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Lewis T. Powell, Chef Edouardo Jordan, Janaye Ingram & Sheila Coates · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: not gonna happen the way you wanted to happen. Believe me,
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  Speaker 1: where I've just been hoping that I call it a
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  Speaker 1: young man. First of all, we're gonna go back to
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  Speaker 1: l A days. But then I was at uh very
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  Speaker 1: good friend of mine, Holly Robinson, Pete and the husband.
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  Speaker 1: Now you do a artistic event. They've been a charity
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  Speaker 1: racer in regards to her father. Uh, and I would
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  Speaker 1: attend it. Uh. Finally I finally showed up. I give
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  Speaker 1: money all the time. I finally showed up. And Uh,
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  Speaker 1: Hollywood A shocked that I showed up this ship actually
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  Speaker 1: with she hollo my name during the event, and I said, yes,
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  Speaker 1: she was actually stunned that I was there. But when
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  Speaker 1: you go out in public, you tend to meet people
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  Speaker 1: haven't seen a long time and also realized the impact
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  Speaker 1: that you made and just basic conversation. Just I guess
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  Speaker 1: you could say mentoring, and that's what I try to
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  Speaker 1: do when I meet individuals. My next guest is a
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  Speaker 1: celebrated celebrity Master Barber Award winning actor, director, producer, and screenwriter.
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  Speaker 1: Please welcome to Money Making Conversation. Louis T. Powe. Hey, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: how's everybody doing out there? My man Rushian. At first,
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  Speaker 1: I want to say Sean, you know, thank you for
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  Speaker 1: all that you do the philanthropy, philanthropy work. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you've really been a pillar in the community man, just
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  Speaker 1: stepping out there with graciousness and abundance man and sharing
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  Speaker 1: that wealth with everybody. Man. And that's just such a
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  Speaker 1: blessing to have people like you circumventing. Uh. Like I said,
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  Speaker 1: for the culture, and I want to say thank you.
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  Speaker 1: You've been a star supporter of Holly Robinson Pete Foundation. Man. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: I've seen you give on numerous occasions, Man, from your heart,
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  Speaker 1: and it's just a beautiful thing to see. Well, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the thing about it is that there's no reason that's
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  Speaker 1: to why I give. There's the there's the fact that
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  Speaker 1: I have took you and then um I've lived. I
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  Speaker 1: realized that I affect too many different people. I've started
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  Speaker 1: foundations for other friends of mind and HLP them pushing
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  Speaker 1: into the right direction. One of my big things and
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  Speaker 1: doing right now is for HBCUs your graduate of HBCU
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  Speaker 1: Howard University, Howard University, where I'm trying to become a
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  Speaker 1: media force along with Stephen A. Smith if to bring
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  Speaker 1: brand awareness to UH. It really kind of annoys me
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  Speaker 1: the treatment of hbc uses because it's always feel like
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  Speaker 1: the the words struggle it's tied to an HBCU schools
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  Speaker 1: always look like, you know, we ask it for a
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  Speaker 1: financial handout from the government and uh, and it tends
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  Speaker 1: to really muddy down the great institutions that HBCUs are.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk to us about that experience, because I'm on
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  Speaker 1: a lot of the HBCU stations, UH schools carried by
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  Speaker 1: show as well. It's serious actually one forty one at
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  Speaker 1: one forty two, Yeah, I mean, you know to that point,
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  Speaker 1: it is it is it's always like you said that,
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  Speaker 1: people always try to associate struggle with HBCUs. Right, you
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  Speaker 1: look at institutions like how it has been over I
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  Speaker 1: mean been around for over a hundred years and and
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  Speaker 1: as as well as other established black hbc us that
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  Speaker 1: don't give it get as much credit, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: mean struggling. I mean when you look at some of
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  Speaker 1: the most prominent doctors and black lawyers and accountants and
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  Speaker 1: physicis my mother's and Howard Graduate. You know, she came
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  Speaker 1: out in the sixth seven and she's an accountant. And
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  Speaker 1: when I look at her alumni being, you know, she's
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  Speaker 1: a Delta sigma THEATA, and it's like I look at
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  Speaker 1: a lot of her little events that they have, and
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  Speaker 1: it's like all these professionals, uh, financially well off people
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  Speaker 1: that have actually been sewing back into their communities in
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  Speaker 1: various different states all over the United State. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: excuse me, all over the United States. So when you
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  Speaker 1: look at the struggle that people say that the HBCUs have,
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  Speaker 1: I think that that's just the media putting out some
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  Speaker 1: kind of propaganda, you know, in a way to kind
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  Speaker 1: of shine the light off of excellence that we've always
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  Speaker 1: been bringing. Now also, you you mentioned your your mom,
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  Speaker 1: your dad. Now you're a master barber and your dad,
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  Speaker 1: let's talk about that relationship. You know, you kind of
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  Speaker 1: push you in that direction. Or it was just a
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  Speaker 1: natural you know, tell my father I do with my father. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was, it was it was kind of like a
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  Speaker 1: natural progression. You know in the Washington, d c. Area,
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  Speaker 1: barber shops have been around since nineteen sixty five. You know, Um,
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  Speaker 1: I have a younger brother. My younger brother, he has
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  Speaker 1: like four beauty and barber shows in the DC Maryland areas,
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  Speaker 1: and I know, our families probably know each other. So
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  Speaker 1: it's like because it's like we had one off Upstra Street, uh,
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  Speaker 1: Lamont Street and Georgia Avenue, Kennedy Street and Street Northeast.
