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E96: Exposing Pornhub and Fighting for California · The Lila Rose Show

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Pornhub should be criminally charged and their executives
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should be behind bars, period. They have operated too long
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illegally hosting abuse content. Pornhub is scared, Mike Farley
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said on tape. There was a time when we would
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go through videos and the only videos we would reject were
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where someone was literally getting murdered.
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Welcome back to the Lila Rose podcast.
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Today's episode is a special Movers and Shakers edition.
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We're going to be occasionally doing these sorts of shows to
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feature people who are doing things that are very important
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in our culture and our political world.
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These people are taking risks. They're going maybe undercover.
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They're running for office. They're doing things up against
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a Goliath, an enemy that we all share, something negative in our
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culture, and they're fighting for what is good, true, and
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beautiful. Today we'll be featuring Peter
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Hernandez, a father, a small business owner, a proud
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immigrant who is running for California District 18.
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He's running for office. He's doing it in a very blue
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state. As you know, I'm California and
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I love my state, but our state is full of many anti life, anti
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family and in many ways anti faith politicians who have taken
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over the state. Peter Hernandez is talking about
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how he plans to take back California and how his work and
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what he's doing running for office in Central California can
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be part of that strategy to win back the state.
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So you're not going to want to miss what he has to say.
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And then we're also going to hear from Arden Young.
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Arden Young is a young activist who I really had a soft spot in
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my heart for when I found out about her work because she does
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undercover investigative reporting of not Planned
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Parenthood, but of Pornhub, of one of the biggest pornography
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websites on the planet. And her work has led to
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attorneys general opening an investigation and working to
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demand justice for the victims of Pornhub.
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So this very young woman, you're going to love to hear her story,
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what motivates her, as well as the very important work that
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she's doing exposing Pornhub with the organization Sound
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Investigations, which is run in collaboration with another
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person I admire, a young man named Eric Cochran.
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Eric Cochran is someone who actually was a whistleblower
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over at Pinterest a few years ago.
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Yes, the popular website that shares pictures.
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If you're listening and you got married recently or you like
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home decor, you probably use Pinterest.
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I'm banned on Pinterest because Pinterest, if you didn't know
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this already, is a very pro abortion, anti life company.
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And Eric Cochran was one of their engineers, one of their
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leading engineers actually. He was fired after being a
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whistleblower at Pinterest showing revealing that they had
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listed live action and myself as pornography on the website in
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order to block our content, our pro-life content from being
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viewed. And that this was done
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intentionally at Pinterest in order to block pro-life content
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on the platform. Afterwards, Pinterest would ban
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live action permanently for no fault except that we put out
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pro-life content. Meanwhile, Pinterest is actually
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putting out for abortion content, allowing abortionists
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to not just be on the site, but to advertise through those
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little cute squares, abortion services as they call them on
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Pinterest. So Arden Young, working with
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Eric Cochran over at Sound Investigations, has a bombshell
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investigation of Pornhub. You're going to want to hear
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what she has to say. I hope listening to Peter and
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Arden, you can be inspired by their initiative and their
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to draw closer to God and deepen your pro-life, Peter.
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Hernandez, thanks so much for joining the podcast.
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Thank you for having me, Lila. I've heard a lot of great things
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about you and your very important campaign to help save
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California. You're running for Congress here
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in the state. It's a tough, tough battle, but
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let's start with your background.
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You know what? What is your background and what
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motivated you to as a pro-life or run for run for election in
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this crazy state? It's funny because I, as, as I
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think about when I first got elected, really reflecting on,
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on the why that, that that definitely came up amongst the
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support, the support group. And it really is a mission
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field. I mean, I think when it comes to
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running for office, it's a new mission field because the
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reality of politics is it's broken.
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Everything's very top down. And and I, you know, as God put
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it on my heart, there is no way to understand how to fix
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something if you don't, if you're not involved, right, if
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you're not a part of it. So I ran 2014 got elected to the
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school board started understanding better what what
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exactly was the function of the school system and the school
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board, the board member authority and then running for
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county supervisor serving four years.
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And it's funny how you I felt like I got thrown into the deep
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end of the pool. Lila 2018 getting elected 2020
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the COVID pandemic hit. I was right in the middle of it
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with the lockdowns and the mandates.
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And as a strong conservative Christian, I understood that
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there's an authority that ultimately that we have by the
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people, right, The consent of the governed.
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And, you know, I, I felt like it just, there was just moments in
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time when I reflected on why, you know, ultimately the
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Constitution has so much power, but it's not used, right?
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It's a muscle that's yet to be flexed and used.
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And so I did it in 2020. I challenged the public health
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officer and the mandates and, and sure enough, it's funny
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because I know I didn't have the votes in that room to oppose it.
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I brought forward an informed consent resolution as an
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example. But the big conviction that I
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had is the silence in the room. The silence is to me equates to
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the silence in the public. So long and short, I just found
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myself knowing that God called me to this because it's not Even
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so much about having the votes in the room, but starting the
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conversation with the culture because really the battles in
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the culture to win them back to really give them that
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citizenship mindset that they take their, their
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responsibility, their duty, responsibility to be involved
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to, to, to be game changers in their environment.
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So I really didn't feel like I was the one doing the biggest
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game changing besides the fact that I was there to educate the
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public on their duty and their, their authority.
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So, so I just wanted to, I made I, I swam in the deep end of the
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pool challenge, the lockdowns, the mandates, the public health
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officer quit two hours later. And sure enough, it created, I
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think a ripple effect of not just support, ultimately a
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conversation. So that's why I just felt just
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validated in why I ran for office and getting elected.
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And it's a calling for sure. Peter, what part of California
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are you running in? So I'm running Congressional
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District 18. It's the Central Coast of
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California. There's 4 counties, Monterey,
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San Benito, Santa Cruz, in South Santa Clara.
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It actually just got added into through the redistricting
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process. It got added in those three
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brand new counties. It's a majority now official
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Latino district. And there's a lot to be said
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about the the votes of the Latino community and the
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pro-life sentiment. Absolutely.
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OK. So tell me why you're so
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pro-life and then also how you plan to reach the Latino
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community, because I know that that is, like you're saying,
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part of the future for California.
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That's right. So like I mentioned, so my
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background is, is we're, I'm a first generation Mexican
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American. My, my whole family is majority
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Latino. I mean, I'm their first
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generation from Mexico. So they're obviously from for
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they have the traditional value background.
