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FBI Dir. Wray Refuses to Answer Whether or Not the Bidens were Shaking Down Foreign Leaders! · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: The FBI director, Christopher Ray was before Congress. It didn't
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  Speaker 1: go very well. Now, if you want to know how
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  Speaker 1: it went down, I'll just give you a perfect example
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  Speaker 1: of the questions that he was asked and how bad
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  Speaker 1: he looked before Congress represented Matt Gates, representing the first
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  Speaker 1: District in Florida.
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  Speaker 2: This was part of their interaction. I'm sitting here with
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  Speaker 2: my father.
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  Speaker 3: I will make certain that between the man sitting next
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  Speaker 3: to me and every person he knows in my ability
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  Speaker 3: to forever hold a grudge, that you will regret not
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  Speaker 3: following my direction. I am sitting here waiting for the
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  Speaker 3: call with my father. Sounds like a shakedown, doesn't a director.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not going to get into commenting on that, will you?
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  Speaker 3: You seem deeply uncurious about it, don't you? Almost suspiciously uncurious?
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  Speaker 3: Are you protecting the bidens? Absolutely not the FBI. You
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  Speaker 3: want to answer the question about whether that's a shakedown,
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  Speaker 3: and everybody knows why you won't answer it because to
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  Speaker 3: the millions of people who will see this, they know
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  Speaker 3: it is. And your inability to acknowledge that is deeply
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  Speaker 3: revealing about.
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  Speaker 1: You, believe deeply revealing about you. Now that's not all
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  Speaker 1: that happened.
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  Speaker 5: Now.
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  Speaker 1: There was also a back and forth with Congressman Chip Rory.
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  Speaker 1: I know Chiprett well, I had dinner with him not
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  Speaker 1: that long ago talking about this issue, and one of
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  Speaker 1: the things that he said that he wanted to get
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  Speaker 1: to the bottom of was who is lying here? He
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  Speaker 1: was able to ask questions of the FBI Director Chris Ray,
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  Speaker 1: and I want you to hear what he had to
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  Speaker 1: say in a more extended conversation for appearing.
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  Speaker 6: Brian Aughten was one of the FBI intelligence analysts who
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  Speaker 6: interviewed Igor Denchenko, the principal source of the Steele dossier,
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  Speaker 6: in January twenty seventeen.
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  Speaker 7: Correct, I believe that's in the Durham report.
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  Speaker 6: And dan Jenko explained that the dossier allegations were BS,
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  Speaker 6: yet the FBI did not reveal that to the FISA
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  Speaker 6: coord The FBI continued to use those allegations and two
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  Speaker 6: more swornet fize applications about President Trump and putin correct, Well.
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  Speaker 7: Again, I want to let mister Durham's report speak for itself.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, but as director of the FBI's those are the
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  Speaker 6: facts of the FBI under your watch.
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  Speaker 7: The FBI can notice I'm sorry, it's important, not under
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  Speaker 7: my watch.
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  Speaker 4: Those are the facts I'm getting. I'm getting the part.
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  Speaker 6: I'm getting to the part under your watch. The FBI
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  Speaker 6: conducted an internal investigation of Auten and sought to suspend him,
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  Speaker 6: but Auten appealed, correct, I.
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  Speaker 7: Can't discuss the specific pending personnel matter.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, Well, according to recent reports, those are the facts. Nevertheless,
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  Speaker 6: than twenty twenty, after Senators Grassling Johnson highlighted evidence of
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  Speaker 6: potential financial crimes and corruption against the Biden family, the
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  Speaker 6: FBI assigned Auten to compile an assessment which was used
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  Speaker 6: to characterize the Biden revelations as Russian disinformation. The evidence
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  Speaker 6: grass Lane Johnson had collected were mostly financial records and
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  Speaker 6: could easily have been corroborated as authentic. And by then
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  Speaker 6: the FBI had the Hunter laptop in its possession for
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  Speaker 6: over a year, so it knew the lucrative payments of
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  Speaker 6: the Bidens from corrupt and anti American regimes were authentic.
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  Speaker 6: How on earth did the FBI empower an agent under
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  Speaker 6: investigation for potentially corrupt performance and abuse of FISA in
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  Speaker 6: one politically fraud investigation, a Democrat operative driven case against
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  Speaker 6: President Trump to play a key role and to undermine
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  Speaker 6: a second politically fraud investigation, a case against the Bidens.
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  Speaker 4: How's that possible?
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  Speaker 6: How can you allow that to occur in the Federal
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  Speaker 6: Bureau of Investigations, my college on other side of the aisle, say,
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  Speaker 6: the elite law enforcement agency of the United States. How
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  Speaker 6: does that occur?
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  Speaker 7: I can't at the moment discuss a pending personnel matter.
