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Brandi Harvey Full Interview · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: My next guest. She's right here. She's actually, like, you know,
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Speaker 1: doing social media on me right now, and we're gonna
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Speaker 1: talk about my first questions about social media. Is recognized
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Speaker 1: as a twenty eight teen Blossom Award recipient through the
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Speaker 1: White Dress Project, a ten Ambassador of Change and Health
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Speaker 1: and Wellness, eighteen boss Woman of the Year, Atlanta's Top
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Speaker 1: one hundred Women in Business, and haven't received the White
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Speaker 1: House Drum Major Service Award under President Barack Obama. She's
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Speaker 1: a woman on the mission to change your life and
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Speaker 1: the world around her. Her book Breakthrough sold separately, debated
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Speaker 1: number one and Amazon. Please welcome to money Making Conversation.
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Speaker 1: Could call him my daughter, could call him my lamente,
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Speaker 1: can call a lot of great things and it's all positive.
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Speaker 1: Please working the show, Brandy Harvey, thank you so much
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Speaker 1: for having me. It feels surreal. Yeah, it feels a
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Speaker 1: bit surreal to be here with you. Like absolutely, so
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Speaker 1: many years, so many years. You've known me since I
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Speaker 1: was seventeen, Absolutely going to college Hampton Hampton, then Ohio
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Speaker 1: State pledging Delta needing Black Black Student Union campaign. She's
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Speaker 1: always this person. I gotta change lives, change lives. Absolutely
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Speaker 1: now so you're up here, you know, social media just
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Speaker 1: to a funnish door by her and a twin sisters
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Speaker 1: in the early State about two thousand and seven. They
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Speaker 1: was they were struggling socially, now, you know. And and
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Speaker 1: I told him, I say, look, uh, I'll give you.
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Speaker 1: I give you five thouars. I think it's like five
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Speaker 1: thousand if y'all can just get the five thousand followers
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Speaker 1: five and gave us a book, gave us this yellow
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Speaker 1: social Media one hundred Ways or something to up your
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Speaker 1: social media game or something like that. And we failed miserably.
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Speaker 1: I mean they actually walked away from its, stopped talking
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Speaker 1: to me. You know, they didn't try it a little bit.
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Speaker 1: You know, they try, We failed. We failed miserably. It
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Speaker 1: was not our calling. Then, now, what is your social
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Speaker 1: media numbers? Now? My friend so on beyond her, I
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Speaker 1: met over twenty thousand followers from my Active Wellness brand
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Speaker 1: and then from my personal I am Brandy Harvey on Instagram.
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Speaker 1: I have over a hundred thirty thousand Instagram followers. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: hundred and thirty eight thousand Instagram followers. Yeah, okay, that's
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Speaker 1: called brand growth. That is definitely brand growth. Because I
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Speaker 1: remember when I had one from a person who stopped
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Speaker 1: talking to me about social media. You know, you put
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Speaker 1: so much pressure on us in the office. I remember it.
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Speaker 1: It was Carly and I it was it was some
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Speaker 1: other people for trees. She put a lot of pressure
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Speaker 1: on us during that time for social Actually it was
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Speaker 1: it was great because I didn't really believe in I
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Speaker 1: launched it for your dad and I remember you ran
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Speaker 1: his social campaign, got it up like this really is
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Speaker 1: not It's not me. I don't want to do that.
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Speaker 1: And that's what this book is about. This. The book
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Speaker 1: is about you can do a lot of things good,
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Speaker 1: but that doesn't necessarily mean that's a long term that's
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Speaker 1: gonna make you happy. No, I'm going to fulfill your
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Speaker 1: dreams and more importantly than it may not be your calling. No,
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Speaker 1: tell us why you wrote the book, because that was
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Speaker 1: one of the main takeaways to that guy from the book.
