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ICC wants the Cuffs Thrown on Bibi, Rocket Ships w Elon & Bragg Ignores the Law Week In Review · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome in his verdict with Ted Cruz the week in Review,
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Speaker 1: Ben Ferguson with you, and we had a very busy
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Speaker 1: week with some top stories that maybe you miss well.
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Speaker 1: Let's start first with the shocking news that the ICC
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Speaker 1: wants to arrest Benjamin Net and Yahoo. We'll give you
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Speaker 1: the latest on this radical move by the ICC and
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Speaker 1: what it means moving forward and how the Trump administration
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Speaker 1: will respond. Also, Senator Cruz and Elon Musk, they were
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Speaker 1: together with President Trump watching this SpaceX launch. Senator Cruz
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Speaker 1: actually flew with President Trump on Trump Force one and
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Speaker 1: learned a lot about his cabinet and his administration. He'll
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Speaker 1: give you all those behind the scene details. It's really interesting.
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Speaker 1: And finally, Alvin Bragg going row get again, trying to
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Speaker 1: manipulate the courts into hitting pause on the Trump prosecution
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Speaker 1: for four years until after he leaves the presidency. We'll
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Speaker 1: give the details behind that. It is the Weekend Review
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Speaker 1: and it starts right now. Centaera. I want to pull
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Speaker 1: an audible real quick because I should have mentioned this earlier.
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Speaker 1: But as we were just talking about Israel, the ICC
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Speaker 1: issued an arrest warrant for Net and Yahoo and Gallant
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Speaker 1: and they also they're like, oh yeah, we threw in
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Speaker 1: a hamask guide too, so it looks like we're being
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Speaker 1: equal here. This is a shocking attack by the ICC
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Speaker 1: on net and Yahoo, and also one that makes it
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Speaker 1: very tough for him to travel more than likely the
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Speaker 1: way he needs to because of the threat of being arrested,
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Speaker 1: for example, if he is traveling to many parts of Europe.
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Speaker 2: Well, it is an absolute outrage and the ICC already
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Speaker 2: had very, very questionable legitimacy, but with this decision, the
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Speaker 2: International Criminal Court has just become a kangaroo court, and frankly,
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Speaker 2: that's not fair to kangaroos. I mean, I mean, it
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Speaker 2: is an absolute This is a a political act of
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Speaker 2: anti Israel hatred and anti Semitism that sadly infests so
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Speaker 2: many of our international institutions that that that just hate
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Speaker 2: Israel profoundly. And I believe the United States we should
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Speaker 2: impose sanctions on every individual involved in issuing this arrest warrant,
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Speaker 2: from the prosecutor to the judges, everyone involved. They should
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Speaker 2: be sanctioned by the United States government. We should also
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Speaker 2: make clear that we will sanction anyone who attempts to
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Speaker 2: enforce this arrest warrant. If you're a French prosecutor, be
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Speaker 2: prepared to have American sanctions put on you if you
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Speaker 2: try to enforce this this utterly lawless arrest warrant. And understand,
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Speaker 2: the reason that the ICC did this is because of
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Speaker 2: Joe Biden and Kamala Harris's incredible weakness. Listen, the ICC
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Speaker 2: has no jurisdiction over Israel. Israel is not a party
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Speaker 2: to the ic CC. It also has no jurisdiction over
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Speaker 2: the United States of America. And understand, this is a
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Speaker 2: threat not just against Israel, although it is very much that,
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Speaker 2: but this is a threat against America. This is a
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Speaker 2: threat against the people who hate America. Imagine these same
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Speaker 2: bigots who hate Israel how much they would love to
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Speaker 2: issue an arrest warrant for Donald Trump, or for the
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Speaker 2: Secretary of State or the Secretary of Defense of the
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Speaker 2: United States. And it is only because Joe Biden and
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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris are so weak that the ICC felt empowered
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Speaker 2: to issue this. It's not an accident that this came
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Speaker 2: out after the presidential election, but before Trump was sworn in.
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Speaker 2: That is when the enemies of Israel and the enemies
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Speaker 2: of America historically have done some of the worst actions
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Speaker 2: against the United States and against Israel. It is when
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Speaker 2: if you remember, at the end of Obama the last
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Speaker 2: time we were in this comparable moment, which is a
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Speaker 2: democratic administration was ending and Donald Trump was get ready
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Speaker 2: to be sworn in as president. That would have been
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Speaker 2: November and December of twenty sixteen, right after the election.