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  Speaker 7: I can tell you that every employee who in any
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  Speaker 7: way touched the cross for our hurricane matter has been
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  Speaker 7: referred to our Office of Professional Responsibility Art discip.
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  Speaker 6: Are you concerned about this, this activity by the FBI
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  Speaker 6: and what was communicated to the visa court?
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  Speaker 4: Does that concern you? As the director of the FBI, I.
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  Speaker 7: Consider the conduct that was described in the Durham report
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  Speaker 7: as totally unacceptable and unrepresentative of what I see from
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  Speaker 7: the FBI every day and must never be allowed to
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  Speaker 7: happen again.
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  Speaker 6: And have there been consequences as a result? Is mister
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  Speaker 6: Auten had Has he had consequences?
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  Speaker 8: Well?
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  Speaker 7: Again, I can't speak to pending personnel matters, as you
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  Speaker 7: would perhaps remember from your own time in law enforcement,
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  Speaker 7: because we were working closely with mister Durham and I
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  Speaker 7: assigned agents to help him at his requests. We slowed
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  Speaker 7: down the administrative process to allow his investigation.
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  Speaker 4: To complete itself.
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  Speaker 7: Now that it is complete, our personnel processes are very
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  Speaker 7: much ongoing.
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  Speaker 6: Well. I think it is more than troubling that under
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  Speaker 6: your watch we see that this continued to occur, and
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  Speaker 6: you have Auten being continued to be empowered after there
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  Speaker 6: was an investigation and after there was an effort by
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  Speaker 6: the FBI to look into why he would go to
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  Speaker 6: the FISA court and get wrong information. The issue here
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  Speaker 6: has been wrapped up in a cloud of politics. But
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  Speaker 6: the fact is the American people deserve to know how
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  Speaker 6: the vice of Court is being abused and how it's
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  Speaker 6: being abused against the former president and against them. In
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  Speaker 6: light of the reports that we saw mister Johnson Louisiana
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  Speaker 6: put forward, there wasn't a court filing and a court report.
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  Speaker 1: Chip Roy is very brilliant to go back and remind
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  Speaker 1: people and the FBI director just how rogue the FBI
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  Speaker 1: has become, how far they were willing to go to
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  Speaker 1: go after a former president, to frame that president, to
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  Speaker 1: get rid of that president, to impeach that president. As
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  Speaker 1: you heard the FBI director say, he's like, I'm very
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  Speaker 1: upset with what happened right as he described it, very
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  Speaker 1: upset with what happened with those that were involved in
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  Speaker 1: the Durham Report. Well, have any of them been punished
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  Speaker 1: for this? The answer was obviously no, they've not been
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  Speaker 1: punished for this. Okay, so you haven't punished anyone for
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  Speaker 1: for what they did. That is very troubling. And as
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  Speaker 1: you heard Chris Ray there, well, and this is a
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  Speaker 1: classic example of stonewalling, I can't talk about an active investigation.
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  Speaker 1: I don't believe there is an investigation. I just believe
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  Speaker 1: there's a straight up cover up. There is a difference.
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  Speaker 1: There's also something else here. You may remember January the
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  Speaker 1: sixth and Ray epps Uh. There was another congressman bringing
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  Speaker 1: this up today, the FBI director about ray epps Uh
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  Speaker 1: and and this undercover who is ray epps et cetera.
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  Speaker 1: There were people that thought he was a FBI informant.
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  Speaker 1: There's others say no, he's not, never has been. Listen
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  Speaker 1: to this back and forth, you need to go into.
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  Speaker 9: The capitol, the capitol point to the capitol where problems are.
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  Speaker 9: It's that corrections the work all right, no day.
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  Speaker 10: But one more thing, we go up there. When we
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  Speaker 10: go in, we're gonna share. We don't need to get show.
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  Speaker 11: There.
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  Speaker 9: He is breaching the line going in at the first
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  Speaker 9: breach into the Capitol, into the Capitol grounds in restricted area.
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  Speaker 9: Mister Ray, you have arrested hundreds of people related to
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  Speaker 9: January sixth, and there have been people arrested for breaching
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  Speaker 9: capital grounds. Koeiy Griffin is an example, Rachel Genko is
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  Speaker 9: an example. And then we go to mister Brandon Streca.
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  Speaker 9: Brandon was arrested for disorderly and destructive conduct, which included yelling,
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  Speaker 9: I quote, go go go as rioters tried to empty
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  Speaker 9: the capitol. These three never went into the capitol. They
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  Speaker 9: never assaulted anyone. So let's be honest with each other.
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  Speaker 4: There is very.
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  Speaker 9: Little difference between the actions of Ray Epps and Brandon.
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  Speaker 4: Strica that day.
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  Speaker 9: But yet Strica was arrested and Epps wasn't. Epps also
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  Speaker 9: testified to the January sixth committee he was back at
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  Speaker 9: his hotel when video evans showed.
