
unfair
58:53
to
58:53
home
58:53
educate
58:54
one
58:54
and
58:54
not
58:54
all
58:55
I
58:56
can
58:56
imagine
58:56
later
58:56
in
58:57
life.
58:57
Well
58:57
why
58:57
did
58:57
she
58:58
get
58:58
to
58:58
be
58:58
home
58:58
educated
58:59
in
58:59
our
58:59
state
58:59
school?
59:00
You
59:01
know
59:01
it's
59:01
interesting
59:02
isn't
59:02
it
59:02
because
59:02
I
59:03
know
59:03
some
59:03
parents
59:03
who
59:04
do
59:04
do
59:04
that
59:04
who
59:05
just
59:05
home
59:05
educate
59:06
one
59:06
and
59:06
I
59:06
know
59:07
other
59:07
parents
59:07
that
59:07
started
59:08
with
59:08
one
59:08
and
59:08
then
59:09
they
59:09
pulled
59:09
everybody
59:10
out.
59:10
I'm
59:11
going
59:11
to
59:11
be
59:11
really
59:11
annoying
59:12
and
59:12
teachery
59:13
and
59:13
I'm,
59:14
and
59:14
I'm
59:14
going
59:14
to
59:15
say
59:15
that
59:15
fairness
59:15
is
59:16
not
59:16
doing
59:16
the
59:16
same
59:16
thing
59:17
for
59:17
everybody.
59:17
Fairness
59:18
is
59:18
everybody
59:18
getting
59:19
what
59:19
they
59:19
need
59:19
at
59:20
that
59:20
time
59:20
and
59:21
so
59:21
it's
59:21
possible
59:22
that
59:22
your
59:23
children
59:23
won't
59:24
all
59:24
have
59:24
the
59:24
same
59:25
need
59:25
to
59:25
be
59:26
home
59:26
educated.
59:26
However,
59:28
I
59:28
am
59:28
never
59:29
ever
59:29
in
59:29
a
59:29
million
59:30
years
59:30
going
59:30
to
59:30
sit
59:30
here
59:31
and
59:31
say
59:31
don't
59:31
home
59:31
educate
59:32
all
59:32
your
59:32
children
59:32
because
59:32
as
59:33
far
59:33
as
59:33
I'm
59:33
concerned
59:33
everybody
59:34
should
59:34
home
59:34
educate
59:35
all
59:35
their
59:35
children.
59:35
So,
59:36
so
59:36
like
59:37
yes,
59:37
of
59:37
course,
59:38
like
59:38
home
59:38
educate
59:39
all
59:39
of
59:39
them
59:39
for
59:39
sure.
59:40
I'm
59:40
going
59:40
to,
59:40
I'm
59:41
going
59:41
to
59:41
also
59:41
be
59:41
annoying
59:42
and
59:42
bat
59:43
that
59:43
question
59:43
back
59:44
a
59:44
little
59:44
bit
59:44
because
59:45
until
59:46
you
59:46
get
59:46
to
59:46
that
59:47
point
59:47
where
59:47
you're
59:47
home
59:48
educating
59:48
all
59:48
of
59:48
them,
59:49
you
59:49
don't
59:49
know
59:50
how
59:51
is
59:51
it
59:51
Lucy,
59:52
your,
59:52
your
59:52
eldest.
59:52
Yeah.
59:53
You
59:53
don't
59:53
know
59:54
how
59:54
Lucy's
59:54
going
59:54
to
59:54
adapt
59:55
to
59:55
home
59:55
education.
59:55
You
59:56
don't
59:56
know
59:56
how
59:56
autonomous
59:57
she's
59:57
going
59:57
to
59:57
be.
59:57
You
59:58
don't
59:58
know
59:58
whether
59:58
she's
59:58
going
59:59
to
59:59
really
59:59
enjoy
59:59
like
1:00:00
taking
1:00:00
charge
1:00:00
of
1:00:00
the
1:00:01
her
1:00:01
own
1:00:01
learning.
1:00:01
You
1:00:02
don't
1:00:02
know
1:00:02
whether
1:00:02
she's
1:00:02
going
1:00:02
to
1:00:03
find
1:00:03
herself
1:00:03
at
1:00:03
regular
1:00:04
groups.
1:00:04
It's
1:00:05
all
1:00:05
so
1:00:05
unknown
1:00:06
that
1:00:06
you
1:00:06
don't
1:00:06
really
1:00:07
know
1:00:07
how
1:00:07
it's
1:00:07
going
1:00:07
to
1:00:07
look.
1:00:08
So
1:00:08
you
1:00:08
won't
1:00:08
know
1:00:09
how
1:00:09
to
1:00:10
integrate
1:00:11
another
1:00:11
child
1:00:12
or
1:00:12
two
1:00:12
children
1:00:12
into
1:00:13
that
1:00:13
scene
1:00:13
because
1:00:14
you
1:00:14
don't
1:00:14
know
1:00:14
what
1:00:14
the
1:00:14
scene
1:00:14
is
1:00:15
going
1:00:15
to
1:00:15
be.
1:00:15
My
1:00:16
advice
1:00:16
would
1:00:16
be
1:00:16
when
1:00:17
you
1:00:17
get
1:00:17
to
1:00:17
the
1:00:17
point
1:00:17
where
1:00:18
you're
1:00:18
thinking,
1:00:18
okay,
1:00:19
I'm
1:00:19
going
1:00:19
to
1:00:19
be
1:00:19
home
1:00:19
educating
1:00:20
at
1:00:20
least
1:00:20
one
1:00:20
more,
1:00:20
if
1:00:21
not
1:00:21
two
1:00:21
more
1:00:22
come
1:00:22
back
1:00:23
right,
1:00:23
Charlotte
1:00:24
who
1:00:25
also
1:00:25
runs
1:00:25
this
1:00:25
podcast
1:00:26
with
1:00:26
me,
1:00:26
who's
1:00:27
one
1:00:27
of
1:00:27
my
1:00:27
new
1:00:27
like
1:00:28
co
1:00:28
host.
1:00:28
Because
1:00:29
I
1:00:29
now
1:00:29
have
1:00:29
lots
1:00:30
of
1:00:30
lovely
1:00:30
co
1:00:30
hosts
1:00:30
to
1:00:30
help
1:00:31
me
1:00:31
out
1:00:31
with
1:00:31
my
1:00:31
podcast.
1:00:32
Charlotte
1:00:32
home
1:00:33
educates,
1:00:33
I
1:00:33
think
1:00:34
six.
1:00:34
All
1:00:35
of
1:00:35
varying
1:00:35
ages
1:00:36
or
1:00:36
has
1:00:36
done
1:00:37
through,
1:00:37
through
1:00:37
the
1:00:38
last
1:00:38
like
1:00:38
15
1:00:38
years.
1:00:39
She
1:00:40
is
1:00:40
the
1:00:40
perfect
1:00:40
person.
1:00:41
You
1:00:41
should
1:00:41
come
1:00:41
on
1:00:41
and
1:00:42
have
1:00:42
a
1:00:42
podcast
1:00:42
with
1:00:42
her
1:00:43
about
1:00:43
how
1:00:44
to
1:00:44
home
1:00:44
educate
1:00:45
when
1:00:45
you've
1:00:45
got
1:00:45
all
1:00:45
these
1:00:45
children,
1:00:46
all
1:00:46
different
1:00:46
ages
1:00:46
and
1:00:47
different
1:00:47
needs
1:00:47
and
1:00:47
different,
1:00:48
different
1:00:48
approaches.
1:00:49
Because
1:00:49
until
1:00:50
you
1:00:50
know
1:00:51
what
1:00:51
it
1:00:51
looks
1:00:52
like,
1:00:52
try
1:00:52
not
1:00:53
to
1:00:53
put
1:00:53
the
1:00:53
cart
1:00:53
before
1:00:53
the
1:00:53
horse
1:00:54
and
1:00:54
worry
1:00:54
about
1:00:54
we
1:00:55
ever.
1:00:55
How
1:00:55
will
1:00:55
I
1:00:55
bring
1:00:55
my
1:00:56
three
1:00:57
year
1:00:57
old
1:00:57
in,
1:00:57
my
1:00:58
seven
1:00:58
year
1:00:58
old,
1:00:58
my
1:00:59
you
1:00:59
know,
1:00:59
whatever
1:00:59
they'd
1:01:00
be
1:01:00
at
1:01:00
that
1:01:00
time.
1:01:00
Yeah,
1:01:01
sounds
1:01:01
good.
1:01:01
And
1:01:02
finally
1:01:03
a
1:01:03
fear
1:01:03
I
1:01:03
guess,
1:01:04
I
1:01:04
suppose
1:01:04
it
1:01:04
is
1:01:05
is
1:01:06
let's
1:01:06
say
1:01:06
we
1:01:06
bring
1:01:06
her
1:01:07
out
1:01:07
and
1:01:07
she's
1:01:08
doing
1:01:09
fine
1:01:10
or
1:01:10
it's
1:01:10
going
1:01:11
well
1:01:11
but
1:01:12
after
1:01:12
a
1:01:12
while
1:01:13
she's
1:01:13
like
1:01:13
no,
1:01:13
I'm
1:01:14
missing
1:01:14
whatever
1:01:15
aspects
1:01:15
of
1:01:15
school.
1:01:16
I
1:01:16
want
1:01:17
to
1:01:17
go
1:01:17
back
1:01:17
to
1:01:17
school.
1:01:18
That
1:01:18
is
1:01:19
something
1:01:19
that
1:01:19
is
1:01:19
a
1:01:20
bit
1:01:20
of
1:01:20
a
1:01:20
fear
1:01:20
for
1:01:20
me
1:01:20
is
1:01:21
that
1:01:21
something
1:01:21
that
1:01:22
has
1:01:22
happened
1:01:22
to
1:01:23
you
1:01:23
are.
1:01:23
Is
1:01:24
your
1:01:24
experience.
1:01:24
I
1:01:25
know
1:01:25
you've
1:01:25
never
1:01:25
been
1:01:25
to
1:01:26
school,
1:01:26
but.
1:01:26
No.
1:01:27
Well
1:01:28
to
1:01:28
be
1:01:28
fair
1:01:29
they
1:01:29
did
1:01:29
kind
1:01:29
of
1:01:29
very
1:01:29
part
1:01:30
time
1:01:30
briefly
1:01:31
in
1:01:31
a
1:01:31
very
1:01:32
non
1:01:32
committal
1:01:32
way
1:01:33
went
1:01:33
to
1:01:33
a
1:01:33
Montessori
1:01:34
school.
1:01:34
So
1:01:35
I
1:01:35
guess
1:01:35
kind
1:01:35
of
1:01:36
they
1:01:36
did
1:01:36
have
1:01:36
that.
1:01:37
Yes,
1:01:38
it
1:01:38
has
1:01:38
happened
1:01:38
to
1:01:39
me
1:01:39
and
1:01:39
yes
1:01:39
it
1:01:39
does
1:01:40
happen
1:01:40
to
1:01:40
people.
1:01:41
Firstly,
1:01:41
I
1:01:41
would
1:01:42
say
1:01:42
that
1:01:42
you
1:01:42
just
1:01:43
put
1:01:43
a.
1:01:43
Just
1:01:43
put
1:01:43
her
1:01:43
back
1:01:44
in
1:01:44
if
1:01:44
she
1:01:44
wants
1:01:44
to
1:01:44
go
1:01:44
back
1:01:44
in
1:01:45
and
1:01:45
then
1:01:45
take
1:01:46
it
1:01:46
back
1:01:46
out
1:01:46
if
1:01:46
she
1:01:46
wants.
1:01:46
To
1:01:46
come
1:01:47
back
1:01:47
out
1:01:47
again.
1:01:47
I
1:01:47
mean
1:01:47
it's.
1:01:48
I
1:01:48
know
1:01:48
it's
1:01:48
a
1:01:48
bit
1:01:48
yo
1:01:48
yo
1:01:49
but
1:01:49
you
1:01:49
can
1:01:49
do
1:01:49
that
1:01:49
as
1:01:50
much
1:01:50
as
1:01:50
you
1:01:50
like.
1:01:50
And
1:01:50
I
1:01:50
will
1:01:51
say
1:01:51
that
1:01:51
when
1:01:51
it
1:01:51
comes
1:01:51
to,
1:01:52
you
1:01:52
know,
1:01:52
we're
1:01:52
talking
1:01:53
about
1:01:53
D
1:01:53
reg
1:01:53
at
1:01:53
the
1:01:54
very
1:01:54
start,
1:01:55
it
1:01:55
is
1:01:55
scary
1:01:55
but
1:01:56
it's
1:01:56
not
1:01:56
like
1:01:56
a
1:01:57
one
1:01:57
way
1:01:57
street.
1:01:57
It's
1:01:57
not
1:01:58
commitment
1:01:58
for
1:01:58
life.
1:01:58
You
1:01:59
can
1:01:59
just
1:01:59
put
1:01:59
it
1:01:59
back
1:01:59
in
1:01:59
if
1:01:59
you
1:02:00
want
1:02:00
to,
1:02:00
you
1:02:00
know,
1:02:00
you
1:02:00
can
1:02:01
just
1:02:01
do
1:02:01
that.
1:02:01
I
1:02:01
know
1:02:01
it's
1:02:01
a
1:02:02
logistically
1:02:02
a
1:02:03
bit
1:02:03
of
1:02:03
a
1:02:03
pain
1:02:03
and
1:02:03
you
1:02:03
might
1:02:03
not
1:02:04
get
1:02:04
the
1:02:04
same
1:02:04
school
1:02:04
or
1:02:05
whatever
1:02:06
but
1:02:06
realistically
1:02:07
you
1:02:07
can
1:02:07
just
1:02:07
put
1:02:07
her
1:02:07
back
1:02:08
in
1:02:08
anytime
1:02:08
you
1:02:08
want
1:02:09
to
1:02:09
assuming
1:02:10
that
1:02:10
you
1:02:10
know,
1:02:10
the
1:02:11
places
1:02:11
are
1:02:11
available
1:02:11
or
1:02:12
I
1:02:12
don't
1:02:12
know,
1:02:12
whatever.