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Speaker 2: Obama was leaving. And remember what the Obama administration did.
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Speaker 2: They orchestrated UN Resolution two three three four, which is
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Speaker 2: one of the most shameful resolutions ever to be voted
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Speaker 2: on in the United Nations, and the Obama administration it.
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Speaker 2: This resolution denounced much of modern Israel as illegitimate and
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Speaker 2: illegally occupied. It denounced the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem as
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Speaker 2: illegitimate and illegally occupied. It denounced the Whaling Wall in
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Speaker 2: Jerusalem as illegally occupied and illegitimate. And what happened is
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Speaker 2: the Obama State Department orchestrated it, They got others to
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Speaker 2: push it, and they just stood back and abstained. And
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Speaker 2: I will tell you this week, I had a classified
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Speaker 2: briefing with Tony blink In the Secretary of State, and
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Speaker 2: I asked him very directly in that briefing. Is the
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Speaker 2: Biden administration going to do the same thing, Because last
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Speaker 2: time y'all did that, it profoundly hurt Israel. It was
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Speaker 2: used by the enemies of Israel to justify all sorts
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Speaker 2: of targeting against the people of Israel, and I'm very
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Speaker 2: concerned the Biden administration is going to try to orchestrate
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Speaker 2: something similar. At the United Nations, we had a vote
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Speaker 2: this week that actually the Biden administration blocked to their credit,
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Speaker 2: where the UN was trying to call for an immediate
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Speaker 2: cease fire of the war against Tamas, but they did
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Speaker 2: not include within it a demand that the hostages be released,
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Speaker 2: and the Biden administration vetoed it without the hostages being
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Speaker 2: released as part of the language. But I'm worried in
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Speaker 2: the next two months that they will try to do
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Speaker 2: something very similar to what happened in December of twenty
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Speaker 2: sixteen with two three thirty four. And I think that
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Speaker 2: this ICC arrest warrant is shamed. I also think the
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Speaker 2: incoming Trump administration is going to stand very strongly against
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Speaker 2: this absolutely disgraceful decision.
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Speaker 1: Thune came out and threatened the International Criminal Court with
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Speaker 1: sanctions if it doesn't drop the net and now who warrant
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Speaker 1: for rest? But he also called on Schumer to not
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Speaker 1: wait for the Republicans to get in charge to do
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Speaker 1: the right thing, and to do something now on this.
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Speaker 1: He said, if Majority Leader Schumer does not act, the
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Speaker 1: Senate Republicans majority will stand with our key ally Israel
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Speaker 1: and make this another supportive legislation a top priority in
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Speaker 1: the next Congress. Is there a chance that Schumer could
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Speaker 1: actually lead on this as Thum called on him to do,
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Speaker 1: and said, don't make us wait till January. Do the
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Speaker 1: right thing now for Israel.
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Speaker 2: I think the chances are virtually zero. So the House
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Speaker 2: has passed legislation to do exactly that, and Schumer has
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Speaker 2: refused to take it up the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.
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Speaker 2: We have had legislation before us from Jim rish who's
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Speaker 2: getting ready to be the Republican chairman of the Foreign
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Speaker 2: Relations Committee, to do exactly that, to sanction the ICC
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Speaker 2: for doing this, and the Democrats have refused to take
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Speaker 2: it up. It's basically shut down the Foreign Relations Committee
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Speaker 2: for the last six months because the Democrats have blocked
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Speaker 2: legislation standing up to the ICC. And look, this is
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Speaker 2: on the unfortunate reality that in today's Democrat Party there
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Speaker 2: is a pro Haamas faction of the Democrat Party. And
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Speaker 2: I don't think that as hyperbole. It is tragically the case.
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Speaker 2: They are the ones cheering. We just had votes this
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Speaker 2: week that Bernie Sanders pushed on the floor to cut
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Speaker 2: off weapons to Israel, to cut off thirty two thousand
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Speaker 2: tank rounds to Israel, cut off over fifty thousand mortar
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Speaker 2: cartridges to Israel, to cut off to cut off the
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Speaker 2: kits that are used to make precision bombs. Now understand
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Speaker 2: the argument of the leftist is that when Israel is
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Speaker 2: bombing Hamas Er Hesbelah, they accidentally have incidental civilian casualties.
