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Exclusive with Tom Homan Border Czar · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Border security was one of the top issues for so
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  Speaker 1: many Americans when it came to this past election and
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  Speaker 1: supporting Donald Trump. And if there's anywhere he has a
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  Speaker 1: mandated is in securing our border and also getting rid
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  Speaker 1: of the millions of legal immigrants are in this country. Well,
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  Speaker 1: the man who's in charge of the border, Tom Homan,
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  Speaker 1: has now set down with Senator Cruz and I to
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  Speaker 1: talk about where we are in.
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  Speaker 2: Securing that border.
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  Speaker 1: What are the major threats now, whether it be Fetnohl
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  Speaker 1: or terrorists that have already come into our country under
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  Speaker 1: the open border policy of Biden Harris. I want you
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  Speaker 1: to hear all that he had to say in this
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  Speaker 1: sit down.
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  Speaker 2: Take a listen. Well, Tom Homan is serving as President
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  Speaker 2: Trump's Borders Are. He is the former acting director of
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  Speaker 2: the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement and he has been
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  Speaker 2: borders Are since Trump resumed office as president. His formal title,
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  Speaker 2: which I like, is what White House Executive associates Director
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  Speaker 2: of Enforcement and Removal Operations. And to be clear, his
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  Speaker 2: job is to secure the border, keep US safe, and
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  Speaker 2: remove dangerous illegal aliens. He's doing a hell of a job. Tom.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Verdict.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks for having me so Let's.
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  Speaker 2: Start with just how are we doing. We're four months in,
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  Speaker 2: almost five months into the Trump presidency. How are we doing?
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  Speaker 2: Tell us what has happened since President Trump became president again?
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  Speaker 2: On the border?
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  Speaker 3: Well, President Trump today, I'm talking to today Santa Cruz.
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  Speaker 3: We have the most secure border in the history of
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  Speaker 3: this nation today and most secure board ever. I mean
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  Speaker 3: we even beat Trump forty five. Well, we hand the
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  Speaker 3: Bide administration most secure boarder ever ahead of that time. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but the data is even better now. And let me
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  Speaker 3: give you a few numbers, just a few numbers. Under
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  Speaker 3: Biden administration, we were dealing with ten eleven thousan even
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  Speaker 3: a few times fifteen thousand aliens today yesterday was two
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  Speaker 3: hundred and eleven. We went from thirteen fourteen thousand to
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  Speaker 3: two hundred and eleven.
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  Speaker 2: And that's across the entire southwest border.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, gotaways under Biden an average gotaway day and under
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  Speaker 3: Biden was eighteen hundred plus eighteen hundred plus. What was
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  Speaker 3: the got aways yesterday? Thirty nine?
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: And then the most impressive number the first hundred days
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  Speaker 3: on President Trump compared to the first at the same
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  Speaker 3: time period last year under Biden. Biden released over one
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  Speaker 3: hundred and eighty four thousand illegal animates in this country
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  Speaker 3: the Trump administration one there was nine releases, but for
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  Speaker 3: more material witnesses. As you know, we want them come
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  Speaker 3: here to testify in the cartol troal so form. We
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  Speaker 3: want to command. Four came across the border in such
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  Speaker 3: bad shape that we had to call an ambulans and
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  Speaker 3: take care of the medical needs. We had allowment insided
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  Speaker 3: do medical treatment, but we had one one discretionary release
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  Speaker 3: compaired at one hundred and eighty four thousand released under
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  Speaker 3: the same time period in biden most Secure Border Historistination
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  Speaker 3: Interior Enforcement Offerings ICE's arrest of three times more criminals
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  Speaker 3: one of them Biden did during the same time period.
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  Speaker 3: We got more to rest, We got many more to rest.
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  Speaker 3: Let's but they're already hitting the ball out of park
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  Speaker 3: and we're gonna keep doing it. We need to do
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  Speaker 3: more of it, and we're hoping for a budget real
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  Speaker 3: soon here so we can step up efforts there. But
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  Speaker 3: it's it's game changing. President Trump's been a game changer,
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  Speaker 3: and the men and win vice and men women border
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  Speaker 3: stood up taking on the task and cousin Trump did
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  Speaker 3: in seven weeks, but Joe Biden couldn't or wouldn't do
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  Speaker 3: in four years.
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  Speaker 2: My favorite line from from President Trump's most recent State
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  Speaker 2: of the Union address it is when he said, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Joe Biden stood here a year ago and said that
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  Speaker 2: he couldn't secure the border without new legislation passing Congress.
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  Speaker 2: And then Trump said, it turns out we didn't need
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  Speaker 2: new legislation. We just needed a new president. And that's
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  Speaker 2: powerfully true. So let me ask just just a simple
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  Speaker 2: question for those Look, you're you're an immigration expert, but
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  Speaker 2: for someone at home, how did the numbers drop so precipitously?
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  Speaker 2: What specifically are y'all doing differently than what Joe Biden,
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  Speaker 2: Kamala Harris did.
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  Speaker 3: The biggest thing we've done is President's executive orders that
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  Speaker 3: we're a game changer, remain in Mexico a game changer.
