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Kamala's October Surprise: Trump is Hitler! plus a Word Salad Mess on a CNN Interview · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome.
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Speaker 2: It is a verdict with Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson
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Speaker 2: with you. I can't believe I'm getting to say this.
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Speaker 2: We are less than two weeks away from election day
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Speaker 2: and Senator Kamala Harris decided to close the deal with
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Speaker 2: a word solid disaster.
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Speaker 1: Of a town hall on CNN. It did not go
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Speaker 1: well well.
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Speaker 3: Her basement strategy has not been working. She tried hiding
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Speaker 3: in Joe Biden's basement and just avoiding everything, and it
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Speaker 3: turned out that the voters actually wanted to hear something
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Speaker 3: from someone who wants to be president of the United States.
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Speaker 3: So then she had a radical strategy. Okay, let's do
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Speaker 3: some interviews. And I got to say every interview she
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Speaker 3: does seems to be worse than the last one. This
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Speaker 3: CNN one is truly a train wreck. We're going to
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Speaker 3: break it down in detail. And I got to say
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Speaker 3: this is also a special time because as we do this,
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Speaker 3: this is coming out Friday morning, and today Kamala Harris
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Speaker 3: will be in Texas. She has decided in the final
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Speaker 3: two weeks of the campaign to come to Texas. Why well,
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Speaker 3: because the Democrat Party has one message and one message
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Speaker 3: only abortion, and she wants to come and push unlimited
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Speaker 3: abortion on demand in all circumstances, with no limitations, because
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Speaker 3: that is about the only thing she's willing to talk about.
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Speaker 3: So we welcome Kamala to Texas. At the same time
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Speaker 3: that she is in Texas, I'm going to be in Austin.
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Speaker 3: Donald Trump is going to be there doing the Joe
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Speaker 3: Rogan podcast. By the way, Kamala was invited, she was
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Speaker 3: supposedly going to do Joe Rogan and then miraculously had
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Speaker 3: a scheduling conflict. Had you know, she had to mower lawn.
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Speaker 3: I'm not sure what she had to do, but she's not.
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Speaker 3: She's not, in fact, doing Joe Rogan. I have to
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Speaker 3: say between the two, I am not remotely conflicted who
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Speaker 3: I'm going to be standing with today.
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Speaker 1: Before we get to.
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Speaker 2: The CNN town hall, there was a very purposeful moment
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Speaker 2: that was created by the Harris campaign, and I think
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Speaker 2: we need to deal with it, and I want to
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Speaker 2: get your reaction. You had Kama Harris call a what
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Speaker 2: many would describe as an emergency press conference outside of
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Speaker 2: her residence, the official residence where the vice president lives,
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Speaker 2: and she had this press conference with the American flag
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Speaker 2: behind her, and she had some words about Donald Trump,
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Speaker 2: which I'm really shocked by this after not one but
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Speaker 2: two in a possible third assassination attempt against Donald Trump.
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Speaker 2: And this is what she said about Donald Trump.
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Speaker 4: It is clear from John Kelly's words that Donald Trump
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Speaker 4: is someone who I quote certainly falls into the general
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Speaker 4: definition of fascists, who in fact vowed to be a
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Speaker 4: dictator on day one and vow to use the military
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Speaker 4: as his personal militia to carry out his personal and
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Speaker 4: political vendettas Donald Trump is increasingly unhinged and unstable, and
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Speaker 4: in a second term, people like John Kelly would not
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Speaker 4: be there to be the guardrails against his propensities and
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Speaker 4: his actions. Those who once tried to stop him from
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Speaker 4: pursuing his worst impulses would no longer be there and
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Speaker 4: no longer be there to rain him in.
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Speaker 1: These words are shocking.
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Speaker 2: She is saying Donald Trump is going to be Adolf Hitler,
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Speaker 2: and I worry that she's trying to get the man
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Speaker 2: killed by inspiring a crazy person who will hear these
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Speaker 2: words and say, well, I must stop him. I cannot
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Speaker 2: believe we're even having this conversation center. It makes me
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Speaker 2: angry that this is the Democratic candidate who's I believe,
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Speaker 2: putting his life in more danger.
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Speaker 3: Well, I think Kamala Harris is feeling desperate. I think
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Speaker 3: her campaign is feeling desperate. I think they see the
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Speaker 3: election slipping away from them. I think they see the
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Speaker 3: momentum is going with Trump every day. I think everything
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Speaker 3: they try to change the momentum is failing. And so,
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Speaker 3: you know, it really is fairly remarkable when they say, Okay,
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Speaker 3: here's our great strategy. Let's call an emergency press conference
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Speaker 3: to call Trump hitler. That's their strategy. Now, never mind
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Speaker 3: that they've been calling Donald Trump hitler for a decade now,
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Speaker 3: they call Donald Trump hitler in twenty sixteen, they called
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Speaker 3: it hitler in twenty twenty. I do find it amazing
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Speaker 3: that just over a week away from election day, their
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Speaker 3: great October surprise is I know, we're gonna call him hitler.