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Speaker 2: So what is their response. Take away the ability to
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Speaker 2: have targeted smart bombs, so they can only drop dumb
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Speaker 2: bombs that they can't steer. The difference a precision bomb
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Speaker 2: you can direct it so you hit your target and
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Speaker 2: it's much less likely to have collateral damage. These leftists
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Speaker 2: hate Israel so much they want to say, no, let's
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Speaker 2: take away your ability to target your weapons, so we
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Speaker 2: increase the number of civilians killed. And nineteen Senate Democrats
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Speaker 2: voted to cut off Israel's funds that pro Hamas faction
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Speaker 2: of the Democrat Party. Not every Democrat in the House
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Speaker 2: and Senate is a member of it, but just about
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Speaker 2: every single Democrat is terrified of that faction. And it's
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Speaker 2: why Schumer look that the internal the internal notes from
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Speaker 2: Columbia University when Columbia was having the anti Semitic protest
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Speaker 2: and the leaders of Columbia were talking to Schumer, Schumer
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Speaker 2: told them, don't worry about it. The Democrat we don't care.
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Speaker 2: It's only the Republicans who care about this. Understand what
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Speaker 2: that admission was, and that was out of Schumer's own mouth,
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Speaker 2: that we the Democrats, don't care about violent anti Semites
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Speaker 2: terrorizing students in Columbia University and other universities, threatening Jewish students.
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Speaker 2: It's not a priority for them. Why because they're terrified
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Speaker 2: by the Prohamas faction of the party who supports the
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Speaker 2: radicals and the anti Semites. That is tragically where we are.
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Speaker 2: And so I'm going to predict we will take up
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Speaker 2: the legislation to sanction the ICC, and we will do
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Speaker 2: it early next year when we have a Republican Congress
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Speaker 2: and a Republican president. I don't even know that we'll
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Speaker 2: need that legislation, though, because I expect the Trump administration
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Speaker 2: to act unilatterly, I think there's ample authority under the
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Speaker 2: law for them to act. Even if the Democrats filibuster
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Speaker 2: legislation to sanction the ICC, I think the president will
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Speaker 2: have ample authority to act come January twenty.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 1: Want to hear the rest of this conversation, You can
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Speaker 1: go back and listen to the full podcast from earlier
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Speaker 1: this week.
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Speaker 3: Now onto story number two.
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Speaker 1: As we were watching it, or I was watching on
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Speaker 1: TV and many others were, I do have to say
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Speaker 1: one of the most fun parts for me of watching
10:16
Speaker 1: you know, Trump and you and everybody there is just
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Speaker 1: the boy boyhood excitement is and I say that in
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Speaker 1: the in the in the the most sincere and authentic
10:27
Speaker 1: way ever on the faces of everyone that was able
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Speaker 1: to watch us.
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Speaker 3: I don't care who you are, just getting.
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Speaker 1: To watch it and to see Elon's face and in
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Speaker 1: your face and President Trump's face and others that were
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Speaker 1: around you.
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Speaker 3: Guys.
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Speaker 1: I saw Haggarty there, for example. It was just the
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Speaker 1: moment of like, this is unbelievable.
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Speaker 2: Well, and it was traveling, so the starship itself traveled
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Speaker 2: halfway around the world, the booster separated. We saw the
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Speaker 2: booster separate, and initially the plan was that it was
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Speaker 2: going to go down and because by the robot arms
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Speaker 2: where it had been launched, and in fact it separates.
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Speaker 2: So the booster was attached to the starship for a
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Speaker 2: minute and a half and then it separated. And we
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Speaker 2: initially got the call catches a go, which we were
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Speaker 2: excited about because they only try to catch it if
11:15
Speaker 2: all the conditions are right, and so they were going
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Speaker 2: to catch the booster, and then they ended up altering
11:21
Speaker 2: the plan and not doing the catch, but having it
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Speaker 2: instead land in the Gulf of Mexico, and so the
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Speaker 2: conditions were slightly off and so they had it landed
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Speaker 2: the gulf. But Elon was really happy because it landed
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Speaker 2: in the golf but it did not explode. And last
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Speaker 2: time when it landed the golf, it did explode. And
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Speaker 2: so look, they're testing different things to see what happens.
