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Full Episode: Legendary Actor Bill Duke, iconic On-Air DJ Personality Dyana Williams, Chef Jernard Wells, and Rob & Jen Morris · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: next guest is a dear friend, Bill Duke. Bill Duke
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  Speaker 1: is an actor, director, and producing Hollywood. More than forty
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  Speaker 1: years of experience on screen and behind the camera. Duke
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  Speaker 1: has currently started in Steven Sarderbergh's new crime drama No
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  Speaker 1: Sudden Mood, Debating July one on HBO Max, which I
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  Speaker 1: do have that I will be watching him July one.
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  Speaker 1: His acting credits include reaching television and feature film roles
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  Speaker 1: and shows like Black Lightning, I Love More Black Lightning,
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  Speaker 1: My Crew over There, The Oval, and the critical acclaimed
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  Speaker 1: film Mandy, and other movies like High Flying Bird. He
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  Speaker 1: also known for Rosen Predator y'all remember Predator, been Predator
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  Speaker 1: Now you know I couldn't see nothing, American jigging old
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  Speaker 1: car car was come on now Action Jackson Commando who
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  Speaker 1: ministers to side board ministers board that was hard that
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  Speaker 1: bird on the Y, Get Rich or Die, Tried, X
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  Speaker 1: Men three, and many more film and TV projects. He's
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  Speaker 1: on the show to talk about the movie which we
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  Speaker 1: had just said, Southern, No Southern Move, the Duke Media Foundation,
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  Speaker 1: which I really want to talk about, and you unite
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  Speaker 1: network please working the money making conversation again. He is
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  Speaker 1: a Sigma by trade. My man, Bill, do see Bill? Dude? Bill,
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  Speaker 1: you know what mean you? We junk off air because
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  Speaker 1: I remember making side five and I always tell people
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  Speaker 1: this smell on the real I tell people I pledged
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  Speaker 1: while I was in college and it changed my life.
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  Speaker 1: It changed my life and fraternities in general. I talked
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  Speaker 1: about fraternity again. It's easy to sigmal you're gonna point
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  Speaker 1: a signal like I can't see blue and white. But
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  Speaker 1: I always tell people because a lot of people think
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  Speaker 1: that fraternity row is about party and it's about it's
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  Speaker 1: about having a good time, but really being in a
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  Speaker 1: fraternity to change my perspective gave me a clear understanding
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  Speaker 1: of the community. And I just wanted to bring that
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  Speaker 1: up because you know, we both are passionate about our
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  Speaker 1: fraternities and UH and we always are telling people the
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  Speaker 1: value of fraternity. Talk about being a member of the
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  Speaker 1: segment of your of your organization for a second. Well,
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  Speaker 1: first of all, it's a it's a very happy to
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  Speaker 1: be a part of it. And as you say, maybe
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  Speaker 1: many people think about fraternities as party. You know, people
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  Speaker 1: party from time to time, but that's not the foundation
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  Speaker 1: of it. The foundation of is a collaboration of brothers
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  Speaker 1: coming together to really discuss and take action on issues
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  Speaker 1: that we face as a culture in our community, t
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  Speaker 1: from business to whatever politics. But to him a discussion
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  Speaker 1: and we don't have to agree on everything, but we
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  Speaker 1: have mutual respect for each other and the fact that
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  Speaker 1: we can honestly say what we feel without being judged,
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  Speaker 1: you know. And that's that's those those statements that you say,
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  Speaker 1: I echo those statements, but in because of again, you know,
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  Speaker 1: gives you a sense of balance. And that's why I say,
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  Speaker 1: you know, when you want to go out in the community,
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  Speaker 1: because you know, even though you're an actor, your director,
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  Speaker 1: you produce many projects, it's about your brand, and your
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  Speaker 1: brand is entertainment, and in entertainment it does allow you
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  Speaker 1: to capture people's attention. And when you capture people attention,
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  Speaker 1: that can allow you to go and and don't shape
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  Speaker 1: their minds, shape their experiences. And I know we're want
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  Speaker 1: to show to talk about you know, the movie that
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  Speaker 1: you're starting in the July first is gonna be on
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  Speaker 1: HBO Max. But Bill, do when you talk about your
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  Speaker 1: Deep Duke Media Foundation, tell us why it's important and
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  Speaker 1: why did you started M. Well, Um, it's the same
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  Speaker 1: reason I thought of my network. M We our generations.
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  Speaker 1: I think I have an obligation to leave something for
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  Speaker 1: our children that is better than what we inherited and
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  Speaker 1: what we are in today. We are in a day
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  Speaker 1: of division. Um, from the COVID two politics to race. Um,
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  Speaker 1: what are we leaving our children? And that is the
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  Speaker 1: real question, because we have to leave them something that
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  Speaker 1: gives them hope. And so I created my foundation. We
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  Speaker 1: teach basically two things of media literacy for young people
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  Speaker 1: are coming into the business and really want to understand
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  Speaker 1: with the business of the industry really is and how
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  Speaker 1: it's changing. We went from film and television to media.
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  Speaker 1: When I when I came up, and I say this
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  Speaker 1: all the time, I had one of the first cell
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  Speaker 1: phones and I think you did too, my brother, do
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  Speaker 1: you remember the size of it? Absolute? Come on now,
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  Speaker 1: come on, am I exaggerated. I'm holding it next to
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  Speaker 1: my head. I had it used to hangs and it
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  Speaker 1: had a box with him maybe the boxing that was
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  Speaker 1: that was like our first purse. Remember it looked like
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  Speaker 1: a purse. They had a strap on shoulder you had
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  Speaker 1: to hold of day like a melo detector. Really, and
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  Speaker 1: we felt we were cool man, We felt we were
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  Speaker 1: the stuff right well. And there was no internet then,
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  Speaker 1: and so I try to talk to him about the
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  Speaker 1: evolution of things with young people from those times to
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  Speaker 1: what they have now and how they can leverage it
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  Speaker 1: to their benefit of their brands, not just being an
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  Speaker 1: actor or director, but what do you believe in? What
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  Speaker 1: is your brand? And how are you gonna fight for it?
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  Speaker 1: Learn the technology, learned the disciplines that go along with
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  Speaker 1: So we teach them financial literacy. Um, and we'll talk
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  Speaker 1: about today, I'm sure. But there are people and you
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  Speaker 1: and I both know this for a fact, that make
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  Speaker 1: a hundred million dollars or more. My brother or broke.
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  Speaker 1: How do you make a hundred million dollars and go boke?
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  Speaker 1: Because people teach you how to spend a dollar, but
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  Speaker 1: not how to use a dollar. And so we teach
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  Speaker 1: young people what is the f d I C. What
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  Speaker 1: is the Federal Reserve? What is banking? What is what
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  Speaker 1: is compound interest? What is savings? What is the debt?
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  Speaker 1: What is the stock market? What are bonds? You know?
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  Speaker 1: What are you know? Stocks? So, so the thing is
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  Speaker 1: that we give them an understanding of what money is,
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  Speaker 1: how it's used, and how you can use it to
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  Speaker 1: your own benefit, not just spend it, but use it.
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  Speaker 1: We've of the beauty of knowledge, and that's what you're
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  Speaker 1: teaching to knowledge, because without knowledge that you became either
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  Speaker 1: go backwards or your main station area. And that was
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  Speaker 1: always impacts the black community because we're always battling the
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  Speaker 1: fighting for education and we're always battling the fighting for opportunity.
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  Speaker 1: Same thing happened with the COVID nineteen when it hit.
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  Speaker 1: Who did it effect African Americans and people of color?
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  Speaker 1: Why at least educated? Uh, We're living in living conditions
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  Speaker 1: with mass transit situations and also naturally poor diety situations.
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  Speaker 1: And so then that becomes why is that important and
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  Speaker 1: why is it important to note where the bank account is.
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  Speaker 1: WI isn't know what percentages are, wisn't know if you're
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  Speaker 1: in the district, there's gonna you know, do unfair housing
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  Speaker 1: on you. You know, we continually can't get ahead because
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  Speaker 1: we're spending a different dollar. And that's what you're trying
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  Speaker 1: to say right now in this interview, correct Bill, do yes, sir.
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to get us to understand what money is,
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  Speaker 1: how we can use it to our benefit. And that's
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  Speaker 1: what we teach young people in our foundation, because if
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  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, we as a culture to do it ourselves.
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  Speaker 1: We can't depend upon others doing it for us. And
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  Speaker 1: so the men and women in our community have to
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  Speaker 1: pass on what we've learned from our mistakes so that
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  Speaker 1: our young people don't make the same mistakes. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I when you know, when I look through my life,
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  Speaker 1: you know I would say that I have made mistakes,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't know if they have mistakes or the experiences.
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  Speaker 1: Because if you learn from it, then it's not a mistake.
