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- 0:00Foreign.
- 0:05Welcome
- 0:05back
- 0:05my
- 0:06friends,
- 0:06to
- 0:06another
- 0:06episode
- 0:07of
- 0:07Pearls
- 0:07and
- 0:08Prep
- 0:08npz.
- 0:09Here
- 0:09your
- 0:10preceptor
- 0:10in
- 0:11your
- 0:11pocket.
- 0:11Before
- 0:12we
- 0:12start
- 0:12the
- 0:12show,
- 0:12I
- 0:13highly
- 0:13encourage
- 0:14all
- 0:14of
- 0:14you
- 0:15to
- 0:16get
- 0:16into
- 0:16the
- 0:16show
- 0:16notes
- 0:17after
- 0:17this
- 0:18to
- 0:18find
- 0:18our
- 0:18Patreon
- 0:19page
- 0:19and
- 0:19become
- 0:20Patreon
- 0:20members.
- 0:21Why?
- 0:21Because
- 0:22you
- 0:22get
- 0:22beautiful
- 0:23slide
- 0:23decks
- 0:23full
- 0:23of
- 0:24amazing
- 0:24study
- 0:24materials
- 0:26that
- 0:26really
- 0:26makes
- 0:27all
- 0:27of
- 0:27this
- 0:27stuff
- 0:27click
- 0:28and
- 0:28make
- 0:28sense.
- 0:29It'll
- 0:29prepare
- 0:29you
- 0:29for
- 0:30boards,
- 0:30it'll
- 0:30empower
- 0:31you
- 0:31in
- 0:31your
- 0:31practice.
- 0:31You
- 0:32also
- 0:32get
- 0:32early
- 0:32episode
- 0:33drops,
- 0:34sometimes
- 0:34six
- 0:34months
- 0:35in
- 0:35advance
- 0:36that
- 0:36no
- 0:36one
- 0:36else
- 0:36gets.
- 0:37Without
- 0:37further
- 0:38ado,
- 0:38let's
- 0:38get
- 0:39into
- 0:39today's
- 0:39episode.
- 0:40So
- 0:41today
- 0:41we're
- 0:41going
- 0:41to
- 0:41talk
- 0:41about
- 0:42six
- 0:42pearls
- 0:43you
- 0:43need
- 0:43to
- 0:43know
- 0:44as
- 0:44it
- 0:44relates
- 0:44to
- 0:45major
- 0:45depressive
- 0:45disorder
- 0:46with
- 0:46psychotic
- 0:47features.
- 0:48This
- 0:48is
- 0:48a
- 0:49doozy.
- 0:49This
- 0:50is
- 0:51a
- 0:51very,
- 0:51very
- 0:52good
- 0:52one.
- 0:53So
- 0:54pearl
- 0:54number
- 0:55one
- 0:55is
- 0:55that
- 0:56depression
- 0:56with
- 0:57psychotic
- 0:57features
- 0:58is
- 0:59depression
- 1:00with
- 1:00a
- 1:00reality
- 1:01twist.
- 1:01It
- 1:01is
- 1:02more
- 1:03of
- 1:03a
- 1:04severe
- 1:04problem.
- 1:05Why?
- 1:05Because
- 1:05two
- 1:06times
- 1:06higher
- 1:06risk
- 1:07of
- 1:07relapse
- 1:08of
- 1:08depressive
- 1:09symptoms,
- 1:09the
- 1:10odds
- 1:10of
- 1:10hospitalization
- 1:11go
- 1:11up.
- 1:11The
- 1:11mortality
- 1:12risk
- 1:12goes
- 1:13up
- 1:13relative
- 1:14to
- 1:14non
- 1:14psychotic
- 1:15depression
- 1:15and
- 1:15that
- 1:15is
- 1:16specifically
- 1:16mortality
- 1:17as
- 1:17it
- 1:17relates
- 1:17to
- 1:18suicide,
- 1:18accidents
- 1:19and
- 1:19and
- 1:19cardiovascular
- 1:20disease.
- 1:20But
- 1:21all
- 1:21cause
- 1:21mortality
- 1:22spikes.
- 1:23When
- 1:23major
- 1:23depressive
- 1:24disorder
- 1:24with
- 1:24psychotic
- 1:25features
- 1:26is
- 1:26not
- 1:27all
- 1:27patients
- 1:29with
- 1:29MDD
- 1:29and
- 1:30psychosis
- 1:30need
- 1:31to
- 1:31be
- 1:31rushed
- 1:31to
- 1:31the
- 1:32er.
- 1:32That
- 1:33is
- 1:33definitely
- 1:33not
- 1:34the
- 1:34case.
- 1:34But
- 1:34as
- 1:35you
- 1:35will
- 1:35learn
- 1:35in
- 1:35our
- 1:36new
- 1:36pearls
- 1:37coming
- 1:37up
- 1:37here,
- 1:38this
- 1:38is
- 1:38just
- 1:38pearl
- 1:39number
- 1:39one
- 1:39of
- 1:39six.
- 1:40As
- 1:40we
- 1:40progress,
- 1:41you
- 1:41will
- 1:41see
- 1:41that
- 1:42maybe
- 1:42your
- 1:42patient
- 1:43does
- 1:43need
- 1:43to
- 1:43go
- 1:43to
- 1:43the
- 1:44hospital
- 1:44based
- 1:44on
- 1:45specific
- 1:45things
- 1:45you
- 1:46need
- 1:46to
- 1:46look
- 1:46for
- 1:47and
- 1:47ask
- 1:47about.
- 1:48But
- 1:48the
- 1:48first
- 1:48pearl
- 1:49you
- 1:49should
- 1:49recognize
- 1:50is
- 1:50that
- 1:50this
- 1:50is
- 1:50not
- 1:50your
- 1:51run
- 1:51of
- 1:51the
- 1:51mill
- 1:51depression.
- 1:52This
- 1:52changes
- 1:53the
- 1:53treatment
- 1:53algorithm,
- 1:54this
- 1:54changes
- 1:55your
- 1:55future
- 1:56decisions
- 1:56because
- 1:56it's
- 1:57more
- 1:57serious,
- 1:57right?
- 1:58The
- 1:58mortality
- 1:58risk,
- 1:59the
- 1:59hospitalization
- 2:00risk,
- 2:00the
- 2:00suicide
- 2:01risk,
- 2:02this
- 2:02is
- 2:02a
- 2:02bigger
- 2:03deal.
- 2:03So
- 2:03you
- 2:04have
- 2:04to
- 2:04be
- 2:04prepared
- 2:04with
- 2:04anyone
- 2:05who
- 2:05has
- 2:05depression
- 2:06period.
- 2:06But
- 2:06when
- 2:06there's
- 2:07psychotic
- 2:07features,
- 2:08definitely
- 2:09pause,
- 2:09take
- 2:09your
- 2:10time
- 2:10with
- 2:10the
- 2:10patient
- 2:11and
- 2:11assess
- 2:11things
- 2:12very
- 2:12carefully
- 2:12and
- 2:13clearly.
- 2:13And
- 2:14you
- 2:14know,
- 2:14in
- 2:14the
- 2:14event
- 2:15you
- 2:15ever
- 2:15want
- 2:15to
- 2:15tape
- 2:16your
- 2:16antidepressant
- 2:17in
- 2:17the
- 2:17future
- 2:17when
- 2:17the
- 2:18patient
- 2:18asks
- 2:18you,
- 2:18do
- 2:18I
- 2:19have
- 2:19to
- 2:19be
- 2:19on
- 2:19this
- 2:19medication
- 2:20for
- 2:20life?
- 2:20What
- 2:20does
- 2:20this
- 2:21look
- 2:21like?
- 2:21Well,
- 2:22definitely
- 2:22keep
- 2:22it
- 2:22in
- 2:22your
- 2:23back
- 2:23pocket
- 2:23and
- 2:24in
- 2:24your
- 2:24notes
- 2:24that
- 2:25this
- 2:25patient
- 2:25has
- 2:26psychosis
- 2:27associated
- 2:28with
- 2:28their
- 2:28depressive
- 2:28episode.
