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What Pam Bondi’s Exit Means for Trump’s Justice Agenda · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is an agency that is near and dear to
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  Speaker 1: my heart as a former assistant the United States Attorney
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  Speaker 1: it's critical that we have a great leader at the
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  Speaker 1: top of the Department of Justice. Obviously, we thank Pam
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  Speaker 1: for our service and she's served the administration for this
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  Speaker 1: first fifteen months. But the next person who's heading the
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  Speaker 1: Department of Justice has got to be aggressive. We have
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  Speaker 1: a limited period right now with President Trump and the
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  Speaker 1: White House, with the House Republicans and Center Republicans, we
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  Speaker 1: have got to be on offense for a justice and accountability.
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  Speaker 2: You're listening to the forty seven Morning Update with Ben ferguson.
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  Speaker 3: Good Friday morning. Nice to have you with us on
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  Speaker 3: the forty seven Morning Update, and we've got one big
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  Speaker 3: story for you coming out of the White House. The
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  Speaker 3: President has decided to make a switch when it comes
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  Speaker 3: to who is the Attorney General of the United States
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  Speaker 3: of America. Pambondy is out. So what does this mean
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  Speaker 3: and who could fill the job. I've got all the
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  Speaker 3: seven Morning Update, and it starts right now.
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  Speaker 2: Story number one.
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  Speaker 3: There was major news coming out of the White House
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  Speaker 3: today and that was the reporting that Pambondi has been
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  Speaker 3: fired from any official position in the Trump administration. I
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  Speaker 3: want to walk you through exactly what happened here and
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  Speaker 3: why it's happening, so you understand. Over the last twenty
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  Speaker 3: four hours, there have been rumors circulating all over Washington
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  Speaker 3: that Pambondi was either fired, forced out, or stepping down
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  Speaker 3: amid internal conflict. However, none of those claims well became
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  Speaker 3: the real story until the White House made it very
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  Speaker 3: clear that she was out of a job. Here's how
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  Speaker 3: the news broke on Fox News Channel.
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  Speaker 4: Kaylee, I just got off the phone with President Trump.
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  Speaker 4: We have a big scoope. Pam Bondi will soon leave
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  Speaker 4: her job as the Attorney General. She is going to
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  Speaker 4: get a different job within the administration. It doesn't sound
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  Speaker 4: like there is any bad blood between her and President Trump,
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  Speaker 4: but it does seem like they want her to go
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  Speaker 4: and do something else, and in an interim role. She
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  Speaker 4: will be replaced by Todd Blanche who is currently her
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  Speaker 4: deputy at the Justice Department. So it doesn't sound like
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  Speaker 4: Blanche is being elevated long term to the attorney General.
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  Speaker 4: There might be somebody else that the President wants to
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  Speaker 4: go in there. But President Trump soon will announce to
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  Speaker 4: the entire world that it is the end of Pam
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  Speaker 4: Bondi's time as the Attorney General. He still thinks that
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  Speaker 4: she is a great person and that she did a
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  Speaker 4: good job, and he still wants her in the because
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  Speaker 4: she will still be an important part of the administration,
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  Speaker 4: he tells me, but no longer as the top law
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  Speaker 4: enforcement officer of the United States. That at least for
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  Speaker 4: a little while, is going to be Todd Blanche Or do.
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  Speaker 1: You see that right here?
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  Speaker 5: First, that's rather a big news. And I'm sure you
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  Speaker 5: don't have answer to this, but there have been some
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  Speaker 5: rumored names to replace her. Did you happen to catch
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  Speaker 5: that so far?
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  Speaker 1: Tom Blanche.
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  Speaker 3: Now, even as that news broke, there were still questions
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  Speaker 3: being asked. Hold on a second, was Pam Bonni fired?
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  Speaker 3: Was she not fired? And is she actually going to
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  Speaker 3: stay within the administration. Well, here's a new headline from
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  Speaker 3: the New York Post right now. Pam Bonnie speaks out
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  Speaker 3: for the first time after Trump fired her as the
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  Speaker 3: Attorney General Now the former US Attorney General, Pam Bondi
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  Speaker 3: is their headline. Spoke out after being fired for her
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  Speaker 3: perch as the head of the Justice Department and teased
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  Speaker 3: her new private sector role where she will continue fighting
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  Speaker 3: for President Trump. She put with this out on next
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  Speaker 3: saying quote, leading President Trump's historic and highly successful efforts
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  Speaker 3: to make America safer and more secure has been the
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  Speaker 3: honor of lifetime and easily the most consequential first year
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  Speaker 3: of the Department of Justice in American history. I remain
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  Speaker 3: internally grateful for the trust that President Trump placed in
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  Speaker 3: me to make America safe again.
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  Speaker 6: Now.