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  Speaker 4: That he wasn't.
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  Speaker 9: He lied he was on the Capitol grounds just as
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  Speaker 9: Brandon Streca was. Epps even texted his nephew at two
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  Speaker 9: twelve pm and said, I quote, I was in the
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  Speaker 9: front with a few others.
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  Speaker 4: It was on the video. I also orchestrated it.
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  Speaker 9: Now, look into the camera, sir when you answer my
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  Speaker 9: next question, are you going to arrest mister Epps, Yes
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  Speaker 9: or no.
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  Speaker 7: I'm not going to engage here in a discussion about
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  Speaker 7: individual people who.
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  Speaker 4: Are or I get a commitment.
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  Speaker 2: You just watched the video.
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  Speaker 4: I'm an all log dog.
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  Speaker 9: I understand a little bit about probable cause he did
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  Speaker 9: very little. There was very little difference what he did
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  Speaker 9: and mister Strecca, you can see him.
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  Speaker 4: He's encouraging.
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  Speaker 9: I almost think he's insighting riot. He's encouraging people the
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  Speaker 9: night prior to go into the capitol, the day of
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  Speaker 9: go into the capitol, and he was at the first
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  Speaker 9: breach and he breached the restricted area. Everybody a lot
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  Speaker 9: of people getting arrested for not going into the capitol,
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  Speaker 9: but they're in the restricted area. But yeah, Ray Apps
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  Speaker 9: who many people feel fed, fed fed, right, And.
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  Speaker 4: There's a lot of cloud over this.
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  Speaker 9: So my point is this, you arrested a lot of
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  Speaker 9: folks so on laugh of activity. You just saw the video,
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  Speaker 9: and I will try to him rate. If you don't
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  Speaker 9: arrest mister, is there the reason behind it? I believe
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  Speaker 9: you know what it is, and it appears to me
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  Speaker 9: you are protecting this guy. I strongly recommend you get
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  Speaker 9: your house back in order.
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  Speaker 1: With that au bet this congressman again making another point,
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  Speaker 1: we don't know who ray Epps is, right, We have
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  Speaker 1: no idea. We don't know who ray Epps is. But
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  Speaker 1: what we do know it was clear he was inciting
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  Speaker 1: in violence. It was clear that he was inciting a riot.
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  Speaker 1: It was clear that he was advocating and supporting people
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  Speaker 1: going into the building, into the Capitol.
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  Speaker 2: So why is is it that you didn't arrest him?
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  Speaker 4: It is not consense. Go ahead.
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  Speaker 7: It has never been appropriate for an FBI director in
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  Speaker 7: congressional testimony to be weighing in on who is or
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  Speaker 7: isn't going to be arrested and what who is or
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  Speaker 7: isn't going to get charged with.
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  Speaker 4: As a prosecutor's decision.
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  Speaker 7: If you are suggesting that the violence that a capital
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  Speaker 7: at the Capitol on January sixth was part of some
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  Speaker 7: operation orchestrated by FBI sources or FBI agents, the answer
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  Speaker 7: is no, it was not, And to suggest otherwise is
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  Speaker 7: a disservice to our hardworking, dedicated law enforcement profession.
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  Speaker 9: And I respond to that now that the point is,
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  Speaker 9: he was number sixteen on your list.
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  Speaker 4: He was sixteen on your list. You never arrested the gentleman.
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  Speaker 4: Hundreds of Americans, Shame on you.
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  Speaker 12: The chair recognizes the gentleman from Florida for your animist consent.
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  Speaker 2: Mister, you can hear it there.
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  Speaker 1: He wanted to get back in there, right, He wanted
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  Speaker 1: to say, Wow, you don't know what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 2: And he's like, look, there's a double standard.
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  Speaker 1: There's a double stat just like this whistleblower, this FBI whistleblower,
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  Speaker 1: and the irs whistleblowers who come forward. And there's a
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  Speaker 1: whistleblower that used to work with the Bidens who's now
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  Speaker 1: been indicted for fair violations. But guess who hasn't been
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  Speaker 1: indicted the Bidens. There is a double standard there with that,
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  Speaker 1: and everybody knows it. Chris Christy, by the way, going
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  Speaker 1: on TV to defend the FBI director Ray while House
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  Speaker 1: Republicans are grilling him on the hill. So if you
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  Speaker 1: want to know how fast he's willing to go the
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  Speaker 1: other way, listen to what he had to say again,
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  Speaker 1: another sellout over there. Chris Christy wants you to vote
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  Speaker 1: for him, but this is what he's saying defending the
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  Speaker 1: FBI director.
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  Speaker 4: Governor.
