Latest / The Ben Ferguson Podcast / Major Legislation to Protect the Flying Public, plus New Evidence FBI Complicit in Russia Hoax
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Welcome in as Vertical Center. Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with
- 0:04Speaker 1: you and Senator, It's nice to talk about a really
- 0:07Speaker 1: important issue tonight that many Americans have become much more
- 0:11Speaker 1: concerned about. That's flying. You fly a lot, I fly
- 0:15Speaker 1: a lot, and you have introduced new legislation that's going
- 0:18Speaker 1: to deal with what happened with that helicopter crash into
- 0:21Speaker 1: the airplane right there at Reagan. Your wife was flying
- 0:25Speaker 1: in that night. I remember that night. Well, in six
- 0:28Speaker 1: months to the day, you've introduced this.
- 0:30Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly right. You and I are sitting here.
- 0:34Speaker 2: It is Tuesday night, six months ago to the day,
- 0:39Speaker 2: on January twenty ninth, is when the horrific accident occurred
- 0:42Speaker 2: over Ronald Reagan National Airport. Sixty seven souls were killed
- 0:47Speaker 2: in that accident. And this week today, actually I introduced
- 0:51Speaker 2: legislation to dramatically improve air safety to protect the flying public.
- 0:56Speaker 2: We're going to talk about that, talk about the need
- 0:59Speaker 2: to avoid any accident like that going forward. We're also
- 1:02Speaker 2: going to talk about stunning evidence that's come forward that
- 1:07Speaker 2: the FBI was complicit in the Russia Russia Russia hoax.
- 1:13Speaker 2: The FBI knew what they were doing, and they played
- 1:16Speaker 2: an active role. We're gonna lay out with the head
- 1:18Speaker 2: of the CIA laid out this week all of that.
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- 3:11Speaker 1: months in time. And remind people. I remember that night.
- 3:15Speaker 1: It was a night where we had that helicopter that
- 3:19Speaker 1: went right into that plane that was coming down at
- 3:22Speaker 1: Reagan National and it killed so many people. It also,
- 3:26Speaker 1: I think, really shook a lot of travelers to their core.
- 3:30Speaker 1: And the question that was asked was like, how does
- 3:32Speaker 1: this even happen? How is this possible? And now there's
- 3:35Speaker 1: real legislation to keep our family safe. As a fly,
- 3:38Speaker 1: you fly a lot, your family flies a lot. It's
- 3:41Speaker 1: something that's on a lot of people's minds.
- 3:44Speaker 2: Well, this happened on January twenty ninth. It was the
- 3:47Speaker 2: ninth day of the Trump presidency. And actually the night
- 3:50Speaker 2: had happened, I was having dinner with Mike Waltz. Mike
- 3:53Speaker 2: Waltz was at the time President Trump's national security advisor.
- 3:56Speaker 2: The two of us were talking about the national security
- 3:58Speaker 2: threats of the country, having a great dinner, and then
- 4:01Speaker 2: at the very end of the dinner, we were wrapping
- 4:03Speaker 2: up and he got a text over his phone. He's like,
- 4:06Speaker 2: oh crap. He said, there was just a major crash
- 4:09Speaker 2: over Reagan Airport, And so Mike rushed off to the
- 4:13Speaker 2: situation room to deal with it. From the White House,
- 4:16Speaker 2: as I got up that night, it so happened. Heidie
- 4:19Speaker 2: was flying into DC and she was landing at Reagan,
- 4:23Speaker 2: and I will say, my body man came up to
- 4:25Speaker 2: me and Trent, and you know Trent is a great guy. Yeah,
- 4:28Speaker 2: Trent came up to me and he said, Heidie's okay,
- 4:32Speaker 2: but there was a plane crash at Reagan. I got
- 4:35Speaker 2: to say, Trent did a very good job starting with
- 4:37Speaker 2: Heidie's okay, because I get you know, when your wife's
- 4:39Speaker 2: in the air like that, if you reverse those statements
- 4:42Speaker 2: that that causes you to freak out. So I was
- 4:45Speaker 2: very grateful. Heidie's plane was scheduled to land about a
- 4:48Speaker 2: half hour after the crash, so they diverted her to
- 4:51Speaker 2: BWI Airport, which is, you know, about an hour away.
- 4:55Speaker 2: Heidie got home that night to our apartment. We normally
- 4:58Speaker 2: live in Houston, but she was coming up that night
- 5:00Speaker 2: to be with me. I got to tell you, I
- 5:03Speaker 2: just held her. I mean, you know, your wife is
- 5:05Speaker 2: on a plane. It could as easily been her plane
- 5:08Speaker 2: as the plane that crashed. And it was a plane,
- 5:11Speaker 2: an American Airlines plane that was flying from Wichita to
- 5:15Speaker 2: d C. As it was landing at DCA Reagan Airport.
