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Rushion Interviews P. Valley star, J. Alphonse Nicholson, talks honestly and accurately portraying his character Lil Murda! · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversation Masterclass. I am your host,
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  Speaker 1: Rashean McDonald. I recognize that we all have different definitions
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  Speaker 1: your friends, family, or coworkers stop you from planning or
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  Speaker 1: living your dreams. My next guest is jay our False Nicholson.
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  Speaker 1: He's one of the stars of p Valid, one of
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  Speaker 1: the most acclaimed series on the Stars Network. Let me
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  Speaker 1: give you a little background on p Valid. Tell us
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  Speaker 1: a universal story of hustlers, streamers, survivors and strivers. The
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  Speaker 1: show confronts and illustrator realities of domestic violence, trauma, and
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  Speaker 1: the most highly rated shows on Writing Tomatoes. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: it is rated That's uh the Ultimate A plus complimented.
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  Speaker 1: It remains one of the most acclaimed shows on TV.
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  Speaker 1: It just broke out of nowhere. It was on TV
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  Speaker 1: season one. We're talking about season two. P Valley is
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  Speaker 1: going to numerous acoldes UH Awards, including the n double
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  Speaker 1: A CP Image Award, as well as nominations from the
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  Speaker 1: Television Critics Association, GLAD Media Awards, Independent Spirit Awards, Got Them,
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  Speaker 1: Independence Film Awards, and many many Moore, but easy hearing
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  Speaker 1: A K A Little Murder J L. Fas Nicholson. How
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  Speaker 1: you doing, sir, I'm doing well. Certain Thanks for happening me.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Well, I'm gonna go back a little
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  Speaker 1: bit to the first season. Man, this is when I
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  Speaker 1: became a fan. Man, when you and uh Keyshaw came
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  Speaker 1: out there in that finale, man, and I was I
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  Speaker 1: was trying to find the CD. I was trying to
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  Speaker 1: I was trying to find the CD. Man, I really
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  Speaker 1: was trying to find the CD. I told Nico, who
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  Speaker 1: I interviewed already, I said, man, you are you Let's
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  Speaker 1: let's let's go back about you, man, because you see
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  Speaker 1: so natural. It's an urban flick, you you know, and
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  Speaker 1: it's all about feeling that moment and being in that moment.
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  Speaker 1: Talk about that episode that I'm talking about, and when
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  Speaker 1: did you feel that you really had a grip on
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  Speaker 1: the character A Little Murder in the p Valley series.
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  Speaker 1: Appreciate the cold words. Um. You know, we've been working
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  Speaker 1: on this since two an eighteen. We did that first
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  Speaker 1: College Um episode. They got it picked up in two
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  Speaker 1: the eight teams. I knew then that we had to
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  Speaker 1: hit it on our hands. I knew that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it was going to be a complex relationship with the audience,
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  Speaker 1: but they were going to receive it. And so by
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  Speaker 1: time we got into season one, I would say halfway
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  Speaker 1: through the season, I was very comfortable with the character
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  Speaker 1: that I was creating. Alongside Coutry Hall and the rest
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  Speaker 1: of my cast makes the story that we were telling.
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  Speaker 1: And then yeah, by the time we got to that
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  Speaker 1: episode with Keshan and I Mad Murder and Knight, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it was one of those things where the world had
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  Speaker 1: already been so dronged by our show that you know,
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  Speaker 1: it almost felt like it was happening in real time.
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  Speaker 1: Not only was a Little Murder and Keyshine extremely popular
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  Speaker 1: on the show, but then we were like popular in
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  Speaker 1: real life too, and all of our fame was kind
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  Speaker 1: of growing at the same time. So I would say
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  Speaker 1: midway through the seasons, when I really locked in and
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  Speaker 1: felt like I have to complete control over this character.