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  Speaker 3: I have the third SAIF Country agreements a game changer,
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  Speaker 3: and finally ending catcher release. People know, you come to
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  Speaker 3: a border, now you're not being released, and we just
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  Speaker 3: follow the law because, as you know, under federal statue,
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  Speaker 3: an ailien arrives at our border without proper documentation to
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  Speaker 3: enter the language is you shall be detained now, maybe
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  Speaker 3: not thinking about it, not problem shall and that's exactly
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  Speaker 3: why we're doing. Those three things by themselves have been
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  Speaker 3: a major game changer, and all three of them were
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  Speaker 3: executive orders by President.
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  Speaker 1: Trump's But I want to talk to you real quick
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  Speaker 1: we turn off the lights, and we sleep in relative safety.
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  Speaker 1: That's if CJ dot org. You mentioned budget a moment
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  Speaker 1: ago and how important it is to have the budget
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  Speaker 1: for you guys to continue your job.
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  Speaker 2: Explain for everyone listening.
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  Speaker 1: Is that referencing that the big beautiful bill and what
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  Speaker 1: is in there that you need so much to continue
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  Speaker 1: to do your job at the border.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we want to make the border secure permanently, so
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  Speaker 3: we need more infrastructure, right, so we need to finish
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  Speaker 3: building a wall. Now, let's be clear. Every place they
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  Speaker 3: build a border barrier, illegal migrations went down, illegal drug
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  Speaker 3: flow went down, But most important, walls saved lives. Women
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  Speaker 3: and children can't get over that wall, the most vulnerable,
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  Speaker 3: so they go to a place, Well there's not a
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  Speaker 3: wall on. What's waiting on them the men and women
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  Speaker 3: of the Border patrol first of all, So it's ball
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  Speaker 3: saves lives. So we need to finish the border barrier.
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  Speaker 3: We need money to finish the technology within the existing
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  Speaker 3: border wall, because not only did Present buy in stop
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  Speaker 3: the construction of the wall, he stopped adding the technology
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  Speaker 3: in that smart wall. Technology that lets us know how
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  Speaker 3: someone climbs that wall, touch this wall, dig on under
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  Speaker 3: that wall. Technology where borbitual agents in the middle of
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  Speaker 3: nowhere can get on the radio and use the wall
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  Speaker 3: as a repeater to talk to other agents for help.
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  Speaker 3: There are some places on the southern border where they
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  Speaker 3: lose all communications, so all that technology needs to be done.
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  Speaker 3: More technology yet and portive entries to make sure no
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  Speaker 3: Ventano's coming through. And as far as the entire enforcement,
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  Speaker 3: we need beds. Right now, we got about fifty two
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  Speaker 3: thousand people in detention. We're funder that thirty four thousand
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  Speaker 3: ice is already in the hole. We need about one
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  Speaker 3: hundred thousand beds because everybody we arrest needs a bet.
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  Speaker 3: We just don't rest somebody in New York City and
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  Speaker 3: put them on a plane leave. We got to detaining
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  Speaker 3: for several days or several weeks to get travel doctrines,
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  Speaker 3: get flight arrangements, flight finances. So we need bets. So
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  Speaker 3: we need. You know, so this budget, that depending budget
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  Speaker 3: right now, the big beautiful Bill will give us some
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  Speaker 3: money fi those beds. They're going to give us thousands
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  Speaker 3: of more borbitual license, thousands more ICE agents. It's going
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  Speaker 3: to give ICE a budget to bring in more contracts up.
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  Speaker 3: What I mean by that badges and guns shouldn't be
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  Speaker 3: sitting at a desk doing reports of processing. They shouldn't
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  Speaker 3: be sitting at a desk doing travel documents and all
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  Speaker 3: the all the administrative duties that occurred within ICE. You
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  Speaker 3: can have a contractor sitting there doing that work. Give
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  Speaker 3: that badging gun, get them out on the street to
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  Speaker 3: arrest the public safety thrusts and national security threats. So
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  Speaker 3: we needed the money to. Like I said, we're doing
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  Speaker 3: more than Biden did, but Biden wasn't doing anything. We
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  Speaker 3: need to do ten times more than buying too, not
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  Speaker 3: three times more. And I'll leave you with this. We
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  Speaker 3: got seven hundred thousand illegal Alians in this country with
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  Speaker 3: a criminal conviction walking the streets this country. We got
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  Speaker 3: to get them, We got to get it quickly. We
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  Speaker 3: got one point four man illegal aliens who do have
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  Speaker 3: du process a great taxpayer expense, were ordered removed by
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  Speaker 3: a federal judge and didn't leave, and they become fusitives.
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  Speaker 3: We got a lot of work to do and we
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  Speaker 3: need money to do more. We're doing good, but more
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  Speaker 3: money we have, the more we.
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  Speaker 2: Can do well. And Ben, I'll say this that Congress,
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  Speaker 2: we will get this Reconciliation bill passed. It's gonna take time,
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  Speaker 2: it's gonna be bumpy, but we'll get it done. And
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  Speaker 2: when we get it done, we're gonna have funding to
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  Speaker 2: build the wall. We're gonna have funding for technology on
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  Speaker 2: the wall. We're gonna have funding for more border patrol agents.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna have funding for more ice agents. We're gonna
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  Speaker 2: have funding for more detention beds. We're gonna have funding
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  Speaker 2: for more fixed wing and rotary wing aircraft. We're gonna
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  Speaker 2: have funding for more drones and more infrared and technology.