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  Speaker 1: But you continue to make the same mistake, then there's
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  Speaker 1: a problem because you didn't learn. And so I've advanced
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  Speaker 1: myself called politics, politics, it's called it's called being able
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  Speaker 1: to to to to negotiate the right situation. Because you
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  Speaker 1: know yourself, Bill, your your career has been tied to relationships.
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  Speaker 1: Your career has been tied to people extending their hand,
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  Speaker 1: either by surprise or one that you may sure you
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  Speaker 1: was in the position to shape. And that's what also
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  Speaker 1: in the financial word that you're teaching that you have
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  Speaker 1: to let black people understand. And now I'll talk about
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  Speaker 1: it all the time. We can talk a little Hollywood talk.
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  Speaker 1: It's like I've been in Hollywood since ninety two. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: first writing job, I did stand up comic Pride to that,
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  Speaker 1: and I just always see these white producers go on
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  Speaker 1: meetings while they were working. They have a writer job.
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  Speaker 1: They go, they're looking for another job, established the relationships.
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  Speaker 1: We don't think like that. And if they got terminated
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  Speaker 1: or the contract they get to extent, they shook their
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  Speaker 1: hands that thank you for the opportunity and said the
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  Speaker 1: traditionally African American people of color get mad, frustrated, pointing fingers. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: guess what you're blowing that relationship. The relationship is that
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  Speaker 1: things don't always go the way you play. Act like it. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: understand the value of your money. Am I wrong in
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  Speaker 1: these assessments that I'm making The build you are brilliantly
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  Speaker 1: putting it together. Um milk him X said something. He
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  Speaker 1: said two things that I learned a lot from. First
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  Speaker 1: he said, don't be playing checkers in the chess game.
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  Speaker 1: And number two, he said, no matter how good a
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  Speaker 1: football player you are, at the name of the game
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  Speaker 1: is baseball. You but to get yourself a damn back
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  Speaker 1: because your competition is gonna say you're a good You're
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  Speaker 1: a good, good, good little football player. Keep running them
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  Speaker 1: out of the basics. You're good, right, And they were,
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  Speaker 1: they were, they hitting home runs. Are back. We have
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  Speaker 1: to be again to understand the game, how it's played,
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  Speaker 1: what the rules are. We can make our own game also,
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  Speaker 1: But the fact of the matter is is that we
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  Speaker 1: have to study the knowledgeable, take the time to learn
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  Speaker 1: and understand the business. No, you're on my show here today,
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  Speaker 1: money may comes Bill, do talk about no sudden mood
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  Speaker 1: just debate in July first on HBO Max and you
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  Speaker 1: know the brilliant producer, director Stephen Salderberg. But prior to
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  Speaker 1: all going on the air, you mentioned the word bid
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  Speaker 1: with you know, like like that like did did you
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  Speaker 1: not mention that to me? Yes? I mentioned with uh
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  Speaker 1: And and they send people to Boston on trains when
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  Speaker 1: they lose, and when people play me, they learn from me.
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  Speaker 1: I teach so so you know anytime you've read I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna teach. I love my young students. Anytime, let me know.
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  Speaker 1: I'll fly it. Bill. What you're gonna do to me? Man,
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  Speaker 1: see what you ain doing? Fly me in, whoop my butt,
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  Speaker 1: and then fly me back. And if that didn't happen
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  Speaker 1: like that, because that gives you more smack brown. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna fly myself. And you see, people don't know
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  Speaker 1: Bill like I know Bill. They just see that little
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  Speaker 1: dark character. You know, sentister, you know, don't ever smile
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  Speaker 1: you walking a room. He might shoot you, knife you,
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  Speaker 1: you know, to send you to hell burn. That's the
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  Speaker 1: Bill y'all know. Or moves to TV. This the Bill
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  Speaker 1: I know right here, you know, smack talk off a
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  Speaker 1: laughing all the time. Uh go go tell me I
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  Speaker 1: come from filth war in Texas. I grew up with
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  Speaker 1: number black people. He gonna ask me off. Have you
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  Speaker 1: ever heard of Bell with just only asking me to
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  Speaker 1: I know dominoes. See, you can't insult me like that. No, mobile, dude, men,
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna have problems I'm just I'm I was just exploring,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I was asking you a question right right right,
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  Speaker 1: that he was a brother brother the brother right there
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  Speaker 1: was the brother of the brother conversation. Okay, cool, Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I just had to bring that up in the middle
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  Speaker 1: of this very important interview about our relationship. And it's
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  Speaker 1: still intact, it's still strong, and we'll keep winning. Now,
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  Speaker 1: let's it back to the movie. That's why you brought
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  Speaker 1: the dog che Anything I see with dog To, I know,
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  Speaker 1: straight up gonna be serious. Talk about the movie. Talk
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  Speaker 1: about your involvement. You work with Stephen before and other
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  Speaker 1: movie projects, so it's a relationship there. Talk about your
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  Speaker 1: involvement in this movie. First of all, I want to
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  Speaker 1: thank Stephen for putting me in the movie. And I
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  Speaker 1: worked with him, you know, the Lining, High Flying Bird,
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  Speaker 1: and this is my third film working with him and
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  Speaker 1: working with Matt Damon and Don Chetto with Blessing a Gift,
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  Speaker 1: with a great time don Cheto, as you said, serious films,
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  Speaker 1: but he is one of on set, one of the
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  Speaker 1: funniest people I've ever met in my life. He has
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  Speaker 1: an incredible sense of humor, a great heart, just great people,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and making the movie. We're in Detroit. By
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  Speaker 1: the way, I've said this before, Detroit is changing. They're
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  Speaker 1: really cleaning the city up. They're restoring the old like
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  Speaker 1: you know, the older historical buildings like churches, et cetera.
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  Speaker 1: And it was great to see the city come back
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  Speaker 1: to life and then move beyond that. It's like really
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  Speaker 1: some good things absolutely besides great food. Now we just
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  Speaker 1: said Don Cheetle and Matt David got really older than there,
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  Speaker 1: John Hamm, Brendan Fraser, David Arbor. But you see what
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  Speaker 1: their toro come on? Now, man, that's a who's who,
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  Speaker 1: a great acting a lot of people and that you
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  Speaker 1: know when you're get in the room like that build
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  Speaker 1: because you know it's all like a good basketball team.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you could you see all these good basketball players.
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  Speaker 1: You want to make sure your free throws are right,
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  Speaker 1: your job shot right, you're grabbing the rebound. How do
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  Speaker 1: you approach that when you're in the scene with talented
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  Speaker 1: other people? Does A does A I gotta get my
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  Speaker 1: act together, I gotta make sure I'm on porn? Or
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  Speaker 1: do you do? You do? You do? You talk to him?
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  Speaker 1: But prior to a scene, how does want to approach
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  Speaker 1: that if you're a young person breaking into the business, well,
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  Speaker 1: if you're a young person breaking into the business, it's
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  Speaker 1: called show business. Business part is about relationships, and so
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  Speaker 1: you have to put your you know, Wayne Dyre says,
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  Speaker 1: every day we have one of two choices. If we
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  Speaker 1: could be a host to God or a hostage to
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  Speaker 1: our ego. Uh. In this business, if your hostage to
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  Speaker 1: your egos, some people get away with it. But for
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  Speaker 1: us as a culture, I think that's a really bad idea.
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  Speaker 1: I think establishing relationships uh, and honing your craft, because
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  Speaker 1: acting and directing our craft. So it's writing or other
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  Speaker 1: people are out partying, you should be home studying, learning.
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  Speaker 1: Because when you party, you've accomplished something. It's called the celebration.
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  Speaker 1: So the thing is is that we have to really
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  Speaker 1: start taking it seriously. Today we're saying before life came
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  Speaker 1: into business, there was no internet, there was no social media.
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  Speaker 1: Young people today, Yeah, pictures are important. But if you're
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  Speaker 1: an acting class that you all should be in, and
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  Speaker 1: you're working on two or three scenes with other actors
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  Speaker 1: with the class, then what you should do is if
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  Speaker 1: you want to picture plus a reel film with your
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  Speaker 1: cell phone, the scene that you're rehearsing right, you can
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  Speaker 1: cut that scene on your computer right and edited, so
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  Speaker 1: you don't have to wait to be discovered. You can
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  Speaker 1: you can discover your Look a look at Easter Rey
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  Speaker 1: for example. She started off with, like you know, podcast
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  Speaker 1: and web series. That's well wepisodes and so did uh
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  Speaker 1: it's always sending in Philadelphia start off with webisodes. Been
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  Speaker 1: on the air for nine years. So those people they
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  Speaker 1: stopped waiting to make any sense absolutely well. I think
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  Speaker 1: that when you when you look at about a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people do wait too long. They want that that.
