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GRAMMY Award-winning artist/producer Mali Music on refusing to be put in a box · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: of my favorites man. He was on the show about
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Speaker 1: a year and a half ago, Molly Music. He's a
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Speaker 1: gospel artists first and foremost, but who will not be
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Speaker 1: put in a box. He loves the freedom of creating
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Speaker 1: amazing music, no matter what the genre is, gospel, R
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Speaker 1: and B, hip hop or rock. Whatever he feels, that's
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Speaker 1: his move. Molly Water grammed this year for the song
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Speaker 1: moving on his hit collaboration with Jonathan McReynolds. He's nominated
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Speaker 1: for three Stellar Awards this year. He's got back on
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Speaker 1: the road because COVID shut everybody down in twenty but
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Speaker 1: he's getting back out there. Gotta make that check, gotta
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Speaker 1: make that check. The things that started to open up
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Speaker 1: across the US, and we'll be announcing new music and
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Speaker 1: new tour dates coming soon and I'll be the first
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Speaker 1: to put him out there. For my man, Please work
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Speaker 1: with the money making conversations again, Molla music, How you doing,
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Speaker 1: Molly Wow McDonald, how's it going? What an honor beautiful
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Speaker 1: introduction to be back again a world, let's get it well.
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Speaker 1: The think about you that you know when we talk, man,
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Speaker 1: it was almost because I have a I come from
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Speaker 1: a big family, Molly, you know, from Houston, Texas. I
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Speaker 1: have a six sisters, two brothers, and I felt I
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Speaker 1: was talking to my younger brother here. Man, you know
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Speaker 1: because because you know you, you know you, you got
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Speaker 1: that energy man, you you you you still have unconquered
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Speaker 1: territories that you want to, like I want to, want
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Speaker 1: to want to make a difference in. But the more
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Speaker 1: effortant thing is we always can get boxed in, especially
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Speaker 1: we do R and B. People think all you should
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Speaker 1: be doing R and B. You do country? What you
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Speaker 1: what black? What you're doing over in country? You should
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Speaker 1: be over there. And so we've seen so many walls
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Speaker 1: coming down in our era and this timeline. Are you
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Speaker 1: feeling that's comfortable for what you're trying to do as well?
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Speaker 1: I do feel that it's effective, but comfortable is not
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Speaker 1: the words. Um. It's good for what we want business
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Speaker 1: to do. It's good for the spreading of our wings.
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Speaker 1: But it's kind of like a racial conversation. You open
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Speaker 1: up the doors to be heard out by a different race,
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Speaker 1: and then it gets uncomfortable for just because you start
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Speaker 1: bringing out different issues. I recently traveled to Nashville to
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Speaker 1: do some songwriting with Chad lead Saying of the rock
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Speaker 1: band Christian rock band Unspoken, and it was a challenge
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Speaker 1: for me, especially coming from soul background, gospel background. But
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Speaker 1: I had to remember I have songs out like Gimme,
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Speaker 1: Gimme Ready, aim impulses, songs that have rock feels for it.
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Speaker 1: So man, the spreading and the falling of the genres,
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Speaker 1: it's definitely good. I've been watching it happen in hip
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Speaker 1: hop and other genres for a long time, and I'm
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Speaker 1: glad that it's finally made it to the gospel. Well,
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Speaker 1: you're interesting, But it's about a beat, isn't it, Because
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Speaker 1: when you're talking about you know, because it is like
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Speaker 1: a one three or two four beat when you're talking
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Speaker 1: about music, when you're talking about R and B beats
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Speaker 1: and you're talking about we're talking about rock beats, especially
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Speaker 1: because they can a lot longer. How does that you know?
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Speaker 1: Because we all know that gospel is driven by emotion
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Speaker 1: and and so and so you're emotionally driven guy, and
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Speaker 1: then you're going to rock a lot of times it's
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Speaker 1: just driven by sound. So how do you blend the
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Speaker 1: two to get the results that you want? Excellent question. Well,
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Speaker 1: they bring me in. Normally, as a lyricist, I write
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Speaker 1: lyrics like you know mean comes only to still killing
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Speaker 1: and destroyed come in with things like that, I said,
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Speaker 1: a Christian rock band. One thing about the genre gospel
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Speaker 1: is it is sound. It doesn't necessarily have a sound anymore.