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That's what I came from. That's what I, that's what I've
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always known, right? I mean, my mom used to say
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you're born Catholic, you're going to die a Catholic.
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You know, I went through confirmation and, and, and
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baptism. So all that to be said is coming
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into this country, I, I realized that there's blessings that
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God's given this nation when it comes to my pro-life sentiment.
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I mean, we came here because of the fact that my family wanted a
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new opportunity. My mother and my father, who
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stayed together in spite of my dad going through his struggles
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as as an alcoholic, he was very abusive and was in Mexico,
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didn't allow, or I should say the system in Mexico to a
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certain extent, you know, created an opportunity for that
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abuse. So that by default was a
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compelling reason for my mom to say, let's start all over, let's
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go to, to, to America. And, and it's funny because I
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didn't even realize till my my mom almost passed.
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She told me that when before we came to this country because of
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my dad's abuse, my mom had basically had two miscarriages.
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And my, my, the, the people that surrounded my mother basically
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had advised her to divorce my father.
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And, and if she would have listened to them, she had a
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strong conviction that she wasn't supposed to.
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And obviously that doesn't encourage abuse.
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That's my, that's not my sentiment, but you just never
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know, I guess is my biggest statement.
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You don't know the decisions that you make and the
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consequences that come from decisions.
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And my mom, if she wouldn't have picked staying with my father, I
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wouldn't have been born and and then Fast forward me as a father
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now being being a father myself, trying to learn from the past
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and not repeat the mistakes of my father.
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I've had my two children. I've done my best to honor God
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and to live a good life that doesn't come without its
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struggles. Both my children, I have a
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three-year old and a nine year old.
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Both of them came up through the genetic testing with physical
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issues. One had an atrophied kidney and
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you know, technically there was worries that it could, that the
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other one could, could help be negatively, negatively be
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impacted by it and could potentially die and obviously
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cause a lot of headache and heartache and, and medical
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bills. Same thing with my daughter.
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She was born with Turner syndrome and we didn't know how
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extreme it would be until she would be born.
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So we didn't know she would come out with serious malformations,
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heart issues, you name it. I mean, we were scared both
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times, but that's the profound thing about Faith, Lila, as you
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know that, you know, as God delivers, he gives you just this
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hope that there's something better and you don't know the
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outcomes. And sure enough, not only am I
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blessed to live in this country, but my two children are
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thriving. They're doing really well.
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And and how do you replace the memories that now have
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officially been created of the blessings of those of those
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beautiful little lives? My, my, my son is he's profound.
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Like he's so articulate, very, very clear minded.
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He's such a student. He loves history.
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He he he, he watches documentaries for fun on World
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War 2 anyway, so I want and on. But the bottom line is, is
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there's very profound reasons why life when you pursue it, it
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has evident benefits and and it doesn't come without pain.
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But life is not, he does not have struggles.
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And and I think as Latino community has struggled and you
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know, in this country, we've known that life isn't easy.
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And we've always had this mindset of work has dignity and
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that you can't separate the two. And we come into this country
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and somehow now we're supposed to be part of the system that
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gives us entitlements and benefits that actually do less
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to preserve our dignity and more to destroy the culture and the
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traditions that matter to us. So for all those reasons and a
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lot more, I feel like life is the core issue.
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It is the dominant issue. And the one I mean, this is the
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profound thing that I felt God put on my heart was the one that
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can define life, can define all of life, and can therefore can
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control all of it. And I would not want to put that
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power in the hand of any man, including myself.
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I believe it belongs to God. Well said.
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So, Peter, you're in a really tough district.
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I mean, every district in California is tough to varying
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degrees. The state is fully run by
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Democrats basically. I mean, a very pro abortion
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Democrats or Governor Gavin Newsom is super pro abortion and
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you know, pro lockdown. Of course he was partying during
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the lockdown that he was demanding.
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So you just have a lot of hypocrisy, corruption, pro
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abortion, anti family policies in the state.
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Tell us about your race. Do you think you can win and
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why? So 40% of California, that's
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kind of the biggest elephant in the room that people don't speak
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about enough. 40% of the of the voting bloc of California is
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Latino. The Latinos is the majority in
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this state. Whoever wins the Latino vote
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wins this state. The hard part is, is for
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different reasons, they don't always show up to vote right.
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And, and, but the reality is, is we're, there's very profound
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things that 'cause us, I think as, as humans, as, as
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individuals on, on why we should be engaged.
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And I would argue that the family unit is one of them.
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We're seeing this very extreme sentiment that now wants to
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strip you of your right as a parent wants to strip you of
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your right to preserve the interest of your family.
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Now you have children that are able to take, you know, get an
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abortion at 12 years old. They can take hormone and and
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sex drugs basically without the parents consent or even
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knowledge. Now even insurances can actually
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provide for that health, that type of a, a service to our, to
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a 12 year old. The Latino community doesn't
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under doesn't know these things, right?
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They're they're hard working people.
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They're involved in their lives, taking care of their kids and
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they basically haven't had their eye on the ball.
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But The funny thing is, is now when things are coming to a head
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and the issues are becoming very real because economically
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they're not doing as well. I mean, if you think about
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minorities, middle class folks, low income folks, a big chunk of
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them are Latinos. And that by default highlights
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the reality that they, they're struggling and they're not,
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they're asking why. And a lot of them are not
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realizing or can't connect the dots of what are these issues
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that are causing their, their pain.
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And I, you know, I felt like, again, that's why it was my
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calling, getting involved, understanding these issues,
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being a county supervisor and knowing the legislative process,
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my authority, the state policies, all the things that
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negatively impact our, our, our outcomes in our communities.
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And as I learn these things as, as I've gone out there and
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clearly articulated where these pain points are coming from,
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there's an excitement there. What you know, when a Latino
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hears that God established this nation, gave them inalienable
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rights, due process, separation of powers, you know, you're
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innocent before proven guilty, which is not the reality in
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Mexico. It's a profound thing for them
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to say, what is this freedom that we have?
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How do we fight for it and preserve it?
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And once they understand these very freedoms, they're hungry to
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do more. And us Latinos, we know how to
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do with very little to nothing. So money is is not the motivator
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at the end of the day, you can get a very active, hungry Latino
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workforce to get out there and get out the vote and do the
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right thing. And I know we can do it.