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  Speaker 1: I always tell people waiting on the lottery, you know
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  Speaker 1: they wait doing that opportunity. They really do. Think it
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  Speaker 1: works in Hollywood. You're gonna walk down the street and
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  Speaker 1: somebody gonna tap you on the shoulder. That is not
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  Speaker 1: high work. That is you may have heard that story,
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  Speaker 1: but that's what that's what like winning the lottery. There
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: are people who do win the tapping on the shoulder.
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  Speaker 1: M hm. You know that you know who's going to
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: tapping on the shoulder person, Tell you get out the
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  Speaker 1: way because they want to get in front of you. Yeah. Absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: and that gets tapped a lot That's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people understand about the entertainment, you know, because you know
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  Speaker 1: this for a fact, they are going in in a
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: movie like this. And let's give you a little bit
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: more background on No Sudden Mood. It's a Gritish story
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: which takes place in nineteen fifty four and the racially
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: charged Detroit. And we know Detroit has always been a
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  Speaker 1: community where where where the police has an issue, it
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: was black you know Motown was there a group of
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  Speaker 1: small time criminals who are hired on the mysterious circumstances
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  Speaker 1: to steal what they think is a simple document. They
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  Speaker 1: file up the master plan and guess what, it all
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  Speaker 1: goes as they say to hell. And you include all
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  Speaker 1: these situations. So you have black people and white people
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  Speaker 1: trying to work together in nineteen fifty four. Right there,
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: that tells you it's gonna be intense because you know,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: you deal it would doug high levels of racial prejudice
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: and also a black people just came around like white
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: people came back then. It's right, So how did what
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: role do you play in all of this? Bill Douke? Well,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: you you so brilliantly and accurately described the conditions of
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  Speaker 1: the time. Uh and um, in those days, you had
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  Speaker 1: confrontations based upon race and social positions. So if you
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  Speaker 1: were black, you had to be able, as I said before,
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  Speaker 1: to be able to play chess in the chess games.
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  Speaker 1: So if they, you know, had negotiators with them, you
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: have to negotiate. If the negotiations didn't go well and
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: they had guns, you had to have guns. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: you you could not negotiate with someone who felt you
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: were weak and unprepared. The only way you could negotiate
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  Speaker 1: with them is to look him in the eye. And
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: they understood the consequences of disrespecting you. M So I
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  Speaker 1: played the head of the black gang and we negotiate
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  Speaker 1: over some issues that I don't want to give away.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Now give a movie away, but we are negotiators and
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: they don't expect us to be that and they're surprised
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: by it, but they do negotiate with us. Now, let
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: me know when you look at movies, because we've seen
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: how covid has changed the game, and also streaming networks Netflix, Amazon,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: you know, Hulu, Disney Plus have changed the game. They
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: opened in movies that were opening the theater, opening online
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: and streaming and all they're doing the simul simulcast They simulcastically.
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  Speaker 1: They're like they they were Cruella Crewella opening in the
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  Speaker 1: theater as well as Old Disney Plus and in their
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: premium network. Have you seen a change in the quality
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: or it doesn't matter. They steer producing high quality movies
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: even for streaming as well as for the big theaters.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Some of them are high quality and some of them
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: are not. Some people are giving cameras to make movies
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: and they they've never studied directing, They've never studied writing
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: or anything because of relationship they have with a relative,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: somebody who has money. But I I I still believe
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: in people who take the time to study their discipline.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna say it's easy. It's not. But
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: you have to know, you know, you have to read books.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: You know, you have to you know, you you have
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: to be able to understand structure, not only the structure
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: of the movie, but what is character structure. You know,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: what is the beginning, middle, and end of the movie.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: What is the storyline? What is the character line? How
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: do you hook people in emotionally to what you're talking about?
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Those are crafts and skills that should be studied, you know,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: and there are books at schools you can go to. UM.
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  Speaker 1: You know that. You know that. One of the great
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: books by Joseph Campbell's A Hero with a Thousand Faces.
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  Speaker 1: Even Steelberg, all those people use a hero of a
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: thousand faces, and so do I. Another great book is
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  Speaker 1: by Machili, The Five Season Cinematography. It's another It's another
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  Speaker 1: great book, you know. UM. Another great uh book is
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: you know Sun Super Wroalthy Art of War. The the
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: The War of Art is another great book. Talks about
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: how we procrastinatese and make excuses for not doing what
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: we know we should be doing, and what are the
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: patterns of that and how to get out of that.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: So studying our craft, studying things, I think it's very
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: important for young people a company uh No sudden moves
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: of talking to Bill Duke about the movie that premiers
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: July first on HBO. Max Uh it's a great movie,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: she said in nineteen fifty four. It's about black people
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: white people. You know they will know of video phones
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: back there. You know, police violence still existed, It has
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: existed all our lives as an African American. We know that.
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  Speaker 1: But when you look at what you've done. I talked
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: about the Duke Media Foundation. I talked about that, but
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: I always want to ship before we get off the
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  Speaker 1: believe starts July twenty one, but you say there's up
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  Speaker 1: and running June tent talk about the purpose of that
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  Speaker 1: and why the importance of the Unite network. That's why unite.
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• 24:47
  Speaker 1: mount June tenth, and on the first week in July,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: we will have a really serious soft launch. And I'm
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: putting a network together because I have children in my life.
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  Speaker 1: I have a god daughter, I have children that I
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: love God sons sons, and I think we have responsibility
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  Speaker 1: to leave them something called hope. Right now, when you
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: turn the news on, it's all bad. I mean, we're
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: being divided in ways that we've always been a divided
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: country basically etceuter but now taking a whole other level
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: with the COVID, with racism, with the politics we're being
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: divided in. Division is only going to leave chaos for
• 25:34
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• 25:38
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• 25:42
  Speaker 1: the good things that are happening in this world. There
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: are people around the world that are doing great. There's
• 25:47
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• 25:50
  Speaker 1: year on CNN called CNN Heroes. If you're it's a
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: show about individuals who are doing good and that's what
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: should be reported. So I have a network that really
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: is devoted to leave hope for our children, to give
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: them a historical context of all the sacrifices that have
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: been made so they could be here today and do
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: what they do. And so we have a number of
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: different programs on the network. I have the support from
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: people that Anthony Anderson, Centric, the Entertainer Um, a lot
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: of good folks, and so we're launching it and we
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: hope people check it out. Well, you know the uh
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: you know that was that was a cue and a
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  Speaker 1: cap of right there? You know that with no sigma
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• 26:39
  Speaker 1: just saying, you know that was some other fraternity members
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: there that that you just mentioned there, Mr Bill, do
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: you know just let you know that you know there
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: are some stigmas that okay, okay, but you just didn't
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: mention them there though. Bill you didn't mention them though, Bill, No,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm just saying. I'm just saying, told the respect.
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  Speaker 1: I understand your pop position, told position. I love you man,
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  Speaker 1: I love it, man, I kid to laugh first man
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  Speaker 1: Matt Damon, Raleoo, John Hamburn, the Fraser and most important
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  Speaker 1: initial Del Toro, most important my man, Bill to do
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  Speaker 1: back on the screen, big screen, small screen. I love
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  Speaker 1: him always, man, because that smiles amazing, this personality dynamic.
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  Speaker 1: And I will be flying myself into Los Angeles cally
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: to beat you and be with young man. Hear me
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  Speaker 1: on that. Okay, guess what, sir, I'm gonna send you
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• 27:49
  Speaker 1: you stay strong, Bill Duke. Okay, thank you so much, man,
• 27:52
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  Speaker 1: where she chairs the Music Industry Relationship Collective. Please working
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  Speaker 1: Deanna Williams. I saw thought I sneaked that in on
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  Speaker 1: on you. Look here we go old school shop is attack.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate that because I'm trying to go
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  Speaker 1: down there. I'm trying to I'm trying to maintain because
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  Speaker 1: my world is so crazy, it's so busy, I'm pulled
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  Speaker 1: in so many different directions. When this is kind of
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  Speaker 1: like calming. When I do these interviews with people I
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  Speaker 1: care about, people I respect, and giving you a voice
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: in this business. And sometimes because of the fact that
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: you know whether you're playing music, we don't know you.
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  Speaker 1: And then I try to pull back that curtain and
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: let let people understand that the different layers that you
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: have currently and then some of the things you position
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: us to to celebrate currently and tod to this week,
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  Speaker 1: especially today. In eighteen seventy nine, forty two years ago,
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• 32:48
  Speaker 1: and I were dressing. We were home excited that a
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  Speaker 1: dream that Gamble initiated with the conception of Black Music Month.
