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Empowering Students: The Role of Technology in Humanizing Education · The Wheelhouse

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  It's
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  part
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  two
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  of
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  our
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  conversation
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  with
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  Dr.
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  Janice
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  Gobert,
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  professor
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  of
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  Educational
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  Psychology
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  and
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  Learning
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  Services
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  at
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  Rutgers
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  University
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  and
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  the
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  lead
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  visionary
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  on
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  Inquiry
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  Intelligent
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  Tutoring
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  System,
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  a
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  virtual
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  learning
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  and
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  assessment
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  platform
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  for
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  science.
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  There's
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  so
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  much
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  to
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  talk
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  about.
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  The
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  future
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  of
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  education
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  depends
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  on
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  a
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  radical
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  humanization
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  of
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  schools.
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  Places
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  where
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  hope
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  is
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  cultivated
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  and
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  opportunities
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  are
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  opened
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  and
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  innovation
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  is
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  harnessed
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  to
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  serve
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  humanity.
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  Only
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  then
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  can
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  we
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  create
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  futures
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  worthy
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  of
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  each
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  student's
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  dreams.
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  We
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  begin
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  by
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  cultivating
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  hope.
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  We
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  ensure
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  possibilities
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  are
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  real
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  and
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  accessible.
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  We
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  design
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  futures
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  rooted
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  in
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  humanity.
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  The
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  future
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  is
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  already
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  here,
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  and
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  it
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  must
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  be
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  deeply
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  human
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  centered.
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  The
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  Wheelhouse
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  exists
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  to
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  create
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  an
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  inclusive
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  community
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  of
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  empowered
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  educators
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  who
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  believe
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  that
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  together
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  we
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  can
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  disrupt
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  the
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  transactional
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  nature
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  of
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  schooling
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  and
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  reimagine
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  what
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  it
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  means
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  to
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  lead,
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  learn,
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  and
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  belong.
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  We
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  envision
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  districts,
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  schools
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  and
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  classrooms
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  where
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  every
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  student
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  feels
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  confident,
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  capable,
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  optimistic,
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  well
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  supported,
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  and
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  emboldened
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  to
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  be
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  and
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  to
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  become
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  more
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  who
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  they're
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  meant
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  to
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  be.
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  Each
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  episode
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  of
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  the
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  Wheelhouse
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  explores
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  the
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  knowledge,
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  practices
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  and
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  stories
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  that
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  bring
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  this
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  vision
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  to
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  life.
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  Our
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  team,
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  Kathy
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  Mone,
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  Michael
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  Pipa
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  and
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  Dr.
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  Alicia
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  Monroe,
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  alongside
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  our
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  guests,
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  take
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  on
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  the
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  fundamental
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  challenge
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  of
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  realizing
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  what
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  we
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  most
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  want
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  every
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  student
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  to
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  experience
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  in
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  school.
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  Dignity,
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  agency
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  and
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  belonging.
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  A
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  future
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  ready
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  school
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  prepares
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  students
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  to
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  thrive
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  by
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  honoring
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  their
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  identities,
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  nurturing
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  their
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  creativity,
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  and
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  equipping
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  them
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  to
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  engage
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  with
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  a
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  changing
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  world
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  from
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  a
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  place
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  of
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  strength
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  and
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  purpose.
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  In
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  episode
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  three,
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  we
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  had
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  an
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  amazing
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  conversation
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  with
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  Dr.
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  Janice
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  Gobert.
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  And
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  like
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  all
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  of
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  our
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  episodes
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  this
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  season,
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  we
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  recorded
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  part
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  two
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  of
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  that
• 2:11
  conversation
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  for
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  the
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  Wheelhouse.
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  All
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  Hands
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  on
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  Deck,
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  our
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  after
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  show.
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  Today
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  we're
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  bringing
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  you
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  that
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  conversation
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  front
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  and
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  center
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  so
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  you
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  can
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  HEAR
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  More
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  from
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  Dr.
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  Gobert
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  and
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  you
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  can
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  get
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  an
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  idea
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  of
• 2:25
  what
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  we're
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  offering
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  in
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  the
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  Wheelhouse.
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  All
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  hands
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  on
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  deck.
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  Dr.
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  Janice
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  Gobert
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  is
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  a
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  cognitive
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  scientist
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  with
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  25
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  years
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  of
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  experience
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  and
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  she's
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  the
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  lead
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  visionary
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  on
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  INQ,
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  it's
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  inquiry
• 2:39
  intelligent
• 2:39
  Tutoring
• 2:40
  System,
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  a
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  virtual
• 2:42
  learning
• 2:42
  and
• 2:42
  assessment
• 2:43
  platform
• 2:43
  for
• 2:43
  science.
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  She's
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  a
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  full
• 2:45
  professor
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  of
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  educational
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  psychology
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  and
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  Learning
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  services
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  at
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  Rutgers
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  Graduate
• 2:49
  School
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  of
• 2:50
  Education.
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  She's
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  the
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  lead
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  inventor
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  on
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  three
• 2:52
  patents
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  with
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  Ink
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  Its
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  underlying
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  algorithm
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  and
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  methodology,
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  and
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  she
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  also
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  holds
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  three
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  other
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  patents
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  for
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  eye
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  tracking
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  technology.
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  She
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  received
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  an
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  Innovation
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  award
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  for
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  Ink
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  Its
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  from
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  her
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  alma
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  mater,
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  the
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  University
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  of
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  Toronto.
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  You're
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  listening
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  to
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  season
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  11,
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  episode
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  seven
• 3:11
  of
• 3:12
  the
• 3:12
  Wheelhouse.
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  Let's
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  dive
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  in.
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  Welcome
• 3:27
  to
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  the
• 3:27
  Wheelhouse.
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  All
• 3:28
  Hands
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  on
• 3:29
  Deck.
• 3:30
  The
• 3:30
  space
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  where
• 3:31
  we
• 3:31
  slow
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  down,
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  breathe
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  and
• 3:34
  look
• 3:34
  beneath
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  the
• 3:35
  surface
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  of
• 3:35
  the
• 3:35
  conversation.
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  In
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  this
• 3:37
  after
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  show,
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  we
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  ask
• 3:39
  not
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  Just
• 3:40
  what
• 3:40
  we
• 3:40
  heard,
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  but
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  what
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  it
• 3:42
  means
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  for
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  our
• 3:44
  students,
• 3:45
  our
• 3:45
  schools,
• 3:47
  and
• 3:47
  for
• 3:47
  us
• 3:47
  as
• 3:48
  educators
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  navigating
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  this
• 3:49
  work
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  of
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  humanizing
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  education.
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  I'm
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  super
• 3:58
  excited
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  to
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  continue
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  this
• 3:59
  conversation
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  around
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  AI
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  and
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  how
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  we
• 4:03
  can
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  actually
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  ethically
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  use
• 4:05
  AI
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  in
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  this
• 4:07
  realm
• 4:08
  of
• 4:08
  possibilities
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  as
• 4:09
  we
• 4:10
  think
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  about
• 4:10
  how
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  to
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  create
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  future
• 4:12
  ready
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  schools.
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  Innovation
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  rooted
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  in
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  humanity.
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  Welcome
• 4:16
  back,
• 4:16
  everybody.
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  Hi.
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  What
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  a
• 4:19
  great
• 4:19
  conversation,
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  Janice.
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  My
• 4:21
  goodness,
• 4:21
  it
• 4:21
  just
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  makes
• 4:22
  us
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  want
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  to
• 4:23
  continue
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  to
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  learn
• 4:25
  and
• 4:25
  dig
• 4:26
  in
• 4:26
  and
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  all
• 4:27
  of
• 4:27
  these
• 4:27
  pieces.
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  But
• 4:28
  I
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  really
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  am
• 4:29
  hopeful
• 4:30
  that
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  we
• 4:30
  can
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  go
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  even
• 4:31
  further
• 4:32
  into
• 4:32
  this
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  let
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  our
• 4:33
  hair
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  down
• 4:34
  conversation
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  of
• 4:35
  reality
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  versus
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  everything
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  you
• 4:38
  described.
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  You
• 4:39
  know,
• 4:39
  so
• 4:39
  how,
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  how
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  do
• 4:41
  we
• 4:41
  ensure
• 4:42
  that,
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  that
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  humanity.
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  Is
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  not
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  being
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  replaced?
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  I
• 4:51
  think
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  that
• 4:52
  goes
• 4:52
  to
• 4:52
  the
• 4:52
  ecosystem.
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  I've
• 4:54
  been
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  really,
• 4:54
  really
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  quiet
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  and
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  I've
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  been
• 4:56
  taking
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  it
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  all
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  in.
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  As
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  one
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  who
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  really
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  designs
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  ecosystems.
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  We
• 5:03
  have
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  to
• 5:03
  look
• 5:03
  at
• 5:03
  the
• 5:04
  human
• 5:04
  resource
• 5:05
  frame.
• 5:05
  And
• 5:05
  when
• 5:07
  Dr.
• 5:07
  Goldberg
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  said
• 5:09
  the
• 5:09
  human
• 5:10
  in
• 5:10
  the
• 5:10
  loop,
• 5:12
  that's
• 5:12
  pivotal.
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  That's
• 5:14
  what
• 5:14
  either
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  makes
• 5:15
  the
• 5:15
  system
• 5:15
  work.
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  Or
• 5:18
  the
• 5:18
  system
• 5:19
  fail.
• 5:20
  And
• 5:20
  our
• 5:20
  customers
• 5:21
  are
• 5:21
  our
• 5:21
  students,
• 5:22
  our
• 5:22
  scholars,
• 5:23
  those
• 5:23
  who
• 5:23
  we
• 5:24
  serve.
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  So
• 5:26
  as
• 5:27
  Dr.
• 5:27
  Gobert
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  was
• 5:28
  talking,
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  I
• 5:29
  was
• 5:29
  like,
• 5:30
  okay,
• 5:30
  so
• 5:31
  build
• 5:31
  social
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  capital,
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  EI
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  relationship
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  building,
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  capacity
• 5:36
  building
• 5:37
  for
• 5:37
  teachers
• 5:38
  where
• 5:38
  they
• 5:38
  feel
• 5:38
  secure
• 5:39
  enough
• 5:39
  to
• 5:39
  be
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  able
• 5:40
  to
• 5:40
  read
• 5:41
  the
• 5:41
  data,
• 5:42
  translate
• 5:43
  the
• 5:43
  data,
• 5:44
  accept
• 5:44
  that
• 5:44
  their
• 5:45
  practice
• 5:45
  may
• 5:45
  not
• 5:46
  be
• 5:47
  as
• 5:47
  optimum
• 5:48
  as
• 5:48
  they
• 5:49
  think
• 5:49
  they
• 5:49
  are.
• 5:49
  Self
• 5:50
  reflection,
• 5:51
  right?
• 5:51
  And
• 5:52
  then
• 5:52
  use
• 5:52
  that
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  to
• 5:53
  develop
• 5:53
  this
• 5:54
  rapport
• 5:54
  with
• 5:55
  Johnny,
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  right?
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  So
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  that
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  we
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  could
• 5:58
  cultivate
• 5:58
  hope,
• 5:58
  so
• 5:59
  Johnny
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  could
• 5:59
  see
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  that,
• 6:00
  man,
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  I
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  can
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  do
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  something
• 6:02
  great.
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  I
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  love
• 6:04
  a
• 6:04
  good
• 6:04
  system,
• 6:06
  right?
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  But
• 6:07
  it's
• 6:07
  how
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  do
• 6:08
  we
• 6:08
  build
• 6:08
  up
• 6:08
  the
• 6:09
  humans
• 6:09
  in
• 6:10
  the
• 6:10
  ecosystem
• 6:12
  to
• 6:12
  optimize
• 6:13
  AI
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  machine
• 6:14
  learning
• 6:15
  element?
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  I
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  could
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  go
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  on
• 6:16
  and
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  on.
• 6:17
  And
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  actually
• 6:19
  these
• 6:19
  are
• 6:19
  conversations
• 6:20
  that
• 6:20
  I'm
• 6:21
  engaged
• 6:21
  in.
• 6:21
  I'm
• 6:22
  like,
• 6:22
  I
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  think
• 6:23
  a
• 6:23
  good
• 6:23
  system
• 6:24
  is
• 6:24
  great.
• 6:26
  Right?
• 6:27
  But
• 6:27
  where
• 6:27
  is
• 6:27
  the
• 6:28
  accountability
• 6:29
  and
• 6:29
  responsibility
• 6:31
  of
• 6:31
  the
• 6:31
  human?
• 6:32
  And
• 6:32
  how
• 6:32
  do
• 6:32
  we
• 6:33
  meet
• 6:33
  halfway
• 6:34
  to
• 6:34
  optimize
• 6:35
  the
• 6:35
  learning
• 6:35
  and
• 6:36
  engagement
• 6:36
  experience
• 6:37
  for
• 6:37
  the
• 6:38
  students
• 6:38
  that
• 6:38
  we
• 6:39
  serve?