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Speaker 3: No one will see that coming. And you know, look,
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Speaker 3: I really do have to wonder what undecided voter do
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Speaker 3: they think they're they're swaying, like, is there any person
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Speaker 3: alive that doesn't know that Kamala and all of the
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Speaker 3: crazed partisans have convinced themselves that Trump is hitler, like
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Speaker 3: they've been saying that. And by the way, to be clear,
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Speaker 3: before Trump, they called George W.
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Speaker 5: Bush hitler.
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Speaker 3: In fact, you would have signs Bush hitler you were
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Speaker 3: in the Bush White House. That was their talking point.
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Speaker 3: And by the way, if you go back, Democrats also
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Speaker 3: called Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon hitler. I mean this
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Speaker 3: is that they sort of have one. You know, when
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Speaker 3: they're really worried, they just say you're hitler. And by
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Speaker 3: the way, you know hitler was one of, if not
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Speaker 3: the most evil human being to have ever lived in
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Speaker 3: all time. He exterminated millions of peace people, He carried
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Speaker 3: out genocides, He set up concentration camps. Like, that's a
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Speaker 3: pretty high bar for someone to be Hitler. Like, Like,
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Speaker 3: you know, you can say, okay, Paul pot I mean,
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Speaker 3: that's someone that you could put in the same category
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Speaker 3: as Hitler Stalin like people who have committed mass murder
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Speaker 3: in the millions. It's a fairly small category of people
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Speaker 3: who you can with any shred of credibility put in
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Speaker 3: the same category as Hitler. But for today's Democrats, and
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Speaker 3: sadly even for some of yesterday's Democrats, that category also
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Speaker 3: includes every Republican presidential candidate who's ever run. Is comparable
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Speaker 3: to murdering millions. And I got to say this whole
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Speaker 3: he's going to be a fascist, He's going to be
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Speaker 3: a dictator. They run into two problems. Number One, Trump
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Speaker 3: was president, so maybe they could say in twenty sixteen,
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Speaker 3: he's going to do this because he hadn't been president,
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Speaker 3: people didn't know for sure what he'd do. But he
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Speaker 3: was president all of twenty seventeen, eighteen, twenty nineteen, twenty twenty.
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Speaker 3: He was not a dictator. He implemented policy through following
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Speaker 3: the Constitution, through passing legislation through the House the Senate,
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Speaker 3: signing it into law. He got us out of wars.
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Speaker 3: The policy that he implemented, tax policy, regulatory policy produced
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Speaker 3: incredible prosperity. We had peace and prosperity across the globe.
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Speaker 3: So this like, oh my goodness, he'll suddenly become a dictator.
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Speaker 3: They run into a problem of reality. The second problem
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Speaker 3: they run into is by any measure, by any fair
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Speaker 3: and objective measure, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have been
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Speaker 3: much more dictatorial, to use their term, much more fascist
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Speaker 3: than Trump was. We now have two presidencies to compare
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Speaker 3: side by side. Let me ask you, how many times
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Speaker 3: did Donald Trump prosecute his opponent and and leading contender
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Speaker 3: for president.
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Speaker 1: Zero?
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Speaker 3: That would be zero. The Democrats have done it four times,
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Speaker 3: shattering all precedent in American history. You know, you look
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Speaker 3: at you look at weaponization, and we talk about weaponization
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Speaker 3: a lot. Using the Department of Justice to go after
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Speaker 3: your enemies, to persecute your enemies, that's something Joe Biden,
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Speaker 3: Kamala Harris, they do over and over and over again.
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Speaker 3: Donald Trump didn't do that. You didn't see So we've
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Speaker 3: seen swat teams bursting into the homes of pro life
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Speaker 3: activists at dawn with machine guns drawn. When Trump was president,
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Speaker 3: did you send a swat teams bursting into pro choice
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Speaker 3: activists and arresting them at dawn? No, never, it was.
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Speaker 3: It is entirely one sided. And by the way, they're
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Speaker 3: big answer to everything is January sixth. January sixth. Yes,
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Speaker 3: there were acts of violence on January sixth. There was
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Speaker 3: also a lot of peaceful protests on January sixth. There
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Speaker 3: were both. Is very simple. If you commit an act
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Speaker 3: of violence, you should be prosecuted. That includes people who
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Speaker 3: I might agree with, whether I agree with you or not.
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Speaker 3: If you violently assault someone, if you assault a police officer,
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Speaker 3: you should be prosecuted. That's true for right wing, left
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Speaker 3: wing or anything else. Now, by the way, if you
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Speaker 3: engage in peaceful protest, you should not. And what Joe
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Speaker 3: Biden and Kamala Harris have done is they've used the
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Speaker 3: violent actions of a limited number of people as an
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Speaker 3: excuse to persecute hundreds or even thousands who engaged on
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Speaker 3: peaceful protests on January sixth, Standing in the mall, waving
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Speaker 3: a flag, singing God bless America is not violent conduct,
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Speaker 3: and yet they have used that to target and persecute them.
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Speaker 3: And by the way, again at they they look away
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Speaker 3: from violence when they agree with with the perpetators. So
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Speaker 3: Black Lives Matter and Antifa riots, those are not They're
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Speaker 3: not just fine. I wasn't gonna say they're fine. Tim
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Speaker 3: Watz won't send in the National Guarden, Kamala harrises bail
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Speaker 3: money to bail out the violent rioters. And so this argument,
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Speaker 3: I think the screaming Trump is hitler is really a
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Speaker 3: sign of fear and desperation that they just don't have
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Speaker 3: anything else.