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Speaker 2: And it was interesting. It floats in the water and
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Speaker 2: I was asking Elon why does it float? He says, well, look,
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Speaker 2: once once the liquid methane and liquid oxygen is out,
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Speaker 2: he said, it has the density essentially of an empty
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Speaker 2: beer can, and so just like you throw an empty
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Speaker 2: beer can on the water and it floats, that's the
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Speaker 2: same thing as the booster. And so they're going and
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Speaker 2: salvaging the booster and discovering, okay, what happened, what's going
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Speaker 2: on there? So that landed pretty quickly. The starship traveled
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Speaker 2: for about an hour and it landed, I think.
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Speaker 1: About going side after. How long were you outside? And
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Speaker 1: then where did you get to watch the second part?
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Speaker 3: So we were outside.
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Speaker 2: We arrived probably an hour before the launch, and so
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Speaker 2: we were talking with Elon and we were in the
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Speaker 2: control room and just having conversations, and we watched lunch,
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Speaker 2: and we watched the booster separate, and then we watched
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Speaker 2: the booster come down, although we couldn't see the booster
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Speaker 2: landed far enough out in the gulf that we couldn't
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Speaker 2: see with our naked eye the booster landing in the water,
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Speaker 2: but we had the video on a big screen, so
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Speaker 2: we were watching it there. And then what we did,
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Speaker 2: because you had about an hour while the starship was
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Speaker 2: traveling in space and it was going about twenty six
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Speaker 2: thousand kilometers an hour, it was about one hundred and
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Speaker 2: sixty kilometers above planet Earth. One of the things Elon
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Speaker 2: said is that the Starship was traveling about ten times
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Speaker 2: the speed of a bullet out of an assault rifle,
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Speaker 2: which there's an analogy you can understand, Ben and as
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Speaker 2: find out, Junior was laughing, going, all right, that makes
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Speaker 2: sense to me too.
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Speaker 3: But that's fast.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fast on a whole nother level. And so
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Speaker 1: you got to watch all of this take place. How
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Speaker 1: important is this just this technology and the fact that
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Speaker 1: it's being done in Texas, because that is the reason
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Speaker 1: why you were on that plane. That's why they asked
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Speaker 1: you to go down there, because this is in Texas.
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Speaker 1: I don't think people realize what this is doing for
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Speaker 1: the Texas economy as well.
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Speaker 3: So it is incredible.
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Speaker 2: And while the Starship was flying halfway around the world,
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Speaker 2: we left the launch observation site. We went to the factory,
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Speaker 2: which is right at the launch site now the factory.
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Speaker 2: So five years ago this was essentially an empty beach,
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Speaker 2: just sand and nothing was on it.
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Speaker 3: And in five years Elon has built.
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Speaker 2: This incredible and I've been to it before, I've toured
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Speaker 2: it before, but but it is it takes your breath away.
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Speaker 2: They are manufacturing about one rocket ship a month. And
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Speaker 2: then these things are massive. So you go into the
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Speaker 2: factory and and there I think it was twenty two
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Speaker 2: stories high.
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Speaker 3: As how tall the booster is.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it just goes up and up and up
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Speaker 2: and up, and it's it's huge. And and you know,
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Speaker 2: we went in and saw and they are manufacturing them
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Speaker 2: to a level of precision down to the tenth of
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Speaker 2: a millimeter. I mean, you think about this, It's not
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Speaker 2: like it's not like SpaceX is making just widgets. I mean,
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Speaker 2: if a screw is wrong, the damn think can blow up.
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Speaker 2: There's so many ways for something to go wrong. And
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Speaker 2: and they have a level of precision that is just astonishing.
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Speaker 2: And so we went in and and and saw and toured.
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Speaker 2: And one of things Elon said is is, look, they're
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Speaker 2: doing launch after launch after launch and everyone they're improving
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Speaker 2: the technology and they're trying different things.
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Speaker 3: So one of the things they did on.
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Speaker 2: This one is they're testing different angles of re entry
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Speaker 2: to see, Okay, if you angle the starship at a
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Speaker 2: slightly different angle, is there more heat, is there less heat?
