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Foreign Nations Influencing Our Colleges & Universities plus DEADLY Force for Mar-a-Lago Raid Approved by AG Garland · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Well, Happy Memorial Day from all of us here at
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  Speaker 1: a moment and pause is remind everyone in your family,
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  Speaker 1: today and honoring veterans as I cook out having some
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  Speaker 1: thank you, and I hope that you will do the
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  Speaker 1: same to anyone that you know that service country, thank
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  Speaker 1: them for their service to what they have done. And
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  Speaker 1: I hope that you have a fabulous Memorial Day with
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  Speaker 1: your family and your friends. And to many who are
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  Speaker 1: going to be sad and have a somber moral day
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  Speaker 1: remembering their loved ones that they've lost, don't forget them
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  Speaker 1: because today as we're grilling out, many of them are
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  Speaker 1: going to be visiting their loved ones in their funeral
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  Speaker 1: homes where they have laid to rest. And that is
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  Speaker 1: something that I will never forget, having family and friends
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  Speaker 1: of love people serving this country, and that is what
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  Speaker 1: they do on Memorial Day. Let's not forget the ultimate sacrifices.
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  Speaker 1: With that being said, also, I know so many of
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  Speaker 1: you are traveling. Be safe on the road. And here
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  Speaker 1: are some of the big subjects at the center, and
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  Speaker 1: I talked about this past couple of weeks that I
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  Speaker 1: want to make sure you hear about Center. Let's talk
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  Speaker 1: about the bigger overview picture. We have known for quite
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  Speaker 1: some time, but it's really come out recently that there
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  Speaker 1: was a lot of money coming in from foreign nations
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  Speaker 1: that are avisaris US into college campuses. We now see
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  Speaker 1: what they were buying, which was they were buying influence
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  Speaker 1: over a generation. We see massive donations that went into
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  Speaker 1: the Biden Pen Center, for example, directly from China. And
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  Speaker 1: now we're saying that it's not just buying influence to
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  Speaker 1: change hearts and minds of college students at the Ivy
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  Speaker 1: Leagues and other schools. But now they moved into direct
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  Speaker 1: activism with these campus protest which seems to be phase
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  Speaker 1: two of their plan.
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  Speaker 2: Ben That's exactly right. There's a major report that came
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  Speaker 2: out on Monday this week from NCRI. NCRI is the
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  Speaker 2: Network Contagion Research Institute. This is the same group that
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  Speaker 2: put out the empirical studies of TikTok and how the
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  Speaker 2: Chinese Communist government was pushing communist propaganda on TikTok and
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  Speaker 2: it led to ultimately Congress passing the legislation forcing the
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  Speaker 2: Chinese Communist government either to sell TikTok or shut down
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  Speaker 2: in the US. So NCRA is CRI rather, there's a
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  Speaker 2: serious organization that does serious research. The report they put out,
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  Speaker 2: I want to go into it in detail because it's
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  Speaker 2: getting very little coverage and it should get a lot
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  Speaker 2: of coverage. Here's how it begins quote. This report analyzes
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  Speaker 2: the activities and foreign connections of the Shut It Down
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  Speaker 2: for Palestine SID four P movement since its formation in
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  Speaker 2: October twenty twenty three. It examines SID four p's use
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  Speaker 2: of protest, direct action initiatives and sophisticated media campaigns to
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  Speaker 2: advance anti America and anti Israel narratives, both online and offline. Additionally,
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  Speaker 2: it highlights the involvement of a network link to the
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  Speaker 2: Chinese Communist Party that funds and supports both alternative, anti
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  Speaker 2: establishing media organizations promoting anti American initiatives, as well as
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  Speaker 2: seemingly grassroots activist movements such as including SID four P.
