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Schumer Shutdown-The Chaos the Dems have Unleashed, and Why · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome. It is Verdical Center, Ted Cruz, it is nice
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Speaker 1: to have you with us. It is official. Twelve oh
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Speaker 1: one am. The United States government is shut down. The
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Speaker 1: Democrats they did it on purpose. Apparently it was their plan.
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Speaker 1: And the question is for how long have they been
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Speaker 1: planning on doing this. This is going to be a
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Speaker 1: very interesting show. This all revolves around the Senate. That
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Speaker 1: is something that maybe some people don't realize. Everything's come
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Speaker 1: out of the House. We're now to the Senate side
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Speaker 1: of things, and I want you to explain what it
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Speaker 1: was like in the hours leading up to this shutdown.
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Speaker 1: Was there ever a chance in hell that the government
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Speaker 1: wasn't going to shut down?
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Speaker 2: No, there was never a chance. It is just after midnight,
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Speaker 2: so the government is shut down just for a few minutes.
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Speaker 2: But I think the government shutdown is going to last
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Speaker 2: at the minimum of days, it may be weeks, and
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Speaker 2: it may even be longer. Really, yes, this could extend
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Speaker 2: for a significant period of time. And understand this is
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Speaker 2: the Democrats roar that they hate Donald Trump. So I
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Speaker 2: got to say we had the vote tonight. There was
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Speaker 2: no surprise. Everyone knew the outcome out of one hundred
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Speaker 2: senators all of us knew the outcome. The vote was
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Speaker 2: fifty five to forty five. So three Democrat senators voted
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Speaker 2: to keep the government open.
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Speaker 1: You have a pretty big deal, right, I mean, did
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Speaker 1: you think those three were going to go?
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Speaker 3: Where?
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Speaker 1: Did you think it was going to be a unanimous vote?
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Speaker 1: I mean Fetterman and two others like that's that is significant?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Look Fetterman, I was not surprised. So Fetterman voted
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Speaker 2: to keep the government open, Cortes Master voter to keep
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Speaker 2: the government open, and Angus King voted to keep the
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Speaker 2: government open. That's not shocking to me. It's fifty five
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Speaker 2: to forty five. Now why did the government shut down? Look,
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Speaker 2: the basic operation of government is the federal government cannot
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Speaker 2: continue to operate unless Congress appropriates funds. Under the Constitution,
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Speaker 2: Congress has the power of the purse, so Congress appropriates
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Speaker 2: the spending of money. A typical fiscal year is October
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Speaker 2: first to September thirtieth.
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Speaker 3: YEP.
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Speaker 2: This particular funding ended at midnight on September thirtieth. You
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Speaker 2: and I are recording this just after minutes after midnight
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Speaker 2: on September thirtieth. The appropriation, the authorization for Congress to
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Speaker 2: spend money expired minutes ago. Now, there are a couple
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Speaker 2: of ways you can extend the government funding. One is
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Speaker 2: an appropriation and so they're typically in a good year.
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Speaker 2: They are thirteen appropriation bills that fund each different kind
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Speaker 2: of major segment of government. For a number of years,
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Speaker 2: the appropriation bills have not passed. The other major way
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Speaker 2: that government authorization occurs is through what are called crs.
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Speaker 2: CR is short for continue resolution. A continue resolution is
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Speaker 2: essentially Congress saying what we are spending now, we can
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Speaker 2: continue continue the status quo identically for x period of time. Now,
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Speaker 2: the House of Representatives pasted a CR, a clean CR,
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Speaker 2: to fund the federal government through the middle of November.
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Speaker 2: So if the Senate had passed it.
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Speaker 1: Oh right. Let's be clear. When you say a clean CR,
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Speaker 1: that means no political shananigans in it. It's literally saying,
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Speaker 1: we're taking the twenty five budget year and we're going
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Speaker 1: to say the exact same amount we spent in August,
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Speaker 1: we're going to spend September, October, November until we get
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Speaker 1: the new budget. There is no port barrel extras, there's
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Speaker 1: no political sheanigan against from either side.
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, Okay, a clean CR says what we
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Speaker 2: spent yesterday is what we'll spend tomorrow, that everything just
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Speaker 2: continues the same, and that's what the House has passed. Now.
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Speaker 2: The challenge is for anything to pass the Senate that
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Speaker 2: is in the nature of an appropriations or a CR,
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Speaker 2: it takes sixty votes because under the filibuster rule, you've
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Speaker 2: got to have sixty votes to move forward on legislation. So,
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Speaker 2: as I mentioned, we got fifty five. We got three Democrats,
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Speaker 2: but we need sixty, which means we need at least
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Speaker 2: seven Democrats. And actually here we need eight Democrats because
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Speaker 2: Ran Paul voted no. So we had fifty two Republicans
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Speaker 2: vote yes, and we needed eight Democrats to vote yes
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Speaker 2: to fund the government. Well, we only got three, and.
