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Rushion interviews Dyana Williams, a regular on TV One's UNSUNG and referred to as "The Mother of Black Music Month." Dyana helped establish June, Black Music Month. · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: Here we go. This is Rashan McDonald had to grab
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Speaker 1: we're about to talk about some great music. I know,
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Speaker 1: I know, I know, but I'm about to mention some
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Speaker 1: song gonna bring back some memories today because next month
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Speaker 1: is that's June is a Black music month, and we're
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Speaker 1: at eighteen, there was no guarantee that you would live forever.
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Speaker 1: So why should you not have the same mentality when
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Speaker 1: could think about was my future. But I settled down,
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Speaker 1: of that and don't let nobody stop you from achieving.
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Speaker 1: I guess she's that person. One of my favorite people
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Speaker 1: I interview on my shows. You know sometimes on NPR
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Speaker 1: you can't like promote or say you like something, but
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Speaker 1: I gotta say I like her. She's one of my
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Speaker 1: favorite people. My guess it's Deana Williams. She's the broadcaster, celebrity, strategist, curator,
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Speaker 1: live event producer, celebrating fifty years in the music, broadcasting
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Speaker 1: and entertainment industry. Professional. That's what she is. She's the
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Speaker 1: person that's been there. Because it's really interesting and we're
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Speaker 1: going to talk about this. We talk about longevity because
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Speaker 1: what you've achieved, and you wonder if you can continue
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Speaker 1: to achieve that some of the archives are really now
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Speaker 1: in the library of Congress co founder. Check this out,
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Speaker 1: Black Music One. It's on the National Museum of African
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Speaker 1: American Music and Nashville Board. A regular TV wants Unsung
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Speaker 1: and is referred to as the mother of Black Music One.
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Speaker 1: She's established and she's going to get a big proclamation
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Speaker 1: in the city of Philadelphia. Please welcome the one and
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Speaker 3: my daughter went to she went she attended school there,
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Speaker 1: The oh David Lynton, he's sitting in here. Okay, he's
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Speaker 1: my boy. You know, he got me on over here
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Speaker 1: boy too, because you know, everybody has a dream, and
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Speaker 1: I was talking about that earlier. But when you say, like,
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Speaker 1: I remember when I when out, I left IBM, and
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Speaker 1: I wanted to pursue a career as a standing comedian.
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Speaker 1: I just wanted to do it. You know, I was
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Speaker 1: just I was twenty six years old at the tem
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Speaker 1: cauld't nobody tell me nothing, because I felt that I
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Speaker 1: had to do it. And a lot of people said,
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Speaker 1: don't do it. You're leaving a great job like IBM.
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Speaker 1: And then thirty came, and then forty came. And I
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Speaker 1: really tell you this to be honest, that it wasn't
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Speaker 1: into my forties did I really realized that I had
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Speaker 1: a gift, that I had the ability to do things
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Speaker 1: that everybody else wanted to do. And people were starting
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Speaker 1: to come to me for advice and starting to understand
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Speaker 1: that I had a different way I looked at things
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Speaker 1: when it came to marketing and branding. When I did
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Speaker 1: this show, bringing people like you on the show. Let's
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Speaker 1: talk about that journey in the early years when you
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Speaker 1: were just a voice, but you were an incredible voice.
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Speaker 1: And when did you realize that you were seeing things
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Speaker 1: and giving advice to people that was a little bit
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Speaker 1: different than they were getting anyplace else.
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Speaker 3: Well, salute to you again for helping craft the careers
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Speaker 3: of many super successful individuals. I wish i'd met you
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Speaker 3: younger in life difference. But the person who inspired me
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Speaker 3: there were two people other than my parents, my mother
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Speaker 3: Nancy Newman and my father George Williams. And other than
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Speaker 3: my parents and my grandparents, my family, my foundation, it
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Speaker 3: was my ex Kenny Gamble and my best friend Kathy Hughes,
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Speaker 3: who was the founder of everything with the one in It,
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Speaker 3: Urban one TV, the Dollar one, everything. And so those
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Speaker 3: are the individuals that helped shape me. But a good
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Speaker 3: friend of mine, Hubert Law said to me when I
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Speaker 3: was in college. He says, you have a great voice.