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  Speaker 2: So here are the key takeaways and assessments. Number one
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  Speaker 2: SID four p's emergence. Shut It Down for Palestine is
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  Speaker 2: an anti capitalist, anti police, and anti government protest movement
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  Speaker 2: that emerged after October seventh, twenty twenty three. It functions
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  Speaker 2: as a hybrid online real world network for mobilizing frequent
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  Speaker 2: demonstrations as well as a gradually escal escalating direct action
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  Speaker 2: campaigns targeting critical infrastructure and public spaces. Two SID four
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  Speaker 2: p's ties to CCP linked entities. Conveners or organizations operating
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  Speaker 2: under the SID four P umbrella are members of the
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  Speaker 2: Singham Network donor portfolio. The Singham Network is a global
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  Speaker 2: network global web of nonprofits, fiscal sponsors, and alternative news
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  Speaker 2: sources tied to Neville Roy Singham, a known conduit for
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  Speaker 2: CCP geopolitical influence. Three SID four p's funding. The Singham
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  Speaker 2: Network exploits regulatory loopholes in the US nonprofit system to
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  Speaker 2: facilitate the flow of enormous sum of US dollars to
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  Speaker 2: organizations and movements that actively stoke social unrest at the
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  Speaker 2: grassroots level. Four Alternative media and social media strategy. Alternative
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  Speaker 2: media outlets associated with Singham Network have played a central
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  Speaker 2: role in online mobilization and cross platforms social amplification. For
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  Speaker 2: SID four P and five ties to extremist groups. SID
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  Speaker 2: four P has ties to extremist groups that embrace a
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  Speaker 2: violent single state resolution to the Israeli Palestinian conflict. At
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  Speaker 2: least one SID four P convener is linked to the
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  Speaker 2: extreme edge of pro Palestinian groups operating in the US
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  Speaker 2: that advance anti American and anti Jewish agendas. Let me
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  Speaker 1: obviously being orchestrated at the highest levels within these governments.
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  Speaker 1: And it's not just China, it's also Cuba that is
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  Speaker 1: involved in this as well, and this seems to be
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  Speaker 1: part two of their master plan. China and I'm guessing
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  Speaker 1: on this one, but based on what we've seen from
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  Speaker 1: disclosures on donations, probably is giving more money to American
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  Speaker 1: universities than any other nation would be my guess. And
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  Speaker 1: if they're not the top, they're probably one, two or three.
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  Speaker 1: I can't even imagine who would be above them. We
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  Speaker 1: see massive money coming into the Ivy League's, massive money
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  Speaker 1: that came in the Biden pen Center. The list goes
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  Speaker 1: on and on. But this is almost like, Okay, how
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  Speaker 1: do we infiltrate a country, how do we change the
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  Speaker 1: opinion of the people in that country, and then how
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  Speaker 1: do we literally have revolutions in that country? And they're
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  Speaker 1: doing it all in front of our very eyes and
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  Speaker 1: no one seems to be stopping it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that that is right, And if you look at
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  Speaker 2: this report from NCRI, it details how China is spending
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  Speaker 2: millions upwards up potentially one hundred million dollars funding these
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  Speaker 2: protests that are occurring on campuses, that are shutting down bridges,
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  Speaker 2: that are shutting down airports. And you might think, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: what does China care about Hamas, What does China care
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  Speaker 2: about it? And the truth of the matter is they don't.
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  Speaker 2: But they care about America. They care about tearing our
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  Speaker 2: country apart. They care about chaos and fomenting dissent and
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  Speaker 2: dissension that paralyzes our country. Let me read another portion
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  Speaker 2: from this report from the NCRI. Quote. On the evening
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  Speaker 2: of April thirtieth, twenty twenty four, over one hundred activists
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  Speaker 2: gathered at the People's Forum, a far left nonprofit in
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  Speaker 2: Manhattan that describes itself as a quote movement incubator for
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  Speaker 2: working class and marginalized communities, to discuss the ongoing gaza
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  Speaker 2: encampments on university campuses. The activists called on Columbia protesters
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  Speaker 2: to recreate the civil unrest associated with quote the summer
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  Speaker 2: of twenty twenty remember the Summer of Love. Hours later,
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  Speaker 2: Columbia University's Hamilton Hall was forcibly occupied and barricaded. After
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  Speaker 2: the hall was subsequently cleared by law enforcement, the New
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  Speaker 2: York Police Department reported finding industrial grade chains, US masks, earplugs, helmets, goggles, hammers, knives,
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  Speaker 2: and ropes. Following processing, the Washington Post reported per NYPD
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  Speaker 2: that more than twenty five percent of the arrest at