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Speaker 2: What what happens? You know, what what's the optimum angle?
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Speaker 2: So they're trying all sorts of different things. So we
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Speaker 2: toured those facilities. By the way, they like basically built
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Speaker 2: a whole town. They built housing for the employees. One
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Speaker 2: of the things Elon said that, you know, is a
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Speaker 2: challenge when you're recruiting the best engineers and rocket scientists
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Speaker 2: and they're literally rocket scientists, is he said, you've got
15:44
Speaker 2: to find a place that that there significant others want
15:46
Speaker 2: to live. And so they basically built a whole community
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Speaker 2: with like houses all around there. And like, I didn't
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Speaker 2: go this time, but I've been previously. They have like
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Speaker 2: a little tiki bar that's sort of a club that
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Speaker 2: the employees can go hang out and the you know,
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Speaker 2: he said, look, you gotta you have to create.
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Speaker 3: An environment that that that that that.
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Speaker 2: Both your your incredibly skilled employees and their significant.
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Speaker 3: Others want to be in.
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Speaker 2: And and one thing, you know, but not every every
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Speaker 2: Verdict listener may know, Look, Brownsville has historically been faced
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Speaker 2: very significant economic challenges and and so to have this
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Speaker 2: incredible high tech billions and billions of dollars invested in
16:29
Speaker 2: Brownsville and in deep South Texas in the Rial Rand
16:33
Speaker 2: Valley was really significant. By the way, when we took
16:36
Speaker 2: the motorcade from where Trump Force one landed to the
16:39
Speaker 2: launch site. The entire road side of driving along that
16:45
Speaker 2: there were thousands of people waving signs, waving American flags, cheering.
16:50
Speaker 2: And one of the most significant aspects of this election
16:54
Speaker 2: in Texas is is that both Donald Trump and I,
16:59
Speaker 2: both of us one Hispanics in the state of Texas.
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Speaker 2: I won Hispanics by six point statewide. That's unprecedented. And
17:07
Speaker 2: the Rio Grande Valley, South Texas has been bright blue
17:11
Speaker 2: for one hundred years. It has been just an absolute
17:15
Speaker 2: bastion of the Democrat Party. And this election, South Texas
17:21
Speaker 2: flipped red. I mean, the Star County had a fifty
17:25
Speaker 2: point move. It's the most Hispanic county in America and
17:30
Speaker 2: it had a massive move.
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Speaker 3: Trump won it.
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Speaker 2: The move in South Texas, I think is generational and transformational,
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Speaker 2: and you could just see it as people were cheering
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Speaker 2: and thrilled the President was there.
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Speaker 3: That was a very cool aspect of it as well.
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Speaker 1: All right, final question on this trip, So you get
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Speaker 1: done with all this excitement and then this is still
17:50
Speaker 1: kind of awesome. You get back on Trump Force one
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Speaker 1: and you fly back to Florida. What was the conversation
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Speaker 1: like on the way home again.
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Speaker 2: It was relaxed. We're having fun, We're talking. You know,
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Speaker 2: we had had Fox on and so we're watching Jesse Waters,
18:07
Speaker 2: lor Ingram and Hannity. We're talking about all that and
18:09
Speaker 2: just sort of riffing back and forth. You know. As
18:13
Speaker 2: we were landing, Trump began playing music. And so when
18:18
Speaker 2: he stand at mar Lago, Trump likes to basically be
18:20
Speaker 2: the DJ, and he has an iPad there that he
18:23
Speaker 2: controls the music at mar Lago, and they'll sit there
18:25
Speaker 2: at the table and just play the songs he wants
18:27
Speaker 2: to listen to. And so as we were landing in
18:30
Speaker 2: Palm Beach, he put on guns N' Roses, the music
18:34
Speaker 2: video that he loves from guns N' Roses, and then
18:37
Speaker 2: he put on another music video from Pavroti, which would
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Speaker 2: you want to talk about some breadth in music taste?
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Speaker 2: That That's what we were listening to as we went
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Speaker 2: wheels down back in Florida.
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Speaker 1: Now, did you eat any McDonald's, because there's a lot
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Speaker 1: of pictures that get taken on Trump for one eat McDonald's,
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Speaker 1: We did not.