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We just got to empower them. And that's the conviction that I
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had. We need a new we, we need,
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truly, really need a servant's heart in public service right
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then the Bible says he Lord didn't come to be served, but to
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serve and give his life as a ransom for many.
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That means sacrificial attitude, a a citizen's citizen servant
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attitude. And I believe that's what people
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are hungry for. Once they see that in someone, I
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believe like me, they'll be, they'll be excited to get behind
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me. And that's what's happened in
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22. I already ran in 22 and we, we
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did really well, all things considered.
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It was our first time. So now we've played the ground
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floor for a a very strong showing in 24.
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Peter, who are you up against? Who's your opposition?
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I'm up against Zoe Lofgren, very extreme progressive left lady
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and she's been in office for 27 years.
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She's never had a connection to this community by default.
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Obviously every, when you think about the nature of this
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district, it's rural, it's agricultural, it's middle class,
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it's it's Latino, it's everything I am and she's not.
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So she's up against something. And it's funny because I don't
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mind being the underdog. I actually kind of enjoy it
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because I think in a lot of ways she's overlooking me.
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I'm ready. I've done the hard work.
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I've been campaigning technically for three years.
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Lila, I haven't given up because in, you know, I, I ran in 22 and
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it's been the, you know, technically it's a two year
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race, but nonetheless, I knew that it that it takes a lot
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longer than one election cycle when you're brand new to get
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your name out there. So we've done the work.
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We're putting our time in. And my opponent, I think, is
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realizing that, which is why, yeah, there's there's a big
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machine trying to trying to come up against me.
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But I know God's, God's in my God's on my side.
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How are the polls looking, Peter?
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So there there's two polls, one done in the 2022 election and
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one just recently post election and there's definitely a shift
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happening. The three top issues are border
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security, violent crime, and then you're also dealing with
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inflation. So the pain points.
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I mean, it's funny because these are majority Democrat voters
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that were polled and border security, right?
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Technically the, the, the, the great replacement theory is
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very, very true. 8 out of 10 people that are crossing the
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border illegally. When you think of even the
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preservation of life, right? Technically speaking, the the
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sentiment of the Latino community coming into this
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country wanting an opportunity. Now they're officially going to
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be replaced because 8 out of 10 people that are crossing the
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border are no longer from Mexico.
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They're from every other nation. So that's happening now.
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So jobs are officially going to become a weakened opportunity.
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Obviously the threats of, of terrorism, but when you look at
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violent crime, the decriminalization laws, things
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that have made it easier for criminals basically to, to, to
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commit crimes, $950, no cash bail, all these kind of things
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that are making it easier basically for the criminal to
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get away with things and for the innocent to be damaged, right?
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To be, to be insecure in their persons and their property,
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right? I mean, so there's so many
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things that are happening that these, that the community, this
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district, the Latinos are very aware of now.
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And honestly, they're, they're waiting to be courted.
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I mean, if anything I can say about the party in general is
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they haven't done a good enough job of courting the Latino
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community. Because if we did that, if we
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talked to them, if we engage them and said, look, we, we
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don't want to tell you what to believe.
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We just want to know where you're at and how we can help
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you and win them over. I know we can court them on our
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side. Technically speaking.
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The you know, when I, when people ask me, are you
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Republican or Democrat, Peter, I say I'm a Republican, but
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because of my values, I'm not a Republican because of the party,
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my values make the party, not the other way around.
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So there is this strong sentiment of firming up the
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foundation under, I would argue candidates like me that want to
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be able to advance a goal where it's not self-serving, where
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it's actually looking to make an effective change.
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I've said it before, I'm 100% OK with term limits.
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I get elected, I'm going to do a job and I know that there's
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consultants and there's folks that tell me, Peter, you got to
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be careful what you say because you got to put yourself in a
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position to get elected. I would argue it's the opposite.
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The best thing that I could do is commit to doing a job, not
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worry about getting elected when I get in there, actually do that
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job. And that might get me re
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elected. And if it doesn't, I'd be proud
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to serve just two years in Congress.
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But regardless, it will change the landscape of politics
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because people will be in there for the for the right reasons
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and not for the wrong reasons. It's the self-serving attitude
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that I think has destroyed the respect or the trust of the
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House of Representatives. So the GOP in California is not
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very strong. What has your support been like
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from the GOP and then what are you looking for?
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How can people help your campaign and help you?
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So I mean, as, as is California fractured when it comes to the
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GOP leadership. And I understand they're limited
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in resources. I would argue it's because of
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their top down system. Regardless, it's bottom up.
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It's empowering people. It's giving them the, the
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organizational structure. We have, you know, we have a, a
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firm that's behind us, It's supporting us and we obviously
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have the, the, the relationships that we've already built in the
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region. The, you know, we act, there's
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actually different organizations that are charters of the GOP
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like the CRA, California Republican Assembly that they're
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building that workforce. They're getting the, they're
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getting that the ultimately the support system connected to get
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out the vote to do the, the, you know, ballot harvesting, working
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with the churches. I'm actually close to Pastor Rob
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McCoy in Southern California, Pastor Mike McClure up in San
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Jose region. So there is different organic
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groups that are working together unifying the the base and the
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voter base basically to get out the vote.
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When's the big day for the election and then how can people
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support your campaign? So the big days, technically
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March 5th is right now the primary, but obviously in
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November 6th is the election. That's the big day.
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And yeah, if they can go to hernandezforcongress.com.
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Everything at Hernandez for Congress on all my social media
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handles, you'll be able to find me.
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You know, if you can donate, if you can call me, reach out and
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coordinate so that we can walk together, work together.
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I think there's a message to be had.
22:32
I think the Latino community being very pro-life.
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There was actually an Axios poll done that highlights that if you
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look at the first generation individuals, families from
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Mexico, they're very, very pro-life.
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It's only the, the, the, the, you know, the postmodern
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sentiment of the, the Latino community that it isn't as much.
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Regardless, I believe once we bring them back to their roots,
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we're going to unify this district to win it back.
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Awesome. Well, listen, Peter, I wish you
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the very best. I think what you're doing is
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for this state, but it takes it's going to just take a lot of
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work and belief, and that's exactly what you're doing.
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podcast. Thank you so much for having me,
24:19
Lila. So fun to sit down with you.