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Speaker 3: You should do radio. So he was one of my
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Speaker 3: you know, he was one of my early advocates. So
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Speaker 3: I would give credit to those individuals. And a gentleman
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Speaker 3: by the name of Van j And lastly, the person
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Speaker 3: who gave me my first job with health benefits, his
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Speaker 3: name Bob Nighthawk Terry, and he saw the movie Talk
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Speaker 3: to Me. He was in the movie with P. D. Green.
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Speaker 3: Nighthauw Terry was the gentleman who came in with the dogs.
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Speaker 3: That was my former boss who gave me my first
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Speaker 3: job in radio.
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Speaker 1: Well know, not today. You know you got to have
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Speaker 1: that boys back in the day. You have to talk
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Speaker 1: certain way, got to have a voice. And as about personality,
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Speaker 1: you really get really don't have to talk like you talk?
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Speaker 1: Are the way everybody to have the articulate every word
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Speaker 1: came I clear, But now everybody throw out the word authentic,
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Speaker 1: you know, organic, relatable. How is that? How have you
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Speaker 1: seen that? Has that changed the business?
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Speaker 3: You know? Back I come from the era of radio personalities,
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Speaker 3: where people who are very vibrant personalities like Frankie Crocker, Yes,
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Speaker 3: By Higginson, who is the woman who inspired me, who
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Speaker 3: was also on the air at WBLS in New York
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Speaker 3: on one O seven point five. Uh. You know it
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Speaker 3: kind of got wortered down at a certain point. But
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Speaker 3: I think radio personalities we come for that tradition. You know,
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Speaker 3: the great Jocko Henderson and Georgie Woods, the guy with
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Speaker 3: the goods. These are legendary broadcasts. Mary Mason Louise Williams Bishop.
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Speaker 3: That's that's what I come from. And while I am
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Speaker 3: currently celebrating my fiftieth anniversary, I've seen all kind of
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Speaker 3: changes in radio broadcasting. But at the end of the day,
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Speaker 3: it's personalities. People want to hear a voice that they trust,
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Speaker 3: they can rely upon, that they can set their watch.
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Speaker 3: Oh wait, we don't set our watches anymore, but you
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Speaker 3: know what I mean. They want they want that familiarity,
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Speaker 3: they want somebody who feels like family. And that's the
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Speaker 3: style of radio that I've always engaged. And even though
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Speaker 3: now I'm doing talk radio, I've done music radio my
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Speaker 3: entire career. But I'm a guest commentator on w u
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Speaker 3: r D, which is progressive black talk radio in Philadelphia,
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Speaker 3: So I get to do what you do.
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Speaker 1: What you do, well, we know the beauty of you know,
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Speaker 1: because you threw out a name. You know, you throw
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Speaker 1: out a name just in my ex nite.
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Speaker 3: Which one, oh my EXX you know, Piker Rock of
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Speaker 3: my family and my very very dear friend Kenny Gamble,
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Speaker 3: who is one of the architects of the found of
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Speaker 3: Philadelphia with his partners.
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Speaker 1: Don't go past that too fast, now, you know, South
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Speaker 1: of Philadelphia. Come that music. We gotta talk about that
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Speaker 1: music loop, Okay, because you see a lot of people
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Speaker 1: don't know all they is the artists all if they
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Speaker 1: hear the singer, they don't know who the master behind,
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Speaker 1: mastermind behind, I miss you.
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Speaker 3: You know Kenny Gamble, Leon Hoff, the great Drummer, Young Love,
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Speaker 3: the Ojs, Kenny Gamble again and Leon Hull ain't no
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Speaker 3: stopping us now, Big Fadin and Whitehead, Gin and John
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Speaker 3: great producers and songwriters.
