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Keep Winning Info #5 - First-hand tips about overcoming depression · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: He's on the call and I had him on the
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Speaker 1: show before and it really dealt into chronic pain, mental stress,
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Speaker 1: overcoming the odds. His name is Jackson Dunbar. He triumphed
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Speaker 1: by earning a comfortable living after having lost it all.
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Speaker 1: Dunbar's committed to creating a new normal life for himself,
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Speaker 1: deliberately focused on his physical health and strength, continue to
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Speaker 1: earn an income while still in chronic pain, and without
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Speaker 1: his knowledge, was teaching himself and possibly the world, a
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Speaker 1: hand account on how he made money, lost nanty pals,
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Speaker 1: and thrived in chronic pain in the financial and health
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Speaker 1: care worlds. Please welcome the money Making Conversation master class
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Speaker 1: again the one and only Jackson Dunbar. How you doing, sir, great?
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me. And I want
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Speaker 2: to say congratulations on the world.
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Speaker 1: I appreciate appreciate it, you know, because you know I
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Speaker 1: had to be nominated by it. I didn't. I didn't
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Speaker 1: do the nomination myself. When it was an email was
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Speaker 1: sent to me, I was surprised and uh taking am
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Speaker 1: back about it in a good way, you know, because
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Speaker 1: when I invite you and I meet people like you.
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Speaker 1: I'm being educated, Jackson. I'm being confronted with information I
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Speaker 1: didn't know about. And I'm just going to share something
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Speaker 1: I was on vacation. I hurt my knee, Jackson, and
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Speaker 1: right now it's hurt right now, my left knee, and
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Speaker 1: so I continue to walk up the heels, I continue
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Speaker 1: to do everything with my family, and that ice packed it.
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Speaker 1: So I'm dealing with a degree of pain as we speak.
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Speaker 1: But I wanted to get into detail and talk about
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Speaker 1: the pain that you're dealing with. I would like to
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Speaker 1: believe you're dealing with it currently. Correct.
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I am. I am a chronic pain patient
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Speaker 2: due to a car accident, chronic paying patient to someone
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Speaker 2: that's in Constant Paine over six months. I've been in
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Speaker 2: Constant Paine since twenty fifteen. That was when my accident occurred.
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Speaker 2: And yeah, I just have to deal with it.
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Speaker 1: When you say that now, right now, there's a you know,
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Speaker 1: I've had pain. I was in the hospital for thirty days.
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Speaker 1: My lung collapsed, and I remember, I'll shared the story
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Speaker 1: with everybody. I remember when I went into hospital, it
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Speaker 1: was in an emergency and the doctor pulled back the
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Speaker 1: courage and he said, we don't do immediate surgery on you,
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Speaker 1: you will die. I can always remember that statement. You
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Speaker 1: said that because my lung had collapsed so much that
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Speaker 1: I you know, you know it's interesting how you're long
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Speaker 1: you when it collapsed, it becomes the size of a quarters.
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Speaker 1: How that's how big it was when it collapsed. And
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Speaker 1: and and they had to so they had to do
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Speaker 1: surgery on me by making an incision or right above
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Speaker 1: my or along my small rib cage to insert a tube. Well,
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Speaker 1: guess what, they couldn't dead in anything. I had to
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Speaker 1: feel the incision. I had to feel the two being
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Speaker 1: inserted in me and deal with the pain. And I remember, Jackson,
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Speaker 1: it was just it was a moment where you just
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Speaker 1: had to deal with it. Otherwise the results wouldn't have
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Speaker 1: came out that would allow me to talk today. How
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Speaker 1: did you because that was just an incident, but you're
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Speaker 1: dealing with it twenty four hours a day.
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Speaker 2: How I think the hard part, and this took a
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Speaker 2: few years for me, was I was focused on what
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Speaker 2: I lost. The summer before the accident, I ran the
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Speaker 2: peach tree. I ran the peach tree with my wife, right,
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Speaker 2: you know. I used to back around thumb mountain time
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Speaker 2: with my son. So I think the first three years
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Speaker 2: of this I focused on that, and then what happened.
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Speaker 2: I started I met a minister and she told me, hey,
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Speaker 2: why don't you start focusing on the things you can do,
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Speaker 2: and then suggested I get therapy, on which I did.