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Speaker 1: You know why I wrote this book is because I
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Speaker 1: wanted to You know, I'm a teacher at my heart,
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Speaker 1: at my core, and I wanted to teach other women
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Speaker 1: how to break free in their lives, to have their
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Speaker 1: own breakthrough, to jump over the hurdle of being unstuck
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Speaker 1: of staying with the victims story that's kept you stuck
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Speaker 1: for so long. I wanted to help women break free
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Speaker 1: from the food bondage, you know, because so many of
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Speaker 1: us are stuck eating and drinking ourselves into like a
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Speaker 1: coma every single day, trying to suppress the emotions, and
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Speaker 1: so and then spiritually, I think so many black women
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Speaker 1: in particular have been you know, UM, really hurt by
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Speaker 1: the church, been hurt by religion, and so I wanted
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Speaker 1: to have this book offer up a piece for you
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Speaker 1: to find that inner spirit. Because when you find that
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Speaker 1: inner wheel, you know it you can move forward in
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Speaker 1: your life. Now, when you stay moved forward in your life,
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Speaker 1: what does that mean? Because it means a lot to
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Speaker 1: a lot of different people. I just wanted to find
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Speaker 1: the words that you're trying to emote from your book.
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Speaker 1: You know. When I when I sat down to write
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Speaker 1: the book, you know, I started the book because I
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Speaker 1: was fired. And I opened the book telling the story
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Speaker 1: of being fired from my dad's UM foundation. And so
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Speaker 1: now most people are like blown away, like how do
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Speaker 1: you get fired from your dad? And I was fired
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Speaker 1: and I knew that I was not living up to
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Speaker 1: my highest calling and potential I knew that there was
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Speaker 1: so much more that I wanted to do with my
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Speaker 1: life and be of service to other people. Um, and
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Speaker 1: I think that was a moment for me that I
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Speaker 1: had to get unstuck and move forward. Because some talk
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Speaker 1: about because I was there for and we had many
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Speaker 1: conversations in my office lunchtime because you you were really
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Speaker 1: conflicted about you know, divinity going in that direction to
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Speaker 1: theology school. Yeah, we had and I was looking at
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Speaker 1: really really because I hear this conversation and then and
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Speaker 1: then also the whole aspect of the prospect of running
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Speaker 1: the foundation. You know, we did the camps and downsividually
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Speaker 1: to Atlanta. Those are things you were just good at.
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Speaker 1: That's how I just talking about. You were just talented.
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Speaker 1: It was a passion that you believed in, but that
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Speaker 1: wasn't your passion and so and so I always felt
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Speaker 1: that any advice I gave you really would have been
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Speaker 1: confusing because of the fact that even though you you
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Speaker 1: spoke these words all you're very articulate, you're very prominent
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Speaker 1: in your tone, doesn't mean that's what you wanted to do.
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Speaker 1: And so so when I when I hear the fact
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Speaker 1: that you know, you were terminated as the executive director
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Speaker 1: of the foundation. That doesn't shock because we had these conversations.
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Speaker 1: It's all alone. At certain times, I'm saying people get
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Speaker 1: fired or just waiting for you to do the do
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Speaker 1: your job. It's all you're doing, just waiting. But what
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Speaker 1: we don't want to do is get hear the words.
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Speaker 1: You know, we don't want to hear the word. But
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Speaker 1: way back when you knew what's coming and had all
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Speaker 1: the signs, were there, all the signs, this is not
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Speaker 1: worth frustration and complaining, motivation and begredgulingly doing your work.
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Speaker 1: You're planning other things during those people's times. You know,
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Speaker 1: you're using those people's cubicles in computers. Absolutely, And that's
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Speaker 1: that's why. That's why I thought that whole portion of
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Speaker 1: the idea of you opening the book talking about determination
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Speaker 1: part and there were some personal things that you talk about,
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Speaker 1: but believing that's happening every day in America. People are
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Speaker 1: going to work. Yeah, um, what you're doing over there,
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Speaker 1: uh long breaks, uh, tying up other employees time with
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Speaker 1: conversation and that means nothing to the company. And then
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Speaker 1: you they're going I want to I want to confront
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Speaker 1: the issue. That's what I loved about you here. You
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Speaker 1: are in the wrong, you know all the time, but
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Speaker 1: you're confronting issue. You tell me why I'm fired. Well
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Speaker 1: you kind of know, but yeah, and that's that. And
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Speaker 1: so I so I found a humorous because I know
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Speaker 1: people do this all the time, but not like you.