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  Speaker 5: I'm sure you saw some of the Chris Ray hearing
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  Speaker 5: across the street from me on Capitol Hill that's been
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  Speaker 5: running on Fox all day. He was an attorney for
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  Speaker 5: you in twenty thirteen during the Bridgegate scandal. I believe
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  Speaker 5: you also recommended him to former President Trump to be
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  Speaker 5: FBI director.
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  Speaker 4: What do you think of.
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  Speaker 5: His tenure there? Has the FBI lost ability? And do
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  Speaker 5: you believe that the reforms that Ray insists that he
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  Speaker 5: has implemented will fix the problems that the FBI has
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  Speaker 5: had in the last few years.
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  Speaker 8: I think they are starting to fix those problems, as
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  Speaker 8: the director talked about today. Look, I've known Chris for
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  Speaker 8: a long time. We worked together in the Bush Justice
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  Speaker 8: Department in the post nine to eleven period, and he
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  Speaker 8: did an extraordinary job. And yeah, proud that I did.
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  Speaker 8: Those things that they were talking about today, and the
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  Speaker 8: director made this point over and over again, are all
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  Speaker 8: things from when Jim Comy, Eric Holder, and Loretta Lynch
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  Speaker 8: were in charge of the Justice Department before he got
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  Speaker 8: put in charge. He fired the entire Comy leadership team
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  Speaker 8: out of the FBI. They're all gone, and he put
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  Speaker 8: these reforms in place which are now showing extraordinary results.
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  Speaker 8: Is it all fixed? Of course, it's not all fixed.
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  Speaker 8: Jim Comy and Eric Holder and Loretta Lynch drastically harmed
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  Speaker 8: the Department of Justice and the FBI, and Chris Ray
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  Speaker 8: has now spent years fixing that. Now they're going to
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  Speaker 8: be disagreements. Of course, They're always going to be disagreement
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  Speaker 8: between Congress and the executive branch, and they would like
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  Speaker 8: more information, and he's got obligations under grand jury rules
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  Speaker 8: to not give everything they want to give. But I
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  Speaker 8: will tell you something. What you saw today, I think
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  Speaker 8: was an animated and combative FBI director who's defending the
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  Speaker 8: men and women who work for him every day and
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  Speaker 8: do a great job and protect us from domestic terrorism,
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  Speaker 8: from international terrorism, and from these drug cartels and are
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  Speaker 8: helping state local law enforcement every day with their things.
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  Speaker 8: So yeah, I think Chris Ray has done a very
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  Speaker 8: good job. And I think look a lot of stuff
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  Speaker 8: you see today, John is theater than people trying to
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  Speaker 8: raise money for campaigns. Doesn't mean there aren't problems that
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  Speaker 8: the FBI. There are, but I believe Chris is a
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  Speaker 8: guy who can get him fixed, and he's fixed a
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  Speaker 8: lot of them already.
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  Speaker 3: Hike.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Christy there is trying to defend the indefensual. He's
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  Speaker 1: going to things that have nothing to do with the bidens. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: he's doing great on this and that and drug trafficking
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  Speaker 1: and everything else.
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  Speaker 2: No, he's not.
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  Speaker 1: We have a wide open border and we have people
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  Speaker 1: coming across that border and they're not charging them with
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  Speaker 1: crimes the way that they're supposed to. So this is
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  Speaker 1: another lie again, this is his buddy, right, And it
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  Speaker 1: actually makes sense the fact that the President took this
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  Speaker 1: FBI director ray because because of Chris Christy tells you
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  Speaker 1: everything you need to know about how much of a
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  Speaker 1: rhino Christy is and and his nominees are. Right, Like,
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  Speaker 1: it's very clear. That's okay, now, it makes sense. Right now,
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  Speaker 1: I actually understand it. I completely comprehend now and understand
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  Speaker 1: how this happened and why this happened, Why we're in
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  Speaker 1: the debacle we're now because we're not putting real statesmen
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  Speaker 1: in these jobs. And if there's anything that the next president,
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  Speaker 1: if they're Republicans, should do is make sure we don't
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  Speaker 1: make mistakes like this ever again, where we have people
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  Speaker 1: in the FBI and the DOJ that, in my opinion,
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  Speaker 1: try to defend the indefensible what you cannot defend. You know,
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  Speaker 1: Chris Rays defending the FBI when he should be overhauling
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  Speaker 1: the FBI. He says, well, I see these men and
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  Speaker 1: women doing great work every day. Well, we see the corruption, sir,
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  Speaker 1: and you need to find the people that are corrupt,
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  Speaker 1: and those the people you need to get rid of
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  Speaker 1: so that the great people men and women are at
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  Speaker 1: the FBI are not undermined like we are clearly seeing
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  Speaker 1: right now, because we are seeing them be undermined. They
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  Speaker 1: are being undermined, and if you watch this, it's very
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  Speaker 1: clear just how much they are being undermined.
