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Legendary Actor Bill Duke talks about his new crime drama “No Sudden Move” on HBO Max · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: is a dear friend, Bill Duke. Bill Duke is an
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  Speaker 1: actor director and producing Hollywood. More than forty years of
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  Speaker 1: experience on screen and behind the camera. Duke has currently
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  Speaker 1: started in Steven Sarderbergh's new crime drama No Southern Mood,
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  Speaker 1: Debating July one on HBO Max, which I do have
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  Speaker 1: that I will be watching him July one. His acting
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  Speaker 1: credits include recent television and feature film roles and shows
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  Speaker 1: like Black Lightning, I Love More Black Lightning, That's My
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  Speaker 1: about the movie which we had just said, Southern, No
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  Speaker 1: Southern Move, the Duke Media Foundation, which I really want
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  Speaker 1: My man Bill do was good to see you Bill,
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  Speaker 1: in a fraternity to change my perspective gave me a
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  Speaker 1: And that's that's the those statements that you say, I
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  Speaker 1: echo those statements, but in because of again, you know,
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  Speaker 1: in the community, because you know, even though you're an actor,
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  Speaker 1: allow you to capture people's attention. And when you capture
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  Speaker 1: don't shape their minds, shape their experiences. And I know
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna show to talk about, you know, the movie
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  Speaker 1: that you're starting in July, Onest is gonna be on
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  Speaker 1: I started my network. M we our generations. I think
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  Speaker 1: understand the value of your money. Am I wrong in
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  Speaker 1: talk about no sudden mood just debate. In July one
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  Speaker 1: on HBO, Max and you know, the brilliant producer, director
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  Speaker 1: fly it. Bill, What you're gonna do to me? Man,
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  Speaker 1: see what you are doing, fly me in, whoop my butt,
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  Speaker 1: gonna fly myself. And you see, people don't know Bill
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  Speaker 1: character you know, sinister, you know, don't ever smile you
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  Speaker 1: walking around. He might shoot you, knife you, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Or moving to TV. This the Bill I know right here,
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  Speaker 1: you know, smack talk off al laughing all the time.
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  Speaker 1: being with this? Only asking me? Do I know dominoes See,
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  Speaker 1: you can't insult me like that. No, mobile, dude, Man,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I was asking you a question of right, right, right?
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  Speaker 1: of this very important interview about our relationship. And it's
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  Speaker 1: and Matt David got really older in there, John Hamm,
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  Speaker 1: come on, now, man, that's a who's who are great? Acting?
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people? And that when you're get in
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  Speaker 1: the room like that build because you know it's all
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  Speaker 1: like a good basketball team. You know you could you
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  Speaker 1: see all these good basketball players. You want to make
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  Speaker 1: sure your free throws are right, your job shot right,
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  Speaker 1: you're grabbing the rebound. How do you approach that when
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  Speaker 1: you're in the scene with talented other people? Does A
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  Speaker 1: make sure I'm on porn? Or do you do? You do?
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  Speaker 1: You do? You talk to him? But prior to a scene.
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  Speaker 1: How does want to approach that? If you're a young
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  Speaker 1: person breaking into the business. Well, if you're a young
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  Speaker 1: person baking into the business, it's called show business. Business
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  Speaker 1: part is about relationships and so used to put your
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  Speaker 1: you know, Wayne Dyre says, every day we have went
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  Speaker 1: of two choices. If we could be a host to
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  Speaker 1: God or a hostage to our ego. Uh. In this business,
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  Speaker 1: if you're hostage here ego, some people get away with it.
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  Speaker 1: But for us as a culture, I think that's a
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  Speaker 1: really bad idea. I think establishing relationships uh, and honing
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  Speaker 1: your craft, because acting and directing a craft, so it's
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  Speaker 1: writing or other people are out partying, you should be
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  Speaker 1: home studying learning. Because when you party, you've accomplished something.