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Speaker 1: But not like you. You want to hear the words
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Speaker 1: come out. Yeah, And I think that's what so many
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Speaker 1: of us do. We don't understand that we've we've had
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Speaker 1: the moment of closure, right, but we need to know.
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Speaker 1: I need to hear it. I need you know, give
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Speaker 1: me what I'm looking for. Know the closures already happened.
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Speaker 1: And so many times we miss out on the things
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Speaker 1: that we're supposed to do with our lives because we're
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Speaker 1: waiting for someone to give us an answer to the why,
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Speaker 1: you know, when we should just move on. When here's
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Speaker 1: the funny part about it. When you eventually get the why,
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Speaker 1: then there's more conversation. It's it's come out of the conversation.
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Speaker 1: And so so that's why I was fascinated and I
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Speaker 1: thought your book, I feel is a must read. And
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Speaker 1: I think it's a must read because I think I
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Speaker 1: see another version, because I feel that when you do
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Speaker 1: all these interviews like interviews with me, you see how
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Speaker 1: expansive it is as far as in the corporate world,
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Speaker 1: in the small business world, because we're dealing with employees
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Speaker 1: and we're dealing with poor decisions as we make as owners,
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Speaker 1: as supervisors, as management. Because of the fact that what
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Speaker 1: you did personally is what every employee is doing in America,
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Speaker 1: they denial about them being the real problem. The fact
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Speaker 1: and stuff. You could have resolved everybody's problem if you
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Speaker 1: just say I resigned. Absolutely, I didn't want to do that,
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Speaker 1: and don't We want to hold onto things when they're
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Speaker 1: no longer serving us, they no longer fit us, they
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Speaker 1: no longer are part of our space, but we want
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Speaker 1: to hold onto them because we are afraid. We're afraid
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Speaker 1: to get out of the boat of mediocrity and walk
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Speaker 1: on water. Okay, So how does the title come about?
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Speaker 1: And I love the Yeah. The reason I like that
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Speaker 1: because it feels impossible. Yeah, you know, and that's part
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Speaker 1: you know, from from the Bible. Yeah, it was definitely
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Speaker 1: a spiritual undertone to it. Um. I came up with it,
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Speaker 1: you know, I actually did this message um back at
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Speaker 1: a retreat in Arizona. I was speaking at a wellness retreat,
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Speaker 1: and I was trying to, you know, come like with
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Speaker 1: what the message was going to be, because I was
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Speaker 1: a closing keynote, and it really just I was headlining.
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Speaker 1: I am. I come from a line of headliners, you know,
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Speaker 1: and so I was I was trying to figure out
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Speaker 1: what I was going to talk about. And it was
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Speaker 1: so many things physically that we happened to me during
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Speaker 1: that time. But I remember just coming out of meditation
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Speaker 1: and I was quiet, and I started thinking about like
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Speaker 1: batteries being sold separately, right like when you the words
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Speaker 1: Christmas would be like for parents when you you buy
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Speaker 1: the gift and then there's no batteries included, and so
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Speaker 1: the toys just sitting there. But then I started thinking
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Speaker 1: about like how people come to retreats and conferences, and
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Speaker 1: they come to retreats and conferences and they think that
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Speaker 1: the breakthrough is going to be included. That I paid,
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Speaker 1: I pay for the ticket, I pay to get here,
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Speaker 1: and now that you're supposed to give me the breakthrough,
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Speaker 1: the breakthrough supposed to happen, but that's so separate, that's
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Speaker 1: not included. And so in order to get the breakthrough
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Speaker 1: in your life, you're going to have to test your faith.
