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Interview of the Week: Renowned Civil Rights Attorney Ben Crump, on the continuous racial injustice in our country today · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: in the community. That is my next guest, his attorney
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  Speaker 1: being Crump. He's a naturally recognized trial lawyer. I was
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  Speaker 1: still manager Steve Harvey and I saw more TV representative
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  Speaker 1: Trayvarn Martin. Then we make back stage at the Neighborhood
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  Speaker 1: Awards and we have become great friends. He had a
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  Speaker 1: dream to impact the lives of African Americans in the
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  Speaker 1: justice system. Ben's fight for justice has covered many cases
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  Speaker 1: and his dedication they have families received justice include Ahmad
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  Speaker 1: Aubrey Martin, Lee Anderson beyand the tailor Jacob Blake, George Florida,
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  Speaker 1: and unfortunately many others. All these families have turned to
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  Speaker 1: Mr Crump to turn the spotlight of their injustice on
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  Speaker 1: their cases. Please working the money making conversations, Attorney Ben Crump,
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  Speaker 1: how you doing mentor thank you sir. I appreciate that
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  Speaker 1: tiley you've given me because it was at his Neighborhood
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  Speaker 1: Awards when we started talking about trying to have your
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  Speaker 1: voice elevated beyond the courtroom. And you inspire me in
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  Speaker 1: ways and never ever discourage me. And because of that
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  Speaker 1: you know, God has blessed me beyond anything we could
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  Speaker 1: have ever envisioned. We don't to think about it. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we've done television shows together and and those shows are
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  Speaker 1: all about injustice, you know. And one of the famous
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  Speaker 1: quotes you always told me, if you want to see
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  Speaker 1: the justice ships and play out, just sit in the
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  Speaker 1: back of any courtroom in America. Tell us about that quote. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, when we did Evidence of Innocence, which I
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  Speaker 1: still think is one of the best shows that has
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  Speaker 1: ever been put on TV. That you produced and help
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  Speaker 1: create this concept of seeing injustice everywhere in America. It's
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  Speaker 1: not far into any city or state. You go in
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  Speaker 1: any courtroom. You don't have to take being from word
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  Speaker 1: for it. Just sit in the back of the courtroom
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  Speaker 1: and see how just this as being administered. That there
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  Speaker 1: are two justice systems that governed America, one for white
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  Speaker 1: America and one for others. And we saw that play
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  Speaker 1: out in America when they stormed the capital, these Trump supporters,
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  Speaker 1: and they were treated completely different Rashaan, than any Black
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  Speaker 1: Lives Matter protests ever. I mean they were able to
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  Speaker 1: bust into the capital. I mean you talk about no trust,
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  Speaker 1: pass charges, no property damage, no assault, no battery, nothing,
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  Speaker 1: nobody that they was arrested. And that's just prima facial evidence.
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  Speaker 1: But the thing that I got from you, Rashan, and
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  Speaker 1: people like my grandmother is no matter how donting it looks,
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  Speaker 1: you always got to keep a positive perspective. That's why
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  Speaker 1: I love doing evidence of innocence with it because, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you recognized the injustice, but you know that we will
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  Speaker 1: overcome the injustice. And that's important that you say that
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  Speaker 1: because use your your life. You know you've been putting
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  Speaker 1: the spotlight, movie appearances, TV appearances, you have an award
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  Speaker 1: show that's in Los Angeles. We want to talk about
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  Speaker 1: that in a little bit, but the bottom line is
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  Speaker 1: fighting injustice. What bothers you the most about the cases
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  Speaker 1: that seems so eerily similar, similar, different stage, different cities,
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  Speaker 1: but it's the same case. Well, bothers me the most
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  Speaker 1: Rashon is how they tried to intellectually justify it, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the unjustified by actions that led to Brianna Taylor being
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  Speaker 1: killed in her own apartment. I mean, the saint tell
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  Speaker 1: your home, they bust in the front door, and they
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  Speaker 1: mutilate your daughter's body, and then they tell her mother
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  Speaker 1: and her family. Well, technically there are no grounds to
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  Speaker 1: charge the police officers. Or when you think about Philandoca
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  Speaker 1: still in Minneapolis, sitting in the driver see his girlfriend
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  Speaker 1: driving and their baby in the back, and he tells
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  Speaker 1: the police, I'm a register gun owner, aber gun in
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  Speaker 1: the glove compartment. You want me to get the registration
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  Speaker 1: and insurance, I have to reach in the glove compartment.