• 6:40
  You
• 6:41
  know,
• 6:41
  I
• 6:41
  think
• 6:41
  a
• 6:41
  key.
• 6:41
  You
• 6:42
  pointed
• 6:42
  out
• 6:43
  lots
• 6:43
  of
• 6:43
  things
• 6:45
  which
• 6:45
  are
• 6:45
  important
• 6:46
  to
• 6:46
  this.
• 6:46
  I
• 6:47
  think
• 6:48
  you've
• 6:49
  sort
• 6:49
  of
• 6:50
  elicited
• 6:50
  in
• 6:51
  me
• 6:51
  the
• 6:51
  notion
• 6:52
  of
• 6:52
  you
• 6:53
  have
• 6:53
  to
• 6:53
  design,
• 6:54
  co
• 6:54
  design
• 6:55
  with
• 6:55
  teachers
• 6:55
  and
• 6:55
  students
• 6:57
  and
• 6:58
  so
• 6:58
  many
• 6:59
  curricular
• 7:00
  platforms,
• 7:01
  technology
• 7:02
  platforms,
• 7:02
  et
• 7:03
  cetera,
• 7:04
  were
• 7:04
  designed
• 7:05
  and
• 7:05
  are
• 7:05
  designed,
• 7:06
  continue
• 7:06
  to
• 7:06
  be
• 7:07
  designed
• 7:07
  without
• 7:08
  those
• 7:09
  stakeholders
• 7:10
  in
• 7:10
  mind.
• 7:11
  And
• 7:11
  it's
• 7:11
  almost
• 7:11
  like
• 7:12
  they're
• 7:12
  building
• 7:13
  technology
• 7:13
  and
• 7:14
  building
• 7:14
  curricular
• 7:15
  curricula
• 7:16
  for
• 7:16
  the
• 7:17
  platonic
• 7:18
  ideal
• 7:18
  of
• 7:18
  a
• 7:18
  classroom.
• 7:19
  You
• 7:20
  know,
• 7:20
  sometimes
• 7:21
  I
• 7:21
  hear,
• 7:21
  and
• 7:21
  you
• 7:21
  know,
• 7:22
  I
• 7:22
  have
• 7:22
  to
• 7:22
  say,
• 7:22
  I
• 7:22
  mean
• 7:22
  I'm,
• 7:23
  I'm
• 7:23
  an
• 7:23
  academic,
• 7:24
  right?
• 7:24
  But
• 7:25
  sometimes
• 7:25
  I
• 7:25
  hear
• 7:25
  academics
• 7:26
  talk
• 7:26
  and
• 7:27
  I,
• 7:27
  and
• 7:27
  I
• 7:27
  Want
• 7:27
  to
• 7:27
  say
• 7:27
  to
• 7:28
  them,
• 7:28
  have
• 7:28
  you
• 7:28
  ever
• 7:28
  been
• 7:29
  in
• 7:29
  a
• 7:29
  classroom?
• 7:30
  There
• 7:31
  it
• 7:31
  is.
• 7:32
  There
• 7:32
  it
• 7:32
  is.
• 7:33
  We've
• 7:33
  asked
• 7:34
  that
• 7:34
  question
• 7:34
  before.
• 7:36
  When's
• 7:36
  the
• 7:36
  last
• 7:37
  time
• 7:37
  you
• 7:37
  were
• 7:37
  actually
• 7:38
  in
• 7:38
  the
• 7:38
  classroom?
• 7:39
  Yes,
• 7:40
  yes.
• 7:41
  You
• 7:41
  know,
• 7:41
  because
• 7:42
  they're
• 7:42
  thinking
• 7:43
  about
• 7:43
  the
• 7:44
  student
• 7:44
  who
• 7:44
  comes
• 7:45
  to
• 7:45
  school,
• 7:45
  who's
• 7:46
  got
• 7:46
  a
• 7:46
  lot
• 7:46
  of
• 7:47
  prior
• 7:47
  knowledge,
• 7:47
  who
• 7:48
  has
• 7:48
  a
• 7:48
  lot
• 7:48
  of
• 7:48
  social
• 7:49
  capital
• 7:49
  at
• 7:50
  home,
• 7:50
  who
• 7:50
  doesn't
• 7:51
  come
• 7:51
  to
• 7:51
  school
• 7:52
  hungry,
• 7:52
  who
• 7:53
  has
• 7:53
  all
• 7:53
  the
• 7:54
  private
• 7:54
  tutoring
• 7:55
  and
• 7:55
  everything
• 7:55
  else.
• 7:56
  That
• 7:56
  is
• 7:56
  a
• 7:57
  fundamentally
• 7:57
  different
• 7:58
  student
• 7:59
  than
• 7:59
  the
• 7:59
  student
• 8:00
  who
• 8:00
  doesn't
• 8:01
  know
• 8:01
  where
• 8:01
  their
• 8:01
  next
• 8:02
  meal
• 8:02
  is
• 8:02
  coming
• 8:03
  from.
• 8:03
  Right.
• 8:03
  So
• 8:04
  one
• 8:04
  of
• 8:04
  the
• 8:04
  things
• 8:04
  that
• 8:05
  happened
• 8:05
  during
• 8:05
  COVID
• 8:06
  as
• 8:07
  you
• 8:07
  all
• 8:07
  know
• 8:09
  probably
• 8:09
  better
• 8:09
  than
• 8:10
  anybody,
• 8:11
  that
• 8:11
  students,
• 8:11
  many
• 8:12
  students
• 8:12
  who
• 8:12
  were
• 8:13
  having
• 8:13
  their
• 8:13
  breakfast
• 8:13
  and
• 8:14
  lunch
• 8:14
  at
• 8:14
  school
• 8:16
  weren't
• 8:16
  being
• 8:16
  fed.
• 8:18
  So,
• 8:18
  you
• 8:18
  know,
• 8:18
  in
• 8:18
  some
• 8:19
  communities.
• 8:21
  The
• 8:21
  kids
• 8:22
  were
• 8:22
  going
• 8:22
  to
• 8:22
  the
• 8:22
  library
• 8:23
  and
• 8:23
  getting
• 8:23
  a,
• 8:24
  getting
• 8:24
  a
• 8:24
  free
• 8:24
  lunch.
• 8:25
  For
• 8:25
  example,
• 8:25
  I
• 8:25
  live
• 8:25
  in
• 8:26
  Montclair,
• 8:26
  New
• 8:26
  Jersey.
• 8:27
  It's
• 8:27
  a,
• 8:27
  it's
• 8:28
  a
• 8:28
  wonderful
• 8:28
  community.
• 8:29
  It's
• 8:29
  a
• 8:29
  very
• 8:30
  charitable
• 8:30
  community.
• 8:32
  And
• 8:32
  we
• 8:32
  had,
• 8:33
  and
• 8:33
  we
• 8:33
  have
• 8:33
  this,
• 8:34
  I
• 8:34
  think,
• 8:34
  still
• 8:34
  in
• 8:35
  the
• 8:35
  summer,
• 8:35
  where
• 8:35
  kids
• 8:36
  can
• 8:36
  come
• 8:36
  ready,
• 8:38
  have
• 8:38
  a
• 8:38
  free
• 8:38
  lunch,
• 8:40
  local
• 8:40
  vendors
• 8:41
  are
• 8:41
  supplying
• 8:42
  the
• 8:42
  meals.
• 8:42
  And
• 8:43
  this
• 8:43
  happened
• 8:43
  during,
• 8:44
  during
• 8:45
  COVID
• 8:45
  to
• 8:45
  my
• 8:46
  knowledge
• 8:46
  as
• 8:46
  well.
• 8:47
  And
• 8:47
  some
• 8:49
  companies
• 8:50
  were
• 8:50
  also
• 8:50
  funding,
• 8:51
  you
• 8:51
  know,
• 8:51
  if
• 8:52
  the,
• 8:52
  if
• 8:52
  the
• 8:52
  parents,
• 8:53
  the
• 8:54
  parents
• 8:54
  could
• 8:54
  drive
• 8:54
  by
• 8:55
  and
• 8:55
  pick
• 8:55
  up
• 8:55
  the
• 8:55
  lunch
• 8:56
  for
• 8:56
  the
• 8:56
  student.
• 8:57
  And
• 8:58
  you
• 8:58
  know,
• 8:58
  this
• 8:58
  is,
• 8:59
  this
• 8:59
  is
• 9:00
  really
• 9:00
  important
• 9:00
  too.
• 9:01
  Right.
• 9:01
  Because
• 9:02
  all
• 9:02
  learners
• 9:02
  don't
• 9:03
  come
• 9:03
  to
• 9:03
  us
• 9:04
  with
• 9:04
  the
• 9:04
  same
• 9:04
  social
• 9:05
  capital.
• 9:06
  And
• 9:06
  that's
• 9:07
  really,
• 9:08
  I
• 9:08
  think,
• 9:09
  you
• 9:09
  know,
• 9:10
  in
• 9:10
  some
• 9:10
  cases,
• 9:11
  the
• 9:11
  best
• 9:11
  predictor,
• 9:12
  which
• 9:12
  is
• 9:13
  that's
• 9:13
  not
• 9:13
  the
• 9:14
  way
• 9:14
  it
• 9:14
  should
• 9:14
  be.
• 9:15
  Right.
• 9:15
  That's
• 9:16
  not
• 9:16
  the
• 9:16
  way
• 9:16
  it
• 9:16
  should
• 9:16
  be.
• 9:17
  So
• 9:18
  if
• 9:18
  you
• 9:18
  have,
• 9:19
  if
• 9:20
  you
• 9:20
  have
• 9:20
  a
• 9:20
  system
• 9:20
  that's
• 9:21
  more
• 9:21
  oriented
• 9:22
  around
• 9:22
  humanity
• 9:23
  and
• 9:23
  recognizing
• 9:25
  that,
• 9:25
  that
• 9:26
  kids
• 9:26
  are
• 9:26
  bringing
• 9:27
  different
• 9:27
  things
• 9:28
  to
• 9:28
  the
• 9:28
  table
• 9:29
  and
• 9:30
  still
• 9:30
  able
• 9:31
  to
• 9:31
  assess
• 9:32
  where
• 9:32
  they're
• 9:32
  strong
• 9:33
  and
• 9:33
  tell
• 9:33
  them
• 9:34
  where
• 9:34
  they
• 9:34
  might
• 9:35
  not
• 9:35
  be
• 9:35
  getting
• 9:35
  that
• 9:36
  motivation
• 9:36
  from
• 9:37
  home,
• 9:37
  they
• 9:37
  might
• 9:38
  not
• 9:38
  be
• 9:38
  getting
• 9:38
  that,
• 9:39
  that
• 9:39
  one
• 9:39
  on
• 9:40
  one
• 9:40
  at
• 9:40
  home
• 9:41
  and
• 9:41
  say,
• 9:42
  hey,
• 9:42
  you
• 9:42
  did
• 9:42
  a
• 9:42
  really
• 9:43
  good
• 9:43
  job
• 9:43
  at
• 9:43
  this.
• 9:44
  Sometimes
• 9:44
  they're
• 9:45
  practically
• 9:45
  falling
• 9:45
  off
• 9:46
  their
• 9:46
  chair.
• 9:46
  They
• 9:46
  can't
• 9:47
  believe
• 9:47
  it.
• 9:47
  They're
• 9:48
  like,
• 9:48
  you
• 9:48
  know,
• 9:48
  in
• 9:48
  our
• 9:49
  experience
• 9:49
  of
• 9:50
  multiple
• 9:50
  years
• 9:51
  working
• 9:51
  with
• 9:51
  kids
• 9:52
  one
• 9:52
  on
• 9:52
  one,
• 9:53
  sometimes
• 9:53
  they'd
• 9:54
  even
• 9:54
  want
• 9:54
  to
• 9:54
  skip
• 9:55
  their
• 9:55
  basketball
• 9:55
  game,
• 9:56
  come
• 9:56
  back
• 9:56
  to
• 9:57
  our
• 9:57
  lab,
• 9:58
  be
• 9:58
  like,
• 9:58
  hey,
• 9:58
  I
• 9:58
  thought
• 9:58
  you
• 9:59
  had
• 9:59
  a
• 9:59
  game.
• 9:59
  They're
• 9:59
  like,
• 9:59
  oh,
• 10:00
  no,
• 10:00
  we
• 10:00
  wanted
• 10:01
  to
• 10:01
  come,
• 10:01
  we
• 10:01
  wanted
• 10:02
  to
• 10:02
  come
• 10:02
  and,
• 10:02
  you.
• 10:03
  Know,
• 10:03
  and
• 10:03
  do
• 10:04
  this
• 10:04
  work,
• 10:05
  relationships.