1:02:13
So
1:02:14
yes,
1:02:14
you
1:02:15
can
1:02:15
just
1:02:15
put
1:02:15
her
1:02:16
back
1:02:16
in.
1:02:17
Yes,
1:02:17
it
1:02:17
does
1:02:18
happen.
1:02:19
If
1:02:19
you
1:02:20
have
1:02:20
listened
1:02:20
to
1:02:21
the
1:02:21
podcast
1:02:21
the
1:02:22
Journey
1:02:22
through
1:02:22
Home
1:02:22
Education
1:02:23
with
1:02:24
Ash
1:02:24
and
1:02:24
Ismail.
1:02:25
They
1:02:26
Ash
1:02:27
took
1:02:27
Ismail
1:02:28
out
1:02:29
I
1:02:29
think
1:02:29
a
1:02:29
year,
1:02:30
two
1:02:30
years
1:02:30
ago
1:02:31
and
1:02:31
then
1:02:32
a
1:02:32
year
1:02:32
ago,
1:02:33
the
1:02:33
last
1:02:33
podcast
1:02:34
I
1:02:34
did
1:02:34
with
1:02:34
her,
1:02:35
he
1:02:36
wanted
1:02:36
to
1:02:36
go
1:02:36
back
1:02:36
into
1:02:37
school.
1:02:37
He
1:02:37
was
1:02:37
just
1:02:37
about
1:02:38
to
1:02:38
restart
1:02:38
school.
1:02:39
The
1:02:39
most
1:02:40
recent
1:02:40
episode
1:02:41
was
1:02:41
catching
1:02:42
up
1:02:42
on
1:02:42
what.
1:02:43
What's
1:02:43
been
1:02:43
going
1:02:43
on.
1:02:44
And
1:02:44
then
1:02:44
he
1:02:44
wanted
1:02:44
to
1:02:44
come
1:02:45
out
1:02:45
of
1:02:45
school
1:02:45
again.
1:02:45
And
1:02:46
so
1:02:46
this
1:02:46
happens,
1:02:47
right?
1:02:47
Children
1:02:48
do
1:02:48
sometimes
1:02:49
think,
1:02:49
oh,
1:02:49
I'm
1:02:50
missing
1:02:50
out.
1:02:50
And
1:02:50
then
1:02:50
they
1:02:50
get
1:02:51
back
1:02:51
to
1:02:51
school
1:02:51
and
1:02:51
they
1:02:51
think,
1:02:51
oh,
1:02:52
my
1:02:52
God,
1:02:52
crap.
1:02:52
I'm
1:02:52
not
1:02:52
missing
1:02:53
out.
1:02:53
This
1:02:53
is
1:02:53
awful.
1:02:54
And
1:02:54
actually,
1:02:54
I
1:02:55
had
1:02:55
a.
1:02:55
I
1:02:55
had
1:02:55
an
1:02:55
experience
1:02:56
with
1:02:56
my
1:02:56
daughter,
1:02:57
so.
1:02:57
My
1:02:57
daughter's
1:02:58
17,
1:02:58
never
1:02:59
really
1:02:59
been
1:02:59
to
1:02:59
school.
1:03:00
She
1:03:00
said
1:03:01
she
1:03:01
wanted
1:03:01
to
1:03:01
try
1:03:01
school
1:03:02
this
1:03:02
September.
1:03:03
I
1:03:03
was
1:03:03
like,
1:03:03
okay,
1:03:04
yeah,
1:03:05
sure.
1:03:05
Like,
1:03:05
let's
1:03:06
go
1:03:06
for
1:03:06
that.
1:03:06
She
1:03:07
lasted,
1:03:07
what,
1:03:08
what,
1:03:08
three,
1:03:09
three
1:03:09
and
1:03:09
a
1:03:09
half
1:03:09
weeks?
1:03:10
And
1:03:10
then
1:03:10
she
1:03:10
stopped
1:03:10
last
1:03:11
week.
1:03:11
And,
1:03:11
you
1:03:12
know,
1:03:12
and
1:03:12
that
1:03:13
was
1:03:13
that.
1:03:13
And
1:03:13
she's
1:03:14
fine.
1:03:14
She
1:03:15
was
1:03:15
just
1:03:15
like,
1:03:15
yeah,
1:03:15
no,
1:03:15
I
1:03:16
didn't
1:03:16
really
1:03:16
like
1:03:16
that.
1:03:16
I
1:03:16
was
1:03:16
a
1:03:16
bit
1:03:17
crap.
1:03:17
And
1:03:18
now
1:03:18
she's
1:03:18
not
1:03:18
doing
1:03:18
it
1:03:18
anymore.
1:03:19
Now
1:03:19
she's
1:03:19
home
1:03:19
educating
1:03:20
again,
1:03:20
and
1:03:21
it's
1:03:21
okay.
1:03:22
It's
1:03:22
okay.
1:03:23
Whatever
1:03:23
the
1:03:23
child
1:03:24
wants
1:03:25
and
1:03:25
needs,
1:03:26
assuming
1:03:26
that
1:03:26
it's
1:03:27
not
1:03:27
just
1:03:27
super
1:03:27
whimsical,
1:03:28
you
1:03:28
know,
1:03:28
they
1:03:28
don't
1:03:28
wake
1:03:29
up
1:03:29
every
1:03:29
other
1:03:30
day
1:03:30
thinking
1:03:30
something
1:03:30
else,
1:03:31
then
1:03:32
try
1:03:32
to
1:03:32
go
1:03:33
with
1:03:33
that.
1:03:33
It
1:03:33
is
1:03:33
possible
1:03:34
that
1:03:34
she
1:03:34
will
1:03:36
miss
1:03:36
friendships,
1:03:37
that
1:03:37
she
1:03:37
will
1:03:37
feel
1:03:38
a
1:03:38
bit
1:03:38
left
1:03:38
out.
1:03:39
I
1:03:39
know
1:03:39
that
1:03:39
Ash
1:03:40
talked
1:03:40
a
1:03:40
little
1:03:40
bit
1:03:40
about
1:03:41
Ismail
1:03:41
kind
1:03:42
of
1:03:42
feeling
1:03:42
like,
1:03:42
almost
1:03:43
like.
1:03:43
Kind
1:03:43
of
1:03:43
like
1:03:44
what
1:03:44
he
1:03:44
was
1:03:44
doing
1:03:45
wasn't
1:03:45
kind
1:03:45
of
1:03:45
normal.
1:03:46
And
1:03:46
he
1:03:46
almost
1:03:46
wanted
1:03:47
to
1:03:47
feel
1:03:47
part
1:03:47
of,
1:03:47
like,
1:03:48
the
1:03:48
normality
1:03:48
of
1:03:48
the
1:03:49
school
1:03:49
experience.
1:03:50
Like
1:03:50
I
1:03:50
say,
1:03:51
spoiler
1:03:51
alert,
1:03:51
didn't
1:03:52
last
1:03:52
for
1:03:52
very
1:03:52
long,
1:03:53
and
1:03:53
it
1:03:53
is
1:03:53
really
1:03:54
difficult.
1:03:54
And
1:03:55
children
1:03:55
can
1:03:56
sometimes
1:03:56
struggle
1:03:57
to
1:03:57
project
1:03:58
into
1:03:59
a
1:03:59
reality
1:03:59
of
1:04:00
something
1:04:00
else.
1:04:00
And
1:04:00
then
1:04:01
they
1:04:01
get
1:04:01
into
1:04:01
that
1:04:01
reality
1:04:02
and
1:04:02
they're
1:04:03
like,
1:04:03
oh,
1:04:03
okay,
1:04:03
I
1:04:03
actually
1:04:04
don't
1:04:04
like
1:04:04
this.
1:04:04
And
1:04:04
then
1:04:05
you
1:04:05
take
1:04:05
them
1:04:05
out
1:04:05
again
1:04:05
and
1:04:06
that's
1:04:06
okay.
1:04:06
It's
1:04:07
okay.
1:04:07
Yeah.
1:04:08
Yeah.
1:04:08
I
1:04:08
think
1:04:08
that's
1:04:09
just
1:04:09
getting
1:04:09
into
1:04:09
that.
1:04:10
That
1:04:11
feeling
1:04:11
that,
1:04:11
you
1:04:11
know,
1:04:12
she
1:04:12
could.
1:04:12
She
1:04:12
could
1:04:12
go
1:04:13
back
1:04:13
if
1:04:13
she
1:04:13
wants
1:04:13
to.
1:04:13
It's
1:04:14
not
1:04:14
the
1:04:14
end
1:04:14
of
1:04:14
the
1:04:14
world.
1:04:15
Yeah.
1:04:16
I
1:04:16
guess
1:04:17
you.
1:04:17
There's
1:04:17
a.
1:04:18
There
1:04:18
would
1:04:19
be
1:04:19
a
1:04:19
bit
1:04:19
of
1:04:19
you
1:04:19
that's
1:04:20
thinking,
1:04:20
oh,
1:04:20
you
1:04:21
know,
1:04:21
I've.
1:04:22
I've
1:04:22
failed
1:04:23
if
1:04:23
she's.
1:04:23
If
1:04:23
she
1:04:24
wants
1:04:24
to.
1:04:24
To
1:04:24
go
1:04:25
back.
1:04:25
But
1:04:25
really,
1:04:25
whatever
1:04:26
makes
1:04:26
her
1:04:26
happy
1:04:26
is.
1:04:27
Is
1:04:28
my
1:04:28
goal.
1:04:29
And
1:04:29
I
1:04:29
think
1:04:29
it's
1:04:29
hard
1:04:29
because
1:04:30
at
1:04:30
her
1:04:31
age,
1:04:31
you
1:04:31
know,
1:04:31
she's.
1:04:33
I
1:04:33
don't
1:04:33
want
1:04:33
to
1:04:34
entirely
1:04:34
make
1:04:34
the
1:04:35
decision
1:04:35
for
1:04:35
her,
1:04:36
but
1:04:36
equally,
1:04:38
I
1:04:38
don't
1:04:38
want
1:04:38
to
1:04:38
put
1:04:38
it
1:04:38
entirely
1:04:39
on
1:04:39
her
1:04:39
shoulders,
1:04:40
if
1:04:40
you
1:04:40
know
1:04:40
what
1:04:40
I
1:04:40
mean.
1:04:41
It's
1:04:41
a
1:04:41
lot
1:04:41
of
1:04:41
responsibility
1:04:42
for
1:04:42
her
1:04:42
to
1:04:42
say,
1:04:43
well,
1:04:43
you
1:04:43
know,
1:04:43
this
1:04:44
is.
1:04:44
You
1:04:44
don't
1:04:44
really
1:04:45
know
1:04:45
what
1:04:45
home
1:04:45
Ed
1:04:45
is.
1:04:46
We
1:04:46
haven't
1:04:46
experienced
1:04:47
it
1:04:47
yet,
1:04:47
but
1:04:47
you
1:04:47
want
1:04:47
to
1:04:48
leave
1:04:48
everything
1:04:48
you've
1:04:48
known
1:04:49
and
1:04:49
take
1:04:49
that
1:04:49
option?
1:04:50
Because
1:04:51
I
1:04:51
think
1:04:51
that's
1:04:51
too
1:04:52
much
1:04:52
responsibility
1:04:53
for.
1:04:53
For
1:04:53
them.
1:04:53
But
1:04:54
equally,
1:04:55
I
1:04:55
don't
1:04:55
want
1:04:56
to
1:04:56
make
1:04:56
a
1:04:56
blanket
1:04:57
choice
1:04:57
for
1:04:57
her,
1:04:57
so
1:04:58
I'm
1:04:58
trying
1:04:58
to
1:04:58
involve
1:04:59
her,
1:04:59
but
1:04:59
not
1:05:00
totally
1:05:00
give
1:05:01
her
1:05:01
the
1:05:01
reins.
1:05:02
Time
1:05:02
will
1:05:02
tell.
1:05:02
We'll
1:05:03
see.
1:05:03
I'll
1:05:03
have
1:05:03
to
1:05:03
update
1:05:04
you.
1:05:05
Yeah.
1:05:06
Like
1:05:06
you
1:05:06
say,
1:05:06
she
1:05:07
doesn't
1:05:07
really
1:05:07
know
1:05:08
what
1:05:08
she's
1:05:08
choosing
1:05:09
because
1:05:09
she's
1:05:10
not
1:05:10
done
1:05:10
it.
1:05:10
So
1:05:11
realistically,
1:05:12
just
1:05:13
give
1:05:13
it
1:05:13
a
1:05:13
try.
1:05:13
Give
1:05:14
it
1:05:14
a
1:05:14
try.
1:05:14
Give
1:05:14
yourself
1:05:15
a
1:05:15
set
1:05:15
period
1:05:15
of
1:05:15
time
1:05:16
and
1:05:16
be
1:05:16
like,
1:05:16
okay,
1:05:17
we're
1:05:17
gonna
1:05:17
try,
1:05:17
like,
1:05:18
I
1:05:18
don't
1:05:18
know,
1:05:19
two
1:05:19
terms
1:05:20
or
1:05:20
something.
1:05:21
And
1:05:21
give
1:05:22
yourself.
1:05:23
I
1:05:23
always
1:05:23
say
1:05:23
this
1:05:23
with
1:05:23
my
1:05:24
clients.