24:21
Yeah, it's so good to be here and I watch so much of your work
24:26
and the undercover work that Live Action has done has been
24:30
very inspiring. Good.
24:31
Well, I think your undercover work is awesome and I'm excited
24:35
to talk about it today because people need to know what you're
24:37
finding and exposing. And we're also both California
24:41
girls, which I love, although you've defected.
24:44
I yeah, I moved away in search of a better life, but who knows,
24:48
I may be back in the future. So where did you move away to?
24:53
Initially Florida, but I'm just on the road so much.
24:56
Yeah, I don't know if I really live anywhere.
24:58
Yeah, well, it's funny. A lot of Californians end up in
25:01
Florida and like Governor DeSantis, everyone's like he's
25:05
our, he's the best compared to Gavin Newsom.
25:07
Like, I mean, they're, they're, they did that debate, you know,
25:10
I think a couple months ago now, you know, the warrant, the
25:13
debate of the governors, it's like 2 different ways of
25:15
leadership. And I will take the California
25:17
coastline and the California beauty.
25:20
And I would just put DeSantis. Install him.
25:25
Florida can have Newsom and I'll put the Santas.
25:27
Yeah. No, I don't.
25:28
I don't wish Newsom on anyone. All right, well, I'm excited to
25:32
hear about sound investigations. We have a mutual friend, Eric
25:35
Cochran, whom you work with and he exposed back in the day
25:39
Pinterest listing live action and others basically blocking
25:45
pro-life content on Pinterest because they're very pro
25:48
abortion and listing us as pornography.
25:51
Ironically, we're going to be talking about pornography today,
25:54
but you have just done incredible work recently that's
25:57
making a big impact. I want to start with your
25:59
background, how you got into under cover work, because that's
26:03
always an interesting story and unusual.
26:05
Not a lot of people do that. Yeah.
26:08
So let's start there. So I entered the acting world.
26:12
I grew up in Los Angeles at 12 years old, and so I thought I
26:18
was going to be an actress. I was pursuing acting work.
26:20
I did guest roles on shows, you know, Disney, ABC Family type of
26:24
content. And then as I got a little bit
26:28
older, in my early 20s, I kind of started to have some
26:34
different opinions than other people in Hollywood had, and I
26:38
wasn't really able to speak openly about them.
26:42
I felt like if I did, I would lose work and essentially be
26:47
just unable to work in Hollywood anymore.
26:51
There are other reasons, too. I mean, I went through a lot of
26:53
very inappropriate situations during my time as an actor, and
27:00
I was just looking for something else at a certain point.
27:03
So I happened to meet an undercover journalist at a party
27:07
and he convinced me to get into undercover.
27:10
How do you How does a person at a party say hi?
27:13
What do you do? I'm an undercover journalist.
27:15
I. Know I didn't understand he had
27:17
to. Like he said that.
27:18
He literally said I've been undercover.
27:20
I had no idea what it was he had to pull up.
27:22
Do you out yourself like that at parties?
27:24
I mean I. Guess he did.
27:26
He did. He didn't care.
27:28
He was maybe trying to impress you, I don't know.
27:31
But, you know, he pulls up these videos that are, you know,
27:34
undercover videos. Nothing I've ever seen before.
27:36
And I was really impressed and I was feeling a little impulsive.
27:42
I just decided to try it. And flash forward four years
27:47
later, here I am working under sound investigations and
27:51
investigating Pornhub. OK, so backing up to your acting
27:56
experience, I have to ask what shows any shows that?
27:59
Yeah, I think everyone where I go, you can just say yeah.
28:03
So the most recognizable, I would say would be Modern
28:06
Family. OK.
28:07
And then I did a blackish, fresh off the boat, of course.
28:11
Got it. Nice.
28:12
I did a Disney show called Kicking It and you know, NCISLA,
28:16
things like that where it was like shows that ran a really
28:19
long time. Yeah.
28:20
But your experience, it sounds like you said in the industry
28:22
there were lots of, I think you used a word inappropriate
28:25
situations even that you had to face.
28:27
And then obviously the world view of people was sounds like
28:30
it was increasingly different than yours.
28:31
Yeah, I, you know, the industry, the entertainment industry is
28:36
just really hyper sexualized, even to children.
28:40
And I became very brainwashed. I think through all of that.
28:47
I I came to believe as a young kid that I needed to be sexual
28:53
or sexually appealing in order to be valuable to others.
28:58
And that started when I was 12 when I entered the industry.
29:01
So I was catering how I was dressing and acting to basically
29:06
appeal to older men. And it was very destructive to
29:13
myself worth and my confidence and just everything in my life.
29:19
So as I got older, I gained some maturity and I gained some
29:27
worldview on just that. There are more important things
29:31
going on in the world than art and being on a new show.
29:35
And I began to care about larger issues, including sexual
29:39
exploitation, so. What sparked that for you?
29:42
Starting to care about sexual exploitation, especially of
29:47
kids. Yeah, I think witnessing a lot
29:49
myself, you know, I just for example, like I was in a
29:54
children's acting class where the adult teacher had me and
29:59
another 13 year old girl make out very sexually on a couch
30:04
many, many times in front of him.
30:05
And he later solicited me for sex when I was about 15 or 16.
30:11
And, you know, fill in the blank.
30:14
So many different stories like that either.
30:16
And it was under the guise of acting.
30:18
I mean, that's what he was telling.
30:19
You. Yeah, as a 13 year old, yeah,
30:22
that's insane. Yeah, he said, you know, this is
30:24
the scene you're doing. So, you know, act it out type of
30:27
thing. And so many situations like
30:31
that. I, I was one of the lucky ones.
30:33
I witnessed and heard about much worse.
30:37
But I started to notice an issue with how sexual very, very young
30:43
kids were becoming just through under the guise of acting,
30:47
right. So I think that's what planted
30:50
the seed to make me care about sexual exploitation.
30:54
So when you joined Eric Cochran at Sound Investigations, this is
30:58
a new organization, the not-for-profit I understand
31:03
correctly and Eric had done this great work before you joined
31:06
him. How did the tell me about the
31:08
genesis of hey, we're going to go explore expose Pornhub?
31:13
Yeah, well, investigating the adult industry is something that
31:18
Erics wanted to do for a long time now.
31:23
And about a year ago, I guess he just finally got the resources
31:26
together to form the organization.