- 5:20Speaker 2: An Army Blackhawk helicopter came across the landing path and
- 5:26Speaker 2: collided and there were three soldiers on the Army helicopter.
- 5:32Speaker 2: There were sixty four people, sixty one passengers and three
- 5:36Speaker 2: crew member on the plane, and in an instant they
- 5:43Speaker 2: were incinerated. It was a horrific accident, I will tell you.
- 5:47Speaker 2: In the wake of the accident, I went to the
- 5:50Speaker 2: NTSB site where they'd pulled all the wreckage out and
- 5:54Speaker 2: the wreckage, the damage. Here's the good news, I asked.
- 5:58Speaker 2: I said, look, did anyone drown because the plane in
- 6:01Speaker 2: the helicopter went down in the Potomac. And I suppose
- 6:04Speaker 2: the good news is they said nobody drowned. That They said,
- 6:08Speaker 2: the helicopter rotor struck the wing. The wing is filled
- 6:13Speaker 2: with jet fuel and it immediately exploded and it is
- 6:18Speaker 2: essentially incinerated everyone. So they died instantly, which I've got
- 6:21Speaker 2: to say, if you're going to die in a plane crash,
- 6:24Speaker 2: you'd rather die instantly than slowly and painfully. So I
- 6:27Speaker 2: suppose there's a blessing in that. But I will say,
- 6:31Speaker 2: standing at the NTSB site with the wreckage of the plane,
- 6:34Speaker 2: the wreckage of the helicopter and you see just charge
- 6:38Speaker 2: sheet seats, you see just pieces of the plane and helicopter,
- 6:43Speaker 2: and you also saw you know, children's backpacks and toys
- 6:50Speaker 2: and luggage and and all of the all of the
- 6:53Speaker 2: wreckage of sixty seven people who died instantly, and it
- 6:57Speaker 2: was horrific. It was show and look what was frustrating
- 7:03Speaker 2: is it should not have happened. It was avoidable. And
- 7:06Speaker 2: so in the six months that have followed, I've shared
- 7:09Speaker 2: multiple hearings. I've had multiple roundtable discussions with the NTSB,
- 7:15Speaker 2: the National Traffic Safety Board, with the FAA, with the
- 7:17Speaker 2: Department Transportation to say what went wrong and there are
- 7:22Speaker 2: multiple pieces of what went wrong that that should never
- 7:25Speaker 2: have happened. One of the things that went wrong is
- 7:29Speaker 2: the Army helicopter did not have functioning adsb out. Now
- 7:35Speaker 2: what does that mean? Adsb out An adsb IN is
- 7:40Speaker 2: advanced technology to locate where a plane is, where a
- 7:44Speaker 2: helicopter is, and adsb out broadcast to everyone so you
- 7:48Speaker 2: can get it precise. The air traffic controllers can get
- 7:50Speaker 2: a precise image, and other aircraft can get a precise
- 7:53Speaker 2: image of exactly where.
- 7:55Speaker 4: That aircraft is.
- 7:57Speaker 2: Adsb IN is the ability to receive the signals from
- 8:01Speaker 2: all the other aircrafts. So ideally you need both. You
- 8:05Speaker 2: need adsb out so you're broadcasting the whole world, and
- 8:08Speaker 2: you need ADSB in where you can see the images
- 8:12Speaker 2: of the other aircraft. Now, for twenty years twenty the NTSB,
- 8:19Speaker 2: the National Traffic Safety Board, has been recommending that every
- 8:22Speaker 2: aircraft have ADSBN and adsb out. That is not the law,
- 8:29Speaker 2: and the Army Blackhawk helicopter did not have adsb OUT
- 8:33Speaker 2: that was functioning that night, so that meant the American
- 8:36Speaker 2: Airlines plane could not see it until the two collided
- 8:40Speaker 2: and everyone died. This week I introduced legislation. I called
- 8:44Speaker 2: it the Roador Act, and it mandates that every aircraft,
- 8:48Speaker 2: a jet, a helicopter, or any other aircraft that is
- 8:52Speaker 2: in commercial airspace, that is in the airspace where planes
- 8:55Speaker 2: are flying, where the flying public is must have both
- 9:00Speaker 2: adsb out and ADSB in. I think this is common
- 9:04Speaker 2: sense legislation. I think we're going to get it passed,
- 9:07Speaker 2: and I think when we get it passed, it is
- 9:09Speaker 2: going to make the flying public significantly safer.
- 9:12Speaker 1: Why did it take so long? I mean, I know
- 9:14Speaker 1: there was a lot of people that said, well, it
- 9:15Speaker 1: was just a cost issue, and it was a cost
- 9:17Speaker 1: add on to the price of a plane. It was
- 9:20Speaker 1: cost out onto small planes and different things, and that
- 9:24Speaker 1: people were frustrated. They're like, this is another one of
- 9:25Speaker 1: those regulations. Is it was as simple as that, and
- 9:28Speaker 1: that's the reason why it was always basically not made
- 9:30Speaker 1: a all.