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Speaker 1: Of course, you have the Mahellia Jackson. You know, it
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Speaker 1: comes up. You know, you have the no not you know,
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Speaker 1: house of Prayer, and that's your house of prayer. You
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Speaker 1: get what I'm saying. Town, You have Baptist music, um
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Speaker 1: worship music like hill song and stuff like that. If
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Speaker 1: you notice, the music could be anything. Gospel and Christian
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Speaker 1: has now solely based in genre around the content as
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Speaker 1: long as at some point you say that Jesus Christ's Lord,
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Speaker 1: it could sound like any type of beat. You get
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Speaker 1: what I mean. So our genre is mostly about the
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Speaker 1: edification of God. Absolutely, But it is because we just
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Speaker 1: talk amusing that molly, okay, you know, because of the
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Speaker 1: fact that when you look at R and B, you know,
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Speaker 1: like you started naming different artists that they lie themselves
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Speaker 1: in that whole genre. Because because when you got the
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Speaker 1: hip hop and rap, it just like tore it self
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Speaker 1: away from RV it towards you just this is not
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Speaker 1: even RB. They don't even sing it, okay, clearly not
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Speaker 1: saying it. And then when you get into R and B.
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Speaker 1: Y had soul, you know, you had had the deal.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, all those different genres. So when when you
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Speaker 1: start talking about gospel, I started realizing, Man, there are
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Speaker 1: many many layers. When you talk about Man Jackson, you
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Speaker 1: talk about Kirk Franklin, you talk about yours. You know,
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Speaker 1: Donnie McClerkin, you John Kid wired right, how did that?
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Speaker 1: And that's from a creative standpoint, that's a challenge. Huh, yeah,
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Speaker 1: it could be. But what I noticed while coming up
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Speaker 1: in church is a lot of the creativity came out
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Speaker 1: of one person um creatively. Like you might have had
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Speaker 1: six people in Ricky dill its quiet, but they were
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Speaker 1: all a lot doing riggy and everything that would coming
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Speaker 1: out of their mouth. And the band was something that
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Speaker 1: he probably heard at a coffee table that a few
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Speaker 1: mornings before and taught them, say with Hezekiah. So being
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Speaker 1: a praise and worship leader, first I know that you
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Speaker 1: can spend time with God in the car, tell some
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Speaker 1: vocalists how to part go, tell the band and so
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Speaker 1: you know, and you're in a hospital of praise. So
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Speaker 1: a lot of the big ideas can come out of
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Speaker 1: one person. Beethoven had a whole orchestra, but it was
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Speaker 1: his music every line. So I think it's just u
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Speaker 1: you know, just based on who the idea is coming
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Speaker 1: out of, and it could be one person, even though
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Speaker 1: many people of health. You know, when I want to
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Speaker 1: look at you, Molly, I always say I have to
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Speaker 1: bring this question to everybody who comes to the show.
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Speaker 1: Just start for you, because I look at myself and
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Speaker 1: I try to pinpoint. I always tell people I've been
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Speaker 1: doing this since I was eighteen years old when I
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Speaker 1: really looked at my life. You know, I've been I've
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Speaker 1: been uplifting, I've been creative. I've been a person who
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Speaker 1: who thought differently, just saw I saw a different path
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Speaker 1: years old, I was committed to seeing more of that world.
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Speaker 1: So that so I locked that day. That's important when
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Speaker 1: it really started for me. And then I went to
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Speaker 1: Mallo music well out bagged my father for pro Tools,
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Speaker 1: after that thirteen, No four, No, fifteen, No, Dad's sprint Lee.
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Speaker 1: So I was a young musician coming in at the
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Speaker 1: So we didn't have an organ in that church. So
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Speaker 1: the keyboard wasn't enough, so I wanted strings. I wanted
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Speaker 1: all these different types of things. So that's what kind
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Speaker 1: the pro tools, and it became really awesome, but it
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Speaker 1: didn't hit until the world heard it on my space
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Speaker 1: and that's where social media comes in. That so my
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Speaker 1: music was right on the curve of a shift, and
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Speaker 1: once everybody heard it online because black Planet just died,
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Speaker 1: I was in my Space artist by the time they
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Speaker 1: found Molly Music. I had my song I Hate You
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Speaker 1: So talking about when you when collaborations, the one you
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Speaker 1: the way, moving on, thank you so much. It was
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Speaker 1: they are. But so many things were going on, and
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Speaker 1: I just really wanted to help so many people. I
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Speaker 1: excited to see that his promotion finally came. So it's
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Speaker 1: interested in functioning with the system this way. But if
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Speaker 1: and I could have success and it worked out happy.