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  Speaker 1: He says all of this, But then when he goes
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  Speaker 1: and gets the the items that the police asked for,
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  Speaker 1: he sees a gun, he sees black man, and he shoots.
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  Speaker 1: And yet they intellectually justify that rigion. And that's what
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  Speaker 1: is most troubling to me, because I often think about
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  Speaker 1: what Martin Luther King said in the letter from the
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  Speaker 1: Birmingham Jail. He said, just because they say it's legal,
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  Speaker 1: that doesn't mean it's right. He said that everything Hitler
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  Speaker 1: did to the Jews in Germany was legal, but that
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  Speaker 1: didn't make it right. He says avery was legal, but
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  Speaker 1: that didn't make it right. He says segregation was legal,
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  Speaker 1: but that didn't make it right. And they try to
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  Speaker 1: tell us what they did. The trade bond marketing and
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  Speaker 1: Brianna Taylor and Eric Gardner and so many others was legal.
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  Speaker 1: But I stand on my bullet poor pit every chance
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  Speaker 1: I get to remind America, no matter what you say
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  Speaker 1: is legal, that doesn't make it right. Well, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking to civil rights attorney Benjamin Crump, well renowned fame,
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  Speaker 1: But fame has a cutting edge because you're going the airports,
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  Speaker 1: people recognize you. Uh you going restaurants, people recognize you,
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  Speaker 1: and then you take on the responsibility of that. Sometimes
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  Speaker 1: you can't deliver what people's expectations are. I knew when
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  Speaker 1: we met backstages in the the neighborhood many years ago. Now
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  Speaker 1: looking at you now, your social media's on fire, your
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  Speaker 1: television and will front page of various newspaper articles. How
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  Speaker 1: has that affected your life, both professionally and personally? You know,
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  Speaker 1: Thank god I have a wonderful wife and uh strong
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  Speaker 1: family support that allowed me to do the important work
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  Speaker 1: I do. Um. In fact, it's so funny with shine
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  Speaker 1: that Netflix is doing a documentary of my life or
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  Speaker 1: the work I do. I shouldn't say my life. I
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  Speaker 1: want to believe I got a lot more living to go.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you U. But Nadia Hagren, who is the award
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  Speaker 1: winning director who directed Michelle Obama is becoming the most
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  Speaker 1: watched documentary and Netflix history is uh now doing a
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  Speaker 1: documentary on my work. And the one thing I tell
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  Speaker 1: a Rashine is keep up. You all are gonna follow
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  Speaker 1: me for a year. I mean keep up, because so
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  Speaker 1: much halp is in the course of a week that
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  Speaker 1: that's my always worst nightmare, that I'm running out of time.
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  Speaker 1: That they are creating these hashtags too much, they're killing
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  Speaker 1: our children too fast that we can barely keep up.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, every other week seems like there's another hashtag,
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  Speaker 1: and so that's what we're fighting. I told my eight
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  Speaker 1: year old daughter, Brooklyn as I left home the day
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  Speaker 1: after Christmas going to Columbia Columbus, Ohio, because Andre Hill
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  Speaker 1: was killed a couple of days before Christmas holding a
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  Speaker 1: cell phone, and the video demonstrated very clearly that he
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  Speaker 1: was unarmed, and while he was on the ground grasping
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  Speaker 1: for breath, they then had a supervisor come up at
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  Speaker 1: the five minutes and said he is still breathing, handcuffing,
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  Speaker 1: and they did that, and so my daughter was trying
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  Speaker 1: to understand, but Daddy, why do you have to leave
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  Speaker 1: the day after Christmas? And I told her, well, baby, Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 1: police brutality and implicit bias don't take a break, not
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  Speaker 1: even for Christmas. And so that family lost their father.