- 9:32Speaker 2: So they're different pieces of it. The FAA required adsb
- 9:36Speaker 2: out so it required aircraft to broadcast their location so
- 9:40Speaker 2: the air traffic controllers could get it and other aircraft
- 9:43Speaker 2: that had ADSBN could get it. However, there was an
- 9:47Speaker 2: MoU a memoranda of understanding with the army that exempted
- 9:51Speaker 2: a lot of army flights. This was a training flight.
- 9:55Speaker 2: This was not a vital national security flight. This was
- 9:58Speaker 2: not like they were transporting nuclear secrets. This was a
- 10:01Speaker 2: training flight. But they did not have functioning adsb out
- 10:07Speaker 2: on in a way that anyone could see. I think
- 10:11Speaker 2: that exemption makes no sense, and so part of the
- 10:14Speaker 2: Rotor Act is ending that exemption and saying, look, if
- 10:16Speaker 2: you're flying commercial airspace, you need to have adsb out on.
- 10:21Speaker 2: That was one component. The second component is adsb in,
- 10:25Speaker 2: which is the ability to see the other signals. Now
- 10:28Speaker 2: it varies many Many large airline flights typically have adsb in,
- 10:34Speaker 2: but a lot of other flights do not. And the impediment,
- 10:39Speaker 2: as you noted, it was cost that twenty years ago,
- 10:41Speaker 2: it was fairly expensive to put this on. It's not
- 10:44Speaker 2: that expensive anymore. And one of the things I've done
- 10:47Speaker 2: over the last six months is that I've met with
- 10:49Speaker 2: a lot of the stakeholders. I've met with the airlines,
- 10:51Speaker 2: I've met with general Aviation, I've met with a lot
- 10:54Speaker 2: of the folks that are flying, and you can actually
- 10:57Speaker 2: get adsb in with an eyepad and fairly inexpensive technology.
- 11:02Speaker 2: So it's not you're not talking like one hundred thousand
- 11:05Speaker 2: dollars upgrade on a plane. You're talking for relatively low cost,
- 11:09Speaker 2: maybe a couple hundred or couple thousand dollars. You can
- 11:13Speaker 2: have an iPad and the technology to have ADSPN, so
- 11:16Speaker 2: it doesn't cost a lot, but it makes the flying
- 11:19Speaker 2: public a lot safer. And I want you to listen
- 11:21Speaker 2: right now. I want you to listen first of all,
- 11:24Speaker 2: to what I had said about the roator Act, and
- 11:26Speaker 2: that I want you to listen to Secretary Duffy, the
- 11:28Speaker 2: Transportation Secretary so start with what I said at the
- 11:32Speaker 2: press conference today.
- 11:34Speaker 4: Well, good morning.
- 11:36Speaker 2: Today is an auspicious day for aviation safety, a day marked,
- 11:42Speaker 2: I hope, by a revived spirit of hope and a
- 11:45Speaker 2: shared determination act in the face of an unforgettable tragedy.
- 11:49Speaker 2: American skies must be as safe as possible, and our
- 11:53Speaker 2: duty as lawmakers is to ensure that they are. I
- 11:57Speaker 2: would like to start by thanking the individuals who are
- 11:59Speaker 2: joining me for the introduction of the Rotorcraft Operations Transparency
- 12:04Speaker 2: and Oversight Reform or the rot Act. Secretary Duffy, Chairwoman Hammandy,
- 12:11Speaker 2: Tim and Sherry, Lily, Doug Lane, and my colleagues have
- 12:17Speaker 2: all worked hard to make the American skies safer. Tim, Sherry, Doug,
- 12:25Speaker 2: thank you for your courage and your advocacy. Your presence
- 12:29Speaker 2: reminds us of what is at stake. You've turned your
- 12:34Speaker 2: grief into purpose. We are here today because of your
- 12:39Speaker 2: efforts and the memory of Tim and Sherry, your son, Doug,
- 12:43Speaker 2: your son, Doug, your wife and son, and all of
- 12:47Speaker 2: the loved ones that were lost.
- 12:50Speaker 4: Over the Potomac.
- 12:52Speaker 2: The Rotor Act represents a common sense step forward in
- 12:57Speaker 2: aviation safety reform. Most important parts of this bill is
- 13:01Speaker 2: the requirement that all aircraft, military and civilian use both
- 13:07Speaker 2: ADSB OUT and ADSB in.
- 13:12Speaker 4: ADSB is critical for aviation safety.
- 13:16Speaker 2: This technology allows aircraft to broadcast their positions and to
- 13:19Speaker 2: receive positions of others in real time, faster than other
- 13:24Speaker 2: technology in use today. It gives pilots and air traffic
- 13:28Speaker 2: control a clear view of what is happening in the skies.