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  Speaker 1: I know exactly what I'm going with them. And then um,
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  Speaker 1: even the parts that made me a little apprehensive and
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  Speaker 1: and scared and nervous to to portray or you know,
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  Speaker 1: the emotions that I knew had to be portrayed. I
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  Speaker 1: knew as long as I was I stayed true, as
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  Speaker 1: long as I was honest with my actions, that the
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  Speaker 1: world will receive it and eventually be kind to this
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  Speaker 1: character that we're not so used to seeing. Well, definitely,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I think that you know, we see uh,
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  Speaker 1: we see life is uh, it's like it's like everybody
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  Speaker 1: has a month now, you know, but that month has
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  Speaker 1: to be received with information, has to be promoted. And
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  Speaker 1: and then because of the fact that at this point
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  Speaker 1: in life, it's really being promoted, and this show is
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  Speaker 1: being promoted because of the approach it takes about the
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  Speaker 1: community is representing. When you said you was a little nervous,
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  Speaker 1: I just want to go back on what your comics
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  Speaker 1: were just to get just to just to grow out
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  Speaker 1: of that thought process so my audience can understand everything
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  Speaker 1: is challenging and it can be on the piece of paper,
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  Speaker 1: but you still have to honestly deliver the role. Talk
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  Speaker 1: about that, yeah, man, I think every role comes with
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  Speaker 1: an extreme amount of challenges, you know, especially roads that you, um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, as a person, are not as familiar with.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I knew who the murder is because of
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  Speaker 1: the every man that he is in our society, you know,
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  Speaker 1: but as a head or a sexual man, it was
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  Speaker 1: you know, I knew that I was portraying someone who
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't and so just nervous about how the audience
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  Speaker 1: was going to receive that. And then you know, one
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  Speaker 1: of my my brothers and assistants who are who are
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  Speaker 1: part of that community of g b t Q community
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  Speaker 1: to feel respected and feel like that their story would
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  Speaker 1: being told in an honest way. And so I think
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  Speaker 1: that's where the nerves came from. Um. But now a
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  Speaker 1: lot of those nerves have subsided, subsided, just because you
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  Speaker 1: know the action of the show and how people are
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  Speaker 1: accepting characters. Always gonna be love, always gonna behave, but
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  Speaker 1: I always choose to accept more the love. Well, I
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  Speaker 1: will tell you no hate here from Rashan McDonald, No
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  Speaker 1: hate here from money making conference math. No here here
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  Speaker 1: from my social media, No here from my news letter, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: my radio show. Because of the television, you can only grow,
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  Speaker 1: especially as a community. Let's let's go to black people,
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  Speaker 1: because black people are the last a bit anything. And
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  Speaker 1: sometimes when you start going to the gay community, that's
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  Speaker 1: that's perceived as a flaw. And and we as a
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  Speaker 1: as a community, until we started accepting this is not
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  Speaker 1: a flaw, this is part of life, then we can
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  Speaker 1: move forward as a community. And so so when the
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  Speaker 1: show came out, you know, I would tell you, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it was talking about the strip club and I wasn't
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  Speaker 1: even feeling that, uh you know. And I will tell
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  Speaker 1: you I had that same attitude when Power came out,
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  Speaker 1: when it was talking about fifty cents and a drug
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  Speaker 1: dealer and club. I'm not getting that fell in love
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  Speaker 1: with that. And so I always tell people, don't reject,
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  Speaker 1: participate and then allow story to grow on you. And
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  Speaker 1: this story has grown on me now and it has
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  Speaker 1: grown on this country. How have you reacted to that,
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  Speaker 1: Jay Man? They're just trying to stay relaxed. And then
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  Speaker 1: for me, you know, my wife and I were always
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  Speaker 1: on the same page about you know, staying away from
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  Speaker 1: certain comments on social media, or you know, not getting
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  Speaker 1: too caught up in the whole fanfare of it all,
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  Speaker 1: because people who love you one day that age next,
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  Speaker 1: you know. So, but I appreciate all all of the
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  Speaker 1: just amazing, you know, comments and just generous attention that
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  Speaker 1: has been spent on pet Island. And we've built an
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  Speaker 1: incredible fan base, and so to be a part of
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  Speaker 1: the that is unlike any other show I've been on before,
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  Speaker 1: and probably you know, unlike any experience I'll have gone
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  Speaker 1: forward if you guys, just such a conglomerate and man's huge.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm glad to be a part of it. We'll
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  Speaker 1: be right back with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass with
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  Speaker 1: Rushan McDonald. Now, let's return to Money Making Conversations Masterclass
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  Speaker 1: with Rashan McDonald. Well, you know an interesting thing about
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  Speaker 1: the jail interviewing JR. Fons Nicholson. He's one of the
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  Speaker 1: stars of p Valley. He plays the character a Little Murder,
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  Speaker 1: one of the more popular characters on the series. He
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  Speaker 1: got about like four story lines running simultaneously, you know,
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  Speaker 1: So I say that's a good thing, because what happens
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  Speaker 1: is you want to get back to Little Murder, find
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  Speaker 1: out what's going on. You know, you're nervous about Keyshaw
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  Speaker 1: because her husband's kind of crazy at the crib taking
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  Speaker 1: kid kids. You don't know if he's gonna show up.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I remember when you and Keisha was in
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  Speaker 1: the same room. I was worried he's gonna busting the dough.