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Speaker 1: That was on purpose. And I want to pause just
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Speaker 1: for a second to go back to CR historically. Let's
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Speaker 1: just go back to Biden's time in office, when you
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Speaker 1: guys were in the minority. If I'm not mistaken, you
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Speaker 1: guys did this more than a dozen times, where you
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Speaker 1: can't and say, hey, thirteen times, all right, So thirteen
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Speaker 1: different times y'all came together and said we're gonna spend
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Speaker 1: exactly what we spent yesterday to keep the government open,
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Speaker 1: so we avoid a government shut down. And you put
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Speaker 1: the American people ahead of politics. And that is a
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Speaker 1: bipartisan moment, right, They had to have some of your votes.
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Speaker 2: So look, every time we came to the end of
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Speaker 2: government funding, you would have enough Republicans joined with Democrats
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Speaker 2: to keep the government funded. Now what has changed, Well,
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Speaker 2: several months ago we had another expiration of government funding.
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Speaker 2: And what happened is Chuck Schumer and the Democrats decided, Okay,
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Speaker 2: let's keep the government going, a very reasonable and very
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Speaker 2: common sense, a very normal decision. The Democratic left wing
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Speaker 2: base lost their mind and Chuck Schumer nearly lost his
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Speaker 2: job because Schumer allowed the government to be funded several
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Speaker 2: months ago, the left wing rose up against him. And
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Speaker 2: you want to understand why we have a shutdown. It's
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Speaker 2: one thing. Schumer is looking over his left shoulder and
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Speaker 2: he sees aoc running up behind him, and he is
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Speaker 2: terrified he's gonna lose his job. So listen, Schumer knows
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Speaker 2: this is not gonna work. He knows this is failures.
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Speaker 1: Just pure cover your als politics one oh one by Schumer.
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Speaker 2: So the radical left wing, they hate Trump, and they
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Speaker 2: want today to be a giant f you to Trump.
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Speaker 2: They want it to be we hate President Trump, and
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Speaker 2: we hate President Trump so much we're gonna shut the
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Speaker 2: entire government down because rar that's what we're watching now.
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Speaker 1: By the way, So then hold on, when did this
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Speaker 1: become the plan? Was this weeks ago? Months ago? Was
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Speaker 1: this when they had the last years? I got the
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Speaker 1: next time it comes up, I have no choice. I
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Speaker 1: got to shut down the government to flex my muscles.
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Speaker 1: And also there is a real concern by him that
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Speaker 1: AOC is going to run against him, primary him in
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Speaker 1: the Senate. By the way, that is after the next
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Speaker 1: president's election cycle? Was that and that isn't he up
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Speaker 1: two years after? Are not mistaken?
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Speaker 2: So be.
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Speaker 3: So.
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Speaker 2: And to be clear, I predicted on this podcast the
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Speaker 2: inaugural member the chairman of the AOC for President campaign
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Speaker 2: is Chuck Schumer. Because he is desperate for AOC not
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Speaker 2: to primary him. He's gonna say, Alexandra, you are such
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Speaker 2: a big deal, you were so important. Really, the Senate's
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Speaker 2: too small for you. Why do you want to bother
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Speaker 2: being in the Senate. You should be in the White House.
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Speaker 2: Schumer is going to be all in on that, but
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Speaker 2: he is living with absolute PTSD. He is traumatized. He
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Speaker 2: sees left wing antifa crazies coming around on every side,
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Speaker 2: and so from his end, this shutdown is necessary politically. Now,
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Speaker 2: what did the Democrats demand? They demanded a lot of things.
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Speaker 2: You know what the number one demand was, what's that?
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Speaker 2: Free healthcare for illegals all over the country.
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Speaker 1: By the way, I mean when you think about at
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Speaker 1: and the polling data and what it says, I don't
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Speaker 1: understand why that would make your number one thing. Because
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Speaker 1: it's clear that the people are behind President Trump. Securing
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Speaker 1: our borders, stopping government waste for aunt of abuse dogs
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Speaker 1: was a big part of it. And also making sure
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Speaker 1: that we're not giving out benefits to illegal immigrants. Like no, no, no,
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Speaker 1: we want to spend one point five trillion if you
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Speaker 1: want our votes, and it has to be for health
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Speaker 1: care for illegal immigrants and food stamps for people that
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Speaker 1: are able bodied, for example, that refuse to work. That's
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Speaker 1: another thing, And they're like, no, no, no, we buy gal.
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Speaker 1: You better get minded people that are just straight up lazy,
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Speaker 1: that aren't that that have the ability to work, but
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Speaker 1: you got to pay them to stay home.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, a huge pump chunk of this is getting rid
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Speaker 2: of the work requirement for government benefits. Democrats don't want
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Speaker 2: anyone to have to work. They wanted them to be
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Speaker 2: able to sit at home and get government checks. But
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Speaker 2: did you see the AI video of the White House
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Speaker 2: put out?