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Speaker 2: I got to say, if you're chronic pain patient and
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Speaker 2: you don't have a good mental health team that can
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Speaker 2: help you focus on those things that can keep your
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Speaker 2: focus and moving forward, yeah, you're missing a great piece
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Speaker 2: of something that's going to make you healthy long term.
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Speaker 2: So after after I got the tools in order to
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Speaker 2: figure out how to focus on what I could do,
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Speaker 2: what I could do for myself, what I could do
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Speaker 2: for my family, what I could do for my community.
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Speaker 2: Then it became like any other problem I was solving business,
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Speaker 2: I myself. I have always been told I'm I create
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Speaker 2: a problem solver. Problem became, Hey, how do I make
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Speaker 2: How do I make money even though I can't leave
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Speaker 2: my house? How do I lose weight even though I'm
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Speaker 2: on pay meds that make me gain weight? How do
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Speaker 2: I thrive in crime pain even though I'm on mids
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Speaker 2: that make me suicidal? How do I deal with the
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Speaker 2: racism that's singdemic and pain medacine treatment. As a middle
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Speaker 2: aged black man who often Yeah, even though eighty percent
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Speaker 2: of the people that die from opiate overdoses are white
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Speaker 2: men and women between the ages of twenty five and
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Speaker 2: thirty two, I'm stereotyped often when I go in order
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Speaker 2: to get my medications. He's the reason I wrote my
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Speaker 2: book Race Matters and Pay Medicine, How I made money,
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Speaker 2: Lost ninety pounds and where IV in crime Pain.
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Speaker 1: It was interesting because a lot of sickle cell patients
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Speaker 1: get stereotype as drug users when they come in and
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Speaker 1: try to seek drug medication because they know what they're
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Speaker 1: supposed to get and they know they know why they
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Speaker 1: should be getting it, and people will call them or
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Speaker 1: accuse them of being drug users. So that a lot
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Speaker 1: of it is due to the fact because they are
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Speaker 1: people of color, they are offering the minority community and
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Speaker 1: people are stereotyping them. So I would have to say
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Speaker 1: that you oftentimes was a victim of stereotyping. Correct.
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, even despite the numbers that most of the
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Speaker 2: people who are dying from this do not look like us.
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Speaker 1: Wow, Now, it was something you put out there that
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Speaker 1: I wanted to bring back because in twenty twenty, during COVID,
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Speaker 1: therapy became a rise in the Black community, you know,
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Speaker 1: became a normal part of the conversation, the mental health conversation.
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Speaker 1: A lot of famous people started confessing their issues, a
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Speaker 1: lot of athletes started confessing their issues or with mental health,
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Speaker 1: and they COVID really sent people over the edge. A
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Speaker 1: lot of relationships were lost during the COVID period due
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Speaker 1: to mental strain. Now you said the word therapy. Now
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Speaker 1: with that a word, did you could share publicly with
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Speaker 1: your friends, with your people that you cared about as strangers,
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Speaker 1: without being looked upon as a person with a problem.
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Speaker 2: You know what My favorite chapter in this book is
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Speaker 2: real Black men don't do therapy. And what's funny about
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Speaker 2: that is that I ownly Well met Atlanta. We're a
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Speaker 2: group of African American child and adolescent psychiatrists that work
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Speaker 2: in the Greater Atlanta area. So I'm surrounded by a
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Speaker 2: psychiatrists and for whatever, and they were telling me, hey, listen,
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Speaker 2: something's off with you. I think you need therapy, and
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Speaker 2: I just wasn't hearing it. And it wasn't until what
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Speaker 2: what happened. I was taking my daughter to the hair store.
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Speaker 2: Sally's right, yeah, closed the door on my face. I
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Speaker 2: started yelling at him. He called me an old man,
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Speaker 2: that this old man can kick your butt, and my
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Speaker 2: daughter was afraid of me.
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Speaker 1: And he little Jackson, that was you talk about the
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Speaker 1: old man could kick your butt. That was you.
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Speaker 3: And I was in a scooter saying this. I can
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Speaker 3: imagine that I was in a shooter telling some twenty
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Speaker 3: year old pump okay that could beat him down.
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Speaker 2: And I had my nine year.
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Speaker 4: Old daughter there right right, and she looked.
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Speaker 2: At me like I was crazy. And I came home.