20:01
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20:04
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20:09
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20:34
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20:37
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20:39
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20:43
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20:49
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20:54
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20:57
Speaker 1: adults considered a gifted individual because you just don't slide
21:01
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21:04
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21:07
Speaker 1: clean up your room, because that was happening at the house,
21:10
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21:14
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21:17
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21:20
Speaker 1: So it was a blessing because I'll see, I'm thirteen
21:24
Speaker 1: years old and the power God falls at a at
21:27
Speaker 1: a meeting um and then I get spoken to by
21:31
Speaker 1: one of the elder women, one of the grandma, and
21:34
Speaker 1: this is all she's gonna say. She will never get
21:36
Speaker 1: around the saying good job. She says, don't forget where
21:41
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21:44
Speaker 1: seen me go and play. You forgot to tell me that,
21:47
Speaker 1: but she let me know no matter what that I
21:49
Speaker 1: needed to be humble. And I remember those people or
21:51
Speaker 1: they'll say, all right, keep doing what you're doing. Don't
21:53
Speaker 1: change nothing. They're gonna ask you to do this, dude,
21:55
Speaker 1: that don't change nothing. I'm like, yes, ma'am, you know
21:58
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay. That happened I just remember those people
22:02
Speaker 1: who say, remember the little people when you get there.
22:04
Speaker 1: And it's cool because it's a bit back and forth
22:07
Speaker 1: because you have some elite people who want to feel
22:10
Speaker 1: that they're around other pompous people. Um, but that's just
22:14
Speaker 1: not the way that I'm bringing it. God brings all success,
22:17
Speaker 1: and we're lucky to get whatever we get in the
22:18
Speaker 1: first place. And it's all about loving people. So that's
22:22
Speaker 1: the greatest wealth. Any money that I ever got came
22:24
Speaker 1: from somebody. Absolutely get what I mean. Absolutely, Hey, Molly,
22:27
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22:31
Speaker 1: win this year with his collaboration moving on with Jonathan
22:34
Speaker 1: mc reynolds, and then some interview and feel Thornton and
22:36
Speaker 1: then I just run through this list though all the
22:40
Speaker 1: artists from the label r C A I, which is
22:43
Speaker 1: based out of Nashville. And I saw Molly Music three nominations.
22:47
Speaker 1: I said, I got to get it. It was just
22:50
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22:53
Speaker 1: I've been It's it's awesome, I said. I said, I
22:56
Speaker 1: got to get him on the show and talk about
22:58
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23:00
Speaker 1: said the Stellar Awards, I see you because because we're
23:02
Speaker 1: gonna talk about this year, but I want to go
23:04
Speaker 1: back in because that's when you're gonna really tell me
23:07
Speaker 1: the story of how this happened for you had to
23:11
Speaker 1: work through the obstacles of last year. They get where
23:14
Speaker 1: we got absolutely, and so those three nominations, how does
23:18
Speaker 1: that make you feel? You know, uh, just talk about
23:21
Speaker 1: the steps and of that process. Like you said, the
23:24
Speaker 1: team get them because we don't do this by ourselves,
23:28
Speaker 1: and sometimes out there we feel like we buy ourselves.