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  Speaker 1: So it's like when I started off in Barbara and
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  Speaker 1: my father actually brought us. It's about seventeen barbers in
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  Speaker 1: my family. Yeah, it's it's a it's a good it's
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  Speaker 1: it's it's stretched in far, far and few between. Man.
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  Speaker 1: But I started off in the shop signing shoes and Nichols,
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  Speaker 1: Diames and corn sweeping guys backs off. Uh. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I was a little kid when the guy would jump
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  Speaker 1: off the chair and and if he didn't want to
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  Speaker 1: tip me, man, I'll sweep you all the way till
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  Speaker 1: you got out the door. I would embarrass you because
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  Speaker 1: you know, to tip me. Man. It was it was cool,
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  Speaker 1: it was cool, but it was it was a progression
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  Speaker 1: where you know, I jumped off into that space. And
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  Speaker 1: by the time I was about thirteen, I remember the
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  Speaker 1: first headcut. I really kind of just gaffled and was
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  Speaker 1: my cousin Glenn Johnson. Uh, my father came home and
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  Speaker 1: he came out of the Uh, he came out of
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  Speaker 1: this little room in the basement and it looked at
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  Speaker 1: it and he was like, I didn't know you wanted
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  Speaker 1: to grab the tools yet, I see you need some work.
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  Speaker 1: I can't let moments. Yeah, well, you know, being you,
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  Speaker 1: you know you talk about your dad being a barber.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's that's that's the core being entrepreneur. You know,
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  Speaker 1: he's taking the talent. Said, look, as long as I
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  Speaker 1: got these sealss, I can make money somewhere. You know
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  Speaker 1: that that really I remember when I left IBM and
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  Speaker 1: as to pursue my career as a stand up comic,
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  Speaker 1: I always felt that no matter what, unlike an actor
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  Speaker 1: I had, that an actor has to wait on an
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  Speaker 1: opportunity as a stand up As long as I can
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  Speaker 1: tell jokes, I can get on stage and make me
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  Speaker 1: some money. And it was it was really really empowered
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  Speaker 1: me a lot in my career. If I would say
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  Speaker 1: that I was an actor just waiting on the opportunity
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  Speaker 1: to versus, Hey, you just let me on that stage,
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  Speaker 1: let me stay, give me fifteen minutes, You're gonna write
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  Speaker 1: me a check. And so that that really uh that
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  Speaker 1: even though you into the entertainment because you have that
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  Speaker 1: skill set, doesn't it give you a really uh an
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  Speaker 1: unbridled about uh confidence that most of what you can
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  Speaker 1: still exist. Yeah, because that's one of the reasons why
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  Speaker 1: I created padlock Man as longer. On the entrepreneurial business side,
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  Speaker 1: it was one of those things where, you know, I've
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  Speaker 1: always worked as an independent you know, when I worked
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  Speaker 1: in music, you know, I pushed the record to billboard
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  Speaker 1: shots out of my living room. You know, it was
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  Speaker 1: uh when I was at the space of when I
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  Speaker 1: my barbering business, it was like, you know, I cut
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  Speaker 1: numerous celebrities fifty cents outcast Dwyane Wade, uh and it
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  Speaker 1: was like one of those things. I built my business accordingly,
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  Speaker 1: so each one of them worked together, and I find
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  Speaker 1: when I looked at padlock Man, it was it was
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  Speaker 1: just another etching, that etching that space. You know. My
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  Speaker 1: first two films I saw independently, and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, well, I can't I create a pilot myself.
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  Speaker 1: Why can't I go out and take this pilot chop it,
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  Speaker 1: and why can't I figure out the distribution and financing
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  Speaker 1: myself also to take that to the next level, which
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  Speaker 1: in which in return can incorporate me as an actor
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  Speaker 1: as a director and as a score, you know, for
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  Speaker 1: for music. And then on top of that, it's like
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  Speaker 1: I want to be in the lane to try to
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  Speaker 1: create more opportunities not just for myself but people outside
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  Speaker 1: of me. And when you start creating that ecosystem as
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  Speaker 1: an entrepreneur, obviously you know that all of it pays
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  Speaker 1: dividends man backwards and forward. So it really is amazing
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  Speaker 1: when you talk about you know, I always tell people
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  Speaker 1: and even in this conversation is when I'm talking to you,
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  Speaker 1: and it's it's about understanding your opportunities. Now, how does
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  Speaker 1: the social media, how does brand marketing play a role?