31:29
And he called me and said, hey, are you available to do some
31:33
undercover work into Pornhub? Here?
31:35
Read this article from The New York Times that was written in
31:39
2020, The Children of Pornhub and it details these underage
31:45
victims abuse videos being monetized on Pornhub and all of
31:51
their struggles to contact Pornhub to try to get them taken
31:55
down. And just reading about that was
31:59
mind blowing because I always believed the pornography
32:04
industry was an evil and didn't have anyone's best interests at
32:10
heart. But I don't think I was aware of
32:13
how predatory it really was until I read that article.
32:19
So I read that and I said, yeah, let's do it.
32:23
And this is a complete passion project of both of ours.
32:27
Eric is literally, you know, self funding this entire thing.
32:31
So far, we haven't, we didn't solicit any donations for any
32:36
like large money groups for anything.
32:38
We just wanted to prove that we could do this.
32:40
So this is both of our babies. Well, you definitely prove that
32:44
you can do amazing things with this investigation.
32:47
It went viral. The first video, we were really
32:50
proud to put it up on our platforms and share it because
32:53
it was so compelling. Let's walk through.
32:56
Give us the very high level of what your approach was to expose
32:59
Pornhub's exploitation of children.
33:02
And then I want to actually watch some of the video with you
33:04
and let our audience hear some of that video.
33:06
Yeah, absolutely. One of the first videos you
33:08
released. Yeah, I mean, it sounds crazy
33:11
simple. We literally just checked up who
33:14
works at Mindgeek, which at the time was the parent company of
33:17
Pornhub. They have now changed the name
33:19
to a low. So we're looking at who works
33:22
for a low essentially. And we just used publicly
33:26
available information to find who their employees were.
33:29
And we thought of a few different creative ways we could
33:33
get in touch with each of them. And we ended up speaking total,
33:37
I think with about a dozen employees.
33:40
OK, let's do some video viewing together now and share it with
33:44
folks listening. So this is the first video
33:47
released in the series from Sound Investigations.
33:52
Any anything else people should know before they watch?
33:55
We watch this together. No, this first video, it's
34:00
features Mike Farley. He is an 11 year employee at
34:05
Pornhub, he's the product manager there, and he was the
34:08
number seven employee to ever be hired.
34:10
Wow. And how big is Pornhub?
34:12
Pornhub. It's hard to say.
34:15
Speaking about the parent company, Alo, I believe they
34:20
have like between 1 and 3000 employees.
34:23
I don't know the exact number, but they're scattered kind of
34:26
all around the world. It's one of the leading porn
34:28
sites though. Yeah, I think it still stands as
34:31
the number 8 most visited website in the entire world.
34:34
Wow. It has a monopoly over North
34:37
American porn in general. They own hundreds of different
34:40
pornography websites. They do everything from right to
34:44
shoot the pornography, they distribute it.
34:47
They have their own in house ads network.
34:50
Their competitors come to them for consulting.
34:53
They have a monopoly. It's I think I would even
34:56
venture to say almost impossible to watch online pornography
35:00
North America without giving business or giving a view to a
35:04
low the parent company. Wow, they are the Planned
35:07
Parenthood of the porn industry. Yeah, that's a really good way
35:09
to say it. OK, here we go are.
35:12
You an adult me like who's in the that video of the girls
35:14
rushing under her face like that was holding.
35:17
That would be the loophole that I always like.
35:19
I look at that and was like, that's everybody is just kind of
35:22
rolling with it. Why don't they just roll with
35:26
it? Why don't they say something?
35:28
Who exploits the loophole? Everyone, you make a lot of
35:35
money. You make this, use it or.
35:40
We've brought it up in the, you know, we've brought it up in
35:42
Seattle and they're both telling us talking.
35:44
And the Cpl. is especially telling us, like they know that
35:49
might shut up. I'm not gonna get caught.
35:53
What if like? The government wants to find out
35:56
about this new poll. What?
35:58
They do. They're not gonna do.
36:04
They're done. They don't know, so don't
36:08
qualify. Meet Mike Farley Farley is a
36:13
product manager at Pornhub who has been working at Pornhub for
36:17
more than 10 years. Do.
36:19
You think anything slips through the guys?
36:27
I don't know. Because at the end of the day,
36:30
it's like, why are you going to tell me?
36:34
Like who's in that video of the girl's motion on her face?
36:37
Because. Someone could still lie.
36:38
And get around it. Because this is stupid because
36:40
it's like I could be a contented uploader and I the only thing
36:44
you need from me is like, you don't need a picture of my ID,
36:48
my drivers, if that's my face off.
36:50
But that's just my face off. I don't see my body and now my
36:54
videos never have my face. You can't really guarantee that
37:00
that would be the loophole that I always, if I look at that,
37:03
it's like I stick this, but everybody is just kind of
37:06
rolling with it. Why did they just roll?
37:10
With it, why did they say something?
37:16
It'd be counterintuitive in the business.
37:21
Okay, so what's so incredible about this?
37:24
Let's let's actually break this down for people listening.
37:26
There's people watching this and there's also people listening on
37:28
podcast right now. You can kind of hear what he's
37:30
saying. He's talking about loopholes.
37:32
He's talking about how you can't really verify someone saying
37:34
that this is my content because it's supposed to be user
37:37
generated, supposedly some of it.
37:39
And the problem is you have these minors who get their
37:41
videos uploaded, these children, and they have no recourse and
37:45
they're victimized again and again.
37:46
So help us walk us through what Mike Farley is saying, how
37:51
Pornhub sees their loophole here to a lot basically profit off of
37:57
kid children being exploited on their site.
38:00
Yeah. So at the time of this video,
38:03
this video is recorded last year in 2023.
38:07
And at the time to upload a video to Pornhub, you have to
38:12
verify your identity within the portal.
38:18
And so that included submitting a government issued ID.
38:21
And what Mike here is saying is there is a loophole where as an
38:26
uploader, when their content moderation team is reviewing
38:31
these uploads, there's no way for them to match a face on your
38:35
ID to your body in a pornographic video since many of
38:40
the pornographic videos on the platform never show a face.