1:05:24
Give
1:05:24
yourself
1:05:25
criteria
1:05:25
by
1:05:26
which
1:05:26
you'll
1:05:26
know
1:05:26
if
1:05:26
it's
1:05:27
working.
1:05:27
You
1:05:27
know,
1:05:28
like,
1:05:28
how
1:05:28
will
1:05:28
you
1:05:28
know
1:05:29
if
1:05:29
home
1:05:29
education
1:05:30
is
1:05:30
working?
1:05:30
Is
1:05:30
she
1:05:31
crying
1:05:31
in
1:05:31
the
1:05:31
morning
1:05:31
because
1:05:33
she
1:05:33
misses
1:05:33
school
1:05:34
and
1:05:34
misses
1:05:34
her
1:05:34
friends?
1:05:35
Well,
1:05:35
that's
1:05:35
probably
1:05:36
an
1:05:36
indication
1:05:36
that
1:05:36
it
1:05:37
isn't.
1:05:37
Is
1:05:38
she
1:05:39
really.
1:05:39
Has
1:05:39
her
1:05:39
behavior
1:05:40
really
1:05:40
deteriorated
1:05:41
and
1:05:41
she's
1:05:41
really
1:05:42
angry
1:05:42
or
1:05:43
really
1:05:44
resentful
1:05:45
or
1:05:45
frustrated
1:05:46
or
1:05:46
withdrawn
1:05:47
or
1:05:47
any
1:05:47
of
1:05:47
these
1:05:47
things
1:05:48
that
1:05:48
you
1:05:48
notice
1:05:49
when
1:05:49
the
1:05:49
school
1:05:49
experience
1:05:49
wasn't
1:05:50
working?
1:05:51
Well,
1:05:51
if
1:05:51
any
1:05:51
of
1:05:52
those,
1:05:52
then
1:05:52
maybe
1:05:52
home
1:05:52
education
1:05:53
isn't
1:05:53
working,
1:05:53
or
1:05:54
maybe
1:05:54
something
1:05:54
needs
1:05:55
to
1:05:55
change.
1:05:55
So
1:05:56
just
1:05:56
be
1:05:56
reasonably
1:05:57
clear
1:05:57
about
1:05:57
what
1:05:58
you're
1:05:58
looking
1:05:58
for
1:05:58
here.
1:05:59
Like,
1:05:59
what
1:05:59
is
1:05:59
it
1:06:00
you're
1:06:00
wanting
1:06:00
to
1:06:01
feel
1:06:01
would
1:06:01
be
1:06:02
a
1:06:02
sign
1:06:02
that
1:06:02
it's
1:06:03
working
1:06:03
and
1:06:03
that
1:06:03
it's
1:06:04
better
1:06:04
than
1:06:04
the
1:06:04
school
1:06:04
experience
1:06:05
was
1:06:05
last
1:06:05
year?
1:06:06
That's
1:06:06
reassuring.
1:06:07
Thank
1:06:07
you.
1:06:08
Would
1:06:08
you
1:06:09
like
1:06:09
to
1:06:09
go
1:06:10
through
1:06:10
any
1:06:10
of
1:06:10
your
1:06:10
other
1:06:10
questions
1:06:11
and
1:06:11
ask
1:06:11
me
1:06:12
anything
1:06:12
that's
1:06:12
left
1:06:12
over?
1:06:13
Feel
1:06:13
free
1:06:13
to
1:06:13
do
1:06:13
that
1:06:14
if
1:06:14
you'd
1:06:14
like
1:06:14
to.
1:06:15
I
1:06:15
think
1:06:15
that
1:06:15
is
1:06:16
the
1:06:16
vast
1:06:17
majority.
1:06:19
What
1:06:19
would
1:06:19
your
1:06:19
husband
1:06:20
ask
1:06:20
if
1:06:20
he
1:06:20
was
1:06:21
here
1:06:21
asking
1:06:21
me
1:06:22
questions?
1:06:22
What's
1:06:23
his
1:06:23
worry
1:06:23
about
1:06:23
home,
1:06:24
Ed?
1:06:24
Well,
1:06:25
I
1:06:25
asked
1:06:25
him
1:06:25
last
1:06:25
night.
1:06:25
I
1:06:25
said,
1:06:26
you
1:06:26
know,
1:06:26
I'll
1:06:26
write
1:06:26
these
1:06:26
lists
1:06:27
of
1:06:27
questions.
1:06:27
What.
1:06:27
What
1:06:27
would
1:06:27
you
1:06:28
like
1:06:28
to
1:06:28
know?
1:06:28
And
1:06:28
he
1:06:28
said
1:06:30
he
1:06:30
didn't.
1:06:30
Kind
1:06:31
of.
1:06:31
I
1:06:31
think
1:06:32
he
1:06:32
said,
1:06:32
I
1:06:33
don't
1:06:33
want
1:06:33
to
1:06:33
really
1:06:33
put
1:06:33
it
1:06:33
all
1:06:33
on
1:06:34
your
1:06:34
shoulders,
1:06:35
but
1:06:36
equally,
1:06:36
if
1:06:36
you
1:06:37
just
1:06:37
give
1:06:37
me
1:06:37
something
1:06:37
that
1:06:37
I
1:06:38
need
1:06:38
to
1:06:38
teach
1:06:38
her,
1:06:38
then
1:06:39
I'll
1:06:39
teach
1:06:39
it
1:06:39
to
1:06:39
her,
1:06:40
or
1:06:40
I'll
1:06:40
give
1:06:41
her
1:06:41
that
1:06:41
opportunity
1:06:42
to
1:06:42
learn,
1:06:43
whatever
1:06:43
it
1:06:44
be.
1:06:44
But
1:06:45
I
1:06:45
think
1:06:46
he
1:06:46
is
1:06:46
the
1:06:46
same
1:06:47
as
1:06:47
me
1:06:47
in
1:06:47
that
1:06:47
we've
1:06:47
both,
1:06:48
you
1:06:48
know,
1:06:48
both
1:06:49
been
1:06:49
all
1:06:49
the
1:06:49
way
1:06:49
through
1:06:50
school,
1:06:50
college,
1:06:51
uni,
1:06:52
and
1:06:52
we're
1:06:52
really
1:06:53
set
1:06:53
on
1:06:53
that
1:06:54
path.
1:06:54
I
1:06:54
suppose
1:06:54
that
1:06:55
that's
1:06:55
how
1:06:55
you
1:06:55
learn.
1:06:56
And
1:06:56
there's
1:06:56
some
1:06:56
kind
1:06:56
of
1:06:57
worksheets
1:06:57
or
1:06:58
whatever.
1:06:58
To,
1:06:59
to
1:06:59
prove
1:06:59
what
1:07:00
you've
1:07:00
done.
1:07:01
And
1:07:01
so
1:07:02
I
1:07:02
think
1:07:02
it
1:07:02
will
1:07:02
be
1:07:02
a
1:07:03
learning
1:07:03
curve
1:07:03
for
1:07:03
both
1:07:03
of
1:07:04
us,
1:07:04
particularly
1:07:04
to
1:07:05
get
1:07:05
out
1:07:05
of
1:07:05
that
1:07:06
mindset,
1:07:06
I
1:07:06
suppose,
1:07:07
and
1:07:07
to
1:07:07
just
1:07:07
see
1:07:08
learning
1:07:08
that
1:07:08
it
1:07:08
comes
1:07:08
from.
1:07:09
From
1:07:09
so
1:07:09
many
1:07:10
other
1:07:10
experiences
1:07:11
rather
1:07:11
than
1:07:11
just
1:07:12
specific
1:07:12
sheets.
1:07:13
But
1:07:13
I
1:07:13
think
1:07:14
if
1:07:14
we
1:07:14
can
1:07:14
do
1:07:14
some
1:07:14
basics
1:07:15
of
1:07:15
maths
1:07:15
and
1:07:15
English
1:07:16
every
1:07:16
day,
1:07:16
it'll
1:07:17
help
1:07:17
us
1:07:17
feel
1:07:17
like
1:07:18
we've
1:07:18
covered
1:07:18
everything.
1:07:19
But
1:07:19
then
1:07:19
you
1:07:19
can
1:07:19
have
1:07:19
hours
1:07:20
of
1:07:20
play
1:07:20
on
1:07:20
top
1:07:21
of
1:07:21
that.
1:07:21
And
1:07:21
so
1:07:21
hopefully
1:07:22
we'll
1:07:22
both
1:07:23
feel
1:07:23
like
1:07:24
we're.
1:07:24
We're
1:07:24
getting
1:07:24
there.
1:07:25
But
1:07:26
Russ
1:07:26
is
1:07:26
quite
1:07:27
keen
1:07:27
to
1:07:28
be
1:07:28
involved,
1:07:29
more
1:07:29
than
1:07:29
I
1:07:30
thought
1:07:30
he
1:07:30
would,
1:07:30
actually.
1:07:30
I
1:07:31
thought
1:07:31
it
1:07:31
was
1:07:31
going
1:07:31
to
1:07:31
be
1:07:32
down
1:07:32
to
1:07:32
me,
1:07:32
the
1:07:33
education
1:07:34
side
1:07:34
of
1:07:34
it.
1:07:34
But
1:07:35
he's
1:07:35
keen
1:07:36
to.
1:07:36
To
1:07:37
give
1:07:37
it
1:07:37
a
1:07:37
go.
1:07:38
But
1:07:39
he
1:07:39
says
1:07:39
his
1:07:40
main
1:07:40
worry
1:07:40
is
1:07:41
her
1:07:41
just
1:07:42
not
1:07:42
wanting
1:07:42
to
1:07:43
do
1:07:43
it,
1:07:43
you
1:07:43
know,
1:07:44
like
1:07:44
how
1:07:45
you
1:07:45
don't.
1:07:45
We
1:07:45
don't
1:07:45
want
1:07:46
to
1:07:46
force
1:07:46
her.
1:07:46
You
1:07:46
don't
1:07:46
want
1:07:46
to
1:07:46
make
1:07:47
her
1:07:47
do
1:07:47
a
1:07:47
Lassie
1:07:48
or
1:07:48
a.
1:07:49
Whatever
1:07:49
it
1:07:49
may
1:07:49
be.
1:07:50
But
1:07:50
equally,
1:07:51
you
1:07:51
know,
1:07:51
you
1:07:52
don't
1:07:52
want
1:07:52
to
1:07:52
be
1:07:52
too
1:07:52
firm.
1:07:52
But
1:07:53
she's
1:07:53
gotta,
1:07:53
she's
1:07:53
gotta
1:07:54
do
1:07:54
something.
1:07:54
So,
1:07:55
I
1:07:55
mean,
1:07:56
she
1:07:56
will
1:07:56
be
1:07:56
doing
1:07:56
lots
1:07:56
of
1:07:57
things.
1:07:57
Yes.
1:07:57
It's
1:07:57
just
1:07:58
because
1:07:58
you've
1:07:59
not
1:07:59
experienced
1:07:59
it.
1:08:00
All
1:08:00
we've
1:08:00
got
1:08:00
to
1:08:01
base
1:08:01
it
1:08:01
on
1:08:01
at
1:08:01
the
1:08:01
moment
1:08:02
is
1:08:02
that,
1:08:02
you
1:08:02
know,
1:08:03
she's
1:08:03
got
1:08:03
home,
1:08:03
which
1:08:03
doesn't
1:08:04
want
1:08:04
to
1:08:04
do
1:08:04
it.
1:08:04
She
1:08:04
does
1:08:05
eventually
1:08:05
do
1:08:05
it,
1:08:05
but,
1:08:06
you
1:08:06
know,
1:08:06
it's
1:08:07
a
1:08:07
struggle,
1:08:07
it's
1:08:07
a.
1:08:08
It's
1:08:08
a
1:08:08
fight.
1:08:08
It
1:08:09
takes
1:08:09
several
1:08:09
nights
1:08:10
to
1:08:10
get
1:08:10
it
1:08:10
to
1:08:10
be
1:08:10
done.
1:08:11
And
1:08:11
we
1:08:11
think,
1:08:12
oh,
1:08:12
this,
1:08:12
this
1:08:12
is
1:08:13
going
1:08:13
to
1:08:13
be
1:08:13
hard
1:08:13
work.
1:08:14
If,
1:08:14
if
1:08:14
this
1:08:15
is
1:08:16
how
1:08:16
it's
1:08:16
going
1:08:16
to
1:08:17
be
1:08:17
every
1:08:17
day.
1:08:17
Yeah,
1:08:18
we
1:08:18
think,
1:08:18
like,
1:08:19
her
1:08:19
attention
1:08:19
span
1:08:19
is
1:08:20
really,
1:08:20
really
1:08:20
short.
1:08:21
If
1:08:22
it's
1:08:22
not
1:08:22
easy
1:08:23
and
1:08:23
she
1:08:23
instantly
1:08:24
has
1:08:24
the
1:08:24
answer,
1:08:24
she
1:08:24
doesn't,
1:08:25
she
1:08:25
doesn't
1:08:25
want
1:08:26
to
1:08:26
do
1:08:26
it.
1:08:27
Well,
1:08:27
in
1:08:28
actual
1:08:28
fact,
1:08:28
her
1:08:29
attention
1:08:29
span
1:08:30
is
1:08:30
not
1:08:30
really,
1:08:31
really
1:08:31
short.
1:08:31
Right.
1:08:32
Because
1:08:32
when
1:08:32
she's
1:08:32
playing
1:08:32
Lego
1:08:33
and
1:08:33
stuff,
1:08:34
she
1:08:34
has
1:08:34
a
1:08:34
really
1:08:34
long
1:08:34
attention
1:08:35
span.
1:08:35
Like
1:08:36
everybody
1:08:36
in
1:08:36
the
1:08:37
world,
1:08:37
if
1:08:37
she
1:08:37
finds
1:08:38
something
1:08:38
boring,
1:08:38
she
1:08:38
really
1:08:39
struggles
1:08:39
to
1:08:39
pay
1:08:39
attention
1:08:40
to
1:08:40
it.