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  Speaker 1: And how do you get the word out that also
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  Speaker 1: you can give out your handles that. Yeah, brand marketing
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  Speaker 1: plays a big part. I mean, you know, in this
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  Speaker 1: day and time, we live in technology flows, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I mean back when I first started, it was like
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  Speaker 1: the bab Shop was the information super Highway. But now
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  Speaker 1: we look at Instagram, Facebook and Twitter and you know,
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  Speaker 1: and all these different avenues where we actually can't share
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  Speaker 1: our gifts with the world. And I think it's one
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  Speaker 1: of those things finding your audience, finding your niche, and
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  Speaker 1: then building upon that niche of the people that actually
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  Speaker 1: support you and starting the steam roll effect to turn
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  Speaker 1: that over and over again to grow your audience more
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  Speaker 1: because I feel like sometimes what I look at a
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  Speaker 1: lot of times nowadays is people stretch themselves too thin
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  Speaker 1: instead of saying, you know what if I can find
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  Speaker 1: a core of one thousand people or five hundred people, man,
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  Speaker 1: it will support me. You know, one would I'd rather
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  Speaker 1: have a thousand people to support me a hundred percent
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  Speaker 1: or what I had rather have a thousand people only
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  Speaker 1: support me ten percent or five thousand people only support
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  Speaker 1: me one percent. You know, I'd rather find that initial audience,
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  Speaker 1: cater to them, keep building that steam roll effect to
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  Speaker 1: build my brand, build my business. And as I move along,
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  Speaker 1: I know one thing, relationships network opens up wider. And
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  Speaker 1: then on top of that, like I said, people become
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  Speaker 1: more fans and you have more advocates man to create
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  Speaker 1: more substantial business. Yeah. Well, you know the thing about
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  Speaker 1: it is when you look at the business that you're in,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you know you mentioned celebrity names that you
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  Speaker 1: does that help most most because you know you're in
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  Speaker 1: an intimate relationship when you're cutting their hair and then
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  Speaker 1: you're also or an actor also director, producer. How does
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  Speaker 1: that How does that you know, how does that talk
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  Speaker 1: to us about balance? Yeah? You know what, That's one
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  Speaker 1: of the things I've always kind of pride of myself,
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  Speaker 1: and because I feel like, like going back to the entrepreneur,
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  Speaker 1: every business that you do, no matter what it is,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's a reflection of you. So you know, I'll
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  Speaker 1: give you a prime example. I went up to Cut
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  Speaker 1: fifty one time for Bloomberg Business Week, right and I
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  Speaker 1: walked in. I would always wear suits, come in with
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  Speaker 1: a doctor brief, you know what I mean. So I
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  Speaker 1: walked in, I would get there about thirty forty five
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  Speaker 1: minutes earlier. A lot of times they thought I was
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  Speaker 1: fifties manager. They're like, oh, what does this gool Mr
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  Speaker 1: Powell done? Like I look, I'm I'm the barber. But
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  Speaker 1: at the same time, that reflection when when I first
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  Speaker 1: started off in the barbering business, I would always pdf
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  Speaker 1: my my invoices to all of the companies because I
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  Speaker 1: was like, you know what, if I ever get a
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  Speaker 1: chance to run across them again, they were look and say, oh,
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  Speaker 1: well this guy he's a director. To oh he's a
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  Speaker 1: he's a writer, and he's an actor. But I remember
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  Speaker 1: when he worked as a barber. That guy was so professional.
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  Speaker 1: He pdf this invoice. He was always on time, he
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  Speaker 1: was intelligent, he was articulate. You know. The setting the
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  Speaker 1: stage so I get ready to cross that threshold in
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  Speaker 1: the future on any other than deva deva and entertainment,
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  Speaker 1: especially within the celebrity space. Is you know what, let
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  Speaker 1: me hear what this guy has to say. Let me
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  Speaker 1: take his call. Why because I set the stage absolutely. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: You know, as we wrapped this interview up. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we all you're not close to leaving this earth. We
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  Speaker 1: always have these journeys that we're trying to. Uh. What's
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  Speaker 1: the future. What's the future? Mr Pow Let me tell
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  Speaker 1: you the future for me is you all are going
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  Speaker 1: to see Dynamite limited series on HBO from Padlockman. I'm
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  Speaker 1: building a production company, an ecosystem for distribution. We're going
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  Speaker 1: to create an ecosystem for UH to incubate talent from
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  Speaker 1: animators to writers, directors, producers, all in the house. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And on top of that, it's like I just want
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  Speaker 1: to build a blessing like my man Rashan here and
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  Speaker 1: be able to give back to the people man to
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  Speaker 1: deserve it. Man and just to be able to try
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  Speaker 1: to create a synergy man of goodness, man and just
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  Speaker 1: shared love, wealth, intelligence and health. Well, it was great
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  Speaker 1: seeing you again live and studio. So notice you have
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  Speaker 1: a home now you know you got my contact information
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  Speaker 1: and so just keep us a post abreast of the steps.
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  Speaker 1: Anything you're doing. This none related to the project. You know,
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  Speaker 1: like fences, you might want to give us that cover
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  Speaker 1: of boss Man. Put the posting on our social part
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  Speaker 1: of your brand. It's part of being recognized for your excellence.
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  Speaker 1: And again, thank you for coming on Money Making Conversation.
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  Speaker 1: Oh man, Thank you again with Sean. It was a
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  Speaker 1: pleasure being here and everybody out there. You can catch
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  Speaker 1: me on my handles at Louis T. Powle that's on Instagram,
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  Speaker 1: on Facebook. Appreciate you, Appreciate your teammates. We're coming right
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  Speaker 1: next guest. He's an owner executive chef as means food
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  Speaker 1: of several very popular restaurants. He was born and raised
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  Speaker 1: in St. Petersburg, Florida, and attended college at the University
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  Speaker 1: of Florida. That means he's he's the Gator. He's he's
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  Speaker 1: the Gator. Okay, all right, sec okay cool. After graduating
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  Speaker 1: with a dual degree in business administration and sports management,
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  Speaker 1: he decided to enroll in culinary school. Okay, now that's
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: a that's a switch. Now, please working. He's here to
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: tell his story and all the success he's had over
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: the years since he's graduated with that culinary degree. Please
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: welcome to Money Making Conversation. Ed warddo Jordan's thank you
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: for having me, my man? Oh pretty good? Where you
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Where are you at right now? Where are you calling from?