• 10:06
  Wow.
• 10:07
  Comes
• 10:07
  down
• 10:07
  to,
• 10:08
  you
• 10:08
  know,
• 10:08
  and,
• 10:09
  and
• 10:09
  how
• 10:09
  do
• 10:10
  we
• 10:10
  ensure
• 10:10
  that
• 10:11
  there's
• 10:11
  a,
• 10:12
  a
• 10:12
  balance
• 10:13
  of
• 10:14
  not
• 10:15
  putting
• 10:15
  adult
• 10:16
  needs
• 10:17
  over
• 10:17
  student
• 10:18
  needs,
• 10:18
  you
• 10:18
  know,
• 10:19
  so
• 10:19
  all
• 10:19
  of
• 10:19
  these
• 10:19
  things
• 10:20
  that
• 10:20
  are
• 10:20
  happening
• 10:21
  and
• 10:21
  ensuring
• 10:21
  that
• 10:22
  we're
• 10:22
  supporting
• 10:23
  and
• 10:23
  we're
• 10:23
  not
• 10:23
  taking
• 10:23
  those.
• 10:24
  Those
• 10:24
  adults
• 10:25
  and
• 10:25
  the
• 10:25
  supports
• 10:26
  that
• 10:26
  are
• 10:26
  ne.
• 10:29
  Too
• 10:29
  many
• 10:29
  times,
• 10:30
  it's.
• 10:32
  Well,
• 10:32
  the
• 10:32
  adults
• 10:33
  can't
• 10:34
  do.
• 10:34
  Or
• 10:34
  they.
• 10:35
  We
• 10:35
  put
• 10:35
  those
• 10:37
  over
• 10:38
  the
• 10:38
  needs
• 10:38
  of
• 10:39
  students
• 10:39
  who
• 10:39
  have
• 10:39
  no
• 10:40
  control
• 10:41
  over
• 10:41
  the
• 10:41
  environments
• 10:42
  in
• 10:42
  which
• 10:43
  they're
• 10:43
  living.
• 10:45
  They
• 10:45
  don't
• 10:46
  choose
• 10:46
  that.
• 10:46
  They
• 10:46
  don't
• 10:46
  decide
• 10:47
  that.
• 10:48
  You
• 10:48
  know,
• 10:48
  so
• 10:49
  when
• 10:49
  we
• 10:49
  make
• 10:49
  decisions,
• 10:51
  it's
• 10:51
  about
• 10:52
  the
• 10:52
  humanity.
• 10:53
  It's
• 10:53
  not
• 10:54
  about,
• 10:55
  well,
• 10:55
  too
• 10:55
  bad.
• 10:56
  You
• 10:56
  know,
• 10:56
  they
• 10:57
  would
• 10:57
  if
• 10:57
  they
• 10:57
  could,
• 10:57
  but
• 10:58
  they
• 10:58
  can't,
• 10:58
  so
• 10:59
  they
• 10:59
  won't.
• 10:59
  It's
• 10:59
  on
• 10:59
  them,
• 11:00
  you
• 11:01
  know,
• 11:01
  and
• 11:01
  that's.
• 11:01
  That's
• 11:02
  my.
• 11:03
  That
• 11:03
  greater
• 11:04
  fear
• 11:04
  that,
• 11:05
  honestly
• 11:05
  I
• 11:05
  have,
• 11:06
  that
• 11:06
  then
• 11:06
  we're
• 11:07
  just
• 11:07
  gonna
• 11:07
  put
• 11:08
  tools,
• 11:09
  we're
• 11:10
  gonna
• 11:10
  supplant,
• 11:11
  and
• 11:12
  then
• 11:12
  more
• 11:12
  and
• 11:12
  more
• 11:13
  students
• 11:13
  are
• 11:13
  gonna
• 11:14
  fall,
• 11:15
  and
• 11:15
  those
• 11:15
  that
• 11:15
  are
• 11:16
  the
• 11:16
  most
• 11:17
  tend
• 11:17
  to
• 11:17
  be
• 11:17
  the
• 11:17
  most
• 11:17
  vulnerable.
• 11:19
  We're
• 11:20
  talking
• 11:20
  about
• 11:20
  ethics
• 11:21
  here.
• 11:21
  We're
• 11:22
  talking
• 11:22
  about
• 11:22
  ethics,
• 11:23
  and
• 11:23
  we
• 11:24
  can
• 11:24
  talk
• 11:24
  about
• 11:24
  ethics
• 11:24
  with
• 11:25
  or
• 11:25
  without
• 11:25
  technology,
• 11:26
  because
• 11:26
  those
• 11:27
  same
• 11:27
  teachers
• 11:27
  are
• 11:28
  just
• 11:28
  as
• 11:28
  unethical.
• 11:29
  Yes.
• 11:30
  Whether
• 11:30
  we
• 11:31
  put
• 11:32
  a
• 11:32
  device
• 11:33
  or
• 11:34
  a
• 11:34
  platform
• 11:35
  in
• 11:35
  their
• 11:35
  hands
• 11:36
  or
• 11:36
  not.
• 11:37
  Right.
• 11:38
  It's
• 11:38
  about
• 11:39
  the
• 11:39
  ethics.
• 11:39
  As
• 11:40
  I
• 11:40
  was
• 11:40
  listening
• 11:42
  to.
• 11:42
  Janice,
• 11:43
  I
• 11:43
  love
• 11:43
  hearing
• 11:44
  you
• 11:44
  talk
• 11:44
  about
• 11:44
  this
• 11:45
  topic.
• 11:46
  I
• 11:46
  love
• 11:46
  hearing
• 11:47
  what
• 11:47
  you're
• 11:47
  doing.
• 11:48
  And
• 11:50
  what
• 11:50
  I
• 11:50
  love
• 11:50
  about
• 11:51
  it
• 11:51
  is
• 11:51
  a
• 11:51
  first.
• 11:51
  You
• 11:52
  make
• 11:52
  it
• 11:52
  sound
• 11:52
  really
• 11:53
  easy
• 11:53
  to
• 11:54
  understand.
• 11:54
  So.
• 11:57
  You
• 11:57
  know
• 11:57
  your
• 11:57
  stuff.
• 11:58
  Right.
• 11:59
  But
• 12:00
  as
• 12:00
  you
• 12:00
  think
• 12:01
  about,
• 12:01
  you
• 12:02
  have
• 12:02
  done
• 12:02
  all
• 12:02
  of
• 12:02
  this
• 12:02
  work
• 12:03
  with
• 12:03
  students
• 12:04
  and
• 12:04
  with
• 12:05
  teachers
• 12:05
  and
• 12:06
  with
• 12:06
  an
• 12:07
  equity
• 12:07
  lens.
• 12:09
  It's
• 12:09
  obvious
• 12:09
  in
• 12:09
  listening
• 12:10
  to
• 12:10
  you
• 12:10
  talk,
• 12:11
  right.
• 12:11
  That
• 12:12
  that's
• 12:12
  where
• 12:13
  you
• 12:13
  are.
• 12:15
  And
• 12:15
  yet
• 12:16
  so
• 12:16
  many
• 12:17
  of
• 12:17
  our
• 12:17
  teachers.
• 12:19
  I'm
• 12:20
  working
• 12:20
  with
• 12:20
  a
• 12:20
  couple
• 12:20
  of
• 12:20
  districts
• 12:21
  now,
• 12:21
  and
• 12:21
  they're
• 12:22
  still
• 12:22
  fighting
• 12:22
  over
• 12:22
  cell
• 12:23
  phones.
• 12:23
  Right.
• 12:24
  I'm
• 12:24
  like,
• 12:25
  oh,
• 12:25
  my
• 12:25
  gosh,
• 12:25
  we're
• 12:26
  so
• 12:26
  far
• 12:26
  away.
• 12:27
  Right?
• 12:27
  So,
• 12:28
  I
• 12:28
  mean,
• 12:29
  if
• 12:30
  we're
• 12:30
  still
• 12:30
  struggling
• 12:30
  with
• 12:31
  how
• 12:32
  do
• 12:32
  we
• 12:32
  help
• 12:32
  kids
• 12:32
  ethically
• 12:33
  use
• 12:33
  a
• 12:33
  cell
• 12:33
  phone
• 12:34
  in
• 12:34
  class?
• 12:35
  Really?
• 12:35
  Right.
• 12:36
  And
• 12:36
  you
• 12:36
  were
• 12:36
  spending
• 12:37
  millions
• 12:37
  of
• 12:37
  dollars
• 12:38
  buying
• 12:38
  plastic
• 12:38
  bags
• 12:39
  to
• 12:39
  put
• 12:39
  them
• 12:39
  in
• 12:40
  so
• 12:40
  that
• 12:41
  we
• 12:41
  restricted
• 12:42
  children
• 12:43
  from
• 12:44
  using
• 12:45
  technology
• 12:45
  to
• 12:46
  learn.
• 12:48
  And
• 12:48
  you
• 12:49
  think
• 12:49
  about.
• 12:51
  How.
• 12:51
  What
• 12:52
  you're
• 12:52
  doing
• 12:53
  and
• 12:53
  you're
• 12:54
  helping
• 12:54
  create
• 12:54
  these
• 12:55
  ethical
• 12:56
  ecosystems
• 12:57
  where
• 12:57
  teachers
• 12:57
  with
• 12:57
  ethics
• 12:58
  themselves
• 12:59
  have
• 12:59
  to
• 13:00
  figure
• 13:00
  out
• 13:00
  how
• 13:00
  to
• 13:00
  use
• 13:01
  these
• 13:01
  amazing
• 13:02
  tools
• 13:02
  that
• 13:03
  are
• 13:03
  created.
• 13:03
  And
• 13:03
  they
• 13:03
  also
• 13:04
  have
• 13:04
  to
• 13:04
  figure
• 13:04
  out
• 13:04
  what's
• 13:04
  a
• 13:05
  good
• 13:05
  tool
• 13:05
  and
• 13:05
  what
• 13:05
  isn't
• 13:05
  a
• 13:05
  good
• 13:06
  tool,
• 13:06
  because
• 13:06
  there
• 13:07
  are
• 13:07
  lots
• 13:07
  of
• 13:07
  tools,
• 13:07
  as
• 13:08
  you
• 13:08
  talked
• 13:08
  about
• 13:09
  this
• 13:09
  unsupervised.
• 13:10
  These
• 13:10
  unsupervised
• 13:11
  algorithms.
• 13:12
  I
• 13:12
  mean,
• 13:12
  those
• 13:12
  are
• 13:12
  dangerous.
• 13:13
  Well,
• 13:14
  we've
• 13:14
  been
• 13:14
  in
• 13:14
  all
• 13:14
  50
• 13:15
  states.
• 13:15
  Our
• 13:16
  platform
• 13:16
  is
• 13:16
  actually
• 13:17
  used.
• 13:17
  It
• 13:18
  has
• 13:18
  been
• 13:18
  used
• 13:18
  in
• 13:18
  94
• 13:19
  countries
• 13:20
  and
• 13:20
  in
• 13:20
  all
• 13:20
  50
• 13:21
  states.
• 13:21
  So
• 13:21
  we
• 13:22
  have
• 13:22
  the
• 13:22
  full
• 13:23
  kind
• 13:23
  of
• 13:24
  gamut.
• 13:24
  You
• 13:25
  can't
• 13:25
  design
• 13:25
  for
• 13:26
  the
• 13:26
  platonic
• 13:26
  ideal,
• 13:27
  right?
• 13:27
  You
• 13:28
  have
• 13:28
  to
• 13:28
  design
• 13:29
  for
• 13:29
  the
• 13:29
  kids
• 13:30
  who
• 13:30
  need
• 13:30
  it
• 13:30
  most.
• 13:31
  So
• 13:32
  little
• 13:32
  known
• 13:33
  fact,
• 13:33
  I
• 13:33
  was
• 13:33
  also
• 13:34
  trained
• 13:34
  as
• 13:34
  a
• 13:34
  school
• 13:35
  psychologist
• 13:35
  and
• 13:36
  worked
• 13:36
  for
• 13:36
  over
• 13:37
  a
• 13:37
  year
• 13:38
  in
• 13:38
  a,
• 13:38
  in
• 13:38
  a
• 13:39
  setting
• 13:40
  where
• 13:40
  kids
• 13:41
  were
• 13:41
  not
• 13:42
  in
• 13:42
  resource
• 13:42
  classrooms,
• 13:43
  they
• 13:43
  were
• 13:43
  actually
• 13:44
  separate,
• 13:44
  they
• 13:44
  weren't
• 13:45
  even
• 13:45
  mainstreamed
• 13:46
  and
• 13:46
  working
• 13:47
  in
• 13:47
  assessment.