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Speaker 1: And the faith being tested. Idea symbolize it to Jesus
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Speaker 1: walking on water. But Jesus wasn't the only one that
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Speaker 1: walked on water. Peter walked on water because he trusted
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Speaker 1: enough to get out of the boat. He got the
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Speaker 1: invitation and he got out of the boat to walk
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Speaker 1: on water. He faltered when his faith faltered, right, And
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Speaker 1: so the faith, you know, is really what I speak
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Speaker 1: to in this book, is because in order to get
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Speaker 1: through any mountain, walk on any water you're going to have,
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Speaker 1: your faith is going to have to be tested. And
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Speaker 1: it's not tested when it's easy, right. When it gets
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Speaker 1: tested when you get fired, it gets tested. It when
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Speaker 1: you don't have the money. It gets tested when you
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Speaker 1: don't feel at your best. That's when the faith is tested.
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Speaker 1: And so that's the opportunity for us. But not only
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Speaker 1: is it tested, but you actually honestly look at yourself
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Speaker 1: what you want to do. Because in life I look
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Speaker 1: at so many people that I I attempt to mentor
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Speaker 1: that's why I started by making conversations as a mental process.
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Speaker 1: So many people of years that I bring on the show.
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Speaker 1: I didn't realize how much of an impact that I
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Speaker 1: had on them to sitting around having these conversations like
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Speaker 1: we've had many times. Carley's head. It was one of
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Speaker 1: my favorite people, and we want to talk about that.
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Speaker 1: I know the next break, I want to talk about
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Speaker 1: the twin concept because of the fact that you know,
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Speaker 1: this really is a book about you and that separation.
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Speaker 1: I think it's important for you because when we initially met,
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Speaker 1: you guys were really joined that they have but then
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Speaker 1: I and then and then but I knew that Carli
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Speaker 1: kind of found herself faster than you. And I always
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Speaker 1: felt that you will either not happy with yourself or
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Speaker 1: you just wanted somebody to point you in the right
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Speaker 1: direction because that may have been easier, and you didn't
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Speaker 1: want to do the work to get there. And now
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Speaker 1: you've done the work and it just shows just just
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Speaker 1: when you walk in the door, the confidence, you know,
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Speaker 1: but I know there's behind those eyes, there's happiness, and
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Speaker 1: that's important. Now I'm talking to Brandy Harvey, uh, my
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Speaker 1: dear friend. Before we're going this break, tell people where
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Speaker 1: they can buy the book. They can buy the book
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Speaker 1: on Amazon, you can one click it to your door.
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Speaker 1: You can do Amazon one click, or you can go
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Speaker 1: to I am Brandy Harvey dot com, Social Media Digital.
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Speaker 1: She's a queen Brandy Harvey. We'll be right back. Hi,
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Speaker 1: just ra Sean McDonald. I am having a great time
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Speaker 1: with my friend. You know, I almost want to call
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Speaker 1: my daughter, you know, uh, she's she's one half of
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Speaker 1: the other daughter. You know, call it Brandy Cally, Brandy Harvey,
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Speaker 1: call it Brandy Carll. It was always funnish. She's come
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Speaker 1: by my house. You do my daughters, she always had
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Speaker 1: the the you know, I was. I was. I have
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Speaker 1: conversation with them and Carling and Brandon Carl. You just
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Speaker 1: get over it, brand just get over it. And no,
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Speaker 1: I'm not no, No, I need answers. I need to
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Speaker 1: know and call it go whatever, And she won't I do.
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Speaker 1: I'm just stuck with Brandy. Stuck. Yeah, I'm just stuck
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Speaker 1: in with because you you want to answer, I'm stuck
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Speaker 1: with you. I'm stuck with you because you have to
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Speaker 1: have answers. I do. But that's a part of my nature.