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Speaker 2: It worries me too, because it's like, you guys know,
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Speaker 2: in the same party, you heard it last week when
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Speaker 2: Barack Obama's like, well, civility is gone and we need
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Speaker 2: stability back, and it's somehow the Republicans fault and then
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Speaker 2: immediately they're like, oh, in side, note, this guy should
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Speaker 2: be in jail. He can't be trusted and he could
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Speaker 2: be hitler. And when we know that their rhetoric has
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Speaker 2: clearly had an impact on people trying to take him
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Speaker 2: out I am shocked that the media has not called
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Speaker 2: her out for this moment, because they didn't, and in fact,
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Speaker 2: she walked straight over from there basically to this CNN
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Speaker 2: town hall, and it was supposed to be a closing
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Speaker 2: argument for people watching CNN and for undecides. They weren't
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Speaker 2: trying to convince conservatives to vote for her. Obviously, it's
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Speaker 2: going to be an easier interview at CNN Anderson Cooper.
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Speaker 2: This is a friendly audience for her. This should be
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Speaker 2: like shooting fish in a barrel. And it didn't go well,
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Speaker 2: which it was a word Saladay. I was watching it, going,
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Speaker 2: can they please extend the interview and make this a
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Speaker 2: two hour town hall because it's only helping Trump?
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Speaker 3: From what I was watching, Well, look, to be fair,
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Speaker 3: you're you're a right wing partisan. So surely no one
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Speaker 3: who agrees with Kamala could have thought that. Oh wait, wait,
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Speaker 3: anyone watching that thought that if you're not inclined to
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Speaker 3: trust Ben Ferguson, And by the way, if you're a
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Speaker 3: regular listener to the podcast, I'd be surprised if you're
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Speaker 3: not inclined to trust Ben Ferguson. But for sake of argument,
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Speaker 3: let's say you're not. How about David Axelrod, What did
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Speaker 3: David Axelrod think of Kamala's performance?
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Speaker 1: Take a listen to this.
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Speaker 6: I thus it would concern me is when she doesn't
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Speaker 6: want to answer a question, her habit is to kind
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Speaker 6: of go to a world word salad city. And she
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Speaker 6: did that on a couple of answers. One was on Israel,
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Speaker 6: Anderson asked the direct question, would you be stronger in
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Speaker 6: his then Trump? And there was a seven minute answer,
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Speaker 6: but none of it related to the question he was asking.
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Speaker 6: And so you know, on certain questions like that on immigration,
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Speaker 6: I thought she missed an opportunity because she would acknowledge
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Speaker 6: no concerns about any of the administration's policies.
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Speaker 5: And that's a mistake.
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Speaker 6: Sometimes you have to concede things, and she didn't conceive much.
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Speaker 6: But I'll tell you something John King mentioned Bill Clinton.
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Speaker 6: No one's going to be Bill Clinton, but you do
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Speaker 6: want to relate to the people in front of you.
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Speaker 5: She didn't do a lot of that.
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Speaker 6: She didn't ask them questions, she didn't address them particularly,
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Speaker 6: so she was giving set pieces too much.
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Speaker 1: I mean he said a word salad. I mean she's
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Speaker 1: a master.
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Speaker 2: She's gone pro it's saying nothing in response to wrote questions.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well look at it. An Exelrod is actually accurate
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Speaker 3: as to why she's doing it because she has memorized
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Speaker 3: set pieces that she says, and whatever question you ask,
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Speaker 3: she just says the words that that she's memorized. And
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Speaker 3: and there was another component that he said that is right,
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Speaker 3: which is acknowledging mistakes. Listen, credibility matters, you know. I
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Speaker 3: think back to when I was arguing cases in court,
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Speaker 3: it was arguing cases before the Supreme Court that that
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Speaker 3: that I would always try as an advocate to acknowledge
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Speaker 3: the weakest points of my argument, whether the weakest facts
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Speaker 3: in the case or the weakest case law if there
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Speaker 3: was if there was a fact that was a problem
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Speaker 3: in my case, I wouldn't try to run away from it.
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Speaker 3: I'd say, yeah, this is a problem, but here's why
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Speaker 3: I think my client prevails anyway. So you acknowledge it,
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Speaker 3: you even the phrases put a lantern on it. You
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Speaker 3: would you admit, okay, this is a problem, but then
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Speaker 3: you give the argument why you think you should win anyway.
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Speaker 3: And and look, I want to start with with with
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Speaker 3: Cooper asked for what her biggest weakness. Now, this is
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Speaker 3: not a complicated question to figure out. You think about
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Speaker 3: just about every job interview that a intern to from
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Speaker 3: an intern down to a senior position. What's your biggest
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Speaker 3: weakness is a very typical job interview question. But her answer,
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Speaker 2: here is he's again not a tough question from Anderson Cooper.
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Speaker 1: What are your weaknesses? Take a listen.
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Speaker 7: Weaknesses do you bring to the table and how do
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Speaker 7: you plan to overcome them?
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Speaker 5: While you're in office.
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Speaker 8: That's a great question, Joe.