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Speaker 1: Which one they put out a couple different things. Which
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Speaker 1: one are you talking about?
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Speaker 2: I want you, I want I want to play this
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Speaker 2: for everyone. Okay, this is fake So all the nattering nabobs,
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Speaker 2: this is fake news. But it is absolutely hysterical that
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Speaker 2: the White House put out. This is Chuck Schumer and
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Speaker 2: a King Jeffreys explaining what this shutdown is all about.
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Speaker 1: Now, before we get to that, I want to talk
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Speaker 1: to you about my friends over at Berna. If you've
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Speaker 1: ever listened to the show before, you know I'm a
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Speaker 1: big advocate for the Second Amendment and I've shared on
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Speaker 1: from a gang related attack. But many of you out
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Speaker 1: there may not feel comfortable carrying a firearm. Maybe you
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Speaker 1: have a loved one that's just not comfortable. They need
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Speaker 1: to separate you from an attacker. Josh Cherard from Berna
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Speaker 1: has been with us telling stories of how Berna has
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Speaker 1: helped save lives or could have been the best option
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Speaker 1: for protection. Josh, this next one is incredibly sad, and
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Speaker 1: I want you to talk about a father that involved
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Speaker 1: with a shooting.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely so. In this particular case, sixteen year old girl
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Speaker 3: was coming home late one night, about three am in
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Speaker 3: the morning, entering through the garage. Unfortunately, the father, here's
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Speaker 3: a noise in the garage, grabs his gun, goes out there.
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Speaker 3: He's a dark figure walking through the garage, points that
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Speaker 3: gun fires only that point, realizing that he had just
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Speaker 3: killed his sixteen year old daughter. This is an illustration
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Speaker 3: of where guns in homes, if not used properly, can
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Speaker 3: have dire dire consequences. In this case, one bullet killed
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Speaker 3: two lives and the lives of many others in that family.
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Speaker 3: It was incredibly tragic and unfortunately we see this situation
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Speaker 3: dozens and dozens of times every year throughout the US.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, That's one of the questions that I think some
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Speaker 1: people ask us, like, is this just a one off
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Speaker 1: occurrence that would never happen to me? Unfortunately, as you mentioned,
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Speaker 1: this happens a lot more often than people realize.
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Speaker 3: only tool for home defense is a gun, and they
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Speaker 3: get a gun, they never train with it, they never
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Speaker 3: train the tactics that requires, they don't do the other
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Speaker 3: things like flashlights and all the other things that are
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Speaker 3: necessary to make sure that they can use that gun properly.
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Speaker 3: And then that's when you have something like this happens
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Speaker 3: with a burna. If the same thing had happened you
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Speaker 3: put a burner in his hands, his daughter would be
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Speaker 3: really mad. After she was done coughing for about forty
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Speaker 3: five minutes, but still alive. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: com again, burna by RNA dot com. All right, so center,
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Speaker 1: here is that audio. Yes, as you mentioned earlier, this
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Speaker 1: is a spoof. It is like Saturday Night Live, except
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Speaker 1: it's coming from President Donald Trump's account, which is the
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Speaker 1: best part about it. Take a listen to this. Look, guys,
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Speaker 1: there's no way to sugarcoat it. Nobody likes Democrats anymore.
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Speaker 4: We have no voters left because of all of our
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Speaker 4: woke trans bullsh Not even black people want to vote
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Speaker 4: for us anymore. Even Latinos hate us. So we need
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Speaker 4: new voters. And if we give all these illegal aliens
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Speaker 4: free healthcare here, we might be able to get them
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Speaker 4: on our side so they can vote for us. They
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Speaker 4: can't even speak English, so they won't realize we're just
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Speaker 4: a bunch of woke pieces of ship, you know, at
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Speaker 4: least for a while until they learn English and they
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Speaker 4: realize they hate us too.
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Speaker 1: See, this is when I love AI. This is when
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Speaker 1: I absolutely love the spoof from the President. And if
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Speaker 1: you can't see this, you need to go look at
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Speaker 1: it we put up on social media, the videos and
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Speaker 1: Importphreeze has got a really nice Hannibar mustache and a
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Speaker 1: sombrero on.
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Speaker 2: So look, pause for a second and realize that was
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Speaker 2: released by the White House. That was released by the
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Speaker 2: President of the United States. I feel a little guilty
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Speaker 2: because we've got some cursewords in there. We try to
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Speaker 2: avoid cursewords on this podcast. But what do you do
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Speaker 2: when the president has put that out?
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Speaker 3: You put it?
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Speaker 2: And I gotta say, the video sits today at lunch.
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Speaker 2: So every Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, all the publican senators
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Speaker 2: have lunch together. Today at lunch, John Thune met with
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Speaker 2: the President, met with Schumer, met with the King Jeffries
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Speaker 2: at the White House. And so Thune was giving us
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Speaker 2: a download on that. And you know, Thune was talking about, Okay,
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Speaker 2: the Democrats, they don't want to cut a deal. They're
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Speaker 2: not willing to give it on anything. And I will confess.