1:08:40
We
1:08:40
are
1:08:40
the
1:08:40
same
1:08:41
as
1:08:41
adults.
1:08:42
Like,
1:08:42
I
1:08:42
downloaded
1:08:43
this
1:08:43
course
1:08:43
and
1:08:43
I
1:08:44
thought
1:08:44
it
1:08:44
was
1:08:44
going
1:08:44
to
1:08:44
be
1:08:44
really
1:08:44
interesting.
1:08:45
And
1:08:45
then
1:08:45
I
1:08:45
started.
1:08:45
It
1:08:46
was
1:08:46
really
1:08:46
boring
1:08:46
and
1:08:47
I
1:08:47
was
1:08:47
like,
1:08:47
I'm
1:08:47
not
1:08:47
doing
1:08:47
that.
1:08:47
I'm
1:08:48
going
1:08:48
to
1:08:48
do
1:08:48
another
1:08:48
more
1:08:49
fun
1:08:49
course
1:08:49
because
1:08:50
I
1:08:50
was
1:08:50
able
1:08:50
to
1:08:50
make
1:08:50
that
1:08:51
decision.
1:08:51
And
1:08:52
the
1:08:52
last
1:08:52
thing
1:08:52
you
1:08:52
want
1:08:53
to
1:08:53
do
1:08:53
is
1:08:53
push
1:08:54
up
1:08:54
against
1:08:54
resistance,
1:08:55
you
1:08:55
know,
1:08:56
is.
1:08:56
Is
1:08:56
to
1:08:57
start
1:08:57
replicating
1:08:58
that
1:08:58
sense
1:08:58
of
1:08:59
frustration
1:08:59
and
1:08:59
resistance
1:09:00
that
1:09:00
she
1:09:00
had
1:09:00
at
1:09:00
school.
1:09:01
If
1:09:01
you're
1:09:02
putting
1:09:02
something
1:09:02
in
1:09:03
front
1:09:03
of
1:09:03
her
1:09:03
like
1:09:03
maths
1:09:04
or
1:09:04
English
1:09:04
or
1:09:04
whatever,
1:09:05
and
1:09:05
she's
1:09:06
resistant
1:09:06
to
1:09:06
doing
1:09:06
it.
1:09:07
That's
1:09:07
information
1:09:08
for
1:09:08
you,
1:09:08
not
1:09:09
an
1:09:09
issue
1:09:09
with
1:09:10
her.
1:09:10
So
1:09:11
that
1:09:11
means
1:09:11
you
1:09:11
need
1:09:11
to
1:09:12
think
1:09:12
about
1:09:12
a
1:09:12
different
1:09:12
route
1:09:13
into
1:09:13
that.
1:09:14
If
1:09:14
you
1:09:14
put,
1:09:14
like,
1:09:14
a
1:09:15
Carol
1:09:15
Vorderman
1:09:16
workbook
1:09:16
down
1:09:16
in
1:09:16
front
1:09:17
of
1:09:17
her
1:09:17
with
1:09:17
all
1:09:17
his
1:09:18
little
1:09:18
colors
1:09:18
and
1:09:18
pictures
1:09:19
and
1:09:19
cartoon
1:09:20
figures,
1:09:20
and
1:09:21
she
1:09:21
doesn't
1:09:21
want
1:09:21
to
1:09:21
do
1:09:21
it
1:09:21
because
1:09:22
she's
1:09:22
not
1:09:22
an
1:09:22
idiot.
1:09:22
She
1:09:23
sees
1:09:23
that
1:09:23
actually,
1:09:23
this
1:09:23
is
1:09:23
maths
1:09:24
that
1:09:24
you're
1:09:24
getting
1:09:25
me
1:09:25
to
1:09:25
do
1:09:25
here.
1:09:25
Right?
1:09:26
It's
1:09:26
just
1:09:26
maths
1:09:27
with
1:09:27
pictures
1:09:28
then.
1:09:28
Okay.
1:09:28
That's
1:09:29
not
1:09:29
how
1:09:29
she
1:09:29
learns
1:09:29
her
1:09:29
maths.
1:09:30
Buy
1:09:30
a
1:09:30
pizza,
1:09:31
chop
1:09:31
up
1:09:31
a
1:09:31
pizza,
1:09:32
do
1:09:32
some
1:09:32
fractions,
1:09:33
do
1:09:33
some,
1:09:34
you
1:09:34
know,
1:09:35
start.
1:09:35
Start,
1:09:35
like,
1:09:36
manipulating
1:09:36
some.
1:09:37
Some
1:09:37
figures
1:09:37
around
1:09:38
and
1:09:38
start
1:09:38
looking
1:09:38
at
1:09:39
multiplications
1:09:40
and
1:09:40
patterns
1:09:41
of
1:09:41
numbers.
1:09:41
There's
1:09:42
all
1:09:42
sorts
1:09:42
of
1:09:42
ways
1:09:43
into
1:09:44
learning
1:09:44
maths.
1:09:44
I
1:09:44
actually
1:09:44
did
1:09:45
a
1:09:45
really
1:09:45
nice
1:09:46
podcast
1:09:47
about
1:09:48
making
1:09:48
learning
1:09:49
fun
1:09:49
or
1:09:49
something.
1:09:49
I
1:09:50
can't
1:09:50
remember.
1:09:50
But
1:09:50
anyway,
1:09:51
there
1:09:51
are
1:09:51
numerous
1:09:52
podcasts
1:09:52
about,
1:09:53
you
1:09:53
know,
1:09:53
like,
1:09:53
how
1:09:54
to
1:09:54
make
1:09:54
learning
1:09:55
engaging.
1:09:55
And
1:09:55
I
1:09:55
think
1:09:56
if.
1:09:56
If
1:09:56
you're
1:09:56
encountering
1:09:57
resistance,
1:09:59
that's
1:09:59
an
1:09:59
issue
1:09:59
with
1:10:00
you
1:10:00
and
1:10:01
how
1:10:01
you're
1:10:01
approaching
1:10:02
that
1:10:02
particular
1:10:02
topic.
1:10:03
And
1:10:03
I
1:10:03
would
1:10:03
take
1:10:03
that
1:10:04
as
1:10:04
information
1:10:04
and
1:10:04
back
1:10:05
off
1:10:05
and
1:10:05
be
1:10:05
like,
1:10:05
okay,
1:10:05
that's
1:10:06
not
1:10:06
working.
1:10:06
I've
1:10:07
done.
1:10:07
I've
1:10:07
done
1:10:07
something
1:10:08
wrong
1:10:08
here,
1:10:09
and
1:10:09
then
1:10:09
come
1:10:09
at
1:10:09
it
1:10:10
from
1:10:10
a
1:10:10
different
1:10:10
angle
1:10:10
the
1:10:10
next
1:10:11
day.
1:10:11
That
1:10:11
doesn't
1:10:12
mean
1:10:12
that
1:10:12
home
1:10:12
education
1:10:13
isn't
1:10:13
working
1:10:14
or
1:10:14
that
1:10:14
Lucy
1:10:15
is.
1:10:15
Got
1:10:16
a
1:10:16
problem
1:10:16
with
1:10:16
her
1:10:16
attention
1:10:17
span.
1:10:17
That's
1:10:17
just
1:10:17
something
1:10:18
in
1:10:18
how
1:10:18
you're
1:10:18
doing
1:10:18
it.
1:10:19
Yeah,
1:10:19
yeah,
1:10:20
definitely.
1:10:21
In
1:10:21
my
1:10:21
experience
1:10:21
of.
1:10:22
Of
1:10:22
dads,
1:10:23
when
1:10:23
it
1:10:23
comes
1:10:23
to
1:10:23
home
1:10:24
educating,
1:10:25
the
1:10:25
main
1:10:25
thing
1:10:25
they
1:10:25
tend
1:10:25
to
1:10:26
be
1:10:26
concerned
1:10:26
about
1:10:26
is
1:10:26
the
1:10:27
amount
1:10:27
they'll
1:10:27
be
1:10:27
learning
1:10:28
and
1:10:28
whether
1:10:28
they're
1:10:29
going
1:10:29
to
1:10:29
be
1:10:29
held
1:10:30
back
1:10:30
in
1:10:30
the
1:10:30
future.
1:10:30
Academically,
1:10:32
it's
1:10:32
a
1:10:32
big
1:10:32
generalization,
1:10:33
but
1:10:33
that
1:10:33
seems
1:10:33
to
1:10:34
be
1:10:34
the
1:10:34
thing
1:10:34
that
1:10:34
dads
1:10:34
in
1:10:35
particular
1:10:35
tend
1:10:35
to
1:10:35
get
1:10:36
concerned
1:10:36
about.
1:10:37
And
1:10:37
all
1:10:37
I
1:10:38
would
1:10:38
say
1:10:38
when
1:10:38
it
1:10:38
comes
1:10:38
to
1:10:39
that
1:10:39
is
1:10:39
that
1:10:40
realistically,
1:10:41
your
1:10:41
child
1:10:42
could
1:10:42
learn
1:10:43
nothing
1:10:44
in
1:10:44
a
1:10:44
formalized
1:10:45
way
1:10:46
from
1:10:46
now
1:10:46
through
1:10:47
to
1:10:47
13.
1:10:48
And
1:10:48
at
1:10:48
13,
1:10:49
you
1:10:49
could
1:10:49
sit
1:10:49
them
1:10:50
down
1:10:50
with
1:10:50
GCSE
1:10:50
curriculum
1:10:51
and
1:10:51
they
1:10:51
could
1:10:52
learn
1:10:52
that
1:10:52
GCSE
1:10:53
curriculum
1:10:53
and
1:10:53
get
1:10:53
the
1:10:53
GCSE.
1:10:54
Honestly,
1:10:55
as
1:10:55
somebody
1:10:56
who
1:10:56
has,
1:10:56
like,
1:10:56
been
1:10:56
through
1:10:57
the
1:10:57
process,
1:10:58
yes.
1:10:59
The
1:10:59
only
1:10:59
possible
1:11:00
exception
1:11:00
is
1:11:00
maths,
1:11:01
where
1:11:01
realistically,
1:11:02
you
1:11:02
kind
1:11:03
of
1:11:03
need
1:11:03
a
1:11:03
baseline
1:11:04
of
1:11:04
maths
1:11:04
before
1:11:04
you
1:11:05
go
1:11:05
into
1:11:05
GCSE
1:11:06
maths,
1:11:06
but
1:11:07
you
1:11:07
don't
1:11:08
need
1:11:08
to
1:11:09
do
1:11:09
formalized
1:11:09
learning
1:11:10
for
1:11:10
any
1:11:10
subjects
1:11:11
before
1:11:12
you
1:11:12
actually
1:11:12
try
1:11:13
to
1:11:13
get
1:11:13
a
1:11:13
qualification
1:11:13
in
1:11:14
it.
1:11:14
You
1:11:14
really
1:11:14
don't.
1:11:15
It's.
1:11:15
It's
1:11:16
all
1:11:16
that
1:11:16
school
1:11:17
does.
1:11:17
The
1:11:17
reason
1:11:17
they
1:11:18
teach
1:11:18
repeated
1:11:19
lessons
1:11:19
again
1:11:19
and
1:11:19
again
1:11:20
from
1:11:20
the
1:11:20
age
1:11:20
of,
1:11:21
like,
1:11:21
3
1:11:22
to
1:11:22
the
1:11:22
age
1:11:22
of,
1:11:23
say,
1:11:23
14.
1:11:24
When
1:11:24
they
1:11:24
choose
1:11:24
GCSEs
1:11:25
is
1:11:26
partly
1:11:26
because
1:11:26
they
1:11:27
need
1:11:27
to
1:11:27
keep
1:11:27
the
1:11:27
child
1:11:27
in
1:11:28
the
1:11:28
school
1:11:28
so
1:11:28
that
1:11:28
the
1:11:29
parents
1:11:29
can
1:11:29
go
1:11:29
to
1:11:29
work.
1:11:30
So
1:11:30
partly
1:11:30
it's
1:11:31
kind
1:11:31
of
1:11:31
like
1:11:31
warehousing,
1:11:32
but
1:11:32
partly
1:11:33
as
1:11:33
well,
1:11:33
it's
1:11:33
just
1:11:33
to
1:11:34
get
1:11:34
the
1:11:34
child
1:11:34
used
1:11:35
to
1:11:35
concentrating,
1:11:36
sitting,
1:11:37
focusing,
1:11:38
writing,
1:11:38
reading.
1:11:39
Now,
1:11:40
these
1:11:40
are
1:11:40
all
1:11:40
skills
1:11:40
that
1:11:40
you
1:11:41
can
1:11:41
do.
1:11:42
Reading,
1:11:42
Harry
1:11:43
Potter,
1:11:43
writing,
1:11:44
shopping
1:11:45
lists.
1:11:45
You
1:11:46
don't
1:11:46
have
1:11:46
to
1:11:46
do
1:11:46
it
1:11:47
based
1:11:47
on
1:11:47
algebra
1:11:48
or
1:11:49
the
1:11:49
water
1:11:49
cycle
1:11:50
or
1:11:50
whatever.
1:11:51
You.
1:11:51
You
1:11:51
can
1:11:52
build
1:11:52
up
1:11:52
those
1:11:52
skills,
1:11:53
those
1:11:53
study
1:11:54
skills
1:11:54
in.
1:11:55
In
1:11:55
all
1:11:55
sorts
1:11:55
of
1:11:56
more
1:11:56
fun
1:11:56
ways
1:11:57
that
1:11:57
are
1:11:57
engaging
1:11:57
and
1:11:57
you're
1:11:58
still
1:11:58
building
1:11:58
that
1:11:59
muscle.