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Speaker 4: Well, I am certainly not perfect, so let's start there.
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Speaker 8: And I think that.
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Speaker 4: I perhaps a weakness, some would say, but I actually
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Speaker 4: think it's the strength as I really do value having
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Speaker 4: a team of very smart people around me who bring
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Speaker 4: to my decision making process different perspectives. My team will
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Speaker 4: tell you I am constantly saying let's kick the.
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Speaker 8: Tire on, that, let's kick the tires on it.
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Speaker 9: Is there something you can point to in your life,
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Speaker 9: political life, or in your life in the last four
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Speaker 9: years that you think is a mistake that you have
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Speaker 9: learned from.
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Speaker 4: I mean I've made many mistakes range from you know,
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Speaker 4: if you've ever parented a child, you know you make
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Speaker 4: lots of mistakes. In my role as vice president, I
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Speaker 4: mean I've probably worked very hard at making sure that
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Speaker 4: I am well versed on issues, and I think that
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Speaker 4: is very important. It's a mistake not to be well
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Speaker 4: versed on an issue and feel compelled to answer a question.
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Speaker 3: So let me get this straight. Her greatest weakness is
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Speaker 3: she surrounds herself with an amazing team who love America,
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Speaker 3: who work incredibly hard, who just get to the bottom
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Speaker 3: of every issue carefully with Nuance. And by the way,
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Speaker 3: they are diverse team, so they have different views, so
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Speaker 3: they consider the pros and cons. That's her weakness, mind you,
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Speaker 3: but it's not nearly as good as her greatest mistake.
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Speaker 3: Her greatest mistake is, you know, gosh darn it, I
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Speaker 3: work too hard to get it right. I prepare too much.
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Speaker 3: I just make everything so good that that's the mistake
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Speaker 3: I've learned is well, it'd be a mistake not to
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Speaker 3: do what I do, which is do everything perfectly. Like
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Speaker 3: holy crap. I seriously, if you were interviewing an intern
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Speaker 3: and they gave you that answer, would you even continue
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Speaker 3: the interview? Orld just be like, all right, look, good
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Speaker 3: luck to you. You'll find a job somewhere that's not
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Speaker 3: going to be here.
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Speaker 1: No, that's exactly if you were saying what you would do.
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Speaker 2: It's also funny, and I don't know if you saw
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Speaker 2: this going viral center, but it was creepily similar the
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Speaker 2: beginning of her response to a scene out of the
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Speaker 2: TV show The Office.
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Speaker 1: We're in a job interview.
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Speaker 2: They asked the main character see Carell, the same exact question,
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Speaker 2: and he gives her answer, or she gives his answer.
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Speaker 2: From the Office, almost verbatim, and it's gone viral. It's like,
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Speaker 2: what did she prep for? Did she learn everything from
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Speaker 2: watching The Office? Because there's almost a side by side
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Speaker 2: ridiculous answer.
19:55
Speaker 1: And the funny part is the Office.
19:57
Speaker 2: The whole point of it was the the absurd and
20:01
Speaker 2: insane and hilarious answers.
20:03
Speaker 1: Right, it's not written to be real, it's written to
20:05
Speaker 1: be absurd.
20:07
Speaker 2: And yet her answer is almost identical to the actual
20:10
Speaker 2: words in the scene in the Office.
20:12
Speaker 1: You can't make that up.
20:13
Speaker 3: Yeah, and look, it goes back to David Axod's point.
20:17
Speaker 3: You get credibility by acknowledging mistakes. Now she's unable to
20:20
Speaker 3: acknowledge any weaknesses whatsoever. She's unable to acknowledge any mistakes whatsoever.
20:25
Speaker 3: But that's not just in the generic. Let's take the specifics.
20:28
Speaker 3: The easiest thing to say would be on the Southern border. Listen,
20:33
Speaker 3: what's happened has been a mess, but we're going to
20:35
Speaker 3: fix it. But when she's asked about the policies that
20:41
Speaker 3: she and Joe Biden put in place that caused this
20:43
Speaker 3: invasion on the southern border, she acknowledges nothing. Listen to
20:47
Speaker 3: her answer on this one, do.
20:49
Speaker 9: You wish you'd done those executive orders in twenty twenty two,
20:51
Speaker 9: twenty twenty three.
20:52
Speaker 8: I think we did the right thing.
20:54
Speaker 4: But the best thing that can happen for the American
20:57
Speaker 4: people is that we have bipartisan happening. And I pledge
21:01
Speaker 4: to you that I will work across the aisle to
21:05
Speaker 4: fix this long standing problem. I think the American people
21:08
Speaker 4: are demanding it on both sides of the aisle, and
21:12
Speaker 4: it's time we actually put the partisan approach to this aside.
21:16
Speaker 8: We know what can work, well, lit'sten.
21:18
Speaker 1: We know it can work.
21:19
Speaker 2: One hell of a way to end a question like
21:21
Speaker 2: that saying that you're the one that created the problem,
21:24
Speaker 2: but somehow it's got to be bipartisan, and we know
21:26
Speaker 2: it can work when you're the one that allowed all
21:28
Speaker 2: these people to come in this country with a wide
21:30
Speaker 2: open border as the borders are.