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  Speaker 1: We were on our way to the White House to
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  Speaker 1: participate paid in a picnic on the south lawn of
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  Speaker 1: the White House that President and Russell and Carter hosted
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  Speaker 1: for two hundred members primarily of the Black Music Association,
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  Speaker 1: with performances by Billy Eckstein, Chuck Berry, Andre Crouch, Sarah
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Jordan Powell, Evelyn Champagne, Kid MFSB under the direction of
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: dexter Ones. That it was a heavy day. I was
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: a young girl. I was excited. It was wonderful. So
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: today is the actual forty second anniversary, as you mentioned
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: on well, you know the employtants of music. Wow, when
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: I think about music and especially in the African American community,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: you know how music is such an emotional is used
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: to motivate people, is used to inspire sports, sports sporting
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: events as you used in weddings, is used at funeral
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: uh celebrations, done some of just to just to set
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: the tone on the elevator. Talk about us about music, right,
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  Speaker 1: Why does music resonate so much in a person's life,
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: lifestyle period. Yes, great, great question. I think all music resonates,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: But my focus and concentration is on black music, America's
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: indigenous music art forms established here in the United States,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: from the blues to gospel to American classical which is jazz,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: R and B, rock and roll people all created by Rosetta,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Thar Chuck, Barry, bo Didley, don't get it twisted. Elvis
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: was an imitator, not the originator, and so we have
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: a rich legacy in America with this majestic various genres.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: And what's important to Rashan is that, you know, when
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: you're talking about money making matters, well, black music generates
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: billions of dollars annually and right now the number one
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: genre in the world happens to be hip hop. So
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: music and black music in particular, it's a universal language
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: that has felt, if not overstood, by billions on the planet.
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  Speaker 1: You know, when you say hip hop, you know say
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  Speaker 1: you know because I grew up you know, I grew
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  Speaker 1: up to you know, the forty five single, you know,
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  Speaker 1: with the Franklin, the old J's, and then the Mothership landed.
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  Speaker 1: You know, oh my god, when he landed, he changed
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: the whole music. You know, that's from bands existed. Now
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: you don't see bands anymore like you used to talk
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: about that little transition from because I mean when I
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: was growing up in college, you know, there was nothing
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: for me to see eight to ten guys on stage.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Even local bands were like that deep. It was like
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: enjoying that moment. Then then hip hop came away, and
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: the instruments went away and the DJ replaced them. And
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: now I don't see that at all anymore. Any musicians
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: well blamed on technology. With the invention of garage fan
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: and pro tools, people were able to have a computer
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: a laptop in their home and be able to access
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: all the instruments. And also the demise in many school
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: districts of music. I don't know about you, but I
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: remember when I was growing up in Manhattan, in Harlem
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: and Washington Heights, we had to take ban we had
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: to have jim These are required subjects. However, now many
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: school districts, because of economics, have cut back music programming,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: So I would blame the lack of bands. And mind you,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: they are still some bands, but not what century are
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: we talking about. You and I grew up in the
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: twentieth century, so our generation we had no choice but
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: to play instruments and to sing. But now with the technology,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: things have changed immensely. And as you mentioned the rise
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: of hip hop, you don't you don't need a full band.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: It's a DJ and the m C and the hype.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Gotta conclude that hype going no talent. But is there
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: at their talent? Now? When we look at music and
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: I look at my life tied to music, I can
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: tell you it's certain songs right now. You know, because
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: you know music videos played a major role in our
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: visual part of music. You know because now I will
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: go to a music video. Uh. In certain parts of
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: my life, I go to if I hear a something,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: I go to a party, if I go to if
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: I hear brick cars, I knew exactly I was at
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: a frat party right now, I can I can see
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: if I get that song, I know exactly if it
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: has zoomed. I would go to a pool party where
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: I was trying to sing. I know exactly where I
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: was at. I remember when when when Pete Funk landed,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: I was on the basketball court trying in the basketball
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: was so cold that almost broke my fingers when they
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: passed me the ball. All these things are so important.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: So now we're get into June being black black music man.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: And then you guys went to President Card at the time.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: What was the inspiration behind that? Yeah, the inspiration was
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Kenny Gamble, who is in the Rock and Roll Hall
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: of Fame with his partner leon Ah. They are the
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: co architects along with Tom Bell of T S o P.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: The Sound of Philadelphia. Gamble visited Nashville and saw what
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  Speaker 1: the Country Music Association was doing in terms of branding
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  Speaker 1: not just a genre, country music, but also a city
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  Speaker 1: and thought, we need to do that. So he came
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  Speaker 1: back and established the Black Music Association the b m A,
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: and from that he conceived of a month much like
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  Speaker 1: we have February, Black History Month, and other months that
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: put a focus on highlight on different things. Cancer Awareness Month,
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: HIV Awareness Month, Asian Pacific. You know, all those months
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: are an opportunity to highlight and celebrate the individuals involved
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: in that month. So Black Music Month. He reached out
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  Speaker 1: to Clarence Avant, who reached out to the White House
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: and President car this administration, and hence the first celebration
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  Speaker 1: of June Black Music Month took place June seventh, nineteen
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  Speaker 1: seventy nine. And so that was the origin story of
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: that is what happened. And Gamble and I were a
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  Speaker 1: couple at that time. We have three beautiful adult children,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: and a very handsome six and a half year old
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: came over here and broke some of my art the
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  Speaker 1: other day. But that was the beginning, and he and
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  Speaker 1: I were a couple at the time. So in the
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  Speaker 1: Black Music Association, I worked to get Black Music Month,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: worked hard to get it recognized, and it wasn't until
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  Speaker 1: two thousand that President Bill Clinton, after I lobbied Congress
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: for three years, officially recognized it in the American government
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: and from the perspective of the White House. So every
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: American president since Bill Clinton has signed a proclamation. President
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Biden just released his recently recognizing June as Black Music Month.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's really interesting you say that, because you know,
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: I've been fortunate to be a part of radio in
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: the early nineties and Houston Magic one oh two, and
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: I didn't you know, I know it's seven nine and
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: it has been recognized, but I didn't get a feel
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  Speaker 1: for it until two thousand when Steve Harvey now was
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  Speaker 1: on radio on two point three to Beat in l A.
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  Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden it became like, you know,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: advertisers wanted to advertised doing black music mark, and then
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: you started having events tied to that in black music mark.
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  Speaker 1: And so when you when you you said something notably
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: that you know, Gamble he went to Nashville. He saw
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: what they were doing with country and Western music. Now,
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: the National Museum of African American Music, it's in Nashville,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: talking we go. What I didn't know when I first
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: accepted involvement with the museum and the aconym is named now,
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: I didn't realize that Nashville has such a rich legacy
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: in history as pertained to black music, absolutely in gospel music,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: in R and B and rock. Jimi Hendricks lived in
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Nashville for a period of time. Last check. He was
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: a big time rocker of one of the fathers of
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: rock music. And so Nashville it just happened to be
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  Speaker 1: the city where the private sector, wealthy individuals government, the
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: city as well as the state government came together and
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: it's a twenty two year in the making project, which
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: is astonishing. I've only been involved the last seven years,
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: which you figured. When I first got involved, I was
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: looking at blueprints. Now as about a month ago, I
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: walked into a fabulous, modern, very contemporary American history museum
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: that is dealing with our contributions to all genre starting
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: in sixteen nineteen when enslaved Africans were kidnapped and brought
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: to the shores of what is now the United States
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: of America. So, yes, we're in Nashville in the heart
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: of now and listen, you've got to come. As my guest,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: I'm inviting you all to come because it is amazing.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: I literally cried the first five minutes that I was
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: in the lobby of the museum. It is spectacular. Seven
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: galleries over fifty six thousand square feet and galleries filled
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: with artifacts and information and inspiration about our contribution to
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: global culture. Well, you know, I would when you say
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: you've moved to tears, I would have to believe that's
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: on this statement because you've been so associated with music,
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: and like I said, music is tied to memories and
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: and I know when you in your case, you played
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: music some of these artists music. You've been on stage,
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: You've introduced these artists, You've had lunch, dinner, shared great
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: you know, celebration stories and sad, disappointing stories. What was
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: the most what was the biggest takeaway when you walked
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: into the museum, which is now based in Nashville, is open. Uh,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: you know, the ceremonies gonna We're gonna talk about the
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: ceremonies in a minute in the notele who are going
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: to be there, but talk about that moment really, because
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: I have to believe it was really breathtaking for you,
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: and also in a level of disbelief. The disbelief not
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: so much because we all worked very hard. I worked,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: I chaired co chaired of Phil Thornton two functions where
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: we raise money for the museum, but more astonishment at