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  Speaker 3: Trump's decision to axe Bondi came weeks after making the
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  Speaker 3: first cabinet level firing of his administration. That is where
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  Speaker 3: he terminated the former Secretary of Homeland Security, Christy Nome,
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  Speaker 3: who is now serving a Special Envoy to the Shield
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  Speaker 3: of the Americas. Bondi is getting a new private sector role,
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  Speaker 3: is what she said, where she will be allied with
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  Speaker 3: the administration, but details of that position are not fully
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  Speaker 3: clear at this moment. In the meantime, Trump is tapped
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  Speaker 3: a Deputy Attorney General, Todd Blanch to serve as interim
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  Speaker 3: ag while he decides on a permanent replacement. The name
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  Speaker 3: that I'm hearing the most right now is the EPA
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  Speaker 3: administrator Lee Zelden. Apparently he is seriously considering looking at
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  Speaker 3: him for the job. Bonnie also added on x this,
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  Speaker 3: I will be working tirelessly to transition the office of
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  Speaker 3: Attorney General to the amazing Todd Blanche before moving to
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  Speaker 3: an important private sector role I'm thrilled about and where
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  Speaker 3: I will continue to fight for President Trump and this
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  Speaker 3: administration now. President Trump told Pam Bondi in person on
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  Speaker 3: Wednesday that she was on the outs. The source had
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  Speaker 3: told The Post that conversation took place after the two
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  Speaker 3: attended the Supreme Court's oral arguments in the birthright citizenship
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  Speaker 3: case earlier in the day. Bondi, who served as the
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  Speaker 3: Florida Attorney General from twenty eleven through twenty nineteen. It
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  Speaker 3: was a key ally of Trump in the twenty twenty
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  Speaker 3: election aftermath, has been the President's second choice to howme
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  Speaker 3: the DOJ after Representative Matt Gates's true She quickly faced
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  Speaker 3: controversy after claiming on Fox News last February that a
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  Speaker 3: list of late sex predator Jeffrey Epstein's clients was sitting
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  Speaker 3: on my desk right now to review later. MAGA influencers
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  Speaker 3: are welcome to the White House and given those binders
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  Speaker 3: that were titled the Epstein Files Phase one. White House
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  Speaker 3: Chief of Staff Susie Wilds later told Vanny Fair in
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  Speaker 3: an interview last year that Bonnie completely whiffed the Epstein situation,
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  Speaker 3: chiding that there is no client list and it's sure
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  Speaker 3: as hell wasn't on her desk. Again, that coming from
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  Speaker 3: the White House Chief of Staff, and that is where
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  Speaker 3: the turmoil really began. Key allies of the President, such
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  Speaker 3: as Laura Lumer publicly and privately pushed Trump to get
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  Speaker 3: Bonni the boot after firing. Several Republicans in Congress, such
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  Speaker 3: as Representative Nancy Mace cheered Trump, who famously had a
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  Speaker 3: falling out with the ags of his first term Jeff
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  Speaker 3: Sessions and Bill Barr, appeared frustrated with the DJ's lackluster
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  Speaker 3: attempts to prosecute some of his political foes. Is what
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  Speaker 3: many in the media are also trying to spend this
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  Speaker 3: ass Now, let me be clear, a lot of this
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  Speaker 3: really did come down to the Epstein Files. Trey Goudie,
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  Speaker 3: talking on Fox News Channel had this to say about it.
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  Speaker 5: Todd will do a great job, and I know the
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  Speaker 5: President thinks highly of him.
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  Speaker 6: She obviously had some dusk stops up on Capitol Hill
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  Speaker 6: numerous times whenever she went up there to testify. Here
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  Speaker 6: she is versus GOP lawmakers. I moved that the Committee
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  Speaker 6: issue a subpoena to the Honorable Pamela Joe Bondi to
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  Speaker 6: apear before the Committee for a deposition regarding the department's
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  Speaker 6: handling of the investigation to Jeffrey Epstein.
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  Speaker 2: Within forty minutes, Wexter's name was added back.
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  Speaker 6: Within forty minutes of me catching you red handed, nobody
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  Speaker 6: on our side is defending pam Bondy. Okay, sue that
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  Speaker 6: what built up do you think that handling early on
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  Speaker 6: of Epstein? I know you say she's not tied to it,
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  Speaker 6: but how it was handled early on?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, but it wasn't just her bred I mean, how
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  Speaker 5: many different podcasters and other folks promised us all this
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  Speaker 5: information on Jeffrey Epstein, and those of us that actually
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  Speaker 5: were prosecutors were sitting there thinking, you've had three opportunities.
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  Speaker 5: You had Florida, you had Maxwell before she was convicted,
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  Speaker 5: and you had Epstein before he killed himself. So where
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  Speaker 5: are the co conspirators? The problem was whenever you And
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  Speaker 5: it wasn't just Pam. There are other members of this
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  Speaker 5: administration that wrote checks with their mouths that the rest
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  Speaker 5: of their body couldn't catch. Now you played a clip
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  Speaker 5: from somebody who's running for governor in South Carolina. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: why would you subpoena a Republican attorney general when all
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  Speaker 5: you have to do is what I did this morning,
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  Speaker 5: call her on the phone. So she was a victim,
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  Speaker 5: a little bit of other people's ambition light now a victim,
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  Speaker 5: a little bit of getting out over her skis. But
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  Speaker 5: let's be allus. When did we start releasing files?
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  Speaker 4: Brett?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I haven't seen the Matt Gates file, have you.
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  Speaker 5: I haven't seen the job in a Ramsey file. When
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  Speaker 5: did we start releasing files?
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  Speaker 3: One thing is sure, it's the president said it was
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  Speaker 3: time for someone new. Pam BONDI will go to the
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  Speaker 3: private sector, she said, and support the president. What will
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  Speaker 3: be very interesting to see is who gets the job now,
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  Speaker 3: and we expect that to come very shortly. And when
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  Speaker 3: that name is named, we'll give it to you.
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