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  Speaker 2: Columbia University and sixty percent at the City College of
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  Speaker 2: New York were not students. This is communist China paying
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  Speaker 2: real money to disrupt America and to sow dissension. And
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  Speaker 2: by the way, this group of conveners, I'll read another
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  Speaker 2: portion of the report. SID four P was established and
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  Speaker 2: structured against the backdrop of increased pro Palestinian activism starting
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  Speaker 2: October twenty twenty three. On November first, SID four P
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  Speaker 2: officially registered its domain shut it down for Palestine dot org,
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  Speaker 2: and launched its site by November sixth. By November ninth,
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  Speaker 2: SID four P publicly list its seven core organizations referred to
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  Speaker 2: as conveners, as well as now numerous organizations referred to
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  Speaker 2: as endorsers, reflecting the confluence of far left and pro
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  Speaker 2: Palestinian radical activism. The official SID four P conveners include
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  Speaker 2: the following groups. One The People's Forum, two Answer Coalition,
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  Speaker 2: three the International People's Assembly, four Alada, New York five
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  Speaker 2: the National Students for Justice in Palestine NSJP, six the
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  Speaker 2: Palestinian Youth Movement, and seven the Palestinian American Community Center
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  Speaker 2: New Jersey. The seven conveners of SID four P can
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  Speaker 2: be divided into two distinct groupings based on ideological affiliation
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  Speaker 2: and fiscal sponsorship. The coalition's far left members, namely the
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  Speaker 2: People's Forum IPA and Answer Coalition, demonstrates significant financial, personnel,
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  Speaker 2: and operational overlap. The remaining four conveners are all pro
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  Speaker 2: Palestinian activist organizations, with at least two NSJP and al
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  Speaker 2: Adwa known to have ties to US designated terrorist organizations.
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  Speaker 2: In addition to NSJP and il a ADA, among SI
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  Speaker 2: D four p's endorsers is Submuduan, which some Western intelligence
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  Speaker 2: services classify as a front for the PFLP, the Popular
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  Speaker 2: Front for the Liberation of Palestine, which is designated as
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  Speaker 2: a foreign terrorist organization by the United States, Germany, and Israel.
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  Speaker 1: So the question that everyone I think that's listening right
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  Speaker 1: now is asking is how is this then legal? And
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  Speaker 1: if there's directies that are going back to terrorism, how
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  Speaker 1: is again this legal? And if foreign finds are coming
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  Speaker 1: in from our adversaries to pay and fund this anarchists
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  Speaker 1: on college campuses. How is that legal? Is there anything
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  Speaker 1: that the government can do to say we're allow this
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  Speaker 1: to happen? And we're talking about the finances.
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  Speaker 2: Of this, well, look, there should be an enormous amount.
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  Speaker 2: The Department of Justice should be investigating this, the FBI
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  Speaker 2: should be investigating this. We've got money coming from communist
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  Speaker 2: China behind these protests, behind these anti American, anti Israel protests.
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  Speaker 2: We've got money coming from organizations that have close ties
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  Speaker 2: to designated terrorist organizations. And so whether it is Hamas
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  Speaker 2: and Hesbela pushing this, whether it is affiliated allies of
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  Speaker 2: their pushing this, whether it is a Ran pushing this,
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  Speaker 2: or whether it's communist China pushing this, the FBI ought
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  Speaker 2: to be all over it. And I got to tell you, Ben,
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  Speaker 2: my level of confidence that the FBI and the Department
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  Speaker 2: of Justice is even looking at this is incredibly low, because, sadly,
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  Speaker 2: this Biden Department of Justice is so politicized that they're
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  Speaker 2: much more interested in tracking down some little old lady
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  Speaker 2: on the National Mall on January sixth who was waving
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  Speaker 2: an American flagging seeing God bless America and finding every
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  Speaker 2: Facebook post she put twenty years ago, than they are
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  Speaker 2: actually interested in finding communist China spending millions of dollars
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  Speaker 2: trying to rip America apart.
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  Speaker 1: And Senator, look, education and quality education and going to
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  Speaker 1: a prestigious school was something that you worked incredibly hard for.
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  Speaker 1: But you now look at what's happened at our colleges.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm talking about it our quote best colleges. How
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  Speaker 1: much of now what we're witnessing with them tolerating all
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  Speaker 1: of these protests the way that they did in the
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  Speaker 1: presence is because maybe they can't say no to the
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  Speaker 1: foreign cash and the amount of foreign cash and therefore
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  Speaker 1: foreign influence it's coming in from these same countries.
