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Trump on Deportations, Can Daniel Penny take on the People that went after him & Border Wall up for Grabs Week In Review · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome.
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Speaker 2: It is Verdict with Ted Cruz and the weekend Review
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Speaker 2: Ben Ferguson with you and man. Was it a crazy
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Speaker 2: week when it comes to big breaking news and we
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Speaker 2: covered it all and here are some of the highlights
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Speaker 2: you may have missed. First up, Donald Trump, not afraid
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Speaker 2: of the media, sitting down on Meet the Press for
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Speaker 2: an exclusive one on one interview talking about mass deportations
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Speaker 2: and how he's going to do it.
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Speaker 1: The other question they.
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Speaker 2: Said was, well, it's impossible for you to deport all
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Speaker 2: legal immigrants. He says, my plan is to start with
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Speaker 2: the worst and we're going to go from there.
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Speaker 1: We'll have that for you.
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Speaker 2: Also, Daniel Penny was found innocent, thank goodness, by a
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Speaker 2: jury of his peers in New York City for being
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Speaker 2: a good samaritan. The question now is can he sue
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Speaker 2: New York for taking him to court for doing the
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Speaker 2: right thing? Was it an unjust prosecution of him. We'll
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Speaker 2: explain the legal aspect of that. And finally, the border wall,
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Speaker 2: many pieces of it that were taken down by the
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Speaker 2: Biden administration and others that were never put up. The
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Speaker 2: Biden administration now says we want to sell them for
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Speaker 2: five dollars apiece to stick it to the American voters.
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Speaker 2: Can we stop it? Well, we're to explain that for
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Speaker 2: you as well. It's the Weekend Review and it starts
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Speaker 2: right now. Let's talk about the border, and there was
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Speaker 2: certainly a pretty intense conversation about what Donald Trumps said
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Speaker 2: he wants to do. And I think the American people
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Speaker 2: actually know what his plan is. The media just doesn't
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Speaker 2: want to accept that he has a mandate to do it.
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Speaker 1: Here is part of that conversation.
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Speaker 3: Let's talk about mass deportation, one of your big agenda items.
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Speaker 3: You've talked about prioritizing people who have criminal histories, correct,
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Speaker 3: But is it your plan to deport everyone who is
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Speaker 3: here illegally over the next four years.
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Speaker 4: Well, I think you have to do it, and it's
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Speaker 4: a it's a very tough thing to do.
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Speaker 5: It's but you have to have.
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Speaker 4: You know, you have rules, regulations, law as they came
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Speaker 4: in illegally. You know, the people that have been treated
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Speaker 4: very unfairly are the people that have been online for
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Speaker 4: ten years to come into the country. And we're going
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Speaker 4: to make it very easy for people to come in
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Speaker 4: in terms off they have to pass the test, they
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Speaker 4: have to be able to tell you what the statue
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Speaker 4: of liberty is. They have to tell you a little
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Speaker 4: bit about our country. They have to love our country.
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Speaker 4: They can't come out of prisons. We don't want people
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Speaker 4: that are in for murder. So we had eleven thousand
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Speaker 4: and thirteen thousand, different estimates, thirteen thousand and ninety nine
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Speaker 4: murderers released into our country over the last three years.
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Speaker 4: They're walking down the streets, they're walking next to you
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Speaker 4: and your family, and they're very dangerous.
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Speaker 3: Thirteen thousand figure I think goes back about forty good.
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Speaker 5: No, it doesn't know it's within the three year period.
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Speaker 5: It's during the Biden term. Now, that was a fiction
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Speaker 5: that they put that out. This was done by the
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Speaker 5: Border Patrol.
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Speaker 4: It's thirteen thousand and ninety nine, and it's during the
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Speaker 4: Biden period of time. And these are murderers, many of
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Speaker 4: who murdered more than one person. You don't want those
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Speaker 4: people in this country.
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Speaker 3: But you're saying something, sir, that's significance. I just want
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Speaker 3: to make sure i'm clear, which is that you're saying, yes,
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Speaker 3: you're going to focus on the people with criminal histories,
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Speaker 3: but everyone who's here illegally has to go.
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Speaker 4: I'm saying, we have to get the criminals out of
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Speaker 4: our country. We have to get people that were taken
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Speaker 4: out of mental institutions and put them back into their
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Speaker 4: mental institution, no matter what country it is.
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Speaker 5: Do you know that Venezuela, their prisons.
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Speaker 4: Are at the lowest point in terms of emptiness that
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Speaker 4: they've ever been. They're taking their people out of those
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Speaker 4: prisons by the thousands, and they're drug and just to
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Speaker 4: get back because they know exactly what you're getting. At
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Speaker 4: number one, we're doing criminals, and we're going to do
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Speaker 4: them really rapidly. We're getting the worst gang probably with
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Speaker 4: MS thirteen and the Venezuelan gangs the worst in the world.