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  Speaker 1: Think y'all having a relationship. You know, very talk about
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  Speaker 1: that writing, man, because like I said, y'all got my
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  Speaker 1: head spinning. And I'm gonna tell you something a little
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  Speaker 1: background on me. I'm a sitcom writer back in the
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  Speaker 1: Day's sister Sister Jamie Foxx show The Parkers, The Parenthood.
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  Speaker 1: So I know about quality, right and so so I
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  Speaker 1: also know about when I'm seeing it being played out
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  Speaker 1: by outstanding acting. But the with the script, man, I
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  Speaker 1: would tell you right now, I couldn't be in that
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  Speaker 1: writer's room. Y'all came out, y'all coming out with languages
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  Speaker 1: and statements. I can't even deal with. Man, talk about
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  Speaker 1: that script there, jay yea, I'll be talking, man and
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  Speaker 1: I And a lot of times I put the show
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  Speaker 1: on close capting so I can see the script language
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  Speaker 1: and it's off the chain man, talk about that man,
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  Speaker 1: because that's what makes it authentic, you know. You know,
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  Speaker 1: if you guys that went beyond the word ain't you know,
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  Speaker 1: y'all got a whole language. Just happened that Mississippi, you know,
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  Speaker 1: talk to us about that man. Shout out to the
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  Speaker 1: Tory hall Man. She is just you know, an incredible writer,
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  Speaker 1: pull of surprise winning writer at this point, and so
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  Speaker 1: she honors and pays uh homage to what she hears.
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  Speaker 1: And so that's one thing I'm grateful to be excuse me,
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  Speaker 1: to be part of a show that allows us to
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  Speaker 1: sit in our most familiar monopoly, you know. And for
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  Speaker 1: me coming up through theater and you know, working my
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  Speaker 1: way up to Broadway, there's this uh thing where you
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  Speaker 1: have to speak very proper and have this standard American
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  Speaker 1: England to be able to do the Shakespeare and all
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  Speaker 1: these things. And we can come on back home and
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  Speaker 1: sit in the Ebonics, which is one of the most beautiful,
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  Speaker 1: you know, languages I feel, you know, and our culture
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  Speaker 1: we created that, and so cot she explores all levels
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  Speaker 1: of that, even when you know, like you said, black
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  Speaker 1: people hate admitting that we sounded certain ways sometimes, but
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  Speaker 1: it's true, you know and uh, when you get into
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  Speaker 1: certain parts of the South, there's a very specific sound.
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  Speaker 1: And obviously there's a diverse culture in the South as well.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone doesn't sound the same um and I think we
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  Speaker 1: show that very well on Pete Valley. And then you know,
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  Speaker 1: like I said, Victoria, she's gonna use every inch of
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  Speaker 1: her Couturi dictionary and lived to pull our words and
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  Speaker 1: should make up something. And then there will be a
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  Speaker 1: lot in there that you know, you heard your mom
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  Speaker 1: and your aunt's and your cousins say several times. So
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  Speaker 1: it's nice to be a part of it. I before
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  Speaker 1: we get into the season two, I want to go
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  Speaker 1: back to that that that that that the season for Nalie,
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  Speaker 1: you know, when you came out and performed and because
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  Speaker 1: I gotta go, I tell you that was a start
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  Speaker 1: making turn for me, for you and also keep shan,
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  Speaker 1: you know, because I was like, I was like at
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  Speaker 1: the house, Wow, you know, I stop my wife, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because she being as she I'll be watching all kind
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  Speaker 1: of got my big screen. I just what you watching?
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  Speaker 1: Next thing? She's sitting next to me. I said that,
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  Speaker 1: I said, that board right there a star And I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna tell you something I'm not gonna ever asked you
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  Speaker 1: to do what she's doing because it's impossible. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know why she's doing it. She feels like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like a gymnast. But y'all had a start turning performance
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  Speaker 1: there when that when when something happens like that, were
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  Speaker 1: are you and emotionally and you do? You do? You do?