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: Right now? I'm in Seattle, Washington. I'm home before I'm
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: headed to work, Seattle, Washington. Now, I've been to Seattle
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: a couple of times. As you do stand up comedy.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: I went up there way back in the day, did
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: some jokes up there. I stopped in there when I
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: was going to Vancouver for a cruiminess. So but I'm
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: gonna tell you something. Let's let's talk a little bit
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: about you before we get to this. This, this menu,
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: that that that that really and I'm already told I'm
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: gonna just tell you this, ed WARDO. Um, I'm you're
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: gonna see me before the year out brother, that you're
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: gonna see I'm letting everybody know you're gonna find out
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: why why I'm gonna go up there with my wife's
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: she's already she's already signed off. She's gonna be coming
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: up there with you. Got to get to day. Do
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: you have a chef table at your restaurants and we
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: will make a table before you there. You go, okay, cool,
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: Then let's talk about the beginning because I talked about, uh,
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: we talked about the degrees and the business administration and
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: that still that still helps you out now because you're
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: you're you know, your your owner, your entrepreneur, so that
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: degree in the business administration does help you out. Then
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: you went into sports management. How did the whole culinary
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: part of your life start to rise to the top. Well,
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: you know, I honestly, I started with food at the
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: age of nine. Um. You know, food has always been
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: um an intimate part of like, uh, my experience growing up. Um.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: You know, when I was nine years old, my mom
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: put me in the kitchen because she noticed that I
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: had an interest for food, because I was always asking
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: my grandmother questions. My grandmother a Southerner, She's originally from
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: kro Georgia, and you know, her specialty was cooking to
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: go lavish mills for the family and friends to come
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: over and hang out her at her house. Um, you know,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: for family unions, after church, you know, all the holidays.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: It was all about grandma. And so you know, I
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: took an interest into foods then and there, and I
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: guess that kind of you know, played a role in
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: my life later on, when I was decided on the
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: real direction that I wanted to go in on my
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: true passion. Um. So it was all about like that
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: that foundation with mom and grandmother of like hospitality and food,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Mom showing me around the kitchen, my mom giving me
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: my first cookbook as probably like the age of Pan
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: or eleven, I don't remember the exact time period. Um.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: The question what the question that will pop out is
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: that you said, it's just nine. Why didn't you immediately
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: go into that direction? Why did you go to oh man? Um?
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: You know it was it was kind of like, you know,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: the reality is, Um, you know, my mom and my
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: dad wanted me to go to college. Was the first
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: person in my family to go to college. And we're
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: talking about extended family too. Um. And so that mission
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: was to make sure that I, you know, get an education,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: also get a degree that it's gonna send me in
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: the path that they thought and believe it's gonna be
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: great for me and you know, become a doctor, become
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: a lawyer, become a sports agent or something that dictated
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: high pain, well established job with benefits, etcetera. So, Um,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: their mission was just point me in the right direction,
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: and cooking was definitely not the direction. They assumed that
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: I should be going in because it's gonna be real.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: You know, you've got a lot of cooks out there,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: but don't have a lot of chiefs of color out there.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Feller exactly. And even the reality is, you know, um
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: the quote in their world is a very hard world.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're working, you know, thirteen fourteen hours a day, um,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: not getting paid the highest wages and um, you know,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: dollar for dollar hour per hour, you're definitely working way
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: more than most doctors and most lawyers for you know,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: far less. So they saw, you know, me going to
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: college as a as a better direction for me, and
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: they definitely encouraged me, like, you know, follow my dreams
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: and everything, like cook enjoy it. You'll become a doctor,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: and then one day you can own your own restaurant
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: while you're a doctor. Right kind of thing. Okay, Now,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: so we're with Florida having a good time. That's big
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: football powerhouse, basketball powerhouse. So you so you then then
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: the cooking really is what you want to do. You
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: you've satisfied their expectation, their dreams. I always tell people,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: you can't report degree, So I love it. I love
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: the fact my degree is a mathmatics. You can't. They
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: can't come in and go, you know something, that degree after,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: we're gonna take that degree. After, we're gonna take you
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: the way from No, you can't do that. You can't
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: do it. Why don't that degree? He's that wall And
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: you say, I'm out. We're good. We're good. Okay, I
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: don't care what that college loan is. We're good, We're good.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: And so so the beauty of what you at right
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: now is that I love this conversation because it talks
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: about defining your path. It talks about understanding that I
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: can I can accomplish many things, but all those are
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: things that I really want to do. And so cooking
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: is what you really wanted to do. And so I was,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: here's the thing that we want to talk about, because
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: climbing the ladder to be a chef, humbleness, low pay,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: long hours again, homeleness. You know, sometimes you're being bullied
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: because people have power over you and you have to