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Speaker 4: They're vicious, violent people, and you see what they've done
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Speaker 4: in Colorado and other places. They're taking over literally taking
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Speaker 4: over apartment complexes and doing it with impunity.
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Speaker 5: They don't care, they couldn't. They just aren't taking They're
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Speaker 5: in the real estate.
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Speaker 3: You know, the local police say that is not the
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Speaker 3: case in Colorado.
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Speaker 5: Oh, it's totally the case. I mean, you don't believe
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Speaker 5: the local I play it.
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Speaker 4: I used to play it at my rallies every single night. No,
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Speaker 4: it was breaking into doors, they're taking over the buildings.
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Speaker 4: And by the way, the police, the police are afraid
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Speaker 4: to do anything.
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Speaker 3: You raise the point that the logistics are complicated.
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Speaker 5: You say to yourself, what everything's going? Yeah, I mean you.
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Speaker 3: Need twenty four times more iced attention capacity just to
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Speaker 3: deport one million people per year, not to mention more agents,
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Speaker 3: more judges, more planes. Is it realistic to deport everyone
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Speaker 3: who's Jews?
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Speaker 5: First of all, they're costing us a fortune.
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Speaker 4: But we're starting with the criminals, and we got to
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Speaker 4: do it, and then we're starting with others, and we're
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Speaker 4: going to see how it goes.
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Speaker 5: The others.
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Speaker 4: Others are other people. Outside of criminals. We have convicted murders.
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Speaker 4: We don't mean people that are even on trial. We
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Speaker 4: have people that have murdered numerous people are on our
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Speaker 4: streets and in our farms, and we have to get
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Speaker 4: them out of our country.
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Speaker 2: You know, it's amazing to me, center is the fact
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Speaker 2: that Christian Walker there was just like, well, it's this
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Speaker 2: is impossible. You can't do this, So why even act
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Speaker 2: like you can deport around up a bunch of heinous criminals.
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Speaker 2: There's no way you can do this. So let's just
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Speaker 2: admit defeat and say we can't do it, and we
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Speaker 2: can't afford it. I mean, the Biden administration just sent
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Speaker 2: what another billion dollars and funding to Ukraine. Why don't
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Speaker 2: we spend some money here and actually get what we
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Speaker 2: need to get rid of these heinous criminals.
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Speaker 1: I think that's the point he's trying to make.
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Speaker 6: Well, and we're going to see that happen. We are
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Speaker 6: going to see on January twentieth, we're going to see
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Speaker 6: the new administration come in. We're going to see them
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Speaker 6: reverse catch and release immediately. We're going to see them
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Speaker 6: return to building the wall. We're going to see them
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Speaker 6: reinstate the Remain in Mexico agreement. What it is going
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Speaker 6: to mean is that on January twentieth, if you come
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Speaker 6: here illegally and you're apprehended, you will be deported, and
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Speaker 6: we will see the numbers plummets. They'll plummet immediately. The
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Speaker 6: first priority Trump is going to focus on as securing
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Speaker 6: the border itself, and very closely connected to that is
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Speaker 6: going after illegal immigrants, and in particular, he said repeatedly,
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Speaker 6: starting with the criminal aliens, starting with the convicted murderers,
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Speaker 6: the rapist, the child molesters, starting with the Venezuelan gangs,
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Speaker 6: starting with with with the most dangerous illegal immigrants. And
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Speaker 6: you know, Welker was saying, well, gosh, this is going
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Speaker 6: to be expensive. It's going to take a lot of resources.
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Speaker 6: I'm going to hold onto that clip that's going to
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Speaker 6: be valuable because you know what Congress is going to
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Speaker 6: We're going to take up and pass a reconciliation bill.
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Speaker 6: We're going to do it early in this next year
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Speaker 6: that is going to provide funding to enable us to
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Speaker 6: secure the border. We're going to get it done. And
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Speaker 6: I think Trump was very matter of fact laying out
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Speaker 6: this is a mandate from the American people. He intends
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Speaker 6: to do it, and I intend to work hand in
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Speaker 6: hand with him to make sure it gets done.
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Speaker 2: And finally, Senator Donald Trump went to France. It was
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Speaker 2: a very interesting trip. He was meeting with world leaders.