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Speaker 1: I'm a seeker. I'm a teacher, I'm a learner. I'm
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Speaker 1: ever student, and so I'm in earth school and I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna tell you some about her. Is that the funny
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Speaker 1: part about that, that that that amazing determination to get
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Speaker 1: to the bottom of it, you know, affects so many
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Speaker 1: things you're like, in fact, your relationships. It affects how
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Speaker 1: people approach you. Even when I was reading the book,
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Speaker 1: when that young lady came in and you ear hustled
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Speaker 1: her and recommended her at the at the at the
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Speaker 1: spot at the veganing, I was getting a solid and smoothie. Okay,
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Speaker 1: just set the story up, okay, and then I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: just add this part to it. Tell everybody what I'm
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Speaker 1: talking about. So in the book, I'm talking about I'm
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Speaker 1: sitting at this you know, local spot here in Atlanta,
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Speaker 1: and I am I am. I kind of overhear a
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Speaker 1: girl on the phone. She's she's overweight over here on
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Speaker 1: the phone talking about, you know, her weight loss and everything.
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Speaker 1: So when she got off the phone, I was like, hey,
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Speaker 1: how are you today, and I kind of, you know,
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Speaker 1: she started, you have some weight issues. I inserted myself.
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Speaker 1: I did, he has the weight issues. I know the
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Speaker 1: place that you can go to your issues effects fitness,
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Speaker 1: And she said, well, she didn't explode. She was very exceptive,
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Speaker 1: very nice. But I wouldn't expect that because I know
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Speaker 1: you know how to approach people. That's your gifts. Communication,
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Speaker 1: that smile, that smile would kill anybody wanted to go,
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Speaker 1: you go, what's the problem? And so so. But these
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Speaker 1: are the stories that are in the book that you
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Speaker 1: that you are started to tell your story, and so
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Speaker 1: for for all these years. You know, when when I
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Speaker 1: when I talked about the two thus two thousand and seven,
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Speaker 1: when I saw you physically make the transformation to fitness,
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Speaker 1: I'm telling I remember when she came into the studio
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Speaker 1: and I looked at Steve Harving that way, Is that
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Speaker 1: that that's Brandon? He said, Yes, she's training for some
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Speaker 1: fitness thing, but she's scaring me because she's losing so
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Speaker 1: much weight. And you know, I guess I heard the
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Speaker 1: stories of love, of what he had for you and
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Speaker 1: all the time all that's too both of you guys,
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Speaker 1: I heard and and and they were really important, And
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Speaker 1: you guys were always really important to him in his
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Speaker 1: personal life. You know. That was that was our driving
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Speaker 1: force when we we got together as partners in two thousands,
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Speaker 1: was how can we change just changed the lives of
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Speaker 1: people around us? But also affect financial change so we
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Speaker 1: can make sure our children didn't have the lives that
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Speaker 1: we had growing up. But in the process we kind
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Speaker 1: of missed communicate that message because especially all children are different.
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Speaker 1: That's why I love the fact that you know you
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Speaker 1: and call it are different, Carl. It was accepting of
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Speaker 1: the process. You needed answers for the process. And one
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Speaker 1: of the dates that I talked earlier off are about
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Speaker 1: in eighteen one October nine nineteen one. October nineteen one
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Speaker 1: was an important date for me in my life because
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Speaker 1: I was struggling with myself. I didn't know what I
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Speaker 1: wanted to do. But I tell myself, I said, I
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Speaker 1: made the commitment to God. This alm gonna take advantage
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Speaker 1: of all the talents that God gave me, whether it
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Speaker 1: was acting, writing, being amc or stand up comic. I
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Speaker 1: was gonna put one effort into everything I I wasn't
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Speaker 1: gonna make any excuses. And then my life turn on.