- 2:29So
- 2:29you
- 2:29have
- 2:29to
- 2:29weigh
- 2:30that
- 2:30when
- 2:30you
- 2:31eventually
- 2:31make
- 2:32the
- 2:32call,
- 2:33whether
- 2:33or
- 2:33not
- 2:33a
- 2:33patient
- 2:34is
- 2:34tapered
- 2:34down
- 2:35and
- 2:35that
- 2:35risk
- 2:36level,
- 2:36if
- 2:36they
- 2:36are
- 2:37tapered,
- 2:37of
- 2:38how
- 2:38severe
- 2:38their
- 2:39depression
- 2:39gets
- 2:40and
- 2:40what
- 2:40that
- 2:41looks
- 2:41like.
- 2:41So
- 2:41again,
- 2:41it's
- 2:42a
- 2:42very
- 2:42Important
- 2:43specifier
- 2:43in
- 2:43the
- 2:44DSM
- 2:445,
- 2:45you
- 2:45should
- 2:45use
- 2:46and
- 2:46highlight
- 2:47in
- 2:47the
- 2:47patient's
- 2:48chart
- 2:48if
- 2:48applicable,
- 2:49and
- 2:49use
- 2:49it
- 2:50to
- 2:50inform
- 2:50your
- 2:51diagnostics
- 2:51and
- 2:52your
- 2:52future
- 2:52treatment
- 2:52plan,
- 2:53because
- 2:53it
- 2:54is
- 2:54definitely
- 2:54a
- 2:54very
- 2:55big
- 2:55deal.
- 2:55Now,
- 2:56the
- 2:56second
- 2:56pearl
- 2:57I
- 2:57want
- 2:57you
- 2:57to
- 2:57think
- 2:58about
- 2:59is
- 2:59distinguishing
- 3:00between
- 3:00mood
- 3:01congruent
- 3:01and
- 3:01mood
- 3:02incongruent
- 3:02psychosis.
- 3:03Now,
- 3:03this
- 3:03is
- 3:03an
- 3:04actual
- 3:04specifier
- 3:04in
- 3:05the
- 3:05DSM
- 3:06where
- 3:06you
- 3:06have
- 3:06to
- 3:07specify
- 3:07if
- 3:08their
- 3:08psychosis
- 3:09is
- 3:09mood
- 3:09congruent
- 3:09or
- 3:10mood
- 3:10incongruent.
- 3:11Mood
- 3:12congruent,
- 3:12a
- 3:12form
- 3:12of
- 3:12psychosis
- 3:13would
- 3:14be
- 3:14somebody
- 3:14who's
- 3:14already
- 3:15depressed.
- 3:15Your
- 3:15patient's
- 3:16depressed,
- 3:16and
- 3:17they
- 3:18are
- 3:18starting
- 3:18to
- 3:19have
- 3:20maybe
- 3:21nihilistic
- 3:22delusions
- 3:23where
- 3:24they
- 3:24feel
- 3:24like
- 3:24they're
- 3:24rotting
- 3:25from
- 3:25the
- 3:25inside
- 3:26and
- 3:26that
- 3:27they're
- 3:27already
- 3:27dead.
- 3:28That
- 3:29would
- 3:29be
- 3:29a
- 3:29mood
- 3:30congruent
- 3:30psychotic
- 3:31feature.
- 3:32It's
- 3:32consistent
- 3:33with
- 3:33their
- 3:33mood.
- 3:33It's
- 3:34kind
- 3:34of
- 3:34down
- 3:34morose,
- 3:35nihilistic,
- 3:36death
- 3:36oriented.
- 3:37That's
- 3:37more
- 3:38mood
- 3:38congruent.
- 3:39You
- 3:39can
- 3:39specify
- 3:40in
- 3:40the
- 3:41DSM
- 3:42whether
- 3:42it's
- 3:42mood
- 3:43congruent
- 3:43or
- 3:43mood
- 3:44incongruent.
- 3:44Now,
- 3:44a
- 3:44mood
- 3:45incongruent
- 3:46psychotic
- 3:46theme
- 3:47would
- 3:47be
- 3:47a
- 3:48patient
- 3:48who
- 3:48thinks
- 3:48aliens
- 3:49control
- 3:49them.
- 3:49Right?
- 3:50It
- 3:50doesn't
- 3:50really
- 3:50have
- 3:50a
- 3:51whole
- 3:51lot
- 3:51to
- 3:51do
- 3:52with
- 3:52the
- 3:52guilt
- 3:54or
- 3:54the
- 3:54nihilism
- 3:55or
- 3:56death
- 3:56themes
- 3:57in
- 3:57classical
- 3:58depression.
- 3:58This
- 3:59is
- 3:59a
- 3:59little
- 3:59bit
- 3:59off
- 3:59the
- 3:59beaten
- 4:00path,
- 4:00right?
- 4:00It's
- 4:00like,
- 4:00where
- 4:01did
- 4:01aliens
- 4:01come
- 4:01from?
- 4:02Where
- 4:02did
- 4:02the
- 4:02FBI
- 4:02putting
- 4:03a
- 4:03chip
- 4:03in
- 4:03my
- 4:03brain
- 4:04come
- 4:04from?
- 4:04It's
- 4:05not
- 4:05exactly
- 4:05congruent
- 4:06with
- 4:06a
- 4:07guilty,
- 4:07sad,
- 4:07morose,
- 4:08death
- 4:09content
- 4:09type
- 4:10of
- 4:10depression
- 4:10that
- 4:10you
- 4:11would
- 4:11see.
- 4:11So
- 4:11it's
- 4:12again,
- 4:12the
- 4:12words
- 4:13mean
- 4:13what
- 4:13they
- 4:13mean,
- 4:13which
- 4:13is
- 4:14very
- 4:14helpful.
- 4:15So
- 4:15anytime
- 4:15you
- 4:16have
- 4:16a
- 4:16patient
- 4:16who
- 4:16meets
- 4:17major
- 4:17depressive
- 4:17criteria
- 4:18and
- 4:18they
- 4:19have
- 4:19psychosis,
- 4:20whether
- 4:20it
- 4:20be
- 4:20a
- 4:20delusion,
- 4:21whether
- 4:21it
- 4:21be
- 4:21a
- 4:21hallucination,
- 4:22auditory
- 4:23or
- 4:23visual,
- 4:23you
- 4:24can
- 4:24specify
- 4:24it
- 4:24with
- 4:25mood
- 4:25congruent
- 4:26or
- 4:26mood
- 4:26incongruent.
- 4:27And
- 4:27that's
- 4:27your
- 4:27second
- 4:28pearl
- 4:29today.
- 4:30Okay,
- 4:31now
- 4:32for
- 4:32the
- 4:32third
- 4:33pearl.
- 4:33It's
- 4:34important
- 4:34that
- 4:34you
- 4:35focus
- 4:35on
- 4:36three
- 4:36things
- 4:36when
- 4:37your
- 4:37patient
- 4:37has
- 4:38psychosis
- 4:39mixed
- 4:39in
- 4:39with
- 4:39their
- 4:40major
- 4:40depressive
- 4:41disorder.
- 4:42First
- 4:42of
- 4:42all,
- 4:42any
- 4:43patient
- 4:43who's
- 4:43ever
- 4:43coming
- 4:44into
- 4:44your
- 4:44office
- 4:44who
- 4:45has
- 4:45any
- 4:45form
- 4:45of
- 4:46hallucination
- 4:47or
- 4:47delusion,
- 4:48you
- 4:48want
- 4:48to
- 4:48ask,
- 4:49are
- 4:49your
- 4:50voices,
- 4:51what
- 4:51are
- 4:51they
- 4:51telling
- 4:51you
- 4:52to
- 4:52do?