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Speaker 1: That's just a few, y'all. Because of the fact that
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Speaker 1: you know, the soul trained thing.
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Speaker 3: The soul Trained theme with Don Cornelius was done by
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Speaker 3: Gambling Huff and it featured the three degrees and mss
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Speaker 3: turn off the lights, my my borrow a cup of sugar,
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Speaker 3: neighbor and my best friend until he made his transition.
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Speaker 3: Theodore pender Grass, Teddy Pendergrass Girl.
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Speaker 1: That was my song back in the day, boy, turn
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Speaker 1: off get me excited because now going back to my
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Speaker 1: younger days, when you know when when when a slow
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Speaker 1: song meant something back in the club dates, Yeah, you know,
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Speaker 1: you look across the you look across the floor and
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Speaker 1: made eye contact. That's all you needed. If she looked
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Speaker 1: your way, you looked that way, and you just did
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Speaker 1: the head now, the head up or the head to
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Speaker 1: the right of the head up, and she went cool.
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Speaker 1: Then y'all made our way to the floor and.
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Speaker 3: Exactly exactly, and you know what, Sad Jones, mel Lewis,
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Speaker 3: Gambling Huff died two albums. I believe with them, the
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Speaker 3: great Dexter Wanzelle, who was coming from a jazz tradition
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Speaker 3: as well. So incredible musicians. They called from the Philadelphia
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Speaker 3: Orchestra string layers and then they had the fiercest rhythm section.
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Speaker 3: I love the music of the sound of Philadelphia, Philadelphia.
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Speaker 1: International, you know the music, but it had a message
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Speaker 1: in it too a lot of times, you know, like
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Speaker 1: wake up everybody, they're sleeping in.
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Speaker 3: Harold Melvin and the Blue Notes again with Teddy Pendergrass.
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Speaker 1: Family Reunion for the Old James, the reunion.
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Speaker 3: I got to have. And you know what, how about
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Speaker 3: I always loved my mama. Dambling huffros that one as well,
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Speaker 3: and I always loved my mama come on, my favorite girl.
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Speaker 1: Well, you know the thing the thing about it is
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Speaker 1: that are we are now this generational Okay? You know
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Speaker 1: you had pop but then you had rock and then
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Speaker 1: you had the mothership landed. You know, it landed. You
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Speaker 1: know it landed. When I was playing basketball in the
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Speaker 1: early seventies, when the when the when the pea fonk came,
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Speaker 1: make mother funk the phone come on now. But nobody
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Speaker 1: was stopping them boys in Philadelphia.
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Speaker 2: No, not at all.
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Speaker 3: And they were inspired. I thought, I heard you say,
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Speaker 3: Barry Gordy. Barry Gordy and Motowns and Detroit set the
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Speaker 3: standard for Gamble and Huff. They actually flew out. Gamble's
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Speaker 3: first airplane ride was to Detroit to visit Motown, where
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Speaker 3: they were interested in speaking to them to be songwriters
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Speaker 3: producers at Motown. And when Gamble and Huff saw what
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Speaker 3: Barry Gordy had done. And if you've ever been to
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Speaker 3: the studio, which I'm sure you have, absolutely in a house,
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Speaker 3: it's small, no way, all that great, big music from
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Speaker 3: all those artists Stevie Wonder, Martha Reeves and the Bandelas,
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Speaker 3: Mary Wilson, Diana Ross and the Supremes, the Temptations, you're.
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Speaker 1: Right there, you know, because sometimes we be in the mix,
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Speaker 1: and so you know, it's like it's like you just
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Speaker 1: be rolling through it and you don't realize you understand
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Speaker 1: what's happening, but you don't really appreciate it because it's
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Speaker 1: just happening. And you enjoyed a moment because greatness was
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Speaker 1: all around you from those sounds and artists. And what
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Speaker 1: was your head at at that moment?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, very great question. I often reflect back to it.
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Speaker 3: I knew that great things were happening. I was very
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Speaker 3: cognizant of the fact that I was around tremendously talented people,
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Speaker 3: not just my man, but the people that he signed
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Speaker 3: to the roster. Junie carn is godmother to our children.