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Speaker 1: That's gonna open to Comedy Club in nineteen two, and
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Speaker 1: then Steve Harvard played by Comedy Club, and then he
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Speaker 1: and I wound up being a writer on his TV
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Speaker 1: shows and the rest of his history. And I've always
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Speaker 1: worked one. You also have a date that you mentioned
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Speaker 1: in the book as well. Let's talk about that dating
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Speaker 1: wise it and why it is important to you. August thirds,
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Speaker 1: the seventeen was when I found out I was fired,
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Speaker 1: you know, and it didn't come in a way that
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Speaker 1: I thought it was going to come. You know. It
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Speaker 1: was kind of like a company wide email that we
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Speaker 1: would like to welcome the new And you're like, oh,
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Speaker 1: that's but the beautiful part of that is two years
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Speaker 1: to the day, two years to the day I sent
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Speaker 1: this book off to the publisher. And so I think
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Speaker 1: that that's just a testament of my own faith, of
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Speaker 1: my own ability to walk on water. But I think
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Speaker 1: it's just you know, surrendering to the process. You know
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Speaker 1: that I had to surrender to the process. That nothing
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Speaker 1: was going to be simple and easy, but I was
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Speaker 1: going to have, you know, the tools to do it right.
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Speaker 1: And I want to point out a couple of things
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Speaker 1: that I thought was significant in the book. I want
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Speaker 1: to read a couple of things here. Uh it's called
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Speaker 1: the cost of emotional Dishonestly, this is what I read.
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Speaker 1: When you get those designer shoes or that Tesla or Porsche,
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Speaker 1: you'd be happy when you lose weight and fit those
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Speaker 1: god those gold jens that those genesus just said go for,
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Speaker 1: they were too small when you bought them. You'll be
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Speaker 1: happy when you buy a house and the right zip code.
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Speaker 1: You'll be happy when you get with the right man, land,
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Speaker 1: the right job, or party harder than anybody else in
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Speaker 1: the room. You'll be happy. This pursuit of false image
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Speaker 1: of happiness, that's what you're saying. That's why do you
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Speaker 1: say that, you know, I think because I was chasing
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Speaker 1: those things. I was chasing the party, I was chasing
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Speaker 1: the material success. And it's still when you got those things,
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Speaker 1: I still felt empty. I still felt like there was
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Speaker 1: something missing in my life. And until I went to
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Speaker 1: really uncover and dig up all of the past traumas
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Speaker 1: and hurts that it really, you know, impacted my life.
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Speaker 1: Because often we think, especially as women of color, we
18:49
Speaker 1: think that, well, it's not a big trauma that happened
18:53
Speaker 1: to me, you know, no one died or you know,
18:55
Speaker 1: but they are little traumas, you know, when you get
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Speaker 1: abandoned by people and people walk out on you, or
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Speaker 1: when you've been rejected, or when you've been told certain things,
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Speaker 1: any stories, they deeply affect you and then they cause
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Speaker 1: you to make other decisions. And so I was showing
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Speaker 1: up very emotionally dishonest in my life and my relationships.
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Speaker 1: You know, I was not setting boundaries. I was leaving
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Speaker 1: myself very open and susceptible to you know, to the
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Speaker 1: prey of men. Let's talk about it. I'm talking to
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Speaker 1: Brandy Harvey. Her book Breakthrough So Separately number one Amazon
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Speaker 1: when it hit the stands. UM therapy, Yeah, I guess
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Speaker 1: that's that's a word that in the black community or
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Speaker 1: the community of color, is a word that's finally starting
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Speaker 1: to become a word that's okay, okay, it's not it's
19:44
Speaker 1: not tied to people who are some word got issues
19:49
Speaker 1: straight jackets right right. So, and that's something that you
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Speaker 1: talk about in the book. Yea, let's discuss why do
19:55
Speaker 1: you think that it's a fear or is it a
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Speaker 1: weakness within the black when you start talking about therapy.
20:02
Speaker 1: I think we've been very um. We religion has played
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Speaker 1: such a major part in our lives and spirit you know,
20:09
Speaker 1: people of color, spirituality is very very keen in our
20:13
Speaker 1: in our in our experience. UM. But some sometimes we
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Speaker 1: think that UM going to therapy lessons our relationship with God.