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  Speaker 2: There are good people at the FBI.
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  Speaker 1: But I go back to what Matt Gates said, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: and what Matt Gates said in his conversation with Chris
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  Speaker 1: Ray was just so telling because in the way that
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  Speaker 1: he described it, he's like, why are you protecting the bidens?
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  Speaker 1: Because what you're doing is protecting them by default, right,
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  Speaker 1: Why are you not only why are you defending them?
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  Speaker 1: Why are you defending the indefensible by people found you
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  Speaker 1: at the FBI and the d OJ that clearly have
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  Speaker 1: abused their power. Mister Ray, like you're the FBI director,
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  Speaker 1: you should be enraged by this, not defending these actions.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sitting here with my father. I will make certain
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  Speaker 3: that between the man sitting next to me and every
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  Speaker 3: person he knows, and my ability to forever hold a grudge,
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  Speaker 3: that you will regret not following my direction. I am
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  Speaker 3: sitting here waiting for the call with my father. Sounds
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  Speaker 3: like a shakedown, doesn't a director?
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  Speaker 7: I'm not going to get into commenting on that, will you?
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  Speaker 4: You seem deeply uncurious about it, don't you?
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  Speaker 3: Almost suspiciously uncurious?
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  Speaker 4: Are you protecting the bidens? Absolutely not the FBI.
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  Speaker 3: You wan't answer the questions about whether or not that's
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  Speaker 3: a shakedown, and everybody knows why you won't answer it
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  Speaker 3: because to the millions of people who will see this,
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  Speaker 3: they know it is. And your inability to acknowledge that
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  Speaker 3: is deeply revealing about you.
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  Speaker 1: Believe, I agree, it's deeply revealing about him. How is
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  Speaker 1: he not enraged by the people around him that are
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  Speaker 1: abusing the power this way unless he's one of those
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  Speaker 1: that is helping sanction this abuse of power. And that's
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  Speaker 1: part of the conversation here that they need to understand.
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  Speaker 1: You've got so many people playing defense instead of just saying, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I can't defend this right like that would be the
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  Speaker 1: real honest assessment here, That would be saying truthfully here.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Jim Jordan also lit up Chris Ray. And
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  Speaker 1: it's not just the Bidens. And that's why I keep
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: playing different areas. It's January sixth, it's the Still dossier,
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: it's the Crossfire hurricane. Jim Jordan also lit up Chris
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: Ray over the FBI memo targeting Catholics. And again, I
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: think they're laying a case here, and it's an important
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: case that needs to be made that the FBI is
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: broken and rotten to its core now because you've allowed people.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: It's not just the.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Cover up of of the FBI for what they've done
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: with the Bidens, it's all the other things, like targeting Catholics.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: Listen to this.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: You'll remember they targeted Catholics implying they were some sort
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: of domestic terrorists, white supremacist threat to our American society
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: and our national security.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Not that long ago, and what are the FBI do
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: about it? Apparently not a damn thing.
• 18:26
  Speaker 12: Listen, Director, what's the difference between a traditional Catholic and
• 18:29
  Speaker 12: a radical traditional Catholic.
• 18:32
  Speaker 7: I'm not an expert on the Catholic orders.
• 18:36
  Speaker 12: Well, your FBI wrote a memo talking about radical traditional Catholics.
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: I'm just wondering if you can define it for us.
• 18:41
  Speaker 7: Well, what I can tell you is you're referring to
• 18:43
  Speaker 7: the Richmond product, which was a single product by a
• 18:46
  Speaker 7: single field office, which as soon as I found out
• 18:48
  Speaker 7: about it, I was aghasted and ordered it withdrawn and
• 18:51
  Speaker 7: removed from FBI systems.
• 18:53
  Speaker 12: You were a gas And why won't you let us
• 18:54
  Speaker 12: talk to the people who put it together.
• 18:56
  Speaker 7: We are working on finishing an internal review into what happened.
• 19:00
  Speaker 12: You have to wait, We, the Congress, and the American
• 19:02
  Speaker 12: people have to wait until you do an internal review.
• 19:04
  Speaker 12: It's not a criminal investigation going on here, an internal
• 19:07
  Speaker 12: review before we can talk to the people who wrote this.
• 19:10
  Speaker 7: We when we finish our internal review, which will be
• 19:12
  Speaker 7: very soon, we will come come back to the candy
• 19:15
  Speaker 7: in America to provide a briefing on what we found.
• 19:17
  Speaker 12: Well briefing, we want to talk to the people who
• 19:19
  Speaker 12: wrote it. Any idea how many Catholics are in America? Director, No, sir,
• 19:24
  Speaker 12: there's a lot over sixty million. What percentage of those
• 19:27
  Speaker 12: are radical traditional Catholics? According to the Richmond Field offs
• 19:30
  Speaker 12: of the FBI.