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: be able to navigate that. And then you're a person
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: of color, so there's a lot of roquestions. Then you stigmatize, Yeah,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: you stigmatize, you know what what, especially if you want
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: to go outside of what they think you can do,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So, so just talk about
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: that journey a little bit there. Yeah, I mean it
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: was a it was a it was a hard, very strenuous,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: humbling journey. You know. I ended up going to culinary school, um,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: after graduating from the University of Florida. So I was
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: a little bit older than most people in culinary school.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: I think it was like five years old. UM, So
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: I'm looking like an elder year old. UM. But I
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: was stremely focused and and I realized, like in culinary
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: school that was a reality check, you know, it was
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: we probably had ten percent of people of color there,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: and out of that ten percent, probably five percent graduated.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Of that five percent that graduated, two percent ended up
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: finding a decent job. And out of that two percent,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: you got me the one percent that is still remaining
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: that I know of. Um. And so that was pretty
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: much my my journey in my path because as I
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: ended up going, you know, to get you know, distinguished
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: jobs that distinguished locations. I ended up becoming an intern
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: or apprenticeship at the French Laundry and Napple Valley, you know,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: one of the most prestigious restaurants in the in the
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: in the world, I should say, but definitely in this country. Um.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: You know that was that was that was the stepping
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: stone to my career. But at that at the same time,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: I realized that, you know, I was again of that organization.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: You know, it wasn't many people of color there. And
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: as I progressed in my career, you know, I had
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: to humble myself more because I was in the fine
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: dining world. And as you move up in that ladder
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: of cuisine, the style of cuisine, you know, the level
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: of restaurants, you'll realize that that present is trinkles down
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: more and more with people of color, women, minorities of etcetera. Um.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: And the reality check was that, you know, it was
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: a white chef's world for me, absolutely running them. And
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: that's a that's an honest statement to talk about, you know,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: not not because you know, because of the fact that
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: the reality is is we don't know what goes on
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: behind closed doors, and that's what can't you go You
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: see food being brought out and even then people complaining
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: and sometimes that's when a lot of for some reason
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: chefs always come to my table. You know, I guess
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: because I just love food. They go, you like your
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: real good go. Yeah, it's fine, that's fine, and I
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: will send food back now if I don't like it,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: I said, hey, dude, I'm sorry, it's just not working
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: for me to do that work for me to pay
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: for Absolutely give them absolutely. Now let's talk about because
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: I wanted to get that part of the story out,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: that part of the journey out, because we want to
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: talk about the uniqueness of your success story. And it didn't.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: It continues to grow. Explain everybody. The James Beard Award,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: oh man, So you know, think about the Emmies and
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: the oscars UM and the James Beard is just as
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: equal for the culinary world UM as those prestigious awards. UM.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: It's it's the foundation one started, you know, to recognize
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: the culinary arts world, chefs and restaurant tours, um industry
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: movements and shakers by distinguishing them with once a year
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: honoring the best of the best. And you know, I'm
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: I can say I'm fairly blessed with the fact. Come on,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: I talked to him. Tell us what you got man
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: to with two distinguished awards in one year, which is
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: unheard of. You know, for one for one minority. To
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Um achieved that award in one year, it's it's a
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: feat on his own. But to to achieve two recognitions
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: for Best Chef um Northwest and Best New Restaurant in
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: the Country James for um Um June Baby, it's you
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: know that it which is mind blowing. It was out
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: of the universe. It was unheard of, you know, the
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: first time that ever has happened. You know, I have
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: a lot of I have a lot of first in
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: my in my in my career, and I and I
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: strived and pride myself on being first. I was the
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: first black chef ever to grate the cover of Food
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: and Wine magazine at Best New Chef two thousand and sixteen.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: You know that that's that's pretty huge. You think about
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: at least some of the culinary um dignitaries that have
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: have walked walked around here. You got you know, you
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: got Marcus Samuson Clark. You know, you've got some very
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: distinguished black chefs that have done great things that have
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: not ever made it to that cover of that magazine.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: And that's now, that was a big honor, and that
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: was a big, big piece in the start of of
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: people recognizing and and and realizing the talent that I have.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: I printed out this menu. I came in here and
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: let you know I love what you do. Keep doing
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: what you're doing. You will see me this year. Uh,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Samantha will reach out to you. Gonna it's gonna be
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: on the weekend. I'm gonna come up there. We're gonna
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: have a good time. We're gonna laugh, man, and uh,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna eat and we're gonna tell stories. And I'm
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: gonna support your bread and congratulations for packing a glass
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: ceiling and uh, and I'm gonna keep supporting you man,
• 26:34
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• 26:36
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• 28:56
  Speaker 1: are you? Did I get out of that? Did I
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: say a lot about you that you did? You did?