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  Speaker 1: And even though it's inconvenient for me to leave you
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  Speaker 1: on Christmas holiday, can you imagine how convenient baby, it
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  Speaker 1: is for that family who lost their father. Father? And
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  Speaker 1: my baby told me, Daddy, I understand. Wow, that's great
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  Speaker 1: now it was these all these cases are rageous. But
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  Speaker 1: you U was involved in the case in the Houston
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  Speaker 1: Galveson area where UH police officer sheriff was on the
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  Speaker 1: horse and he had a rope around a black man's
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  Speaker 1: neck as he walked him down the street. Tell us
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  Speaker 1: the status of that case, and tell and explain to
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  Speaker 1: everybody exactly detailed what went down with the case. It
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  Speaker 1: was a homeless man who had mental health issues, and
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  Speaker 1: the police, for reasons that were still inexplicable, instead of
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  Speaker 1: putting him in the patrol car and taking him to
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  Speaker 1: the jail for lottering, they put a rope around his
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  Speaker 1: neck while he and his partner were on horseback and
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  Speaker 1: they wrote him down through the middle of town where
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  Speaker 1: in Galveston, Texas, as we remember, Rashand was one of
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  Speaker 1: the last places where the slaves were freed, and so
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  Speaker 1: they literally walked this black man at two thousand nineteen.
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  Speaker 1: Ye when you look at that, I was outside of Houston.
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  Speaker 1: There's a booming metropolis. This is not a little little
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  Speaker 1: little cow town, a little of all town hidden way
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  Speaker 1: down in the south. Galvison has an annual Marto Grawl festival.
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  Speaker 1: You know, my my friend brother, he's from Galaster. Galvason ball,
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  Speaker 1: big football powerhouse down there. So you're not talking about
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  Speaker 1: someplace that's that's just to the off the map. Like
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  Speaker 1: you said when you said walking downtown, you're walking them
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  Speaker 1: downtown in front of a prominent neighborhood. A tourist neck up. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And to answer your question directly, the civil matter has
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  Speaker 1: been resolved. We represented on the civil matter, but the
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  Speaker 1: Justice Department is still investigating the matter. But the problem
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  Speaker 1: me on the Almand Aubrey case was scared, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because you had the one guy who's don't want to
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  Speaker 1: be a part of the case, somebody he was just videotaping.
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  Speaker 1: Would you if you were the first to call that
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  Speaker 1: he should be arrested. I remember he said he should
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  Speaker 1: be arrested, He should be arrested, and eventually he was arrested.
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  Speaker 1: When you hear the whole story play out, it's even
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  Speaker 1: more crazy how they attacked and hunted down this young man,
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  Speaker 1: blocked his hiss, his point of traffic and trapped him. Yeah, Rishaw,
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  Speaker 1: it is just outrageous to think that. In we're not
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  Speaker 1: talking about nineteen thirty and nineteen four. We're talking about
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  Speaker 1: in a young man was lynched and broad daylight for
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  Speaker 1: joggon while black, and as you correctly stated, they chased him.
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  Speaker 1: I mean they chased him for over five minutes. So
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  Speaker 1: this is not like something where he wasn't trying to
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  Speaker 1: get away. He was doing everything in his power to
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  Speaker 1: get away from this lynch mob, this murderous father and
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  Speaker 1: son duo. And so what ended up happening, and you
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  Speaker 1: see on the video is when they corner him, this
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  Speaker 1: guy who's recording, who tries to act like he was
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  Speaker 1: not involved, even though there's text messages that suggest otherwise.