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  Speaker 2: Look, the foreign cash is enormous problem. And let me
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  Speaker 2: give you Let's look at the IVY League. So the
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  Speaker 2: Ivy League eight colleges have historically been among the very
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  Speaker 2: best colleges in America. I want us to look at
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  Speaker 2: the percentage of foreign students in the IVY League. So
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  Speaker 2: Brown University, what percent of foreign students do you think
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  Speaker 2: are at Brown? It's got to be twenty percent plus.
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  Speaker 2: I would guess nineteen percent. You're off by point. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: how many students two thousand and ninety eight Columbia University.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think the percentage is at Columbia twenty
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  Speaker 2: five thirty thirty eight percent. You want to know how
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  Speaker 2: many students that is? Fourteen thousand and eighty eight, fourteen
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  Speaker 2: thousand foreign students. Cornell University twenty six percent, Dartmouth College
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  Speaker 2: seventeen percent, Harvard University twenty two percent, Princeton University, Mi
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  Speaker 2: alma mater twenty three percent, University of Pennsylvania twenty three percent,
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  Speaker 2: Yale University twenty four percent. We are talking about thousands
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  Speaker 2: and thousands and tens of thousands of foreign students. Now,
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  Speaker 2: part of the reason the university's like these is because
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  Speaker 2: the foreign students all pay full freight, so it's a
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  Speaker 2: great money making endeavor. But why exactly are we educating
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  Speaker 2: people who among them and not all of the foreign
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  Speaker 2: students are that case? Look, my best friend in college,
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  Speaker 2: who you know well, David Panton, was Jamaica. He was
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  Speaker 2: a Ford and student. He came from Jamaica. He arrived
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  Speaker 2: at Princeton at sixteen. He was the best man at
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  Speaker 2: my wedding. He has been other than Heidi, my best
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  Speaker 2: friend in life. He was a Ford and student. That
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  Speaker 2: was great. That's very different a Jamaican kid who's talented
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  Speaker 2: and wants to go go get a good education. Or
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  Speaker 2: for that matter, my dad in nineteen fifty seven coming
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  Speaker 2: as a student from Cuba to the University of Texas.
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  Speaker 2: He came on a student visa. He came fleeing oppression.
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  Speaker 2: He'd been in prison, he'd been tortured, but he was
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  Speaker 2: coming seeking freedom. That is very different from bringing in
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of radical anti America, anti Israel radicals. Look,
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  Speaker 2: as far as I'm concerned, if you have a student
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  Speaker 2: on a student visa who gets out there and is
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  Speaker 2: burning an American flag and channing death to America, you
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  Speaker 2: should deport him that day. We have no obligation to
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  Speaker 2: allow people to come on student visas, which is permissive.
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  Speaker 2: It is a choice. It is a discretionary choice if
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  Speaker 2: they are going to tear down this country. And part
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  Speaker 2: of the problem with the Ivy League schools is when
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  Speaker 2: you're looking at anywhere from seventeen percent Dartmouth College at
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  Speaker 2: the low point to thirty eight percent Columbia University at
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  Speaker 2: the high point that are foreign students, you have a
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  Speaker 2: bunch of students who are not Americans, and far too
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  Speaker 2: many of them don't give a damn amount American or
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  Speaker 2: trying to tear America down.
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  Speaker 1: go back to the mar Lago raid, there was outrage
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  Speaker 1: enough just on that happening. Never in my wildest dreams
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  Speaker 1: would I have thought that I would have witnessed the
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  Speaker 1: breaking news that took place. That said, not only did
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  Speaker 1: the Biden administration and the Attorney General Merritt Garland authorize
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  Speaker 1: this raid. But on top of that, they authorized the
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  Speaker 1: use of deadly force.
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  Speaker 2: That's exactly right. According to a filing that was unsealed
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  Speaker 2: this week, here's what it says. Quote. According to an
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  Speaker 2: operations order produced in discovery, the FBI believed its objective
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  Speaker 2: for the Marlago raid was to seize quote classified information,
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  Speaker 2: NDI and US government records, as described in the search warrant.
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  Speaker 2: The order contained a policy statement regarding quote use of
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  Speaker 2: deadly force, which stated, for example, quote law enforcement officers
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  Speaker 2: of the Department of Justice may use deadly force when necessary.