• 13:48
  So
• 13:48
  this
• 13:48
  is
• 13:48
  kind
• 13:48
  of
• 13:49
  deep
• 13:49
  to
• 13:49
  my
• 13:49
  core,
• 13:50
  right?
• 13:50
  Understanding
• 13:50
  the
• 13:51
  needs
• 13:51
  of
• 13:51
  these
• 13:51
  different
• 13:52
  learners.
• 13:52
  But
• 13:53
  you
• 13:53
  raise
• 13:53
  a
• 13:53
  good
• 13:53
  point
• 13:54
  because
• 13:54
  if
• 13:55
  teachers
• 13:55
  are
• 13:56
  working
• 13:56
  in,
• 13:57
  in
• 13:58
  schools,
• 13:58
  which
• 13:59
  many,
• 13:59
  many
• 13:59
  are,
• 14:00
  that
• 14:01
  are
• 14:01
  underserved
• 14:03
  in
• 14:03
  and
• 14:04
  working
• 14:04
  with
• 14:04
  populations
• 14:05
  where
• 14:05
  the
• 14:05
  kids
• 14:06
  are
• 14:06
  just
• 14:06
  dealing
• 14:07
  with
• 14:07
  a
• 14:07
  whole
• 14:07
  swath
• 14:08
  of
• 14:08
  issues,
• 14:09
  the
• 14:09
  tools
• 14:10
  that
• 14:10
  they
• 14:10
  need
• 14:11
  are
• 14:11
  potentially
• 14:12
  different
• 14:12
  tools,
• 14:13
  not
• 14:13
  entirely
• 14:14
  different
• 14:14
  tools,
• 14:15
  but
• 14:16
  you
• 14:16
  know,
• 14:16
  they
• 14:16
  need
• 14:17
  to
• 14:17
  be
• 14:17
  able
• 14:18
  to
• 14:19
  get
• 14:19
  the
• 14:19
  information.
• 14:21
  About
• 14:22
  an
• 14:22
  individual
• 14:23
  student
• 14:24
  in
• 14:24
  order
• 14:24
  to
• 14:25
  best
• 14:25
  support
• 14:25
  that
• 14:26
  student.
• 14:26
  And
• 14:26
  if
• 14:27
  you're
• 14:27
  only
• 14:27
  designing
• 14:28
  a
• 14:28
  student
• 14:28
  for
• 14:29
  the
• 14:29
  quote
• 14:30
  unquote
• 14:30
  high
• 14:30
  flyers,
• 14:31
  it's
• 14:32
  not
• 14:32
  going
• 14:32
  to
• 14:32
  capture
• 14:34
  what,
• 14:34
  you
• 14:35
  know,
• 14:35
  a
• 14:35
  student
• 14:35
  might
• 14:36
  need
• 14:37
  who
• 14:37
  comes
• 14:37
  from
• 14:38
  a
• 14:38
  very
• 14:38
  different
• 14:38
  background
• 14:39
  with
• 14:39
  a
• 14:39
  lower
• 14:39
  prior
• 14:40
  knowledge,
• 14:40
  lower
• 14:41
  social
• 14:41
  capital,
• 14:41
  etc.
• 14:43
  So
• 14:43
  that's
• 14:43
  why,
• 14:44
  you
• 14:44
  know,
• 14:45
  you
• 14:45
  build
• 14:45
  your
• 14:45
  AI
• 14:46
  on
• 14:46
  a
• 14:47
  diverse,
• 14:48
  diverse
• 14:49
  set
• 14:49
  of
• 14:49
  learners
• 14:49
  and
• 14:50
  you,
• 14:50
  you
• 14:50
  cross
• 14:51
  validate
• 14:52
  using
• 14:52
  a
• 14:53
  held
• 14:53
  out
• 14:53
  test
• 14:53
  set
• 14:54
  and
• 14:55
  you
• 14:55
  make
• 14:55
  sure
• 14:56
  that
• 14:56
  you're
• 14:56
  doing
• 14:56
  this
• 14:57
  iteratively,
• 14:57
  that
• 14:58
  your,
• 14:58
  your
• 14:58
  algorithms
• 14:59
  are
• 14:59
  not
• 15:00
  being
• 15:00
  biased
• 15:01
  towards
• 15:01
  certain
• 15:02
  learners.
• 15:02
  Right?
• 15:03
  That's
• 15:03
  really,
• 15:04
  I
• 15:04
  think
• 15:05
  that's
• 15:05
  really
• 15:05
  the,
• 15:06
  the
• 15:07
  way
• 15:07
  in
• 15:07
  which
• 15:07
  we
• 15:07
  can
• 15:09
  try
• 15:09
  to
• 15:09
  mitigate
• 15:10
  bias.
• 15:11
  I
• 15:11
  don't
• 15:11
  think
• 15:11
  anybody
• 15:12
  can
• 15:12
  say
• 15:12
  for
• 15:13
  certain
• 15:13
  that
• 15:14
  their
• 15:14
  algorithms
• 15:15
  are,
• 15:15
  are
• 15:15
  completely
• 15:16
  unbiased.
• 15:17
  I
• 15:17
  believe
• 15:18
  that
• 15:18
  mine
• 15:18
  are.
• 15:19
  However,
• 15:19
  you
• 15:20
  know,
• 15:20
  if
• 15:20
  you
• 15:20
  said,
• 15:20
  are
• 15:21
  you
• 15:21
  100%
• 15:22
  sure?
• 15:22
  I
• 15:22
  don't
• 15:22
  know
• 15:22
  that
• 15:23
  I,
• 15:23
  we
• 15:23
  can
• 15:23
  be
• 15:24
  100%
• 15:24
  sure.
• 15:25
  Um,
• 15:26
  but
• 15:26
  we
• 15:26
  have
• 15:26
  certainly
• 15:27
  done
• 15:27
  our
• 15:27
  best
• 15:28
  to
• 15:28
  do
• 15:28
  so,
• 15:29
  so
• 15:30
  that
• 15:30
  those
• 15:30
  teachers,
• 15:31
  as
• 15:31
  you
• 15:31
  say,
• 15:32
  who
• 15:32
  are
• 15:33
  operating
• 15:34
  with
• 15:34
  so
• 15:34
  many
• 15:35
  more,
• 15:36
  so
• 15:36
  many
• 15:37
  more
• 15:38
  hurdles,
• 15:40
  have
• 15:40
  what
• 15:40
  they
• 15:41
  need
• 15:41
  to
• 15:42
  support
• 15:42
  those
• 15:42
  learners,
• 15:43
  right?
• 15:43
  Like
• 15:43
  the
• 15:43
  co,
• 15:44
  co
• 15:44
  teacher
• 15:44
  functionality.
• 15:45
  That's
• 15:46
  fantastic.
• 15:46
  Assuming
• 15:47
  they
• 15:47
  have
• 15:47
  a
• 15:47
  co
• 15:48
  teacher,
• 15:48
  right?
• 15:49
  If
• 15:50
  they
• 15:50
  have
• 15:50
  a
• 15:50
  co
• 15:50
  teacher,
• 15:51
  they
• 15:51
  have
• 15:51
  the
• 15:52
  co
• 15:52
  teacher
• 15:52
  functionality,
• 15:53
  right?
• 15:54
  To
• 15:55
  do
• 15:55
  differentiated
• 15:56
  instruction.
• 15:57
  So
• 15:57
  if
• 15:57
  you
• 15:57
  have
• 15:57
  a
• 15:58
  class
• 15:58
  of
• 15:58
  50,
• 15:58
  and
• 15:58
  let's
• 15:59
  face
• 15:59
  it,
• 15:59
  in
• 16:00
  the
• 16:00
  United
• 16:00
  States
• 16:00
  some
• 16:01
  of
• 16:01
  the
• 16:01
  ratios
• 16:02
  are
• 16:02
  really
• 16:03
  problematic.
• 16:04
  But
• 16:05
  you,
• 16:06
  you
• 16:06
  have
• 16:06
  the
• 16:06
  technology
• 16:07
  that's
• 16:07
  giving
• 16:08
  you
• 16:08
  the
• 16:08
  data,
• 16:09
  you
• 16:09
  can
• 16:09
  see.
• 16:10
  And,
• 16:10
  and
• 16:10
  during
• 16:11
  COVID
• 16:11
  teachers
• 16:12
  used
• 16:12
  our
• 16:12
  stuff
• 16:13
  in
• 16:13
  such
• 16:13
  creative
• 16:13
  ways,
• 16:14
  they
• 16:14
  would
• 16:14
  literally
• 16:14
  put
• 16:15
  kids
• 16:15
  in
• 16:15
  breakout
• 16:16
  rooms
• 16:16
  and
• 16:16
  say,
• 16:17
  okay,
• 16:17
  I
• 16:17
  know
• 16:18
  this,
• 16:18
  these
• 16:19
  kids
• 16:19
  are
• 16:19
  having
• 16:20
  trouble
• 16:20
  forming
• 16:20
  a
• 16:21
  testable
• 16:21
  question.
• 16:21
  I'm
• 16:22
  going
• 16:22
  to
• 16:22
  put
• 16:22
  them
• 16:22
  in
• 16:22
  this
• 16:23
  breakout
• 16:23
  group.
• 16:24
  And
• 16:25
  these
• 16:25
  kids
• 16:26
  are
• 16:26
  having
• 16:26
  trouble
• 16:27
  collecting
• 16:28
  data
• 16:28
  that's,
• 16:29
  you
• 16:29
  know,
• 16:29
  controlled
• 16:30
  data.
• 16:30
  I'm
• 16:30
  going
• 16:31
  to
• 16:31
  put
• 16:31
  them
• 16:31
  in
• 16:31
  this
• 16:31
  breakout
• 16:32
  room.
• 16:32
  And
• 16:33
  we
• 16:33
  didn't
• 16:33
  come
• 16:33
  up
• 16:33
  with
• 16:34
  this
• 16:34
  idea.
• 16:34
  Teachers
• 16:35
  came
• 16:35
  up
• 16:35
  with
• 16:35
  this
• 16:35
  idea
• 16:36
  and
• 16:36
  then
• 16:37
  they
• 16:37
  were
• 16:37
  going
• 16:38
  from
• 16:38
  breakout
• 16:39
  room
• 16:39
  to
• 16:39
  breakout
• 16:40
  room,
• 16:40
  helping
• 16:40
  the
• 16:41
  kids
• 16:41
  and
• 16:41
  also
• 16:42
  moving
• 16:42
  kids.
• 16:43
  So
• 16:43
  like,
• 16:43
  hey,
• 16:44
  now
• 16:44
  you
• 16:44
  really
• 16:45
  know,
• 16:45
  figured
• 16:46
  out
• 16:46
  how
• 16:46
  to
• 16:46
  do
• 16:46
  this.
• 16:47
  Teach
• 16:47
  the
• 16:47
  kids
• 16:48
  in
• 16:48
  your
• 16:48
  group,
• 16:49
  tell
• 16:49
  them
• 16:49
  how
• 16:50
  you,
• 16:50
  how
• 16:50
  you
• 16:50
  do
• 16:51
  this,
• 16:51
  tell
• 16:51
  them
• 16:51
  how
• 16:52
  to
• 16:52
  do
• 16:52
  it
• 16:52
  and
• 16:52
  execute
• 16:53
  it
• 16:53
  in,
• 16:53
  in
• 16:54
  the
• 16:54
  way
• 16:54
  that
• 16:54
  you
• 16:54
  need.
• 16:54
  They
• 16:55
  need
• 16:55
  to.
• 16:55
  Right.
• 16:56
  So
• 16:56
  teachers
• 16:57
  were
• 16:57
  using
• 16:57
  the
• 16:58
  technology
• 16:58
  in
• 16:59
  such
• 16:59
  creative
• 17:00
  ways
• 17:00
  and
• 17:01
  we
• 17:01
  would
• 17:01
  not
• 17:01
  have
• 17:02
  come
• 17:02
  up
• 17:02
  with
• 17:02
  that
• 17:02
  idea.
• 17:03
  I
• 17:03
  don't
• 17:03
  think
• 17:03
  like
• 17:03
  they,
• 17:04
  you
• 17:04
  know,
• 17:04
  you
• 17:05
  have
• 17:05
  to
• 17:05
  leverage
• 17:05
  what
• 17:06
  they
• 17:06
  know
• 17:06
  about
• 17:07
  educating
• 17:09
  students
• 17:10
  because
• 17:10
  we're
• 17:11
  not
• 17:11
  classroom
• 17:11
  teachers.
• 17:12
  I've
• 17:12
  not
• 17:12
  been
• 17:12
  a
• 17:12
  classroom
• 17:13
  teacher.
• 17:13
  I,
• 17:14
  I,
• 17:14
  I'm
• 17:15
  completely
• 17:15
  honest
• 17:15
  about
• 17:16
  that.