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Speaker 2: Our dinner instead was Waterburger because we were in Texas.
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Speaker 3: Damage I love it.
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Speaker 1: See I set you up perfect for that answer. So
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Speaker 1: in the answer to that, did you I know, but
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Speaker 1: I set you up there perfectly. So what did he
19:07
Speaker 1: say about whatburger compared to McDonald's. Was it a no
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Speaker 1: brainer for him?
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Speaker 3: He was like, this is a really good Hamburger. Wow,
19:13
Speaker 3: this is really great. I mean he was I would
19:16
Speaker 3: say he was a fan as before.
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Speaker 1: If you want to hear the rest of this conversation
19:21
Speaker 1: on this topic, you can go back and down the
19:24
Speaker 1: podcast from earlier this week to hear the entire thing.
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Speaker 1: I want to get back to the big story number
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Speaker 1: three of the week you may have missed. All right,
19:32
Speaker 1: I want to ask you lastly about big news that happened,
19:36
Speaker 1: and this is much more of a serious topic. Trump
19:40
Speaker 1: team is declaring victory after the Manhattan prosecutors push for
19:45
Speaker 1: a four year freeze on sentencing Donald Trump in his
19:49
Speaker 1: business records case. I've never heard of this before in
19:53
Speaker 1: my life. Maybe this is something that's normal. And Alvin
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Speaker 1: Bragg is upset. He's like, no, no, I still want
19:59
Speaker 1: to go after dumb Trump. You gotta delay it. We'll
20:01
Speaker 1: delay it. But I want him. I still want him.
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Speaker 1: I still believe I'm right. I still want to put
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Speaker 1: him in jail.
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Speaker 2: Well, President Trump has filed a motion to dismiss his
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Speaker 2: criminal conviction, and the Manhattan prosecutor, instead of agreeing to that,
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Speaker 2: has suggested to the judge, no, no, no, don't dismiss it.
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Speaker 2: Just put it on hold for four years, just freeze it.
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Speaker 2: Don't sentence him, just leave the conviction hanging out there.
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Speaker 2: And I got to say, look, unprecedented doesn't begin to
20:29
Speaker 2: describe it. It is an absolute abuse of power. And look,
20:33
Speaker 2: you got to understand, Alvin Bragg is an elected Democrat
20:37
Speaker 2: in Manhattan.
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Speaker 3: In Manhattan, you've.
20:39
Speaker 2: Still got an overwhelming majority of Democrats, many of whom
20:43
Speaker 2: hate Donald Trump's guts, and so for Alvin Bragg, even
20:47
Speaker 2: though politically nationally the persecution and lawfare of Donald Trump,
20:53
Speaker 2: I think actually played a significant factor in his winning.
20:56
Speaker 3: And that was the point I made to him on the.
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Speaker 2: Play, is that I said, we talked quite a bit
21:01
Speaker 2: about all the cases and everything he's endured, and I said, look, ironically,
21:04
Speaker 2: the more they went after you, the more I think
21:06
Speaker 2: it helped you. And if it had been just one indictment,
21:10
Speaker 2: it might have been more harmful, but there were so
21:12
Speaker 2: many that it became obvious to anyone that this was
21:16
Speaker 2: just a persecution. This was a political witch hunk. This
21:19
Speaker 2: was a partisan effort to go after someone because they
21:23
Speaker 2: were terrified that what would happen.
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Speaker 3: Is what, in fact did.
21:27
Speaker 2: Happen, that the American people would vote to re elect him,
21:30
Speaker 2: And I think, as I said, it ended up boosting
21:34
Speaker 2: him significantly in the polls well. Even though it I
21:39
Speaker 2: think was harmful to Democrats nationally in Manhattan, I suspect
21:44
Speaker 2: it's quite helpful to Alvin Brad because there are a
21:46
Speaker 2: lot of partisans who hate Trump. And I got to say,
21:50
Speaker 2: I am very hopeful you know that.
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Speaker 3: This will be thrown out.