21:32
Speaker 3: Well, and it's amazing to say. I think we did
21:33
Speaker 3: the right thing. I was absolutely right. When Joe Biden
21:36
Speaker 3: and I came into office, we inherited the lowest rate
21:39
Speaker 3: of illegal immigration in forty five years. We undid that
21:42
Speaker 3: on day one, and we cause the worst rate of
21:44
Speaker 3: illegal immigration in history.
21:46
Speaker 5: I think we did the.
21:47
Speaker 3: Right thing like acknowledging nothing saying nothing, And by the
21:54
Speaker 3: way she goes on that there is also an element
22:00
Speaker 3: part of acknowledging mistakes is is occasionally having some graciousness
22:04
Speaker 3: to concede something positive about your opponent. When Anderson Cooper
22:09
Speaker 3: asked her about the border wall, listen to what she
22:11
Speaker 3: says about this.
22:12
Speaker 9: Donald Trump, you criticized the wall more than fifty times.
22:15
Speaker 9: You called it stupid, useless, and a medieval vanity project.
22:20
Speaker 5: Is a border wall stupid?
22:22
Speaker 4: Well, let's talk about Donald Trump and that border wall.
22:25
Speaker 4: So remember Donald Trump said Mexico would pay for it,
22:30
Speaker 4: Come on, they didn't. How much of that wall did
22:33
Speaker 4: he build? I think the last number I saw was
22:35
Speaker 4: about two percent. And then when it came time for
22:37
Speaker 4: him to do a photo op, you know where he
22:39
Speaker 4: did it in the part of the wall that President
22:41
Speaker 4: Obama built.
22:42
Speaker 9: But you're agreed to a bill that would ear mark
22:44
Speaker 9: six hundred and fifty million dollars to continue building that.
22:47
Speaker 4: Way, I pledged that I am going to bring forward
22:50
Speaker 4: that bipartisan bill to further strengthen and secure our border. Yes,
22:56
Speaker 4: I am, and I am going to work across the
22:58
Speaker 4: aisle to as a comprehensive bill that deals with a
23:04
Speaker 4: broken immigration system. I think Jackson's question part of it
23:09
Speaker 4: was to acknowledge that America has always had migration, but
23:15
Speaker 4: there needs to be.
23:15
Speaker 8: A legal process for it. People have to earn it.
23:20
Speaker 4: And that's the point that I think is the most
23:22
Speaker 4: important point that can be made, which is we need
23:24
Speaker 4: a president oh is grounded in common sense and practical outcomes,
23:30
Speaker 4: like let's just fix this thing. Let's just fix it.
23:33
Speaker 4: Why is there any ideological perspective on let's just fix
23:37
Speaker 4: the problem.
23:38
Speaker 9: To fix the problem, you're doing this compromise bill. It
23:41
Speaker 9: does call for six hundred and fifty million dollars that
23:44
Speaker 9: was ear marked under Trump to actually still go to
23:46
Speaker 9: build the world.
23:47
Speaker 8: I'm not afraid of good ideas where they occurred.
23:49
Speaker 5: Say you don't think it's stupid anymore.
23:51
Speaker 4: I think what he did and how he did it
23:54
Speaker 4: was did not make much sense because he actually didn't
23:56
Speaker 4: do much of anything. I just talked about that wall,
24:00
Speaker 4: all right, we just talked about it. He didn't actually
24:02
Speaker 4: do much of anything.
24:03
Speaker 5: But you do want to build some wall.
24:06
Speaker 8: I want to strengthen our border.
24:08
Speaker 1: So which one is it? She wants to strengthen our border.
24:10
Speaker 2: She wants to build the wall, but the wall is
24:12
Speaker 2: stupid if she doesn't build it. And it's a wall
24:15
Speaker 2: that she said she would never build and she would
24:17
Speaker 2: tear down.
24:18
Speaker 3: So what she said was incoherent, it was factually wrong. Actually,
24:22
Speaker 3: Donald Trump built a substantial amount of wall, and at
24:25
Speaker 3: every inch of that wall that was built, Kamala Harris
24:28
Speaker 3: was fighting against it. Every single time she had a
24:31
Speaker 3: chance to vote on it, she voted against it. She's
24:33
Speaker 3: opposed a border wall every single day she's been in
24:36
Speaker 3: the Senate. I know that because I've been there with
24:38
Speaker 3: her every single day she's been at the Senate. At
24:41
Speaker 3: every stage, her answer was no, no, on any vote.