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Speaker 2: And one of the things that I thought was really
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Speaker 2: interesting about this trip was social media reacted to Trump's
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Speaker 2: just dominating force and the and the clear contrast between
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Speaker 2: how world leaders were interacting with him compared to Joe
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Speaker 2: Biden in this administration. There was an interesting handshake when
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Speaker 2: there was a meeting in France as well. I'm sure
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Speaker 2: you saw some of this on social media and on
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Speaker 2: the news. I want to get your reaction to even
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Speaker 2: Macrone and their handshake. It was like it was like
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Speaker 2: a fist, like hey, we're back, bros. Good to see you.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: Look, I mean Donald Trump sha shakes hands like a man,
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Speaker 6: and when it came to Macrone, he shook hands in
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Speaker 6: a way that was a dominating way to shake hands.
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Speaker 6: Macrone was nervous, he was uneasy, He wasn't sure what
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Speaker 6: to do.
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Speaker 7: Now.
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Speaker 6: Macrone's own political situation in France is incredibly tenuous, and
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Speaker 6: listen the contrast, Macrone has been kissing up to Biden
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Speaker 6: like crazy. Biden when he interacts with Macrone and every
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Speaker 6: other world leader interacts from a position of weakness. None
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Speaker 6: of them are afraid of him, none of them, none
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Speaker 6: of them are worried about what he might do. You know,
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Speaker 6: you look at that at our southern border. I'm reminded
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Speaker 6: we did a podcast I don't know about a year
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Speaker 6: year and a half ago where we played Amlo then
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Speaker 6: the president of Mexico, uh, standing next to Joe Biden
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Speaker 6: and just crowing how he's the only president in our lifetimes,
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Speaker 6: who has not built even one meter of wall or
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Speaker 6: fence neon metro and and he's saying and Biden just
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Speaker 6: grinning like a goofy fool while Amlo is saying, well,
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Speaker 6: look this guy, we can just run all over. Well,
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Speaker 6: we have seen that that that Trump is not someone
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Speaker 6: that that foreign leaders are going to run all over.
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Speaker 6: And so so that is that that that is a
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Speaker 6: powerful demonstration of the simple fact that America is back.
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Speaker 2: Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation,
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Speaker 2: you can go back and listen to the full podcast
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Speaker 2: from earlier this week.
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Speaker 1: Now onto story number two.
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Speaker 2: This is one of those stories where I hope that
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Speaker 2: people will stand up and say this is a hero
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Speaker 2: and be proud to say he is a hero, because
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Speaker 2: that's exactly what he is. And we should celebrate heroes
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Speaker 2: and we should not have to worry that when men
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Speaker 2: need to stand up an act to protect and defend people,
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Speaker 2: that they're going to do it and not have to
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Speaker 2: worry about thinking twice because of what just happened to
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Speaker 2: this individual. It's also a really sad commentary about New
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Speaker 2: York and New York City and the activist prosecutors there
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Speaker 2: and Finally, I want to get your thought on that.
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Speaker 2: With the prosecutors that went after him, should there be
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Speaker 2: any scenario where he can, in essence, say hey, you
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Speaker 2: guys didn't treat me the right way.
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Speaker 6: Look. Look, I could easily see a lawsuit following from this.
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Speaker 6: I hope Alvin Bragg is thrown out of office. I
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Speaker 6: hope he is removed from office. The governor has the
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Speaker 6: authority to do that. Of course, the governor, Kathy Hockel
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Speaker 6: is a leftist herself, a cultural Marxist herself. She's someone who,
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Speaker 6: by the way, said, if you're a Republican, get the
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Speaker 6: hell out of my state. Moved to Florida, you don't
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Speaker 6: belong in New York. That is their idea. If you
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Speaker 6: are the enemy, they are opposed to you. I gotta say,
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Speaker 6: I want you to listen to Daniel Penny and him
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Speaker 6: talking about how he was trying to protect other people's lives.
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Speaker 6: He was acting as a good Samaritan, acting as a hero, intervening,
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Speaker 6: risking his own life. Look, encountering a mentally ill, potentially
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Speaker 6: violent person threatening violence is a dangerous thing to do.
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Speaker 6: Here's what Daniel Penny had to say.
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Speaker 8: The guilt I would have felt if someone did get hurt,
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Speaker 8: if he did do what he was threatening to do,
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Speaker 8: would never be able to live with myself.
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Speaker 5: And I'll take a.
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Speaker 8: Million court appearances and people calling me names and people
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Speaker 8: hating me just to keep one of those people from
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Speaker 8: getting hurt or killed.
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Speaker 6: Look that that is yes. Look and of course how
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Speaker 6: is the left reacting. I want you to listen to
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Speaker 6: MSNBC just just expressing misery that that that that Daniel
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Speaker 6: Penny was was acquitted. And and understand, by the way,
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Speaker 6: initially so there were two charges, uh that were brought.