• 17:16
  I've
• 17:17
  spent
• 17:17
  my
• 17:17
  whole
• 17:17
  career
• 17:18
  building
• 17:18
  software
• 17:19
  for
• 17:19
  students
• 17:20
  and
• 17:20
  now
• 17:20
  teachers,
• 17:21
  but
• 17:21
  I've
• 17:22
  never
• 17:22
  been
• 17:22
  a
• 17:22
  teacher.
• 17:23
  But
• 17:23
  I've
• 17:23
  been
• 17:23
  in
• 17:24
  classrooms
• 17:24
  like
• 17:25
  constantly.
• 17:25
  I've
• 17:26
  been
• 17:26
  in
• 17:26
  classrooms
• 17:26
  all
• 17:27
  the
• 17:27
  time
• 17:28
  and
• 17:28
  you
• 17:28
  know,
• 17:28
  run
• 17:29
  a
• 17:29
  tutoring
• 17:29
  center,
• 17:30
  as
• 17:30
  I
• 17:30
  said,
• 17:31
  for
• 17:31
  this
• 17:31
  after
• 17:32
  school
• 17:32
  program.
• 17:33
  But
• 17:33
  you
• 17:34
  know,
• 17:34
  building
• 17:34
  that
• 17:35
  technology,
• 17:35
  as
• 17:36
  Alicia
• 17:36
  says,
• 17:37
  for
• 17:37
  the
• 17:37
  ecosystem
• 17:40
  and
• 17:40
  ecosystems
• 17:41
  that
• 17:41
  are
• 17:41
  not
• 17:41
  just
• 17:42
  the
• 17:42
  quote
• 17:42
  unquote,
• 17:43
  high
• 17:43
  flyers.
• 17:44
  Right.
• 17:44
  Because
• 17:45
  those
• 17:45
  kids
• 17:45
  are
• 17:45
  going
• 17:45
  to
• 17:46
  learn
• 17:46
  no
• 17:46
  matter
• 17:47
  what.
• 17:47
  They're
• 17:47
  going
• 17:47
  to
• 17:47
  learn
• 17:48
  no
• 17:48
  matter
• 17:48
  what.
• 17:48
  I
• 17:49
  care,
• 17:50
  and
• 17:50
  I
• 17:50
  think
• 17:50
  we
• 17:50
  all
• 17:51
  care
• 17:51
  obviously
• 17:52
  about
• 17:52
  the
• 17:52
  kids
• 17:53
  who's
• 17:53
  going
• 17:53
  to
• 17:53
  fall
• 17:53
  behind.
• 17:54
  And
• 17:54
  we
• 17:55
  know
• 17:55
  that
• 17:55
  we
• 17:55
  close
• 17:56
  the
• 17:56
  achievement
• 17:56
  gap.
• 17:57
  And
• 17:57
  any
• 17:58
  strategy
• 17:58
  training
• 17:59
  tool
• 18:00
  can't
• 18:01
  be
• 18:01
  about
• 18:01
  the
• 18:01
  best
• 18:02
  and
• 18:02
  the
• 18:02
  brightest
• 18:02
  kids.
• 18:03
  You
• 18:03
  know,
• 18:03
  post
• 18:03
  Sputnik,
• 18:04
  we're
• 18:05
  trying
• 18:05
  to
• 18:06
  develop
• 18:06
  a
• 18:07
  scientifically
• 18:07
  literate
• 18:09
  base
• 18:10
  of
• 18:10
  the
• 18:10
  population.
• 18:12
  So
• 18:12
  even
• 18:12
  if
• 18:12
  they
• 18:12
  never
• 18:13
  go
• 18:13
  into
• 18:14
  science
• 18:14
  as
• 18:14
  a
• 18:15
  STEM
• 18:15
  major
• 18:15
  or
• 18:16
  they
• 18:16
  don't
• 18:16
  become
• 18:16
  a
• 18:17
  scientist
• 18:17
  or
• 18:17
  an
• 18:17
  engineer,
• 18:18
  you
• 18:18
  want
• 18:18
  them
• 18:19
  to
• 18:19
  be
• 18:19
  able
• 18:19
  to
• 18:19
  pick
• 18:19
  up
• 18:20
  the
• 18:20
  paper
• 18:21
  and
• 18:21
  say,
• 18:21
  gee,
• 18:22
  should
• 18:22
  I
• 18:22
  get
• 18:22
  vaccinated?
• 18:23
  Should
• 18:24
  I
• 18:24
  have
• 18:24
  my
• 18:24
  house
• 18:24
  tested
• 18:25
  for
• 18:25
  radon?
• 18:26
  Should
• 18:26
  I
• 18:26
  have
• 18:26
  genetic
• 18:27
  counseling?
• 18:28
  And
• 18:28
  you
• 18:28
  need
• 18:28
  them
• 18:28
  to
• 18:29
  be
• 18:29
  scientifically
• 18:30
  literate
• 18:30
  where
• 18:30
  they
• 18:31
  can
• 18:31
  interpret
• 18:31
  that
• 18:31
  data.
• 18:32
  Right.
• 18:33
  And
• 18:33
  so
• 18:34
  we
• 18:35
  design
• 18:35
  with
• 18:35
  that
• 18:36
  in
• 18:36
  mind
• 18:36
  as
• 18:36
  well.
• 18:36
  What
• 18:37
  is
• 18:37
  the
• 18:37
  goal?
• 18:38
  Not
• 18:38
  just
• 18:38
  to
• 18:39
  build
• 18:39
  all
• 18:39
  the
• 18:39
  future
• 18:40
  scientists
• 18:40
  and
• 18:41
  engineers
• 18:41
  and
• 18:42
  the
• 18:42
  best
• 18:42
  and
• 18:42
  the
• 18:42
  brightest,
• 18:43
  because
• 18:43
  we've
• 18:43
  not
• 18:44
  had
• 18:44
  that
• 18:44
  philosophy
• 18:45
  of
• 18:45
  learning
• 18:46
  since,
• 18:46
  you
• 18:46
  know,
• 18:47
  since
• 18:48
  post
• 18:48
  Sputnik,
• 18:49
  really.
• 18:50
  So
• 18:50
  before
• 18:50
  we
• 18:51
  move
• 18:51
  on,
• 18:52
  and
• 18:52
  I
• 18:52
  know
• 18:53
  we're
• 18:53
  getting
• 18:53
  ready
• 18:53
  to
• 18:53
  close
• 18:54
  out,
• 18:54
  Michael,
• 18:54
  I
• 18:55
  want
• 18:55
  to
• 18:55
  respond
• 18:55
  as
• 18:55
  well.
• 18:56
  Culturally
• 18:57
  responsive
• 18:57
  teaching
• 18:58
  is
• 18:58
  not
• 18:58
  the
• 18:58
  responsibility
• 18:59
  of
• 19:00
  machine
• 19:00
  learning
• 19:01
  or
• 19:01
  AI
• 19:01
  or
• 19:02
  technology
• 19:03
  based
• 19:03
  curriculum.
• 19:03
  It's
• 19:04
  the
• 19:04
  responsibility
• 19:05
  of
• 19:05
  the
• 19:05
  educator
• 19:06
  in
• 19:06
  the
• 19:06
  classroom.
• 19:08
  So
• 19:08
  Whether
• 19:08
  it's
• 19:09
  black
• 19:09
  and
• 19:09
  brown,
• 19:09
  a
• 19:10
  student
• 19:10
  that
• 19:10
  is.
• 19:13
  Challenged
• 19:14
  with
• 19:14
  the
• 19:14
  identity,
• 19:15
  somebody
• 19:15
  who
• 19:15
  is
• 19:16
  impoverished,
• 19:16
  somebody
• 19:17
  who
• 19:17
  is
• 19:17
  neurodiverse.
• 19:18
  Right.
• 19:18
  I
• 19:18
  could
• 19:18
  go
• 19:18
  on
• 19:19
  and
• 19:19
  on.
• 19:19
  Whatever
• 19:20
  intersections
• 19:21
  those
• 19:21
  beautiful
• 19:22
  scholars
• 19:22
  possess,
• 19:24
  there
• 19:24
  is
• 19:24
  that
• 19:25
  human
• 19:25
  relationship,
• 19:26
  that
• 19:27
  human
• 19:28
  in
• 19:28
  the
• 19:28
  loop
• 19:29
  that
• 19:29
  must
• 19:30
  prevail.
• 19:31
  So
• 19:31
  if
• 19:31
  we're
• 19:31
  talking
• 19:32
  about
• 19:32
  moral
• 19:32
  and
• 19:33
  ethical
• 19:33
  imperatives,
• 19:34
  we
• 19:34
  have
• 19:35
  to
• 19:35
  look
• 19:35
  at
• 19:35
  our
• 19:35
  own
• 19:36
  practices
• 19:36
  first.
• 19:37
  Do
• 19:37
  we
• 19:38
  know
• 19:38
  the
• 19:38
  curriculum?
• 19:39
  Do
• 19:39
  we
• 19:39
  know
• 19:39
  how
• 19:39
  to
• 19:39
  unpack
• 19:40
  it?
• 19:40
  Do
• 19:40
  we
• 19:40
  know
• 19:41
  how
• 19:41
  that
• 19:41
  aligns
• 19:41
  with
• 19:42
  the
• 19:42
  technology
• 19:43
  piece
• 19:43
  that
• 19:44
  we're
• 19:44
  using
• 19:44
  to
• 19:45
  supplement
• 19:45
  excellent
• 19:47
  education
• 19:47
  and
• 19:47
  instruction
• 19:48
  and
• 19:48
  engagement
• 19:49
  going
• 19:49
  on
• 19:49
  in
• 19:50
  the
• 19:50
  classroom?
• 19:50
  Can't
• 19:51
  have
• 19:51
  one
• 19:51
  without
• 19:51
  the
• 19:52
  other.
• 19:52
  So
• 19:52
  I
• 19:52
  want
• 19:53
  to
• 19:53
  leave
• 19:53
  with
• 19:54
  asking
• 19:54
  Dr.
• 19:55
  Gobert
• 19:55
  one
• 19:56
  last
• 19:56
  question
• 19:56
  and
• 19:57
  then
• 19:57
  we'll
• 19:57
  wrap
• 19:58
  up
• 19:58
  this
• 19:58
  after
• 19:58
  show.
• 19:59
  So
• 20:00
  we
• 20:00
  know
• 20:01
  I
• 20:01
  could
• 20:01
  listen
• 20:01
  to
• 20:01
  you
• 20:02
  talk
• 20:02
  about
• 20:02
  this
• 20:02
  for
• 20:03
  like
• 20:03
  on
• 20:03
  and
• 20:03
  on
• 20:03
  and
• 20:04
  on.
• 20:05
  Hopefully
• 20:05
  you'll
• 20:05
  be
• 20:05
  willing
• 20:06
  to
• 20:06
  come
• 20:06
  back
• 20:06
  in
• 20:07
  a
• 20:07
  future
• 20:08
  episode
• 20:08
  and
• 20:09
  talk
• 20:09
  more
• 20:09
  about
• 20:09
  this.
• 20:10
  But
• 20:10
  you
• 20:10
  know,
• 20:11
  I
• 20:11
  also
• 20:11
  work
• 20:11
  with
• 20:12
  so
• 20:12
  many
• 20:12
  districts
• 20:13
  where
• 20:13
  they
• 20:14
  are
• 20:14
  afraid.
• 20:15
  Teachers
• 20:15
  are
• 20:16
  afraid
• 20:16
  and
• 20:16
  resistive
• 20:18
  to
• 20:18
  this
• 20:18
  technology.
• 20:19
  Right.
• 20:20
  And
• 20:20
  I
• 20:20
  don't,
• 20:20
  you
• 20:20
  know,
• 20:21
  and
• 20:21
  of
• 20:21
  course
• 20:21
  I
• 20:21
  don't
• 20:21
  understand
• 20:22
  why
• 20:22
  they
• 20:22
  should
• 20:22
  be
• 20:23
  like,
• 20:24
  well,
• 20:24
  come
• 20:25
  on,
• 20:25
  let's
• 20:25
  go.
• 20:25
  Right,
• 20:26
  let's
• 20:26
  go.
• 20:26
  So
• 20:27
  could
• 20:27
  you.
• 20:27
  Because
• 20:27
  you
• 20:28
  know
• 20:28
  so
• 20:28
  much
• 20:28
  more
• 20:28
  about
• 20:29
  this
• 20:29
  than
• 20:29
  I
• 20:29
  do.
• 20:30
  For
• 20:30
  a
• 20:30
  teacher,
• 20:31
  for
• 20:31
  a
• 20:31
  district,
• 20:32
  for
• 20:32
  leaders
• 20:33
  who
• 20:33
  are
• 20:34
  afraid
• 20:35
  of
• 20:36
  this
• 20:37
  technology,
• 20:38
  what
• 20:38
  do
• 20:38
  you
• 20:38
  want
• 20:38
  them
• 20:38
  to
• 20:39
  know?