- 13:33Speaker 2: The NTSB first recommended ADSB in nearly twenty years ago.
- 13:40Speaker 2: We are going to make that happen this year. Make
- 13:44Speaker 2: no mistake, there cannot be a double standard in aviation safety.
- 13:50Speaker 2: We should not tolerate special exceptions for military training flights
- 13:55Speaker 2: operating in congested airspace. No matter the circumstances, any aircraft
- 14:01Speaker 2: flying near commercial traffic must fully adhere to safety standards.
- 14:07Speaker 2: Given the communications breakdown that led to the accident, it
- 14:12Speaker 2: is also important to address helicopter routes in congested commercial airspace.
- 14:18Speaker 2: We cannot have commercial airplanes and helicopters on a collision
- 14:25Speaker 2: course ever. Again, this bill is based on two core principles,
- 14:31Speaker 2: technological transparency.
- 14:33Speaker 4: And institutional responsibility.
- 14:36Speaker 2: While American skies are among the safest globally, this safety
- 14:41Speaker 2: is not always assured.
- 14:43Speaker 4: I want to be clear. The Senate will lead this effort.
- 14:47Speaker 2: We will not wait for another accident to happen before
- 14:51Speaker 2: we act decisively.
- 14:53Speaker 4: To protect the American skies.
- 14:56Speaker 2: We have made it abundantly clear that when American lives
- 14:59Speaker 2: are at risk, excuses are not acceptable. However, this is
- 15:04Speaker 2: about more than policy.
- 15:05Speaker 4: It's about people.
- 15:07Speaker 2: The family standing here. They didn't ask to be a
- 15:11Speaker 2: part of the story. However they stand with the courage
- 15:14Speaker 2: to ensure that it has a better ending for others.
- 15:19Speaker 2: This is the kind of legacy we should all aspire
- 15:21Speaker 2: to build. Thank you, and I now recognize the Secretary
- 15:25Speaker 2: of Transportation Sean Duffy to give his remarks.
- 15:30Speaker 1: Sean, you know that the night that this plane crash
- 15:32Speaker 1: happened was the night he was actually sworn in, and
- 15:35Speaker 1: that was the first day on the job for him.
- 15:37Speaker 1: First I know the job. Yeah, I mean that evening.
- 15:39Speaker 1: I remember seeing his family heading into where his office
- 15:43Speaker 1: was going to be and then apparently he's there and
- 15:46Speaker 1: then immediately has to deal with this, and obviously that
- 15:49Speaker 1: impact him in a major way. You know him well,
- 15:52Speaker 1: I know Sean, well. I can't imagine your first time
- 15:55Speaker 1: in the job this is what you were dealing with,
- 15:56Speaker 1: this type of tragedy, and it seems to be a
- 15:59Speaker 1: realis point for him.
- 16:01Speaker 2: Sewn is a really good man. He's become a good friend.
- 16:04Speaker 2: He's doing a great job as President Trump's Secretary of Transportation.
- 16:08Speaker 2: But this was baptism by fire. He had not been
- 16:10Speaker 2: on the job twenty four hours when this accident occurred,
- 16:13Speaker 2: and he doped right in the middle of it. And
- 16:15Speaker 2: he's been dealing with the aftermath. And I want you
- 16:17Speaker 2: to listen to him now at the press conference today
- 16:21Speaker 2: about our legislation. Here's Secretary of Transportation Sean Duffy.
- 16:25Speaker 3: This is not partisan. Safety is not partisan. It is
- 16:29Speaker 3: Democrats and Republicans, House, Senate, dot FAA, the President's administration,
- 16:37Speaker 3: all of us want to make sure we're safe and
- 16:40Speaker 3: so Center, I commend you for this bold effort and
- 16:43Speaker 3: rallying the forces in this body to make sure we
- 16:47Speaker 3: lead and make sure our s guys continue to be
- 16:49Speaker 3: the safest in the world. And this is one giant leap.
- 16:53Speaker 3: This is going to help make that happen, and I
- 16:55Speaker 3: look forward to working with you and your colleagues to
- 16:58Speaker 3: advance this cause. So thank you for for driving again
- 17:03Speaker 3: twenty two years ago, the NTSP recommended this. By the way,
- 17:08Speaker 3: sometimes people get concerned about cost, and I don't think
- 17:12Speaker 3: we should be concerned about costs when it comes to safety.
- 17:14Speaker 3: But I was talking to the administrator of the FAA.
- 17:18Speaker 3: The cost to deploy this technology is not that great
- 17:23Speaker 3: for commercial aircraft or for the military. We can drive
- 17:27Speaker 3: safety way higher and also at a very affordable cost.
- 17:31Speaker 3: That's the benefit of the advancement of technology over the
- 17:35Speaker 3: course of the last twenty two years. And so this
- 17:38Speaker 3: is doable. And I think the American people expect this
- 17:42Speaker 3: from this body, this administration to keep them safe.