23:31
Speaker 1: But you at three nominations Stellar Awards, talk about that determination, perseverance,
23:38
Speaker 1: and faith. I can't necessarily say like in releasing it,
23:43
Speaker 1: like oh man, this is locked up. It wasn't like
23:46
Speaker 1: that for me because there was so many business things
23:49
Speaker 1: that started to happen. This was my first project as
23:52
Speaker 1: an owner of K approved E n T, which is,
23:56
Speaker 1: you know, my company. That's where I'm going to be
23:58
Speaker 1: releasing other artists so they don't have to endure the
24:00
Speaker 1: things that I had to endure it to get where
24:01
Speaker 1: I am. So my attempt from being independent and not
24:06
Speaker 1: being signed anymore than now in this licensing situation with
24:09
Speaker 1: philth Thor and Ron Hill over r C A, I
24:12
Speaker 1: I wanted to create a label to when I saw
24:14
Speaker 1: the next Molley's and when I saw the next time,
24:16
Speaker 1: and I could protected it, you know, harvested it and
24:19
Speaker 1: push it out. So the Book of Molly was my
24:21
Speaker 1: first project from that licensing thing, and it was difficult
24:26
Speaker 1: financially paying producers, uh publishing, of getting clearances on any samples,
24:34
Speaker 1: getting all musicians taken care of. It was cool because
24:38
Speaker 1: it's it's a blessing on a small level. But if
24:41
Speaker 1: you play piano on a John Legend song, how much
24:43
Speaker 1: money are you gonna ask for? At the end, You're
24:46
Speaker 1: not gonna say no, it's okay, just give me a
24:48
Speaker 1: hundred dollars. You're gonna be trying to find out how
24:50
Speaker 1: to get enough money for the rest of your life
24:53
Speaker 1: because you played piano on a John Legends. That was
24:59
Speaker 1: one of the things that had me a bit discouraged,
25:03
Speaker 1: you know, and it's always that way because of the
25:05
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25:07
Speaker 1: but because then you're sitting over there just answering to
25:11
Speaker 1: somebody to be able to make that commitment paying taxes,
25:15
Speaker 1: you know, paying for paying value. And you can understand
25:18
Speaker 1: that how this really works, how a Tyler Perer in
25:22
Speaker 1: the work. I can assure you ty Perwer knows everybody paying. Okay,
25:25
Speaker 1: how will Packer, how all these steve harder, all these
25:28
Speaker 1: people are able to do, Reneme, Oprah Winfrey, You're just
25:32
Speaker 1: doing what they're doing. And believe me, they know who
25:34
Speaker 1: they pay and they also know the pain infrastruction of
25:38
Speaker 1: being an entrepreneur. So you went from a talent to
25:41
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur, and that's important because that allows you to
25:45
Speaker 1: collaborate and know what money you would do properly or
25:48
Speaker 1: what makes you so much for noting that that's so
25:51
Speaker 1: awesome for you to see and and catch because I
25:55
Speaker 1: can only hope that that is what happens, because a
25:58
Speaker 1: lot of people still see me as a talent. But
26:00
Speaker 1: you can only go so far there without the proper team.
26:03
Speaker 1: And this is a huge step for me. So you're
26:06
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26:09
Speaker 1: for people, yourself or the world from this the artist's position.
26:13
Speaker 1: So it's good to like be in a position that
26:15
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26:17
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26:19
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26:22
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26:25
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26:28
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26:32
Speaker 1: that you can't do that, or they tell you can't
26:35
Speaker 1: do that because it's so complicated. And so I could
26:38
Speaker 1: assure you when you was making this transition, it was
26:41
Speaker 1: a lot of as they say, trepidation, fear, study, you know,
26:45
Speaker 1: go uh am, I gonna make a mistake. I don't
26:47
Speaker 1: want to mess up. And then when you did it,
26:50
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26:52
Speaker 1: back in Los Angeles by two thousand three. When I
26:56
Speaker 1: finished it, I realized, I said, I started crying because
26:59
Speaker 1: of the fact that all along I could have done
27:02
Speaker 1: this when I had been told I couldn't do it
27:05
Speaker 1: because it was so hard to do. And so when
27:08
Speaker 1: I hear you saying, man, it was a lot of stress,
27:10
Speaker 1: it was like, that's part of the process of walking
27:13
Speaker 1: through fire. Yeah, and you do it again and again
27:18
Speaker 1: and again, and guess what, it's not because it's easier
27:21
Speaker 1: because you trust yourself, right, And that's why we're trying
27:25
Speaker 1: to get that. When I'm talking to you as a
27:27
Speaker 1: person who said, look what, I won't be pigeonholed because
27:30
Speaker 1: I want to know what it feels like to do
27:32
Speaker 1: R and B music. I want to know what to
27:34
Speaker 1: feel like do rock music. I wanted to feel hip
27:36
Speaker 1: hop music because guess what, then I understand my value.
27:40
Speaker 1: And that's all this conversation about is about your value.
27:43
Speaker 1: The first time I met you, I always felt I
27:45
Speaker 1: was talking to a uniquely different individual because you value
27:48
Speaker 1: things differently. And now you tell me you've been doing
27:51
Speaker 1: this since you were eleven years old, I appreciate and
27:54
Speaker 1: respect you even more. Man, I'm grateful for that, all right.