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  Speaker 1: People tell you, wow, man, that was special? How did
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  Speaker 1: that moment happen? Because it propelled you into season two? Um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I always just put my best foot forward,
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  Speaker 1: no matter who my audiences, no matter who's watching, And
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  Speaker 1: I think that's something it or taught me. Um, you know,
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  Speaker 1: eight shows a week, you gotta bring it every time,
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  Speaker 1: and so your audience is either going to lean into
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  Speaker 1: that or sit back and pep out of order. They
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  Speaker 1: just leaked into it, and so that let me feel
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  Speaker 1: confident about the performance, even though you know, I feel
• 11:16
  Speaker 1: confident about it before we give it out to the orders,
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  Speaker 1: but once they receive it and everyone it's going crazy.
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  Speaker 1: And also just kind of being moved by the character
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  Speaker 1: that they're saying. Also just transport the cinema, cinematography and
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  Speaker 1: the storytelling. It means a lot because it's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of hard work. So as an artist, you know, I
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: try to correlate it to pottery. You know, you you
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  Speaker 1: make this beautiful pot it takes your time. You have
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  Speaker 1: to paint it and sculpt it, and then once you
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  Speaker 1: put it in stores or you give it as a
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  Speaker 1: gift and that person's overwhelmed by what you've created. It
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  Speaker 1: means as well, and so as a craft and for
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  Speaker 1: someone to accept your craft and really appreciate it. Um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's just one of those things where you can't,
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  Speaker 1: you really can't the feeling that it gives you, which
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  Speaker 1: is just love and ultimately, you know, being seen for
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  Speaker 1: the artists that you are. So it's it's a beautiful
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  Speaker 1: thing that I love it. And sometimes, you know, can't
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  Speaker 1: quite explain what the energy is. You can't explain what
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  Speaker 1: it's like four point five many viewers watching every week
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  Speaker 1: or sometimes the non Navy can't really explain that energy
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  Speaker 1: is life. So it's just like you gotta go through it,
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  Speaker 1: you know. Well, the reason I'm just bringing these things
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  Speaker 1: up and just want to slow it down to my
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  Speaker 1: listeners and viewers about p Valley is that it's a
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  Speaker 1: substantive show and it deserves all awards that is being
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  Speaker 1: put in front of us. The reason I like it
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  Speaker 1: because white society they have created shows like this in
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  Speaker 1: the past and have received these same type of rewards.
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  Speaker 1: But we've never been able to cross over. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we'll never be able to create a culture like they
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  Speaker 1: do Godfather movies all the time, left and right. But
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  Speaker 1: when we were doing stories about our culture, they will
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  Speaker 1: never receive like this is being received, or like power power.
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  Speaker 1: Really they get this credit, but this, this series is
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  Speaker 1: getting this credit to get a one on Rotting Tomatoes.
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  Speaker 1: That's a big wild factor. Jay, Yeah, that's a huge
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  Speaker 1: wild factor. It doesn't happen too often, you know for
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  Speaker 1: some of the largest shows to come out, you know,
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  Speaker 1: white Black lack Team or whatever the uh you know,
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  Speaker 1: the audiences or whatever the show that just doesn't happen.
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  Speaker 1: So what to happen for us or to be a
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  Speaker 1: you know, obviously majority black show, black brand show run
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  Speaker 1: you know, majority black writers. Wrong. Uh, it's a huge accomplishment, man.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, obviously it's one of those things where
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  Speaker 1: that's what it is. It's a mouth stone and you
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  Speaker 1: place that brick where it needs to go. I don't
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  Speaker 1: let it wait too heavily. I mean, you know those
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  Speaker 1: uh you know, critics and things like that, but it
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  Speaker 1: means a lot, and I appreciate the people who take
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  Speaker 1: time to write these reviews. On my show. We'll be
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  Speaker 1: right back with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Now,
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: let's return to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rache McDonald.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna just tell you, Uh, popularity breeds both sides
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  Speaker 1: of the conversation. Okay, ride with the positive brothers, ride
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  Speaker 1: that you living in your heart. Uh, But I gotta
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  Speaker 1: give some love to the actors who plays the character Keyshaw.