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  Speaker 1: It's called the celebration. So the thing is is that
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  Speaker 1: we have to really start taking it seriously. Today we're
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  Speaker 1: saying before life came into business, there was no internet,
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  Speaker 1: there was no social media. Young people today, Yeah, pictures
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  Speaker 1: are important. But if you're an acting class that you
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  Speaker 1: all should be in and you're working on two or
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  Speaker 1: three scenes with other actors for the class, then what
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  Speaker 1: you should do is if you want a picture plus
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  Speaker 1: and it edited, so you don't have to wait to
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  Speaker 1: be discovered. You can you can discover you look a
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  Speaker 1: did uh it's always sending in Philadelphia start off with webisodes.
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  Speaker 1: Been on the air for nine years. So those people
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  Speaker 1: they stopped waiting to make any sense absolutely well. I
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  Speaker 1: think that when you when you look at about a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people do wait too long? They want that that.
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  Speaker 1: I always tell people wait doing the lottery. You know
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  Speaker 1: they were doing that opportunity. They really do. Think it
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  Speaker 1: works in Hollywood. You're gonna walk down the street and
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  Speaker 1: somebody gonna tap you on the shoulder. That is not
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  Speaker 1: high work. That you may have heard that story, but
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  Speaker 1: that's what that's what that's like winning the lottery. There
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  Speaker 1: are people who do win tapping on the shoulder. M hm.
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  Speaker 1: You know that. You know who's going that's happy on
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  Speaker 1: the shoulder person? Tell you get out the way because
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  Speaker 1: they want to get in front of you. It's called ejection. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: absolutely that gets tapped a lot. That's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people understand about the entertainment, you know, because you know
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  Speaker 1: this for a factory or going in and the movie
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  Speaker 1: like this. And let's give you a little bit more
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  Speaker 1: background on No Sudden Mood. It's a British story which
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  Speaker 1: takes place in nineteen fifty four and the racially charged Detroit.
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  Speaker 1: And we know Detroit has always been a community where
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  Speaker 1: where where the police has an issue. It was trow
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  Speaker 1: Black you know, Moretown was there a group of small
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  Speaker 1: time criminals who are hired on the mysterious circumstances to
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  Speaker 1: steal what they think is a simple document. They file
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  Speaker 1: up the master plan and guess what, it all goes
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  Speaker 1: as they say to hell. And you include all these situations.
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  Speaker 1: So you have black people and white people trying to
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  Speaker 1: work together in nineteen fifty four right there, That tells
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  Speaker 1: you it's gonna be intense because you know, you dealing
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  Speaker 1: with high levels of racial prejudice and also black people
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  Speaker 1: just can't move around like white people came back then.
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  Speaker 1: That's right, So how does what role do you play
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  Speaker 1: in all of this? Bill Duke? Well, you you so
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  Speaker 1: brilliantly and actually described the conditions of the time. Uh
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  Speaker 1: and um. In those days, you had confrontations based upon
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  Speaker 1: race and social positions. So if you were black, you
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  Speaker 1: had to be able, as I said before, to be
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  Speaker 1: able to play chess in the chess games. So if they,
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  Speaker 1: you know, had negotiators with them, you have to negotiate
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  Speaker 1: with the negotiations didn't go well, and they had guns.
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  Speaker 1: You had to have guns, so you know, you you
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  Speaker 1: could not negotiate with with someone who felt you were
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  Speaker 1: weak and unprepared. The only way you could negotiate with
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  Speaker 1: them is to look him in the eye. And they
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  Speaker 1: understood the consequences of disrespecting you. M So I played
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  Speaker 1: the head of the black gang and we negotiate over
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  Speaker 1: some issues that I don't want to give away now
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  Speaker 1: give movie away, but we are negotiators and they don't
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  Speaker 1: expect us to be that and they're surprised by it,
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  Speaker 1: but they do negotiate with us. Now, let me know
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: when you look at movies, because we've seen how covid
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  Speaker 1: has changed the game, and also streaming networks Netflix, Amazon,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: you know, Hulu, Disney Plus have changed the game. They
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: opened in movies that were opening the theater, opening online
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  Speaker 1: and streaming and all they're doing the simul simulcastic. They
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  Speaker 1: simulcastically they like they they were Cruella Crewella opening in
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  Speaker 1: the theater as well as our Disney Plus and in
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  Speaker 1: the premium network. Have you seen a change in the
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  Speaker 1: quality or it doesn't matter. They still producing high quality
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  Speaker 1: movies even for streaming as well as for the big theaters.