- 17:47Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, you wrap this up and you talk
- 17:49Speaker 1: about the family members that we're there for this. They
- 17:52Speaker 1: want to make sure this trategy never ever happens to
- 17:54Speaker 1: another family again, that seems to be clear, Sean. So
- 17:57Speaker 1: the big question becomes, is this going to be a
- 17:59Speaker 1: bipartisan thinking can you get it done? So?
- 18:02Speaker 2: I believe we will. And listen, they're sixty seven families
- 18:05Speaker 2: who lost a loved one that night, and those families
- 18:08Speaker 2: are grieving that they're in agony, and yet they're using
- 18:11Speaker 2: their agony to be advocates, and they're trying to use
- 18:15Speaker 2: that horrific tragedy to change the law to protect the
- 18:20Speaker 2: flying public so that there's not another family, so it's
- 18:22Speaker 2: not your family or my family that sometime in the
- 18:25Speaker 2: future loses a loved one on an air flight. And
- 18:27Speaker 2: I want you to listen right now to Tim Lily.
- 18:30Speaker 2: Tim is the father of the American Eagle co pilot
- 18:34Speaker 2: Sam Lily, and he was flying the American plane that
- 18:38Speaker 2: crashed in to the black Hawk helicopter. And actually Tim
- 18:44Speaker 2: himself was a black Hawk pilot, so he had flown
- 18:47Speaker 2: those exact roots right along Reagan Airport, so we had
- 18:51Speaker 2: a lot of experience with it, and yet tragically he
- 18:53Speaker 2: and his wife lost their son that night. Give a
- 18:56Speaker 2: listen to Tim Lily.
- 18:58Speaker 5: This is not gonna be Sam's legacy to die in
- 19:02Speaker 5: Vain sixty seven. Really great people lost their lives that night,
- 19:06Speaker 5: and there's no reason for that. What we have here
- 19:11Speaker 5: is legislation, if it's past, is going to close some
- 19:16Speaker 5: very important safety loopholes so that this never has to
- 19:19Speaker 5: happen again.
- 19:22Speaker 1: It's simple, right, We're going to close these loopholes.
- 19:26Speaker 2: Yeah, and and look to see the families standing together.
- 19:30Speaker 2: So I actually this evening, I had drinks with the
- 19:33Speaker 2: Secretary of the Army. And the Secretary of the Army
- 19:35Speaker 2: met today with the families of those whose lives were lost,
- 19:40Speaker 2: and he said it was a rough meeting. Look there,
- 19:43Speaker 2: they're pissed off. If your if your family was killed
- 19:47Speaker 2: that night, you'd be pissed off. You'd be pissed off
- 19:50Speaker 2: at the Army flight that crashed into the plane. You'd
- 19:53Speaker 2: be angry, you'd be saying what to change, and it
- 19:55Speaker 2: was apparently. Look, it was not an easy meeting. And
- 19:59Speaker 2: I respect the Secretary for going and listening and hearing
- 20:03Speaker 2: their pain. I respect the families for channeling that pain
- 20:08Speaker 2: into something productive.
- 20:09Speaker 4: It's easy to just if you lose.
- 20:12Speaker 2: A loved one, to mourn, to get angry, to be
- 20:15Speaker 2: angry at God, to be angry at the world. I mean,
- 20:18Speaker 2: that's a perfectly natural reaction. And yet I really admire
- 20:23Speaker 2: these families that they are. They feeling those sentiments, of course,
- 20:27Speaker 2: but they've made the conscious decision I'm going to channel
- 20:31Speaker 2: that anger into trying to make a difference and change
- 20:35Speaker 2: the laws. Now, now you asked, is this going to happen?
- 20:38Speaker 2: It needs to be bipartisan. Now, the bill I introduced
- 20:41Speaker 2: today is not bipartisan. No Democrats had joined it, and
- 20:44Speaker 2: I will say the Democrats, they filed their own legislation
- 20:47Speaker 2: that is partisan legislation that they decided they wanted to
- 20:51Speaker 2: tee off on President Trump and doze and have a
- 20:54Speaker 2: bunch of elements in the bill that have nothing to
- 20:57Speaker 2: do with safety but have everything to do with scoring
- 20:59Speaker 2: partisans and points. I think that's not very productive. This
- 21:04Speaker 2: bill is designed to be bipartisan, and it is one
- 21:08Speaker 2: of the advantages of chairing the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science,
- 21:11Speaker 2: and Transportation. I'm going to see up this bill. We
- 21:15Speaker 2: are going to mark up this spill. Every member of
- 21:19Speaker 2: the Commerce Committee is going to vote on this bill.
- 21:21Speaker 2: I think we're going to get overwhelming bipartisan support for
- 21:25Speaker 2: this bill. It needs to be bipartisan. There's nothing in
- 21:29Speaker 2: this bill that from a Republican side, is partisan. There's
- 21:31Speaker 2: nothing that I put that is a crazy right wing priority.