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  Speaker 2: The agents planned to bring quote standard issue weapons AMMO,
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  Speaker 2: handcuffs and medium and large sized bolt cutters, but they
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: were instructed to wear unmarked polo or collared shirts.
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  Speaker 1: There's so many questions that I have right now. One
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  Speaker 1: of them center is the fact that it's like, were
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  Speaker 1: you setting this up to be a disaster? Because the
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  Speaker 1: Secret Services job is to protect the President of the
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  Speaker 1: United States of America former presidents at all costs. So
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  Speaker 1: if you send in the FBI and you give them this, hey,
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  Speaker 1: you've got authorized to use deadly force in this raid.
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  Speaker 1: And the Secret Service there whose job is to use
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  Speaker 1: deadly force to protect the former president the United States
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  Speaker 1: of America. Why would Merrick Garwin set up that disastrous
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  Speaker 1: situation even be a possibility.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and look, they were anticipating potential conflicts with Secret Service.
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  Speaker 2: So another one of the documents released says contingencies. Should
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  Speaker 2: media be President Marlago, all personnel will refer to MMOSC
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  Speaker 2: and I don't know all these acronyms, and I adhere
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  Speaker 2: to FBI media policy as briefed. Two. Should f potus
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  Speaker 2: former President of the United States arrive at mar A Lago,
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  Speaker 2: FBI mme EM and OSCs will be prepared to engage
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  Speaker 2: with f POTUS and US Secret Service security team so
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  Speaker 2: prepared to engage. Should US Secret Service provide resistance or
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  Speaker 2: interfere with FBI time line or accesses, FBI MMEM will
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  Speaker 2: engage with and it's blocked out. We don't know what
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  Speaker 2: it is and blocked out. Blocked out will engage with
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  Speaker 2: US Secret Services point of contact per existing liaison relationships.
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  Speaker 2: Should mar A Lago guest reception be unwilling to provide
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  Speaker 2: a list of occupied guest rooms, FBI search team will
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  Speaker 2: knock on each guest room door to determine occupation status.
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  Speaker 2: FBI will request a map, list of rooms and skeleton
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  Speaker 2: key slash card for all rooms from mar A Lago
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  Speaker 2: Staff five. An FBI MM slash TTA with lock picking
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  Speaker 2: equipment will be on the scene so their anticipate heating
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  Speaker 2: Secret Service may actively resist the FBI, and they're prepared
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  Speaker 2: to engage, And they're prepared to engage with an order
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  Speaker 2: that explicitly authorizes deadly force, like what in the hell.
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  Speaker 1: Let's remind people of Merrick Garland's own words, he was
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  Speaker 1: very proud of this raid. In August, yes, twenty twenty two.
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  Speaker 1: He went out there Justice Department, you know, insignia behind him,
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  Speaker 1: the Justice Department flag to his left, the American flag
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  Speaker 1: to his right, and he told the world in a
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  Speaker 1: live report everyone carried it this.
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  Speaker 3: There are, however, certain points I want you to know. First,
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  Speaker 3: I personally approved the decision to seek a search warrant
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  Speaker 3: in this matter. Second, the Department does not take such
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  Speaker 3: a decision.
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  Speaker 1: Lightly, clearly not, Senator, because they were planning for the
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  Speaker 1: use of deadly force to possibly be used.
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  Speaker 2: So let me give a caveat defending this in a
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  Speaker 2: tiny respect, and then let me take that caveat away.
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  Speaker 2: The caveat I would give is is is this sort
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  Speaker 2: of authorization. An authorization of use of deadly force is
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  Speaker 2: standard when the FBI is exercising a search warrant. Look,
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  Speaker 2: if you're exercising a search warrant in any context, if
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: you're going to a drug dealer's house or something else,
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  Speaker 2: there there is a risk of armed resistance, and so
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  Speaker 2: an authorization of of of deadly forces is typical with
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: with a search warrant. That's the caveat. Now I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to take back every so little of every word of
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  Speaker 2: what I just said. Holy crap, this was the President
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  Speaker 2: of the United States. Are you out of your mind?
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  Speaker 2: Like like like this is And for Merrick Garland to
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  Speaker 2: say I personally approved it the absolute hubris of this administration. Listen,
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  Speaker 2: Merrick Garland is drunk with power. He believes he should
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: be on the Supreme Court, and he is engaged in
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: a global revenge tour against everyone he thinks who wronged him.