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  Speaker 2: We are stepping in now. It's gonna take a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of time to get the bill across the finish line,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm confident we'll do it. And I will say
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  Speaker 2: it really underscores something we've said on Verdict many times,
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  Speaker 2: which is the most important factor in securing the border.
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  Speaker 2: And this is what Tom said just a minute ago.
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  Speaker 2: It is a policy decision, and it is a decision
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  Speaker 2: what happens when you apprehend an illegal immigrant. And if
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  Speaker 2: the answer is you put them on a plane and
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  Speaker 2: you fly them back home. They all have cell phones.
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  Speaker 2: They pick up their phones and they call home and
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  Speaker 2: they say, don't come. They're not letting you stay. And
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  Speaker 2: the flip side is true if when you you apprehend them,
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  Speaker 2: you let them go. You say what city do you
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  Speaker 2: want to go to? And you put them on a plane,
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  Speaker 2: you put them on a bus, and you let them
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  Speaker 2: go in every city in America, which is what Joe
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  Speaker 2: Biden was doing. Again, they all have phones. They pick
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  Speaker 2: up the phone, they call their friends and family, and
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  Speaker 2: the numbers skyrocket. And so when President Trump left office
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  Speaker 2: the first time, he had produced the lowest rate of
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  Speaker 2: illegal immigration in forty five years. That's what Joe Biden inherited.
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  Speaker 2: It immediately skyrocketed to the worst rate of illegal immigration
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  Speaker 2: in history. Joe Biden allowed twelve million of the illegal
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  Speaker 2: immigrants to come into this country. And regular listeners of
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  Speaker 2: Verdict will recall I predicted. I said, we will see
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  Speaker 2: the numbers plummet, and it won't take a year, it
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  Speaker 2: won't even take six months. It will happen immediately because
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  Speaker 2: on day one, catch and release is going to end
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  Speaker 2: and we're going to see the numbers plummet. Now, all
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  Speaker 2: that being said, Tom, let me ask you honestly, I
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  Speaker 2: will admit I predicted loudly that the numbers would plummet.
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  Speaker 2: I'll confess I didn't think they'd drop over ninety nine percent.
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  Speaker 2: Are you I'm surprised at just how massive the success is.
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  Speaker 2: Are Are you a little bit surprised.
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  Speaker 3: Or no, I'm not surprised for all the success. I'm
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  Speaker 3: surprised how fast that happened. When President Trump, when he
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  Speaker 3: called me, asked me to be the borders. Our course,
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  Speaker 3: I didn't has day came back and the first meeting
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  Speaker 3: who he had, he asked me, how long would it
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  Speaker 3: take you down the secure the border? I says, sir,
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  Speaker 3: I need I need at least one hundred and twenty days.
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  Speaker 3: He says, well, they kid a ninety I said, sir,
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  Speaker 3: I'll to respect one hundred and twenty days, even pushing
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  Speaker 3: that we did this in seven weeks. Seven weeks numbers
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  Speaker 3: already down.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: And You're exactly right. Everything you said was right. But
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  Speaker 3: I want to add one thing. When Joe Biden opened
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  Speaker 3: that border up. He's the first president in the history
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  Speaker 3: of this nation who came into office and unsecured a
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  Speaker 3: border on purpose. This wasn't mismanagement, this wasn't incompetence. He
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  Speaker 3: ran on open borders, and that's exactly what he did.
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  Speaker 3: You know, so when you tell the whole world enter
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  Speaker 3: this country legally, don't worry about it. We're going to
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  Speaker 3: release you anyways. And when you've got a secretary of
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  Speaker 3: ma orkist on ice, you can't arrest somebody for being
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  Speaker 3: here illegally unless they got a serious criminal conviction. The
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  Speaker 3: whole world's going to come. You can cross the border illegally.
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  Speaker 3: You get released in twenty four hours. We won't give
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  Speaker 3: you a free plane ticket to the city of your choice.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to put you in a free hotel room.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to give you three meals a day, We're
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  Speaker 3: going to give you free medical attention, and guess what,
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  Speaker 3: hang out for one hundred and twenty days. We're going
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  Speaker 3: to give you a work offficization. The very reason they
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  Speaker 3: came here not because of asylum, because they wanted a job.
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  Speaker 3: So Biden did what he did on purpose and President
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  Speaker 3: Trump came back in seven weeks. Again seven weeks did
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  Speaker 3: what Joe Biden couldn't do or wouldn't do.
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  Speaker 2: Repeat the numbers you said about how many illegals are
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  Speaker 2: in the US right now who have criminal convictions. And
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  Speaker 2: to be clear, these are convictions for crimes other than
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  Speaker 2: crossing illegally into the country. Every illegal has committed that crime.
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  Speaker 2: But how many have convictions for murder, for rape, for
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  Speaker 2: other crimes other than crossing the border illegally.
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  Speaker 3: Just under seven hundred thousand.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that is a stunning number. And what you're saying,
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  Speaker 2: and I agree with you, is that Joe Biden deliberately
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  Speaker 2: chose we're going to leave murderers here, We're going to
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  Speaker 2: leave rapists in America, We're going to leave child molesters
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  Speaker 2: in America. We're not going to send ice to arrest them,
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  Speaker 2: We're not going to pick them up, we're not going
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  Speaker 2: to deport them. That they put partisan politics above protecting
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  Speaker 2: American families, about protecting our kids.