• 19:31
  Speaker 7: Again, that product is not something that I will defend
• 19:34
  Speaker 7: or excuse. It's something that I thought was appallsy and
• 19:37
  Speaker 7: removed it.
• 19:38
  Speaker 12: Let's read from that product, page four of that product.
• 19:40
  Speaker 12: By the way, the copy you gave us. When can
• 19:42
  Speaker 12: we get a copy that didn't have all these redactions
• 19:44
  Speaker 12: on it so we can actually see what the American
• 19:47
  Speaker 12: taxpayers were paying for to see their rights, their First
• 19:50
  Speaker 12: Amendment religious liberty rights attacked.
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: Let me just read from page four.
• 19:54
  Speaker 12: Provide new opportunities to mitigate extremists threat through outreach to
• 19:59
  Speaker 12: traditional athlete perishes and the development of sources with the
• 20:03
  Speaker 12: placement and access to report on places of worship. That's
• 20:08
  Speaker 12: pretty fancy language for their trying to put informants in
• 20:11
  Speaker 12: the parish in the church. That's what this memorandum said,
• 20:15
  Speaker 12: Director from one of your field offices.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: And you won't let us talk to the people who
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: did it. In response to that, I didn't know. I
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: was waiting for the question do you.
• 20:24
  Speaker 12: Think priest should be informants inside the church?
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: Director?
• 20:28
  Speaker 7: We do not recruit, open or operate confidential human sources
• 20:33
  Speaker 7: to infiltrate target report.
• 20:35
  Speaker 12: But that's all on religious For what this said, it
• 20:37
  Speaker 12: sounds like you were trying to do it in Richmond, Virginia. No, sir, no,
• 20:41
  Speaker 12: you weren't. That just didn't happen. You can assure us
• 20:43
  Speaker 12: that this didn't happen.
• 20:44
  Speaker 7: That product did not to, as best as we can tell,
• 20:47
  Speaker 7: result in any investigative action as a result of it.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: None.
• 20:51
  Speaker 12: You know what the motivation for this was? Why would
• 20:54
  Speaker 12: they even think about doing this? You know what the
• 20:55
  Speaker 12: motivation was?
• 20:57
  Speaker 7: Well, again, I think that's what our internal review will find,
• 21:00
  Speaker 7: and I'd rather wait until I hear what the results
• 21:01
  Speaker 7: of that internal I.
• 21:02
  Speaker 12: Don't need an internal review. I can read the document.
• 21:05
  Speaker 12: I assume you can do the same, because it says
• 21:07
  Speaker 12: right there on the same page, Richmond assesses extremists interests
• 21:11
  Speaker 12: in radical traditional Catholics is like to likely to increase
• 21:14
  Speaker 12: over the next twelve to twenty four months in the
• 21:17
  Speaker 12: run up to the next general election. Same paragraph events
• 21:21
  Speaker 12: in which extremists and radical traditional Catholics might have common
• 21:24
  Speaker 12: cause include legislation judicial decisions in such areas as abortion rights, immigration,
• 21:30
  Speaker 12: affirmative action, and lgbtqu protections. It's politics, that's the motivation
• 21:37
  Speaker 12: in the run up to the next election, and they
• 21:39
  Speaker 12: talk about the border, affirmative action and abortion rights.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: It's total politics.
• 21:45
  Speaker 12: I mean, I think it's interesting that affirmative we just
• 21:48
  Speaker 12: got a decision from a bunch of Catholics to sit
• 21:50
  Speaker 12: on the United States Supreme Court relative to affirmative action.
• 21:53
  Speaker 12: Politics was the total motivation here, and that's what's scary.
• 21:57
  Speaker 12: That's what's I think so frightening. And why we how
• 22:01
  Speaker 12: this happens, I don't know. And five people signed off
• 22:03
  Speaker 12: on it, five people including the Chief Division Council at
• 22:06
  Speaker 12: the Richmond Field Office. I'd like to talk to this
• 22:09
  Speaker 12: lawyer and a lot of people in this room went
• 22:12
  Speaker 12: to law school of course on the Constitution, talks.
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: About the First Amendment. I find that.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: These are Catholics.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Millions and millions of Americans are Catholics, and the FBI
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: wanted to infiltrate Catholic churches so they could then spy
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: on Catholics.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: That should be front page in his response.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: So they're doing a reternal review sounds exactly like their
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: response to it. To quote investigating the Biden crime family,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: I will work on it. Tell you what happened five
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: years from now. Oh wait, nevermind, statute of limitations kicked down.
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  Speaker 1: There was also another interaction that I want to play
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  Speaker 1: for you, and it was one that was clearly accidental,
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  Speaker 1: not purposeful. But the FBI Director Ray basically confirmed that
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Joe Biden, the President of the United States of America,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: is under criminal investigation for Ukrainian bribes by the US
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Attorney in Delaware. Then, after he realizes he just basically
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  Speaker 1: told that information, he tried to backpedal after realizing exactly
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  Speaker 2: This should be front page news. This just happened.