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: And sometimes I still when I hear that, I'm like, really,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: I did that? Okay, you know you really you know,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: I have a general tendency just uh. I felt when
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: I was reading your bio that you're a grinder in
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: other words, you know, you just you accomplished task. You're
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: not a person that sits back and look at your
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: your past efforts because you're always moving forward. In general,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: because of that, you tend to not realize the greatness
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: on the path that you are. The journey that you
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: create is pretty impressive. My friend, Well, thank you, And
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: I think you're right about that. It is keeping my
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: nose down to the grindstone and just continuing to push
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: forward and um finding new ways to be impactful. So
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: hearing you know, being reminded of the path that that
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: I've created is always um, it's always inspiring, even for myself,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: and just you know, says a lot about the journey. Um,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: when you're committed to something and committed to doing good.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: You know, it's really interesting when I when I hear
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: your brs because I hear a humble first, I hear
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: a humble person that I'm communicating with, and it's almost
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: um when I hear that humbleness, and almost doesn't surprise
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: you that that. You know, we all always go back
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: to college, and I was just I was just in college, Okay.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: I was trying to get an education, trying to get
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: sometimes trying to get to the next party, trying to
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: get past that grade, just trying to get there. And
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: then I looked twenty years thirty years later, I go, wow,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: that's that's a lot. That's a lot going on in
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: your life for Sean. What what stands out the most
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: in your career so far? Because it's not stopping, I
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: know that. Yeah, I mean there are so many things
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: and moments. Um, I think if I had to stay
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: you know, my work right now is is really impressive
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: and not to diminish it, but I do think the
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: high point for me and something that I'm still really
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: really proud of is planning the Women's March UM. And
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: that for me was something that I never I didn't
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: go into it envisioning that I would be making history
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: UM or envisioning that the turnout would be what it was.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: I kind of went in because I was passionate about
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: creating space for people UM to raise their grievances and
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: and that was, you know, I was. I was committed
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: to the cause of justice and ensuring that you know,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: again UM, all of the people who were saying that
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: they were going to come, We're going to come to Washington,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: DC and have UM have an opportunity to have their
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: collective voices heard. And it was something where if I
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: would have known what I was doing when when I
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: was asked, like, will you come out with this, I
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: probably would have said no because I would have been afraid. UM.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: I would have been afraid that I was going to SAIL.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: I would have been afraid of all of the many
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: things that could have gone wrong. Logistics overwhelming. It is.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: It is overwhelming, and I don't think people really understand
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: the complexities that are involved UM. And maybe they do,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: because you know, I had Prior to that march, I
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: had planned the fiftieth anniversary the March on Washington, and
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: I was younger. Um, I was a newer face in DC.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, people knew me, but you know, I had
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: worked for Reverend Sharpton, and people just saw me as
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: someone who works for Reverend Sharpton and never understood maybe
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: the skills and talents that I had. UM. And so
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: I remember planning the fiftieth anniversary of the March on
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Washington and some of the seniors and an elder saying
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: to me, you know, listen, baby girl, hand me this
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: march because I don't know that you you know, it's
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: a lot, and it's it's probably too much for you
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: to handle. And and I said no. I mean, you know,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: I was clear that first of all, Reverend Sharks that
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: had entrusted me with with planning that march and leading
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: that effort um, and you know, I didn't want to
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: disappoint him. So I said, no, we got it, um.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: And it made a lot of people sort of stand
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: up and look at me and say, oh, okay, she
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: does she can do this, um, but never once and
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: planning that fiftieth anniversary of the march on Washington. Did
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: anyone ever say to me do you have a permit? Like,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: do you know what you're doing? Outside of the elder
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: saying you know, this is a lot and you probably
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: need some help. Um. Whereas with the march, the Women's March,
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: us having a permit became you know, it became front
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: page news of like the Women's Marches happening, but they
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: don't even have a permit, um, and and folks don't
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: understand like what the permitting processes. I had done it
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: a lot, and so for me it was like, Okay,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: I know this process, and I know what we're gonna
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: have to go through, and I know what it takes
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: to get a permit. But it became sort of a spectacle,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: and I think um overcoming all of the naysayers, people
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: who said the Women's March is not going to happen
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: because they don't have a permit. The Women's March, you know,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: is it's gonna it's gonna flop. It's you know, people
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: won't show up. All of the things that the naysayers
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: were saying. That does come across you know, the you know,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: the whole you know, I go all the way back
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: to the million man march. You know, you know that
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: that was the ultimate nay sayer that uh that why
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: would they come and what was the general purpose? And
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: so but it is, you know, all you do, you
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: you you you put the tools in place. That's that's
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: what you did. And then and then they came. Let's
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: let's walk through the process of you know, because you know,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: you kind of get away about it, the buses that
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: are coming, the hotels that are being booked up, the
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: airlines that are going to have a difficulty coming in
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: and being you know, you start getting a little signs
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: you know that, Okay, something's happening here. And so when
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: did that tingle really run up your back on? My god,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: it's happening. It's really really happening. I mean, I think
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: it sort of happened along the way. So when when
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: we planned the Women's March collectively, um, you know, there
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: were there were a lot of moving pieces and um,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: but I really owned the piece that was what people
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: showed up and experienced specifically in DC, and then with
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: touchpoints and connections with all of them marches across the
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: country and so like you know, helping folks with logistics
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: and different parts of the country, but it happened. We
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: started planning two months before the march happened, and in
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: those two months you also had four holidays. You had Thanksgiving, Christmas,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: New Year's Eve, and King Day, um, and so a
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: lot of people were taking off enjoying vacations. And to
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: be honest, I actually, you know, I did take a