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Speaker 2: I raised my hand. I question. I said, John was
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Speaker 2: a King Jeffries wearing the sombrero.
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Speaker 1: And what did he say?
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Speaker 2: He just laughed. But look and everyone cracked up. But
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Speaker 2: that image. Listen, the Democrats have literally shut down the
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Speaker 2: federal government because they want free health care for every
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Speaker 2: illegal alien in America.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to.
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Speaker 2: Talk about, like on every issue that's eighty twenty or
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Speaker 2: even ninety ten, they're on the twenty or the ten side.
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Speaker 2: The American people do not support. If you want to
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Speaker 2: have a referendum in this country, should we give illegals
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Speaker 2: free health care? Wow, that will be overwhelming. But here's
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Speaker 2: the secret. This shutdown is not actually about free health
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Speaker 2: care for illegals. That's what the Democrats have hung their
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Speaker 2: hat on because they got to say they want.
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Speaker 1: So they gotta say something, right, This is.
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Speaker 2: All about just we hate Donald Trump and it is
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Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer job preservation. And that also means the end
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Speaker 2: of this. Okay, there's no universe in which Chuck Schumer
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Speaker 2: will get President Trump to agree to let's give free
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Speaker 2: health care to illegals.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, not gonna happen. They know that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're entering. There's no universe in which Republicans in
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Speaker 2: Congress are going to say, hey, that's a great idea,
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Speaker 2: let's give free health care to every illegal. Like that's
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Speaker 2: you might as well ask for Area fifty one, like
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Speaker 2: to release the Martians and let them take over the country. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: that is as likely to happen as free health care
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Speaker 2: for illegals from Republicans. The Democrats know that this is
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Speaker 2: not about getting what they're demanding. This is about how
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Speaker 2: long do they want to demonstrate Orange Man bad?
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Speaker 1: Yeah and so and the radical base is what has
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Speaker 1: put them in this scenario. Right, I guess do you
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Speaker 1: actually believe. And let's go back to the history of
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Speaker 1: the Senate here. I don't believe that Chuck Schumer actually
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Speaker 1: wanted to shut down the government. No, No, I think
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Speaker 1: he was forced to do it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he would lose his job. He would lose his
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Speaker 2: job if the government was it.
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Speaker 1: Was self preservation.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 1: In other words, this is weird. Chuck Schumer is being
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Speaker 1: held hostage by the Marxist communists and socialists in his party,
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Speaker 1: which they did not police and they allowed to take
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Speaker 1: over their party. Then he's now holding the American people
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Speaker 1: hostage with a government shut down, which brings me the
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Speaker 1: big question. Even when we've had shutdowns in the past,
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Speaker 1: there has been some agreement center like, hey, certain people
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Speaker 1: should deserve to get paid, those that are in the military,
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Speaker 1: those badges, like the list is not that long, but
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Speaker 1: the essential important people that deserve to get a paycheck.
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Speaker 1: We don't screw with them when they're protecting to fing
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Speaker 1: this country, can you guys, at least was there an
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Speaker 1: agreement to pay them? Really? Okay, so walk us through that,
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Speaker 1: because I'm assuming that came up at lunch.
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Speaker 2: So one of the things I did today is I
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Speaker 2: sent a letter because under the Constitution, Members of Congress,
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Speaker 2: our pay cannot be stopped. It's actually unconstitutional to reduce
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Speaker 2: the compensation for members of Congress during the term we're
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Speaker 2: elected to. So I sent a letter and I've done
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Speaker 2: this during every shutdown, saying while the government is shut down,
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Speaker 2: don't pay me. It's not fair. It's not right for
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Speaker 2: an elected member of Congress to receive a paycheck when
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Speaker 2: federal workers are not. Now, to be clear, I don't
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Speaker 2: lose my pay when the shutdown is over. I'll get
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Speaker 2: but it's deferred.
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Speaker 1: But a lot of I don't understand that the long
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Speaker 1: which if I think just asinine, and I have family
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Speaker 1: members work in the federal government, and they're like, the
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Speaker 1: dumb part about this that I think a lot of
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Speaker 1: Americans don't understand, yep, is that you don't miss a
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Speaker 1: paycheck in your calendar year. You just miss a month
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Speaker 1: and then you get it back data, you get it
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Speaker 1: back the next time whenever the government does open back up.
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Speaker 1: And so I know people that are in the FA
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Speaker 1: for example, and they're like, dude, we just plan our
17:28
Speaker 1: vacations like great trips around shutdowns because we know we're
17:31
Speaker 1: still getting paid. We save not everybody can do that.