- 21:35Speaker 2: This is designed to keep the flying public safer. This
- 21:39Speaker 2: is a common sense provision. So I believe we will
- 21:42Speaker 2: get bipartisan support. I believe it will be passed into law,
- 21:45Speaker 2: and my prediction, Ben this will be signed into law
- 21:48Speaker 2: this year and it will make everyone who flies safer.
- 21:53Speaker 1: I want to move to the other topic that we
- 21:55Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, and that deals with the FBI right now
- 21:58Speaker 1: and new intel that's coming out, and I got to
- 22:02Speaker 1: say a lot of people are going to be shocked
- 22:04Speaker 1: by it. I'm not surprised at all by this. And
- 22:08Speaker 1: I want to get your take on now what we're
- 22:10Speaker 1: learning about the FBI with the Russia Russia Russia hoax
- 22:14Speaker 1: and the controversial Trump Russia actions predicted with alarming accuracy
- 22:20Speaker 1: by foreign actors. I mean, you look at this coming
- 22:23Speaker 1: out now, and it's just a joke. How incredible this
- 22:27Speaker 1: whole I call it a play. It was a movie.
- 22:29Speaker 1: It's a script, and everybody was playing on the script
- 22:31Speaker 1: that they knew was a lie.
- 22:33Speaker 2: That's right. But I want to take a minute and
- 22:35Speaker 2: sort of pull the curtain back for our listeners. So
- 22:38Speaker 2: we do this podcast, and we do this podcast sometimes
- 22:41Speaker 2: late at night, so it is twelve to fifty five am.
- 22:44Speaker 2: So look, men is half asleep. To be honest, he's
- 22:47Speaker 2: been asleep for two hours and we woke him to
- 22:49Speaker 2: do this. So the headline of this story says that
- 22:54Speaker 2: it was predicted with alarming specificity. Yes, that's true, And
- 22:59Speaker 2: I want sheld to Doe. We recorded this, and this
- 23:02Speaker 2: is one of the advantages doing a podcast. When you
- 23:04Speaker 2: record it and screw it up, you can just stop
- 23:06Speaker 2: and rewind and do it again. We recorded it, and
- 23:09Speaker 2: twice Benjamin was unable to say the words specificity.
- 23:15Speaker 1: He tried a tough one specific I can't say it now, see.
- 23:19Speaker 2: And I will confess I kept making it harder because
- 23:22Speaker 2: I kept saying fescipicity and.
- 23:25Speaker 1: I can say that word, no problem, right, That one's easy.
- 23:29Speaker 2: So finally, after after twice crashing and burning on saying specificity,
- 23:35Speaker 2: he just said with alarming accuracy. By the way, the
- 23:39Speaker 2: quote is not accuracy, it's specificity.
- 23:42Speaker 1: But I didn't say quote unquote. See, I covered myself there.
- 23:45Speaker 2: You didn't say the word quote. But I just wanted
- 23:47Speaker 2: our listeners to know that that that like the specificity.
- 23:51Speaker 1: With real at one am, that is accurate, not one am.
- 23:56Speaker 2: It's twelve fifty seven. You got three minutes till one am.
- 24:00Speaker 2: All right, so let's cover the under But but this
- 24:04Speaker 2: is the important stuff to understand. Look, these these are
- 24:07Speaker 2: real human beings. I'm in my DC apartment, you're in
- 24:12Speaker 2: a hotel room. I think, is that right now?
- 24:14Speaker 1: I'm in I'm in a house in Pinehurst, North Carolina.
- 24:17Speaker 1: So that's where the World Championships is.
- 24:20Speaker 2: Look that that that that's pretty fancy and sheishi And
- 24:23Speaker 2: you've got to be up at like six thirty is
- 24:25Speaker 2: tea time?
- 24:25Speaker 4: Is that right?
- 24:26Speaker 1: It's it's a six eighteen or something absurd.
- 24:29Speaker 2: Six eighteen all right, Benjamin. While you're at tea time,
- 24:32Speaker 2: I will be fast asleep.
- 24:34Speaker 1: I believe you. I believe, and you'll be dreaming about
- 24:38Speaker 1: the alarming specifificity the word I can you still can't
- 24:41Speaker 1: say it. Come on specificity, Just say it once specificity.
- 24:46Speaker 1: There we go, there we go.
- 24:47Speaker 2: Look at that. By the way, you know what I
- 24:49Speaker 2: did Monday on the on the flight to DC.
- 24:52Speaker 1: Wait, say that again?
- 24:53Speaker 2: Do you know what I did Monday in the flight
- 24:55Speaker 2: to DC?
- 24:56Speaker 1: What did you do?
- 24:57Speaker 2: I watched Happy Gilmore two have you?