- 4:52Are
- 4:52they
- 4:52telling
- 4:52you
- 4:53to
- 4:53harm
- 4:53yourself?
- 4:54Are
- 4:54they
- 4:54encouraging
- 4:55you
- 4:55to
- 4:55run
- 4:56into
- 4:56traffic
- 4:56or
- 4:56to
- 4:57do
- 4:57dangerous
- 4:57things,
- 4:57Right?
- 4:58So
- 4:58you
- 4:58have
- 4:58to
- 4:59get
- 4:59like
- 4:59a
- 4:59detective,
- 5:00a
- 5:00really
- 5:01good
- 5:01report,
- 5:01almost
- 5:02like
- 5:02a
- 5:02police
- 5:02report.
- 5:03Obviously,
- 5:03don't
- 5:04tell
- 5:04your
- 5:04patient
- 5:05or
- 5:05pretend
- 5:05you're
- 5:06the
- 5:06police
- 5:06if
- 5:06the
- 5:06patient's
- 5:07already
- 5:07having
- 5:07persecutory
- 5:08delusions
- 5:08here,
- 5:09be
- 5:09like
- 5:10a
- 5:10really
- 5:10diligent
- 5:11FBI
- 5:11agent
- 5:13that
- 5:14is
- 5:15making
- 5:15sure
- 5:16that
- 5:16the
- 5:16content
- 5:16of
- 5:17what
- 5:17they're
- 5:17hearing
- 5:17or
- 5:18seeing
- 5:18or
- 5:19what
- 5:19they
- 5:19believe
- 5:19in
- 5:19the
- 5:20form
- 5:20of
- 5:20a
- 5:20delusion
- 5:20is
- 5:21not
- 5:21something
- 5:21that
- 5:22that
- 5:22could
- 5:22potentially
- 5:23lead
- 5:23them
- 5:23into
- 5:24harm's
- 5:24way
- 5:25where
- 5:25they
- 5:25refuse
- 5:26to
- 5:26eat,
- 5:26they
- 5:26refuse
- 5:27to
- 5:27drink,
- 5:27they're
- 5:27running
- 5:27into
- 5:28traffic,
- 5:28they
- 5:29believe
- 5:29someone's
- 5:29out
- 5:29to
- 5:29hurt
- 5:30them
- 5:30or
- 5:30someone
- 5:30they
- 5:30love.
- 5:31Because
- 5:31remember,
- 5:31if
- 5:32you
- 5:32actually
- 5:32believe
- 5:33those
- 5:33things,
- 5:33you
- 5:33might
- 5:34take
- 5:34specific
- 5:35actions
- 5:35and
- 5:35precautions
- 5:36to
- 5:36protect
- 5:37yourself
- 5:37or
- 5:37others,
- 5:38which
- 5:38could
- 5:39result
- 5:39in
- 5:39something
- 5:39violent
- 5:40or
- 5:40harmful.
- 5:41This
- 5:41is
- 5:41an
- 5:41emergency,
- 5:42right?
- 5:42You
- 5:43don't
- 5:43need
- 5:43to
- 5:43wheel
- 5:43in
- 5:43the
- 5:43stretcher
- 5:44and
- 5:44go
- 5:44straight
- 5:44to
- 5:44the
- 5:45ER
- 5:45the
- 5:45second
- 5:45you
- 5:46see
- 5:46psychosis
- 5:46in
- 5:46your
- 5:46office,
- 5:47you
- 5:47may
- 5:48find
- 5:48that
- 5:48the
- 5:48psychosis
- 5:49is
- 5:49isolated.
- 5:49It's
- 5:50not
- 5:50happening
- 5:50in
- 5:50the
- 5:50office,
- 5:51but
- 5:51it's
- 5:51happening
- 5:52in
- 5:52the
- 5:52wee
- 5:52hours
- 5:52of
- 5:53the
- 5:53night.
- 5:53It's
- 5:54happening
- 5:54only
- 5:54twice
- 5:55a
- 5:55week,
- 5:55right?
- 5:56It's
- 5:56not
- 5:56like
- 5:56the
- 5:56patient's
- 5:57gonna
- 5:57be
- 5:57completely
- 5:58psychotic
- 5:58in
- 5:59your
- 5:59office.
- 6:00You
- 6:00need
- 6:01to
- 6:01be
- 6:01a
- 6:01detective
- 6:01here,
- 6:01and
- 6:02you
- 6:02need
- 6:02to
- 6:02understand,
- 6:03does
- 6:03this
- 6:04accompany
- 6:04suicidal
- 6:05ideation
- 6:06command
- 6:06hallucinations,
- 6:07and
- 6:07is
- 6:07this
- 6:08affecting
- 6:08the
- 6:09patient's
- 6:09overall
- 6:09functioning?
- 6:10In
- 6:10other
- 6:10words,
- 6:10if
- 6:10the
- 6:10patient
- 6:11leaves
- 6:11my
- 6:11office
- 6:12right
- 6:12now,
- 6:12will
- 6:13they
- 6:13be
- 6:13able
- 6:13to
- 6:13properly
- 6:14take
- 6:14care
- 6:14of
- 6:14themselves?
- 6:15Very
- 6:16important,
- 6:17right?
- 6:17And
- 6:18I
- 6:18just
- 6:18can't
- 6:18stress
- 6:19that
- 6:19enough
- 6:19because
- 6:20think
- 6:20about
- 6:20it,
- 6:21my
- 6:21friends.
- 6:21Think
- 6:22about
- 6:22it
- 6:22without
- 6:22overthinking
- 6:23about
- 6:23it,
- 6:23right?
- 6:24If
- 6:24you
- 6:24have
- 6:25a
- 6:25fixed
- 6:25false
- 6:26belief
- 6:27that
- 6:28aliens
- 6:28are
- 6:29about
- 6:29to
- 6:29harm
- 6:29you.
- 6:30No,
- 6:30no,
- 6:30no,
- 6:31no.
- 6:31Imagine
- 6:32if
- 6:32you
- 6:32actually
- 6:32believe
- 6:33that
- 6:33aliens
- 6:34were
- 6:34out
- 6:34to
- 6:34kill
- 6:34you
- 6:35on
- 6:35your
- 6:35way
- 6:36home
- 6:36from
- 6:36work.
- 6:37You're
- 6:37gonna
- 6:37speed
- 6:38home,
- 6:39you're
- 6:39going
- 6:39to
- 6:39make
- 6:40unsafe
- 6:40maneuvers
- 6:41on
- 6:41the
- 6:41highway,
- 6:41potentially.
- 6:42You
- 6:43may
- 6:43not
- 6:43talk
- 6:43to
- 6:44certain
- 6:44people
- 6:44who
- 6:44you
- 6:44believe
- 6:45are
- 6:45aliens
- 6:45and
- 6:46you
- 6:46may
- 6:46even
- 6:46want
- 6:46to
- 6:46harm
- 6:47them
- 6:47because
- 6:48you
- 6:48believe
- 6:48you
- 6:48are
- 6:49under
- 6:49direct
- 6:49threat.
- 6:50So
- 6:50again,
- 6:50when
- 6:51we
- 6:51say
- 6:51psychosis,
- 6:52them
- 6:52is
- 6:52fighting
- 6:53words,
- 6:53my
- 6:53friends.
- 6:54Those
- 6:54is
- 6:54fighting
- 6:55words.
- 6:55Think
- 6:55about
- 6:56all
- 6:56the
- 6:56potential
- 6:56manifestations
- 6:57of
- 6:58a
- 6:58fixed
- 6:58false
- 6:58belief,
- 6:59like
- 6:59a
- 6:59delusion
- 7:00or
- 7:00hallucination.
- 7:01Think
- 7:01about
- 7:01how
- 7:02disorienting
- 7:02that
- 7:03is.