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Speaker 1: But like they've almost pre planned for this bonus vacation
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Speaker 1: and they're gonna get paid back.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but let me make several points of clarification. Sure
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Speaker 2: number one, government shutdown as a misnomer. More than eighty
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Speaker 2: percent of the government will continue to operate. So the
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Speaker 2: basic principle is everything that is essential keeps going. So
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Speaker 2: the military, our activity and military defending the nation against
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Speaker 2: bad guys, that keeps going. The FBI catching criminals, that
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Speaker 2: keeps going. The border patrol and ice that keeps going.
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Speaker 2: The FAA air traffic controllers. Tomorrow, if you get on
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Speaker 2: an airplane, the air traffic controllers all go to work.
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Speaker 2: By the way, the air traffic controllers are not getting
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Speaker 2: a paycheck, so they're going to work. But every two
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Speaker 2: weeks federal government employees get paid. Air traffic controllers, coast guardsmen, military,
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Speaker 2: the federal government. Nobody gets a paycheck. And so what
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Speaker 2: shuts down. Every cabinet secretary was assigned designate among your
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Speaker 2: employees who is essential and who is not essential. I
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Speaker 2: remember when Bill Clinton was president, we had to shut down.
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Speaker 3: Then.
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Speaker 2: Remember Knute Gingrich and the Republican Congress were fighting with
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Speaker 2: Bill Clinton. We had to shut down for a number
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Speaker 2: of weeks, and I remember there was a headline that
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Speaker 2: said the Department of Commerce designated thirty percent of their
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Speaker 2: employees is a essentral and seventy percent is non essential.
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Speaker 2: I remember thinking, that's great, we just set a new
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Speaker 2: benchline all those non essential that's seventy percent they ought
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Speaker 2: to be done. But what that means, so what will
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Speaker 2: be shut down? Starting October one? National parks will be
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Speaker 2: shut down. So I gotta say, if you were planning
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Speaker 2: to take your family to Yosemite this weekend, yeah, I'm
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry to say you're out of luck. Yosemite will
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Speaker 2: be closed. If you were coming to d C to
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Speaker 2: tour our nation's capitally, you wanted to go to the Smithsonian,
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Speaker 2: go to the Air and Space Museum, it's the Smithsonian
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Speaker 2: will be shut down. If you look at things like
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Speaker 2: the National Institute of Health, like research on cancer, much
19:44
Speaker 2: of that will be shut down.
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Speaker 1: All across that non essential. When people are going to
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Speaker 1: say that seems insane, Why wouldn't we fix that to
19:51
Speaker 1: make sure when we have these shenanigans happen that that's
19:54
Speaker 1: not affected.
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Speaker 2: And I think this shutdown will extend I think it'll
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Speaker 2: be weeks. I think it will be Schumer is trying
20:05
Speaker 2: to protect his own rear end and everything else is
20:08
Speaker 2: secondary to protecting his own political life. So I think
20:11
Speaker 2: we will see an extended shutdown.
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Speaker 1: So is this polling the I mean, how do you
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Speaker 1: decide when you won or you lost if you're Schumer,
20:19
Speaker 1: Because this is not about the country hating Schumer. This
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Speaker 1: is only about New York. I'm protecting a seat from AOC.
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Speaker 1: So in essence, you don't care how many people hate
20:29
Speaker 1: you in the country. It's only a New York thing,
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Speaker 1: is that. I mean, well, they do polling. I mean
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Speaker 1: this is weird.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, so this is being called the Schumer shutdown. Yeah,
20:40
Speaker 2: and I got to say, the Democrats are losing the
20:43
Speaker 2: messaging battle. It is clear this is a Democrat shutdown.
20:47
Speaker 2: There was actually exchange right before we had the vote
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Speaker 2: on the CR to keep the government open, and this
20:52
Speaker 2: is a clean CR. No rioters, no nothing, this is
20:55
Speaker 2: just keep the lights.
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Speaker 1: On status quo.
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Speaker 2: Schumer stood up and was speaking, and all the Senators
21:01
Speaker 2: or most of us, were standing on the Senate floor,
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Speaker 2: and Schumer said, look, there's been reference to polling, but
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Speaker 2: the polling has been biased. It's been right wing polling,
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Speaker 2: for example, the New York Times. And I got to
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Speaker 2: tell you, I and every other Republican we just started
21:20
Speaker 2: cracking up, laughing, and you could see Schumer he actually
21:23
Speaker 2: turned red, he looked sheepish because he just said on
21:27
Speaker 2: the Senate floor that the New York Times was a
21:31
Speaker 2: biased right wing poll.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, seriously.