• 20:39
  Like,
• 20:39
  how
• 20:39
  do
• 20:39
  you,
• 20:40
  what,
• 20:40
  what's
• 20:41
  the
• 20:41
  first
• 20:41
  thing
• 20:42
  that
• 20:42
  you
• 20:42
  would
• 20:42
  tell
• 20:43
  a
• 20:43
  group
• 20:43
  of
• 20:43
  educators
• 20:45
  who
• 20:45
  were
• 20:46
  resistive
• 20:47
  to
• 20:47
  this
• 20:48
  kind
• 20:48
  of
• 20:48
  technology?
• 20:49
  How
• 20:49
  would
• 20:49
  you,
• 20:50
  how
• 20:50
  would
• 20:50
  you
• 20:50
  lure
• 20:51
  them
• 20:51
  to,
• 20:52
  to
• 20:52
  this
• 20:52
  work?
• 20:53
  What
• 20:53
  would
• 20:53
  you
• 20:53
  say
• 20:54
  to
• 20:54
  them?
• 20:55
  I
• 20:55
  would
• 20:55
  say,
• 20:56
  give
• 20:56
  it
• 20:56
  a
• 20:56
  try.
• 20:57
  We
• 20:57
  do
• 20:58
  offer
• 20:58
  free
• 20:58
  trials,
• 20:59
  by
• 20:59
  the
• 20:59
  way,
• 21:00
  and
• 21:00
  we
• 21:00
  look
• 21:01
  at
• 21:01
  that,
• 21:01
  those
• 21:02
  data
• 21:02
  points
• 21:02
  and
• 21:03
  go
• 21:03
  over
• 21:03
  the
• 21:04
  data
• 21:04
  and
• 21:05
  show
• 21:05
  educators
• 21:06
  what
• 21:06
  they're
• 21:07
  able
• 21:07
  to
• 21:07
  know
• 21:07
  with
• 21:08
  a
• 21:08
  system
• 21:09
  like
• 21:09
  mine
• 21:11
  that
• 21:11
  they
• 21:11
  could
• 21:11
  not
• 21:12
  know
• 21:12
  any
• 21:12
  other
• 21:13
  way,
• 21:13
  right?
• 21:14
  The
• 21:14
  student
• 21:14
  who
• 21:15
  is
• 21:16
  good
• 21:16
  at
• 21:16
  this
• 21:16
  part,
• 21:16
  but
• 21:17
  not
• 21:17
  this
• 21:17
  part,
• 21:17
  right?
• 21:18
  In
• 21:18
  this
• 21:18
  very
• 21:18
  fine
• 21:19
  grained
• 21:19
  way.
• 21:20
  Students
• 21:21
  who
• 21:21
  are
• 21:21
  really
• 21:22
  good
• 21:22
  at
• 21:22
  the
• 21:22
  doing
• 21:22
  of
• 21:23
  science,
• 21:23
  but
• 21:23
  not
• 21:24
  good
• 21:24
  at
• 21:24
  the
• 21:24
  communicating
• 21:25
  about
• 21:25
  science.
• 21:26
  So
• 21:26
  teachers
• 21:27
  who
• 21:27
  are
• 21:27
  typically
• 21:28
  using
• 21:28
  a
• 21:28
  lab
• 21:29
  report,
• 21:29
  those
• 21:29
  kids
• 21:30
  are
• 21:30
  going
• 21:30
  to
• 21:30
  fall
• 21:31
  behind.
• 21:31
  Like
• 21:31
  if
• 21:31
  English
• 21:32
  isn't
• 21:32
  their
• 21:32
  first
• 21:32
  language,
• 21:33
  for
• 21:33
  example,
• 21:34
  or
• 21:34
  they're
• 21:34
  going
• 21:34
  to
• 21:34
  be
• 21:34
  assessed
• 21:35
  as,
• 21:36
  as
• 21:36
  not
• 21:36
  knowing
• 21:37
  as
• 21:37
  much
• 21:37
  as
• 21:37
  they
• 21:37
  do.
• 21:38
  So
• 21:38
  I
• 21:39
  would
• 21:39
  say
• 21:39
  give
• 21:39
  it
• 21:39
  a
• 21:39
  try.
• 21:40
  Don't
• 21:41
  be
• 21:41
  intimidated
• 21:41
  by
• 21:42
  it.
• 21:44
  Give
• 21:44
  it
• 21:44
  a
• 21:44
  try.
• 21:45
  Give,
• 21:45
  you
• 21:45
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• 21:45
  give
• 21:45
  us
• 21:46
  a
• 21:46
  call,
• 21:46
  we'll
• 21:46
  help
• 21:47
  you
• 21:47
  out.
• 21:47
  We
• 21:47
  have
• 21:48
  many
• 21:48
  training
• 21:48
  videos,
• 21:49
  we
• 21:49
  have
• 21:49
  many
• 21:50
  webinars
• 21:50
  that
• 21:50
  we
• 21:51
  offer
• 21:51
  and
• 21:52
  walk
• 21:52
  teachers
• 21:53
  through
• 21:53
  how
• 21:54
  to
• 21:54
  use
• 21:54
  the
• 21:54
  system.
• 21:55
  And
• 21:56
  the
• 21:56
  other
• 21:56
  thing
• 21:56
  is,
• 21:57
  is
• 21:57
  that
• 21:57
  I
• 21:58
  think
• 21:58
  it's
• 21:58
  kind
• 21:59
  of
• 21:59
  buyer
• 21:59
  beware.
• 22:00
  Like,
• 22:00
  you
• 22:00
  should
• 22:00
  know.
• 22:01
  And
• 22:02
  I.
• 22:02
  And
• 22:02
  this
• 22:02
  is
• 22:03
  part
• 22:03
  of
• 22:03
  the
• 22:03
  European
• 22:04
  ethic
• 22:05
  around
• 22:06
  transparency.
• 22:07
  You
• 22:08
  should
• 22:08
  know
• 22:09
  how
• 22:09
  those
• 22:09
  algorithms
• 22:10
  are
• 22:10
  built
• 22:11
  and
• 22:12
  like,
• 22:12
  to
• 22:12
  a
• 22:13
  certain
• 22:13
  level
• 22:13
  of
• 22:13
  description,
• 22:14
  transparency
• 22:15
  has
• 22:16
  to
• 22:16
  be
• 22:16
  key
• 22:17
  and
• 22:17
  you
• 22:17
  should
• 22:18
  know
• 22:19
  kind
• 22:19
  of
• 22:20
  how
• 22:20
  to
• 22:20
  leverage
• 22:21
  the
• 22:21
  system
• 22:21
  in
• 22:22
  order
• 22:22
  to
• 22:22
  make
• 22:22
  actionable
• 22:23
  decisions.
• 22:24
  Right.
• 22:25
  And,
• 22:25
  you
• 22:25
  know,
• 22:25
  software
• 22:26
  that's,
• 22:26
  that's
• 22:27
  worthwhile
• 22:28
  should
• 22:29
  be
• 22:29
  transparent,
• 22:31
  should
• 22:31
  tell
• 22:32
  you
• 22:32
  what
• 22:33
  practices
• 22:33
  are
• 22:33
  being
• 22:34
  scored
• 22:34
  kind
• 22:34
  of
• 22:35
  what
• 22:35
  are
• 22:35
  the
• 22:36
  sub
• 22:36
  competencies
• 22:37
  of
• 22:37
  those
• 22:37
  practices?
• 22:38
  Because
• 22:39
  it
• 22:39
  doesn't
• 22:39
  help
• 22:39
  a
• 22:40
  teacher
• 22:40
  to
• 22:40
  say,
• 22:41
  90%
• 22:42
  of
• 22:42
  your
• 22:42
  class
• 22:43
  doesn't
• 22:43
  know
• 22:43
  how
• 22:43
  to
• 22:43
  form
• 22:44
  a
• 22:44
  testable
• 22:44
  question.
• 22:45
  Well,
• 22:45
  what
• 22:46
  are
• 22:46
  they
• 22:46
  going
• 22:46
  to
• 22:46
  do
• 22:46
  with
• 22:46
  that?
• 22:47
  Right.
• 22:47
  The
• 22:48
  software
• 22:48
  has
• 22:48
  to
• 22:49
  say,
• 22:49
  you
• 22:49
  know
• 22:49
  what?
• 22:49
  90%
• 22:50
  of
• 22:50
  your
• 22:50
  class
• 22:50
  doesn't
• 22:51
  know
• 22:51
  how
• 22:51
  to
• 22:51
  form
• 22:51
  a
• 22:52
  testable
• 22:52
  question
• 22:53
  because
• 22:53
  they
• 22:53
  don't
• 22:54
  understand
• 22:54
  the
• 22:54
  difference
• 22:55
  between
• 22:55
  an
• 22:56
  independent
• 22:56
  and
• 22:57
  dependent
• 22:57
  variable.
• 22:58
  Here's
• 22:59
  some
• 22:59
  vetted,
• 23:00
  empirically
• 23:01
  tested
• 23:02
  conversational
• 23:03
  conversation
• 23:04
  starters
• 23:04
  that
• 23:05
  we
• 23:05
  call
• 23:05
  tips.
• 23:06
  Here's
• 23:06
  how
• 23:06
  you
• 23:07
  can
• 23:07
  stop
• 23:07
  the
• 23:07
  class
• 23:08
  and
• 23:08
  start
• 23:09
  the
• 23:09
  conversation.
• 23:10
  And
• 23:10
  this
• 23:11
  has
• 23:11
  been
• 23:11
  really
• 23:11
  rich.
• 23:12
  Like,
• 23:12
  teachers
• 23:13
  have
• 23:14
  sent
• 23:14
  us
• 23:14
  emails,
• 23:15
  called
• 23:15
  us,
• 23:16
  and
• 23:16
  said,
• 23:16
  you
• 23:16
  changed
• 23:17
  my
• 23:17
  life.
• 23:18
  Kids
• 23:19
  were
• 23:19
  collecting
• 23:20
  all
• 23:20
  this
• 23:20
  confounded
• 23:21
  data.
• 23:21
  I
• 23:22
  stopped
• 23:22
  the
• 23:22
  class.
• 23:22
  I
• 23:23
  got
• 23:23
  an
• 23:23
  alert
• 23:23
  that
• 23:24
  80%
• 23:24
  of
• 23:25
  kids
• 23:25
  were
• 23:25
  changing
• 23:26
  too
• 23:26
  many
• 23:26
  variables
• 23:27
  at
• 23:27
  once.
• 23:28
  I
• 23:28
  stopped
• 23:28
  the
• 23:29
  class.
• 23:29
  I
• 23:29
  put
• 23:30
  somebody's
• 23:30
  data
• 23:30
  up,
• 23:31
  and
• 23:31
  I
• 23:31
  had
• 23:32
  a
• 23:32
  whole
• 23:32
  class
• 23:32
  discussion
• 23:33
  about
• 23:34
  how
• 23:34
  can
• 23:34
  we
• 23:35
  interpret
• 23:35
  this
• 23:35
  data.
• 23:36
  And
• 23:36
  as
• 23:37
  a
• 23:37
  class,
• 23:38
  we
• 23:38
  came
• 23:38
  to
• 23:38
  the
• 23:39
  conclusion
• 23:39
  that
• 23:39
  you
• 23:40
  actually
• 23:40
  have
• 23:40
  to
• 23:40
  target
• 23:41
  your
• 23:41
  variable
• 23:42
  that
• 23:42
  you
• 23:43
  said
• 23:43
  you
• 23:43
  were
• 23:43
  going
• 23:43
  to
• 23:43
  target
• 23:44
  and
• 23:44
  keep
• 23:44
  the
• 23:45
  rest
• 23:45
  the
• 23:45
  same
• 23:46
  and
• 23:46
  then
• 23:46
  run
• 23:47
  iterative
• 23:47
  trials
• 23:48
  so
• 23:49
  that
• 23:49
  you
• 23:50
  can
• 23:50
  determine
• 23:50
  the
• 23:50
  effects
• 23:51
  of
• 23:51
  X
• 23:51
  on
• 23:51
  Y.
• 23:52
  And
• 23:52
  teachers
• 23:53
  have
• 23:53
  said
• 23:53
  things
• 23:54
  like,
• 23:54
  this
• 23:54
  was
• 23:54
  the
• 23:55
  most
• 23:55
  powerful
• 23:55
  instructional
• 23:56
  moment
• 23:57
  of
• 23:57
  my
• 23:57
  life.
• 23:58
  And
• 23:58
  I'm
• 23:58
  like,
• 23:59
  wow,
• 23:59
  you
• 24:00
  know,
• 24:01
  I
• 24:01
  built.