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Speaker 9: Uh.
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Speaker 6: So Alvin Bragg brought two charges. One charge was for
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Speaker 6: manslaughter and the second charge was for uh criminally uh
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Speaker 6: criminally criminally negligent homicide. The jury deadlocked on on the
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Speaker 6: on the second degree manslaughter claim, which was the more
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Speaker 6: serious charge. So so that means they had a disagreement,
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Speaker 6: they could not come to agreement. And so what did
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Speaker 6: Alvin Bragg do. Well, Alvin Bragg moved to dismiss the
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Speaker 6: more serious charge and he was trying to get a
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Speaker 6: conviction on the less serious charge. And and I got
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Speaker 6: to say, to the jury's credit, they came back very
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Speaker 6: quickly with a not guilty, So the jury is determined
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Speaker 6: he is he is innocent. But listen to m S
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Speaker 6: NBC and and just how upset they are uh that
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Speaker 6: that this innocent man was found found not guilty.
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Speaker 10: Banking News here Daniel Penny found not guilty. But Lisa,
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Speaker 10: we also know that Jordan Neely's family had filed I
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Speaker 10: believe a civil suit in this case as well. Does
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Speaker 10: the verdict in this case impact.
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Speaker 11: That not necessarily? I mean, the law is rife with
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Speaker 11: examples of people who are quitted in criminal cases and
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Speaker 11: yet find justice with respect to civil accountability. I think
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Speaker 11: the best example of that is with respect to Fred
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Speaker 11: Goldman's family. Fred Goldman, I'm sorry, Ron Goldman being the
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Speaker 11: man who was murdered alongside Nicole Brown Simpson.
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Speaker 5: Even though O. J.
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Speaker 11: Simpson was never found criminally guilty for those two murders,
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Speaker 11: Fred Goldman, the father, along with his daughter, then sued O. J.
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Speaker 5: Simpson Civilly and.
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Speaker 11: One a fairly large verdict with respect to civil liability
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Speaker 11: for OJ Simpson. There are many other examples of similar
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Speaker 11: dysjuncture between what happens in a criminal court and what
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Speaker 11: happens when respect.
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Speaker 5: To a wrongful death action. For example, by a family.
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Speaker 1: It's sad center.
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Speaker 2: But there seems to be another trend, and that is,
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Speaker 2: if you are an innocent person and then you are
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Speaker 2: found innocent of a crime, if the media doesn't like you,
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Speaker 2: they're still gonna act like you're a threat to society.
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Speaker 6: Well you look at that's a reporter Lisa Rubin on
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Speaker 6: MSNBC who is calling for the mentally ill homeless man
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Speaker 6: who was high on drugs and threatening to murder people
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Speaker 6: on the train, calling for him to find justice against
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Speaker 6: the marine who intervened to protect people and keep people safe.
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Speaker 6: And she analogizes it to the OJ Simpson case, which
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Speaker 6: is utterly absurd because look, O J. Simpson was charged
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Speaker 6: with and the facts were pretty powerful, was guilty of murder. Now,
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Speaker 6: to be fair, OJ Simpson was not found guilty of murder,
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Speaker 6: but there was significant evidence that OJ was guilty. There
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Speaker 6: was significant enough evidence that he ended up being hit
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Speaker 6: with a large civil judgment. This this is not remotely
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Speaker 6: there's no argument, no rational, reasonable argument under the law
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Speaker 6: that Daniel Penny is guilty of murder. Self defense is
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Speaker 6: fully protected. And by the way, if perchance you don't
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Speaker 6: believe me, you should listen to my former criminal law professor,
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Speaker 6: Alan Dershowitz. Now, Alan Dershowitz is a liberal, He's been
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Speaker 6: a liberal his whole life. But he has the courage
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Speaker 6: to speak out and speak the truth. And listen to
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Speaker 6: what Alan Dershowitz said about this case and about the
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Speaker 6: absolutely corrupt prosecutor Alvin Bragg.
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Speaker 10: I'm going to start off with just the immediate reaction
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Speaker 10: to the not guilty verdict in the Daniel Penny case.
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Speaker 7: I have to admit I was a little surprised. Having
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Speaker 7: hung on the higher count, I was not expecting that
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Speaker 7: they would so quickly acquit on the lower account. It
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Speaker 7: probably shows that there were only one or two people
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Speaker 7: in the original high count that hung based on their
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Speaker 7: desire to see conviction. So I think it's a good thing.
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Speaker 5: Now.