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: what we can do when we really apply ourselves, because again,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: this was an idea at some point and snow bald.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: And so what was my big takeaway from the museum
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: is that we are wealthy black folks. We are wealthy
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: in creativity and it is obvious and demonstrated in this museum,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: and as a woman who is dedicated, I've dedicated my
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: entire life to the promotion, perpetuation, the preservation of Black music.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: We are are slogan now as black music has a home,
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: and I feel like my work is in that building.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: A great deal of my work is in that building.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: So I am elated to be involved, and I'm encouraging
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: everyone to come and get that emotional feeling. If you
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: look and go to UH National Museum of African American
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  Speaker 1: Music nay ma'am dot org, you'll see videos, You'll see images,
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: and you'll also see testimonies from families that have visited
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: the museum and had a very visceral experience, much like
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: I did when I first game. I know that I
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: talked to cel Eldredge as the creator and executive of
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: Cafe Boca. I know she told me that Radio UH
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: was hosted by Lenny Love and u angel Leaque and
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: yo yo, they're going to be done that broadcasting. And
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: then June seventeen is the grand opening. Well, you know
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: you'd be honoring Quincy Jones, Lionel, Richie, Smokey Robinson, Shaka Khan,
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: the Fist Jubilee singers, gospel legends right there. So when
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: you start a grand open celebration with Quincy Jones, then
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: you slide over to eas That's I said, Zoomole Richie,
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: then Smoking Robs, the cruising you know, come on now,
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: you know it's some history walking out. And that's just
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: some of the names that are just being mentioned in
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: this press release. But talk about the grand opening with
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: your June seventeenth. That whole weekend is like a just
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: just each day has a forward moving to the next day.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: Talk about that because that's the weekend you want me
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: to come down, when you want to come down that
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: we want you to come. I'm coming down that weekend.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: I got both my COVID shots. I was still gonna
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: wear my mask, but I got both my COVID shots.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be down there so I can hook you.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: I want you to come. Yes, you mentioned our esteemed
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: honor Reads. These are all people who have made when
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: we talk about sizeable contributions to our music and our
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: lives and our memories, all those individuals that you mentioned,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: and I think I should also say that Angela Yee
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: from the Breakfast Club, who is part of my music
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: industry relations Collective is going to be hosting that evening
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: and the FIS Jubilee Singers were the first global ambassadors
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: of Black music around the world. They were super popular
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: and you know, well received in Europe. So we're honoring
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: the legacy of the Fifth Jubilee Singers as well. And
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: I want to shout out our president and CEO, Henry
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: Beecher Hicks, the third, who has done a phenomenal job
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: as a leader moving us towards this day. We had
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: an actual ribbon cutting back on MLKA Junior Day, but
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: the official rand opening of course restricted opening earlier this
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: year because of COVID and now that people like you
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: me are getting vaccinated, we are opening the doors to
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: the museum and our block party will also be the
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: day of Juneteenth, and we're celebrating Juneteenth and inviting the
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: community to come in and see the museum. Now, Jo
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: gotta ask all these coutions fear there don't as you
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: have to give the museum in general, there are and
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: and again people can go to Black Music Museum dot com.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: It's very reasonable. If you become a member, obviously it
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: changes uh the membership. However, during this weekend of the
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: grand opening The museum is going to be open on
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: the block party day when we're celebrating Juneteenth, and open
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: to the community at large, but there is a fee.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: And the day that I was there my first visit
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: to the museum after you know, seeing it just dirt
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: and the construction process. I live in Philly, so I
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: go to Nashville for our board meetings. Uh. It was
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: quite amazing to see the construction and the completion of
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: the museum. But children, school groups were there the day
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: and just tons of them, and it really warmed my
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: heart because this museum is for families, it's for everyone.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: It's not just for black folks. I want to go
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: on the record and say, you have a pulse, you
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: have a heartbeat, this m this for you, seriously, because
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: the reality is most of us, all of us, regardless
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: to your musical preference. As you stated at the outside
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: of our conversation, black music is an integral part of
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: our experience here on this planet, not just here in America,
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: but around the world. So our expectation is that we
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: will be an international donation of location, expecting people from
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: everywhere to come see this is pretty amazing. When I
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: when I when I look at you and I talked.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: First of all, uh, it's this board got a lot
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: of the great talkers like you a great talker. Field
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: Thornton is a great talker. Do you talk about here?
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that highest ranking black man, My ranking
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: black man is joining our board. Um Vince Gill Country
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: Artists is joining our board. Fantastic. Just you know, some
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: pretty dynamic people are have signed up, Monique, I'd let
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: some great folks. So I'm honored to serve on this board.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: I want to I want to give it a little
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: bit about you as a strategist, as a as a
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: media planner, as a person that, as they said, a
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: whisper whisper because in New York Times, you know the
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: thing about it when I because I've been fortunate to
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: manage talent right talent and produce talent. And you know,
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: every talent is different, and I think with a lot
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: of people make mistakes, especially agencies, they try to sign
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: up a bunch of people and then they try to
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: treat them all the same, and you know that's not
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: the case. You know they'll be successful with anybody. You
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: have to hear their story here, their pain, here, their joy,
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: and then try to disseminate the right course of action
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: for that person. So when it comes to that, because
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: as a strategist, you really are managed your too, because
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: I know you and I need to sit down and
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: talk about some projects because we have a similar lane
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: that we always cross when it comes to strategy. And
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: people ask me all the time how I'm most How
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: can I generate so much success for certain people? First
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: of all, I always tell them they have to be
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: talented one. Secondly, they have to be willing to work hard,
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: because you like them myself, Dianna, You're hard work. You know,
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: twenty four hours in a day is twenty four hours
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: a day. You're gonna use every hour in it. And
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: and the other person is that I think in my
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: side of it, they have to be a caring person.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: They have to care about something. And those three qualities
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: of the type of qualities where I work hard for
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: it because I care about people. I'm a hard worker.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: And then I'm also I have a strong belief in
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: my talent that I want to share with that person
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: to to to develop their talent. What are your thoughts
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: when you talk to when people approach you or you
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: approach them about your strategy planning. Well, I've had the blessing,
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: as you mentioned, for the last twenty seven years, concurrent
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: to me being on the radio and television to coach
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: a plethora of emerging and established talents, not just recording
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: artists you mentioned Rihanna some of my reporting artists, but
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: I've also worked with c e o s, managers, actors, directors,
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: all manner of talent. And the first thing I'm looking
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: for is personality because that is part of what attracts
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: of the human beings is do you have the capacity
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: and the talent UH and the knowledge, the expertise in
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: your particular area and the willingness to learn. That is
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: so critical to me and my process when I'm coaching individuals.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: So um yeah, twenty seven years my company, I'm the
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: CEO of Influence Entertainment. UH. You can go to the
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: website Influence Entertainment dot com to learn more about us
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: and part of what my company does. In addition to
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: media coaching and artist development, very much in the tradition
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: of Mrs Maxine Powell, who was Marry Gordy's artist development
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: and media coach person UH is also we produce events.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: I produced the Marian Anderson Award in Philadelphia at the
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: Kimmel cent Up for the Performing Arts. For years, I
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: did it with Pat Moran and uh last year we
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: honored well not during the pandemic, teen Cool in the
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: Gang the year before that, Patty LaBelle Gambled and Huff
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: John Bon, Jovie Berry, Gordy. So I'm a que native
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: producer and I love I love conceptualizing and actualizing. I'm
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: big on that. My parents taught me anything that your
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: mind can conceive and believe, you can achieve. So that's
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: what my company does. That's what I've been doing. And again,
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: radio has been important, and you know this from your
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: years in media. Have the platform to be able to
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: reach hundreds of thousands, millions of individuals with feel good
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: and information that's of value to their lives. The quality
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: of their lives is what I'm all about. So you know, Diana,
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: when I when I listened to you, and you know,
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: I do bow down to you. You know, because listen
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: to what you just said. She said. Athletes, she said, actors,
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: she said, singers, she said, exacutive. Each one of those
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: lanes is unique. Now I tell you I can't mess
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: with music. Okay, it is so complicated it you know, uh,
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: you know, comedian, I got you, after I got your athlete,
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: I got your executive music. She throws that in like
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: it's nothing. So so if you go to that website,
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: it's a beautiful website. I go to the website, I'll
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: I'll be stealing out this. Can you make our website
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: look like her? Because it's so pretty, you know, it's
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: so flow, it flows, it looks big, it looks great,
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: it looks like you want to move more about this brand.