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Speaker 2: I told my wife, Hey, you know what you're right,
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Speaker 2: Adam minimum all the work that I put into at
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Speaker 2: that time, I put a lot of work into my diet,
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Speaker 2: dropping weight in order to manage the pain, put any
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Speaker 2: work into my into my mind. So she helped me
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Speaker 2: find a therapist that focused in chronic pain and the
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Speaker 2: psychiatrist that did as well. And the psychiatrist wasn't my
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Speaker 2: saving grace because what she was able to do was
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Speaker 2: lay out all my meds. At this time. The pain
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Speaker 2: doctor was giving me meds, the PCP was giving me meds,
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Speaker 2: the urologists was getting I was getting mads from everybody,
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Speaker 2: but there was no one serving as as a quarterback,
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Speaker 2: you know, to basically say hey, these meds should go here,
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Speaker 2: these meds shouldn't be here. Whatever psychiatrists did all that,
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Speaker 2: she was like, Okay, this is what's making you crazy,
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Speaker 2: that's making you gang weight. Yeah. So basically she got
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Speaker 2: rid of some things, outed some mothers, and then finally
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Speaker 2: think right and be myself again. It was it was
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Speaker 2: almost as if Hey, the person that I was was
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Speaker 2: gone for years and the finally I could think the
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Speaker 2: way the way I normally did.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, because a lot of people who deal with I
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Speaker 1: get there. I hear this, bipolar illnesses complain about the meds.
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Speaker 1: They they often the time they will drop off of them.
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Speaker 5: You know.
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Speaker 1: I recently interviewed Will Downing and his daughter was bipolar
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Speaker 1: and she committed suicide January of this year. And so
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Speaker 1: because of the fact that she got off of meds
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Speaker 1: and because of that uncomfiden zone, she went into isolation,
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Speaker 1: and of course isolation. So recently I say that we're
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Speaker 1: about to we're going to go to a break. But
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Speaker 1: when I come back, I want to talk about your
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Speaker 1: support groups that got you through it, because of the
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Speaker 1: fact that when you came back home after that incident
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Speaker 1: that your daughter saw, you spoke to your wife and
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Speaker 1: that was an important conversation because that led you to
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Speaker 1: the better life that you lived today. We'll be right
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Speaker 1: back for more money making conversation talking to mister Jackson Dunbar.
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Speaker 1: We'll be getting to financial fire financial literacy later on
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Speaker 1: this show, but more importantly, How I made money is chat.
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Speaker 1: How I made money, lost ninety pounds and thrived in
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Speaker 1: chronic pain. If we were like, we'll be right back
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Speaker 1: I'm speaking with Jackson Gumbar. If you want to join
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Speaker 1: the conversation, I want to share your stories about mental
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Speaker 1: health recovery, accepting the fact that you needed of therapy
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Speaker 1: or in your life, because the whole thing about it
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Speaker 1: is I'm just trying to create an open line of conversation,
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Speaker 1: and so many people like us, people of colors, especially
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Speaker 1: men who avoid I've told people many times I probably
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Speaker 1: have dealt with depression many times in my life and
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Speaker 1: didn't even know it. I just dealt with it. And uh,
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Speaker 1: And you don't have to do that. You don't have
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Speaker 1: to deal with something by yourself. You don't have to
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Speaker 1: be a shame that something that's happening in your life
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Speaker 1: that's making you uncomfortable. And that's what this show really
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Speaker 1: is about. Money making Conversations, masterclass. It's a journey into
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Speaker 1: your spirit, into your soul with information and hopefully these
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Speaker 1: interviews will motivate you to be honest with yourself, will
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Speaker 1: be motivated, will motivate you to share your understanding that
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Speaker 1: you can make a difference in life. That's all I do.
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Speaker 1: I get up every day trying to make a difference.
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Speaker 1: And I feel that my interview that I've had for
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Speaker 1: the second time with Jackson Dunbar, because he impacted a
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Speaker 1: lot of people the last time he was on the show,
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Speaker 1: and bringing him back on the show really is kind
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Speaker 1: of like defining his purpose. His purpose is to let
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Speaker 1: people hear his story and motivate them to be winners.
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Speaker 1: Am I correct? Jackson?
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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me back.