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Speaker 7: I think the next step has to be the removal
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Speaker 7: of Alvin Bragg from the role of district Attorney. He
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Speaker 7: is a disgrace to the office. The two cases he
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Speaker 7: brought should never have been brought. The case against Donald Trump,
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Speaker 7: which was made up out of old cloth, which to
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Speaker 7: my mind involves unethical unprofessional conduct by Bragg, and also
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Speaker 7: this case, which should never have been brought either. He
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Speaker 7: brought it only because of the racial component to the
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Speaker 7: case and because of pressures from Black Lives Matter and
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Speaker 7: other groups on the outside, both white and black radicals
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Speaker 7: who wanted these cases to be brought, wanted this case
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Speaker 7: to be brought, and who are going to continue to
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Speaker 7: complain even though there are obviously black members of the
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Speaker 7: jury who voted to a quite as well.
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Speaker 12: Professor, what do you make of how quickly they came
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Speaker 12: back with this verdict and also to there's the civil
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Speaker 12: case that he's also facing too, Daniel Penny does that
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Speaker 12: given that he's not guilty on the criminal case, what
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Speaker 12: happens to the civil case as well?
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Speaker 7: It'll be thrown out. There's no case there civilly. The
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Speaker 7: only thing that will happen is that Penny will get
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Speaker 7: an enormous amount of discovery and we'll get much more
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Speaker 7: information that we don't now have about the alleged victim
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Speaker 7: in the case. So my prediction is it will be withdrawn.
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Speaker 7: I don't think they'll go any further. I don't think
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Speaker 7: they'll get any kind of a verdict.
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Speaker 5: Now.
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Speaker 7: You know, maybe the city will settle if they sue
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Speaker 7: the city as well. If I were, if I were
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Speaker 7: the lawyers for the alleged victim. I probably think.
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Speaker 9: I'd have a better shot at getting some money from
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Speaker 9: the city, which was sympathetic obviously to the victim, than
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Speaker 9: from a poor former marine who probably doesn't have a
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Speaker 9: lot of money.
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Speaker 7: So I don't think the simple case is going anywhere.
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Speaker 5: This is not O J.
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Speaker 7: Simpson, where the civil case won after the criminel case lost.
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Speaker 7: There was no case here to bring it all, either
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Speaker 7: civil or criminal.
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Speaker 2: Alan Dershowitz there seems to be optimistic, and I'm glad
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Speaker 2: he's saying, Hey, I don't think he's going to have
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Speaker 2: to deal with what, for example, O. J. Simpson had
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Speaker 2: to deal with. This is very different. I hope he's right.
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Speaker 6: Well, listen, Alan Dershowitz. He's a good friend. As I said,
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Speaker 6: he was my criminal law professor, and I actually took
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Speaker 6: another class from him in law school as well. He
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Speaker 6: was a fantastic professor. He's the best professor I had
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Speaker 6: in law school. And he's a brilliant lawyer. He's an
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Speaker 6: incredibly talented lawyer. And I remember my first year in
17:31
Speaker 6: law school when dersh was stood up and he said listen.
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Speaker 6: He said, by any reasonable measure, I am in the
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Speaker 6: most liberal one percent of Americans across this country. And
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Speaker 6: he said at Harvard Law School, oddly enough, I'm considered
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Speaker 6: something of a conservative. This is not America. I don't
17:52
Speaker 6: remember if he said this is not America, but this
17:54
Speaker 6: is not a typical place. I mean, this was thirty
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Speaker 6: years ago, so I'm paraphrasing, but his point was so.
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Speaker 6: Dershowitz believes in free speech. That is no longer where
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Speaker 6: the left is. The left is eager to censor someone
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Speaker 6: who disagrees. Dershowitz does not celebrate the murder of those
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Speaker 6: he disagrees with. Dershwitz is not a cultural Marxist. He's
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Speaker 6: an old school liberal. He's a civil libertarian. He is
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Speaker 6: you know, has represented criminal defendants successfully. He's got a
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Speaker 6: lot of criminal defense off he believes in a vigorous
18:27
Speaker 6: protection of constitutional rights for criminal defendants. And look, I
18:32
Speaker 6: respect his courage. He's been demonized. He also supports Israel
18:36
Speaker 6: and speaks out very powerfully and effective for Israel. He's
18:40
Speaker 6: been demonized by the Left for doing so because they
18:42
Speaker 6: brook no dissent. Anyone who dares oppose them is the enemy.
18:47
Speaker 6: And so even though he's been one of the most
18:49
Speaker 6: prominent liberals in the country for decades.
18:54
Speaker 7: He is.