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: When you go to her website, it's amazing. But I
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: just want to slow it down here. When we start
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: talking about you know, her be on the board or
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: the Black Music Museum that's that's opening and the grand
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: openings July June seventeen in Nashville, I want to talk
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: about the individual her brand. She says, executive, like, Okay,
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: you know, I do executives. You know I do athletes.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: I do actors and actresses, which is both you know
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, male and female. Okay, these singers, but
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: then the singers, then she throws into the rappers, which
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: is a totally different world. Then you have the old school,
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: then you have the new school. And then Janelle Mona.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: She kind of like pop and then she then you
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: have Rihanna, she kind of like pop black. But what
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: is she? Come on, girl? You all just suffing special. Listen,
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: I'm with you in terms of anything. Like I said
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: that the mind can conceive and believe, you kind of achieve.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: My parents raised me to squeeze this lemon and to
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: get everything out of the experience of living. I am
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: living every second in fullness. I am. I love life,
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: and I love people. I love my fellow human beings.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm a little annoyed with their behaviors, sometimes downright,
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: you know, angry with people who are not righteous, kind,
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: loving and considerate. But for the most part, I am
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: grateful to be alive. I'm elated to have this opportunity
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: to speak with you and your audience about my passions.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: And you know, the other question I get is, how
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: can we celebrate black music? Stream the music of the
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: artists you love, by the music now things are opening up.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: Go out here, live music by the merch of the
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: artists that you love. Sit with young children and tell
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: them about the artists that you listen to and loved
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: when you were growing up. And it conversely, listened to
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: them about who they're listening to. Having intergenerational moment when
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: you're hearing what they like. You know, it's not just
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: all about what you like. Be exposed and consider. So
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: there's so many ways that you can engage. My grandson
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: was here this past weekend read books on famous musicians, teach, learn, celebrate.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: Black Music Month is for all of us. And it's
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: not to say that we do not celebrate the music
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: beyond June. It's an everyday celebration. Dune just happens to
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: be the concentrated moment. Okay, Okay, Diana, I got all
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: that I'm talking about you. Okay, you just you just
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: broke off with this a little speech about the museum.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about you girl. You know see, actually we
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: say gamble and all that we talk about to feel thor.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about you. Your talents so unique, identifying and
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: helping other talented people. That's part of the UA that
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: I have to be able to me that other people.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: As part of my talent, My talent is being on
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: the radio, talking, being on television disseminating information. My talent
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: is not cooking so well, which is why my man
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: was like babe. But what I just try to say
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: is in my interview with you, and I've interviewed you before,
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: and I'm always amazed at the humbleness of your talents
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: and and and and sometimes the humbleness is good and
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: bad because sometimes because when your humble, people don't recognize
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: you for your gifts because they can they can just
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: assume it's just part of your your resume. And I
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: just wanted to slow down and say I brought you
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: own here to talk about the museum, the grand opening,
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: Black Music mone and June seventeen is when the three
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: days celebrations is gonna start. You work as a board
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  Speaker 1: member and all those great things, but also to acknowledge
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  Speaker 1: because what what's the purpose to become successful and then
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  Speaker 1: time that we're cooking in because just by preprepping, slicing
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  Speaker 1: that saves a fraction of the time. And that's one
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  Speaker 1: How do you deal with that? Being able to under
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  Speaker 1: And you know, one of the ways how deliver deal
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  Speaker 1: Men Cooking celebrates fathers, and its celebrates those that are
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  Speaker 1: entrepreneurs Rob and Jin Mars. In twenty eleven, they opened
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  Speaker 1: a retail bakery store Fronts, selling over one hundred flavors
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  Speaker 1: of homemade cupcakes. I know they will do. They started
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  Speaker 1: their bakery from their love of food and sweets and
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  Speaker 1: wanted to create a different kind of life for their family.
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  Speaker 1: The company now has involved into coaching and mentoring through
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  Speaker 1: their own line and small business course to start Small
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  Speaker 1: Wind Big Academy. Hear me the Start Small Wind Big
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  Speaker 1: Academy where they teach bakers of all ages the blueprint
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  Speaker 1: to start their own bakery business. There are many courses
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: and classes teaching bakers how to perfect their skills, but
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  Speaker 1: very but very few courses have to tell you how
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  Speaker 1: to make money doing what you do, whether it's at
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: home or whether it's a passion, or they're gonna take
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  Speaker 1: you to the next level, how to make it profitable
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  Speaker 1: and the lasting full time business. Please work with money
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  Speaker 1: making conversations bout entrepreneurship about making money? Please walcome Rob
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  Speaker 1: and Jen Morris, Hey that team? Let me let me
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  Speaker 1: fix my ear so I get this all in man?
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  Speaker 1: How are you doing to Rob? As my man? Right there?
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  Speaker 1: You know? So where you guys based at We're right
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  Speaker 1: outside of Philadelphia. So our bakery was in Delaware County, southwest,
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  Speaker 1: right now east coast. You know, there's a lot of people.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's probably the most populated area in the country,
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: is the eastern Corrida. And so why sweets? Why cupcakes?
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: Because you know, I consider myself a baker, and cupcakes,
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: even though they're so cute, they're really difficult to make.
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  Speaker 1: Am I correct? Maybe it's just my skill level, talk
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  Speaker 1: to about it. I feel skill level. The cup pages
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  Speaker 1: was the easiest way to reproduce something a flavor, a
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: mentally of flavors into one little dessert. So we can
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: do a box of twelve different flavors, right, and it's
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: just really wild everybody's minds. So so when you when
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: you talk about ideas, because you guys are a couple,
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: you know usually because that means that I was just
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: saying it real. You know, you wake up, go to sleep.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you eat lunch together, breakfast together. And when
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: you have business partners, you live a business partner checks out.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: See tomorrow brother or see tomorrow system. How does that
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  Speaker 1: work when the ideas are constantly flowing and the conflicts
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: can constantly be flowing when you want to make adjustments
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: when you have an idea, when you say over one
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  Speaker 1: hundred flavors, that they had to be some conflict. But
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: how did that work? Because I do get a lot
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: of couple entrepreneurs on my show, every one of them
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: has a different version of how they make it work.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: How do you guys make it work? From the store
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  Speaker 1: front before we moved to the academy side, We're gonna
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: keep it real. First of all, you know, we're like
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: regular couples. You know, we have our issues just like
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: everybody else. But I think that our footing in our
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: relationship is what helps us, you know, work together as
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: a team. You know, we have a great foundation starting off,
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: so you know, as entrepreneurs together, you know, we bounce
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: ideas off of each other and go back and forth,
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: and we always know that we we we both are
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: are looking for the right decision, you know what I mean.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: And it helps a lot if the foundation is there.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: But the foundation is important, man. Well you know, communication
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: is important, which creates the foundation. And so Jen, I
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  Speaker 1: need go Rob, you know, I'm sure he needs to
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: know it all, sure, because I'm married to you know.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: Then my wife tells me ever to know it all okay,
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: And she she in her world kind of like, is
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: the real decision maker. And her world is really the
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  Speaker 1: person who does the the leg work. Because I'm a
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: type of person, I throw out the manu and go
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: do the job, you know, when she reads the manual
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: and then she makes sure everything is followed through on
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  Speaker 1: the instruction. Who is the admin person of the relationship
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: than you you know, And then I handed over and
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: he'll follow it. There you and that has to be
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: the way. That has to be the way of any business. Correct.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: You know, whether you are married or whether you have
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: business partners, someone has to take charge a different role nobody.
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  Speaker 1: You can't have somebody looking over your shoulder. Admin has
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: to be trust. You can't have anybody as far as operations,
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: because I look at Robin is the part of the operations,
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: part of the relationship. So that trust in any business model.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: Let's discuss that right now, because I'm pretty sure that's
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: part of the of your academic of your academy presentation
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: is about trust, is about taking control of your position
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: in the business. In this case, it's two of you, guys.
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  Speaker 1: If you're a solo person, that's you're taking on both
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: the ADMIN and who you bring on board. So as
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: you're doing the store front before you went into the
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: can I mean eline e online or online services do
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  Speaker 1: not provide what was the most daunting part of being
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: an entrepreneur in a storefront property? Good? Well, I would
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  Speaker 1: I would say the most daunting is um just like
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: you said, working with each other that that was definitely
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: the number one. Because there's so many different ideas that
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: we bounced off and we were trying to make the
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: right decisions whatnot. But also by us working together the
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: way we did, that also helped us step out and
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: deal with people on the professional level, because when you're
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: dealing with these professional people, they want to make sure
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: that you know your business is solid, that you guys
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: are bouncing off the right ideas or whatnot, so that
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: you can get to that next point. So that was
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: the most daunting part for me, you know, I would
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: say for me, it was definitely um trying to get
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: the right people in the right places. Because as when
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: you first start, you are a solopreneurs, even if you
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: have a partner, you wear all all of the hats.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: So that's what gets people overwhelmed. That's what gets people
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: burnt out. And I try to impress upon them that
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: you have to delegate and you have to put You
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: have to find the right people and put them in
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: the right places, because just because you have someone you
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: throw them in into a position, that doesn't mean that
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: that's their strength. So you know, as a CEO and
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: an owner, you also have to realize that that you know,
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: try to find the right person number one and then
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: make sure that you're putting them in the right place
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: so that they can succeed and they can ultimately, you know,
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: take your business to another level too. And then then
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: when you say that, because I've heard that term at
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: another level, what what? Because so many people are different levels.
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: You know, another level might be buying a Toyota. Some
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: people might be buying the Mercedes, you know what I'm saying.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: And so how do you define what that another level
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: is when I speak like that, jin, Well, like you say,
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: it all depends on where what level we started on.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: So for us, we took it one level at a time.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 1: So if we were starting in our home, the next
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: level for us was into a storefront, right, But for
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: some people that's not one particular jump. So that's what
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: we teach step by step because again, people see the
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: end goal. They have these dreams and they see the
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: end goal, but they're starting at level A, and all
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: they're thinking about is how do I get to level Z?