24:45
Speaker 3: By the way, I'm the author of Kate's Law. Kate's
24:48
Speaker 3: Law is named for Kate Steinley, a beautiful twenty eight
24:53
Speaker 3: year old California woman who was murdered on a California pier,
24:58
Speaker 3: shot through the heart by an illegal immigrant who had
25:01
Speaker 3: been in and out of jail over and over and
25:03
Speaker 3: over again, had been deported repeatedly, over and over and
25:06
Speaker 3: over again, and the revolving door system of illegal immigration
25:10
Speaker 3: just kept letting him back in. Kate's Law says that
25:12
Speaker 3: anyone who is a repeat illegal immigrant who is an
25:14
Speaker 3: aggravated felon would face a mandatory minimum prison sentence. An
25:19
Speaker 3: overwhelming majority of Americans agree with that. A super majority
25:24
Speaker 3: of Americans agree with Kate's law, and yet twice I
25:27
Speaker 3: forced to vote on Kate's law on the floor of
25:29
Speaker 3: the Senate and Kamala Harris happily voted against it. So
25:32
Speaker 3: her claiming that she wants to secure the border, no
25:35
Speaker 3: she doesn't, because she's opposed it at every stage. She
25:39
Speaker 3: can't acknowledge him when she claims, oh, Donald Trump did nothing, Well,
25:42
Speaker 3: what about the fact that we produce the lowest rate
25:45
Speaker 3: of illegal immigration in forty five years? Do you acknowledge
25:48
Speaker 3: that at all? Note she does not admit anything, and
25:51
Speaker 3: her claim that, well, he did nothing. What he did
25:54
Speaker 3: was a joke. But I'm going to do something because
25:57
Speaker 3: now suddenly the thing I fought against at every stage,
26:00
Speaker 3: I'll do But not really. But by the way, we
26:03
Speaker 3: made no mistakes when it came to the board.
26:05
Speaker 2: This is I do believe, going to be the Achilles
26:08
Speaker 2: Hill for her on election day. And that is this
26:11
Speaker 2: overall lack of cohesion of ideas. I think the flip
26:15
Speaker 2: flopping is hurting her, which brings me to what she's
26:19
Speaker 2: doing today in Texas. She's not coming to campaign necessarily
26:26
Speaker 2: in Texas, because I don't think she believes she's going
26:28
Speaker 2: to win in Texas. She is coming, however, to attack
26:32
Speaker 2: Texas and Texas laws to say to the rest of
26:36
Speaker 2: the country, better vote for me, so that you don't
26:38
Speaker 2: have people and things and ideas that actually are brought
26:43
Speaker 2: to light like they've done in Texas that go against
26:45
Speaker 2: what we believe in, which is, for example, abortion on demand.
26:49
Speaker 2: This is a very interesting and radical strategy all at
26:52
Speaker 2: the same time.
26:52
Speaker 1: Do you believe it's going to work? Well?
26:55
Speaker 3: I don't, and I think Kamala one of the things
26:58
Speaker 3: that Left has decided is that they are going to
27:00
Speaker 3: describe Texas as this horrible hell hole and like her
27:03
Speaker 3: message is going to be vote for me to avoid
27:07
Speaker 3: America becoming like Texas. And I got to say, you
27:11
Speaker 3: do have sort of facts in reality that crashes into that,
27:14
Speaker 3: which is, for more than a decade, Texas has had
27:17
Speaker 3: over one thousand people a day moving to our state.
27:21
Speaker 3: People are voting with their feet. They want to be here.
27:23
Speaker 3: And where do they come from. They come from bright
27:25
Speaker 3: blue states, They come from her state. They come from California,
27:28
Speaker 3: they come from Illinois, they come from New York, they
27:30
Speaker 3: come from New Jersey, they come from Connecticut. They come
27:33
Speaker 3: from states that have adopted these high tax, high regulation,
27:39
Speaker 3: terrible environment for small businesses, terrible environment for jobs. And
27:44
Speaker 3: then soft on crime. And by the way, let's listen
27:48
Speaker 3: to her answer when she was confronted about her soft
27:51
Speaker 3: on crime policies. Let's listen to what she says on that.
27:55
Speaker 4: On the issue of law and order, as you mentioned,
27:57
Speaker 4: I think there's just a whole lot of misinformation. To
28:00
Speaker 4: be honest with you, I have personally prosecuted very serious crime.
28:06
Speaker 4: It's how I started my career. I spent most of
28:09
Speaker 4: my career as a prosecutor, not.
28:11
Speaker 8: In Washington, D C.
28:13
Speaker 4: And as my first priority had and remains as a
28:17
Speaker 4: first prior to me, the safety of the American people.
28:20
Speaker 8: So that has not changed.
28:22
Speaker 4: And sadly, I think that there's a bit of misinformation,
28:25
Speaker 4: if not more than a bit. But I'm glad that
28:28
Speaker 4: you raised the subject so that I can address it.
28:31
Speaker 1: She again generalities, no actual real answer the.
28:35
Speaker 3: Question, Yeah, does she address true or false? You have
28:38
Speaker 3: repeatedly called for defunding the police. Answer true, true or false.
28:41
Speaker 3: You've voted for defunding the police. Answer true, true or false.
28:44
Speaker 3: You've called for abolishing and defunding ICE. Answer true, true
28:48
Speaker 3: or false. You've called for shutting down ICE detention centers
28:51
Speaker 3: and pledged to do so on your first day as president.
28:53
Speaker 3: Answer true, true or false. You've advocated for releasing violent
28:57
Speaker 3: criminals from jail true true or false. You've advocated for
29:00
Speaker 3: ending cash bail and letting criminals out without even paying bail. True,
29:05
Speaker 3: true or false. You have advocating for decriminalizing illegal border
29:09
Speaker 3: crossings true all true or false. You raised bail money
29:14
Speaker 3: to bail out violent rioters in Minneapolis. Answer true. Now,
29:21
Speaker 3: in the face of all those facts, what does she
29:22
Speaker 3: say misinformation, by the way, with no counter narrative, she
29:26
Speaker 3: just says, no, no, no, I'm a prosecutor. Look I
29:29
Speaker 3: was raised in the middle class. Look I'm a prosecutor.