21:36
Speaker 2: And it was a moment where where like Schumer, you
21:38
Speaker 2: saw Democrats looking at him going, dude, you look like
21:42
Speaker 2: that's weak. And that's because the New York Times did
21:46
Speaker 2: a poll if the Democrats don't get everything they want,
21:49
Speaker 2: should they shut the government down? And sixty five percent
21:52
Speaker 2: of Americans said no, don't shut the government down. It
21:55
Speaker 2: was a small percentage. It was just over twenty percent
21:58
Speaker 2: of Americans that said, yeah, shut the government down. So
22:02
Speaker 2: that's who the Democrats are responding to. But they've got
22:05
Speaker 2: Schumer's message is the New York Times is a right
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Speaker 2: wing mouthpiece, and how dare you tell the American people
22:13
Speaker 2: that we the Democrats, are shutting the government down. This
22:17
Speaker 2: is headed to failure. Everyone knows that, every Republican knows
22:20
Speaker 2: that every Democrat knows that is there an outcome where
22:24
Speaker 2: Republicans say, okay, great, let's fund healthcare free illegals. No,
22:29
Speaker 2: the Democrats will give in. Three Democrats voted to fund
22:32
Speaker 2: the government. What will happen is the government is shut down.
22:36
Speaker 2: People are going to get ticked off, people are gonna
22:39
Speaker 2: want to like use by the way, things like passport
22:43
Speaker 2: services will be greatly reduced. All sorts of government. Now listen.
22:47
Speaker 2: The military keeps going, law enforcement keep going, Social Security
22:50
Speaker 2: keeps going, Medicare keeps going, Medicaid keeps going, an awful
22:54
Speaker 2: lot of government keeps going. But the lack of government
22:58
Speaker 2: being open will be a serious function. At some point
23:01
Speaker 2: we will see seven or eight Democrats say enough is enough,
23:05
Speaker 2: reopen the government. That will happen. But let me tell
23:08
Speaker 2: you a huge piece that is an X factor in this,
23:14
Speaker 2: which is Russ Vote, who is the head of OMB,
23:17
Speaker 2: the Office of Management and Budget works for the White House.
23:20
Speaker 2: He put out a memo a week ago that said,
23:23
Speaker 2: if there is a government shutdown, we are going to
23:28
Speaker 2: lay off federal workers. We're not going to give them
23:30
Speaker 2: a furlough.
23:32
Speaker 3: Is hold on.
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Speaker 1: This is the brilliant game of chess that was early
23:36
Speaker 1: on preemptive ye warning you do this and here's what
23:41
Speaker 1: we were going to do. And this might be one
23:44
Speaker 1: of the best movies I've seen politically in a long
23:46
Speaker 1: time in DC, which is go ahead, do it and
23:50
Speaker 1: watch what happens, because there a lot of people are
23:51
Speaker 1: gonna get lose their jobs and that's going to be
23:53
Speaker 1: on you guys for allowing it to happen. Right, So
23:56
Speaker 1: explain all that.
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Speaker 2: Yes, So Russ is a good friend's strong conservative. He's
24:01
Speaker 2: a strong fiscal conservative. And what he said is, listen,
24:04
Speaker 2: if Congress decides not to fund the federal government, we
24:08
Speaker 2: are going to react to that by the White Houses
24:12
Speaker 2: instructed every cabinet agency to prepare a plan for a
24:16
Speaker 2: riff a reduction in force to give permanent layoffs pink
24:20
Speaker 2: slips to government bureaucrats who are left wing bureaucrats who
24:25
Speaker 2: are advancing the priorities of the Democrat Party. So what
24:29
Speaker 2: you are going to see in the next few days,
24:32
Speaker 2: you are going to see bureaucrats at the EPA fired.
24:37
Speaker 2: You're going to see bureaucrats at the Department of Labor fired.
24:42
Speaker 2: You're going to see bureaucrats at the RS fired. And
24:46
Speaker 2: within a couple of days we're going to see Democrat senators.
24:50
Speaker 2: They're going to be in their lunches screaming at each
24:52
Speaker 2: other because this is frankly an excuse for the Trump
24:56
Speaker 2: administration to do what they wanted to do anyway, which
24:59
Speaker 2: is get rid of left wing bureaucrats. But they now
25:02
Speaker 2: have an incredible justification, which is, hey, Congress chose not
25:07
Speaker 2: to fund them, so instead of giving them a paid vacation,
25:12
Speaker 2: stay home several weeks and then we'll pay you back
25:14
Speaker 2: pay and come back to your job. They're gonna even
25:17
Speaker 2: pick slip and say you're done. You no longer have
25:20
Speaker 2: a job. And I think that is going to ratchet
25:22
Speaker 2: up the pressure on Democrats massively.
25:26
Speaker 1: So how quickly can these firings take place? How massive
25:29
Speaker 1: could they be? And how much research has been done
25:34
Speaker 1: behind the scenes to get rid of a lot of
25:36
Speaker 1: these woke bureaucrats that we that we've been wanting to
25:39
Speaker 1: get rid of, that the presidents want to get rid of,
25:42
Speaker 1: the cabinet secretaries of wanting to get rid of like
25:44
Speaker 1: how I mean, I'm assuming they're burning the midnight oil
25:47
Speaker 1: kind of like doage did. Let's find the people we
25:49
Speaker 1: want to get rid of, and this is our chance
25:51
Speaker 1: to do it, and and and by the way, once
25:53
Speaker 1: it's done, like it's not like he got one from
25:55
Speaker 1: their jobs back, like it's done.