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: But you've got every step in between. You can't jump
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: from the bottom step and jump all the way to
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: the top in your home, like think about your stairs steps.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: You can't just fly from the bottom to the top
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: and you can leave you can leave me. You can
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: just I love that theory because just stand at the
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: base of the stairs and just trying to jump, you
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: may jump my twist your ankle, you might whoa and
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: fall backwards and breaking neck. There there's a lot of
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of mishaps can happen when you try
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: to jump steps. And the reality of what you just
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: said that just dawned on me when you just said
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: that by steps, because if you try to do that
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: in real life, you see the difficulty of trying to
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: achieve I'm gonna jump to the third step. Just taking
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: to one step at the time, it's effort. At least
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: you know you have a plan of action. You can
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: do it again. You might be able to jump that
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: to that third, but can you jump to the six?
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: You know, how are you feeling that day? So that
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: really is a really is is a safe way to
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: look at the whole process. But now, you guys, I
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: know your whole background is baking, but it seems like
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: your philosophies can be applied in any business format. Correct, absolutely, absolutely, Yeah.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: Our baking our strategy and we always say yes, it's
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: for baking because we're baker's right, We've had many other
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: businesses that we started trying to start before the baking business.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: That was just the one that stuck. And I think
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: that was because of our extreme cashing for were foodies.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: So that was the only one that really sucked. And
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: I guess that was our calling, that was our that
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: was our assignment at that time. But our strategies, yes,
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: can work in any business. And I always say, this
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: one baking business, this initial assignment is your mustard seed.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: This is the one that you're planting. You're nourishing and nurturing,
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: and once it begins to grow and sprout, you're gotta
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: start getting many branches coming off of that tree. And
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: you can take that same business model that we're teaching
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: you and apply it to any other income stream, any
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: other business that you're trying to start from this one
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: baking distance. You know, you know, looking at twenty twenty
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: was an amazing year emotionally, uh, watching people and friends
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: that you know, worried about your own personal health because
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: of COVID eighteen, the civil unrest brought on by the
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: George Floyd situation. But we still had to eat, we
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: still had to participate, and like I went out this
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: past weekend and it was people are standing out the
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: side and restaurant restaurant, you know, the favorite restaurants like that.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: We're just lined up. So it's like people out now, okay,
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: but they weren't out last year. Okay. We locked down
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: for two complete months and then all of a sudden,
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: you have restrictions and curve side delivery. How was the
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: baking industry affected by COVID eighteen. Oh it tremendously. I
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: mean it's sad enough to see so many of our
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: I guess business besties or whatever I have to close
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: down and shut down. Because when they initially said that
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: everything has to close, everything has to shut down, you know,
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: that's what people did. Um. But me and my husband
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: we were like, okay, let's bread between the lines here
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: for food. They didn't say we had to completely shut down.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: They said people couldn't come into our establishments. People wouldn't
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: linger around. So we were like, okay, we got these
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: bills to pay, These kids got to eat, right, so
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: we need to continue to run this business and make
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: this money. Right. So we're like, all right, let's pivot
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: back to the original business plan. We already had delivery
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: in place. We already had, thank god, you know, delivery
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: vans and things like that. We just beat up our
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: delivery and we implemented a curb side pickup program, quickly
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: put that out there, started marketing that the floodgates open rastauant.
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, people were calling from left and right because
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: every other Bay Carey shut down. They still had birthdays,
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: they still had you know, a certain I guess in
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: their life that if nothing else, they wanted to make
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: that event special. So we were there for them to
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: deliver their cupcakes, to deliver their cakes, a little personalized messages,
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: and that I mean, we got phone calls with people
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: crying and tears because they were just excited to be
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: able to celebrate something so special in a time like this. Yeah. Well,
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: you know the interesting part about that whole You know,
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: because if I have a younger my nephew, he has
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: a barbecue staying in um Houston, Texas, Big six Barbecue,
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: and because he had already signed up for you know,
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: door Dash and Uber Eats, and so he was already
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: on the technology forefront. But what I discovered is that
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: a lot of our black businesses, African American businesses, were
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: still traditional just walk in pay cash a credit card
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: in that's was that the big awakening for a lot
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: of African American restaurant businesses in is that they have
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: to start using despite the fees that they have to
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: use Uber each they have to use door Dash. Yeah,
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of people weren't able to
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: make that transition or as like you said in one
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: of your interviews, to wake up dumb, you know, and
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: being able to reinvent themselves and Amblem have different ideas
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: and you know, just keep the world moving and don't
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: forget that that that main goal that you're trying to trap.
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: You know. Um, a lot of people have problems with that,
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: and that's one of the main things that we deal
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: with with trying to make people wake up dumb. You know,
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: we take them from f and bring them back to
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: egg and we start them all up again because you never,
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: you never, you can't throw those blueprint steps away. You
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: always got to go back to them every time you
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: get to the next level, go back and startle you know. Well,
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: you know a lot of people are frust trated by
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: that because they wanted to just they wanted to be
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: the same dude. And when it's when it's they didn't
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: start pointing fingers, that's all you know. I didn't expect that.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: I didn't play for that. Well, I don't know if
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: I'm playing to wake up I don't. I love to
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: think that I can wake up healthy every day. When
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: I don't wake up without a cold or with the cold,
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: then it affects my whole day. But I can't affect
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: my business model and the business models you guys had.
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: The place was store from y'all. Y'all was winning, y'all
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: was doing it. Then I don't tell y'all said that
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: didn't work. Why you you? It's again you You got
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: kids to feed, You got visions, um, you see yourself
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: somewhere in the near future, and we have we have
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: points that we have to hit right. This stuff down
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: every day right, we don't need that mark. Then we
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: have to get back together, figure out something and get
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: you a little huddle, make a boy there, and we
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: keep on going and nothing, nothing stops us because the
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: thing is or sean, this thing it has to work
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: or has to work. Our dreams are so dog on big.
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: I don't care what roadblocks come in our way. We're
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: gonna figure out a way to go around it, over it,
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: under it, through, whatever the case may be. Because we
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: have these dream as, they have to get done. So
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: there's no time to sit and wallow in or make
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: excuses like, oh my gosh, the world is crashing down
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: around us. But guess what, like you said, we're still
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: alive here, so we have the neck, we have the
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 1: wherewithal to still figure this thing out and make it go.
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: It may not be perfect and may not be what
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: we thought about, but as long as we're awake in
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 1: here and breathing, God has given us the will to
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: keep pushing forward. And that's what we're trying to teach
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: these people, these bankers, these business owners that you can't
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: be tunnel vision because a COVID is going to happen again,
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: it's just in another form. That market is going to crash,
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: Another economic downturn is going to happen, and you're going
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: to have to be resilient enough to push through and
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: keep pushing forward. Now, you guys, host, there are live
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: training class for bakers every Thursday, you know, giving them secrets.
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: Walk us through that staff, Rob, what exactly is that
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: live Thursday session? Well, when when when we first leave
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: with you you know, we tell you our story so
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: that you can be comfortable with us and you can
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: understand it. We come from the same place that you
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: go from. You know, we've been through so much, We've
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: seen so much, and there's nothing better than learning from
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 1: somebody who has to experience, you know. For a lot
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: of people, that's the only way to learn. You need
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: a mentor, you know. So we start off with that,
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: and then we go back to letting everybody know that
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: there are no secrets, right you know, there there really
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: are no secrets. Is hard work, dedication, and and and
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: getting over at home. Stop avoiding the home, stop going
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: around the home, you know. And and we like to
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 1: hold people accountable for what they do, and they love that,
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: you know. We make sure that they're on par we
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: make sure that they're doing what they're supposed to. If
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: they're skipping steps were on them. So a lot of
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: people just need that accountability, you know. But going back
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: to the basis is the main thing, because we deal
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: with a lot of people who are already in business
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: and they believe that they have to know it all.
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: They have the smart scenari at a certain level, but
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: they still can't get over their home because they failed
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: to start from the beginning and realize that certain things
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: they get, you get stuff you cannot get. Stuffs in
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: this you know, it will come back to haunt you.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: Sure don't get to a certain point, but it will
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: come back to haunt you. I'm talking to Robin Jen
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: mars Uh. They live in the Philadelphia, Pennsylvania area, and
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: they have a company called the Start, Small, Wind, Big Academy,
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: and it teaches bakers of all ages that I'm very
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: much aware of this as a blueprint. And when you
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: start talking about business, they're just saying bakers. Because you know,
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: if you're a mechanic, you want to you want to
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: talk from your strength. If you started talking about it,
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you how the mechanics shop. People gonna go, well,
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: you know about being a mechanic. But see that's all
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: they're just saying. You know, they say, hey, we're gonna
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: tell you how to be successful as bakers, but quote unquote,
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: we also tell you how to be successful as entrepreneurs.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: But you just sometimes you just can't jump out there
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 1: and give yourself a title because people don't know whether
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 1: what are you referencing, Well, what is your line of work.