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Speaker 1: Well, you know, I'll be honest with you. You know a
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Speaker 1: lot of people came to including one of my producers,
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Speaker 1: uh was recommending that I bring you back and said, Rashan,
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Speaker 1: we should really look at developing a show, especially in
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Speaker 1: around men and mental health, men in therapy, men in
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Speaker 1: you know, within the black community, we are you know,
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Speaker 1: we you know, last, high, first fire, last to get
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Speaker 1: the information on the financial end, last to get information
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Speaker 1: on therapy, scept the responsibility deny the gay community within
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Speaker 1: our household, deny there's age in our household. We're such
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Speaker 1: an in denial community that we're in the end, we
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Speaker 1: are only hurting ourselves by being misinformed about what we
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Speaker 1: can do. And when you write a book like this,
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Speaker 1: which I feel is a very very purposeful book, How
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Speaker 1: I Made Money? You know, it's one of the chapters
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Speaker 1: in your book, what promlet do you select investing as
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Speaker 1: a money maker?
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Speaker 2: I think what I did. I think any trying to
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Speaker 2: pain patient and my position should do this as well.
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Speaker 2: Come to the reality that you are limited in what
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Speaker 2: you can do. If you're lucky with the payments, you
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Speaker 2: may have a few hours of lucidity at best. So
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Speaker 2: the question is is what's the best way to make money,
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Speaker 2: the biggest bang for the buck in that short amount
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Speaker 2: of time. And for me, it was investing. Let's see,
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Speaker 2: because of because I have a lot of great in NBA,
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Speaker 2: I spent a lot of time crunching numbers and analyzing
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Speaker 2: trends in my career, so I thought, hey, why why
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Speaker 2: can't I use that for the stock market. So essentially
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Speaker 2: what I did was I said, hey, how much money
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Speaker 2: could I afford to lose on a trip to Vegas.
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Speaker 2: I'm talking hotel, airfare, gambling, whatnot. I'll without losing any sleep.
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Speaker 2: So I took those funds and I started investing.
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Speaker 1: I think, so let's give us a number of day.
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Speaker 1: I don't know how what's your trip to Vegas? Are
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Speaker 1: you know Softwales or your first class on Delta? What
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Speaker 1: do you roll with a do you roll with an
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Speaker 1: off strip motel? Or you on the strip? You know
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Speaker 1: in caesar Please please let us know what is your
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Speaker 1: version of a Vegas trip? Jackson?
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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so hey, I'm way too over Southwest, I'm blind,
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Speaker 2: I'm staying at Caesars.
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Speaker 1: There you go.
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Speaker 3: When I get there, there you go, there you go,
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Speaker 3: there you go.
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Speaker 2: Okay, So so let's say five to.
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Speaker 1: Ten grand, there you go, there you go. You working there?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so five to ten granted. And at the
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Speaker 2: time when I started, interest rates were zero, so everybody
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Speaker 2: was making money, right, so I figured, hey, I had
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Speaker 2: more credentials than my financial planner. Why not give it
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Speaker 2: a shot. First month I turned that I what tripled
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Speaker 2: that money?
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Speaker 1: Okay? Now now then when you say that, now, you
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Speaker 1: gotta slow it down my team, because that's when they
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Speaker 1: get injured. This money made conversations massacre. How did you
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Speaker 1: triple your money? Was it crypto? Because that was a
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Speaker 1: big that was kind of like the raisee there Crypto
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Speaker 1: money get flipped real quick bigcoin? Did you what? What
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Speaker 1: made you make decisions on? Will you tech? Where were
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Speaker 1: you at with your money?
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Speaker 2: Okay? Where was I at?
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Speaker 3: Neo?
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Speaker 2: I made most of that money on Neo, and and
20:25
Speaker 2: I did get on I did get on bigcoin at
20:28
Speaker 2: four thousand, so TOCI by accident to this day, if
20:32
Speaker 2: I put that money on Ethereum, yeah, life that would
20:37
Speaker 2: have been life changing. But bigcoin is one of those
20:41
Speaker 2: things is that you get on at a low let's
20:45
Speaker 2: see at a low cost, Bashes, leave it alone. You'll
20:48
Speaker 2: come back a year and bam, there's all this money.
20:50
Speaker 2: That was what happened to me there at the at
20:53
Speaker 2: the same time, anything.
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Speaker 6: Jack saying, you know you heard.