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  Speaker 1: Some of them are high quality and some of them
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  Speaker 1: are not. Some people are giving cameras to make movies
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  Speaker 1: and they they've never studied directing, they've never studied writing
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  Speaker 1: or anything because of relationship they have with the relative,
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  Speaker 1: somebody who has money. But I I I still believe
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  Speaker 1: in people who take the time to study their discipline.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm not going to say it's easy. It's not.
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  Speaker 1: But you have to know, you know, you have to
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  Speaker 1: read books. You know you have to you know, you
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  Speaker 1: you have to be able to understand structure, not only
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  Speaker 1: the structure of the movie, but what is character structure.
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  Speaker 1: You know, what is the beginning, middle, and end of
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  Speaker 1: the movie. What is the storyline? What is the character line?
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  Speaker 1: How do you hook people in emotionally to what you're
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  Speaker 1: talking about? Those are crafts and skills that should be studied,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and there are books at schools you can
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  Speaker 1: go to. UM. You know that, you know that one
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  Speaker 1: of the great books. But Joseph Campbell's a hero with
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  Speaker 1: a thousand faces. Even Steelberg, all those people use a
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  Speaker 1: hero of a thousand faces, and so do I. Another
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  Speaker 1: great book, Machili The Five Season Cinematography. It's another. It's
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  Speaker 1: another great book, you know. UM. Another great UH book
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  Speaker 1: is you know some super groalthy Art of War, right
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  Speaker 1: the the The War of Art is another great book.
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  Speaker 1: Talks about how we procrastinatese and make excuses for not
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  Speaker 1: doing what we know we should be doing, and what
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  Speaker 1: are the patterns of that and how to get out
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  Speaker 1: of that. So studying our craft, studying things, I think
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  Speaker 1: it's very important for young people. Company h no sudden
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  Speaker 1: moves of talking to Bill Duke about the movie that
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  Speaker 1: premiers July one on HBO. Max Uh. It's a great movie,
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  Speaker 1: she said in nineteen fifty four, it's about black people
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  Speaker 1: white people. You know, there were no of video phones
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  Speaker 1: back there. You know, police violence still existed. It has
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  Speaker 1: existed all our lives as an African American. We know that.
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  Speaker 1: But when you look at what you've done. I talked
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  Speaker 1: about the Duke Media Foundation. I talked about that, but
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  Speaker 1: I always want to ship before we get off the
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  Speaker 1: believe starts July twenty one, but you say there's up
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  Speaker 1: will have a really serious soft launch. And I'm putting
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  Speaker 1: a network together because I have children in my life.
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  Speaker 1: I have a God daughter, I have children that I
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  Speaker 1: love God sons sons, and I think we have responsibility
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  Speaker 1: to leave them something called hope. Right right now, when
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: you turn the news on, it's all bad. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we're being divided in ways that we've always been at
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  Speaker 1: the I Did country basically, etcetera. But now taking a
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  Speaker 1: whole other level with the COVID, with racism, with the politics,
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• 29:31
  Speaker 1: you're it's a show about individuals who are doing good
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: and that's what should be reported. So I have a
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  Speaker 1: network that really is devoted to leave hope for our children,
• 29:45
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  Speaker 1: that have been made so they could be here today
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  Speaker 1: number of different programs on their network. I have the
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  Speaker 1: people check it out. Well, you know, the uh you
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  Speaker 1: that you just mentioned the Mr Bill do you know,
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  Speaker 1: him there though Bill. You didn't mention him though, Bill, No,
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