29:31
Speaker 3: Those are her two crutches that she goes to repeatedly,
29:35
Speaker 3: but then she actually does not address anything that resembles facts.
29:40
Speaker 2: Let me also ask you another question about this town hall,
29:44
Speaker 2: and it dealt with her plan, and it's the socialist plan,
29:48
Speaker 2: her plan on groceries.
29:50
Speaker 1: She's now tripling down. She tried to run away from it.
29:53
Speaker 2: That didn't work, so now she's back at it again, saying,
29:56
Speaker 2: if you vote for me, I'm going to give you
29:58
Speaker 2: a communist price control. She was actually asked a question
30:02
Speaker 2: from someone in the audience about this.
30:04
Speaker 1: Listen.
30:05
Speaker 7: Ices have gone up quite a bit in the last
30:08
Speaker 7: four years, and some people blame former President Trump, some
30:11
Speaker 7: people blame President Biden. Who would you say is correct
30:15
Speaker 7: and what would you do to bring prices down for Americans?
30:19
Speaker 4: Thank you, Eric, and you're absolutely right. You know what,
30:21
Speaker 4: I know what I think most Americans know it. Price
30:23
Speaker 4: and grocery is still too high, and we need to
30:26
Speaker 4: address it in a number of ways. One of my
30:29
Speaker 4: aspects of doing what we need to do to bring
30:31
Speaker 4: down the cost of living for working people in the
30:33
Speaker 4: middle class in America is to address the issue of
30:36
Speaker 4: grocery prices. Part of my background and how I come
30:39
Speaker 4: to it is probably a new approach grounded in a
30:42
Speaker 4: lot of my experiences as a former Attorney general where
30:45
Speaker 4: I took on price gouging, and part of my plan
30:49
Speaker 4: is to create a new approach. That is the first
30:52
Speaker 4: time that we will have a national ban on price
30:54
Speaker 4: gouging I.
30:56
Speaker 2: Mean, that seems like the most ridiculous answer, this national
31:01
Speaker 2: ban on price gouging.
31:02
Speaker 1: We already have a lot of laws on price gouging.
31:05
Speaker 2: A lot of states have those laws, and they're the
31:07
Speaker 2: ones that usually are implementing them. So what is she
31:10
Speaker 2: actually offering up here that everybody that has that's as
31:14
Speaker 2: a big story is evil if I don't like their
31:16
Speaker 2: price today.
31:17
Speaker 3: Well, and listen, in the grocery context, it's it's particularly absurd.
31:21
Speaker 3: So states that have price gouging laws, and by the way,
31:23
Speaker 3: Texas has a price gouging laws law, they are typically
31:27
Speaker 3: focused on emergency. So if you have, say a hurricane,
31:30
Speaker 3: price gouging laws are if if you know, ordinarily you
31:35
Speaker 3: charge a dollar for a bottle of water, and a
31:38
Speaker 3: hurricane hits and you decide you're going to charge fifty
31:41
Speaker 3: dollars for a bottle of water. That's when price gouging
31:45
Speaker 3: kicks in. Is that when you're taking a disaster and
31:48
Speaker 3: just taking advantage of people in a time of crisis.
31:51
Speaker 3: And states do have laws for that. They don't apply
31:54
Speaker 3: just to day in day out the ordinary pricing of
31:57
Speaker 3: goods and services, and particular in the grocery context, that
32:01
Speaker 3: the average profit margin in a grocery store is typically
32:05
Speaker 3: one or two percent. So the idea that that the
32:08
Speaker 3: FEDS are going to come like forced grocery stores, it's
32:12
Speaker 3: it's it's you know, big grocery that that that that
32:15
Speaker 3: is the cause of inflation, rather than the disastrous policy
32:18
Speaker 3: she's she has led, is asinine. But I will say,
32:24
Speaker 3: look look to Anderson Cooper's question. You know, to his credit,
32:31
Speaker 3: he pointed out, wait a second, you're in the White
32:33
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32:36
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32:38
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32:41
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32:43
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Speaker 1: Take a listen.
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Speaker 2: Simple question from Anderson Cooper asked to Kamway Harris, and
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Speaker 2: her response is laughable.
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Speaker 9: Some voters, though, might ask, you've been in the White
35:12
Speaker 9: House for four years. You were vice president, not the president,
35:14
Speaker 9: But why wasn't any of that done over the last
35:17
Speaker 9: four years.
35:19
Speaker 4: Well, there was a lot that was done, but there's
35:20
Speaker 4: more to do, Anderson, and I'm pointing out things that
35:23
Speaker 4: need to be done that haven't been done but need
35:26
Speaker 4: to be done.
35:28
Speaker 1: You couldn't write a better script for Saturday Night Live.
35:31
Speaker 4: There you go.
35:32
Speaker 3: I'm pointing out the things that need to be done,
35:34
Speaker 3: that haven't been done, that need to be done, and
35:36
Speaker 3: by the way, I'm the one that didn't do them,
35:37
Speaker 3: but I'm the one you can count to do them.
