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Democrats Double Down on Trans Athletes Ahead of Midterms · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 4: Good Thursday morning. Nice have you with us on the
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  Speaker 4: forty seven Morning Update, And we've got one big story
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  Speaker 4: for you. The Supreme Court may have ruled to protect
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  Speaker 4: women's sports, but now we're finding out what Democrats plan
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  Speaker 4: to do next and it's going to be central to
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  Speaker 4: their midterm election strategy. Get ready for another fight? All right?
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  Speaker 3: Story number one.
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  Speaker 4: The Supreme Court, they may have settled one legal question,
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  Speaker 4: but politically, we're now seeing exactly what the Democrats are
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  Speaker 4: ready to do when it comes to allowing men in
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  Speaker 4: women's sports. Now, the Supreme Court ruled that states like
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  Speaker 4: Idaho and West Virginia can in fact enforce laws preventing
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  Speaker 4: transgender girls from competing in girls' sports, and Democrats, well,
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  Speaker 4: they immediately began making it clear they've got no intention
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  Speaker 4: of backing down. Instead, now they're preparing to make it
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  Speaker 4: one of their main defining issues heading into the midterm
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  Speaker 4: election cycle. JD. Pritzker saying this on CNN about the Rulingprome.
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  Speaker 1: Court also today allowed states to ban transgender athletes from
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  Speaker 1: joining women's and girls teams. Do you think the Court
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  Speaker 1: was right on that or do you think they were wrong?
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  Speaker 5: Well, look, we believe that people have a right to
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  Speaker 5: live the life that they were born to the life
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  Speaker 5: that they want to and in Illinois anyway, we protect
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  Speaker 5: LGBTQ plus rights, we protect trans kids. Remember in Illinois
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  Speaker 5: trans athletes. We literally in high school have three trans athletes.
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  Speaker 5: We have one hundred and thirty three thousand athletes in
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  Speaker 5: total in our high schools, and three of them are trans.
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  Speaker 5: Why is the Republican Party focusing on this issue? Why
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  Speaker 5: have they passed laws in I think twenty seven states
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  Speaker 5: that have restricted or banned outright trans kids being athletes
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  Speaker 5: in schools. It seems to me like, you know, they're
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  Speaker 5: just again, they're trying to foment on an issue that frankly,
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  Speaker 5: I think we ought to be talking about bigger things.
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  Speaker 5: I know, in the state of Illinois we have much
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  Speaker 5: bigger challenges as they do all across the country, with
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  Speaker 5: things like they've cut snap benefits, they've cut Medicaid, they've
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  Speaker 5: made life harder for people, raised prices. These are all
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  Speaker 5: things that we're having to deal with in our states,
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  Speaker 5: and they're trying to distract with something that has very
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  Speaker 5: little impact.
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  Speaker 4: Not to be clear, Dady Prinsker is saying that somehow
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  Speaker 4: Republicans are the ones that did this, even though it
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  Speaker 4: was Democrats that were allowing boys in women's sports. Then
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  Speaker 4: he says it's nothing but a distraction and he wasn't
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  Speaker 4: done there. He also again laying the groundwork for what
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  Speaker 4: Democrats truly believe in, and that is destroying women in
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  Speaker 4: the games that they play and the scholarships that they
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  Speaker 4: receive and the awards they receive.
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  Speaker 1: But Republicans are using it in political campaigns, political messaging
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  Speaker 1: on the issue itself, do you think the court was right?
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  Speaker 5: I think that we ought to be protecting trans kids,
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  Speaker 5: So you think they were think, I can tell you
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  Speaker 5: this that those trans kids, you know, I'm sure you've
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  Speaker 5: seen the statistics that depression and other mental health challenges
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  Speaker 5: are following these kids because of the way they're being
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  Speaker 5: treated in some communities. We ought to be sympathizing with
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  Speaker 5: the parents. We ought to be trying to help them
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  Speaker 5: help their children and not putting barriers in the way
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  Speaker 5: of children just being hits.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and Justice Kavanaugh was writing that he doesn't think
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  Speaker 1: that transgender athletes should be vilified or ostracized. When you
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  Speaker 1: look at the numbers, though, there was a Reuter's IPSOS
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  Speaker 1: poll that found that sixty seven percent of Americans agree
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  Speaker 1: with the transgender athlete ban. Do you find yourself in
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  Speaker 1: agreement with those sixty seven percent of Americans?
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  Speaker 5: I think that, first of all, this is a decision
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  Speaker 5: that gets made by a family. That's a decision that's
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  Speaker 5: been handled by schools and school districts for a number
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  Speaker 5: of years. Now, I think we had to let it
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  Speaker 5: happen at the local level as it has been. The
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  Speaker 5: three in Illinois have been just fine.
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  Speaker 4: Isn't it interesting how Democrats use this issue and pushed
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  Speaker 4: this issue and demanded this issue, and now they're trying
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  Speaker 4: to downplay it while also making it a very clear
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  Speaker 4: central point going into the mid terms. Now, for Republicans,
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  Speaker 4: this decision represents years of well campaigning and fighting and
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  Speaker 4: finally it paid off. Donald Trump made protecting women in
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  Speaker 4: sports a signature issue because of people like Pritzker. Now,
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  Speaker 4: let's be clear, when Donald Trump was running, he said,
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  Speaker 4: not only am I going to sign executive actions, not
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  Speaker 4: only am I going to pressure athletic organizations, but I'm
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  Speaker 4: also going to make the logical argument that biological women
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  Speaker 4: deserve a level playing field. More than half the states,
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  Speaker 4: and you heard JB talk about this just a second ago,
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  Speaker 4: more than half of the country has already passed laws
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  Speaker 4: that were then up for grabs with a Supreme Court
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  Speaker 4: banning men from competing in women's sports. Now, the political
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  Speaker 4: battle is now going to move to the campaign trail.