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Speaker 3: Gamble and I had three children, so I was I
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Speaker 3: was aware, and I was on the radio. So I
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Speaker 3: was on the air the first at WBLS. Then I
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Speaker 3: went into television for a minute. Then I came back
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Speaker 3: to Philly and I was on w DAS one oh
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Speaker 3: five point three when it is a monster heritage station
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Speaker 3: absolutely in Philadelphia, and that's the station where you know
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Speaker 3: great like for instance, there's a woman named Patty Jackson.
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Speaker 1: She has been on the air full Letdeana see, that's
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Speaker 1: where you bring friends on because you got to remind
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Speaker 1: them of the blessings they've given us. If you've watched
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Speaker 1: TV ones on song, you've seen her, you have seen
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Speaker 1: Deanna Williams. You already heard all this music. So when
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Speaker 1: you try to go back and get one of those
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Speaker 1: those greats, they gonna roll her end and go queen
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Speaker 1: start talking. Give give us the truth, because you know
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Speaker 1: the truth because you saw it all You saw. Not
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Speaker 1: only you saw it, you played it, you participated. You
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Speaker 1: were at the concerts, used at the events where the
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Speaker 1: music was revolutionizing the sound, but it was all coming
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Speaker 1: off the East coast, and then you had Detroit, then
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Speaker 1: you had the West Coast, those sounds and that music.
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Speaker 1: And I be remiss because I want you to go
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Speaker 1: back and talk about my girl, Patty Jackson, because I cannot.
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Speaker 1: She's done so much for my career. She's done so
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Speaker 1: much as you've done for my career being able to
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Speaker 1: give me a voice and give them the talents that
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Speaker 1: I've worked with a voice. Because people don't understand black
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Speaker 1: radio is a little bit different in our community because
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Speaker 1: black radio tells us how to vote. Black radio tell
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Speaker 1: us where to go, tell us about the weather, tell
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Speaker 1: us how to get up in the morning, tell us
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Speaker 1: when to go to bed, tell us makes us feel
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Speaker 1: good about our said. It makes us party that I
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Speaker 1: says remind us of respect. Black radio is powerful and
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Speaker 1: it should never go away because of the fact it's
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Speaker 1: an emotional tool to our future.
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Speaker 3: Do you agree exactly? I completely totally agree. Black radio
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Speaker 3: is the clarion voices of our community and it has
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Speaker 3: been and will continue to be as long as humanity exists.
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Speaker 3: And prior to the break, what I was saying about
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Speaker 3: Patti Jackson is that she has been on the air
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Speaker 3: in the same time slot for thirty years. Unheard of, white, purple,
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Speaker 3: polka dot orange. She is a voice in the community
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Speaker 3: and as you reference my career celebrating fifty years, Patti
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Speaker 3: Jackson and I are part of a group called the
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Speaker 3: Inaugural thirty thirty Black women broadcasters from all over the country.
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Speaker 3: Our archives last Friday were installed into the Library of Congress.
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Speaker 3: We started the morning out at the White House with
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Speaker 3: Steve Benjamin and you know the new Press Secretary, well,
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Speaker 3: she's a year in her position, Carine Jean Pierre and
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Speaker 3: Erica who's in charge of African American media, Erica Lowe.
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Speaker 3: It was incredible, but shout out to all those women
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Speaker 3: for their illustrious careers and being voices on the regular
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Speaker 3: in our community. As you said, Rashaan, where do you
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Speaker 3: go vote? Who's coming to town? What place did you need? What?
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Speaker 3: You know? It's voting, it's time to register, where to go,
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Speaker 3: where to get help, where to get social services? Where
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Speaker 3: who's hiring? Job theres That's what we do. We do
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Speaker 3: more than just play feel good music. We are the
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Speaker 3: voices in our community to alert, to inspire, to inform.
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Speaker 1: We know it was really interesting. Like I'm from Houston, Texas.