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  Speaker 1: But when he cornered them, then amad you hear the
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  Speaker 1: notion fight a flight. Well, man had did everything he
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  Speaker 1: could to take flight from these are nefarious actors, but
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  Speaker 1: then at that point he literally had to fight for
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  Speaker 1: his life. But unfortunately it was him fighting with his
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  Speaker 1: hands and then fighting with a shotgun. A shotgun ray shot,
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  Speaker 1: that is what they used to take down an elephant
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  Speaker 1: when it escapes the zoo. My experts tell me, unlike
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  Speaker 1: a gunshot wound that you can't survive because it's a
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  Speaker 1: single jacktowel that comes out. But they explained to me
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  Speaker 1: a shotgun, there are multiple projectiles that come out, and
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  Speaker 1: the entry room is small, but when those bullets going
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  Speaker 1: then they expand. They say the exit wound, and there
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  Speaker 1: will always be an exit room. With a shotgun, he said,
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  Speaker 1: a good shot, the bullet might stay inside you, but
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  Speaker 1: with a shotgun, it's gonna exit out. And when you
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  Speaker 1: look at that video, you see exactly what the experts say.
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  Speaker 1: They said that the exit one could be as big
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  Speaker 1: as a coffee cup saucer. And so you see at
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  Speaker 1: the last part of that video when my turns are
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  Speaker 1: running and you see the blood spot on his back
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  Speaker 1: expand you see it's like a teacup saucer. And that
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  Speaker 1: is the tragedy of the legend of a Mad Aubrey.
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  Speaker 1: And thank god we had video because I believe that
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  Speaker 1: is the only reason why this murderous father and un
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  Speaker 1: duo Travis and Greg McMichael's and their friend was charged
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  Speaker 1: and that trial will be coming in Georgia by the
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  Speaker 1: copp County District Attorney. Let let's talk about that for
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  Speaker 1: a minute, like because you immediately and I'm talking to
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  Speaker 1: attorney civil rights attorney Benjamin Crump here. The third guy,
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  Speaker 1: the videotape guy, what did you realize that he should
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  Speaker 1: be you know, prosecuted, that he should be arrested too. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, his story didn't quite add up when he said, well,
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  Speaker 1: he just saw Amad running and he just decided that
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  Speaker 1: he must be up to no good. Let me get
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  Speaker 1: and my car, grabbed my video tape. I just want
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  Speaker 1: to record it right right, Well, at some point, if
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  Speaker 1: you see these guys got guns and they're chasing this
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  Speaker 1: black guy, why wouldn't you call the police to say
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  Speaker 1: how long? Even if for my this up the wrong.
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  Speaker 1: We shouldn't have these people with guns taking the law
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  Speaker 1: into their own hand. We should have people who are
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  Speaker 1: professionals to deal with the situation. But he didn't do that,
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  Speaker 1: and that was telling to me and our co councils.
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  Speaker 1: We said, no, this story doesn't add up. And then
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  Speaker 1: we found out that they had an active conversation. When
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  Speaker 1: this young man runs through the neighborhood, we're gonna get
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  Speaker 1: him the next time he runs through here. Oh okay, cool,
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  Speaker 1: of course. I want to transition to the case that
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  Speaker 1: change the world, change this country, bro white people out
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  Speaker 1: of the streets into the streets. I hears say protested
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  Speaker 1: George Floyd. I I key part of my interview would
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  Speaker 1: use it because you was on ground zero with that
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  Speaker 1: and you saw said some things that nobody else can
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  Speaker 1: see but experienced it personally. Why did George Floyd have
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  Speaker 1: the impact his rachel injustice through the hands of four
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  Speaker 1: police officers changed his country in this world? Yeah? You know,
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  Speaker 1: mentor many people asked me that question. Uh, what is
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  Speaker 1: it about George Floyd that galvanized people all across America?