• 24:01
  You
• 24:02
  know,
• 24:02
  I
• 24:02
  spent
• 24:02
  most
• 24:02
  of
• 24:02
  my
• 24:03
  career
• 24:03
  building
• 24:04
  software
• 24:04
  for
• 24:04
  kids.
• 24:05
  No
• 24:06
  kids,
• 24:06
  including
• 24:06
  my
• 24:07
  own
• 24:07
  three
• 24:07
  have
• 24:07
  said,
• 24:07
  you
• 24:08
  changed
• 24:08
  my
• 24:08
  life.
• 24:08
  But,
• 24:09
  teacher,
• 24:11
  you
• 24:11
  changed
• 24:11
  my
• 24:12
  life.
• 24:12
  And
• 24:13
  I'm
• 24:13
  like,
• 24:14
  yes,
• 24:14
  I'll
• 24:14
  build
• 24:14
  teacher
• 24:15
  tools
• 24:15
  till
• 24:16
  the
• 24:16
  cows
• 24:16
  come
• 24:16
  home.
• 24:18
  What
• 24:18
  a
• 24:18
  great
• 24:18
  example
• 24:19
  of
• 24:19
  science
• 24:19
  literacy
• 24:20
  in
• 24:20
  that
• 24:20
  moment.
• 24:21
  Because
• 24:22
  we
• 24:22
  can't
• 24:22
  do
• 24:22
  that
• 24:23
  on
• 24:23
  our
• 24:23
  own.
• 24:24
  That
• 24:25
  level
• 24:25
  of
• 24:25
  understanding,
• 24:26
  that
• 24:26
  depth
• 24:26
  of
• 24:27
  understanding,
• 24:27
  to
• 24:27
  be
• 24:27
  able
• 24:28
  to
• 24:28
  tear
• 24:28
  it
• 24:28
  apart
• 24:28
  and
• 24:29
  think
• 24:29
  about
• 24:29
  all
• 24:29
  those
• 24:30
  pieces
• 24:30
  for
• 24:30
  35
• 24:31
  kids
• 24:31
  all
• 24:31
  at
• 24:31
  once.
• 24:32
  We
• 24:32
  cannot,
• 24:33
  no
• 24:33
  matter
• 24:33
  how
• 24:33
  smart
• 24:33
  we
• 24:34
  think
• 24:34
  we
• 24:34
  are,
• 24:35
  we
• 24:35
  can't
• 24:36
  do
• 24:36
  that
• 24:37
  on
• 24:37
  our
• 24:38
  own.
• 24:38
  Right.
• 24:39
  We
• 24:39
  had
• 24:39
  a
• 24:39
  teacher
• 24:40
  who,
• 24:40
  you
• 24:40
  know,
• 24:40
  was
• 24:41
  a
• 24:41
  master's
• 24:42
  in
• 24:42
  chemistry.
• 24:43
  Her
• 24:43
  name's
• 24:43
  Nancy
• 24:44
  Foote.
• 24:44
  I'll
• 24:44
  give
• 24:44
  her
• 24:44
  a
• 24:45
  shout
• 24:45
  out
• 24:45
  from
• 24:45
  Arizona.
• 24:46
  She's
• 24:47
  now
• 24:47
  retired
• 24:48
  but
• 24:49
  she
• 24:49
  said,
• 24:50
  I
• 24:50
  thought
• 24:51
  kids
• 24:51
  didn't
• 24:52
  know
• 24:52
  how
• 24:52
  to
• 24:52
  interpret
• 24:53
  data.
• 24:53
  And
• 24:54
  I
• 24:54
  thought
• 24:54
  that
• 24:54
  for
• 24:55
  30
• 24:55
  years
• 24:55
  until
• 24:56
  I
• 24:56
  used
• 24:56
  your
• 24:56
  system.
• 24:57
  And
• 24:57
  I
• 24:57
  realized
• 24:58
  that
• 24:58
  kids,
• 24:59
  many
• 25:00
  kids,
• 25:00
  don't
• 25:00
  know
• 25:01
  how
• 25:01
  to
• 25:01
  collect
• 25:02
  unconfounded
• 25:03
  data.
• 25:04
  So
• 25:04
  she
• 25:05
  said,
• 25:05
  I
• 25:05
  always
• 25:05
  thought
• 25:06
  the
• 25:06
  problem
• 25:06
  was
• 25:06
  they
• 25:06
  couldn't
• 25:07
  interpret
• 25:07
  it,
• 25:08
  but
• 25:08
  in
• 25:08
  fact
• 25:08
  many
• 25:09
  of
• 25:09
  them
• 25:09
  couldn't
• 25:10
  collect
• 25:10
  unconfounded
• 25:11
  data.
• 25:12
  And
• 25:12
  we
• 25:12
  know
• 25:12
  that
• 25:13
  even
• 25:13
  adults
• 25:13
  who
• 25:14
  are
• 25:14
  not
• 25:14
  trained
• 25:14
  in
• 25:14
  science
• 25:15
  don't
• 25:15
  actually
• 25:16
  know
• 25:16
  how
• 25:16
  to
• 25:16
  collect
• 25:17
  unconfounded
• 25:18
  data.
• 25:19
  So
• 25:19
  how
• 25:20
  are
• 25:20
  they
• 25:20
  ever
• 25:20
  going
• 25:20
  to
• 25:20
  interpret
• 25:21
  it?
• 25:21
  How
• 25:21
  are
• 25:22
  they
• 25:22
  going
• 25:22
  to
• 25:22
  warrant
• 25:22
  their
• 25:22
  claims?
• 25:23
  How
• 25:23
  are
• 25:23
  they
• 25:23
  going
• 25:24
  to
• 25:24
  do
• 25:24
  the
• 25:24
  mathematics?
• 25:25
  How
• 25:25
  are
• 25:25
  they
• 25:25
  going
• 25:25
  to
• 25:26
  write
• 25:26
  a
• 25:26
  claim
• 25:26
  evidence
• 25:26
  reasoning
• 25:27
  statement
• 25:27
  if
• 25:28
  their
• 25:28
  data
• 25:28
  are
• 25:28
  all
• 25:29
  confounded?
• 25:30
  Right.
• 25:30
  It's
• 25:30
  a
• 25:30
  lost
• 25:31
  learning
• 25:31
  opportunity.
• 25:33
  So
• 25:34
  it's
• 25:34
  important
• 25:34
  that
• 25:35
  teachers
• 25:35
  get
• 25:36
  this
• 25:36
  actionable
• 25:37
  information
• 25:38
  in
• 25:38
  order
• 25:38
  to
• 25:38
  stop
• 25:39
  the
• 25:39
  class.
• 25:39
  And
• 25:40
  kids
• 25:40
  are
• 25:40
  kind
• 25:40
  of,
• 25:41
  you
• 25:41
  know,
• 25:41
  they're
• 25:41
  shooting
• 25:42
  around
• 25:42
  in
• 25:42
  the
• 25:42
  dark
• 25:42
  if
• 25:43
  they're
• 25:43
  not
• 25:43
  getting
• 25:44
  real
• 25:44
  time
• 25:44
  feedback
• 25:45
  and
• 25:45
  then
• 25:45
  they're
• 25:46
  looking
• 25:46
  at
• 25:46
  their
• 25:46
  data
• 25:46
  going,
• 25:47
  I
• 25:48
  can't
• 25:48
  make
• 25:48
  heads
• 25:48
  or
• 25:48
  tails
• 25:49
  of
• 25:49
  this.
• 25:49
  I
• 25:49
  must
• 25:50
  be
• 25:50
  dumb.
• 25:50
  I
• 25:51
  must
• 25:51
  not
• 25:51
  be
• 25:51
  as
• 25:52
  smart
• 25:52
  as,
• 25:52
  you
• 25:52
  know,
• 25:53
  Susie
• 25:53
  down
• 25:53
  the
• 25:54
  row
• 25:54
  here
• 25:54
  who
• 25:55
  seems
• 25:55
  to
• 25:55
  be
• 25:55
  finished
• 25:55
  the
• 25:56
  lab
• 25:56
  already,
• 25:56
  right?
• 25:57
  And
• 25:58
  so
• 25:58
  this
• 25:58
  is
• 25:58
  just
• 25:58
  a
• 25:59
  game
• 25:59
  changer
• 25:59
  for
• 25:59
  students.
• 26:00
  And
• 26:00
  they're
• 26:00
  like,
• 26:00
  oh,
• 26:01
  wait
• 26:01
  a
• 26:01
  second,
• 26:02
  I
• 26:02
  have
• 26:02
  to.
• 26:03
  And
• 26:03
  we
• 26:03
  discovered
• 26:04
  this,
• 26:04
  by
• 26:04
  the
• 26:04
  way,
• 26:05
  working
• 26:05
  one
• 26:06
  on
• 26:06
  one
• 26:06
  in
• 26:06
  the
• 26:06
  after
• 26:07
  school
• 26:07
  program
• 26:08
  where
• 26:08
  I
• 26:09
  could
• 26:09
  see
• 26:09
  a
• 26:09
  kid.
• 26:10
  And
• 26:10
  this
• 26:10
  is
• 26:10
  where
• 26:10
  educators
• 26:11
  know
• 26:11
  so
• 26:12
  much
• 26:12
  about
• 26:13
  the
• 26:13
  kid,
• 26:13
  right?
• 26:13
  I
• 26:14
  could
• 26:14
  see
• 26:14
  the
• 26:14
  kid,
• 26:15
  he's
• 26:15
  like
• 26:16
  struggling
• 26:16
  in
• 26:16
  his
• 26:17
  chair
• 26:17
  and
• 26:17
  he's
• 26:18
  fidgeting
• 26:18
  and
• 26:18
  I
• 26:18
  go,
• 26:19
  he's
• 26:19
  stuck.
• 26:19
  So
• 26:20
  I
• 26:20
  go
• 26:20
  over
• 26:20
  to
• 26:20
  him
• 26:21
  and
• 26:21
  I
• 26:21
  say,
• 26:21
  hey,
• 26:21
  what's
• 26:22
  going
• 26:22
  on?
• 26:22
  And
• 26:22
  he
• 26:22
  goes,
• 26:24
  it's
• 26:24
  asking
• 26:25
  me,
• 26:25
  you
• 26:26
  know,
• 26:26
  what
• 26:26
  my
• 26:27
  data
• 26:27
  is
• 26:27
  telling
• 26:28
  me.
• 26:28
  And
• 26:28
  I'm
• 26:29
  looking
• 26:29
  at
• 26:29
  it
• 26:29
  and
• 26:29
  I
• 26:29
  see
• 26:30
  he's
• 26:30
  collected
• 26:30
  all
• 26:31
  this
• 26:31
  confounded
• 26:31
  data.
• 26:33
  And
• 26:33
  I
• 26:33
  say,
• 26:34
  so,
• 26:34
  so
• 26:34
  what
• 26:35
  does
• 26:35
  it
• 26:35
  tell
• 26:35
  you?
• 26:35
  And
• 26:35
  he
• 26:35
  goes,
• 26:36
  well,
• 26:36
  that's
• 26:36
  the
• 26:36
  thing,
• 26:36
  I,
• 26:37
  I,
• 26:37
  I
• 26:37
  don't
• 26:38
  know.
• 26:38
  And
• 26:38
  I
• 26:38
  said,
• 26:38
  well,
• 26:39
  why
• 26:39
  is
• 26:40
  that?
• 26:40
  And
• 26:40
  he
• 26:40
  said,
• 26:40
  well,
• 26:41
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• 26:41
  I
• 26:41
  change
• 26:42
  this
• 26:42
  and
• 26:42
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• 26:43
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• 26:43
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• 26:43
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• 26:44
  I
• 26:44
  change
• 26:44
  that
• 26:44
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• 26:45
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• 26:45
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• 26:46
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• 26:46
  I
• 26:46
  change
• 26:46
  this,
• 26:46
  this
• 26:47
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• 26:47
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• 26:48
  So
• 26:48
  we
• 26:48
  have
• 26:48
  this
• 26:48
  conversation
• 26:49
  and
• 26:49
  I'm
• 26:49
  trying
• 26:50
  to
• 26:50
  put
• 26:50
  down
• 26:51
  the
• 26:51
  smallest
• 26:51
  breadcrumb
• 26:52
  because
• 26:53
  I
• 26:53
  want
• 26:53
  him
• 26:54
  to
• 26:54
  come
• 26:54
  up
• 26:54
  with
• 26:54
  the
• 26:55
  strategy
• 26:55
  that
• 26:55
  he
• 26:56
  has
• 26:56
  to
• 26:56
  vary
• 26:57
  only
• 26:57
  the
• 26:57
  variable
• 26:58
  that
• 26:58
  he
• 26:59
  said
• 26:59
  he
• 26:59
  was
• 26:59
  going
• 26:59
  to
• 26:59
  test
• 26:59
  and
• 27:00
  keep
• 27:00
  the
• 27:00
  rest
• 27:00
  the
• 27:00
  same.