38:45
He says this is very common. So basically, it's just a bunch
38:49
of guesswork. And later in the video, he goes,
38:54
I asked him, you know, do rapists use this loophole, Do
38:58
traffickers use this loophole? And he says, yes, of course, to
39:02
make money, of course. So there are people out there
39:07
that they are aware of exploiting these this loophole,
39:11
uploading an ID and just uploading random pornographic
39:15
videos that contain child abuse content to make money.
39:22
So he says, if I remember correctly in the video, he at
39:26
one point says, you know, he, I don't know if he's trying to be
39:29
like the good guy, but he's basically like, he elevated this
39:32
to his bosses. And what did what did he say
39:35
happened? Yeah.
39:36
So he was very aware of this loophole and didn't want to go
39:41
down for it. Should the public find out about
39:45
it or the government find out about it?
39:47
So he sat down and recorded a meeting with the Cielo, the
39:51
chief legal officer, and the CPO, the chief product officer.
39:56
He secretly recorded it. I believe it was just an open OK
39:59
that's good just because he wanted an on the record that he
40:04
addressed this and it's not his fault if it goes unaddressed.
40:08
And in his words, they told him to F off and shut up.
40:14
So they knowingly are operating with this loophole, people
40:19
exploiting it, uploading all sorts of illegal videos, child
40:24
abuse content and they're they didn't want to do anything about
40:29
it because it would cut into their profits.
40:32
I mean, it's hard to, I kind of, I mean, I know the answer you're
40:36
going to have to this question, but I want to ask it anyways,
40:38
which is, you know, Pornhub. Pornhub is such a sleazy
40:42
company. They're profiting off of
40:44
objectification of human beings, period.
40:46
Sexual objectification. Were you surprised when one of
40:51
their top staffers admit this to you?
40:53
So admits this to you so candidly on undercover camera
40:56
that there's a loophole. And yes, rapists are using the
40:59
site to exploit children. I guess I was surprised at the
41:05
specificity in which he explained it.
41:07
I wasn't, I hadn't really thought about this loophole or
41:11
the possibility of this specific loophole before.
41:13
So I guess you could say in a way, I was pleasantly surprised
41:18
about the specificity of his explanation just because we
41:22
strongly suspected it was happening.
41:25
And so it was almost, it was a good thing that we actually got
41:29
the admission. Yeah.
41:31
So you weren't surprised that this was happening, but it's
41:34
surprising how quick he was to. Just yeah, this was our first
41:37
meeting. You sit here and we only met 2
41:39
times total so. Wow, it's not.
41:42
It's almost. I get the sense that he's almost
41:44
unburdening himself a little bit.
41:46
Yeah, I really don't think these employees are used to people
41:50
wanting to know about their work.
41:52
A few of them told me that they're used to people actually
41:55
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41:59
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That's every life.com. So what was it like?
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Because you get, you film this footage, you film, you do how
42:42
many other conversations with other staffers at Pornhub?
42:46
Oh man, I think I had. So I spoke with probably a dozen
42:53
different staffers, probably, you know, 8 or so in person
42:59
meetings with them. And then some were phone calls,
43:03
some were virtual kind of calls. And then how many, what other,
43:07
what other revelations came out of those conversations alongside
43:11
this huge bombshell of, yes, there's a loophole when it comes
43:15
to Child Exploitation content and we know about it, we don't
43:17
care. A lot.
43:18
So we got several reports of very poor content moderation,
43:24
especially when it came to the pornographic ads being uploaded
43:28
by advertisers on to Pornhub. They have their own in house ad
43:33
platform called Traffic Junkie that any advertiser can just
43:36
upload videos or images to. And one of these compliance
43:40
employees for Traffic Junkie said that one of the criteria
43:47
they used internally to determine if a girl was underage
43:50
or not was if she was wearing makeup or if she had a piercing
43:55
or if she had any type of tattoo.
43:58
Then they would say OK, she's 18 or over, pass that through and
44:02
she had a huge problem with this.
44:03
She also said they would get calls all the time from girls
44:06
saying hey this is me in an ad, I didn't consent to this, please
44:10
take this down. And she said they very well
44:14
could have some skeezy only fans manager of underage girls
44:19
advertising on the platform and they would never know.
44:22
When they get that call from a girl saying this is me and
44:25
especially if it's an underage girl, but any girl saying I
44:28
don't want this, this is done against my will, what does?
44:30
What's their policy? According to her, if you
44:34
escalate any issue, all you're going to get is lip service and
44:38
that's why she decided to quit because she didn't feel like in
44:42
good conscience she could participate in working for the
44:46
company anymore. Another admission we got from a
44:50
senior scriptwriter for a low he writes the pornographic scripts.
44:55
He said that the actors who appear to be about 15 years old,
45:02
they their ads perform the best, they do the most conversion
45:06
rates because it draws pedophiles that they can turn
45:10
into whales or big spenders, and it also draws young teens.
45:17
And another disturbing admission from him was that they
45:21
purposefully advertise gay, bi and trans pornography to
45:28
historically straight viewers in order to quote, convert them in
45:33
a marketing sense, I believe is how he meant that.
45:37
But effectually it kind of means the same thing, right?
45:40
They're they're trying to manipulate someone's sexuality.
45:43
And I think that's really predatory.
45:47
That is so dark. Yeah.
45:49
I mean, starting with the first thing you said about the 15 year
45:53
olds and the fact that this is happening and technically it's
45:59
illegal. I mean, that's the thing.
46:00
Thank God some pornography is illegal.
46:03
Pornography, pornographic expectation of children, that's
46:07
illegal today. But regardless of that fact,
46:10
child sexual abuse material is proliferating online.
46:13
It's yeah, every year it increases.
46:16
And it's even being normalized in an unfortunately technically
46:20
legal way if you have, you know, a 20 year old actor who looks
46:25
super, super young. And so they craft these
46:30
situations in the pornographic video where it appears to be
46:34
like an older woman with this young boy.
46:39
And they do that purposefully because it draws a huge
46:41
audience. And it's technically legal, but
46:44
I think it's really damaging because it normalizes these
46:47
predatory situations. So how many videos have you
46:50
released total now exposing Pornhub?
46:52
We've released a total of 7 full length undercover videos.
46:57
We did another mini release, so technically 8.
47:01
The mini release was kind of interesting.
47:03
That same senior scriptwriter tells me that a LO hires
47:08
psychologists just to satisfy like banks and credit cards as
47:15
almost it's just like performative.