- 7:03Think
- 7:03about
- 7:03how
- 7:04hard
- 7:04it
- 7:04is
- 7:04to
- 7:04even
- 7:04eat
- 7:05a
- 7:05cheeseburger
- 7:05while
- 7:06you're
- 7:06being
- 7:06taunted
- 7:07by
- 7:07and
- 7:07auditory
- 7:08hallucination.
- 7:10This
- 7:10is
- 7:10real
- 7:10deal
- 7:11stuff.
- 7:11It
- 7:11comes
- 7:11with
- 7:12real
- 7:12statistical
- 7:13increases
- 7:13in
- 7:13mortality
- 7:14and
- 7:15morbidity
- 7:15and
- 7:16a
- 7:16decline
- 7:16in
- 7:16functioning.
- 7:17So
- 7:17ask
- 7:18those
- 7:18safety
- 7:18questions
- 7:19and
- 7:19make
- 7:19sure
- 7:20that
- 7:21your
- 7:21patient
- 7:22is
- 7:23like,
- 7:23there's
- 7:24no
- 7:24stone
- 7:24unturned
- 7:25as
- 7:25it
- 7:25relates
- 7:25to
- 7:26these
- 7:26specific
- 7:27manifestations
- 7:28of
- 7:28their
- 7:28psychosis.
- 7:29Pearl
- 7:29number
- 7:30four,
- 7:30My
- 7:30friends,
- 7:31this
- 7:32is
- 7:32a
- 7:32diagnostic.
- 7:32Pearl.
- 7:33A
- 7:33little
- 7:33bit.
- 7:33And
- 7:33I'll
- 7:33be
- 7:34honest,
- 7:34as
- 7:34a
- 7:34student,
- 7:34it
- 7:35really
- 7:35confused
- 7:35me
- 7:36when
- 7:36you
- 7:37first
- 7:37see
- 7:37psychosis
- 7:38in
- 7:38your
- 7:38office,
- 7:39you're
- 7:39not
- 7:39gonna
- 7:40have
- 7:40some
- 7:40cheat
- 7:41sheet
- 7:41that
- 7:41says,
- 7:41oh,
- 7:42by
- 7:42the
- 7:42way,
- 7:43this
- 7:43is
- 7:43MDD
- 7:44with
- 7:45psychotic
- 7:46features,
- 7:47Mood
- 7:47congruent
- 7:48specifier.
- 7:49Like
- 7:49you're
- 7:49not
- 7:50gonna
- 7:50have
- 7:50the
- 7:50luxury
- 7:51of
- 7:51someone
- 7:52just
- 7:52telling
- 7:52you
- 7:52that
- 7:53and
- 7:53it
- 7:53very
- 7:53well
- 7:54may
- 7:54trip
- 7:54you
- 7:54up.
- 7:54And
- 7:55you
- 7:55might
- 7:55say,
- 7:55wait
- 7:55a
- 7:55minute,
- 7:56is
- 7:56this
- 7:56patient
- 7:56schizophrenic?
- 7:57Is
- 7:57this
- 7:58patient
- 7:58bipolar
- 7:59manic?
- 8:00Is
- 8:00this
- 8:00a
- 8:00delusional
- 8:01disorder?
- 8:01Or
- 8:02what
- 8:02am
- 8:02I
- 8:02looking
- 8:02at
- 8:02here?
- 8:02Is
- 8:03this
- 8:03substance
- 8:03induced?
- 8:04And
- 8:04of
- 8:04course
- 8:04you
- 8:05have
- 8:05to
- 8:05go
- 8:05through
- 8:05the
- 8:05motions
- 8:06and
- 8:06ask
- 8:06the
- 8:07questions,
- 8:07but
- 8:08again,
- 8:09what
- 8:09I
- 8:09always
- 8:09say
- 8:09is
- 8:10just
- 8:11think
- 8:11about
- 8:11it,
- 8:11but
- 8:12don't
- 8:12overthink
- 8:12it.
- 8:12If
- 8:13psychosis
- 8:13is
- 8:14happening
- 8:14only
- 8:15during
- 8:15the
- 8:15depressive
- 8:16episodes,
- 8:17you
- 8:18have
- 8:18MDD
- 8:18with
- 8:19psychotic
- 8:19features,
- 8:20right?
- 8:21If
- 8:21psychosis
- 8:21is
- 8:22only
- 8:22happening
- 8:23during
- 8:23the
- 8:23depression.
- 8:24But
- 8:24if
- 8:24psychosis
- 8:25is
- 8:26happening
- 8:26no
- 8:26matter
- 8:27what
- 8:27you
- 8:27feel,
- 8:28you
- 8:28could
- 8:28be
- 8:28totally
- 8:29not
- 8:29depressed
- 8:29anymore.
- 8:30Your
- 8:30depression's
- 8:30in
- 8:31remission,
- 8:31but
- 8:32you
- 8:32still
- 8:33have
- 8:33fixed
- 8:33false
- 8:34beliefs
- 8:34that
- 8:34the
- 8:35people
- 8:35at
- 8:35the
- 8:35dollar
- 8:35tree
- 8:36are
- 8:36trying
- 8:37to
- 8:37strangle
- 8:37you
- 8:38or
- 8:38that
- 8:39the
- 8:39ice
- 8:39cream
- 8:40man
- 8:41is
- 8:42giving
- 8:42you
- 8:42cyanide
- 8:44and
- 8:44you're
- 8:45not
- 8:45depressed,
- 8:46then
- 8:46you
- 8:46might
- 8:46have
- 8:47an
- 8:47independent
- 8:47schizoaffective
- 8:48or
- 8:48schizophrenic
- 8:49spectrum
- 8:50type
- 8:50disorder
- 8:51and
- 8:51that
- 8:51deserves
- 8:51its
- 8:52own
- 8:52workup.
- 8:53There's
- 8:53clusters
- 8:53of
- 8:54symptoms
- 8:54you
- 8:54have
- 8:54to
- 8:54look
- 8:54at
- 8:55there.
- 8:55Their
- 8:55ability
- 8:56to
- 8:56engage
- 8:56in
- 8:56self
- 8:57care,
- 8:57initiate
- 8:57conversations,
- 8:58organize
- 8:59themselves.
- 9:00Of
- 9:00course
- 9:00you
- 9:00have
- 9:00to
- 9:01assess
- 9:01substances
- 9:02and
- 9:02all
- 9:02that
- 9:02jazz.
- 9:03But
- 9:03my
- 9:04friends,
- 9:04it's
- 9:04very
- 9:05simple
- 9:05that
- 9:05if
- 9:06depression
- 9:07and
- 9:07if
- 9:07the
- 9:08psychosis
- 9:08is
- 9:08happening
- 9:09only
- 9:09during
- 9:09the
- 9:10depression,
- 9:11and
- 9:11you
- 9:11likely
- 9:11have
- 9:12MDD
- 9:12with
- 9:12psychotic
- 9:13features.
- 9:14Okay?
- 10:09If
- 10:09you
- 10:09have
- 10:09manic
- 10:10symptoms
- 10:10mixed
- 10:11in,
- 10:11don't
- 10:11overthink
- 9:17it.
- 10:12You
- 10:12guys
- 10:13know
- 10:13what
- 10:13mania
- 10:13looks
- 10:14like
- 10:14and
- 10:14feels
- 10:14like
- 10:15and
- 10:15sounds
- 10:15like,
- 10:16right?
- 10:16Maybe
- 10:16you
- 10:16don't
- 10:17know
- 10:17what
- 10:17it
- 10:17feels
- 10:17like.
- 10:17Sorry,
- 10:18but
- 10:18maybe
- 10:19you
- 10:19know
- 10:19what
- 10:19it
- 10:20looks
- 10:20like,
- 10:20right?
- 10:21You're
- 10:21overspending,
- 10:22you
- 10:23have
- 10:23grandiose
- 10:24thoughts,
- 10:25you
- 10:25feel
- 10:25euphoric
- 10:26or
- 10:26highly
- 10:26irritable,
- 10:27you
- 10:27can
- 10:27take
- 10:27on
- 10:27the
- 10:27world,
- 10:28you're
- 10:28promiscuous.