18:57
Speaker 6: Rejected by today's left because he actually has the courage
19:03
Speaker 6: to speak out against them. I hope he's right about
19:05
Speaker 6: the civil case. In any sane and ordinary universe, that
19:09
Speaker 6: would be true. I have to say I have a
19:11
Speaker 6: little bit less confidence about a New York jury and
19:14
Speaker 6: a New York judge. And maybe that's because we all
19:17
Speaker 6: saw the the absolute kangaroo courts that that were convened
19:21
Speaker 6: against Donald Trump, and and and having seen the civil
19:25
Speaker 6: suits and and the the the the criminal case against
19:28
Speaker 6: Donald Trump and the New York justice system. Uh, he
19:31
Speaker 6: is right on what should happen. Look, I am very
19:35
Speaker 6: grateful that that that Daniel Penny was acquitted, But it
19:39
Speaker 6: says something about how little confidence I have about the
19:42
Speaker 6: justice system in New York that I was not sure
19:45
Speaker 6: this was happened would happen. I I thought there was
19:47
Speaker 6: a chance, Uh, they they would come back and and
19:51
Speaker 6: follow through on what Alvin Bragg wanted them to do,
19:54
Speaker 6: which is punish him because he was deemed the bad guy.
19:58
Speaker 6: And and and thankfully the the justice system worked in
20:02
Speaker 6: this case. And you want to ask yourself, have you
20:05
Speaker 6: seen even a single Democrat celebrate the Daniel Penny verdict.
20:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great question.
20:13
Speaker 6: And if not, why not?
20:16
Speaker 2: As before, If you want to hear the rest of
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Speaker 2: this conversation on this topic, you can go back and
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Speaker 2: down the podcast from earlier this week to hear the
20:24
Speaker 2: entire thing. I want to get back to the big story,
20:28
Speaker 2: number three of the week.
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Speaker 1: You may have missed. All right, so let's go to
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Speaker 1: the border.
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Speaker 2: And this might be one of the biggest just asinine
20:36
Speaker 2: middle fingers from this administration. I don't know how you
20:39
Speaker 2: want to categorize this one, but when I saw this report,
20:42
Speaker 2: it actually made me angry. And that is that the
20:45
Speaker 2: Biden administration is saying, Hey, we don't respect the voters.
20:49
Speaker 2: We do not respect that the American people decided we
20:52
Speaker 2: want security at our southern border. And what are they
20:56
Speaker 2: doing to stick it to you. They're saying, all right,
20:58
Speaker 2: watch this, We're going to sell pieces of the border
21:01
Speaker 2: wall that have not been erected yet, just to say
21:04
Speaker 2: screw you to the American people.
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Speaker 6: I wish what you were saying was hyperbole. I wish
21:09
Speaker 6: it was an exaggeration, but it's not. The Daily Wire
21:12
Speaker 6: broke this story, and it's an exclusive story that is
21:15
Speaker 6: just it's stunning, it's infuriating. Here's the headline, exclusive, Biden
21:20
Speaker 6: races to sell off border wall parts before Trump takes office.
21:25
Speaker 6: The goal is to move all of it off the
21:28
Speaker 6: border before Christmas. An Arizona Border Patrol agent tells the
21:32
Speaker 6: Daily Wire. Let me read from this story. The Biden
21:34
Speaker 6: administration is using its final weeks to haul a massive
21:37
Speaker 6: amount of border wall materials away from the southern border
21:41
Speaker 6: to be sold off in a government auction, on apparent
21:44
Speaker 6: effort to hinder President elect Trump's efforts to secure the border.
21:48
Speaker 6: The Daily Wire has learned. Videos obtained exclusively by The
21:52
Speaker 6: Daily Wire from a US Customs and Border Patrol agent
21:55
Speaker 6: show unused sections of the wall being hauled away on
21:59
Speaker 6: the back of flatbed trucks from a section of the
22:02
Speaker 6: border just south of Tucson, a hotspot for illegal crossings
22:06
Speaker 6: during the Biden administration. The agent estimates that up to
22:10
Speaker 6: a half mile per day of unused border wall is
22:15
Speaker 6: being moved. This is not a small amount, this is
22:17
Speaker 6: a massive amount. Continuing the quote quote, they are taking
22:21
Speaker 6: it from three stations, Nogallis, Tucson, and three points. The
22:25
Speaker 6: Border Patrol agent, who was granted anonymities speak freely told
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Speaker 6: the Daily Wire the goal is to move it all
22:31
Speaker 6: off the border before Christmas. And here's something. If that
22:35
Speaker 6: doesn't make you furious, listen, listen to this. The auction
22:42
Speaker 6: website shows that sales occurred as recently as December fourth
22:47
Speaker 6: for precisely the types of materials being pulled off the border.