21:56
Speaker 2: The judge Juan Marchan as Devin's, I think a lot
22:00
Speaker 2: of bias. He is a partisan Democrat as well. It'll
22:06
Speaker 2: be interesting to see what he does, because I think
22:11
Speaker 2: if he agrees with the prosecutor, if he says, okay,
22:15
Speaker 2: we're going to just put this on ice for four years,
22:18
Speaker 2: I think that will prompt an appeal. It will probably
22:22
Speaker 2: prompt what's called a Ritaman damus to an appellate court
22:25
Speaker 2: to order either the case dismissed or to order him
22:29
Speaker 2: to rule. Because what Alvin Bragg wants to do is
22:32
Speaker 2: he wants to run for reelection saying I prosecuted Donald Trump,
22:37
Speaker 2: I got a conviction of Donald Trump and to use it.
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Speaker 2: Number one for his political advantage. Number two, he wants
22:43
Speaker 2: to avoid a repellate reversal, so he wants four years
22:46
Speaker 2: of the appellate courts not not examining the many and
22:50
Speaker 2: the rampant legal errors in his rulings. But number three,
22:55
Speaker 2: he wants to use this to threaten the president, to
22:57
Speaker 2: have it hang over. And this guy enough of a
23:00
Speaker 2: zealoth that. I mean, he's literally talking about okay, four
23:04
Speaker 2: plus years from now, when he's done with being president's
23:07
Speaker 2: eighty two years old. Alvin Bragg wants to put him
23:09
Speaker 2: in jail like it just to be there to threaten
23:12
Speaker 2: the president every day. And by the way, number four,
23:15
Speaker 2: he wants CNN and MSNBC and all of the corporate
23:18
Speaker 2: media to refer to him as a convicted felon over
23:20
Speaker 2: and over and over again.
23:22
Speaker 3: And if the case is.
23:23
Speaker 2: Thrown out, that becomes a lot more problematic. I do
23:27
Speaker 2: not believe Alvin Bragg will succeed in this either. The
23:32
Speaker 2: trial judge will say, look, this is not tenable. You
23:34
Speaker 2: can't you can't have a jury verdict and then just
23:38
Speaker 2: free sentencing for four years or if not, I think
23:41
Speaker 2: we will see an appellate court step in and say
23:43
Speaker 2: that this is inconsistent with New York law and it
23:47
Speaker 2: is inconsistent with the Constitution.
23:49
Speaker 3: I'm very hopeful that's.
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Speaker 1: What will happen, Senator. Finally, I want to hit something else.
23:54
Speaker 1: That is I have to admit I am enjoying this
23:57
Speaker 1: watching the liberal media meltdown. The View had an all
24:01
Speaker 1: time melt down about Donald Trump's win. Joy Mayhar on
24:06
Speaker 1: The View said this to the audience, take a listen,
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Speaker 1: I do.
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Speaker 3: You know what's in the air? Whoopy, what's sump? Is?
24:12
Speaker 3: We lost the election? When at it we lost the election.
24:16
Speaker 3: We're miserable. Half of this country is miserable. And let's
24:19
Speaker 3: just tell the truth. We hate that he won.
24:22
Speaker 1: We hate everybody. I mean, I know we're all like Nazis,
24:30
Speaker 1: and I know that we're all deplorables, and I know
24:32
Speaker 1: that we're all floating garbage. But you would think they
24:35
Speaker 1: would have learned from losing an election, and clearly they're not.
24:40
Speaker 2: Look, I got to say, if Joy Behar is crying
24:45
Speaker 2: on TV and is miserable and is unhappy. That's a
24:48
Speaker 2: good day for America because her radical and extreme ideas
24:52
Speaker 2: that they're hurting the country. And you know, that may
24:56
Speaker 2: be the most honest thing she's ever said on the
24:58
Speaker 2: view because she is as a hard leftist and and
25:02
Speaker 2: and notice she's learned nothing, She's listened to nothing. There's
25:06
Speaker 2: no part nobody on that show has stopped to say, wait,
25:11
Speaker 2: why did the American people overwhelmingly reject our disastrous policy agenda.
25:16
Speaker 2: They're not asking that. They're just mad at at at
25:20
Speaker 2: what they views as the idiot voters. And listen, that's
25:24
Speaker 2: an arrogance that we see in elected democrats. It's an
25:27
Speaker 2: arrogance we see throughout the corporate media. Uh and and
25:30
Speaker 2: I think it's going to it's going to fuel their
25:33
Speaker 2: their doubling down and getting, if anything, even more extreme.
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