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: vacation even in the midst of all of the march's
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: planning UM, and that was because of the experience that
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: I had had doing it. But yeah, but a lot
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: of it was, you know, a lot of it was ongoing.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: So when I signed on, it was like, Okay, a
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: hundred thousand people are going to show up to this march.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: And that was really through a Facebook post. So facebook post,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: I mean it's kind of like, yeah, you say you're
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: gonna come, but are you really going to come? And
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: then as we started to get bus numbers and as
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: we started to get you know, flight numbers, I think
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: it really really didn't hit me until maybe the week
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: of the march. Quite frankly, let's talk about your your
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: national partnership. Let's go, because I don't want to get
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: off the phone without explaining exactly you went into detail
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: different organization. Is it. Are you in a position where
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: people reach out to you or are you reach out
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: to them to create these partnerships? How exactly does that
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: work for air B and B. Generally it is people
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: reaching out to us. I mean, but I think that
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: there are opportunities where we I will reach out to
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: you know, an organization or UM a leader and say
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: we want to engage you for a specific thing. But
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: generally it is lots of organizations reaching out to me
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: and to us as a company and wanting to work
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: with us. And I think we are a brand that
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: is I would say there are a lot of people
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: who know about um UM. Generally people are interested because
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: it's you know, it's a younger brand. The company was
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: founded in two thousand and eight, so we're just barely
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: eleven years old. But um our name has become sort
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: of a noun um in terms of like when you're
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: sharing your your house, it's like, oh, I'm gonna Airbnb.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm staying at an Airbnb, And even if
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: it's not legitimately an Airbnb. I think that we we
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: have become sort of the Kleenex, if you will, the
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Kleenex version of home Sharing and and and that's a
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: phenomenal thing, UM to have a company so young that
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: that that's able to become part of the lexicon that is,
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: you know, synonymous with with home sharing. So UM, it's
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: it's really amazing to have that, And I think it
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: creates an appetite for people to say, we want to
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: work with you, we want to find out more about
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: what you're doing. And and then at the same time,
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: I think that there are things that people don't necessarily
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: under to stand about our business UM and and so
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: for example, we have UH experiences, which you mentioned, are
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: the local activities that people can do, and I think
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: that that's a newer product that people are still just
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: learning about or just figuring out. UM. I speak often
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: at conferences and different events, and was just at one
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: UM this past weekend in New Orleans and home sharing.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people know, but then I say,
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: you know, how many of you have ever heard of
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Airbnb experiences and the hands are are significantly fewer UM
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: and so yeah, I think it's there's an opportunity there.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: And so in that instance, I might say we need
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: to do more with you know, ex community or with
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: X leader to ensure that people are knowing about Airbnb
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: experiences because you know, quite frankly, you don't have to
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: travel to do them. If you want to host one,
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: you don't need a home to host one in. So
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: if you're in a city where there are short term
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: rental regulations but you still want to flex your entrepreneurial muscle,
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: there's a way for you to do that through Airbnb
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: experiences and it doesn't cost you anything. It gives you
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: an audience of millions of people that your your product
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: is showing up in front of um and it's a
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: it's an easy way again to start a business if
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: you've had an idea about a business, or to really
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: profile your business. And it's like it's like free marketing.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: You know, it's free marketing to people who are traveling
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: to your city or people who live in your city
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: who want to see and do something different than what
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: they're normally doing. They're they're not trying to go to
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: the churches or to that home on a weekend. It's
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: prof ums Ingram, I want to thank you for coming
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: on my show. You're amazing now, I know in the
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: end here that's part of the conversation. I'd love to
• 40:53
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• 40:55
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• 40:58
  Speaker 1: I always always the first of you, always to get
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: people ways that they can start motivating and planning and
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: seeing new opportunities. And that whole the airbnb experiences. I
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: think it's something that's not being spoken of a lot
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: because it's all about home sharing. That's that's that's true.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: That's where you cut your teeth. The brain is cut
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: your teeth on that. But I know that from through
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: social media, through planning, that whole process is you're talking
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: about is the next way of great success with airbnb
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: and the fact that you can come in and market
• 41:29
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• 41:32
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• 41:35
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  Speaker 1: a resume and in Missouri City, Texas, where I'm from Houston, Texas,
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  Speaker 1: I'm very familiar with Missouri City, Texas. Now you did
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: the branding of the city of the city Missouri City,
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: so explain to everyone. And I want to start there
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: because that's because Missouri City, Texas is like a suburb
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: of Houston. Is a very influent, affluent community, very diverse community.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: Diverse community is south of Houston. And when I read that,
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: I went, wow, that's really really cool. The talk to
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: the process of how you can approach to this is
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: a city. It's just a major city here, and I
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: mean a booming city. And how does that how to
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: breakdown the steps of a branding um, showing leadership and
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: being able to get the word out exactly well, you know,
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: everything I think is about relationships. So I met the
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: city manager coming in doing a leadership conference for him
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: through a good friend of mine named Anita cas Stile
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: and Anthony. After I did the leadership conference, had so
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: many of his key people like his fire chief and
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: his assistant manager and that person who ran his police
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: department say, you know, this is something new we've never
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: heard just before. We need to have her come back.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: They were in the process of trying to distinguish themselves
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: from what is this sugar Land, So sugar Land gets
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: a lot more notoriety, but they wanted to find out
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: how people would know about them. And so my three
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: step process for branding their leadership team still is applicable
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: for branding a city. And so I said, well, what
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: are you known for? And more importantly, what do you
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: want to be known for? And then on top of that,
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: what can you deliver? And they couldn't answer those questions,
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: Like everybody has a mission statement, right, you go into