22:52
Speaker 6: Gov Planet has online auction set for December eleventh and
22:56
Speaker 6: December eighteenth for more border wall material, which is listed
22:59
Speaker 6: on the company's website as quote thirty two point nine
23:03
Speaker 6: to one feet by seven point nine to one feet
23:06
Speaker 6: steel ballered wall sections with grout. The bidding for each
23:12
Speaker 6: section of wall panels is set to begin at five
23:17
Speaker 6: dollars according to the website, and this article has multiple
23:23
Speaker 6: screenshots showing these being sold for five bucks apiece. I
23:28
Speaker 6: got to say, we talked in the first segment about
23:33
Speaker 6: the arrogance and unaccountability of the Biden Justice Department, of
23:37
Speaker 6: the Biden FBI. This is, at the end of the day,
23:39
Speaker 6: that identical arrogance, and it's an arrogance of Joe Biden,
23:43
Speaker 6: of Kamala Harris, of Aallejandro Majorcis of Merrick Garland, and
23:47
Speaker 6: let's be clear of Chuck Schumer and the Senate Democrats
23:50
Speaker 6: and Congressional Democrats. Every person in America knows that the
23:54
Speaker 6: voters of America voted to secure the border. They want
23:57
Speaker 6: that to happen. And you know what the Democrats are
24:00
Speaker 6: saying on the way out, screw you. We don't care,
24:03
Speaker 6: we don't care about the voters. And what we're gonna do.
24:06
Speaker 6: If Trump's going to build the border wall, We're going
24:08
Speaker 6: to make it that much more expensive because we are
24:11
Speaker 6: so bitterly ideological that we will openly defy the will
24:17
Speaker 6: of the voters.
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Speaker 1: And let's just be honest about the logic.
24:21
Speaker 2: If you're just talking about that, the logical math that
24:26
Speaker 2: you do here, there's no doubt that the Biden administration
24:30
Speaker 2: knows that this wall will be used. And if they
24:32
Speaker 2: do sell it all off before Christmas at five dollars
24:35
Speaker 2: a panel, that this is going to have to be
24:38
Speaker 2: repurchased at a much higher price because they just sold
24:42
Speaker 2: what we had purchased before that has not been used,
24:45
Speaker 2: and it will be used and it will be done.
24:47
Speaker 2: So this is just trying to make the American taxpayer
24:53
Speaker 2: suffer a little bit and to say we can't stand
24:56
Speaker 2: you and what you guys just voted for. This is
24:59
Speaker 2: a retribution for you voting them out of office and
25:03
Speaker 2: their way of sticking it to the American voter and taxpayer.
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Speaker 6: Well that's right now. I will say there's an aspect
25:09
Speaker 6: of this story that broke tonight. You and I are
25:11
Speaker 6: recording this very late at night. It's twelve fifty seven
25:15
Speaker 6: in the morning, Thursday night, and just this evening, the
25:19
Speaker 6: Lieutenant Governor of Texas, Dan Patrick, a good friend of mine,
25:23
Speaker 6: went on Laura Ingram's show, and he said the state
25:26
Speaker 6: of Texas is preparing to buy up the border wall
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Speaker 6: segments from the Biden administration that they're selling for five
25:32
Speaker 6: bucks apiece and then donate them back to the Trump administration.
25:37
Speaker 6: And Dan Patrick says he has up to a billion
25:39
Speaker 6: dollars of state funds to work with. I want you
25:42
Speaker 6: to listen to Dan Patrick this evening on Laura Ingram
25:45
Speaker 6: laying this out.
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Speaker 13: We mean business in Texas, and Tom Holmans means business
25:51
Speaker 13: and President Trump means business. And I don't know if
25:53
Speaker 13: you heard the latest today, Laura, but Joe Biden is
25:56
Speaker 13: now hauling off the border wall that's been lying down
25:59
Speaker 13: for years. And he walked wants to auction it off,
26:02
Speaker 13: starting at five dollars apiece.
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Speaker 5: Message your White House right now.
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Speaker 13: I will bid on all of that wall, and we
26:09
Speaker 13: will buy it in Texas and we will give it
26:11
Speaker 13: to Donald Trump. So I'm going to find out first
26:14
Speaker 13: thing in the morning.
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Speaker 5: Where are we going to take the bid.
26:17
Speaker 13: I've got a billion dollars in my pocket to do it.
26:19
Speaker 13: I write the budget with Senator Joan Hoffman.
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Speaker 5: We have the money.
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Speaker 13: We're going to have about six billion in our budget
26:25
Speaker 13: for border.
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Speaker 1: Shippery to buy the costs.
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Speaker 3: Don't drive up the costs and tell me five bucks
26:30
Speaker 3: of five bucks, I notice to the wall, and then.