25:57
Speaker 2: So I think that starts happening today. I think October one,
26:02
Speaker 2: you start seeing pink slips. I think we will see
26:06
Speaker 2: left wing bureaucrats fired today. I think we'll see them
26:10
Speaker 2: fired tomorrow.
26:12
Speaker 3: You know.
26:12
Speaker 2: This evening, I had dinner with the Deputy Secretary of
26:15
Speaker 2: HHS who's a longtime friend of mine. He was actually
26:18
Speaker 2: a groomsm in my wedding. Great guy, I asked him.
26:21
Speaker 2: I said, okay, the White House asked every cabinet agency
26:24
Speaker 2: preparing list of people for the riff, and he said, yeah,
26:29
Speaker 2: we're doing that. He said, every agency, when the White
26:31
Speaker 2: House directs us to do that, we do that. We're
26:34
Speaker 2: going to see I think hundreds, if not thousands of
26:37
Speaker 2: left wing bureaucrats fired in the next several days. I
26:41
Speaker 2: think that's going to put the Democrat Party in crisis.
26:44
Speaker 2: And by the way, we're not going to fire people
26:47
Speaker 2: that are critical for the priorities you and I care about.
26:51
Speaker 2: So we're not going to see border patrol agents who
26:53
Speaker 2: are securing the border fired. We're not going to see
26:56
Speaker 2: ice agents who are deporting gang bangers fired. We're not
26:59
Speaker 2: going to see FBI agents who are catching pedophiles, We're
27:03
Speaker 2: not going to see them fired. We're not going to
27:05
Speaker 2: see soldiers and sailors at airmen and marines who are
27:09
Speaker 2: keeping this nation safe. We're not going to see them fired.
27:12
Speaker 2: We're going to see bureaucrats who are shutting down factories,
27:17
Speaker 2: who are destroying jobs, who are pursuing radical left wing agendas.
27:23
Speaker 2: They're going to be the ones fired, and ultimately the
27:26
Speaker 2: Democrats are going to cave. The only question is how
27:29
Speaker 2: long Schumer wants to go through this charade before he gives.
27:34
Speaker 1: In, which brings me my final question, that is the
27:37
Speaker 1: media does seem to be covering this a little bit
27:40
Speaker 1: more with honesty than I've ever seen them before. Today
27:43
Speaker 1: there was a viral clip that is the tables have
27:46
Speaker 1: been turned. Democrats are now literally under fire for a
27:50
Speaker 1: clip that shows them slamming government shut down tactics, the
27:54
Speaker 1: same ones they're accused of using right now. And here's
27:57
Speaker 1: what it sounded like back in twenty eighteen. In December
27:59
Speaker 1: of twenty eight team Donald Trump's President Chuck schimern An's
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Speaker 1: posy in the Oval Office listen.
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Speaker 5: We do not want to shut down the government because
28:07
Speaker 5: you can me say something, mister President of North Dakota.
28:12
Speaker 6: And the most unfortunate, and we came in here in
28:14
Speaker 6: good faith and we're entering into this kind of a
28:19
Speaker 6: discussion in.
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Speaker 3: The public.
28:23
Speaker 2: Transparency.
28:24
Speaker 5: I know, it's high transparency when we're not certipulating to.
28:27
Speaker 2: A set of facts.
28:29
Speaker 1: I mean, you listen to that one, they're like, we're
28:31
Speaker 1: not in favor of it. And then the speaker also
28:33
Speaker 1: put out a very interesting yes video montage reminding people
28:40
Speaker 1: the same thing, like, Hey, you guys think that it's
28:43
Speaker 1: the Democrats Mike Johnson putting this out and here he
28:46
Speaker 1: is and what he said to remind the people about
28:48
Speaker 1: Democrats in their own words, it is not.
28:54
Speaker 6: Normal to shut down the government when we don't get
28:56
Speaker 6: what we want.
28:57
Speaker 5: If the government shuts down, it will be average Americas
29:00
Speaker 5: who suffer most. A government shutdown means seniors who rely
29:04
Speaker 5: on Social Security could be thrown into chaos.
29:07
Speaker 2: Families will be hurt, farmers will be hurt. It's the
29:11
Speaker 2: service members who will work without a paycheck.
29:14
Speaker 6: I mean, it's the firefighters who will be furlough this
29:18
Speaker 6: shut down.
29:18
Speaker 1: You know who's going to feel the pain. You know
29:20
Speaker 1: who it hurts you everyday, people and the most vulnerable seniors, veterans,
29:26
Speaker 1: working families, hungering kids.
29:28
Speaker 6: Y'all Democratic signaling that they're ready for fight this time.
29:36
Speaker 6: Sumer told the Associated Press, Well, things have changed.
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Speaker 2: It is not normal to shut down the government when
29:42
Speaker 2: we don't get.
29:43
Speaker 1: What we want. I mean, I love them using AOC's words,
29:48
Speaker 1: I feel like the media has changed a little bit.