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: What level of expertise are you drawing it on? And
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: so now you're teaching bakers. Now this used rae Sean
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 1: McDonald's example. Like I said, I already shack. I can
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: make me some good apple turnovers. I can make me
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: some good perch comb I can, I can, I can,
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: I can cheesecakes. I can't mess with your board with
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: cheesecake lenge. You stopped talking to me. I hang up
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: on you start talking about with me cheesecake. Now you
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: know the relationship gonna go south. You start messing my cheesecake. Now.
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: See I said, y'all, earl, I couldn't make no cupcakes.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: I told you all that. I was very hard. I
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 1: was willing to confess the ignorance of cupcake. And you win.
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 1: That's so easy. I ken't believe you. That's stupid. That's
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: all you say. Right there. I look at that little
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: cupcake you cause see see, cupcakes get to me because
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 1: you have so many different cupcakes. You that the big
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: old jumbo cupcake and be huge and be flooring on.
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: I can never make that one. I can sweat you can.
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: And then people tell me with Sean, you living up
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: too much. And then I'm trying to figure out how
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: do I get my little cupcake to rise and then
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: hold that that that that crown. That don't look. That's
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 1: where I'm at. Gin, That's what your boy can't do.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: I have tried. What am I doing wrong? I'm talking
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: to wrong? Broth bro got wrong because she laughed. He
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: got way too many talents. You do it, you can't
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 1: do them all. I gotta do this because see, you know,
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: because because you know the thing about this is that
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 1: I'm always one of these people that I enjoy life.
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: That's just see. That's why I wanted to get you
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 1: guys on not on the interview about your business starts
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 1: some all win big academy, but about relationships. And I
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 1: know that that's key. And the home environment is key
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: to whether you're in business or not. What do you
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: bring home if you're having a good dad business, or
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 1: you're bringing that a day at home, or or you
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 1: bringing a consistent personality at home. I had a bad day.
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: I'm coming home feeling bad and putting it on top
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 1: of the children, putting that on top of the wife,
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: and and then waking up the next day caring that
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: same negative energy back out the door. And to create confusion.
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: And so the relationship power of what you have to
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 1: talk about leads into banking credit your customers, customer servers,
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 1: and so you guys are dealing with people who may
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: be in business or who have a home business. They're
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: trying to expand beyond that, or never even thought about it,
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: but just a great chelfs, a great pastry shelfs at
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 1: their house, and somebody has told them they got a good,
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: great cookie recipe. Let's let's go to each level of
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: that conversation. Let's go to the person who somebody has
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: told them they know or them cookies are good. You
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: need to stop giving them a weight, you need to
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 1: start selling. Let's talk about how do you communicate with
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 1: that person. It's all about what are your goals? I
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: always ask two questions on my interviews. I do one
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 1: on on booking a strategy calls as well, So I
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: always ask number one, why is this so important for
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 1: you right now? What does this mean? What is getting
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: this business up and running mean to you? Number one?
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 1: And I don't want to hear nothing about oh, people
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: saying my cookies taste good, I should sell them, or
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: oh I just love the way people you know, dance
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: when they taste my cookies? What does this mean to you,
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: to your family, to your life? Right? What kind of
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: legacies you are trying to leave? A number two? What
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 1: if it doesn't go well? What if it doesn't pan out? Right?
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 1: And then I want to hear that person say, because
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 1: I know that they're serious. I want to hear that
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 1: person saying, well, that's that's not an option. So it's
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: not an option. G I'm not even thinking about that.
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: That's what I want to hear from that person because
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: now I know I can take my time with them,
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: and I can put my all incident and work hard
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: on their business as well, because I know that they're
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 1: going to go all the way through versus the person
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: who was just doing it because someone told them, oh,
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: your cookies are great, you know, or a huge difference
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: between that CEO, that business owner mindset versus just you
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: know what entrepreneur mindset is different? Well, you know, the
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: COVID has really changed online business because people now will
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: order immediately, you know, And so that's when you get
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 1: into the dry eyes the ship. Who's your primary shipper?
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: How do you build the cost into your overall pricing?
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 1: Now we We just talked about the person who has
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: the great idea. Like you said, people dance when they
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: eat their little pie. Girl, you need the lord first.
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: That's a good, good, good pie right there. Now we've
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: got a person who has the business. You know, they
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: you know, they were hit by COVID and they trying
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: to get a business loan or they're trying to do
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 1: a financial model. Let's talk about that person. How do
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 1: you communicate with that person there? Yeah? Sure, I mean
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 1: we we go right back to you know, the name
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 1: of the course starts smaller in bid you know, um
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: for people in that situation, you can't ain't start off
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: a bit, you know, And there's nothing wrong with starting
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: off small. We let people learn at all the time
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 1: because that's how we started. You start off what you got.
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: If you're wanting to make it work, you start off
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 1: with what you got. Start off small, you start selling
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 1: you know, here and there, you get your product out there.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: That's the main point, because the money will come. We
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: always let to know the money will come later on.
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 1: But the most important thing is to perfect your skills
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: right now. Are you able to be a salesperson? You know,
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: that's also important. If you can't sell your product, what
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 1: good is it? So we we we teach people the
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: skills that they need on the back and at the beginning,
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: so so when they do get the money required, whatever
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 1: way it takes them too, they'll be ready for that.
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 1: So there's always something to do. There's never no reason
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 1: to stand still. And that's that's very important. Just because
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: you don't have the money does not mean that you
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 1: can't do the rest of the leg work. And there's
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 1: a lot you know that absolutely. I think that the
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: number one problem that people have in business. And I
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: had it too because I I open a comedy club
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 1: and didn't have a business plan. Nowhere, I just don't hear,
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 1: I'll sell this ticket. I didn't know about taxes. I
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: didn't know about the liquor tax. You know, I just
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: I just saw ten dollars and then realize what all
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 1: came out of that ten dollars. You know, employment and
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: hiring people come out of that ten dollar taxes. You
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 1: gotta pay admission taxes for the tickets I sold the door,
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 1: The liquor sales came out of that ten dollars kept
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 1: getting smaller and smaller, and then and that's what that's
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: what we see. We just see that that that that
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: dollar amount. So when you when you when you were talking,
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 1: because you have a number of successful e books and
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: selling I think like a CEO Baker's Edition and things
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 1: like that. With these books available or they're available on
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 1: Amazon worth these are e books available right now. No,
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 1: they're on our website, UM robbing jen Mars dot com
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 1: um and you can also get to that from our
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: Instagram too. And so the e book is a layout,
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: it's a blueprint written for you what tons of examples
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: in there because you know, real life examples, because we're
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: not just the people you know who are just going
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: to getting business jargon. You know business names, um, you
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 1: know market analysis and things like that that goes off
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 1: for over people's heads, right, we really want to break
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 1: this thing down for you. For that person who've never
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: seen business, who's never been a part of business. And
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 1: that's a lot of our people, that's a lot of
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: African Americans that we have this knack and talent, right
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: and we're born with these gifts. We can cook, we
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: can big, we can so we can do all of
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: these things. But there's no um, there was no visual
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: for them to see the business plan to see the
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: business structure and layout. So they don't know these terms,
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: but they do know when somebody's saying, listen, you're you
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: have an eight inch poundcake, double layer frosting, right, and
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 1: you want selling it for and you think you, oh,
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 1: you're getting ten orders. No, you're getting ten orders a
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 1: day because you're selling it for twenty five hours. So
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 1: let's put this thing down and get this thing so
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 1: for fifty dollars to your profit to move to the
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 1: next level. It's just things like that that we make
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 1: it as fun as possible, as easy as possible. But
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 1: the point is we're trying to teach our people, you know,
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 1: business something that we didn't grow up saying. But those
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 1: of Gin and Robber. When you just said that about
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 1: the twenty five dollar cake, just as an example, that's
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 1: the big fear, you know, you know, I will people
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 1: buy thirty dollar cake when they buy thirty five it's
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 1: your value and also what's your business model, you know,
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 1: and how you promoted it, because that's really the key,
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 1: because people are at a break even business right there
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 1: because they don't know how to price, they don't look
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 1: at what their competitors are selling. That's also smart to
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 1: see what your competitors are selling. That cake ad that
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 1: don't know add that that croissant or that cupcake ad,
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 1: and so you know how to go about looking at
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: it from a long term perspective. Because when I look
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 1: at when I when I look at trying to talk
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 1: to entrepreneurs, I try to talk to them from a
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 1: from a natural standpoint. You said something very key to me.
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: I hate reading motivational books with people are not successful.
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 1: When people write there's a lot of people write books
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 1: like that. They're not successful. They write they motivate you.
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know where they motivate you from where? You know?
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 1: Do you have money in the bank? You know they
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