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  Speaker 1: Galvanized people all across the globe? And what I tell
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  Speaker 1: them is that, you know, most of us in society
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  Speaker 1: had gotten use to see in reality TV, but we
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  Speaker 1: were still shocked to see the documentary of a human
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  Speaker 1: being literally being touched to death by the people who
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  Speaker 1: were supposed to protect and serve them. I mean, the
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  Speaker 1: documentary of a man being murdered. And even more shocking
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  Speaker 1: Rashine was the fact that he narroed it the documentary
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  Speaker 1: of his own death. I mean, you m say I
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  Speaker 1: can't breathe twenty eight times, and then he says, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I can't feel my insize, I can't feel my legs.
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  Speaker 1: He says, tell my children I love them, and then
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  Speaker 1: he calls out for his mother, even though his mother
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  Speaker 1: had been dead two years prior to this tragic incident.
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  Speaker 1: But again, our experts tell us, our psychological experts tell us,
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  Speaker 1: when you are conscious that you maybe leaving this world,
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  Speaker 1: the life is escaping your body. You think back two
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  Speaker 1: when you first came in this world and who was
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  Speaker 1: your first pretty tecta. For many of us, that person
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  Speaker 1: was our mother. And so they say, it's very logical
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  Speaker 1: to hear George Floyd calling out for his mama as
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  Speaker 1: this guy has his knee on his neck for eight
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  Speaker 1: minutes and forty six seconds while another officer has two
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  Speaker 1: knees on his back compressing to die fram where he
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  Speaker 1: can't take oxygen in and expend oxygen to be able
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  Speaker 1: to breathe, and the fact that they offer him no humanity,
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  Speaker 1: no professionalism, no consideration. I mean, it is heartbreaking to
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  Speaker 1: watch that video and the reason I think people were
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  Speaker 1: marching and cities all across America, and cities all across
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  Speaker 1: the world. Is because once you see that video, you
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  Speaker 1: cannot see it. It has a permanent and racion on
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  Speaker 1: your psyche. And that is why George Floyd literally changed
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  Speaker 1: the world and why we have the George Floyd Justice
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  Speaker 1: and Police and Act that has passed the United States
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  Speaker 1: House of Representatives and where the victory and Georgia returned
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  Speaker 1: and control of the Senate to the Democratic Party. We
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  Speaker 1: believe that George Floyd Justice and Police and Act will
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  Speaker 1: be signed into the law by President elect Joe Biden
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  Speaker 1: and President elect Vice President let Kamala has my dear
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  Speaker 1: friend who will be president and Vice President. I'm proud
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  Speaker 1: to say, what is the law? Explain to my listeners
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  Speaker 1: and my viewers. Oh, the George Floyd Justice and uh
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  Speaker 1: Police and Accountability Act is act that is very, very
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  Speaker 1: inclusive of many of the things that the Congressional Caucus
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  Speaker 1: has fought for for decades. It includes abolishing the chokehole.
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  Speaker 1: Many people are not aware of shine that the chokehole
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  Speaker 1: is legal in many cities across America and the fact
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  Speaker 1: that seventy percent of the time the chokehole is executed
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  Speaker 1: by police. It's against people of color, especially minorities who
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  Speaker 1: are men. And then it's a abolishing the no knock warrants,
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  Speaker 1: which again is disproportionately executed against black people in America.