1:11:59
It's
1:12:00
like,
1:12:00
if
1:12:00
you
1:12:00
want
1:12:00
to.
1:12:00
If
1:12:01
you
1:12:01
want
1:12:01
to
1:12:02
build
1:12:02
a
1:12:02
muscle
1:12:03
in
1:12:03
your
1:12:03
body,
1:12:03
you
1:12:04
can
1:12:04
go
1:12:04
to
1:12:04
the
1:12:04
gym
1:12:04
and
1:12:04
just
1:12:05
do
1:12:05
repeated
1:12:05
weights,
1:12:05
or
1:12:06
you
1:12:06
can
1:12:06
do
1:12:07
like
1:12:07
an
1:12:07
assault
1:12:08
course
1:12:08
in
1:12:08
the
1:12:08
park.
1:12:09
You're
1:12:09
still
1:12:09
building
1:12:09
a
1:12:10
muscle,
1:12:10
but
1:12:10
you're
1:12:10
doing
1:12:10
it
1:12:10
in
1:12:10
a
1:12:11
really
1:12:11
different
1:12:11
way.
1:12:11
One
1:12:11
is
1:12:12
really
1:12:12
fun
1:12:12
and
1:12:13
group,
1:12:14
like,
1:12:14
group
1:12:14
activity,
1:12:15
and
1:12:16
the
1:12:16
other
1:12:16
is
1:12:16
a
1:12:16
very
1:12:17
solo,
1:12:17
kind
1:12:17
of
1:12:17
repetitive
1:12:18
thing
1:12:18
and
1:12:18
you
1:12:18
get
1:12:19
to
1:12:19
choose
1:12:19
which
1:12:19
works,
1:12:19
works
1:12:20
for
1:12:20
you.
1:12:20
That's
1:12:20
a
1:12:21
really
1:12:21
reassuring
1:12:21
way
1:12:22
to
1:12:22
look
1:12:23
at
1:12:23
it
1:12:23
that
1:12:23
I
1:12:24
had
1:12:24
not
1:12:24
thought.
1:12:25
So
1:12:25
that's.
1:12:25
That's
1:12:26
nice
1:12:26
to
1:12:26
hear.
1:12:28
GCSEs
1:12:29
and
1:12:29
things.
1:12:29
I
1:12:30
know
1:12:30
yours
1:12:31
have
1:12:31
gone
1:12:31
through
1:12:32
lots,
1:12:32
lots
1:12:33
of
1:12:33
them,
1:12:33
and
1:12:33
you've
1:12:33
spread
1:12:34
them
1:12:34
out.
1:12:34
I
1:12:35
think
1:12:35
my
1:12:35
other
1:12:35
half
1:12:35
is
1:12:36
thinking
1:12:36
that
1:12:37
she'd
1:12:37
go
1:12:37
to
1:12:37
school
1:12:38
for
1:12:38
high
1:12:38
school.
1:12:39
And
1:12:39
I
1:12:39
am
1:12:40
secretly
1:12:40
thinking
1:12:41
that
1:12:42
we
1:12:42
won't
1:12:42
be
1:12:42
going
1:12:43
into
1:12:43
high
1:12:44
school,
1:12:44
but
1:12:44
let's
1:12:45
say
1:12:45
that
1:12:45
we
1:12:45
do
1:12:46
do
1:12:46
that
1:12:46
at
1:12:46
home.
1:12:47
I've
1:12:48
seen
1:12:48
that
1:12:49
varying
1:12:50
elements
1:12:50
of
1:12:51
people
1:12:51
say
1:12:51
they're
1:12:52
quite
1:12:52
expensive.
1:12:52
Some
1:12:53
people
1:12:53
can
1:12:53
say
1:12:53
you
1:12:53
can.
1:12:54
Some
1:12:55
people
1:12:55
that
1:12:55
you
1:12:55
can
1:12:56
do
1:12:56
it
1:12:56
a
1:12:57
bit
1:12:57
later.
1:12:57
You
1:12:57
can
1:12:58
go
1:12:58
at
1:12:58
like,
1:12:58
14,
1:12:59
is
1:12:59
it
1:12:59
to
1:13:00
colleges
1:13:01
and
1:13:01
try
1:13:01
and
1:13:02
do
1:13:02
it
1:13:02
that
1:13:02
way.
1:13:03
Do
1:13:03
you
1:13:03
have
1:13:03
a
1:13:03
rough
1:13:04
idea
1:13:04
of
1:13:04
what,
1:13:04
say,
1:13:05
an
1:13:05
average
1:13:05
GCSE
1:13:06
would
1:13:06
cost
1:13:06
in,
1:13:07
say,
1:13:07
English
1:13:08
or
1:13:08
maths?
1:13:09
Yeah,
1:13:10
I
1:13:10
have.
1:13:10
I
1:13:11
have
1:13:11
rough
1:13:11
and
1:13:11
exact
1:13:12
information
1:13:13
on
1:13:13
them.
1:13:14
I
1:13:14
wish
1:13:14
I
1:13:15
didn't
1:13:15
have
1:13:15
so
1:13:15
much
1:13:15
information
1:13:16
on
1:13:16
how
1:13:16
much
1:13:16
they
1:13:17
cost.
1:13:18
So
1:13:18
the
1:13:18
thing
1:13:19
is
1:13:19
that
1:13:20
school
1:13:20
is
1:13:20
really
1:13:20
expensive.
1:13:21
I
1:13:21
know
1:13:22
school
1:13:22
is
1:13:22
free,
1:13:22
but
1:13:22
it's
1:13:23
expensive,
1:13:23
right?
1:13:23
There's
1:13:24
uniforms
1:13:24
and
1:13:25
all
1:13:25
this
1:13:25
kind
1:13:25
of
1:13:25
stuff,
1:13:26
right?
1:13:26
So
1:13:26
school
1:13:26
is
1:13:26
not
1:13:27
a
1:13:27
free
1:13:27
option.
1:13:29
Now,
1:13:29
home
1:13:29
education
1:13:29
actually
1:13:30
is
1:13:30
a
1:13:30
completely
1:13:31
free
1:13:31
option,
1:13:32
so
1:13:32
you
1:13:33
can
1:13:33
save
1:13:34
your
1:13:34
money
1:13:34
for
1:13:35
your
1:13:35
GCSEs
1:13:36
as
1:13:36
you
1:13:36
go.
1:13:37
And
1:13:37
I'm
1:13:38
not
1:13:38
saying
1:13:38
that
1:13:38
from
1:13:38
a
1:13:39
point
1:13:39
of
1:13:39
entitlement
1:13:39
or
1:13:40
privilege.
1:13:40
I'm
1:13:40
saying
1:13:40
that
1:13:41
in
1:13:41
the
1:13:41
money
1:13:41
that
1:13:42
you
1:13:42
would
1:13:42
save
1:13:42
from
1:13:42
not
1:13:43
having
1:13:43
to
1:13:43
do
1:13:43
the
1:13:43
school
1:13:44
trips
1:13:44
or
1:13:44
do
1:13:44
the
1:13:45
school
1:13:45
uniforms
1:13:45
or
1:13:46
the
1:13:46
pack
1:13:46
lunches
1:13:46
or
1:13:47
whatever.
1:13:47
You
1:13:47
actually
1:13:48
can
1:13:48
use
1:13:48
that
1:13:49
money
1:13:49
to
1:13:49
save
1:13:49
towards
1:13:49
GCSEs.
1:13:50
So
1:13:50
that's
1:13:51
one
1:13:51
thing
1:13:51
I
1:13:51
would
1:13:51
just
1:13:51
say
1:13:52
there,
1:13:52
GCSes,
1:13:53
you
1:13:53
can
1:13:53
also
1:13:54
spread
1:13:54
out.
1:13:54
So
1:13:54
I.
1:13:54
We
1:13:55
did
1:13:55
two
1:13:55
or
1:13:55
three
1:13:56
a
1:13:56
year
1:13:57
over
1:13:58
from
1:13:58
when
1:13:58
my
1:13:59
children
1:13:59
were
1:13:59
13,
1:14:00
and
1:14:00
there's
1:14:01
two
1:14:01
sittings
1:14:01
a
1:14:01
year,
1:14:02
so
1:14:02
we
1:14:02
did
1:14:03
two
1:14:03
sit,
1:14:03
so
1:14:03
that's
1:14:04
six,
1:14:04
six,
1:14:05
13,
1:14:05
14,
1:14:06
15,
1:14:06
four
1:14:07
years
1:14:07
and
1:14:07
two
1:14:08
sittings.
1:14:08
So
1:14:09
that's
1:14:09
about
1:14:09
eight,
1:14:10
eight
1:14:10
rounds
1:14:11
of
1:14:11
them.
1:14:11
Now,
1:14:12
my
1:14:12
daughter
1:14:12
didn't
1:14:12
do
1:14:13
a
1:14:13
GCSE.
1:14:13
She
1:14:13
did
1:14:14
seven.
1:14:14
Because
1:14:14
you
1:14:15
actually
1:14:15
only
1:14:15
really
1:14:15
need
1:14:16
seven.
1:14:16
Oxford
1:14:16
and
1:14:17
Cambridge
1:14:17
only
1:14:17
want
1:14:17
seven.
1:14:18
You
1:14:18
don't
1:14:18
need.
1:14:18
I
1:14:18
think
1:14:18
Imperial
1:14:19
want
1:14:19
eight,
1:14:19
but
1:14:20
generally
1:14:20
you
1:14:20
don't
1:14:20
need
1:14:21
to
1:14:21
do
1:14:21
as
1:14:21
many
1:14:21
as
1:14:21
my
1:14:21
son
1:14:22
did.
1:14:22
So
1:14:23
you
1:14:23
don't
1:14:23
have
1:14:23
to
1:14:23
do
1:14:23
that
1:14:24
many
1:14:24
either.
1:14:24
So
1:14:25
bear
1:14:25
that
1:14:25
in
1:14:25
mind.
1:14:25
You
1:14:26
don't
1:14:26
have
1:14:26
to
1:14:26
do
1:14:26
loads.
1:14:27
But
1:14:27
a
1:14:27
cost
1:14:28
of
1:14:28
a
1:14:28
GCSE
1:14:28
is
1:14:29
around
1:14:29
about
1:14:29
£250.
1:14:32
Sometimes
1:14:32
it's
1:14:33
a
1:14:33
bit
1:14:33
more,
1:14:33
sometimes
1:14:34
it's
1:14:34
a
1:14:34
bit
1:14:34
less.
1:14:35
But
1:14:35
if
1:14:35
that.
1:14:35
If
1:14:36
250
1:14:36
to
1:14:37
300
1:14:37
is
1:14:37
your
1:14:38
kind
1:14:38
of
1:14:38
average
1:14:39
ballpark
1:14:40
figure,
1:14:40
then
1:14:40
you
1:14:40
know
1:14:40
what
1:14:40
to
1:14:41
expect.
1:14:41
That's
1:14:41
for
1:14:41
the
1:14:42
GCSE.
1:14:42
So
1:14:43
if
1:14:43
you're
1:14:43
doing
1:14:44
English
1:14:44
language,
1:14:44
you
1:14:45
might
1:14:45
have
1:14:45
two
1:14:45
papers
1:14:46
to
1:14:46
sit
1:14:47
and
1:14:48
you
1:14:48
pay
1:14:48
your
1:14:48
£250
1:14:49
and
1:14:50
you
1:14:50
get
1:14:50
your
1:14:51
both
1:14:51
papers,
1:14:52
both
1:14:52
exams,
1:14:53
and
1:14:53
you
1:14:53
get
1:14:53
your
1:14:53
certificate
1:14:54
at
1:14:54
the
1:14:54
end
1:14:54
of
1:14:54
it,
1:14:55
saying,
1:14:55
here's
1:14:56
your
1:14:56
English
1:14:57
language
1:14:57
GCSE,
1:14:58
so
1:14:59
about
1:14:59
£250,
1:15:00
and
1:15:00
you
1:15:00
need
1:15:00
to
1:15:01
do
1:15:01
it
1:15:01
at
1:15:01
a
1:15:01
private
1:15:01
exam
1:15:02
centre,
1:15:02
unless
1:15:02
your
1:15:03
local
1:15:03
school
1:15:03
will
1:15:03
allow
1:15:04
you
1:15:04
to
1:15:04
go
1:15:04
to
1:15:04
them,
1:15:05
in
1:15:05
which
1:15:05
case
1:15:05
you
1:15:05
have
1:15:06
to
1:15:06
do
1:15:06
the
1:15:06
exams
1:15:06
that
1:15:06
they're
1:15:07
doing
1:15:07
generally.
1:15:08
Right,
1:15:08
okay.
1:15:08
But
1:15:09
what
1:15:09
if
1:15:09
it
1:15:09
was
1:15:10
a
1:15:10
course
1:15:11
like
1:15:11
science
1:15:12
that
1:15:12
needed
1:15:13
coursework
1:15:13
and
1:15:14
things
1:15:14
like
1:15:14
that
1:15:14
involved
1:15:15
in
1:15:15
the
1:15:15
gcse?
1:15:16
That's
1:15:17
an
1:15:17
excellent
1:15:17
question.
1:15:18
That's
1:15:18
a
1:15:18
very
1:15:18
good
1:15:19
question
1:15:19
based
1:15:20
on
1:15:20
your
1:15:21
podcast
1:15:22
knowledge.
1:15:23
So
1:15:23
that
1:15:24
is
1:15:24
a
1:15:24
very
1:15:24
good
1:15:24
question.
1:15:25
And
1:15:26
I
1:15:26
have
1:15:26
done
1:15:26
a
1:15:26
podcast
1:15:27
all
1:15:27
about
1:15:27
exams
1:15:28
which
1:15:28
will
1:15:28
help
1:15:29
with
1:15:29
that.