- 25:01Speaker 1: It's so good? It is. I love when they don't
- 25:04Speaker 1: screw when they don't screw up a sequel like Top
- 25:07Speaker 1: Gun Maverick. They killed it right, Happy Gilmore. It's been
- 25:11Speaker 1: not happy.
- 25:12Speaker 2: Maybe better than Happy Gilmore, like you know, a really.
- 25:15Speaker 1: Good and and by the way, did you see it coming?
- 25:19Speaker 1: Because I did not whin hold on spoiler word if
- 25:21Speaker 1: you haven't been watched it yet, turned down for five seconds.
- 25:24Speaker 1: When that when he killed his wife with the golf ball?
- 25:26Speaker 1: Did I did not see that coming? Did you?
- 25:28Speaker 2: I did not see that coming either. I. I will say,
- 25:31Speaker 2: by the way, as a complete aside, I've gotten to
- 25:34Speaker 2: know Adam Sandler's producer. You know, he's a big hoops player.
- 25:38Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, I'm told that Sandler. I've invited
- 25:41Speaker 2: him come play hoops with with me and he said yes,
- 25:44Speaker 2: so hadn't happened yet. But I'm actually really psyched because
- 25:48Speaker 2: Sandler and I are almost exactly the same age, and
- 25:50Speaker 2: he's a serious ballplayer. And as you know, I play
- 25:53Speaker 2: hoops twice a week.
- 25:56Speaker 1: Do I say, count me in for that game. I'd
- 25:58Speaker 1: like to be there for that game.
- 26:00Speaker 2: Okay, don't injure Adam Sandler like he is a national
- 26:03Speaker 2: comedic treasure. And I will say, I played hoops with you.
- 26:07Speaker 2: The last time I played hoops with you broke your finger.
- 26:10Speaker 1: You're a large I'm not worried about him, worried about me.
- 26:13Speaker 2: And you throw your body around pretty physically, which I admire.
- 26:17Speaker 2: Like I'm like, screw it. If you can't take the heat,
- 26:19Speaker 2: get out of the kitchen. But I'm just saying, don't
- 26:21Speaker 2: injure Adam Sandler.
- 26:23Speaker 1: There you go. That'd be one heck of a headline, right, all.
- 26:26Speaker 2: Right, let's get back. We actually had a story to do,
- 26:28Speaker 2: but I just had to I had to call you
- 26:30Speaker 2: out because you like magically edited out. You're screwing up
- 26:34Speaker 2: the word and yeah, so I just had to like
- 26:37Speaker 2: bring our listeners in and say, you know, sometimes the
- 26:39Speaker 2: magic of podcast is not exactly what you think.
- 26:43Speaker 1: All right, yeah, you know, I'm ready go for it.
- 26:45Speaker 4: I'm ready, good, go ahead, say what you're gonna say.
- 26:47Speaker 1: No, no, I was gonna say. So this is the
- 26:49Speaker 1: part that laugh when you when you do radio like
- 26:51Speaker 1: I did three three hours a day. My producer Diaz,
- 26:54Speaker 1: who does this show as well, when that would happen.
- 26:57Speaker 1: The worst part is he's just laughing at me through
- 27:00Speaker 1: the glass on the other side of the wall because
- 27:02Speaker 1: it's live and there's nothing you can do to fix it,
- 27:05Speaker 1: and so he just laughs in my face. So now
- 27:07Speaker 1: this is like my weird revenge because for how many
- 27:10Speaker 1: years we worked here Diez twelve, thirteen, fourteen, I don't
- 27:13Speaker 1: even know how many it is. He just used to
- 27:15Speaker 1: just laugh at me, and now he actually has to
- 27:18Speaker 1: go back and fix it. So I'm like, the joke's
- 27:19Speaker 1: on you, buddy, the joke's on you. So yeah, when
- 27:21Speaker 1: it's live, there's nothing you can do about it. So
- 27:24Speaker 1: with all that specificity, the word I can't say is
- 27:26Speaker 1: still the night for some reason. Let's get back to
- 27:29Speaker 1: the event.
- 27:30Speaker 2: I still reported on this story with alarming fesipicity. And
- 27:35Speaker 2: let me read from the Fox News story quote. US
- 27:38Speaker 2: intelligence has credible foreign sources indicating that the FBI would
- 27:42Speaker 2: play a role in spreading the salacious Trump Russia collusion
- 27:45Speaker 2: narrative before the bureau ever launched it's controversial crossfire Hurricane probe,
- 27:52Speaker 2: sources familiar with the intel told Fox News Digital see
- 27:56Speaker 2: I director John Ratcliffe is expected to decline classify the
- 28:00Speaker 2: underlying intelligence, including a classified annex related to former Special
- 28:06Speaker 2: Counsel John Durham's investigation into the origins of the Trump
- 28:10Speaker 2: Russia probe. A source familiar with the contents of the
- 28:13Speaker 2: classified annex told Fox News Digital that while it may
- 28:17Speaker 2: not have been exactly clear in the moment what the
- 28:19Speaker 2: intelligent collection meant, with the benefit of hindsight, it predicted
- 28:24Speaker 2: the FBI's move with alarming specificity, and it goes on to.