• 27:01
  We
• 27:01
  have
• 27:01
  this
• 27:02
  conversation,
• 27:02
  it
• 27:02
  lasts
• 27:03
  45
• 27:03
  minutes.
• 27:04
  He
• 27:04
  says
• 27:05
  to
• 27:05
  me,
• 27:05
  all
• 27:05
  of
• 27:05
  a
• 27:05
  sudden
• 27:06
  I
• 27:06
  have
• 27:06
  an
• 27:06
  idea.
• 27:07
  I
• 27:07
  go,
• 27:07
  what?
• 27:07
  He
• 27:08
  goes,
• 27:08
  I'm
• 27:08
  going
• 27:08
  to
• 27:08
  go
• 27:08
  back
• 27:09
  and
• 27:09
  I'm
• 27:09
  just
• 27:10
  going
• 27:10
  to
• 27:10
  change
• 27:11
  my
• 27:12
  independent
• 27:12
  variable.
• 27:13
  I'm
• 27:13
  going
• 27:13
  to
• 27:13
  change
• 27:14
  it
• 27:14
  and
• 27:14
  I'm
• 27:15
  going
• 27:15
  to
• 27:15
  keep
• 27:15
  the
• 27:15
  other
• 27:16
  variables
• 27:16
  the
• 27:16
  same
• 27:17
  and
• 27:17
  I'm
• 27:17
  going
• 27:17
  to
• 27:17
  run
• 27:17
  a
• 27:18
  bunch
• 27:18
  of
• 27:18
  trials.
• 27:19
  What
• 27:20
  do
• 27:20
  you
• 27:20
  think
• 27:20
  I
• 27:21
  said
• 27:21
  that
• 27:21
  sounds.
• 27:23
  He
• 27:24
  figured
• 27:24
  it
• 27:24
  out
• 27:25
  and
• 27:25
  that
• 27:25
  that
• 27:25
  was
• 27:25
  a
• 27:26
  game
• 27:26
  changer
• 27:26
  for
• 27:26
  that
• 27:26
  kid.
• 27:27
  Right?
• 27:27
  He's
• 27:27
  like,
• 27:28
  oh
• 27:28
  my
• 27:28
  God.
• 27:29
  Rather
• 27:29
  than
• 27:29
  me
• 27:30
  tell
• 27:30
  him.
• 27:31
  Right.
• 27:31
  And
• 27:32
  that's
• 27:32
  what
• 27:32
  our
• 27:32
  system
• 27:33
  does.
• 27:33
  It
• 27:33
  doesn't
• 27:33
  tell
• 27:34
  them.
• 27:34
  It
• 27:34
  gives
• 27:35
  them
• 27:35
  these
• 27:35
  little
• 27:35
  breadcrumbs.
• 27:36
  And
• 27:36
  kids
• 27:37
  who
• 27:37
  are
• 27:37
  used
• 27:37
  to
• 27:38
  technology
• 27:38
  that
• 27:39
  just
• 27:39
  gives
• 27:39
  them
• 27:39
  the
• 27:40
  answer.
• 27:41
  They're
• 27:41
  like,
• 27:41
  I'm
• 27:42
  just
• 27:42
  going
• 27:42
  to
• 27:42
  click
• 27:42
  down,
• 27:43
  get
• 27:43
  the
• 27:43
  answer
• 27:43
  and
• 27:43
  get
• 27:44
  out
• 27:44
  the
• 27:44
  door,
• 27:44
  get
• 27:44
  back
• 27:45
  to
• 27:45
  Facebook
• 27:45
  or
• 27:45
  whatever
• 27:46
  as
• 27:46
  quickly
• 27:47
  as
• 27:47
  possible.
• 27:48
  And
• 27:48
  we've
• 27:48
  had
• 27:48
  teachers
• 27:49
  go,
• 27:49
  oh
• 27:49
  my
• 27:49
  God,
• 27:50
  the
• 27:50
  kids
• 27:50
  are
• 27:50
  complaining
• 27:50
  about
• 27:51
  the
• 27:51
  AI
• 27:51
  tutor.
• 27:52
  And
• 27:52
  I
• 27:52
  said,
• 27:53
  tell
• 27:53
  them
• 27:53
  that
• 27:54
  the
• 27:54
  AI
• 27:54
  tutor
• 27:54
  is
• 27:55
  there
• 27:55
  to
• 27:55
  help
• 27:55
  them
• 27:56
  and
• 27:56
  if
• 27:56
  they
• 27:56
  follow
• 27:57
  the
• 27:57
  hints
• 27:58
  that
• 27:58
  the
• 27:58
  AI
• 27:58
  tutor
• 27:59
  is
• 27:59
  giving
• 27:59
  them,
• 28:00
  they'll
• 28:00
  eventually
• 28:01
  figure
• 28:01
  out
• 28:02
  how
• 28:02
  to
• 28:02
  do
• 28:02
  this
• 28:02
  on
• 28:03
  their
• 28:03
  own.
• 28:04
  And
• 28:04
  even
• 28:05
  simply
• 28:05
  teachers
• 28:06
  saying
• 28:06
  that
• 28:06
  to
• 28:06
  students
• 28:07
  is
• 28:07
  a
• 28:07
  game
• 28:08
  changer
• 28:08
  because
• 28:08
  they're
• 28:09
  like,
• 28:09
  oh,
• 28:09
  wait
• 28:09
  a
• 28:09
  second,
• 28:10
  you
• 28:10
  know,
• 28:10
  so
• 28:11
  I,
• 28:11
  I
• 28:11
  really
• 28:11
  think
• 28:12
  that
• 28:12
  the
• 28:13
  sooner
• 28:13
  we
• 28:13
  get
• 28:13
  back
• 28:14
  to
• 28:15
  school
• 28:15
  as
• 28:16
  a
• 28:16
  place
• 28:16
  where
• 28:16
  you
• 28:16
  go
• 28:17
  to
• 28:17
  learn
• 28:17
  things,
• 28:18
  right?
• 28:19
  Yes,
• 28:20
  you
• 28:20
  need,
• 28:20
  you
• 28:21
  need
• 28:21
  lots
• 28:21
  of
• 28:21
  things
• 28:21
  in
• 28:22
  schools,
• 28:22
  but
• 28:23
  you
• 28:23
  really
• 28:24
  need
• 28:24
  students
• 28:25
  to
• 28:25
  have
• 28:26
  the
• 28:26
  kind
• 28:26
  of
• 28:27
  epistemic
• 28:27
  agency
• 28:29
  and
• 28:29
  want
• 28:29
  to
• 28:30
  real
• 28:30
  want
• 28:31
  to
• 28:31
  develop
• 28:32
  those
• 28:32
  critical
• 28:32
  reasoning
• 28:33
  skills.
• 28:34
  Because
• 28:35
  otherwise
• 28:35
  they
• 28:35
  won't.
• 28:35
  If
• 28:36
  they're
• 28:36
  just
• 28:36
  clicking
• 28:36
  and
• 28:37
  getting
• 28:37
  what's
• 28:37
  called
• 28:38
  the
• 28:38
  bottom
• 28:38
  out
• 28:38
  hint
• 28:39
  and
• 28:39
  doing
• 28:39
  no
• 28:40
  reflection
• 28:40
  and
• 28:41
  doing
• 28:41
  no
• 28:41
  kind
• 28:42
  of
• 28:42
  internal
• 28:43
  thinking
• 28:43
  about
• 28:43
  that,
• 28:44
  they're
• 28:44
  not
• 28:44
  learning
• 28:45
  anything.
• 28:45
  They're
• 28:46
  just
• 28:46
  clicking
• 28:46
  through.
• 28:47
  And
• 28:47
  this
• 28:47
  is
• 28:47
  why
• 28:47
  technology
• 28:48
  gets
• 28:48
  a
• 28:48
  bad
• 28:49
  name.
• 28:49
  And
• 28:50
  deservedly.
• 28:50
  Right?
• 28:51
  Deservedly.
• 28:51
  If
• 28:52
  you're
• 28:52
  going
• 28:52
  to
• 28:53
  give
• 28:53
  a
• 28:53
  bottom
• 28:53
  out
• 28:54
  hint,
• 28:54
  they're
• 28:55
  going
• 28:55
  to
• 28:55
  use
• 28:55
  it.
• 28:56
  Right?
• 28:57
  Thank
• 28:58
  you
• 28:58
  so
• 28:58
  much.
• 28:59
  This
• 28:59
  brings
• 28:59
  us
• 28:59
  to
• 28:59
  the
• 29:00
  end
• 29:00
  of
• 29:00
  the
• 29:00
  wheelhouse.
• 29:01
  All
• 29:01
  hands
• 29:01
  on
• 29:02
  deck.
• 29:02
  We
• 29:02
  look
• 29:02
  forward
• 29:03
  to
• 29:03
  engaging
• 29:03
  in
• 29:04
  conversation
• 29:04
  with
• 29:04
  you,
• 29:04
  Dr.
• 29:05
  Janice
• 29:05
  Gobert.
• 29:06
  I
• 29:06
  hope
• 29:06
  you
• 29:06
  will
• 29:06
  come
• 29:07
  back
• 29:07
  again
• 29:07
  and
• 29:08
  talk
• 29:08
  to
• 29:08
  us
• 29:08
  some
• 29:08
  more
• 29:09
  about
• 29:09
  this.
• 29:09
  This
• 29:09
  has
• 29:09
  been
• 29:10
  a
• 29:10
  fant.
• 29:11
  We'll
• 29:11
  see
• 29:11
  you
• 29:11
  next
• 29:12
  week
• 29:12
  in
• 29:12
  the
• 29:12
  wheelhouse.
• 29:20
  Pause.
• 29:21
  1,
• 29:21
  2,
• 29:22
  3,
• 29:22
  4.
• 29:22
  Ready
• 29:23
  for
• 29:23
  the
• 29:23
  after
• 29:23
  show.
• 29:27
  Welcome
• 29:29
  to
• 29:29
  Below
• 29:30
  Deck.
• 29:31
  Sorry,
• 29:31
  that's
• 29:32
  not
• 29:32
  right.
• 29:35
  I
• 29:35
  got
• 29:35
  to
• 29:35
  do
• 29:35
  a
• 29:36
  commercial
• 29:36
  too.
• 29:36
  I
• 29:36
  forgot
• 29:36
  to
• 29:37
  mention,
• 29:38
  I
• 29:38
  forgot
• 29:38
  to
• 29:38
  mention
• 29:39
  that.
• 29:39
  So
• 29:39
  we're
• 29:39
  going
• 29:39
  to
• 29:39
  go
• 29:39
  three,
• 29:40
  two,
• 29:41
  one.
• 29:41
  I'm
• 29:41
  going
• 29:41
  to
• 29:42
  try
• 29:42
  to
• 29:42
  do
• 29:42
  this.
• 29:42
  Yes.
• 29:45
  If
• 29:45
  you'd
• 29:45
  like
• 29:46
  to
• 29:46
  hear
• 29:46
  more
• 29:46
  of
• 29:46
  this
• 29:46
  amazing
• 29:47
  conversation,
• 29:48
  then
• 29:48
  we
• 29:49
  have
• 29:49
  a
• 29:49
  second
• 29:49
  part
• 29:50
  or
• 29:50
  an
• 29:50
  after
• 29:51
  show
• 29:51
  called
• 29:52
  the
• 29:52
  wheelhouse.
• 29:53
  All
• 29:53
  hands
• 29:54
  on
• 29:54
  deck.
• 29:55
  Only
• 29:55
  available
• 29:56
  at
• 29:56
  Learn
• 29:57
  harbor.
• 29:57
  So
• 29:57
  join
• 29:58
  us
• 29:58
  in
• 29:58
  the
• 29:59
  wheelhouse
• 29:59
  below
• 29:59
  deck@learnharbor.thinkific.com.
• 30:10
  This
• 30:10
  is
• 30:11
  the
• 30:11
  wheelhouse.
• 30:12
  All
• 30:12
  hands
• 30:12
  on
• 30:12
  deck.
• 30:13
  Where
• 30:14
  reflection
• 30:15
  fuels
• 30:15
  direction
• 30:16
  and
• 30:17
  our
• 30:17
  shared
• 30:17
  humanity
• 30:18
  remains
• 30:18
  the
• 30:19
  true
• 30:19
  north
• 30:20
  of
• 30:20
  everything
• 30:20
  we
• 30:21
  do.
• 30:22
  Until
• 30:22
  next
• 30:22
  time,
• 30:23
  Remember,
• 30:23
  keep
• 30:24
  your
• 30:24
  doors
• 30:24
  open
• 30:25
  and
• 30:25
  your
• 30:25
  hearts
• 30:26
  even
• 30:26
  wider.
• 30:33
  Sam.