- 10:29All
- 10:29of
- 10:29the
- 10:29sudden,
- 10:30you're
- 10:30talking
- 10:30super
- 10:31fast,
- 10:31you're
- 10:31starting
- 10:32your
- 10:32own
- 10:32Soap
- 10:33Company
- 10:33at
- 10:332:30
- 10:33in
- 10:34the
- 10:34morning.
- 10:34Well,
- 10:35don't
- 10:35be
- 10:35confused
- 10:36because
- 10:36now
- 10:37you
- 10:37have
- 10:38more
- 10:38of
- 10:38a
- 10:38bipolar.
- 10:39And
- 10:39remember,
- 10:39if
- 10:39it's
- 10:40psychosis
- 10:40and
- 10:40bipolar,
- 10:41it's
- 10:41bipolar
- 10:41I.
- 10:42There
- 10:42is
- 10:42no
- 10:42such
- 10:42thing
- 10:42as
- 10:43bipolar
- 10:432
- 10:43with
- 10:44psychosis,
- 10:45so
- 10:45don't
- 10:45overthink
- 10:45it.
- 10:46If
- 10:46it
- 10:46smells
- 10:46like
- 10:46mania
- 10:47and
- 10:47you
- 10:47go
- 10:47down
- 10:47that
- 10:48rabbit
- 10:48hole
- 10:48and
- 10:48it
- 10:48sure
- 10:49enough
- 10:49is
- 10:49mania
- 10:50and
- 10:50they're
- 10:50meeting
- 10:50criteria,
- 10:51don't
- 10:51panic,
- 10:52don't
- 10:52get
- 10:52confused
- 10:53and
- 10:53say,
- 10:53what
- 10:53Is
- 10:53this.
- 10:53I
- 10:54thought
- 10:54this
- 10:54was
- 10:54depression.
- 10:55Again,
- 10:56assuming
- 10:56this
- 10:56isn't
- 10:56medical,
- 10:57assuming
- 10:57this
- 10:57isn't
- 10:58substance
- 10:58related,
- 10:58yada
- 10:59yada,
- 10:59yada.
- 11:00So
- 11:01keep
- 11:01it
- 11:01simple.
- 11:02If
- 11:03the
- 11:03depression
- 11:04and
- 11:04psychosis
- 11:05are
- 11:05married
- 11:06to
- 11:06each
- 11:06other
- 11:06exclusively
- 11:07and
- 11:08there's
- 11:08no
- 11:09other
- 11:09monkey
- 11:09business
- 11:10going
- 11:10on
- 11:11with
- 11:11the
- 11:11psychosis
- 11:12in
- 11:12other
- 11:12areas
- 11:13you
- 11:13have
- 11:13MDD
- 11:13with
- 11:13psychotic
- 11:14features.
- 11:14The
- 11:15fifth
- 11:15pearl,
- 11:15my
- 11:15friends,
- 11:17is
- 11:18the
- 11:18treatment
- 11:19strategies
- 11:20that
- 11:20are
- 11:20commonly
- 11:20involved
- 11:21in
- 11:21MDD
- 11:21with
- 11:21psychosis.
- 11:22And
- 11:23they
- 11:23typically
- 11:23fall
- 11:24into
- 11:25two
- 11:25categories.
- 11:26An
- 11:26ssri,
- 11:27SNRI
- 11:28with
- 11:28a
- 11:29second
- 11:29generation
- 11:29antipsychotic
- 11:31or
- 11:31ect.
- 11:33Now,
- 11:33ECT
- 11:34is
- 11:34the
- 11:34fastest,
- 11:35it
- 11:35tends
- 11:35to
- 11:35be
- 11:36the
- 11:36most
- 11:36effective.
- 11:36It
- 11:36has
- 11:37very
- 11:37high
- 11:37response
- 11:37rates,
- 11:38up
- 11:38to
- 11:3880%
- 11:38response
- 11:39rates
- 11:40for
- 11:40severe
- 11:40depression
- 11:41or
- 11:41suicidal
- 11:41cases.
- 11:42The
- 11:42evidence
- 11:43is
- 11:43pretty
- 11:43compelling
- 11:43for
- 11:44ect,
- 11:45but
- 11:45of
- 11:45course
- 11:45there
- 11:46are
- 11:46stigma
- 11:46associated
- 11:47with
- 11:47ect,
- 11:47there's
- 11:48cost,
- 11:48there's
- 11:49a
- 11:49lot
- 11:49of
- 11:49insurance
- 11:50companies
- 11:50that
- 11:50don't
- 11:50accept
- 11:51it.
- 11:51There's
- 11:52state
- 11:52and
- 11:52county
- 11:52rules
- 11:53out
- 11:53there
- 11:53that
- 11:53are
- 11:53mixed
- 11:54about
- 11:54what's
- 11:55covered
- 11:55and
- 11:55what's
- 11:55done,
- 11:56where
- 11:56and
- 11:56why.
- 11:57So
- 11:57ECT
- 11:58is
- 11:58not
- 11:58always
- 11:58the
- 11:58most
- 11:59practical
- 12:00immediate
- 12:01strategy
- 12:02or
- 12:02the
- 12:02most
- 12:02available
- 12:03strategy,
- 12:03despite
- 12:04the
- 12:04compelling
- 12:04evidence
- 12:05and
- 12:05the
- 12:05fact
- 12:05that
- 12:06the
- 12:06evidence
- 12:07suggests
- 12:07it's
- 12:07being
- 12:08underutilized.
- 12:09So
- 12:09what
- 12:10often
- 12:10ends
- 12:10up
- 12:11being
- 12:11more
- 12:11practical
- 12:11is
- 12:12an
- 12:12SSRI
- 12:12plus
- 12:13an
- 12:13SGA
- 12:13or
- 12:14an
- 12:14SNRI
- 12:14plus
- 12:15an
- 12:15SGA.
- 12:16Now,
- 12:16the
- 12:16two
- 12:16most
- 12:17studied
- 12:17SGAs,
- 12:18from
- 12:18what
- 12:18we
- 12:19can
- 12:19tell,
- 12:19the
- 12:20evidence
- 12:20is
- 12:20suggesting,
- 12:21are
- 12:22Zyprexa
- 12:23and
- 12:23Seroquel.
- 12:24So
- 12:24let's
- 12:25say
- 12:25you
- 12:25would
- 12:25have
- 12:25a
- 12:25Zoloft
- 12:26plus
- 12:26a
- 12:27Seroquel,
- 12:27or
- 12:27you'd
- 12:27have
- 12:28a
- 12:28Zoloft
- 12:28plus
- 12:29a
- 12:29Zyprexa,
- 12:30that
- 12:30kind
- 12:30of
- 12:30thing,
- 12:31or
- 12:31a
- 12:31Prozac
- 12:31and
- 12:32a
- 12:32Zyprexa
- 12:33Symbiax.
- 12:34There's
- 12:34actually
- 12:34a
- 12:34combination
- 12:35medication
- 12:35that
- 12:35includes
- 12:36Zyprexa
- 12:36or
- 12:37Olanzapine
- 12:37and
- 12:37Fluoxetine
- 12:39called
- 12:39Symbiax.
- 12:40So
- 12:40that
- 12:40would
- 12:41be
- 12:41one
- 12:41of
- 12:41the
- 12:42treatment
- 12:42strategies
- 12:43you
- 12:44can
- 12:44go
- 12:44for.
- 12:44Real
- 12:45life.
- 12:45Prescribing
- 12:46is
- 12:46muddy.
- 12:47You
- 12:47always
- 12:48want
- 12:48to
- 12:48follow
- 12:48the
- 12:48evidence.
- 12:49You
- 12:49don't
- 12:50want
- 12:50to
- 12:50run
- 12:50in
- 12:50blind
- 12:50and
- 12:51do
- 12:51things
- 12:51that
- 12:51are
- 12:51not
- 12:52based
- 12:52on
- 12:52the
- 12:52evidence.