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Speaker 1: I can remember or stationed down there called Magic one
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Speaker 1: h two. I can tell you right now today the
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Speaker 1: very first song that that station played in nineteen seventy
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Speaker 1: seven when it came on with to get Talk on
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Speaker 1: Johnny Guitar Watson.
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Speaker 3: So one do you remember real Mother?
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Speaker 1: For you?
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Speaker 3: Oh? Yes?
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Speaker 1: And you know. And so that's how powerful music is
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Speaker 1: because it can lock you into an emotion. It can
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Speaker 1: also inspire you to be great. Now when you talk
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Speaker 1: about black music, when I cannot get off this air
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Speaker 1: is talk. Let people hear the story of how that
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Speaker 1: came about, how you very instrumental alone with mister Gamble
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Speaker 1: and coming about tell us about how black music Mark
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Speaker 1: came about and now it is recognized every June.
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Speaker 3: Well credit goes to Kenny Gamble. Again, we were a
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Speaker 3: couple at the time, so obviously as a couple we
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Speaker 3: worked together on everything, including the children. But Gamble went
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Speaker 3: to Nashville and he saw what the Country Music Association
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Speaker 3: was doing with their unity, carving out a region calling
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Speaker 3: it Music City, being very smart about the economics of
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Speaker 3: the creativity, and he said, we need to do that
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Speaker 3: in the black music industry. And so he came back
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Speaker 3: under the offices of another organization that he established called
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Speaker 3: the Black Music Association. June Black Music Month was born
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Speaker 3: and Clarence avonz who's known to many in the industry
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Speaker 3: and outside as the Godfather, called the White House as
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Speaker 3: President Carter's administration to host an event at the White
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Speaker 3: House for the Black music industry. And it was a
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Speaker 3: little bit of everybody. Billy Eckstein was there, Chuck Berry,
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Speaker 3: Evelyn Champagne, King, MFSB Dexter, Wanzell, Andre Crouch, They all
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Speaker 3: performed and in the audience was Barry White, Gloge Robert Gordie,
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Speaker 3: just Frankie Crocker, myself, Dabele and I you know. It
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Speaker 3: was my first time going to the White House. So
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Speaker 3: June seventh, nineteen seventy nine, Jimmy Carter declared June Black
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Speaker 3: Music Month, and that was forty four years ago, and
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Speaker 3: we've been celebrating ever since. Myself as well as DJ
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Speaker 3: ed Wright, worked Withamble for the further establishment of June
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Speaker 3: Black Music Month. And in two thousand, I went to
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Speaker 3: President Clinton, I went to Congress, I got legislation passed
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Speaker 3: a bill called the Black Music Month Bill, acknowledging the
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Speaker 3: multi billion dollar industry that black music is all genres.
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Speaker 3: With Sean, you know, it's not just it's all genres,
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Speaker 3: but the number one genre in the world right now
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Speaker 3: is hip hop music as we celebrate fifty years of
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Speaker 3: hip hop. So that was the origin Gamble, ed Wright
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Speaker 3: and myself carving out a month for us to highlight.
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Speaker 3: That doesn't mean that July first, we don't celebrate black music.
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Speaker 3: It's the three six ' five celebration. But June is
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Speaker 3: a concentrated period of time for us to elevate and celebrate.
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Speaker 1: Now, now this is amazing when I hear all this conversation,
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Speaker 1: because you know, you can say, you know, hip hop
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Speaker 1: is the number one stream music but guess what he's
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Speaker 1: sampling from.
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Speaker 3: Often from R and B in jazz, no question about that.
21:04
Speaker 3: And tribe call quest with a Q tip. They definitely
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Speaker 3: borrowed liberally sampling from jazz and R and D.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely Now the National Museum of African American African American
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Speaker 1: Music in Nashville, Now, what is that museum in Nashville.