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  Speaker 3: And that's why I woke up four years pissed off
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  Speaker 3: every morning. President Trump when he called me, asked me
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  Speaker 3: to come back, and he said to me, we've been
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  Speaker 3: even bitching about it for four years, want to come
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  Speaker 3: back and fix it? And I did because I knew
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  Speaker 3: every morning I wake up, And Senator you know this
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  Speaker 3: just as well as I do. I knew every morning
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  Speaker 3: I woke up. How many children died acrossing the borders
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  Speaker 3: till last night. Yeah, how many women got sexually assaulted,
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  Speaker 3: how many people on Terrace Rosster's got across the border.
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  Speaker 3: How many women and children were sex trafficking this country?
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  Speaker 3: How many billions of dollars in the car tells make
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  Speaker 3: how many Americans died in the last twenty four hour
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  Speaker 3: from Fetanah coming across the open border? For four years?
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  Speaker 3: I was pissed off. President Trump came back, like I said,
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  Speaker 3: in seven weeks, we had a border down ninety percent
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  Speaker 3: in seven weeks. So you know, if you said it
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  Speaker 3: was a matter of president, the matter of enforce the law,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I'll tell you it's in a cruise. And
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  Speaker 3: you know, every time I see in the meeting, every
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  Speaker 3: time I see you in the meeting, I call you out.
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  Speaker 3: I call you out because you've been a tip of
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  Speaker 3: the speer on this thing. I appreciate your working this.
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  Speaker 3: You're from Texas, you know, And God bless Governor Abbit
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  Speaker 3: and Governor Abbitt did he was more of a Secretary
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  Speaker 3: of Homeland Security moral it's ever been to wherever thought
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  Speaker 3: of being so God blessed day of Texas. They took
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  Speaker 3: the first rail on this and again, I can't thank
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  Speaker 3: you enough. Every time I see I call you out,
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  Speaker 3: thank you for being the tip of the spear. I
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  Speaker 3: see you everywhere wanting the secure border, and you're fighting
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  Speaker 3: hard for me, and you're fighting hard for the men
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  Speaker 3: and women the border tow You're fighting hard for the
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  Speaker 3: men and women of Ice. I love each and every
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  Speaker 3: one of those men to put their life on line
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  Speaker 3: for this country every day, men and women, and I
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  Speaker 3: appreciate your fight for them. You've had their sixth and
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  Speaker 3: day one and I love you for it. I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Tom, let me thank you for that. I appreciate that,
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  Speaker 2: and I appreciate your passion and commitment. You're showing up
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  Speaker 2: and you said something that I think is really important
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  Speaker 2: for our listeners to understand. You and President Trump right
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  Speaker 2: now are quite literally saving lives. You are saving lives.
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  Speaker 2: There are Americans, and there are significant number of Americans
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  Speaker 2: who are alive today because a violent criminal did not
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  Speaker 2: cross the border, was not released, and didn't murder them.
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  Speaker 2: There are women who have not been raped because you've
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  Speaker 2: stopped the Biden practice of releasing rapists. There are children,
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  Speaker 2: and the number of children who haven't been physically and
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  Speaker 2: sexually assaulted by human traffickers. It is already I think,
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  Speaker 2: well into the thousands. And I want you to think
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  Speaker 2: about that. Thousands of little girls, thousands of little boys
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  Speaker 2: have not been violently, repeatedly raped by human traffickers. Why.
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  Speaker 2: Because President Trump came in and because you've been the
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  Speaker 2: borders are implementing it and secured the border, and those
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  Speaker 2: kids are no longer being trafficked. That is a profound
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  Speaker 2: legacy in just four or five months.
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  Speaker 3: And then we go one step further. Trump asked me
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  Speaker 3: to do three things. Security border, run the large largest
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  Speaker 3: deportation offeras I have ever seen, and find these children,
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: and buy an administration. Over half a million children were
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: smuggling in this country, separated from their family, smoggling this
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: country and put in the hands of sponsors, many unvettered sponsors.
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: The last administration lost track of three hundred thousand of them.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: Doesn't Trump's committed to finding as many as you can
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: We've already found over seventy five hundred of them. Wow,
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: someone were for free, safe with families. Some were perfectly
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: safe and some weren't. Example just there for yes, say
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: a fourteen year old little girl already to sex traffic
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: was pregnant living with two men who trafficking. There whether
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: they're going to prison, and we're helping that little girl.
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: So we're going to rescue everyone of these little girls
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: and make sure that they're safe. And so many of
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: them are going to be okay with family members, they
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: just didn't respond to followings or so forth. But many,
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: I guarantee, I've been doing this for over forty years.
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: Many of them are in sex trafficking. Many of them
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: are in forced labor, living a life of hell every day.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: We're committed to find every one of these little children
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: and making sure they're safe.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Tom, you mentioned finding them all. Let's talk about sanctuary
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: cities for a second. It's very clear Democrats are not
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: backing off of that. How dangerous is the policy and
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: who is being harbored in these cities that are refusing
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: to work with you guys? Will there be accountability? Are
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: they harboring MS thirteen gang members? And domestic terrorists, foreign terrorists, uh,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: those that are putting the Fetnoel out in society. How
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: dangerous are these cities?