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  Speaker 1: How in the hell is this not breaking news on
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  Speaker 1: all of our phones right now that the president of
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  Speaker 1: the United States America is apparently under FBI investigation.
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  Speaker 4: Right now, Listen, did Joe Biden take payments from Barisma
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: or any other foreign companies as vice president, president or
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: private citizen Biden.
• 25:10
  Speaker 7: As you may know, there is an ongoing investigation being
• 25:14
  Speaker 7: led by the US Attorney in Delaware, mister Weiss, appointed
• 25:19
  Speaker 7: by President Trump in the last administration, that our Baltimore
• 25:22
  Speaker 7: Field Office is working with, and I would refer.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: You to him as to what, if anything can be sure.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: So the president is under he is under investigation.
• 25:32
  Speaker 7: I'm not going to confirm or speak to who is
• 25:36
  Speaker 7: or isn't under investigation for what I'm simply going to
• 25:38
  Speaker 7: he's not under investigation.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: I didn't say that either.
• 25:41
  Speaker 7: By longstanding Department policy and practice. I'm not going to
• 25:45
  Speaker 7: be confirming or denying is or isn't under investigator.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: I don't even think that Congressman Tiffany actually thought he
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: was going to get this response. There's also something else
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: in there before we get to the fact that he's
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: been basically said by default that the president units it's
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: America is apparently under investigation Delaware by the US Attorney
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: and then has to backpedal it and in saying well.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: I can't confirm or done.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: I I can't tell if he is or isn't referring
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: to the actual sitting president United Sates America. But you
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: notice in there he also got in his political point,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: which I also think tells you it's part of the narrative.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: This is what the Democrats have been pushing. This what
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: the media has been pushing.
• 26:21
  Speaker 8: This what the.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Political talking heads on the left have been pushing. That
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: lice and he said it there Chris Array appointed by
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump. It's one of the most misleading political statements
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: that you can make.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: We know that he was nominated by.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump, but it was not Donald Trump's pick or
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  Speaker 1: a conservative pick. If the two senators from the state
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  Speaker 1: for which you are giving a name for this position
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: do not sign off on that individual, they will not
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: get confirmed. So to be clear, the two senators who
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: are hard word core liberals in Delaware are the ones
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: that pick David Weiss, not Donald J. Trump, as the
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: president of the United States America. That's why it is
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: so misleading. Now this all comes as the House Overside
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Committee has just announced that the irs whistleblower Gary Shapley
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: and whistleblower X will testify at their committee next week.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: Three whistleblowers have.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Provided information about how the Justice Department refused to follow
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: evidence that implicated Joe Biden and tipped off Hunter Biden's attorneys,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: allowing the clock to run out with respect to certain
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: charges and put Hunter Biden on the path to a
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: sweetheart plea deal. The House Overside Committee says this will
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: take place on Wednesday, July the nineteenth, at one pm
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Eastern twelve Central in the Rayburn House Office building. They
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: just officially put that out saying it will take place,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: It will happen. Now you look at how they set
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: up mister, you know, Christopher ray Today they were showing
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: just how corrupt the DOJ and the FBI have become
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: under his leadership. He keeps saying, over and over again, Well,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: you don't understand, you don't understand. I'm proud of the
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: men and women at the FBI. They do great work
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: every day. You don't understand how hard they're working. You
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: don't understand what they're doing. You don't understand, right, Like
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: that said over and over and over again, but he
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: refuses to admit that they screwed up. How many times
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: did you hear him today when they was faced with
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: some of the corruption at the FBI and the DJs
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: as well.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: That made me angry.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: That frustrated me, right, it frustrated me when they were
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: trying to infiltrate Russian are trying to infiltrate Catholic churches
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: and trying to say that Catholics are radical Catholics, right,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: that they're radical Catholics. It's insane, but they keep changing
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: the rules. If you're one of theirs, you can do
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: whatever you want to do, you can break any law
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: you want to break, you can do whatever you want
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: to do. And that's how they're doing it right now.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: You look at the FBI director Ray he also said
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: saying stupid today, saying, oh, well, I put an anti
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: bias training, Well is that working?
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: Clearly not listen to.
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: This have happened.
• 29:36
  Speaker 11: So the confirmation bias, which was brought up time and
• 29:39
  Speaker 11: time again when Durham was here before the committee, you
• 29:44
  Speaker 11: feel those have been addressed. I think Jason Jones says,
• 29:48
  Speaker 11: you put together a letter and that includes a lot
• 29:50
  Speaker 11: of that information.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: Do you feel it's adequate or well?