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Speaker 1: I feel is over here. Bam, all that money, it's
21:04
Speaker 1: some people out there. They're by ready to commit suicide.
21:07
Speaker 1: Listen to this call. I'm telling you we're not trying
21:10
Speaker 1: to put people in the stress lane. When you can't
21:12
Speaker 1: say bam, all that money that that that hurts my feeling.
21:17
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you, Jack, that hurts my feeling.
21:19
Speaker 2: You know what's funny, Okay, When I started investing, within
21:23
Speaker 2: a month, I went from my wife leaving the house.
21:27
Speaker 2: I'm on the sofa in pain. You know how your
21:31
Speaker 2: wife can look at you if you're not working, she's
21:32
Speaker 2: got to go to work.
21:33
Speaker 4: Right right, right, right right, Yeah, my wife understands the
21:38
Speaker 4: pain I'm in, but still it's like, why is this
21:42
Speaker 4: guy on the couch and I gotta go out.
21:46
Speaker 2: I went from that and a month to baby, You've.
21:51
Speaker 4: Had this skill set our whole life.
21:53
Speaker 3: And you never once thought about using it.
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Speaker 6: And Jackson, Jacks, You're funny, she said, baby like that, baby, baby, yes, yes.
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Speaker 2: And thirty days I couldn't believe.
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Speaker 1: She went from cutting to evili You rolled around in
22:15
Speaker 1: the wheelchair the baby. You got a skill set. I
22:19
Speaker 1: didn't know you had. Come on over here, come over here,
22:21
Speaker 1: let let's talk. But that, but that skill set. You know,
22:25
Speaker 1: God is good in a lot of ways because of
22:27
Speaker 1: the fact that you took advantage of You could have
22:30
Speaker 1: sat in the corner and complained, took your drugs, not
22:33
Speaker 1: do therapy, and embarrass your daughter every year on her
22:37
Speaker 1: birthday because you were mad at the life, because you
22:40
Speaker 1: felt sorry for yourself. You know, because of the fact
22:43
Speaker 1: that you know, right now my knee hurt, but it's
22:46
Speaker 1: not in chronic pain. Because right now, when I get up,
22:49
Speaker 1: I'm gonna feel the pain because my knee is at
22:51
Speaker 1: an angle and I start to walk. I'm a feeling.
22:53
Speaker 1: But you know, I tend to want to get a
22:56
Speaker 1: clearer understanding if you could help me and my listeners.
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Speaker 1: What is a day in the life of a person
23:05
Speaker 1: who's in criminal pain from when they get up or
23:07
Speaker 1: what they try to sleep? What is that? And how
23:10
Speaker 1: does that feel? And how do you how do you
23:12
Speaker 1: how do what's that day to day out our experience.
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Speaker 2: Okay, Well it starts up with you wake up, Okay,
23:21
Speaker 2: how do I get out of bed and at least
23:24
Speaker 2: amount of pain? Then you go to okay, how do
23:27
Speaker 2: I do number one or number two and at least
23:30
Speaker 2: amount of pain?
23:31
Speaker 1: Okay?
23:33
Speaker 2: Then then it's okay. You have to remember your meds.
23:39
Speaker 2: And I've been taking the same mass for years HyET
23:41
Speaker 2: forever reason that time of the day I always forget.
23:45
Speaker 2: It's always hard to remember which meds to take. So
23:47
Speaker 2: I got some for the morning, some for the afternoon,
23:50
Speaker 2: and then some at night. It takes about an hour,
23:55
Speaker 2: and kind of groggy from my morning managed to kick in.
24:00
Speaker 2: I'm on im on my recliner and I'm sort of
24:05
Speaker 2: in between let's see, and then all of a sudden, bam,
24:10
Speaker 2: I'm lucid, and I'm that way for the next few hours.
24:14
Speaker 2: That's when that's when I'm trading. I'm looking at crypto,
24:19
Speaker 2: I'm looking at crypto based fox, I'm looking at it.
24:22
Speaker 2: Well here, Karon Hunter had me on her show back
24:25
Speaker 2: in April. I told her Ribbean is shit. I hope
24:28
Speaker 2: she listened to me, because she did, she would have
24:30
Speaker 2: more than she would have almost tripled her money. I
24:34
Speaker 2: think it was straightening her by nine dollars to share it.