29:50
Speaker 1: Here your thoughts on.
29:51
Speaker 2: That, Well, I'm impressed that you recognize AOC's voice.
29:55
Speaker 3: I didn't know.
29:56
Speaker 2: I knew that was a shrill Democrat. I didn't know
29:58
Speaker 2: who that was. So I appreciate that clarity. Listen, every
30:04
Speaker 2: single Democrat, I think, without exception, has gone on record
30:07
Speaker 2: being against shutdowns. The fact that they shut it all
30:11
Speaker 2: down today demonstrates what utter hypocrites they are. And I
30:14
Speaker 2: got to say as I was walking off the Senate floor,
30:17
Speaker 2: so I voted to fund the government this afternoon. The
30:21
Speaker 2: Democrats voted against it and caused a shut down. All
30:25
Speaker 2: the reporters were circling, and their talking point that they
30:28
Speaker 2: really wanted to press is they said, Okay, cruise. In
30:32
Speaker 2: twenty thirteen, in the fight over Obamacare, you, Ted Cruz
30:38
Speaker 2: forced to shut down. Isn't that what the Democrats are
30:41
Speaker 2: doing now? And I just started laughing at them, and
30:44
Speaker 2: I said, look, number one, in twenty thirteen, when I
30:48
Speaker 2: did a twenty one hour filibuster on the floor, I
30:52
Speaker 2: was fighting for Americans. I was fighting for American citizens
30:56
Speaker 2: whose healthcare premiums had skyrocketed. And they had skyrocketed because
31:00
Speaker 2: Obamacare was a train wreck. It was a disaster. It
31:03
Speaker 2: caused a massive increase in health insurance premiums. It made
31:07
Speaker 2: the health insurance companies rich, and it made millions of
31:12
Speaker 2: ordinary Americans unable to afford health insurance. And by the way,
31:16
Speaker 2: I was also fighting for it at a time when
31:19
Speaker 2: the House of Representatives that was Republican had voted to
31:23
Speaker 2: fund the federal government, fund the entirety of the federal government,
31:27
Speaker 2: but not fund Obamacare, so not fund the law that
31:31
Speaker 2: was causing damage to American citizens. And I said, here,
31:34
Speaker 2: what's happening is Chuck Schumer is shutting down the federal
31:38
Speaker 2: government not to help American citizens who are getting hurt,
31:41
Speaker 2: but he's shutting down the federal government in order to
31:44
Speaker 2: help millions of illegal aliens and give them free health care.
31:49
Speaker 2: And he's willing to shut down your federal government to
31:52
Speaker 2: give free health care to illegals, and that fundamentally there's
31:57
Speaker 2: a hypocrisy to it. And I also said, said, you know,
32:01
Speaker 2: the reporters were like, isn't it the same? And I said, listen,
32:04
Speaker 2: let me be clear. In twenty thirteen, it was Chuck
32:09
Speaker 2: Schumer who shut the government down. Then I was trying
32:12
Speaker 2: to fund the entirety of the federal government except for Obamacare,
32:15
Speaker 2: and Chuck Schumer and Harry Reid decided, no, we'll shut
32:18
Speaker 2: it all down because we care so much about socialized medicine.
32:22
Speaker 2: And I told the reporters we had like fifty reporters
32:24
Speaker 2: standing outside the Senate Florida. I said, look, none of
32:27
Speaker 2: you guys reported that. You all blamed the shutdown on
32:30
Speaker 2: me because you're all left wing hacks. Yeah, today, all
32:35
Speaker 2: of you are still left wing hacks. You agree with
32:38
Speaker 2: the Democrats. But the facts are so overwhelming. It is
32:42
Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer and the Democrats who are shutting the government
32:45
Speaker 2: down that even you dishonest liars are reporting. This is
32:49
Speaker 2: the Schumer shutdown because the House has funded the government
32:54
Speaker 2: exactly the status quo. The funding yesterday has continued to tomorrow.
33:00
Speaker 2: It is the Democrats who said let's shut it down,
33:03
Speaker 2: and I think at the end of the day they're
33:05
Speaker 2: going to lose that battle. But this is what you
33:09
Speaker 2: got to ask yourself, is how long do the Democrats
33:11
Speaker 2: have to perform for their crazy left wing activists before
33:16
Speaker 2: they allow the government.
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Speaker 1: To reopen until the poll tells them otherwise. Is my guess.
33:21
Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting. I have a feeling you're right,
33:23
Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking about this for but but you know.
33:25
Speaker 2: What that they're not gonna trust. They're not going to
33:27
Speaker 2: trust the polls from that right wing mouthpiece and in
33:33
Speaker 2: the New York Times. But but but but maybe I
33:35
Speaker 2: don't know. When Mother Jones and and you know, Communist
33:39
Speaker 2: Party of America as a poll that shows they're losing,
33:41
Speaker 2: maybe then they'll give up.
33:43
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