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: these cities and and they tell you we want to
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: be the place where you live and grow. And but
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, when I come to
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: your city, what do you want me to know? It's
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: not about the logo, it's not about a tagline. It's
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: about the experience that I'm going to get when I
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: go into Missouri City. And that's when they realized they
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: didn't have that. And we're talking to move Missouri City, Texas,
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: which is a suburb right outside of Houston, Texas. It's
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: important because I grew up near Missouri City. It was
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: kind of like a city that, uh, you know, football power,
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: and and it kind of like went from just just
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: a regular little small community to an actual city, and
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: then they got pushed all the way to the to
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: the fifty nine side of the freeway. It grew. It
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: kind of like it started growing and just blossoming. And
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: you're right, sugar Land but has always been Imperial Sugar
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: always had that brand relationship and people knew exactly what
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: it was. But miss City still was like, Okay, yeah,
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: we're just here, and they called themselves most city. You know. Um,
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: they had some bad reputation problems for a little bit,
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: but they're really a friendly city. And so when we
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: decided to take on the branding, I did this whole
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: concept with them that I do with people, but I
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: put it for the city and I had them tell
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: me what is it that they can deliver? And I
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: had all of their key uh stakeholders involved. I had
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: a lot of their employees involved, and I got back
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: a lot of feedback and they realized that there were
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: three things that they were known for. The key was, though,
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: do you appreciate those three things? Because you always think
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: I should be like Houston, or I should be more
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: like sugar Land. But if I'm a person coming to
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: the city, there are some things that I want to
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: know about this city that I know I can get
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: and it was amazing because then I tested it. After
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: they told me what the three attributes were, I went
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: around the city to see and I'm not joking. This
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: was probably one of the friendliest cities I've ever been at.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: So they told me they wanted to be known for
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: their friendliness, for their ability to go above and beyond,
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: and for their ability to be a diverse family community. Right.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: So when they said these things, I said, with then
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: you gotta be this. This is a true story. I
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: got a ticket in Missouri City going thirty five and
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: a thirty miles. Look are you serious? You guys pulled
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: me over. I got pulled over. I went through the
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: process of paying for the ticket instead of calling the
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: police chief, which I was thinking about doing since I
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: had met him, because I wanted to see how they
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: operated in every little area of you know, the city.
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: So I go to this place to pay for the ticket.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: This lady couldn't be nicer. When I came in the door,
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: she said, good morning, how are you? How can I
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: help you? And I'm thinking, okay, this is definitely not
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: l a right, right, I come in. She I was
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: in the wrong, usual right, So she says to me,
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: you're in the wrong place. Um, but hold on a minute.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: Let me make a call for you and I'll find
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: out exactly where you need to go. She calls, She
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: calls the lady. She gives me the address she took.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: I was like, okay, maybe she knows I'm checking the
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: background at this place. So sweet. I go to the
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: next place. Before I could get in, HI, how are you.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: I was told to ask for hold on, let me
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: go get it for you. They were friendly, They went
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: above and beyond. This is what they told me that
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: they wanted. These ladies didn't know that I was the
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: branding person, and I was checking to see if the
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: information that they had shared with me was really what
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: they did. It was dead on. So I do this
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: whole thing. I go around a couple of places. I
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: go to some stores. I go I'm I'm checking because
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: I said, if you tell me this is who you are,
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: I should feel this from the people that are working
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: in your city. Long story short, I did that for
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: like maybe a week or so. I pull all of
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: the key stakeholders back together and I give them the
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: names and the places of the people who I had
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: interacted with. You guys are this city. The thing was
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: the city manager says to me, Oh, is that anything great?
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, now, if I'm a person
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: who's putting my family here, I don't want a family
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: friendly environment. So friendliness is important to me. If I'm
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: telling somebody that I have a diverse community and I'm
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: a business who was looking for diversity, this is the
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: place I need to be. Once they realize that these
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: are your attributes, let's start talking about them. That you
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: can't just YEA. So now in their community relations when
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: they do events, they you know, if you do a
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: city event, promote that it's going to be a friendly
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: event because you guys are going to be friendly. It's
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: going to be saying and diverse. They got it. So
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: now businesses can come there and realize I can come
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: here and it's gonna be safe. I can come here
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: and move my employees because it's going to be friendly.
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  Speaker 1: It's a family environment. It was so much fun to
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  Speaker 1: get them to see who they were, but more importantly
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  Speaker 1: that's what I do when I do cities. I'm about
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  Speaker 1: to brand them Volunteers of America, which is a huge organization. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: gonna give you? That's what I'm helping them down distinguished.
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  Speaker 1: What do you do that another nonprofit doesn't do? And
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  Speaker 1: what's uniquely you? So that's what branding is all about,
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  Speaker 1: is giving you that identity. Just like you know a
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  Speaker 1: Nike or anyone else. Everything is a brand. It's the
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  Speaker 1: experience and the perception that you want people to have
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  Speaker 1: when they encounter you. Yeah, it really has changed the game.
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  Speaker 1: I would tell people with the Muhammad Ali era, you know,
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  Speaker 1: people can just promote, they can talk, they can screen,
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  Speaker 1: you're part of the you're part of the cure as
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  Speaker 1: part of the problem. Yeah, but I love the fact
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  Speaker 1: that you use Muhammad Ali. I use him a lot
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  Speaker 1: because I say I am And it's not just me,
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  Speaker 1: It's are important. Mohammed Ali was the first to say,
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  Speaker 1: that's the power of understanding I am in your brand,
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  Speaker 1: the young kids, you tell yourself, you know, I am
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  Speaker 1: badest songs or whatever. You know, you become that, you
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  Speaker 1: start to embody that and then you have to act
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  Speaker 1: even branding himself as much as he was making a point.
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  Speaker 1: But in all of the time that he said that,
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  Speaker 1: of knowing that I am right, yeah, telling yourself great.
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