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Speaker 1: We think that going to therapy is saying that we
20:25
Speaker 1: don't we're not giving God power, you know, we're giving manpower. Um.
20:30
Speaker 1: But I think what therapy does it is it gives
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Speaker 1: us an opportunity to tackle like it and and you know,
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Speaker 1: kind of going to all the beautiful things that God
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Speaker 1: has provided for us as a source, as a resource.
20:43
Speaker 1: You know, we get scared of it because we're afraid
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Speaker 1: of what we might uncover when we get on that couch.
20:48
Speaker 1: We're afraid to face some of the things that we've
20:52
Speaker 1: been told to just get over, you know. And I
20:55
Speaker 1: was told for such a long time, just get over it,
20:57
Speaker 1: you know, just get over it. I mean, while you steal,
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Speaker 1: just get over it. But if I knew how to
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Speaker 1: get over it, I probably would have done it already, absolutely,
21:05
Speaker 1: And I didn't have the tools to get over it.
21:08
Speaker 1: And so therapy. Um. I love the fact that now
21:10
Speaker 1: we're really starting to engage in these conversations around mental
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Speaker 1: health and our emotional health because I had to start
21:17
Speaker 1: showing up for myself and I stopped listening to what
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Speaker 1: the naysayer said. And you don't need therapy, and girl,
21:23
Speaker 1: just pray about it. Absolutely. I was praying. I promise
21:27
Speaker 1: I saw you, I saw you. See. That's that's the okay,
21:33
Speaker 1: Like I told you, this book is like you're gonna
21:35
Speaker 1: come back. You have four books in here. I know.
21:37
Speaker 1: The first book about you being fired is a corporate book.
21:40
Speaker 1: All should be written, it should be expanded because because
21:43
Speaker 1: the fact you you dealt with sohen you you oversee people,
21:46
Speaker 1: you made the mistakes as a manager, supervisor, all that
21:50
Speaker 1: should be written in here. Now this book about what
21:52
Speaker 1: we just talked about right now, therapy, that's a totally
21:56
Speaker 1: different book as well. Okay, what you know about which
21:59
Speaker 1: we should be expanded on that. The next book eating right, Yeah,
22:05
Speaker 1: it's all connected. You know. I I say who because
22:08
Speaker 1: she talks about you know, you gotta have that fiber, Yeah,
22:11
Speaker 1: your fruits and vegetables. Yes, that's what I'm saying. This
22:16
Speaker 1: This book was so it was so fascinating to me
22:20
Speaker 1: about because I'm a bad eater, you know, and I
22:22
Speaker 1: know I know this. I know this to be true.
22:25
Speaker 1: This is a true statement this man is making right
22:28
Speaker 1: now and so so reading this book, going okay, she
22:31
Speaker 1: starts with dessert. Dessert, when you first when you go
22:35
Speaker 1: out with him, and then and then you go into um.
22:41
Speaker 1: I guess the whole religious as your faith prospect of spirituality.
22:47
Speaker 1: But you talk about women in church, plus your black
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Speaker 1: women in church, how we should be perceived are being
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Speaker 1: perceived still it's still a male dominated approach. I to
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Speaker 1: find a brother universe because your mom told you the
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Speaker 1: story in the book where I was speaking at a
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Speaker 1: church in Alabama. I was speaking at a church, um
23:09
Speaker 1: and this was in the Deep South, you know, of Alabama.
23:12
Speaker 1: I was on a palm Sunday. So of course this
23:14
Speaker 1: is like for people who are in the Christian faith,
23:16
Speaker 1: Palm Sunday is like the that's like one of them Sundays.