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  Speaker 1: I got it. I want to get in your head now, Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Seeing the athleticism, that's that's what we're talking about. Athleticism
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  Speaker 1: on these poles. What what do you know. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm lik oh my god, I'm in disbelief. What what
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  Speaker 1: what are you seeing? Jay? And when you see this
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  Speaker 1: as a guy going physically, this is this is incredible
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  Speaker 1: what they're doing. Man, Pea Valley changed my whole perspective
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  Speaker 1: on pole dancers. And you know, obviously sex workers and
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  Speaker 1: strippers whatever name you want to um call it, I
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  Speaker 1: prefer to call them athletes. And cold dance, right, you
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  Speaker 1: know they have so shout out to Sharon, like you said,
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  Speaker 1: Shannon Thornton, who plays the Shan Jeez put in an
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  Speaker 1: incredible amount of work and then starts also pre Valley.
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  Speaker 1: Also we have these stunt doubles come in and do
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  Speaker 1: the high flying you know, poles dropping almost to the
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  Speaker 1: ground stunts, and you realize, man, you know I could
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  Speaker 1: do a thousand push ups and I still wouldn't be
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  Speaker 1: able to climb up and have the strength that these
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  Speaker 1: women have. And what makes it even more incredible than
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  Speaker 1: black women are doing. And so you see them, they're
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  Speaker 1: almost like these goddess and sitting up down that pole
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  Speaker 1: and turning and flexing every muscle in their body to
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  Speaker 1: you know, do these incredible stunts, and it's beautiful. Man's
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  Speaker 1: mind blowing, especially when you can see it in person
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  Speaker 1: up close. And it's even more mind blowing when you
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  Speaker 1: know they have to do it fifteen times, ten times,
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  Speaker 1: you know how many ever takes we have to do it.
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  Speaker 1: These women and these incredible athletes are getting up here
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  Speaker 1: and making it done, and so our actors, um, they
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  Speaker 1: do a lot of their own stunts as well. But
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  Speaker 1: then it's one of those things where they once they
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  Speaker 1: get tired, they kind of you know, tap in, tag
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  Speaker 1: in and have these come in and do the work.
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  Speaker 1: I wish I knew the stunt uple names, but shout
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  Speaker 1: out to Shannon Door and Brandy Van, you knowl Arrica Johnson,
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  Speaker 1: all of our ladies ll being actors, you know, to
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  Speaker 1: come in and do this incredible j J J. Be
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  Speaker 1: messing up my head, be messing up my head, going like,
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: really they really they bruised up, and I look at them.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: I said, well, if they're not tired, I know, let's
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: go to the second season. You know, we've got some
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: new characters coming into play. Big Teeth is coming in,
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: gotta co roll out of jail. So I'm gonna just
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: tell you this second season has been a nervous season
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  Speaker 1: for me. This tone was kind of set when you
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: came out on the porch and you and the car
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: slowed down and you reached in your back. That set
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: the tone that you live in a violet world. You
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: have a world that has the ability to create violence.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: And this episode here to see and as as as
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: you're on the road, you're out there with Keith John's
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: character out there, y'are doing the Dirty Dozen tour and
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: so take has let out of jail, explained to him
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: him his role, but not too much detail because I
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: want people to watch the show, Yes, sir, Um, Yeah, man,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: he was. He is one of the characters that we
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: love people of one of the new characters. UM. Shout
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: out to the Tory Hall for finding John Stewart. You know,
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: John Stewart was on UM nbbc's uh Zoey's playlists. Also
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: Luke Cage also a lot of theater in New York.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: So I was already uh found with him and his work.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: So when I found out, I had to work opposite
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: of my said, man, this is gonna be powerful. And
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: uh he's another character, man that is very much a
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: real person. UM. You know in our society, people who
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: have been in prison and come out traumatized, um for
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: one because of their sexual orientation and then for two
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: because of just not being there to be acclimated to
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: the real world circumstances. And in his said case, you know,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: it's one of those things where we see this character,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: we know this character in real life, but we're now
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: getting opportunity to see the story played out on on
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: the screen and it's very um, just all levels man,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: without like I said, without given too much a way,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: I don't want to tell too much of this storyline.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: But you see him go through every level of who
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: this man is and struggling with this sexual identity. So
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: it was, like I said, just struggling to be a
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: black man in society. So it's beautiful. And by time
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: we get to the end of the season, Uh, it's
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: a roller coast ride, man. It really does, taking on
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: these very highs and then you have some very loads,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: big character as well as the murder's character. So I'm
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: excited to share that screen with the Well. One thing
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: we can talk about is that in going on the Road,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: you're leaving a love relationship that you're maintaining as you