47:18
They say, you know, oh, this is ethical, this is unethical and
47:23
the banks and credit cards have someone to point to just so they
47:26
have an excuse to still do business with a LO.
47:30
And it's really hypocritical because they're not allowed to
47:34
have any type of depiction of alcohol in any of the
47:37
pornographic videos, even a glass of wine.
47:39
It's a huge no no. They can't even they can't do
47:42
that. What about?
47:42
Smoking. I don't know about smoking, but
47:47
you know, the teen category, the incest category are some of the
47:51
most popular on the platform. So how do you justify the fact
47:55
that alcohol is not ethical but teen and incest is?
48:01
That just doesn't make any sense.
48:03
It's insane. So when you first put out these
48:07
videos, what was the response and when did you first release?
48:12
We began releasing in September of 2023, just last year.
48:18
And initially, of course, Pornhub's lawyers are very angry
48:22
with us. We've been threatened legally
48:25
several times by them, but as far as the public reaction, you
48:32
know, 26 state attorneys general have issued a joint letter to a
48:36
Low, the parent company of Pornhub, demanding changes.
48:40
What changes are they demanding? They want transparency about the
48:43
loophole addressed in in the first video release, but
48:48
unfortunately Pornhub never responded.
48:50
They just completely disregarded US state Attorneys General,
48:54
which is mind blowing to me. So we need to have follow
48:58
through on that and that's what we intend to work on.
49:02
In our undercover videos have been cited as evidence in class
49:06
action suits against a low further involvement in sex
49:10
trafficking. So hopefully our videos will
49:14
help these victims get the justice that they deserve.
49:19
It's crazy and So what do you think is the the solution here?
49:23
Because like you said, Pornhub didn't even respond to the
49:27
letters from the attorneys general.
49:29
I'm not surprised by that, by the way, we've, I think we've
49:31
generated things like that in the past with parenthood.
49:33
And they're just like, well, if you can't directly touch us,
49:36
we're going to keep doing what we're going to do.
49:38
So they operate with this impunity because they're not
49:41
being, you know, they're not being held accountable.
49:43
What What is the pathway legally to hold Pornhub accountable for
49:48
this? Well, you know.
49:50
And to shut them down, quite frankly, they need to be shut
49:52
down. Yeah, there is a very recent
49:54
criminal case out of the Eastern District of New York and Pornhub
49:59
did admit to profiting off of sex trafficking, but
50:02
unfortunately they received a slap on the wrist.
50:06
They got put on like a three-year probationary period
50:09
where if any evidence of further sex trafficking on their
50:13
platform is found, then their criminal charges have to be
50:17
permanent. So at the end of these three
50:20
years, if nothing's found, their charges will be dropped.
50:24
So Pornhub is scared. They're they are actually
50:28
sweating right now. We see that because of what
50:31
they're doing lately. So just last week they revised
50:34
their upload policy to Pornhub. So now each participant in a
50:39
video has to be verified for age and consent.
50:44
How? How does one do that?
50:46
They got a loophole right? So as far as I know it's the ID
50:52
and like written consent, so that still doesn't address the
50:55
loophole in an art. Meeting you have to upload a
50:58
paper of them. Right.
50:59
I believe so, yeah. How do they know it was written
51:02
by the person and the ID? And how?
51:03
It doesn't make sense to me. And it also doesn't apply
51:07
retroactively, so it's only to new videos.
51:10
It doesn't apply to their ad platform.
51:12
So the pornographic ads, they don't require any verification
51:18
of identity of age of anyone in a pornographic video.
51:22
I posed as an advertiser and called into their ad platform
51:26
and said I have all these videos of young girls, they look like
51:31
they could be underage. What should I do?
51:34
And they said go ahead and upload them anyway.
51:37
We decide whether someone's underage or not, and if we do
51:42
deem them to be underage, we'll just let you know when we're not
51:46
going to hurt your account. And we also do not report to law
51:49
enforcement. Not right there.
51:53
I mean, there are there are reporting laws, you know,
51:55
typically they're guardian relationships or they're like,
51:58
you know, a nurse or they're someone who can have contact
52:01
with a child and who would be aware or made aware of child
52:06
sexual abuse taking place. And then there it triggers a
52:07
report. I mean, obviously if somebody,
52:11
you know, is getting uploads like at Pornhub and they can see
52:15
that they're ready, children involved, you think that they
52:18
should be required to report that?
52:21
That would be a. That would be a bright red flag.
52:24
Yeah, you would think so. There's so many weird Gray areas
52:30
I don't really understand. I think there's a reason why
52:34
Pornhub is not based in the US They're based in Canada and they
52:37
operate offices in like Eastern Europe as well.
52:41
So I I, I, I hope there are black and white laws where they
52:48
could easily be charged and held accountable, but so far it
52:51
really doesn't seem like there are.
52:54
Do you think porn should be banned?
52:57
In a better world, porn wouldn't exist, but I think what's
53:02
realistic to say is that changing cultural paradigms
53:06
surrounding porn porn would be the most effective and realistic
53:10
solution to accurate problems. But do you think Pornhub should
53:15
be banned? Yes, continuing to operate,
53:18
absolutely. Pornhub should be criminally
53:20
charged and their executives should be behind bars, period.
53:25
They have operated too long illegally hosting abuse content
53:30
and not only of children. We have revenge porn, we have
53:33
voyeurism, we have date rapes being monetized and there's no
53:41
concern. I mean, Mike Farley said on
53:43
tape, you know, there was a time when we would go through videos
53:48
and the only videos we would reject were were someone was
53:51
literally getting murdered. They just let everything
53:55
through. They've operated too long.
53:57
They shouldn't be able to be a legitimate business.
54:02
And Pornhub recently stopped operating in I think Utah.
54:07
Yes, Explain what's happening there for folks.
54:10
Yeah. So across the US, in a bunch of
54:12
different states, these states are passing ID verification
54:16
laws. We're now if you want to log on
54:19
to a site like Pornhub to be a user, you have to verify your
54:22
age by putting in an ID. And at first, I think the first
54:28
state was Louisiana. And so Pornhub complied with
54:32
Louisiana's ID law, and they reported an 80% drop in traffic
54:37
to this site when people have to verify their age.
54:40
Wow. So next was Utah and Pornhub
54:44
just decided to essentially strike and say, well, we're
54:47
going to make ourselves unavailable for Utah users.
54:51
And we have more and more states passing these laws.