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Speaker 1: You know, you're gonna get your palms, You're gonna make
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Speaker 1: a cross out of it. It's gonna be in your
23:23
Speaker 1: Bible for three years, you know. So I knew that
23:26
Speaker 1: this was a big deal, you know. But it was
23:29
Speaker 1: like the playoffs of church. You know, I'm in the
23:32
Speaker 1: playoffs and you too. I was going to be in
23:34
Speaker 1: the pool. I was a word. I was. I had
23:37
Speaker 1: worked on this message for like two weeks. I was
23:39
Speaker 1: so ready float over the steps, and I was gonna
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Speaker 1: be Your mom told you what and my mom said,
23:47
Speaker 1: I think you should understand that they probably won't allow
23:50
Speaker 1: you to speak in the poolpit because you're a woman. Know,
23:55
Speaker 1: I'm Brandy Harvey. I said, no, I'm Brandy Harvey. I said,
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Speaker 1: I definitely don't think that that would be the case.
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Speaker 1: Out and I get to the church and they were like, yeah,
24:04
Speaker 1: a little show you or you'll be speaking from the floor.
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Speaker 1: And I spoke from and I mean literally my face drop,
24:09
Speaker 1: you know, because I had to pick my face up
24:10
Speaker 1: because Amigo was crushed all those things. But I delivered
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Speaker 1: the message. But in that delivering the message, you know,
24:18
Speaker 1: I was like, really like, I'm not worthy enough to
24:21
Speaker 1: stand up here with the with the message because I'm like,
24:25
Speaker 1: it was just so many things that you know, I
24:27
Speaker 1: think have have really hurt us. But I think it's also,
24:31
Speaker 1: you know, I don't look at this book as being
24:33
Speaker 1: a religious book. I think this book it definitely is
24:35
Speaker 1: very much on the lines of discovering the power within you,
24:37
Speaker 1: that we all have this divine power within us to
24:41
Speaker 1: create the life that we want, you know, well, more importantly,
24:45
Speaker 1: the reason I have a fun time reading this book,
24:48
Speaker 1: I remember, he knows I always read books in the
24:51
Speaker 1: day because they're fresh. I walk in and they know
24:55
Speaker 1: how you read the books fair well. First of all,
24:57
Speaker 1: I really you'll give me information day. It's very relatable
25:01
Speaker 1: motivation that's driven towards UH pointing out thing because you're courageous,
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Speaker 1: you know, especially when you're talking about women in church
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Speaker 1: and being able to confront that issue. Your courageous when
25:13
Speaker 1: you talk about honestly about your relationship with your dad,
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Speaker 1: you and how you made mistakes and how you was
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Speaker 1: pushing it, pushing the enveload for information. You talk about therapy,
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Speaker 1: you talk about relationships with UH, with different men that
25:28
Speaker 1: you've had in your life from the standpoint of what
25:30
Speaker 1: you felt that what value that way, as you talk
25:33
Speaker 1: about weed, you talk about alcohol, all these different things.
25:35
Speaker 1: That's why I know that you've only given us a
25:38
Speaker 1: shell of changing our lives. So I just know that
25:41
Speaker 1: I want to thank you for this book, Brandy, because
25:44
Speaker 1: of the fact that, first of all, you've got a
25:46
Speaker 1: portion of your story. This is not the complete Brandy
25:49
Speaker 1: Harley Harvey story. What it is is a story that
25:52
Speaker 1: will help change people's lives because your articulation. You're just
25:56
Speaker 1: standing up here. You have a podcast past. Yeah, but
26:00
Speaker 1: I do have a weekly newsletter that comes out every Tuesday.
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Speaker 1: I need a podcast. You need to be talking to
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Speaker 1: somebody every Brandy Harvey. I will leave you. I will
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Speaker 1: be talking to some people for you. Look at look
26:14
Speaker 1: at I'm at the right person. Have you managed me?
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Speaker 1: I'll just let you know. I'm so impressed with you.
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Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on money making conversations and that
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Speaker 1: means so much to me. Much I appreciate you. Thank you, Brandon,
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Speaker 1: thank you