- 28:30Speaker 1: Say, there's your quote, there you go quote.
- 28:34Speaker 2: Ultimately, the release of the classified annex will lend more
- 28:38Speaker 2: credibility to the assertion that there was a coordinated plan
- 28:41Speaker 2: inside the US government to help the Clinton campaign stir
- 28:45Speaker 2: up controversy connecting Trump to Russia. The source who was
- 28:49Speaker 2: granted anonymity to discussed the sense of intelligence matters that
- 28:52Speaker 2: have not yet been made public, told Fox News Digital, quote,
- 28:56Speaker 2: mere days after this intelligence was collected, the FBI launched
- 29:02Speaker 2: Crossfire Hurricane. The source said, quote, it is really hard
- 29:07Speaker 2: to see how Brennan, Clapper and Comy are going to
- 29:11Speaker 2: be able to explain this away.
- 29:14Speaker 1: You put that in perspective, and I think it's fair
- 29:16Speaker 1: to say at this point, everything we were hearing during
- 29:19Speaker 1: the back of the day on this it was all
- 29:22Speaker 1: just straight up government propaganda and the media was one
- 29:25Speaker 1: hundred percent in on it.
- 29:28Speaker 2: Well, it was not just government propaganda. It was driven
- 29:32Speaker 2: by the Hillary Clinton campaign. It was opposition research that
- 29:35Speaker 2: they paid for and then they gave to the Obama
- 29:38Speaker 2: administration to launder it. They laundered it through the FBI,
- 29:41Speaker 2: They laundered it through the Department of Justice, and in
- 29:45Speaker 2: it was the federal government attacking Donald Trump because they
- 29:48Speaker 2: did not want Donald Donald Trump to be president. And
- 29:52Speaker 2: the degree to which the government was complicit in partisan politics,
- 29:58Speaker 2: but not just partisan politics, partisan politics. That was false.
- 30:02Speaker 2: That was a lie. This was made up. The Russia
- 30:06Speaker 2: hoax was a hoax. It was concocted through the Hillary
- 30:10Speaker 2: Clinton campaign. It was laundered through the FBI and the
- 30:14Speaker 2: Department of Justice, and it was a lie. That was
- 30:18Speaker 2: a political attack job. And I want to commend John Ratcliffe,
- 30:22Speaker 2: the head of the CIA, a good friend of mine,
- 30:25Speaker 2: for making this public, for drawing accountability and truth to
- 30:31Speaker 2: what occurred.
- 30:33Speaker 1: What do you think is going to come from this
- 30:35Speaker 1: because there's so many I think just gruntled and frustrated
- 30:38Speaker 1: Americans that hear those things and like, all right, we're
- 30:40Speaker 1: now getting more and more confirmation this happened. Will there
- 30:43Speaker 1: be any real accountability? And does this move us closer
- 30:46Speaker 1: to that? So?
- 30:48Speaker 2: I hope so that there needs to be accountability. And
- 30:51Speaker 2: I will say, you have Telsey Gabbard who released her
- 30:55Speaker 2: bombshell information about the degree of the complicity of the administration,
- 31:02Speaker 2: and if you didn't hear our podcast last week on this.
- 31:06Speaker 2: You should listen to the podcast on Tulsi Gabbert's bombshell information.
- 31:10Speaker 2: I hope there is accountability I call on on the
- 31:13Speaker 2: Department of Justice. I also had when I was having
- 31:16Speaker 2: drinks with the Army Secretary, I also had drinks with
- 31:18Speaker 2: the Deputy Attorney General of the United States, and so
- 31:21Speaker 2: I was urging DOJ follow the facts and prosecute anyone
- 31:26Speaker 2: who is complicit. There are challenges because some of the
- 31:29Speaker 2: people who were involved in this, their criminal conduct was
- 31:33Speaker 2: before the statute of limitations expired, and so it is
- 31:36Speaker 2: harder to prosecute someone who committed criminal conduct after the
- 31:40Speaker 2: statute limitations has expired. Andrew McCabe, who was the deputy
- 31:44Speaker 2: director of the FBI, he testified before Congress. He testified falsely,
- 31:49Speaker 2: and the statute of limitations has not yet expired on
- 31:51Speaker 2: his testimony. So if I were to predict the single
- 31:55Speaker 2: most likely person in the Obama administration of face prosecution,
- 31:59Speaker 2: it would be Andrew mc because there's still a window
- 32:02Speaker 2: where he lied to Congress and it's within the statute limitations.
- 32:06Speaker 1: Really incredible. We're gonna keep you updated on all this.
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