1:15:30
Basically,
1:15:31
science
1:15:31
exams,
1:15:32
you
1:15:32
do
1:15:32
what
1:15:32
are
1:15:32
called
1:15:33
IGCSEs,
1:15:34
which
1:15:34
are
1:15:34
international
1:15:34
GCSEs,
1:15:35
because
1:15:35
they
1:15:35
don't
1:15:36
have
1:15:36
coursework
1:15:37
or
1:15:38
practicals
1:15:38
as
1:15:39
part
1:15:39
of
1:15:39
them.
1:15:39
International
1:15:40
GCSEs?
1:15:41
Exactly.
1:15:41
Equate
1:15:41
across
1:15:42
to
1:15:42
GCSEs,
1:15:43
they're
1:15:43
exactly
1:15:43
the
1:15:44
same.
1:15:44
It's
1:15:44
just
1:15:45
that
1:15:45
international
1:15:45
GCSEs
1:15:46
are
1:15:46
done
1:15:47
normally
1:15:48
by
1:15:48
private
1:15:48
schools
1:15:49
in
1:15:49
the
1:15:49
UK
1:15:49
or
1:15:50
international
1:15:50
schools
1:15:51
abroad,
1:15:51
where
1:15:52
it's
1:15:52
much
1:15:52
harder
1:15:53
for
1:15:53
them
1:15:53
to
1:15:53
have
1:15:53
the
1:15:53
practicals
1:15:54
assessed
1:15:54
by
1:15:55
Cambridge
1:15:56
assessors
1:15:56
or
1:15:57
whoever's
1:15:57
Edexcel
1:15:58
assessors
1:15:58
or
1:15:58
whatever.
1:15:59
So
1:16:00
you
1:16:00
would
1:16:01
Just
1:16:01
do.
1:16:01
For
1:16:01
some
1:16:01
subjects,
1:16:02
you
1:16:02
would
1:16:02
do
1:16:02
IGCSEs
1:16:03
and
1:16:04
then
1:16:04
you
1:16:04
can
1:16:04
choose
1:16:05
if
1:16:05
you
1:16:05
do
1:16:05
GCSE
1:16:06
or
1:16:06
igcse.
1:16:07
For
1:16:07
the
1:16:07
others,
1:16:07
for
1:16:07
example,
1:16:08
maths,
1:16:08
you
1:16:08
can
1:16:09
do
1:16:09
GCSE
1:16:09
or
1:16:09
igcse.
1:16:11
Most
1:16:11
home
1:16:11
educators
1:16:12
do
1:16:12
edexcel.
1:16:14
Igcse,
1:16:15
I
1:16:15
think
1:16:15
it
1:16:15
is.
1:16:17
And
1:16:17
for
1:16:17
science,
1:16:17
you
1:16:18
would
1:16:18
definitely
1:16:18
want
1:16:18
to
1:16:18
do
1:16:19
igcse
1:16:19
because
1:16:20
there's
1:16:20
no
1:16:20
practicals
1:16:21
for
1:16:21
English
1:16:21
language.
1:16:22
Most
1:16:23
home
1:16:23
educators
1:16:23
do
1:16:23
IGCSE
1:16:24
for
1:16:25
English
1:16:25
language
1:16:25
because
1:16:25
there
1:16:26
isn't
1:16:26
a
1:16:26
spoken
1:16:27
component.
1:16:28
But
1:16:28
you
1:16:28
can
1:16:28
do
1:16:29
GCSE
1:16:30
if
1:16:30
you
1:16:30
really
1:16:30
want
1:16:30
to,
1:16:31
but
1:16:31
you'd
1:16:31
have
1:16:31
to
1:16:31
find
1:16:31
an
1:16:32
exam
1:16:32
centre
1:16:32
that
1:16:33
did
1:16:33
the
1:16:34
spoken
1:16:34
component.
1:16:35
So
1:16:35
there's
1:16:35
all
1:16:35
sorts
1:16:35
of
1:16:36
ways
1:16:36
around
1:16:36
it.
1:16:36
There
1:16:36
are
1:16:36
some
1:16:37
GCSEs
1:16:37
that
1:16:38
are
1:16:38
really,
1:16:38
really,
1:16:39
really
1:16:39
hard
1:16:39
to
1:16:39
do
1:16:40
as
1:16:40
a
1:16:40
home
1:16:40
educator.
1:16:40
And
1:16:41
basically
1:16:41
you
1:16:41
can'
1:16:42
them.
1:16:43
And
1:16:43
they
1:16:44
are
1:16:44
things
1:16:44
like
1:16:45
PE
1:16:46
is
1:16:46
hard,
1:16:47
Art
1:16:47
is
1:16:47
quite
1:16:48
hard.
1:16:48
Things
1:16:48
like
1:16:48
dance,
1:16:49
drama,
1:16:49
they're
1:16:50
quite
1:16:50
hard
1:16:50
to
1:16:50
do
1:16:50
as
1:16:51
GCSEs.
1:16:51
They're
1:16:51
not
1:16:52
completely
1:16:52
impossible,
1:16:53
but
1:16:53
they're
1:16:53
really,
1:16:53
really
1:16:53
very
1:16:54
difficult
1:16:54
to
1:16:54
do.
1:16:55
But
1:16:55
we.
1:16:56
We
1:16:56
have
1:16:56
so
1:16:57
many
1:16:57
more
1:16:57
options.
1:16:58
My
1:16:58
children
1:16:58
did
1:16:59
environmental
1:17:00
management,
1:17:01
statistics,
1:17:02
Classical
1:17:02
Civilization,
1:17:03
astronomy,
1:17:04
economics.
1:17:05
All
1:17:05
of
1:17:05
these
1:17:06
are
1:17:06
not
1:17:06
standard
1:17:07
GCSES
1:17:07
in
1:17:07
most
1:17:08
schools,
1:17:08
and
1:17:08
yet
1:17:08
we
1:17:09
could
1:17:09
choose
1:17:09
them.
1:17:09
My
1:17:09
daughter
1:17:10
did
1:17:10
travel
1:17:10
and
1:17:10
tourism
1:17:11
business
1:17:11
studies.
1:17:12
There
1:17:12
are
1:17:13
a
1:17:13
lot
1:17:13
of
1:17:13
really
1:17:14
fun
1:17:14
GCSes,
1:17:15
actually,
1:17:15
that
1:17:16
you
1:17:16
don't
1:17:16
hear
1:17:16
about
1:17:17
because
1:17:17
the
1:17:17
schools
1:17:18
don't
1:17:18
offer
1:17:18
them.
1:17:19
All
1:17:19
right.
1:17:19
No,
1:17:19
I
1:17:19
didn't.
1:17:20
I
1:17:20
thought
1:17:20
they
1:17:20
were
1:17:20
later
1:17:20
on
1:17:21
those
1:17:21
kind
1:17:21
of
1:17:22
courses.
1:17:22
No,
1:17:23
no.
1:17:23
God
1:17:23
giveth
1:17:24
and
1:17:24
God
1:17:24
taketh
1:17:25
away
1:17:25
when
1:17:25
it
1:17:25
comes
1:17:25
to
1:17:25
home
1:17:26
education.
1:17:26
So
1:17:26
you
1:17:26
can't
1:17:27
do
1:17:27
pe,
1:17:27
but
1:17:27
you
1:17:27
can
1:17:27
do
1:17:27
Classical
1:17:28
Civilization.
1:17:29
There
1:17:30
it
1:17:30
is.
1:17:30
Right.
1:17:31
Okay.
1:17:31
That's
1:17:31
great
1:17:32
to
1:17:32
know.
1:17:32
Has
1:17:33
that
1:17:33
covered
1:17:33
everything
1:17:33
for
1:17:34
you?
1:17:34
I
1:17:34
think
1:17:34
so.
1:17:35
How
1:17:36
are
1:17:36
you
1:17:36
feeling
1:17:36
now
1:17:37
about
1:17:37
the
1:17:37
whole
1:17:37
thing?
1:17:40
As
1:17:40
I've
1:17:40
said
1:17:40
to
1:17:40
my
1:17:41
husband,
1:17:42
there's
1:17:42
a
1:17:42
million
1:17:42
and
1:17:43
one
1:17:43
reasons
1:17:43
why
1:17:44
it
1:17:44
would
1:17:44
be
1:17:45
much
1:17:45
easier
1:17:45
to
1:17:45
just
1:17:45
leave
1:17:46
things
1:17:46
as
1:17:46
they
1:17:47
are.
1:17:48
But
1:17:48
this
1:17:48
is
1:17:49
the
1:17:49
thing
1:17:49
that
1:17:50
every
1:17:50
day
1:17:51
I
1:17:51
wake
1:17:52
up
1:17:52
and
1:17:52
think,
1:17:52
I
1:17:52
can't
1:17:53
wait
1:17:53
to
1:17:53
do
1:17:53
it.
1:17:53
I
1:17:54
cannot
1:17:55
wait
1:17:55
to
1:17:55
go
1:17:56
on
1:17:56
this
1:17:56
learning
1:17:56
journey
1:17:57
with
1:17:57
it.
1:17:58
I
1:17:58
think
1:17:58
I'm
1:17:58
quite
1:17:59
excited,
1:18:00
if
1:18:00
anything,
1:18:00
to
1:18:01
do
1:18:02
it.
1:18:02
I'm
1:18:02
scared
1:18:02
as
1:18:02
well,
1:18:03
in
1:18:03
equal
1:18:03
measures.
1:18:04
But
1:18:04
I
1:18:05
am
1:18:05
excited
1:18:06
to
1:18:06
see
1:18:07
the
1:18:08
freedom
1:18:08
that
1:18:08
she
1:18:08
will
1:18:08
have
1:18:09
to
1:18:09
be
1:18:09
able
1:18:09
to
1:18:10
take
1:18:12
all
1:18:12
of
1:18:12
them
1:18:12
out
1:18:13
on
1:18:13
day
1:18:13
trips
1:18:14
when
1:18:14
it's
1:18:14
quiet
1:18:15
and
1:18:15
it's
1:18:15
not
1:18:15
too
1:18:16
overwhelming
1:18:16
for
1:18:16
everybody.
1:18:17
And
1:18:17
to
1:18:18
have
1:18:18
the
1:18:18
freedom
1:18:18
and
1:18:18
the
1:18:18
time
1:18:19
to
1:18:20
be
1:18:20
with
1:18:21
her
1:18:21
and
1:18:22
to
1:18:22
not
1:18:22
feel
1:18:23
like,
1:18:24
you
1:18:24
know,
1:18:24
she's
1:18:25
bonding
1:18:25
with
1:18:25
her
1:18:25
peers
1:18:26
and
1:18:26
losing
1:18:26
the
1:18:27
bond
1:18:27
with
1:18:27
us,
1:18:27
which
1:18:28
I
1:18:28
think
1:18:28
I'm
1:18:29
finding
1:18:29
the
1:18:30
Old.
1:18:30
The
1:18:30
older
1:18:30
she
1:18:31
gets.
1:18:31
I
1:18:31
think
1:18:31
it's.
1:18:33
It's
1:18:33
going
1:18:33
to
1:18:34
be
1:18:34
great.
1:18:34
I
1:18:34
hope.
1:18:36
I'm
1:18:36
sure
1:18:36
it
1:18:36
will
1:18:36
be.
1:18:37
And,
1:18:37
you
1:18:37
know,
1:18:37
you
1:18:37
said
1:18:38
at
1:18:38
the
1:18:38
start
1:18:38
about
1:18:38
how
1:18:39
you
1:18:39
felt
1:18:39
like
1:18:39
you
1:18:39
were
1:18:39
kind
1:18:40
of
1:18:40
losing
1:18:40
her
1:18:40
and
1:18:41
that
1:18:41
you
1:18:41
could
1:18:42
see
1:18:42
that
1:18:42
light
1:18:42
going.
1:18:43
I
1:18:44
hear
1:18:44
that
1:18:44
so
1:18:44
often.
1:18:45
I
1:18:45
hear
1:18:46
that
1:18:46
so
1:18:46
often.
1:18:46
That's
1:18:47
probably
1:18:47
the
1:18:47
primary
1:18:48
reason
1:18:48
I
1:18:48
hear
1:18:48
people
1:18:49
pulling
1:18:49
their
1:18:49
children
1:18:49
out
1:18:50
is
1:18:50
they
1:18:50
feel
1:18:50
like
1:18:50
they're
1:18:50
losing
1:18:51
them
1:18:51
somehow,
1:18:51
like
1:18:52
they're
1:18:52
not
1:18:52
themselves
1:18:53
anymore
1:18:53
and
1:18:53
they're.
1:18:53
They're
1:18:54
losing
1:18:54
that
1:18:54
kind
1:18:54
of
1:18:55
light
1:18:55
in
1:18:55
their
1:18:55
eyes.
1:18:56
And
1:18:56
I
1:18:56
think
1:18:57
that
1:18:57
if
1:18:57
you
1:18:58
do
1:18:58
nothing
1:18:58
more
1:18:59
than
1:18:59
get
1:18:59
that
1:18:59
back.
1:19:01
Success.
1:19:02
Yeah,
1:19:02
exactly.
1:19:03
Because
1:19:03
I
1:19:03
understand
1:19:04
that
1:19:04
some
1:19:04
people
1:19:05
listening
1:19:06
or,
1:19:06
you
1:19:06
know,
1:19:06
family
1:19:07
and
1:19:07
friends
1:19:07
might
1:19:07
think,
1:19:08
oh,
1:19:08
she's
1:19:08
just,
1:19:09
you
1:19:09
know,
1:19:09
she's
1:19:09
one
1:19:09
of
1:19:09
those
1:19:10
needy
1:19:10
mums
1:19:10
and
1:19:11
she
1:19:11
wants
1:19:11
her
1:19:11
kids
1:19:12
to
1:19:12
be,
1:19:12
you
1:19:13
know,
1:19:13
under
1:19:14
the
1:19:14
wings
1:19:14
forever
1:19:14
and
1:19:15
never
1:19:15
grow
1:19:15
up.