- 12:53But
- 12:53remember,
- 12:53the
- 12:54best
- 12:54medication
- 12:54is
- 12:55the
- 12:55medication
- 12:55that
- 12:56your
- 12:56patient
- 12:56will
- 12:56take.
- 12:57You
- 12:57might
- 12:57think
- 12:57Zyprexa
- 12:58is
- 12:58the
- 12:58best
- 12:58medication,
- 12:59but
- 12:59your
- 12:59patient
- 13:00might
- 13:00also
- 13:00be
- 13:0080
- 13:01pounds
- 13:01overweight
- 13:01and
- 13:02have
- 13:02a
- 13:02zero
- 13:02tolerance
- 13:03policy
- 13:03for
- 13:03weight
- 13:03gain.
- 13:04Well,
- 13:04then
- 13:05you're
- 13:05kind
- 13:05of
- 13:05struck
- 13:05out.
- 13:06You
- 13:06can't
- 13:06really
- 13:06give
- 13:06them
- 13:06Zyprexa
- 13:07if
- 13:07their
- 13:07metabolic
- 13:08panel's
- 13:08already
- 13:09a
- 13:09mess.
- 13:09Their
- 13:10BMI
- 13:10is
- 13:1036
- 13:11and
- 13:11they've
- 13:12already
- 13:13tried
- 13:13Seroquel
- 13:14in
- 13:14the
- 13:14past
- 13:14and
- 13:14gained
- 13:15tons
- 13:15of
- 13:15weight.
- 13:15Good
- 13:16luck
- 13:16selling
- 13:16them
- 13:16on
- 13:17Zyprexa.
- 13:18But
- 13:18again,
- 13:18you
- 13:18have
- 13:19a
- 13:19pretty
- 13:19big
- 13:20problem
- 13:20in
- 13:20front
- 13:20of
- 13:20you.
- 13:21Major
- 13:21depressive
- 13:21disorder
- 13:22with
- 13:22psychotic
- 13:22features.
- 13:23And
- 13:23let's
- 13:23say
- 13:23their
- 13:24insurance
- 13:24doesn't
- 13:24accept
- 13:25any
- 13:25kind
- 13:26of
- 13:26reimbursement
- 13:26for
- 13:26ect.
- 13:27This
- 13:27is
- 13:27where
- 13:28real
- 13:28life
- 13:28prescribing
- 13:29comes
- 13:29into
- 13:29play.
- 13:29Right.
- 13:30It's
- 13:30almost
- 13:30like
- 13:30a
- 13:30game
- 13:30of
- 13:31chess
- 13:31where
- 13:32the
- 13:32textbook
- 13:32says,
- 13:32do
- 13:33this,
- 13:33and
- 13:34your
- 13:34patients
- 13:34and
- 13:34insurance
- 13:35companies
- 13:36and
- 13:36the
- 13:36realities
- 13:36on
- 13:37the
- 13:37ground
- 13:37are
- 13:37kind
- 13:37of
- 13:37putting
- 13:38your
- 13:38king
- 13:38in
- 13:38check,
- 13:39where
- 13:39you
- 13:39can't
- 13:39make
- 13:39certain
- 13:40moves.
- 13:40So
- 13:41you
- 13:41have
- 13:41to
- 13:41put
- 13:41this
- 13:41through
- 13:42a
- 13:42filter
- 13:42of
- 13:42the
- 13:42kinds
- 13:43of
- 13:43insurance,
- 13:43what
- 13:44the
- 13:44evidence
- 13:44says,
- 13:45what
- 13:45your
- 13:45patient
- 13:45will
- 13:46tolerate,
- 13:46and
- 13:47also,
- 13:47of
- 13:48course,
- 13:48basic
- 13:49pharmacology,
- 13:50pharmacokinetics,
- 13:51and
- 13:51pharmacodynamics
- 13:52of
- 13:53these
- 13:53medications
- 13:54and
- 13:54how
- 13:54patient
- 13:55will
- 13:55respond
- 13:55to
- 13:55them.
- 13:56So
- 13:57here.
- 13:57Here
- 13:57you
- 13:57are
- 13:57with
- 13:57Zyprex
- 13:58and
- 13:58Seroquel,
- 13:59and
- 13:59your
- 13:59patient
- 13:59goes,
- 13:59arms
- 14:00crossed.
- 14:00I'm
- 14:01not
- 14:01doing
- 14:01this.
- 14:02I'm
- 14:03leaving.
- 14:04Well,
- 14:05what
- 14:05other
- 14:05antipsychotics
- 14:06do
- 14:06you
- 14:07have
- 14:07access
- 14:07to
- 14:07that
- 14:08you
- 14:08could
- 14:08potentially
- 14:09utilize
- 14:10here?
- 14:11And
- 14:11you
- 14:11may
- 14:12want
- 14:12to
- 14:12look
- 14:12at
- 14:12Abilify.
- 14:13It
- 14:13has
- 14:14some
- 14:14evidence
- 14:14in
- 14:15mitigating
- 14:16psychosis
- 14:17and
- 14:17depression.
- 14:17It
- 14:18is
- 14:18a
- 14:18common
- 14:18augmentation
- 14:19strategy
- 14:20in
- 14:20depression.
- 14:21So
- 14:21it
- 14:21can.
- 14:22It
- 14:22can
- 14:22actually
- 14:22improve
- 14:23depression
- 14:23on
- 14:24its
- 14:24own.
- 14:24And
- 14:25with
- 14:25enough
- 14:25D2
- 14:25blockade,
- 14:26we
- 14:27know
- 14:27it's
- 14:27a
- 14:27partial
- 14:27agonist,
- 14:28but
- 14:28it
- 14:28can
- 14:28attenuate
- 14:30psychotic
- 14:30symptoms.
- 14:31So.
- 14:31And
- 14:32it
- 14:32has
- 14:32a
- 14:32lot
- 14:32less
- 14:32metabolic
- 14:33baggage.
- 14:33Remember
- 14:34in
- 14:34previous
- 14:34episodes,
- 14:35we
- 14:35talked
- 14:35about
- 14:35how
- 14:35it
- 14:36weakly
- 14:36antagonizes
- 14:375ht
- 14:372c,
- 14:38and
- 14:38therefore
- 14:39it
- 14:39doesn't
- 14:39cause
- 14:39as
- 14:39much
- 14:40weight
- 14:40gain.
- 14:40And
- 14:40we
- 14:40have
- 14:41a
- 14:41very
- 14:41good
- 14:41mnemonic
- 14:42device
- 14:42for
- 14:42you
- 14:43to
- 14:43remember
- 14:44if
- 14:44you
- 14:44zip
- 14:45over
- 14:45to
- 14:45those
- 14:45episodes,
- 14:46I
- 14:46highly
- 14:46recommend
- 14:47you
- 14:47binge
- 14:47all
- 14:47of
- 14:47these
- 14:47and
- 14:48share
- 14:48all
- 14:48of
- 14:48these.
- 14:48They
- 14:49all
- 14:49kind
- 14:49of
- 14:49come
- 14:49together.
- 14:50And
- 14:51so
- 14:51you
- 14:51may
- 14:52find,
- 14:52hey,
- 14:52I'm
- 14:53gonna
- 14:53pitch
- 14:53Abilify.
- 14:54But
- 14:54remember,
- 14:55you've
- 14:55gotta
- 14:55look
- 14:56at
- 14:56Abilify
- 14:56and
- 14:56go,
- 14:56okay,
- 14:57wait.
- 14:57How
- 14:57much
- 14:57dopamine
- 14:58you
- 14:59know,
- 14:59how
- 14:59much
- 14:59D2
- 15:00can
- 15:00I
- 15:00block
- 15:01here?
- 15:01What's
- 15:01the
- 15:02affinity
- 15:02for
- 15:02D2?