54:53
I think we have Virginia, North Carolina, we have Texas, several
54:59
more states. And each time Pornhub is said,
55:03
well then we're going to be unavailable in your state
55:06
because this is detrimental to our business having to verify
55:09
age. And to clarify, this is verify
55:12
age for people to just use to just watch to consume
55:15
pornography as opposed to the loophole process of yeah you
55:20
need an ID to upload pornography but it could be the pornography
55:23
of someone else and it's your ID.
55:24
Yeah. So these ID laws are for viewers
55:27
specifically? Yeah.
55:28
So it's a lot of underage viewers that.
55:30
Many underage viewers and in the undercover videos, there is one
55:36
video about viewers of pornography, children as
55:39
viewers. And we have employees who
55:41
express encouragement for children as young as 12 to watch
55:45
pornography, saying they could find their kink on a site like
55:49
men.com, which is an A low owned site.
55:52
A 12 year old could benefit from watching trans angels if they're
55:56
confused or want to explore their sexuality.
55:59
So many of these employees don't even care if children watch the
56:02
site. And that is apparent because
56:06
when you go on the site, their age verification is you check a
56:09
box that says I'm 18. I mean, it's sexual abuse to
56:13
expose a minor to porn. Is 100% yeah sexual abuse to
56:17
expose a minor to porn? OK, what's what's it been like
56:21
for you, Arden? You're on the road a lot and
56:24
it's, again, these videos have reached a lot of people.
56:27
They've inspired action, which is awesome.
56:29
Congratulations on that. I know you're just getting
56:31
started. What's life been like for you
56:34
the last few months? Really unexpected and crazy, but
56:39
really good. I I was expecting me becoming
56:45
public and talking about this to be a big sacrifice and the way
56:49
it has right? But something I didn't realize
56:52
was that I'd be getting such a wonderful community and so many
56:57
people who care about these issues like you.
57:01
And so it's been overwhelmingly positive, to be honest.
57:06
Just busy but in a good. Way it's awesome.
57:09
And then what's next for you and Sound Investigations and Eric?
57:12
Yeah, well, we hope to expand. We are still really small.
57:16
It's just us 2. Eric has completely self funded
57:21
this project, so we will be looking for people who want to
57:25
support us to be able to keep going.
57:28
We really want to do a lot of follow through with these
57:32
attorneys general and some lawmakers who expressed interest
57:36
in holding Pornhub accountable. But it takes so much time and
57:38
follow through that we want to be able to focus on that for a
57:41
bit, yeah. And one last thing on the law,
57:44
because I do think, you know, you said earlier they should be
57:47
shut down. You know this is all criminal.
57:50
What additional law or laws need to be passed?
57:54
Yeah. For this to fix not just
57:57
loopholes, but to really make sure justice happens and and
58:01
especially young young children are protected.
58:04
Yeah, Section 230 must be amended.
58:07
Section 230 essentially grants big tech platforms immunity from
58:12
being sued for hosting content on their site.
58:16
So Pornhub, their parent company a LO has kind of grouped
58:20
themselves in in in calling themselves a tech platform
58:24
rather than part of the adult industry, right.
58:27
And are claiming immunity under section 2:30.
58:30
So I really think we need, we need the ability to be able to
58:37
at least pursue charges if a site like Pornhub is hosting
58:44
underage content. It takes so much, it takes a big
58:47
class action to be able to do that now.
58:50
And I think if individual victims are able to pursue
58:54
justice against a site like Pornhub, then that would really
58:58
help. You might, you might end up
59:01
getting that accomplished. That's been talked about now.
59:04
First a few years and yeah, the fact that they operate Facebook
59:09
and these other platforms with impunity.
59:12
They get to put up whatever content and by the way, censor
59:15
the content. That's the part that they claim
59:17
they're a publisher and under 230, they can operate with
59:20
protections of not being liable for anything on their sites.
59:22
But then they do call balls and strikes about the content that
59:26
people see through the algorithm or they censor content like
59:29
pro-life content on Pinterest, you know, as Eric originally
59:32
found. And they can't have it both
59:35
ways. Right.
59:36
And I'm sure you face this a lot, but all the the major tech
59:40
platforms are heavily censoring our content and the.
59:44
Content of sound investigation. Yeah, of sound investigation.
59:47
So tell me, what does that look like?
59:48
I'm currently shadow banned across pretty much every
59:51
platform. People have to type in my full
59:54
handle to even find my page. I was demonetized on Twitter
59:59
just without notice, just randomly so.
1:00:01
Tag Elon. I know I don't know what it is.
1:00:06
It's just, it's, I guess it's very controversial, but yet we
1:00:10
have accounts on Twitter literally posting pornography
1:00:14
who I'm sure are making money from it.
1:00:16
So or else why would they do it, right?
1:00:19
So the fact that I'm trying to raise awareness about this stuff
1:00:24
and I'm demonetised and there's pornographic, you know, content
1:00:28
on Twitter. It's just kind of a clown world
1:00:33
situation. Absolutely.
1:00:35
OK. How can people follow you on
1:00:37
your shadow plan platforms and then also not just follow you
1:00:40
there, but how can they support sound investigations?
1:00:43
Yeah, so you can keep doing this very important work.
1:00:45
So they can go to soundinvestigations.com/donate
1:00:49
to support us and everything helps and we so appreciate it
1:00:53
because we want to be able to continue.
1:00:56
And on Twitter, I would say it's probably my most active
1:00:59
platform. I am Arden under score, a young
1:01:03
under score. I'm the same on Instagram.
1:01:07
And then you'll see if you go to my Twitter, the Sound
1:01:10
Investigations Twitter page is in my bio, so they can follow
1:01:12
there as well. Awesome, and I hope people also
1:01:15
subscribe to your YouTube channel.
1:01:17
Thank you. You guys put stuff up there
1:01:19
regularly and it's first to release on there, right?
1:01:21
Yeah, we post on YouTube sound investigations, so yeah.
1:01:27
Awesome. Well, Arden, you're doing
1:01:28
amazing work. Thank you.
1:01:29
I'm very, very encouraged by what you're doing and admire it.
1:01:33
Keep it up. We're cheering for you.
1:01:35
And, you know, say hello to Eric, tell him he's amazing and
1:01:39
keep it up. Thank you so much, Lila.
1:01:41
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