1:19:15
But
1:19:16
it
1:19:16
isn't
1:19:16
that
1:19:17
I'm
1:19:17
happy
1:19:18
to
1:19:18
see
1:19:18
her
1:19:18
to
1:19:19
grow
1:19:19
and
1:19:19
to
1:19:19
become
1:19:19
her
1:19:20
independent,
1:19:21
but
1:19:21
I.
1:19:21
I
1:19:22
want
1:19:22
it
1:19:22
to
1:19:22
be
1:19:23
that
1:19:23
she's
1:19:24
happy
1:19:24
to
1:19:25
do
1:19:25
it
1:19:25
and
1:19:25
she's
1:19:26
growing
1:19:27
at
1:19:27
the
1:19:27
rate
1:19:27
that
1:19:28
she
1:19:28
wants
1:19:28
to.
1:19:28
You
1:19:28
know,
1:19:28
she
1:19:29
wants
1:19:29
to
1:19:29
play
1:19:29
with
1:19:29
her
1:19:29
dolls
1:19:30
and
1:19:30
things
1:19:30
at
1:19:30
the
1:19:30
moment,
1:19:30
whereas
1:19:31
all
1:19:31
of
1:19:31
her
1:19:31
friends
1:19:32
at
1:19:32
school,
1:19:32
the
1:19:33
girls
1:19:33
have
1:19:33
got
1:19:33
their
1:19:33
own
1:19:34
mobiles
1:19:34
and
1:19:35
they
1:19:35
think
1:19:35
that
1:19:35
toys
1:19:36
are
1:19:36
silly
1:19:36
and
1:19:36
they
1:19:36
don't
1:19:37
get
1:19:37
toys
1:19:37
for
1:19:37
presents
1:19:37
anymore.
1:19:38
And
1:19:38
I
1:19:39
think
1:19:39
that's
1:19:39
tragic.
1:19:40
You
1:19:40
know,
1:19:40
I
1:19:40
see
1:19:41
her,
1:19:42
you
1:19:42
know,
1:19:43
I
1:19:43
get
1:19:43
pictures
1:19:43
when
1:19:43
I'm
1:19:43
at
1:19:43
work,
1:19:44
my
1:19:44
husband's.
1:19:44
They're
1:19:44
all
1:19:45
playing
1:19:45
in
1:19:45
the
1:19:45
sand
1:19:45
pit
1:19:45
together
1:19:46
and,
1:19:46
you
1:19:46
know,
1:19:46
they're
1:19:46
eight,
1:19:46
four
1:19:47
on
1:19:47
one.
1:19:47
But
1:19:47
there's
1:19:48
so
1:19:48
much,
1:19:49
much
1:19:49
play
1:19:49
and
1:19:50
joy
1:19:50
that.
1:19:51
And
1:19:51
I
1:19:51
think
1:19:53
this
1:19:53
is
1:19:53
just
1:19:53
my
1:19:54
perception,
1:19:54
but
1:19:55
I
1:19:55
think
1:19:55
school
1:19:56
speeds
1:19:57
that
1:19:57
up
1:19:57
way
1:19:58
too
1:19:58
fast
1:19:58
and
1:19:58
they.
1:19:59
They
1:19:59
just
1:19:59
lose
1:19:59
the
1:20:00
play
1:20:00
and
1:20:00
the
1:20:00
childhood
1:20:01
elements
1:20:02
far
1:20:03
too
1:20:03
quick.
1:20:03
And
1:20:03
they're
1:20:04
worried
1:20:04
about,
1:20:04
oh,
1:20:04
I
1:20:05
look
1:20:05
fat
1:20:05
in
1:20:05
the
1:20:05
skirt,
1:20:06
or
1:20:06
I'm,
1:20:06
you
1:20:07
know,
1:20:07
how
1:20:07
do
1:20:07
I
1:20:07
have
1:20:07
my
1:20:08
hair
1:20:08
to
1:20:08
match
1:20:08
the
1:20:08
other
1:20:08
girls
1:20:09
and
1:20:09
just
1:20:09
crap
1:20:10
that
1:20:10
I
1:20:10
just
1:20:10
don't
1:20:11
want
1:20:11
her
1:20:11
to
1:20:11
get
1:20:12
into
1:20:12
yet.
1:20:13
I
1:20:13
know
1:20:13
I
1:20:14
can't
1:20:14
stop
1:20:14
it
1:20:14
forever,
1:20:14
and
1:20:14
I'm
1:20:15
not
1:20:15
trying
1:20:15
to
1:20:15
control
1:20:16
it,
1:20:16
but
1:20:17
just
1:20:17
to
1:20:17
slow
1:20:18
it
1:20:18
down
1:20:18
a
1:20:18
little
1:20:18
bit.
1:20:19
Well,
1:20:19
also,
1:20:19
you
1:20:20
can.
1:20:20
You
1:20:21
can
1:20:21
press
1:20:21
pause
1:20:22
on
1:20:22
that
1:20:22
until
1:20:22
she
1:20:23
knows
1:20:23
who
1:20:24
she
1:20:24
is
1:20:24
herself
1:20:24
and
1:20:25
then
1:20:25
she
1:20:25
can
1:20:25
make
1:20:25
a
1:20:25
decision
1:20:26
about
1:20:26
that.
1:20:26
When
1:20:27
my
1:20:27
daughter
1:20:27
was
1:20:27
in
1:20:28
school
1:20:28
recently,
1:20:29
there
1:20:29
were
1:20:29
a
1:20:30
lot
1:20:30
of
1:20:30
girls
1:20:30
younger
1:20:31
than
1:20:31
her
1:20:31
who
1:20:32
she.
1:20:32
She
1:20:32
would
1:20:33
come
1:20:33
back
1:20:33
and
1:20:33
she
1:20:33
would
1:20:33
say,
1:20:33
oh,
1:20:34
you
1:20:34
know,
1:20:34
they,
1:20:34
like,
1:20:34
wear
1:20:34
so
1:20:35
much
1:20:35
makeup.
1:20:35
Like
1:20:35
they,
1:20:36
you
1:20:36
know,
1:20:36
like
1:20:36
really,
1:20:36
like
1:20:37
false.
1:20:37
False
1:20:38
eyelashes
1:20:38
and
1:20:39
stuff.
1:20:39
And
1:20:39
there
1:20:40
she
1:20:40
was,
1:20:40
sitting
1:20:40
in
1:20:41
the
1:20:41
physics
1:20:41
class.
1:20:41
Like
1:20:42
hand
1:20:42
shooting
1:20:43
up
1:20:43
to
1:20:43
answer
1:20:43
every
1:20:43
question.
1:20:44
And
1:20:44
it's.
1:20:45
And
1:20:45
there's
1:20:45
not
1:20:45
to
1:20:45
say
1:20:46
one
1:20:46
is
1:20:46
better
1:20:46
than
1:20:46
the
1:20:47
other,
1:20:47
but
1:20:48
she
1:20:48
was
1:20:48
still
1:20:48
so
1:20:49
engaged
1:20:49
with
1:20:49
her
1:20:49
learning
1:20:50
that
1:20:50
she
1:20:50
was
1:20:51
enthused
1:20:51
by
1:20:52
learning
1:20:53
the
1:20:53
other
1:20:53
girls
1:20:54
were
1:20:54
pretty
1:20:55
much
1:20:55
turned
1:20:55
off
1:20:55
and
1:20:55
they
1:20:55
were
1:20:56
thinking
1:20:56
more
1:20:56
about
1:20:56
how
1:20:57
they
1:20:57
look
1:20:57
and
1:20:57
how
1:20:57
they
1:20:58
fitted
1:20:58
in
1:20:58
and
1:20:58
things
1:20:59
like
1:20:59
that.
1:20:59
And
1:20:59
it
1:21:00
is
1:21:00
like
1:21:00
you
1:21:00
say,
1:21:00
there's
1:21:01
a
1:21:01
whole
1:21:01
lifetime
1:21:01
of
1:21:02
worrying
1:21:02
about
1:21:02
that
1:21:02
stuff
1:21:03
and
1:21:03
it's
1:21:03
a
1:21:03
shame
1:21:03
for
1:21:03
children
1:21:04
to
1:21:04
have
1:21:04
to
1:21:04
worry
1:21:04
about
1:21:05
it
1:21:05
early
1:21:05
on.
1:21:06
Whereas
1:21:06
because
1:21:07
my
1:21:07
daughter
1:21:07
went
1:21:07
to
1:21:07
school
1:21:07
later,
1:21:08
she
1:21:08
knew
1:21:09
that
1:21:09
that
1:21:09
wasn't
1:21:09
who
1:21:09
she
1:21:10
was.
1:21:10
So
1:21:10
she
1:21:10
didn't
1:21:10
feel
1:21:11
that
1:21:11
need
1:21:11
to.
1:21:12
You
1:21:12
have
1:21:12
to
1:21:12
conform
1:21:13
to
1:21:13
that
1:21:13
kind
1:21:13
of
1:21:13
big
1:21:14
society
1:21:14
pressure.
1:21:15
And
1:21:15
so
1:21:16
you're
1:21:16
allowing
1:21:16
your
1:21:17
daughter
1:21:17
to
1:21:17
have
1:21:17
that
1:21:18
time
1:21:18
to
1:21:18
be
1:21:19
who
1:21:19
she
1:21:19
wants
1:21:19
to
1:21:20
be
1:21:20
and
1:21:21
then
1:21:21
she
1:21:21
can
1:21:22
join
1:21:22
the
1:21:22
social
1:21:22
groups
1:21:23
and
1:21:23
be
1:21:23
herself
1:21:24
proudly.
1:21:25
Yeah,
1:21:25
yeah,
1:21:25
exactly.
1:21:26
I
1:21:26
mean,
1:21:27
I
1:21:27
don't
1:21:27
want
1:21:27
to
1:21:27
be
1:21:27
one
1:21:27
of
1:21:27
those
1:21:28
mums
1:21:28
who's
1:21:28
like
1:21:28
really
1:21:29
judge
1:21:29
you.
1:21:29
But
1:21:29
you
1:21:30
see
1:21:31
so
1:21:31
many
1:21:32
girls
1:21:32
who
1:21:32
are
1:21:33
just
1:21:33
high
1:21:33
school
1:21:34
age
1:21:34
and
1:21:35
you
1:21:35
know
1:21:35
they've
1:21:35
got
1:21:35
super
1:21:36
tiny
1:21:36
skirts,
1:21:36
which
1:21:37
I
1:21:37
know
1:21:37
we
1:21:37
all
1:21:37
rolled
1:21:37
our
1:21:37
skirts
1:21:38
but
1:21:38
like,
1:21:38
like
1:21:38
super
1:21:39
tiny
1:21:39
and
1:21:40
the
1:21:40
full
1:21:40
makeup,
1:21:41
the
1:21:41
full
1:21:41
hair
1:21:41
and
1:21:41
you
1:21:41
think
1:21:42
you
1:21:42
didn't
1:21:42
wake
1:21:42
up
1:21:42
like
1:21:43
that.
1:21:43
You
1:21:43
know,
1:21:43
you,
1:21:44
you
1:21:44
have
1:21:44
spent
1:21:45
a
1:21:45
lot
1:21:45
of
1:21:45
time
1:21:45
to.
1:21:46
And
1:21:46
they
1:21:46
look
1:21:47
beautiful,
1:21:47
don't
1:21:47
get
1:21:47
me
1:21:47
wrong.
1:21:48
But
1:21:48
really
1:21:49
I
1:21:49
don't
1:21:49
want
1:21:50
that
1:21:50
to
1:21:50
be
1:21:51
the
1:21:51
life
1:21:52
she
1:21:52
has,
1:21:52
that
1:21:52
she
1:21:53
has
1:21:53
to
1:21:53
get
1:21:54
that
1:21:54
dolled
1:21:54
up,
1:21:55
that,
1:21:55
that
1:21:55
picture
1:21:56
perfect
1:21:57
just
1:21:57
to
1:21:57
go
1:21:57
to
1:21:58
school.
1:21:58
I
1:21:58
want
1:21:58
her
1:21:58
to
1:21:59
just
1:21:59
be
1:21:59
herself.
1:22:00
And
1:22:01
I
1:22:01
think
1:22:01
that
1:22:02
there
1:22:02
is
1:22:02
that
1:22:02
so
1:22:03
much
1:22:03
pressure
1:22:03
that
1:22:03
they,
1:22:04
they
1:22:04
feel.
1:22:04
If
1:22:05
I
1:22:05
can
1:22:05
reduce
1:22:05
that
1:22:05
a
1:22:05
little
1:22:05
bit
1:22:06
for
1:22:06
us,
1:22:06
then
1:22:06
I
1:22:07
will.
1:22:08
And
1:22:08
really
1:22:09
that's
1:22:09
all
1:22:09
we
1:22:09
want
1:22:09
for.
1:22:10
Our
1:22:10
children,
1:22:10
isn't
1:22:10
it?
1:22:11
For
1:22:11
them
1:22:11
to
1:22:11
be
1:22:11
happy
1:22:12
and
1:22:12
for,
1:22:13
for
1:22:13
us
1:22:13
to
1:22:14
feel
1:22:14
that
1:22:14
we're
1:22:14
giving
1:22:14
them
1:22:15
as
1:22:15
much
1:22:15
opportunity
1:22:16
as
1:22:16
we
1:22:16
can
1:22:17
whilst
1:22:18
protecting
1:22:18
their
1:22:19
well
1:22:19
being
1:22:19
while
1:22:20
we
1:22:20
need
1:22:20
to
1:22:20
until
1:22:20
they
1:22:21
can
1:22:21
do
1:22:21
it
1:22:21
for
1:22:21
themselves.