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  Speaker 4: Democratic leaders and activist organizations. They're already out there arguing
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  Speaker 4: and targeting the very small number they say have transgender
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  Speaker 4: student athletes. Well, it is discrimination and the treatment of
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  Speaker 4: transgender youth is terrible, even though this law and the
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  Speaker 4: Supreme Court ruling has nothing to do with how you
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  Speaker 4: actually treat a person. They're also promising to continue the
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  Speaker 4: legal challenges everywhere they can. Now support of the ruling
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  Speaker 4: is also well, very different. Many conservatives say this is
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  Speaker 4: a victory for common sense because you should absolutely protect
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  Speaker 4: women's sports. There should be fairness in athletics, and they
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  Speaker 4: point to all of the scholarships, what President Trump did well,
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  Speaker 4: the roster spots, the championships, the athletic record books that
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  Speaker 4: are changed when a man competes with women and biological differences.
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  Speaker 4: It matters in competitive sports, and that's exactly why this
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  Speaker 4: made it all the way to the Supreme Court. But
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  Speaker 4: to be clear, what democrats are now going to do
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  Speaker 4: is they're going to say that you've dehumanized trans athletes.
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  Speaker 4: If you want to start a trans league, you can
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  Speaker 4: absolutely do it. No one is stopping you. Yes, trans
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  Speaker 4: athletes can compete, but women should not be forced to
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  Speaker 4: compete with men. Now, I want to take you back
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  Speaker 4: to some of the arguments that were made the first case.
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  Speaker 4: I was there for those oral arguments dealt with Idaho,
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  Speaker 4: and I want you to hear the back and forth
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  Speaker 4: of what actually happened and why the court got to
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  Speaker 4: the decision they have. Right now, you'll cut this part up.
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  Speaker 6: Idaho's law classifies on the basis of sex because sex
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  Speaker 6: is what matters in sports. It correlates strongly with countless
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  Speaker 6: athletic advantages like size, muscle mass, bone mass, and heart
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  Speaker 6: and lung capacity. Tragically, but not surprisingly, male athletes that
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  Speaker 6: you can injured female athletes in many sports. If women
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  Speaker 6: don't have their own competitions, they won't be able to compete.
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  Speaker 7: And I don't know how you can say sex classification
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  Speaker 7: is not being challenged. There's no question here that a
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  Speaker 7: male who identifies as a female, but it's a male
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  Speaker 7: who is being excluded from a female sport, correct, That's correct,
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  Speaker 7: all right, by its nature, that's his sex classification. In
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  Speaker 7: all sex classifications. We have said repeatedly in our case,
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  Speaker 7: law require intermediate scrutiny.
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  Speaker 8: They are an awful lot of female athletes who are
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  Speaker 8: strongly opposed to participation by trans athletes and competitions with them.
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  Speaker 8: What do you say about them? They Are they bigots?
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  Speaker 8: Are they diluted in thinking that they are subjected to
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  Speaker 8: unfair competition?
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  Speaker 5: No, your own I.
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  Speaker 8: Would never call anyone that.
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  Speaker 9: On the preliminary record in this case, and as the
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  Speaker 9: experts below agreed, circulating testosterone after puberty is the main
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  Speaker 9: determinant of sex based biological advantage that HB five hundred
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  Speaker 9: sought to address, and on this record, Lindsay Hecox has
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  Speaker 9: mitigated that advantage because she has suppressed her testosterone for
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  Speaker 9: over a year and taken estrogen. HB five hundred thus
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  Speaker 9: fails heightened scrutiny as a applied to Lindsay and transgender
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  Speaker 9: women like her who have no sex based biological advantage
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  Speaker 9: as compared to birth sex females.
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  Speaker 10: So it's going to come to this court and we
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  Speaker 10: have to decide for the whole country constitutionalize this. I
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  Speaker 10: guess given that half the states are allowing it, allowing
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  Speaker 10: transgender girls and women to participate in about half or not,
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  Speaker 10: why would we at this point, just the role of
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  Speaker 10: this court jump in and try to constitutionalize a rule
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  Speaker 10: for the whole country while they're still, as you say,
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  Speaker 10: uncertainty in debabe.
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  Speaker 4: So here's what we know from all of that back
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  Speaker 4: and forth. The Supreme Court justices came out and they
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  Speaker 4: said we must protect women's sports from men. Now, this
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  Speaker 4: is going to become a defining issue for the midterm elections.
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  Speaker 4: Elections are typically shaped by multiple factors, including the economy, immigration, inflation,
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  Speaker 4: and international events. But both parties here clearly see the
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  Speaker 4: transgender policy is an issue that energizes important parts of
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  Speaker 4: their base their coalitions. And one thing is actually certain
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  Speaker 4: now the Supreme Court issued it, truly, but the political debate,
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  Speaker 4: at least from the side of radical Democrats is only intensifying.
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