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  Speaker 2: But is there no judgment on the part of the
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  Speaker 2: Attorney general. Is there no judgment on the part of
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  Speaker 2: the Deputy Attorney General? Is there no judgment on the
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  Speaker 2: part of any advisors anywhere at DOJ. Is there no
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  Speaker 2: judgment on the part of the head of the FBI.
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  Speaker 2: Is there no judgment on the part of anyone involved
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  Speaker 2: in this process to say, you know, this guy was
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  Speaker 2: the president of the United States Secret Services guarding him
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  Speaker 2: for a reason. Yeah, maybe we should not be authorizing
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  Speaker 2: deadly for uced like can you imagine listen.
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  Speaker 1: Well, can you speak to the chain of command just
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: for people to understand this. Merrick Garland's over the FBI,
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  Speaker 1: but also isn't he over the Secret Service as well?
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  Speaker 1: Is that not un his No?
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  Speaker 2: No, Actually secret Service reports us, so they're in different
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  Speaker 2: different silos.
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  Speaker 1: So, but wouldn't he be talking or realizing that he's
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: setting them up for a war?
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  Speaker 2: You know, I don't know, and listen, it is difficult
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  Speaker 2: to imagine. Look, who knows what happens. But the idea
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: that okay, if Secret Service resists, you guys go like that,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: there is no sense. And this reminds me back at
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: the beginning of Crossfire Hurricane. Crossfire Hurricane, you remember, was
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: the DOJ and FBI targeting the Trump campaign back when
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: he was a candidate. They went after him, and they
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: went in and wire tapped him, and they went after
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  Speaker 2: Carter Page and they created fraudulent documents that they used
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  Speaker 2: to get a warrant from the fiz of Court. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it was a grotesque abuse of power that the Department
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  Speaker 2: of Justice Inspector General detailed in very painstaking detail.
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  Speaker 1: And the media gave cover because they said Donald Trump
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  Speaker 1: was crazy. You imply that he was being spied on,
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  Speaker 1: his campaign was being spied on. They said he was
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  Speaker 1: a lunatic. In fact, he was right the entire time.
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  Speaker 2: He was exactly right. But look, when you go back
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  Speaker 2: to the launch of Crossfire Hurricane part of the problem,
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  Speaker 2: and this goes to DOJ during Obama when this all
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  Speaker 2: started an FBI during Obama, there were no adults in
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  Speaker 2: the room. Listen, there are circumstances you could imagine where
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: a criminal investigation, a search, warrant of prosecution has to
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: be authorized against a high level of government official, but
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: especially when that high level official is in the opposing party,
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: especially when that high level official is the leading candidate
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  Speaker 2: for the opposing party and the likely opponent for the
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  Speaker 2: sitting president. When you're going after your political opposition, the
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: threshold for anything should be extraordinarily high, and it wasn't
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: at all based on some ridiculous, half baked OPO research
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  Speaker 2: paid for by the Hillary Clinton campaign that contained the
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  Speaker 2: notorious P tape and all that nonsense, which has all
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: been debunked. We now know it was all made up.
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  Speaker 2: But look, when the Hillary Clinton campaign pays over a
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: million bucks to make up OPO research, they come up
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  Speaker 2: with some creative stuff.
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  Speaker 1: When you look at this, this is going to be
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  Speaker 1: and it has to be. I would assume a major
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: campaign issue, especially in the presidential campaign. I can't imagine
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: this not coming up of the presidential debates. But there
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: also seems to be panic right now. In response to this,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Jim Comey went on MSNBC and said this, take a listen.
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  Speaker 1: Are you concerned that it may get a test unlike
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  Speaker 1: any other if.
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  Speaker 3: Donald Trump is reelected.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, when you think about a second Trump administration,
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  Speaker 1: what do you think the implications would be for the FBI?
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  Speaker 4: Oh? Serious, for the Justice Department and the FBI, because
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  Speaker 4: Trump is coming for those institutions. He knows their power,
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  Speaker 4: and I think he has regrets that he didn't work
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  Speaker 4: hard enough to corrupt them last time. So he's coming
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  Speaker 4: for them, and that's a danger for all Americans. He's
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  Speaker 4: going to put people in positions in those organizations. He
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  Speaker 4: didn't have all stars the last time. He'll have the
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  Speaker 4: bottom of the barrel this time, but people who will
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  Speaker 4: want to do his will, and that should weary every American.