- 15:04What
- 15:04circuits
- 15:04am
- 15:04I
- 15:05targeting
- 15:05here?
- 15:05Is
- 15:05Abilify
- 15:06gonna
- 15:06target
- 15:06those
- 15:07things?
- 15:07You
- 15:07have
- 15:07to
- 15:08know
- 15:08every
- 15:09time
- 15:09you
- 15:09whip
- 15:09out
- 15:09a
- 15:09medication.
- 15:10What
- 15:11is
- 15:11the
- 15:11affinity
- 15:11of
- 15:11this
- 15:12medication
- 15:12for
- 15:12specific
- 15:13receptors
- 15:14in
- 15:14specific
- 15:15brain
- 15:15circuits
- 15:15that
- 15:16I'm
- 15:16targeting
- 15:17to
- 15:17alleviate
- 15:17the
- 15:18patient's
- 15:18specific
- 15:19symptom
- 15:19profile?
- 15:20In
- 15:20this
- 15:20case,
- 15:20it
- 15:20would
- 15:21be
- 15:21maybe,
- 15:21like,
- 15:21an
- 15:21overactivation
- 15:22of
- 15:22dopamine
- 15:23in
- 15:23the
- 15:23mesolimbic
- 15:24circuits.
- 15:25Well,
- 15:25which
- 15:25medications
- 15:26serve
- 15:26to
- 15:27block
- 15:27dopamine
- 15:28in
- 15:28those
- 15:29circuits
- 15:29and
- 15:29at
- 15:30what
- 15:30dose?
- 15:30The
- 15:31affinity.
- 15:32Right,
- 15:32and
- 15:33that's
- 15:33really
- 15:33important.
- 15:34Right.
- 15:34And
- 15:35how
- 15:35effectively
- 15:35do
- 15:36they
- 15:36block
- 15:36that.
- 15:37So
- 15:37you
- 15:37could
- 15:37look
- 15:37at
- 15:37a
- 15:38Geodon
- 15:38or
- 15:38an
- 15:38Abilify
- 15:39or
- 15:40some
- 15:40other
- 15:41second
- 15:41generation
- 15:42antipsychotic.
- 15:43And
- 15:43based
- 15:43on
- 15:43the
- 15:43side
- 15:44effect
- 15:44profiles,
- 15:44and
- 15:45you
- 15:45have
- 15:45to
- 15:45contend
- 15:46with
- 15:46those
- 15:46side
- 15:46effect
- 15:46profiles,
- 15:47you
- 15:47have
- 15:47to
- 15:47monitor
- 15:47the
- 15:48patient
- 15:48very
- 15:48closely
- 15:49and
- 15:49figure
- 15:49it
- 15:49out.
- 15:50My
- 15:50one
- 15:50issue
- 15:50with
- 15:51Seroquel,
- 15:51just
- 15:52my
- 15:52own
- 15:52issue,
- 15:52I
- 15:52love
- 15:52it
- 15:53for
- 15:53specific
- 15:53reasons,
- 15:54but
- 15:54you
- 15:54do
- 15:55have
- 15:55to
- 15:55up
- 15:55that
- 15:56dose
- 15:56quite
- 15:56a
- 15:56bit
- 15:57to
- 15:57block
- 15:57enough
- 15:58D2.
- 15:59It
- 15:59has
- 15:59a
- 15:59very
- 15:59low
- 16:00D2
- 16:00affinity.
- 16:01And
- 16:01a
- 16:01lot
- 16:01of
- 16:02people
- 16:02just
- 16:02feel
- 16:03like
- 16:03they're
- 16:03pretty
- 16:04wiped
- 16:04out.
- 16:04With
- 16:04Seroquel,
- 16:05it
- 16:05really
- 16:06can
- 16:06wipe
- 16:06you
- 16:06out
- 16:06and
- 16:07make
- 16:07you
- 16:07tired.
- 16:07And
- 16:07they
- 16:08can't
- 16:08tolerate
- 16:08going
- 16:09all
- 16:09the
- 16:09way
- 16:09up
- 16:09to
- 16:09300
- 16:10very
- 16:10easily,
- 16:10if
- 16:11at
- 16:11all.
- 16:12So
- 16:12again,
- 16:12your
- 16:12textbook
- 16:13might
- 16:13say,
- 16:14well,
- 16:14you
- 16:15know,
- 16:15get
- 16:15Seroquel
- 16:16up
- 16:16to
- 16:16the
- 16:17300
- 16:17to
- 16:17500
- 16:18range
- 16:18and
- 16:19start
- 16:19blocking
- 16:19dopamine
- 16:20more
- 16:21efficiently
- 16:21and
- 16:22get
- 16:22rid
- 16:22of
- 16:22those
- 16:22psychotic
- 16:22symptoms.
- 16:23But
- 16:23it's
- 16:24what
- 16:24your
- 16:24patient's
- 16:25willing
- 16:25to
- 16:25tolerate.
- 16:25And
- 16:26if
- 16:26they're
- 16:26already
- 16:26sleeping
- 16:27a
- 16:27lot,
- 16:27it
- 16:28might
- 16:28not
- 16:28be
- 16:28your
- 16:29agent
- 16:29of
- 16:29choice.
- 16:29So
- 16:30this
- 16:30is
- 16:30where
- 16:30things
- 16:30get
- 16:31complicated.
- 16:31But
- 16:31for
- 16:32simplicity's
- 16:32sake,
- 16:33ECT
- 16:34is
- 16:34really
- 16:34reserved
- 16:35for
- 16:35those
- 16:35urgent
- 16:35or
- 16:36severe
- 16:36cases.
- 16:36It
- 16:36has
- 16:37a
- 16:37faster
- 16:37onset,
- 16:38it
- 16:38tends
- 16:38to
- 16:38have
- 16:38better
- 16:39outcomes.
- 16:40It's
- 16:40very
- 16:40effective
- 16:41with
- 16:42that
- 16:42severe
- 16:42suicidality,
- 16:43impairment,
- 16:44grave
- 16:44disability,
- 16:45psychosis.
- 16:46That
- 16:46is
- 16:47something
- 16:47you
- 16:47want
- 16:47to
- 16:48look
- 16:48at.
- 16:48And
- 16:48you
- 16:49may
- 16:49not
- 16:49have
- 16:49the
- 16:49luxury
- 16:50to
- 16:50really
- 16:50wait
- 16:51for
- 16:51these
- 16:51second
- 16:51generation
- 16:52antipsychotics
- 16:52and
- 16:53titrating
- 16:53them
- 16:53up
- 16:53to
- 16:54the
- 16:54right
- 16:54doses
- 16:55to
- 16:55achieve
- 16:56your
- 16:56goals.
- 16:57And
- 16:57of
- 16:57course,
- 16:57you
- 16:58have
- 16:58to
- 16:58consider
- 16:58hospitalization,
- 16:59right,
- 16:59where
- 17:00you
- 17:00can
- 17:00titrate
- 17:00these
- 17:00antipsychotics
- 17:01more
- 17:01aggressively
- 17:02with
- 17:02monitoring
- 17:03because
- 17:03the
- 17:03patients
- 17:04are
- 17:04being
- 17:04monitored
- 17:04all
- 17:05of
- 17:05the
- 17:05time.
- 17:06So
- 17:06you
- 17:06have
- 17:07to
- 17:07put
- 17:07this
- 17:07all
- 17:07together.
- 17:07And
- 17:08again,
- 17:08this
- 17:08is
- 17:08why
- 17:08I
- 17:09love
- 17:09this
- 17:09field,
- 17:09because
- 17:10you're
- 17:10putting
- 17:10this
- 17:10all
- 17:11together.
- 17:11It's
- 17:12rewarding.