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: They're the dangerous for everybody because in a sanctuary city meets,
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: I don't have access to the jail or rust a
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: bad guy public safety threat in the safety and security
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: of the jail. Were they alien safe, the officers safe,
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: on the public safe. When sanctuary cities knowingly leased a
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: public safety a threat back in the street, it certainly
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: puts the community at risk. It even puts an alien
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: at risk because anything can happen during the street arrest
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: and great, it puts your officers that great arrest because
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: now we've got to arrest a criminal alien public safety
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: threat on his turf. We has access to who knows
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: what weapons. It's very dangerous and natural host sanctuary cities accountable.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: Its PAM binding has already fought lawsuits against several were
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: we're working with DJ now again. We want we want
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: where's that right? Where's that where's that line? When do
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: you cross that line? You can sit there and watch
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: ice do your job. Because here's what irritates me the most.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: I don't care what party you're in. If you're an
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: elected mayor, elect a city council person, or elected governor.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: Your number one responsibility it's the safety and security of
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: your neighborhoods, your communities. ICE has been clear from the
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: beginning with President Trump, we're going to prioritize public safety
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: threats and national security threats. Why will you not help
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: us make your community safer? There's no downside on that.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: And the sanctuary cities want to argue what we're a
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: sanctuary city because we want victims and witnesses of crime,
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: if they're illegally the United States, to feel comfortable coming
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: to the law enforcement without fear of working with ICE.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: That is a bunch of crap. Victims and witnesses of
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: crime don't want the bad guy in the neighborhood either.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: And as far as the illegal alien community, I'll say this,
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: despite being here illegally, many of them are god fearing
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: family people. They don't want a preser in they neighborhood either.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: They don't want someone convicted DUI ten times driving to
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: their neighborhood either. So you know, if you go to
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: the immigrant community and ask them one simple question, would
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: you rather have ICE operating in the jail or in
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: your community. What do you think they're going to say,
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: They're going to be say to jail, so sanctuarous cities
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: will be held accountable. Matter of fact, we're reissuing the
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: ICE detainer. We just changed the new ICE detainer. We're
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: letting them black and white. Let them know this person
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: is a designated terrorist, this person is a designated returned felon.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: We're gonna let them know exactly who do detaining based
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: on biographic and biometric information and see what they do.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: Are they going to violate Relation and Riley Act, Then
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: we'll go out to prosecution. Now they're going to know
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: at least a terrorist, then we're going to go out
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: to prosecution. So it's about to get a lot tougher
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: and it's the right thing to do.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Well, And let me ask you, how worried are you
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: that they're a terrorists who came across the southern border
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: in the last four years, that are out there and
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: that are planning acts of terror in the United States?
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: Right now, I'm convinced we got over two million known guideways.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: Why did two million people pay more to get away?
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: They pay the car tells a lot more money to
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: escape apprehension and get to New York's Icnago wherever. Why
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: don't they pay less? Why would you pay more to
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: get away because you don't want to be vetted, you
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: don't want a two finger printed. It's just scared to
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: hell off. Every American scares of hell on me. Somebody's
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: are going to be, you know, child traffickers. Some of
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: these are Karen Fatinal and some of these are going
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: to be people from the terrorort sponsored country. Under Joe Biden,
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: we wrest over four hundred people on terras wass's come
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: in the Southwest border. If you don't think a single
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: one of the two main guidaways didn't come from a
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: country sponsor and terror didn't come here to do us harm,
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: then you just crazy as you know it was what
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: was it? Just a few months ago we arrested eight
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: that we're planting a terrorist attack, a Russian type terrorist
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: atack in the United States. Lucky intelliens. The community call
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: him on some chad and we are able to arrest them.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: But we're not perfect. Intelligence community isn't perfect. They weren't
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: perfect on Afghanistan. They weren't perfect on a lot of things.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: So God help us. I think they're here. There's intelligent
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: port stander here. We know where some aren't being monitored,
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: but we don't know where others are. So that scares
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: the hell on me.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Well, And as you know, Chris Ray, the former director
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: of the FBI, every few months would come to Congress
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: and he would do everything but set off an alarm
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: and bang a drum to say we are at major
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: risk of a terrorist attack from the open Bordersmas and
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Hezblah have declared jahads on America. As you know, the
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: border patrol under Joe Biden was advised beyond on the
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: lookout for Hamas has Blun Palestinian Islamic Jehad terrorists coming
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: across the southern border. And one of the things, Tommy
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: you said that was really important. Of the twelve million
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: illegal immigrants that came under Joe Biden, roughly two million
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: of those were god aways. That's by far the most
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: troubling of all those folks. The other ten million are
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: people who are apprehended, and apprehended in many instances is
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: the wrong term, because as you know, and I've spent
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: a lot of time down on the southern border, I
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: almost always go out on midnight patrol with the border
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: patrol agents when I'm there apprehended doesn't even characterize what
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: they were doing. Most nights, people would cross the border
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: and they'd go look for a border patrol agent and
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: actively turn themselves in because the result would be that