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Speaker 3: The museum is in Nashville because it became a partnership
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Speaker 3: between the public and private sector and they raised, we raised,
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Speaker 3: I'm on the board, hundreds millions of dollars necessary to
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Speaker 3: build the museum. So people overlook and I didn't know
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Speaker 3: this either, Rashaan, that Nashville a rich tradition and gospel
21:46
Speaker 3: as well as jazz. Jimmy Hendricks was there in the
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Speaker 3: late sixties. Jimmy Jimmy Hendricks was living in Nashville. So
21:54
Speaker 3: and country music. I know some people want to dispute this,
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Speaker 3: but the reality it came from black people. White people
22:01
Speaker 3: developed their own style of country music. But country music
22:05
Speaker 3: and black folks and the blues and gospels always in Nashville.
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Speaker 3: And the biggest ambassadors around the world in the eighteen
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Speaker 3: hundreds were the Fifth Jubilee Singers and people overlook that
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Speaker 3: as well.
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Speaker 1: Well, you know that a lot of people forget all that,
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Speaker 1: you know, the Tennessee, Alabama. You know, if you look
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Speaker 1: at you know, the whole when you look at the
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Speaker 1: Aretha Franklin, her story when she was going down to Alabama,
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Speaker 1: you know, muscle shows, that's what she was going down
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Speaker 1: that she was going all the way down there to
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Speaker 1: get the best musicians and with some white boys.
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Speaker 3: And absolutely local musicians. And hey, all those early Aretha
22:45
Speaker 3: Franklin songs that we loved were backed a lot of
22:48
Speaker 3: white boys and black people too. Bernard Party was a
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Speaker 3: great drummery.
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Speaker 1: I wonder why she's an on song all the time.
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Speaker 1: It's like, I just I'd actually like to just shut
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Speaker 1: up and just let us talk, because you're so elegant,
23:03
Speaker 1: first of elegant in your tone, and also the information
23:07
Speaker 1: you just throw out, you know, is like now, you know,
23:11
Speaker 1: like I said, you know, it's never too late to
23:12
Speaker 1: manage somebody. So you know, we'll talk later off there,
23:14
Speaker 1: you know, you know I should have met you earlier.
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Speaker 3: Now, sure we're connected forever. So. Nashville is the home
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Speaker 3: of the National Museum of African American Music, located on
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Speaker 3: Fifth and Broadway in the heart of downtown Nashville. One
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Speaker 3: side is the original Grande olopri the other side is
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Speaker 3: the Bridgestone Arena. So we are like in the heart
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Speaker 3: of downtown and we cover all genres and sub genres
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Speaker 3: of Black music from Phil Hollows straight through to hip
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Speaker 3: hop right now. So you gotta, you gotta come see
23:51
Speaker 3: the museum. And I encourage everyone to go to n
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Speaker 3: M a a m dot org. That's name a'am and
23:59
Speaker 3: that's the acronym of the museum, so you can peruse it.
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Speaker 3: You can see our galleries. We have seven galleries, fifty
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Speaker 3: six thousand square foot facility, a contemporary, her story and
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Speaker 3: history Museum of Music.
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Speaker 1: Congratulation. Now you've got a big proclamation coming up in
24:17
Speaker 1: Black Music Monty Wise, in Black Music Month. I wonder
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Speaker 1: why this happened in Philadelphia, but tell us about it,
24:24
Speaker 1: and you know, I will tell you this. I was
24:27
Speaker 1: honored recently at the Black Media Awards and went over there,
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Speaker 1: and you know, you don't get old when people recognize you.
24:35
Speaker 1: It doesn't get.
24:35
Speaker 3: Old in the fact that you have congratulations. You deserve it.
24:38
Speaker 1: Thank you know, a congratulations on you because of the fact,
24:41
Speaker 1: I'm just reminding everybody that you know, when people knock
24:45
Speaker 1: on your door, they call you or remind you of
24:48
Speaker 1: what you're doing now or what you've accomplished. It's truly
24:51
Speaker 1: a blessing. And for you to be honored in Philadelphia
24:56
Speaker 1: in Black music monk, tell us about it and tell us,
24:59
Speaker 1: h you expectations. Are they gonna let you talk or
25:02
Speaker 1: you gonna take their wood? You're gonna walk around, take
25:04
Speaker 1: some photos? What's going on?