27:58
Speaker 1: Was blessed to be able to have those civilities, and
28:01
Speaker 1: you just nailed it. I'm so honored that you've been
28:04
Speaker 1: seeing and following what I've been able to do, because
28:07
Speaker 1: I can only hope that is that a lot of
28:09
Speaker 1: times you know, as you said, we think with myself
28:11
Speaker 1: and that people miss it. So it's really cool to see.
28:14
Speaker 1: But all of the positions were necessary. The first one
28:17
Speaker 1: was a servant leader. My mother was doing a lot
28:20
Speaker 1: of the management with Holly Carter. I was young. I
28:23
Speaker 1: had confidence in the music, but I'm not necessarily confidence
28:26
Speaker 1: in the meeting room, so I wouldn't speak much. I
28:29
Speaker 1: was also directed and told not to speak much. How
28:32
Speaker 1: have I started noticing that at the end of the day,
28:34
Speaker 1: I had the final say. So if I had the
28:36
Speaker 1: final say, I started trying to work my way into
28:38
Speaker 1: getting the first say, and you know, versus it kind
28:41
Speaker 1: of going all the way through and it me seeming
28:43
Speaker 1: like it's not that. But at the end of the day,
28:46
Speaker 1: that's the only way that I can keep it in
28:47
Speaker 1: God's hands. That's the only way that I can keep
28:48
Speaker 1: the integrity of my anointing clear. If I wasn't in
28:51
Speaker 1: a situation where I can control these things, people will
28:54
Speaker 1: continue to say, even in churches, Molly, we want you
28:57
Speaker 1: to sing, but don't sing this song, don't say this,
29:00
Speaker 1: don't be this, don't act like this. Once I started
29:02
Speaker 1: recognizing and seeing that that's what was going to happen
29:05
Speaker 1: early in Gospel, I knew it was time to get
29:07
Speaker 1: out because there was no way to be what I
29:09
Speaker 1: was without the housekeepers of the places I was going
29:12
Speaker 1: to sing at protecting their people, right, and they protect
29:15
Speaker 1: their people from me. So I'm like, well, I just
29:17
Speaker 1: got to get out so I could go ahead and
29:18
Speaker 1: be everything that God said and then you guys won't
29:21
Speaker 1: have to worry about what you're telling me not to do.
29:23
Speaker 1: And it worked out in spite of a world of people,
29:26
Speaker 1: a whole wave of creative people, and it's caused me
29:29
Speaker 1: to not be able to stop even when the world stops.
29:32
Speaker 1: During the pandemic, I was a visualizing myself as a
29:35
Speaker 1: Joseph like, Okay, well, everybody may not be able to
29:39
Speaker 1: get the best of what they wanted or liked while
29:41
Speaker 1: everything was flowing, but they could at least get this
29:43
Speaker 1: weak They could at least get something. And uh, and
29:47
Speaker 1: I have it stored up, So how can I bring
29:49
Speaker 1: it out? I already have an album out? How can
29:52
Speaker 1: I release the more? And partner with other people? And
29:54
Speaker 1: keep saying? And it worked. COVID shut down music, shut
29:58
Speaker 1: down our lives. You're down two dates. Now we've got
30:02
Speaker 1: new music. We got two days coming of tell us
30:04
Speaker 1: how one is going to play yourself out for a man,
30:08
Speaker 1: it's so packed and stacked, and a lot of my
30:12
Speaker 1: colleagues are excited because they're saying that this is what
30:15
Speaker 1: they wanted. But during the pandemic, I recognize that I
30:19
Speaker 1: did not want to make my money on the road
30:21
Speaker 1: primarily maybe when I was younger and all this stuff
30:25
Speaker 1: like that, And I get opportunities to sing and travel
30:27
Speaker 1: now because I really want to see my people and
30:29
Speaker 1: I love the stage. Um. However, as a soul, you know,
30:35
Speaker 1: commodity or a stream of income, I don't feel like
30:38
Speaker 1: it's the ways. Uh, there's so many ways to make
30:41
Speaker 1: a thousand dollars, ten thousand dollars overnight if you can
30:44
Speaker 1: get the education and look versus waiting a whole month
30:48
Speaker 1: stressing your body and banging your body to gain five
30:51
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. You know here seven thousand dollars there sitting
30:56
Speaker 1: down forced me to say, Okay, this is God's way
30:59
Speaker 1: of making everybody's strong instinct from them. So this is
31:03
Speaker 1: a year for us to adopt and adapt new hobbies.
31:07
Speaker 1: And I used it to create new streams of income
31:10
Speaker 1: just in case the ones that closed never came back.