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  Speaker 1: That led to the death of Brianna Taylor. And it
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  Speaker 1: was foresyable that if you keep knocking in black people
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  Speaker 1: houses at one in the morning, that innocent victim like
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  Speaker 1: a Brianna Taylor would be killed. And they're not knocking
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  Speaker 1: in the doors of our white brothers and sisters. No,
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  Speaker 1: they're doing this to black people in America, And so
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  Speaker 1: it abolishes that. But then it also speaks to transparency,
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  Speaker 1: which is the body camera video, the fact that you
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  Speaker 1: have to have your body camera home when you engage
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  Speaker 1: a citizen for any confrontation, and if they are brutalized
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  Speaker 1: and if they are at worst killed and you didn't
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  Speaker 1: have that body came on, it is a rebuttable presumption
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  Speaker 1: that you did something nefarious or inappropriate or illegal, and
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  Speaker 1: you have to then we're not saying take the police
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  Speaker 1: officers due process of the law away from him. You're
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  Speaker 1: all innocent into proving guilty. However, there would be a
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  Speaker 1: rebuttable presumption that you now have to prove that there
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  Speaker 1: was not something you did illegal as to why that
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  Speaker 1: body camera was on. And finally, or when I should
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  Speaker 1: say two more important things. It deals with having a
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  Speaker 1: national registry. We don't have any national count or registry
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  Speaker 1: of the number of police involves shootings and killings and
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  Speaker 1: rode for deaths in America. And so now the George
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  Speaker 1: Floyd at will have the FBI keep track of all
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  Speaker 1: of those statistics as well as the complaints against police officers.
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  Speaker 1: So like in Tamil rights to twelve year old who
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  Speaker 1: was killed in Cleveland or iiO by a guy who
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  Speaker 1: had been fired six months earlier, left one police department
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  Speaker 1: and went right up the street to Cleveland and got
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  Speaker 1: another job. So people don't know because there's no national
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  Speaker 1: registry that monitors all of this here. And then finally
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  Speaker 1: this notion of qualified immunity that the Supreme Court of
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  Speaker 1: the United States has said, you know, you can't Monday
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  Speaker 1: morning quarterback to police. Uh, you you were not there.
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  Speaker 1: And so if he says he had a reasonable fear,
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  Speaker 1: because you know that's what the Supreme Court has said,
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  Speaker 1: all the police have to do is say three words,
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  Speaker 1: I felt fear, I felt threatened. And then they say,
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  Speaker 1: but he's justified and using deadly force even if the
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  Speaker 1: young black person was running away from them, kind of
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  Speaker 1: like in Jacob Blake Jr. And Connosha, Wisconsin, like Lakwa
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  Speaker 1: McDonald in Chicago, Illinois, like Walter Scott and uh South Carolina,
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  Speaker 1: like Terence Crutcher walking away with his hands up in
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  Speaker 1: broad daylight in tos Oklahoma. You know, in so many
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  Speaker 1: other cases Stephanie Clark running in Sacramento, California and his
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  Speaker 1: grandmother's backyard and they shoot us in the back, and
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  Speaker 1: the Supreme Court and said, well, all the officers got
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  Speaker 1: to do and say I felt threatened and that is
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  Speaker 1: enough to justify these unjustifiable acts. So George Floyd, Justice
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  Speaker 1: and Police and Accountability at is saying that, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: you have to have an objective, reasonable articulation to use
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  Speaker 1: deadly force, not just that this subjective fear, this imaginary
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  Speaker 1: fear that you well, I felt threatened because of the
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  Speaker 1: color of a person's skin. Skin. Let me ask you
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  Speaker 1: the George Floyd, the COVID nteen was raging. We didn't
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  Speaker 1: know it definitely had no vaccine at the time. The
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  Speaker 1: country is shut down in the month of it started
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  Speaker 1: you were still out there on the front lines. You
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  Speaker 1: wore a mask because sometimes idy to see you with
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  Speaker 1: to go home. Talk about that whole journey, because you're
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  Speaker 1: the job to do. But then also you were putting
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  Speaker 1: yourself on the front lines of danger with COVID ninteen.
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  Speaker 1: Talk about that run. Yeah, you know, I had stayed
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  Speaker 1: home literally for about two months, didn't leave the house.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I was trying to follow all the rules.
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  Speaker 1: seeing that video that I said, I I can't not
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