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  Speaker 4: This election matters because of a reason like that. People
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  Speaker 4: have to participate. You cannot sit on the sideline. I
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  Speaker 4: don't care how you feel about Joe Biden. You must
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  Speaker 4: vote for him because the consequences on the other side
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  Speaker 4: are too severe.
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  Speaker 1: I don't care how you feel about Joe Biden, you
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  Speaker 1: must vote for him. That's the former FBI director saying
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  Speaker 1: that Senator.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and when he talks about corrupting the FBI, I
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  Speaker 2: will say, listen. I would admit Jim Comey as an
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  Speaker 2: expert witness at any trial of the planet on corrupting
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  Speaker 2: the FBI, because he was front and center. He did
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  Speaker 2: exactly that. He was the point person behind weaponizing the FBI.
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  Speaker 2: Jim Komy as someone who fancies himself I believe to
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  Speaker 2: be j Edgar Hoover. He had delusions of power. It
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: is one of the gravest mistakes of the first term
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  Speaker 2: of the Trump presidency that Trump did not fire Jim
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  Speaker 2: Comy on January twentieth, twenty seventeen, the first day in office.
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  Speaker 2: He should have said, thank you for your service to
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  Speaker 2: the nation. Your services are no longer needed. Nobody would
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  Speaker 2: have blinked. But the White House foolishly thought they could
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  Speaker 2: get Komy to be part of the administration, to do
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  Speaker 2: his job, to not be a disloyal, power hungry snake,
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  Speaker 2: and they were wrong. He's continuing to do that. And
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  Speaker 2: by the way, let's understand there's an enormous amount of
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  Speaker 2: CYA in Komy and that he's very afraid if they
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  Speaker 2: have accountability at the FBI, that his personal rear end
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  Speaker 2: is in the sling. And so that's he's like, please, please,
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  Speaker 2: please make sure you put people in power that cover
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  Speaker 2: up for me and that continue the corruption of the
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  Speaker 2: FBI and continue weapon to get to attack their enemies,
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  Speaker 2: because that's what I did, and I don't want to
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  Speaker 2: be held for account. That's among the most self interested
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  Speaker 2: testimony I've ever heard.
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  Speaker 1: Final question on this now, knowing what we know about
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  Speaker 1: the raid, is it warranted and justifiable if Donald Trump
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  Speaker 1: is elected again for him to go in in thoroughly
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  Speaker 1: clean house in these institutions.
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  Speaker 2: Warranted, justifiable and incredibly necessary. What has happened is we
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  Speaker 2: have hardcore partisans who have corrupted these institutions from the inside.
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  Speaker 2: They occupy senior positions in the career bureaucracy. And if
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  Speaker 2: Trump is reelected, and I hope and pray that he is,
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  Speaker 2: he needs to appoint serious, strong leaders at DOJ, at
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: the FBI, and the rest of the alphabet soup of
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: the administration who understand what they're doing, who have the
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  Speaker 2: seriousness of purpose to go in and clean them out,
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  Speaker 2: because we need to restore the institution. Listen that there
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  Speaker 2: are some Republican some conservatives that say things like abolish
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  Speaker 2: the FBI. I'm not in that camp. Why Because the
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  Speaker 2: FBI is enormously important. The FBI does hugely important things
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  Speaker 2: like finding and catching terrorists and stopping them from killing Americans.
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  Speaker 2: It does hugely important things like finding kidnappers and child predators,
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  Speaker 2: and going after the mafia and mobsters and going after
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  Speaker 2: Mexican drug cartales, like all of that is really damn important,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't want to blow that up. What I
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  Speaker 2: want to do is restore the integrity of the FBI
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  Speaker 2: and the DOJ by getting the partisans out of office
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  Speaker 2: who have corrupted it. As you know, Chris Ray, the
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  Speaker 2: current director of the FBI. I've known for twenty five years. Chris. Interestingly,
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  Speaker 2: Chris is not a Liberal. He's a Republican. He still
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  Speaker 2: considers himself a Republican to this day. Chris's problem, I believe,
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  Speaker 2: Trump put him in that position. He pointed him to
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  Speaker 2: He and I have had screaming arguments on this where
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