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: Joe Biden would say where do you want to go
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: and would fly them to wherever they wanted to be. Literally,
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: the Biden administration was the last mile of the human
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: trafficking network. But Tom, what you said is exactly right.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Those two million godaways are much more likely to be
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: violent criminals, much more likely to be murderers or rapist
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: or child molesters, much more likely to be MS thirteen
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: gang members, much more likely to be terrorists. And that's
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: the population that is most worrisome. And speaking of MS
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: thirteen gang members, just when I thought politics could not
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: get weirder, the Democrats have decided to go all in,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: making their central party platform be that we should admit
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: more illegal aliens, and in particular, we want more Venezuelan
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: gang members MS thirteen gang members here. And they decided
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: that Kilmar Abrego Garcia is their poster child for the
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Democrat party. Tom, how confident to tell us about Abrego Garcia.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: How confident are you that he's a gang member, that
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: he's a criminal.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: I'm very confident, and I've talked to the head of
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: Vice numerous times. People are understanding. So he got no
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: due process, Yes he did. He got due process from
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: two different federal judges who said he's in the United States,
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: a citizen OWL Salvador, and he gave up order of deportation.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: He had a great two process, a great tax bayer expense.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: On top of that, men went rice and they sent
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: those two plane loads of TDA and MS thirteen. Hundreds
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: and hundreds of hours were spent on every case. They
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: went to the criminal history, the immigration history, they went
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: to intelligence report, they went to confidential informant statements, they
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: went to wire taps, they went to a bunch of
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: stuff to to certify these people were members of TVA
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: and MS thirteen. So they got due process several times
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: Obrego Garcia's home, he's a citizen OWL Salvador. And for
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: those the Democrats said, well, they made a mistake. I
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: still say it was a mistake. It was an over
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: temporary oversecond. Here's the problem he had it withholding order.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: He had not returned to Al Salvador because he feared
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: death from the gang. Two things have changed since that
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: order was given. Number one, he's a designated terror, so
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: that with holding order has been set aside. Number two,
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: the gang he feared it no longer exists now Salvador,
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: because a great work BUCKHETI did there. So the circumstances
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: surround that with building order are no longer valid. And
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: here's what would happened. If somebody was to make this
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: guy return to the United States, he would be detained
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: and removed the next day. If not, tell Salador to
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: another country. He's not here, but as President Boukeley said,
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: he is a pre certified national of Al Salvador. He
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: is home. He is home. He is a certified administer
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: team member, not just by ice, by local police departments,
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: intelligence reports, immigration judges in the Counch of Al Salvador.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: Says his emistery team member, He's home is exactly where
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: he should be. This country, his wife, his neighborhood is
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: a lot safer because he's locked up.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: I want to go back to accountability for a second time,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: and I want to ask you there are a lot
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: of people that believe that there were laws that were
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: broken deliberately in the last administration. They knew they were
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: breaking the law. One of those would be former Homeland
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Security Secretary my orci is that you mentioned a moment ago.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Should he be criminally the prosecuted for his role in
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: the border crisis if it was as deliberate as it
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: now seems.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: Look, I think what he did was borderline trees in US.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: I'm not an attorney, I'm not a prosecutor. But what
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: he did, he did more damage to this country. Him
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: and the Biden administration. What they did to this country,
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: I can tell you when they opened that border up,
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: sex trafficking women show to increase tenfold. A record number
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: of migrants died making that journey, over four thousand. A
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: record number of Americans died from fatanah that come across
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: that open border. And it's just what he calls this
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: country and from a national securities perspective, because here's what
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: his orders were, process quick, release quick. They didn't care
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: about the crisis. They cared about the optics of the crisis.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: If there's no overcrowding, there's nothing to see here. So
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: border trades were processed as quick as they could and
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: releasing a quick as they could, and there's been several
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: instances would they release so quickly they have? The ice
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: can didn't come back and and it came back hot.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: Actually they already remember reased. They came back hot as
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: a non inspected terrorist. So yeah, he what he did
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: was unconsortable. What he did is in my opinion, borderline
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: trees and is he should be held accountable because a
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: lot of deaths occurred under his watch. And look at like,
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: like Sandra Cruz said a few minutes ago, right now,
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: ninety six percent decline and illegal immigration when ninety six
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: percent less people are coming, How many women aren't being raped,
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: How many children aren't dying crossing that border, How many
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: no inspected terrorists aren't getting in the country. How many
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: pounds of fatanyl is not getting the country? What are
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: you going to see on the President Trump's administration? Vaentanyl
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: deaths to decrease, sex trafficking with decrease, smuggling with decrease,
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: and no inspected terists. They got no open night anymore.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: Now that we've got the border secure, every single borders
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: religion is on the lying on patrol during his national
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: security duty under Joe Biden. It was an average most days,
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: an average seventy percent seven zero seventy percent of agents
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: were no longer on patrol. They were changing diapers, making
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: baby formula, making hospital runs. The last time. Aren't down there.