26:33
Speaker 5: I will go in and buy it all.
26:35
Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell you what.
26:37
Speaker 5: What does this tell you about the Biden people? There
26:39
Speaker 5: is there? Know, they're essentially green lights. There's more people
26:42
Speaker 5: coming in.
26:43
Speaker 13: Yeah, they're despicable what they're doing to the American people,
26:46
Speaker 13: and the American people obviously aren't tolerated. That's why they
26:49
Speaker 13: were thrown out. But the idea, we've been trying to
26:52
Speaker 13: buy this wall.
26:53
Speaker 5: For them from them for four years and they wouldn't
26:56
Speaker 5: sell it to us.
26:56
Speaker 13: And you know what, I'm going to check in with
26:58
Speaker 13: our Department of Public Safety. Maybe we need to start
27:00
Speaker 13: pulling over these trucks to be sure they don't have
27:02
Speaker 13: too much weight on those trucks. Maybe these trucks need
27:04
Speaker 13: to be slowed down. We need to do everything we
27:07
Speaker 13: can in Texas to stop them. The taxpayers paid for this,
27:11
Speaker 13: and they want to stop President Trump in thirty eight
27:15
Speaker 13: or thirty nine days from rebuilding the wall. I want
27:18
Speaker 13: to this is the legacy of Joe Biden. He lets
27:21
Speaker 13: off his son, He's letting off all these criminals. He's
27:24
Speaker 13: doing everything he can with these blue state governors and
27:27
Speaker 13: mayors to destroy this country. They are traders to this country,
27:31
Speaker 13: leaving terrorists, leaving murders, leaving rapist in this country. And
27:35
Speaker 13: now he wants to sabotage this president before he takes off.
27:39
Speaker 13: It is disgraceful and discussing he will go down as
27:42
Speaker 13: the worst, most despicable president in the history of this
27:45
Speaker 13: country because no one has done more to damage this
27:48
Speaker 13: country and hurt American citizens.
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Speaker 5: I would agree with you on that.
27:52
Speaker 2: I think the point he's making here is absolutely right.
27:54
Speaker 2: But we're even if it's five dollars, you're double paying
27:57
Speaker 2: for something that we've already paid for and it's just
28:00
Speaker 2: solely out of spite.
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Speaker 6: Well, and let me say number one, thank god for Texas.
28:06
Speaker 6: Thank god for Texas stepping up under that leading Dan.
28:10
Speaker 6: I'm glad you're doing that. But I've got to say also, listen,
28:14
Speaker 6: I'm gonna call on the incoming administration to investigate whoever
28:21
Speaker 6: made the decision to do this. And let me be clear.
28:25
Speaker 6: Let's say you're a government official, ben and you're pissed
28:29
Speaker 6: off at the people who are coming in after you.
28:32
Speaker 6: They're mad at You're mad at the voters because they
28:33
Speaker 6: elected someone different. And let's say, for example, that you're
28:38
Speaker 6: running you're running a police department. Your dad's a cop.
28:41
Speaker 6: You're running a police department, and you've got a bunch
28:44
Speaker 6: of police cars that let's say we're forty grand apiece,
28:48
Speaker 6: and you're mad because there's a new sheriff that's been elected,
28:51
Speaker 6: and so you decide to take the forty thousand dollars
28:53
Speaker 6: police cars. Let's say you got ten of them, and
28:56
Speaker 6: you go out and say, I'm going to auction the
28:57
Speaker 6: forty thousand dollars police cars off for five apiece because
29:02
Speaker 6: you want your successor not to have any police cars.
29:05
Speaker 6: And so you sell forty thousand dollars police cars for
29:07
Speaker 6: five bucks apiece. I'm going to tell you right now
29:10
Speaker 6: that is theft from the taxpayers. The idea. I guarantee
29:14
Speaker 6: you those segments of the wall. They don't cost five dollars,
29:17
Speaker 6: they don't cost fifty dollars, they don't cost five hundred dollars,
29:19
Speaker 6: they don't cost five thousand dollars. And I got to
29:23
Speaker 6: say it is grotesque, and I am calling right now
29:29
Speaker 6: for the incoming administration to investigate every person that made
29:33
Speaker 6: the decision to steal from the American taxpayers because they
29:38
Speaker 6: are such bitter partisans that they want to deprive the
29:43
Speaker 6: federal government of assets that the taxpayers paid for. You
29:47
Speaker 6: don't have the right to do that. It doesn't matter.
29:49
Speaker 6: Nobody has the right to steal from the federal government.
29:52
Speaker 6: If you're selling segments of this wall for five bucks apiece,
29:56
Speaker 6: that in my view, is absolute theft.
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