- 17:12And
- 17:13you
- 17:13have
- 17:13a
- 17:13human
- 17:13in
- 17:14front
- 17:14of
- 17:14you,
- 17:14and
- 17:14you
- 17:14guys
- 17:15have
- 17:15a
- 17:15human
- 17:15conversation
- 17:16and
- 17:16you
- 17:16figure
- 17:16out
- 17:16what's
- 17:17best
- 17:17for
- 17:17that
- 17:17particular
- 17:18person
- 17:18and
- 17:18how
- 17:19to
- 17:19make
- 17:19things
- 17:19better.
- 17:20My
- 17:20friends,
- 17:20the
- 17:20last
- 17:21pearl
- 17:21today,
- 17:22the
- 17:22last
- 17:22pearl
- 17:23is
- 17:23that
- 17:23you
- 17:23don't
- 17:23want
- 17:24to
- 17:24stop
- 17:24this
- 17:24treatment
- 17:25too
- 17:25soon,
- 17:26okay?
- 17:26You
- 17:26want
- 17:26to
- 17:26maintain
- 17:27the
- 17:27antidepressant
- 17:28and
- 17:28antipsychotic
- 17:29for
- 17:29about
- 17:294
- 17:29to
- 17:306
- 17:30months
- 17:30after
- 17:30remission,
- 17:319
- 17:32to
- 17:3212
- 17:32months
- 17:32if
- 17:33multiple
- 17:33episodes
- 17:33or
- 17:34residual
- 17:34symptoms
- 17:35of
- 17:35paranoia
- 17:35remain.
- 17:36That
- 17:36is
- 17:37from
- 17:37recent
- 17:38guidelines.
- 17:39The
- 17:39evidence
- 17:40suggests
- 17:40you
- 17:40don't
- 17:40want
- 17:41abrupt
- 17:41discontinuation
- 17:42of
- 17:42these
- 17:42agents
- 17:43once
- 17:43psychosis
- 17:43resolves.
- 17:44You
- 17:45also
- 17:45have
- 17:45rebound
- 17:45psychosis.
- 17:46Sometimes
- 17:47when
- 17:47you're
- 17:47blocking
- 17:48D2
- 17:49for
- 17:49prolonged
- 17:49periods
- 17:50of
- 17:50times,
- 17:50there's
- 17:50upregulation.
- 17:51Those
- 17:52dopamine
- 17:52receptors
- 17:53get
- 17:53more
- 17:53sensitive.
- 17:54And
- 17:54so
- 17:54again,
- 17:55you
- 17:55don't
- 17:55want
- 17:56to
- 17:56just
- 17:56rip
- 17:57out
- 17:57the
- 17:57carpet
- 17:57from
- 17:58underneath
- 17:58these
- 17:58patients.
- 17:59You
- 17:59want
- 17:59to
- 17:59continue
- 18:00care
- 18:00both
- 18:01the
- 18:01antidepressant
- 18:02antipsychotic
- 18:02for
- 18:03greater
- 18:03or
- 18:03equal
- 18:03to
- 18:044
- 18:04to
- 18:046
- 18:04months
- 18:04after
- 18:05remission,
- 18:05and
- 18:05then
- 18:06maybe
- 18:069
- 18:06to
- 18:0612
- 18:06months.
- 18:07If
- 18:07multiple
- 18:08episodes
- 18:08or
- 18:08residual
- 18:09symptoms
- 18:09are
- 18:10present
- 18:10and
- 18:11every
- 18:11patient's
- 18:11a
- 18:11little
- 18:11different,
- 18:12the
- 18:12guidelines
- 18:13can
- 18:13change.
- 18:13Consult
- 18:14your
- 18:14guidelines,
- 18:15consult
- 18:15your
- 18:15practice.
- 18:16You
- 18:16don't
- 18:17want
- 18:17to
- 18:17abruptly
- 18:17discontinue.
- 18:18And
- 18:18a
- 18:18general
- 18:19conceptual
- 18:19appreciation
- 18:20for
- 18:21what
- 18:21this
- 18:21is,
- 18:21why
- 18:22it's
- 18:22important
- 18:23how
- 18:23the
- 18:23treatment
- 18:24guidelines
- 18:24kind
- 18:24of
- 18:25shift
- 18:25and
- 18:25change
- 18:25the
- 18:25things
- 18:26you
- 18:26need
- 18:26to
- 18:26specifically
- 18:27consider
- 18:28when
- 18:28you're
- 18:28confronting
- 18:28MDD
- 18:29with
- 18:29psychosis.
- 18:29It's
- 18:30all
- 18:30pretty
- 18:30interesting.
- 18:31It's
- 18:31all
- 18:31pretty
- 18:32high
- 18:32stakes,
- 18:32and
- 18:32I
- 18:33hope
- 18:33you
- 18:33enjoyed
- 18:33this.
- 18:33I
- 18:33hope
- 18:34it's
- 18:34empowered
- 18:34you
- 18:34to
- 18:35understand
- 18:35the
- 18:35diagnosis
- 18:36a
- 18:36little
- 18:36better,
- 18:36to
- 18:37understand
- 18:37the
- 18:37stakes,
- 18:38understand
- 18:38the
- 18:38treatment
- 18:39and
- 18:39why
- 18:39this
- 18:40all
- 18:40matters.
- 18:40Again,
- 18:41I
- 18:41can't
- 18:41emphasize
- 18:42enough.
- 18:42My
- 18:42friends
- 18:42march
- 18:43over
- 18:43to
- 18:43the
- 18:43show
- 18:43notes,
- 18:44become
- 18:44Patreon
- 18:45members.
- 18:45It
- 18:45will
- 18:46be
- 18:46worth
- 18:47its
- 18:47weight
- 18:47in
- 18:48gold
- 18:48for
- 18:48you
- 18:48to
- 18:48treat
- 18:48your
- 18:49patients
- 18:49a
- 18:49little
- 18:49better,
- 18:50to
- 18:50pass
- 18:50those
- 18:50boards,
- 18:51and
- 18:52to
- 18:52just
- 18:52empower
- 18:52you.
- 18:53Even
- 18:54one
- 18:54pearl,
- 18:54my
- 18:54friends,
- 18:55can
- 18:55radically
- 18:56change
- 18:56a
- 18:56patient's
- 18:57day,
- 18:57maybe
- 18:57a
- 18:57patient's
- 18:58lives,
- 18:58if
- 18:58we
- 18:59just
- 18:59know
- 18:59one
- 18:59little
- 19:00pearl.
- 19:00And
- 19:01that's
- 19:01why
- 19:01this
- 19:01field
- 19:02is
- 19:02so
- 19:02rewarding.
- 19:02This
- 19:03is
- 19:03so
- 19:03much
- 19:03more
- 19:03than
- 19:03just
- 19:04passing
- 19:04our
- 19:04boards.
- 19:05It's
- 19:05so
- 19:05much
- 19:05more
- 19:06than
- 19:06just
- 19:06getting
- 19:07a
- 19:07bunch
- 19:07of
- 19:07credentials
- 19:08and
- 19:08going
- 19:08to
- 19:08school
- 19:08and
- 19:08earning
- 19:09a
- 19:09paycheck.
- 19:09This
- 19:09is
- 19:10about
- 19:10having
- 19:11the
- 19:11power
- 19:11to
- 19:12collect
- 19:12pearls
- 19:13that
- 19:13prep
- 19:13you
- 19:14to
- 19:14change
- 19:14lives
- 19:15for
- 19:15the
- 19:15better.
- 19:16Signing
- 19:16off
- 19:16now.
- 19:17Thank
- 19:17you
- 19:17for
- 19:18tuning
- 19:18in,
- 19:18my
- 19:18friends.
- 19:19Share
- 19:19this
- 19:20around
- 19:20with
- 19:20all
- 19:20your
- 19:20friends.
- 19:21It's
- 19:21getting
- 19:21big
- 19:21very
- 19:21fast
- 19:22and
- 19:22we
- 19:22appreciate
- 19:23all
- 19:23of
- 19:23you.
- 19:23Take
- 19:23care.
- 19:24Bye
- 19:24Bye.