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: Before the election, I talked to hundreds of boarder players
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: and told me to hang on, hang on, changes coming.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: I really think pleasant Trump's going to win. But they
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: told me no, we're sick of being tour station. We're
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: sick of being uber drivers. We process and delivered these
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: people to the very same people who pay for their smuggling.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: They couldn't recruit. They couldn't people were quitting. They were
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: quitting before the even else well for retirement. They couldn't
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: read recruiting numbers. You know, last month, Ice, I'm excuse me,
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: Bord Patrol had the highest recruiting numbers and the history
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: of that agency just last month.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: That's fantastic. And look, I will say, Tom's not exaggerating
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: at all. Like when I would visit with Border Patrol
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: agents the frustration. Look, the men and women who sign
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: up for the Border Patrol, they do do so because
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: they're patriots. They do so because they love America. They
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: do so because they want to keep our communities and
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: our families and our kids safe, and they want to
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: be out on patrol. Look these that's what you sign
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: up in the job. And they were sitting there just
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: shuffling paperwork. They were processing and just running a revolving
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: door to try to release as many illegal immigrants as
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: fast as possible. That's what may ORC has looked viewed
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: as job is accelerate illegal immigration, not stop it, but
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: make it go more quickly. Let me ask you, Tom,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: you mentioned fentanyl. What do we know about the numbers
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: of fentanyl traffic over the first four months of the
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Trump administration.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: There's been a decrease, and I've got from three or
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: four different sources. The percentage of decrease is different from
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: every source. The problem is the CDC doesn't have good
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: metrics on fatanyl. But look across the country. You can
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: see the decrease in fatanyl. Fatanyl's being c's on the
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: southern border and the metrics and that's maybe something you
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: all to work on up there in the Senate. CDC
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: needs a track is more more accurately. Like I said,
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: you got you got a number of deaths reported by states,
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: you got number of death reported by CDC, none of
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: them match. So, but we do know there's been a reduction.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: You don't see you know, three hundred of people dying
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: every day from fatola like we did see right, We
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: know we don't have two, you know, nine to elevens
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: a week happening from kids dying from Fatanah. So I
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: don't have exact numbers, but we already see the effects
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: of a secure boarder.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: And Tom, let me ask you also, So, one of
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: the things we've talked about on this podcast. In twenty eighteen,
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: the Mexican drug cartels made roughly five hundred million dollars
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: from human trafficking. Last year, the drug cartels made over
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: thirteen billion dollars from human trafficking. That's a twenty six
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: hundred percent increase. Do we have any data yet? Do
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: you have any visibility on what has happened to the
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: drug cartel's revenue? Because one of the worst consequences of
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: what Biden's open border did is is it turned these vicious, murderous,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: transnational criminal organizations into incredibly wealthy powerhouses, and it put
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: huge resources in their pockets. Did do you have any
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: date on what's happened to their revenues.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: Well, one of the first best thing President Trump did
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: is designative terrorist organization because these cartells have killed more Americans. Yes,
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: every urance organization were combined. We knew that. That's why
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: there's so much buy on some Mexico. The last four
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: years cartels were fighting each other for control of the plausas.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: Why because they're making record amounts of money, smuggling people,
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: record amount of money and trafficking women, children, and the
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: record amount of money moving dope across that border. Now,
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: with the board secure, we're hitting them where it hurts.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: Are smugglings down, both drugs and people. Trafficking is down,
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: So we're hitting where it hurts. That's why the latest
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: intelligence force I see they're trying to produce and push
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: more fatanol into Asian European nations because their market here
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: in the United States has been so brutally attacked. I
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: wish what would happen is that Mexico would agree with
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: President Trump to let us help them take the cartels
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: and wipe them off the face ears because right now
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: they're like the police for cartel. They're in forty four
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: countries around the globe. They're like a fortune five hundred company.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: It's going to take the United States to take them on.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: Mexico's failed for decades to do it, and a lot
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: of mech show you know that military, police and government
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: rises are corrupt. I'll say this, a lot of the
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: corruption is force corruption. Because you're a police officer Mexo.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: You're making you know, four hundred dollars a month, but
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: the Mexican cartel comes up and obviously ten thousand look
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: the other way, and you're going to take it? Are
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: they going to kill you and your family? I think
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: Mexico will be a much safer and much prosper more
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: prosperous country if they let President Trump help them wipe
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: the cartels off the face of the ear.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Look, that is absolutely right. And let me underscore that point.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: A lot of people don't realize, particularly those on the left,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: that what Joe Biden the Democrats did, it wasn't just
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: horribly cruel to the American people, it was horribly cruel
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: to Mexican nationals in Mexico. Turning these vicious criminals into
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: the most powerful economic force in Mexico has increased the
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: murder rate, the crime rate, the kidnapping, rape rate. I
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  Speaker 2: visited with with a Mexican mayor of a town on
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  Speaker 2: the other side of the border. And I'm not going
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  Speaker 2: to say which mayor because he told me in confidence
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  Speaker 2: because he was afraid, but he said in his town
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  Speaker 2: they had had over three thousand disappearances, just people Mexican
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  Speaker 2: nationals living in Mexico who just ran a foul of
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  Speaker 2: the cartel and they just disappear, and they find mass
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  Speaker 2: graves and the suffering and murder and kidnapping that that
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  Speaker 2: has happened in Mexico because of the Democrats political decision
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  Speaker 2: I think was cruel and horrible. And Tom, you're exactly
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  Speaker 2: right that the US military can take out the cartels,
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  Speaker 2: and we've done it before in Columbus. President Eurebe asked
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  Speaker 2: the military to come in and take out the cartels
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  Speaker 2: in Columbia, and we came in and did that, and
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  Speaker 2: we could do it again and and and I do
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  Speaker 2: think it would be much better if the Mexican government
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  Speaker 2: invited us in it. It would have transformational impact within Mexico.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they say a lot of lives, like say, Lexing
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  Speaker 3: cartels have killed thousands of judges and prosecutors and journalists. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and citizens. So you know, I wish they. I wish
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  Speaker 3: they'd joined with President Trump, and that would be a
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  Speaker 3: game changer, Uh, for Mexico and the United States.