35:39
Speaker 3: But actually compare that and combine that with let's remember
35:44
Speaker 3: her biggest mistake. But when she's asked, look, people want
35:47
Speaker 3: to change the page. They want to turn the page.
35:48
Speaker 3: They recognize that the Biden Harris record is a disaster.
35:52
Speaker 3: So when she's asked how she's different from Joe Biden,
35:55
Speaker 3: take a listen to her answer.
35:57
Speaker 10: Considering you've been in the position of vice president for
36:00
Speaker 10: the past four years under the Biden administration, how can
36:03
Speaker 10: we expect you to deviate from the direction of that
36:06
Speaker 10: administration compared to your own.
36:08
Speaker 8: How can we differentiate.
36:09
Speaker 10: Your policy and your beliefs from that of Biden's.
36:13
Speaker 4: That's a great question, and thank you well. First of all,
36:17
Speaker 4: my administration will not be a continuation of the Biden administration.
36:20
Speaker 4: I bring to this role my own ideas and my
36:25
Speaker 4: own experience. I represent a new generation of leadership on
36:30
Speaker 4: a number of issues and believe that we have to
36:33
Speaker 4: actually take new approaches. For example, what we talked about
36:36
Speaker 4: in terms of housing. My experience that leads to that
36:42
Speaker 4: priority includes what I did to take on the big
36:45
Speaker 4: banks around the foreclosure crisis, when I brought billions of
36:48
Speaker 4: dollars to homeowners that were the subject of predatory lending.
36:52
Speaker 4: I know what home ownership means to the American people,
36:55
Speaker 4: not to mention what it meant to my mother, who
36:57
Speaker 4: worked very hard and saved up so that by the
36:59
Speaker 4: time I was a teenager, she was able to buy
37:02
Speaker 4: our first home. I bring to it my experience actually
37:06
Speaker 4: taking care of my mother when she was sick and
37:08
Speaker 4: it was, as it turned out, dying from cancer.
37:11
Speaker 8: And so I know what it means and have the experience.
37:14
Speaker 4: Of taking care of an elderly relative, and I have
37:18
Speaker 4: raised children, and so I bring to my priorities and
37:23
Speaker 4: will as president a new approach and a new idea frankly.
37:27
Speaker 8: About what we need to do to deal with the
37:29
Speaker 8: Sandwich generation.
37:31
Speaker 2: There it is. It's I'm not him. His policies are terrible.
37:36
Speaker 2: I'm different. But a month ago I told you we
37:39
Speaker 2: were amazing together and his policies were amazing.
37:42
Speaker 3: And the difference is I'm a new generation. I actually
37:44
Speaker 3: care about people, unlike that old geezer By the way
37:47
Speaker 3: I know what it's like to care for old geezers.
37:49
Speaker 3: Look at the one I care for in the White
37:50
Speaker 3: House right now that I lied to you about and
37:51
Speaker 3: said was brilliant engage when he actually isn't. I mean,
37:54
Speaker 3: I mean it truly is. It is a miracle of circularity.
38:01
Speaker 3: But but we actually should close on what we opened on.
38:06
Speaker 3: We talked about how she held a press conference to
38:09
Speaker 3: say that Trump is a fascist and Trump is hitler.
38:11
Speaker 3: She's not running away from that. That that that that's
38:13
Speaker 3: her big October surprise. So so give a listen when
38:17
Speaker 3: when when she's asked asked whether she thinks Trump is
38:19
Speaker 3: a fascist?
38:21
Speaker 5: Do you think Donald Trump is a fascist? Yes?
38:23
Speaker 4: I do, Yes, I do, and I and I also
38:28
Speaker 4: believe that the people who know him best on this
38:30
Speaker 4: subject should be trusted.
38:33
Speaker 1: Senator, I go back to the dog whistle.
38:37
Speaker 2: This is so concerning to me because all I hear is, Hey,
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Speaker 2: if there's someone out there that wants to finish the job,
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Speaker 2: these other two attempted assassins were trying to finish the
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Speaker 2: President's already been shot once, we've dehumanized him to the
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Speaker 2: point where we're right back to calling him a fascist
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Speaker 2: and earlier today in front of the official American flag
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Speaker 2: at the home of the Vice President.
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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, he's Hitler.
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Speaker 2: I cannot believe the level of hatred and irresponsibility from
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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris in this moment.
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Speaker 3: At the same time that they're sending out Barack Obama
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Speaker 3: to say, we need more civility and decency and this
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Speaker 3: bitterness is too much. And by the way, my opponent
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Speaker 3: is Hitler. They managed to say those without taking a
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Speaker 3: breath between those two statements.
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Speaker 1: This is the campaign, this is the closing arguments.
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Speaker 2: I do feel like this is desperation, as you mentioned earlier, Senator,
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Speaker 2: and they feel like this election may be slipping away
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Speaker 2: from them, and this is their way to say, Hey,
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Speaker 2: orange man's fascist, orange Man Hitler. Let's see if that's
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Speaker 2: our closing argument, if it works to the American people.
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Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, we want to kill babies
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Speaker 2: on demand. Let's have a big rally in Texas on that.
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