31:12
Speaker 1: So now I created five, and then the five I
31:15
Speaker 1: had came back, and I was ten strings of income.
31:18
Speaker 1: And you know, it's a really crazy thing, and I
31:19
Speaker 1: wanted to make sure that the other five had nothing
31:21
Speaker 1: to do with music. So now when I sing, I
31:24
Speaker 1: primarily use the increase that I get from singing to
31:27
Speaker 1: tap into another entrepreneur. Mine to be able to buy
31:31
Speaker 1: stocks or invest in juices or milk or something that
31:35
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31:39
Speaker 1: being great. Get what I'm saying, Well, you know I
31:42
Speaker 1: because I'm I look at the I went back and
31:46
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31:49
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31:51
Speaker 1: what I want to buy. I picked our ten stocks
31:54
Speaker 1: that I said, these are ones I want to buy. Oh,
31:56
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31:59
Speaker 1: do you know, I mean ever trust myself and I
32:03
Speaker 1: never trust myself. And so but I want to close
32:06
Speaker 1: and saying this about you is that you know, we've
32:10
Speaker 1: seen everybody as we go back live and things, and
32:14
Speaker 1: we've seen an over ground swell of people wanted to
32:17
Speaker 1: see live events, you know, people concerts selling out the
32:21
Speaker 1: two or three shows, comedy show. I think this is
32:23
Speaker 1: going to be such a unique moment for you, Molly,
32:26
Speaker 1: because to be able, this is the annointing time I
32:29
Speaker 1: think for individuals like you to get out there not
32:32
Speaker 1: only to deliver your music, but to hear people wanted
32:34
Speaker 1: to receive it, and I just think it's gonna be
32:37
Speaker 1: a great year for you, man, and I respect so
32:40
Speaker 1: much what you've accomplished in the past. You got my
32:42
Speaker 1: hands up, you got my hands up. I receive it.
32:49
Speaker 1: I want to walk in it with grace and um
32:54
Speaker 1: heavenly anointing. I just don't want to take any read
33:00
Speaker 1: it for it because I can mess it up with
33:01
Speaker 1: human frustration, limitation, all this stuff like that. But I
33:05
Speaker 1: do feel like it's a last of events, so I
33:08
Speaker 1: don't want to just keep saying to everybody, this is
33:10
Speaker 1: the time for stories, plays, short short stuff, conversations like
33:15
Speaker 1: this on stage. It's time for people to I guess,
33:18
Speaker 1: feel what it feels like to be around people again.
33:22
Speaker 1: And if we're creative in making events that are new,
33:26
Speaker 1: then we could just continue to That's what I'm talking
33:29
Speaker 1: about this, That's all I'm talking about that because you know,
33:32
Speaker 1: because when you were talking about you know, you know
33:34
Speaker 1: you make five thousand, then we I know, we got that.
33:36
Speaker 1: But the basis of what we do in gospel is emotion.
33:39
Speaker 1: It's driven by opportunities, it's driven by blessing and the
33:43
Speaker 1: fact that you're about to step out into the world
33:46
Speaker 1: and be received again and people are about to understand
33:50
Speaker 1: the value of the Holy Spirit. My man, my hands
33:53
Speaker 1: up because wow, palms out, hands up. Point that you baby,
33:58
Speaker 1: point that you, Molly music man. I feel what you're
34:02
Speaker 1: saying is so right. I had a conversation with Jonathan
34:04
Speaker 1: mc reynolds. We're getting ready to do a Victory Lab album,
34:07
Speaker 1: just something for us together since God brought us to Victory,
34:11
Speaker 1: and he was saying, Mony, some people are looking for
34:13
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34:14
Speaker 1: nobody else. Don't do nothing else. We're looking to you.
34:17
Speaker 1: And it was really special for him to give me
34:19
Speaker 1: that moment because sometimes as a leader, or you know,
34:23
Speaker 1: somebody in an authority position, you might not take the
34:26
Speaker 1: full power of the dominion that God gives for the
34:30
Speaker 1: safe of caring. But sometimes He just needs you to
34:32
Speaker 1: do like Christ, handle the work and let everybody be blessed.
34:36
Speaker 1: That's all I gotta say to your young brother, because
34:39
Speaker 1: I'm glad you've took the time to talk to me,
34:41
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34:44
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34:46
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34:49
Speaker 1: first time I paid the people are and man, I'm
34:52
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34:54
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