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Speaker 3: Oh, that's beautiful. We're gambling. I as two of the
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Speaker 3: founders that live still in Philadelphia, are being recognized by
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Speaker 3: Philadelphia City Council on June eighth, and we are receiving
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Speaker 3: proclamation for our work as the co founders of June
25:19
Speaker 3: Black Music Month and still living. We're champions of music
25:23
Speaker 3: in Philly. I'm on the board of the Recording Academy,
25:26
Speaker 3: which is the Grammy organization. Gamble is still very active
25:30
Speaker 3: in perpetuating culture amongst black folks and others in the
25:34
Speaker 3: city of Philadelphia. So we are very excited and our
25:38
Speaker 3: children very excited about parents recognized.
25:42
Speaker 1: They just thought they just need to have a party
25:44
Speaker 1: out there, you know. Missus Me and Missus Jones be
25:48
Speaker 1: jamming the train, the sound of Philadelphia, it just be
25:52
Speaker 1: you know, did the ship a horseship of horseship of
25:55
Speaker 1: come on nine? They can just they can. It's really
25:58
Speaker 1: amazing the genius. You have put the word genius because
26:03
Speaker 1: it's something that that that I can't comprehend. My degree
26:07
Speaker 1: is in math, so I know understand logic. I understand numbers.
26:10
Speaker 1: I understand two plus two is four. But the creativity,
26:13
Speaker 1: the process of being able to manipulate sound and put
26:16
Speaker 1: together words and make those words just resonate not only
26:21
Speaker 1: years but decades later. And the fact that you were
26:25
Speaker 1: part of that is still a part of that. Being
26:27
Speaker 1: able to tell this story on my show today, I
26:30
Speaker 1: just want to thank you. I want to thank you
26:32
Speaker 1: for taking the time to come one masterclass.
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Speaker 3: Oh thank you Rashaan for everything. Like I said, what
26:37
Speaker 3: you do, you are a master.
26:39
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. But again, let me just tell you
26:42
Speaker 1: this now. You know, I'm just letting everybody know the
26:44
Speaker 1: world know. She said, I wish I'd have met you earlier,
26:46
Speaker 1: because you know, this is about the This is about
26:48
Speaker 1: the fourth time I've interviewed you, Diana, Okay, and every
26:52
Speaker 1: time we always say we're gonna get together. Remember the
26:54
Speaker 1: first time we supposed to, we were working on some
26:56
Speaker 1: TV show where we're gonna go, We're gonna be like
26:58
Speaker 1: the Master sitting over here and you know, talk to
27:01
Speaker 1: young people trying to make careers out of that went
27:03
Speaker 1: no where because guess what, we didn't talk no more.
27:06
Speaker 3: Okay, it's not too late. It's it's never too late.
27:09
Speaker 3: That's an advocate of it. It's never too late to
27:11
Speaker 3: actualize your dreams.
27:13
Speaker 1: She threw out a word that I knew nothing. I
27:15
Speaker 1: never heard, actualize because you know why I would never
27:18
Speaker 1: say that, because I will fumble through it.
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Speaker 3: Actual You wouldn't know, you wouldn't.
27:26
Speaker 1: I love the other incredible congratulations and you know, uh,
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Speaker 1: this is live this Live radio. I wanted people hear.
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Speaker 1: It's gonna get syndicated nationally through all my HBCU campuses
27:40
Speaker 1: that carry my show and podcasts. But more importantly, you
27:43
Speaker 1: are a You are an incredible person. Thank you for
27:46
Speaker 1: coming on Money Making Conversation master Class, the one that
27:50
Speaker 1: Queen she's the mother of Black music man that we
27:53
Speaker 1: celebrate every June DA.
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Speaker 3: We'll be right back with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass
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Speaker 3: with rough Shawn McDonald,