24:36
Speaker 2: Then I think it's somewhere around twenty five twenty six now,
24:40
Speaker 2: So I so I look at the trends and then
24:44
Speaker 2: I told everyone, hey, hey, listen, if you want to
24:48
Speaker 2: trade five find other people who like to trade as well,
24:51
Speaker 2: because what ends up happening is that y'all former community.
24:55
Speaker 2: And I might be a car guy, you might be
24:59
Speaker 2: a I'm out of these guys. You may have them
25:02
Speaker 2: on up. That's a crypto guy. Anyway, We're all looking
25:05
Speaker 2: at different aspects of the market, and you may find
25:08
Speaker 2: something that I don't know about that makes money, and
25:11
Speaker 2: vice versa. So we have a meeting, we discuss all
25:14
Speaker 2: of that, right, and then I go about the business
25:17
Speaker 2: of making some money. Afterwards, the meds were off, the
25:23
Speaker 2: pain becomes sharp. I wait until about four or so
25:27
Speaker 2: to take my afternoon meds. Then the pain is really bad.
25:32
Speaker 2: I will hopefully make it to the pool swim stretch,
25:37
Speaker 2: and then by around eight nine o'clock I'm just on
25:41
Speaker 2: the floor waiting to take the afternoon meds that will
25:45
Speaker 2: put me to sleep maybe around midnight, and then I
25:48
Speaker 2: do it all over again. Wow.
25:50
Speaker 1: Oh, thank you for sharing that that story. That's an
25:54
Speaker 1: honest story. And I want you to stick around. And
25:58
Speaker 1: I don't want to get back to the financial investing
26:00
Speaker 1: because we only tip tip of the ice, creare. I
26:02
Speaker 1: want the people understand your value. And also you're in
26:05
Speaker 1: the healthcare field as well, correct Jackson.
26:08
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, psychiatry, childless and adult psychiatry.
26:13
Speaker 1: Cool. We want to talk about that a little bit.
26:14
Speaker 1: But more importantly, I just wanted to talk to my
26:16
Speaker 1: audience for a minute about not only fiscal responsibility but
26:21
Speaker 1: mental responsibility. Well, I look at my life, you know,
26:25
Speaker 1: it was really interesting, Jackson. I will start thinking about
26:28
Speaker 1: what I didn't do in my life. You know, that's
26:30
Speaker 1: a that's a that's a place man, where you can
26:33
Speaker 1: wallow and pity. And if I had done this, this
26:37
Speaker 1: could happened. If I'd done this, This could have happened
26:39
Speaker 1: if I'd have went over here, if I wouldn't, And
26:42
Speaker 1: we can never get into that point in our lives
26:45
Speaker 1: and regret what we've done. We should only focus on
26:49
Speaker 1: what we can do and plan a better life, not
26:52
Speaker 1: only for yourself but for your family. And that was
26:56
Speaker 1: one of the primary reasons Jackson. I wanted to bring
26:59
Speaker 1: you back on the show because I felt our interview
27:02
Speaker 1: was fantastic, but I really wanted people hear the sacrifices
27:07
Speaker 1: that your family makes due to this accident related injury
27:11
Speaker 1: that came into your life. You didn't plan on living
27:14
Speaker 1: a life of chronic painting. Like you said, you was
27:15
Speaker 1: bike riding, he was done the Peach Tree five k race,
27:20
Speaker 1: and so you was active. But you did not let
27:23
Speaker 1: a negative win in your life. And that's important and
27:28
Speaker 1: that's part of your motivation now. I would assume.
27:31
Speaker 2: Correct, yes, yes, and when and when you get I
27:37
Speaker 2: call it the dark and the light side of the forest. Okay,
27:41
Speaker 2: standing on that dark side, only focus on the things
27:44
Speaker 2: you can't No nothing but misery over there. When you
27:49
Speaker 2: make your life one hundred about what can I do
27:54
Speaker 2: to maximize my life in the three or four hours
27:57
Speaker 2: I have a day, You'll be You'll be shocked at
28:02
Speaker 2: just what your mind comes up with. If you don't
28:05
Speaker 2: have time to be us around or any of this
28:07
Speaker 2: other stuff. You got to get to get the business.
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Speaker 4: And that's how and that's how I focused myself.
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