1:22:22
Well,
1:22:22
okay,
1:22:23
Nicola,
1:22:23
I
1:22:23
feel
1:22:23
like
1:22:24
I've
1:22:24
answered
1:22:24
all
1:22:24
your
1:22:24
questions.
1:22:25
I
1:22:25
hope
1:22:25
so.
1:22:25
If
1:22:26
there's
1:22:26
any
1:22:26
that
1:22:26
come
1:22:27
up
1:22:27
afterwards,
1:22:28
stick
1:22:28
them
1:22:28
in
1:22:28
one
1:22:28
of
1:22:29
the
1:22:29
comments
1:22:29
because
1:22:30
I've
1:22:30
come
1:22:30
on
1:22:30
answer
1:22:31
them
1:22:31
and
1:22:31
then
1:22:31
everyone
1:22:31
else
1:22:32
can
1:22:32
see
1:22:32
the
1:22:32
question
1:22:32
too.
1:22:33
But
1:22:33
if
1:22:33
anyone
1:22:33
listen,
1:22:34
listening
1:22:34
has,
1:22:35
I
1:22:36
don't
1:22:36
know,
1:22:36
answers
1:22:37
or
1:22:37
questions
1:22:38
or
1:22:38
anything
1:22:38
like
1:22:38
that,
1:22:39
answers
1:22:39
for
1:22:39
Nicola,
1:22:40
questions
1:22:40
for
1:22:40
me,
1:22:40
just
1:22:41
stick
1:22:41
them
1:22:41
in
1:22:41
the
1:22:41
comments
1:22:42
and
1:22:42
I
1:22:42
will
1:22:43
find
1:22:43
you
1:22:43
wherever
1:22:44
you
1:22:44
post
1:22:44
them,
1:22:45
hopefully
1:22:45
and
1:22:46
I
1:22:46
will
1:22:46
answer
1:22:46
them.
1:22:47
So
1:22:47
do
1:22:47
feel
1:22:48
free
1:22:48
to
1:22:48
interact
1:22:48
with
1:22:49
the
1:22:49
podcast
1:22:49
in
1:22:49
that
1:22:49
way.
1:22:50
We
1:22:50
also
1:22:50
have
1:22:50
a
1:22:50
Facebook
1:22:51
group
1:22:51
called
1:22:52
Home
1:22:52
Education
1:22:52
Matters
1:22:53
where
1:22:53
you
1:22:53
can
1:22:53
come
1:22:53
in
1:22:54
and
1:22:54
you
1:22:54
can
1:22:54
speak
1:22:54
to
1:22:54
any
1:22:54
of
1:22:55
the
1:22:55
previous
1:22:55
guests
1:22:56
and
1:22:56
you
1:22:57
can
1:22:57
speak
1:22:57
to
1:22:57
me.
1:22:57
And
1:22:58
it's
1:22:58
a
1:22:58
really
1:22:58
nice
1:22:59
little
1:22:59
Facebook
1:22:59
group,
1:23:00
very
1:23:00
small,
1:23:00
very
1:23:00
friendly.
1:23:01
And
1:23:02
yeah,
1:23:02
everyone
1:23:02
is
1:23:03
welcome
1:23:03
to
1:23:03
join
1:23:03
there
1:23:04
as
1:23:04
well,
1:23:04
whether
1:23:04
you're
1:23:05
home
1:23:05
educating
1:23:06
yet
1:23:06
or
1:23:06
not
1:23:06
or
1:23:07
not
1:23:07
yet.
1:23:07
Taking
1:23:08
the
1:23:08
plunge,
1:23:08
that
1:23:08
is.
1:23:09
That
1:23:09
is
1:23:09
fine.
1:23:10
Nicola,
1:23:10
thank
1:23:10
you
1:23:11
so
1:23:11
much
1:23:11
for
1:23:11
today.
1:23:11
I
1:23:12
hope
1:23:12
it
1:23:12
is
1:23:12
reassuring
1:23:13
and
1:23:13
I
1:23:13
look
1:23:13
forward
1:23:14
to
1:23:14
hearing
1:23:14
all
1:23:15
about
1:23:15
your
1:23:15
journey
1:23:16
as
1:23:16
it
1:23:16
goes
1:23:16
through.
1:23:17
Can
1:23:17
I
1:23:17
just
1:23:17
say
1:23:18
a
1:23:18
huge
1:23:18
thank
1:23:18
you,
1:23:19
not
1:23:19
just
1:23:19
for
1:23:19
today,
1:23:20
for
1:23:20
listening
1:23:20
to
1:23:20
me
1:23:21
yammer
1:23:21
on
1:23:21
an
1:23:22
hour
1:23:22
and
1:23:22
a
1:23:22
bit,
1:23:22
but
1:23:23
for
1:23:23
the
1:23:24
many,
1:23:24
many
1:23:25
hours
1:23:25
of
1:23:26
reassurance
1:23:27
that
1:23:27
you
1:23:27
have
1:23:27
given
1:23:28
through
1:23:28
this
1:23:28
podcast
1:23:29
that
1:23:29
is
1:23:29
absolutely
1:23:30
fantastic
1:23:31
resource
1:23:31
for
1:23:32
so
1:23:32
many
1:23:32
people
1:23:32
like
1:23:32
me
1:23:33
that
1:23:33
are
1:23:33
thinking
1:23:33
of
1:23:34
jumping
1:23:34
ship.
1:23:35
And
1:23:35
I,
1:23:36
I
1:23:36
know
1:23:36
it's
1:23:37
not
1:23:37
going
1:23:38
to
1:23:38
be
1:23:38
making
1:23:38
you
1:23:39
your
1:23:39
millions,
1:23:40
so.
1:23:41
Doesn't
1:23:41
make
1:23:41
me.
1:23:41
Doesn't
1:23:42
make
1:23:42
me
1:23:42
pennies,
1:23:42
Nicola,
1:23:44
because
1:23:44
it's.
1:23:44
Not
1:23:44
giving
1:23:45
you
1:23:45
the
1:23:45
financial
1:23:45
gain.
1:23:46
I
1:23:46
really
1:23:46
want
1:23:46
to
1:23:46
know
1:23:47
that.
1:23:47
It
1:23:47
is
1:23:47
massively
1:23:49
helping
1:23:49
people
1:23:49
like
1:23:50
me
1:23:50
and
1:23:50
I
1:23:50
hope
1:23:51
that
1:23:51
you
1:23:52
understand
1:23:52
how
1:23:52
much
1:23:53
I
1:23:53
appreciate
1:23:53
all
1:23:54
the
1:23:54
time
1:23:54
and
1:23:54
effort
1:23:54
you
1:23:54
put
1:23:55
in.
1:23:55
So
1:23:55
thank
1:23:55
you.
1:23:56
I
1:23:56
am
1:23:56
blushing.
1:23:57
Thank
1:23:57
you
1:23:57
very
1:23:57
much.
1:23:58
It's
1:23:58
really
1:23:58
nice
1:23:59
to
1:23:59
hear
1:23:59
that
1:23:59
because
1:23:59
I
1:24:00
put
1:24:00
these
1:24:00
episodes
1:24:00
out
1:24:01
and
1:24:01
I
1:24:01
just
1:24:01
kind
1:24:01
of
1:24:01
drop
1:24:02
them
1:24:02
into
1:24:02
the
1:24:02
ether
1:24:03
and
1:24:03
I
1:24:03
never
1:24:03
really
1:24:04
know.
1:24:04
I
1:24:04
see
1:24:04
all
1:24:04
the
1:24:04
figures
1:24:05
and
1:24:05
I'm
1:24:05
like,
1:24:05
wow,
1:24:05
there's
1:24:06
like
1:24:06
thousands
1:24:06
of
1:24:06
people
1:24:06
listening.
1:24:07
How
1:24:07
weird.
1:24:08
But
1:24:08
I
1:24:08
never
1:24:08
really
1:24:08
get
1:24:09
that
1:24:09
much
1:24:09
feedback,
1:24:10
so
1:24:10
it's
1:24:10
really
1:24:10
nice
1:24:10
to
1:24:11
hear
1:24:11
that
1:24:11
because
1:24:11
sometimes
1:24:12
you're
1:24:12
not
1:24:12
really
1:24:13
sure.
1:24:14
I
1:24:14
mean,
1:24:15
all
1:24:15
these
1:24:15
people
1:24:16
are
1:24:16
listening,
1:24:16
but
1:24:16
are
1:24:17
they
1:24:17
liking
1:24:17
it
1:24:17
or
1:24:17
are
1:24:18
they
1:24:18
just
1:24:18
listening?
1:24:19
I
1:24:19
don't
1:24:19
know.
1:24:19
I
1:24:19
assure
1:24:20
you
1:24:20
they
1:24:20
are
1:24:20
liking
1:24:20
it.
1:24:21
And
1:24:21
you
1:24:21
know,
1:24:21
from.
1:24:22
For
1:24:22
me,
1:24:22
when
1:24:23
there's
1:24:23
so
1:24:23
many
1:24:23
people
1:24:23
online
1:24:24
that
1:24:24
you
1:24:24
can
1:24:25
follow
1:24:25
from
1:24:25
all
1:24:25
over
1:24:26
the
1:24:26
world,
1:24:26
you
1:24:26
don't
1:24:27
know
1:24:27
who
1:24:27
to
1:24:27
trust.
1:24:28
But
1:24:28
I've
1:24:28
listened
1:24:28
to
1:24:29
lots
1:24:29
of
1:24:29
different
1:24:29
people
1:24:30
and
1:24:30
you're
1:24:30
the
1:24:30
one
1:24:30
who
1:24:31
decided
1:24:31
to
1:24:31
trust
1:24:32
because
1:24:32
I
1:24:32
think
1:24:33
to
1:24:33
me
1:24:33
you
1:24:33
seem
1:24:34
so
1:24:34
knowledgeable
1:24:35
and,
1:24:35
and
1:24:35
yeah,
1:24:36
you
1:24:36
might
1:24:36
not
1:24:36
be
1:24:36
an
1:24:36
expert
1:24:37
in
1:24:37
the
1:24:37
sense
1:24:37
that
1:24:38
people
1:24:38
might
1:24:38
say,
1:24:39
well,
1:24:39
why
1:24:39
should
1:24:39
you
1:24:39
give
1:24:39
me
1:24:39
an
1:24:40
opinion?
1:24:40
But
1:24:40
your
1:24:41
experience,
1:24:42
you
1:24:42
have
1:24:42
lived
1:24:43
it
1:24:43
and
1:24:43
that
1:24:43
is
1:24:43
far
1:24:43
more
1:24:44
important
1:24:44
to
1:24:45
me
1:24:45
than
1:24:45
anybody
1:24:46
with
1:24:46
a
1:24:46
qualification
1:24:47
in
1:24:47
this.
1:24:47
Just
1:24:48
the
1:24:48
fact
1:24:48
that
1:24:48
you've
1:24:48
lived
1:24:49
it
1:24:49
and
1:24:49
done
1:24:49
so
1:24:50
well
1:24:50
with
1:24:50
your
1:24:50
children
1:24:51
is
1:24:52
fantastic
1:24:53
for
1:24:53
me.
1:24:53
So
1:24:53
thank
1:24:54
you.
1:24:54
Thank
1:24:54
you,
1:24:54
Nicola,
1:24:55
that's
1:24:55
very
1:24:55
sweet.
1:24:56
I
1:24:56
can't
1:24:56
take
1:24:56
hardly
1:24:57
any
1:24:57
credit
1:24:57
for
1:24:57
my
1:24:58
children,
1:24:58
though,
1:24:58
because
1:24:59
they're
1:24:59
just.
1:24:59
They're
1:25:00
just
1:25:00
like
1:25:00
wonders
1:25:00
in
1:25:00
their
1:25:01
own
1:25:01
right.
1:25:01
But
1:25:01
thank
1:25:01
you
1:25:02
so
1:25:02
much.
1:25:02
It
1:25:02
was
1:25:02
really
1:25:03
lovely
1:25:03
having
1:25:03
you
1:25:03
on
1:25:04
and
1:25:04
do
1:25:04
keep
1:25:04
me
1:25:05
posted
1:25:05
on
1:25:06
how
1:25:06
you're
1:25:06
doing
1:25:06
and
1:25:07
maybe
1:25:07
we
1:25:07
can
1:25:07
have
1:25:07
you
1:25:07
back
1:25:07
on
1:25:07
in,
1:25:08
like,
1:25:08
six
1:25:08
months
1:25:08
and
1:25:08
see
1:25:08
how
1:25:09
you're
1:25:09
getting
1:25:09
on.
1:25:09
That
1:25:09
would
1:25:09
be
1:25:09
fun.
1:25:10
Lovely.
1:25:10
I'd
1:25:11
love
1:25:11
that.
1:25:11
Thank
1:25:11
you.
1:25:11
All
1:25:11
right.
1:25:12
Lovely
1:25:13
to
1:25:13
meet
1:25:13
you.
1:25:14
Thank
1:25:14
you
1:25:15
so
1:25:15
much
1:25:15
for
1:25:15
joining
1:25:15
us
1:25:15
for
1:25:16
today's
1:25:16
Home
1:25:16
Education
1:25:16
Matters
1:25:17
podcast.
1:25:18
See
1:25:18
you
1:25:18
at
1:25:18
the
1:25:18
next
1:25:18
one.
1:25:19
Have
1:25:19
a
1:25:19
lovely
1:25:19
day.