• 29:54
  Speaker 7: I'm ambitious by nature for us as an organization, so
• 29:57
  Speaker 7: we're constantly looking for more things we can do, but
• 29:59
  Speaker 7: I'll give you an example on this issue of bias,
• 30:01
  Speaker 7: because I think it's so important. One of the things
• 30:04
  Speaker 7: that I did as FBI Director, and I did this
• 30:06
  Speaker 7: a couple of years ago, was in order and as frankly,
• 30:11
  Speaker 7: it was in reaction many ways more to both the
• 30:15
  Speaker 7: Hillary Clinton investigation as well as the Cross for a
• 30:18
  Speaker 7: Hurricane investigation. Was that I put in place training for
• 30:23
  Speaker 7: the entire workforce that focused specifically not just on the
• 30:26
  Speaker 7: importance of avoiding bias, but the importance of avoiding even
• 30:29
  Speaker 7: the appearance of bias. And one of the things that
• 30:31
  Speaker 7: I did to make sure that I was sending that
• 30:33
  Speaker 7: message was that rather than like the Wight normally happens
• 30:37
  Speaker 7: in a bureaucracy where all the training gets saddled on
• 30:40
  Speaker 7: all the folks on the front lines right out of
• 30:42
  Speaker 7: the gates, I started with the top two hundred and
• 30:45
  Speaker 7: three hundred so people in the organization, brought them all
• 30:47
  Speaker 7: to Quantico for an entire day stand down. We heard
• 30:50
  Speaker 7: from the Federal Judiciary, the Inspector General, the Hatch, ACKed
• 30:54
  Speaker 7: Office of Special Counsel, and the whole point of it
• 30:57
  Speaker 7: was the importance of not just objectivity but making sure
• 31:02
  Speaker 7: that we are faithful to the appearance of objectivity as well.
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: And then we had a smaller version of that that
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: went out to the whole workforce. But the idea was to.
• 31:09
  Speaker 7: Send the message that everybody at the top has to
• 31:12
  Speaker 7: take the medicine first.
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: So there's two other things.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is just total political bs right, I'm
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: ambitious by nature. I started with the top two hundred,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: three hundred and so people in the organization, brought them
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: all in to Quantico for an entire dain of bias training,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: because apparently you can break the law and you can
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: go after your political opponents, and then we'll do you
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: some bias training and that'll fix all of your problems.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Chip Roy also said to the FBI director, how can
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: you empower an agent under investigation for potentially corrupt performance
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: to play a key role in the case against the
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Bidens When he was asked him another question about this,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: and again Chris Ray's like, well, you know, I can't
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: talk about the ongoing investigations. You notice everything's about ongoing investigation.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Let's go back to January sixth, for example, Representive Biggs
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: ask a simple question of Director Ray of whether or not.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: The FBI had confidential human sources right in the crowd
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: on January the sixth. Listen to him refuse to answer
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: the question. It's not a hard one. Did you have
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: informant in the crowd?
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Yes? Or no?
• 32:28
  Speaker 13: Former Capitol Police Chief Stevenson reported reportedly as asserted that
• 32:34
  Speaker 13: the protest crowd was filled with federal agents.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: Are you aware of his assertion?
• 32:41
  Speaker 7: I am not.
• 32:42
  Speaker 13: Would you agree with him that it was filled with
• 32:45
  Speaker 13: federal agents on January sixth?
• 32:48
  Speaker 7: I would really have to see more closely exactly what
• 32:51
  Speaker 7: he said and get the full context to be able
• 32:53
  Speaker 7: to evaluate.
• 32:54
  Speaker 13: How many agents were actually agents or human resources. We're
• 33:00
  Speaker 13: president the Capital Complex and vicinity on January sixth.
• 33:04
  Speaker 7: Well, again, it's going to get confusing because it depends
• 33:07
  Speaker 7: on when we deployed and responded to the breach that
• 33:11
  Speaker 7: occurred obviously under federal agents.
• 33:14
  Speaker 13: Sure, no, yeah, you're talking, and you and I both
• 33:17
  Speaker 13: know what. We're talking different things here, and please don't
• 33:21
  Speaker 13: distract here because we're focusing on those who were there
• 33:24
  Speaker 13: in an undercover capacity on January sixth.
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: How many were there?
• 33:28
  Speaker 7: Again, I'm not sure that I can give you that number.
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: As I said here, I'm.
• 33:31
  Speaker 7: Not sure there were undercover agents on scene.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: I can't give you a number. I can't give you
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: a number. Did you hear that I don't know. I'm
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: not sure. I promise you the FBI director can answer
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: this damn question. If you didn't know before January six
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: as sure as hell would have known after January sixth.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: And this is the reason why I have zero faith
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: and the DJ and the FBI now to be honest
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: about any of this. I'm going to have more on
• 34:04
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