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: travel and trying to reconnect because you've done some things
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: and kind of damage that particular relationship. So talk about
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: that whole journey that you're putting together there and how
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: that's gonna come across. But I can't give away too much.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not talking about going too far beyond
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: episodes I've seen. I'm talking about emotionally, you know, you
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: made a mistake. This is a love relationship and at
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: the time you could have stood up for him. And
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: that's what he's that's what he's feeling right now, right
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: he's um. You know, it's complex, man. It's one of
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: those things where a little murder. I think it was
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: ready at one point in season one. I don't know
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: if you remember, but when Little Murders came into the
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: office and was telling Clipper, you know, I want to
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: take her on the date. I want to hit us
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: us to be out, and then Clifford, she gave a
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: little murder this really really kind of scary monologue about
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: what could possibly happen to them, and so then that
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: kind of defleted that kind of deflated this confidence around
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: you know, being cool he is, and and they wanting
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: to be as open as possible. And so I don't
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: think he send it to her Cliffords Feelings and Murder
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: episode eight, but it happened. But I think he knew
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: immediately that he had to redeem himself. Some interviewing, j R.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Falls Nicholson that he's one of the stars of p Valley.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: He plays the character a little murder. If you don't
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: know about pe Valley on Rotten Tomatoes, the show confronts
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: and illustration, the realities of domestic violence. It really is
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: dead on suicide. Um, I can't forget. Uh. The church
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: is involved here, the COVID is involved here, the black
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: politics is involved here, a racial division is involved here.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Um humor is involved here. Because they all levels, man,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: all levels Cantoris. She says that pretty often that p
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Valley is dark, is deep, um syrtual, you know, and
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: it just it works on all levels. And it's one
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: of those things where, um, you know, the storytelling, it
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: kind of penetrates through every culture. I think, um cultural
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: crosses cultural boundaries in all types of ways. And like
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: you said, yeah, you're gonna have some dark moments and
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: you gonna have some really funny moment. Shout out to
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: Loretta Vine. She's one of my favorite characters. Are come down,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: come on, now, come on, you know, and all of
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: her comic relief. Man, she's just she's great. She really
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: is one of the best character And obviously Uncle Clipper
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: and what Nico, what he brings to that character, what
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: he brings to her. So and then I think Little
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Murder is funny too, man. Little Murder that a lot
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: of funny moments, but also a lot of dark and heavy.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: I'm just call you a little murder. A little murder.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you, man, I'll be scared for you. Man.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: You know you've been out them to the streets. Brother,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: you can I can't lose your little Murder. I can't
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: lose you. Like I said that that car pulled up,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: I thought they're gonna take you out. You ready, but
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: they that you know, And it's funny that guy who
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: plays that character pull up in the car, one of
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: the characters from Queen and Slim. A lot of people
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: recognize and they knew what he did in that moment.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: So you know, it's just good storytelling about the Tory man.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: But you know, I promise you little Murder ain't going nowhere,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: and uh you know you'll be able to see him
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: end out this journey and season two for sure. Um
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: so without spoiling too much. But thank you for having me, man,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry that I had to look at brother. Don't
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: don't apologize your star stars, don't apologize. You know I'm
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: a bless that I'm able to have a real good conversation. Also,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: let you know that I you know, I'm not just
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: giving you your narrow questions and allowing you to communicate
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: the sincerity of your career what you're doing on the show.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: But if you have not watched the audience, listen to me, y'all.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: If you have not watched P Vallet Sunday's ten pm
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Eastern and Pacific standard time, set you set your time.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Don't even record it because you want to watch it
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: and then talk about it. See, I'm waiting them to
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: do a post show. Yeare the post show, because that's
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: what's coming up, the post show because social media is
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: demanding it. Yeah, that Brittany, y'all need a post season
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: season three. Man, come on, come on. They did it
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: with Power, they did with Power, Let's go do it
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: with P Valley. Okay, but brother, you'd be safe. Man.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: I love your brother and stay strong. And man, tell
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Nico high, my boy John Stewart, he's out of Atlanta.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: He was not playing Big Tico on the show. Tell
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: him high because I interviewed when he was on Zoe's
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: So I got a little family over there working out there. Man.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: We get all y'all on my show, man, and I
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: support y'all. One. Okay, keep winning, okay, brother, yes, sir,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: I will likewise, brother must love to thank you cool.
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