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  Speaker 2: All right, final question, we saw just this week that
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  Speaker 2: that New Jersey Democrat Congresswoman Lamonica mac Ivor was charged
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  Speaker 2: for assaulting law enforcement at an ICE facility. Uh, tell
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  Speaker 2: me tell us how important that is? And and and
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: what do you think about about the fact that that
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: charges were brought for assault? We saw during the Biden
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  Speaker 2: administration repeatedly, Uh, law enforcement, Customs, Border Patrol ICE agents
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: were subject to physical assault and no charges were brought.
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  Speaker 2: How important is it that these charges were brought?
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  Speaker 3: The Sun's a strong mentions is very important. It also
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  Speaker 3: proves I don't bluff. I'd said them the day inauguration.
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  Speaker 3: If you want to not support ICE, we'll shame mind you.
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  Speaker 3: But you have that right. If you want to protest
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: against ICE and to protest against Trump's policies, that's fine.
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  Speaker 3: If you want to watch ICE come in and clean
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  Speaker 3: your city up because you're a sanctuary city don't want
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: to help, you can do that too. But I said
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  Speaker 3: from day one, you can't cross that line. You can't
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  Speaker 3: cross the line on impediment. That's a felony. You can't
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: cross the line on noiling and harboring, concealing and they
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  Speaker 3: will go amas mice. That's a felony. You certainly can't
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  Speaker 3: commit criminal trespasses at our facilities, and for God's sake,
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: you can't put hands on our ice officers. And this
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: happened during the same time frame. The same week, I
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: went to Blue Mass in Washington, d C. And Remembrance
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: of the men and women in law enforce and put
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: their lives out line to this country every day. So
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: we spent a week just just just praising these men
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  Speaker 3: and women, talking to their families who also paid the
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: ultimate sacrifice. They lost the loved one forever. Children lost
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: their fathers and mothers, and mothers and fathers lost their
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  Speaker 3: sons and daughters. In the same week we're supposed to
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: be hot in law enforcement, you got you got some
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  Speaker 3: of the member Countress putting their hands in shoving an
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  Speaker 3: ice officer, which makes that facility very unsafe. And I'm
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: sick and tired of hearing what we have Congressional oversight responsibilities.
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  Speaker 3: There is a right way and wrong way to do it.
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  Speaker 3: You don't force your way in the facility. You don't
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  Speaker 3: put hands on an officer. There's we do oversight all
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  Speaker 3: the time, and what are they finding out as people
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: are getting tours in that facility that they got the
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: highest detention standards in the industry, and it puts every
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: every other uh uh detention center in jail in the
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: state of New Jersey, whether it is a county or state.
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  Speaker 3: It puts them to shame because our detention standards are
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: so high. So when you go and calls that kind
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: of practice, where we're trying to maintain a facility with
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: very dangerous people inside, we got to protect not only
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: the criminals, we got to protect the employees in the
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: city is on the outside. What she did was just horrendous.
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  Speaker 3: She put hands on the officer. Like they said for
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: four years, no one's above the law. You're damn right.
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  Speaker 3: They're not above the law, even members of Congress. The
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: president is above the law, but these are members of Congress.
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  Speaker 2: Look amen, and I will say, Tom, I've visited dozens
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  Speaker 2: of ICE facilities and CBP facilities. I've never found it
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: difficult to refrain from physical assault on an officer. Somehow,
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: that temptation was never there for me, and in fact,
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: for the opposite. It is my job to have their backs.
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  Speaker 2: That's a job I take incredibly seriously. And I just
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: want to say, Tom, you were a patriot, You were
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: a great American. We have roughly a million unique listeners
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: who listened to verdict, and I want to say, on
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: behalf of all of them, and on behalf of thirty
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  Speaker 2: one million Texans, thank you for what you are doing.
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  Speaker 2: You are keeping my children safer, and Tom, I am
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: grateful you are on that front line for us, and
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: you and President Trump are making a massive difference for
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: the entire country.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate that, but I'm not gonna take credit.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: Please give the things for your listeners. You see a
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: borbite relation, you see Ana, Yes, just say thank you,
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: because I cannot believe that we knew they're gonna take
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: hate as soon as President Something got back in. But
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: say thank you because these men and women, their mothers
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: and fathers too. They don't hang their heart on a
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: hook at home and you go to work. They see
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: a lot of terrible things. They put the life on
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: the line. At three o'clock this morning, when everybody is sleeping,
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: me and send her is sleeping at three am this morning,
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: there's borbit relations standing on a dirt trail someplace going
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: to take something on. They don't know if it's just
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: an illegal alien or heavily armed drug smunker. They're gonna
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: take it on in the nearest back of us, miles away.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: God bless the men and women of Barbatow, God best
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: the women of Ice, and God bless this great nation
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: we're taking it.
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  Speaker 2: Amen. Amen, do me a favor.
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