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Worst Oval Office Meeting w a Ukraine President-And the Award goes To · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: So let's just deal with the elephant in the room
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Speaker 1: for many around the world that are now trying to
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Speaker 1: figure out what they're gonna do with a guy named Zolensky.
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Speaker 1: Zolensky came to the White House to meet with the
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Speaker 1: President of United States of America, then the Vice President,
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Speaker 1: and they were supposed to be talking about getting a
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Speaker 1: peace deal done. What did Zelenski do? He came into
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Speaker 1: the Oval office and he tried to dictate to Donald
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Speaker 1: Trump that they need to give him more money. It
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Speaker 1: didn't go well. You've probably seen the video. If you
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Speaker 1: have not, I want to play for you the audio
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Speaker 1: just to remind many of you of how rude and
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Speaker 1: how incredibly arrogant Zolensky was to come in after already
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Speaker 1: receiving three hundred and fifty billion, admitting that he doesn't
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Speaker 1: know where half of it went, and clearly coming to
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Speaker 1: the White House claiming he wanted a peace deal when
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Speaker 1: he just wanted more money to continue to fight an
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Speaker 1: endless war, a war by the way, that many in
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Speaker 1: Ukraine are in fact getting rich off of the influx
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Speaker 1: of money coming in. Now the President has made it
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Speaker 1: clear he wants there to be a deal for peace,
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Speaker 1: to stop the senseless killing of innocent people on both sides.
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Speaker 1: The President thinks this war is a terrible war and
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Speaker 1: there aren't yes, entirely, too many people that are dying,
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Speaker 1: and there doesn't seem to be end in sight either.
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Speaker 1: Zelensky is loving the power and the fame coming from
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Speaker 1: this war. It has made him a household name worldwide,
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Speaker 1: and he also has become a darling of the media worldwide.
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Speaker 1: He's on the cover of Vanny Fair. He was appearing,
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Speaker 1: if you remember, in the award shows, and Hollywood was
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Speaker 1: clapping in everyone wanted to get their picture taken with him.
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Speaker 1: He came to d C when the Democrats were in
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Speaker 1: charge and addressed Congress and was a quote rock star.
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Speaker 2: Many believed.
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Speaker 1: Well, now the president says, we're not doing that anymore,
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Speaker 1: and I want you to hear. This is the two
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Speaker 1: minute version of the conversation, an incredibly important one that
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Speaker 1: very well may undo. Zolensky, take a listen.
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Speaker 3: I'm talking about the kind of diplomacy that's going to
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Speaker 3: end the destruction of your country. Yes, but if you President,
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Speaker 3: with respect, I think it's disrespectful for you to come
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Speaker 3: into the Oval Office to try to litigate this in
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Speaker 3: front of the American media. Right now, you guys are
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Speaker 3: going around and forcing conscripts to the front lines because
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Speaker 3: you have manpower problems. You should be thanking the president
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Speaker 3: for having to bring it into this poem Ukraine that
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Speaker 3: you say, what problems we have? I have been to Well,
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Speaker 3: come on, I've actually I've actually watched and seen the stories,
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Speaker 3: and I know what happens is you bring people, you
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Speaker 3: bring them on a propaganda tour. Mister president, are do
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Speaker 3: you disagree that you've had problems bringing people in your military?
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Speaker 3: And do you think that it's respectful to come to
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Speaker 3: the Oval Office of the United States of America and
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Speaker 3: attack the administration that is trying to trying to prevent
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Speaker 3: the structure of your cot.
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Speaker 4: Of a lot of questions. Let's heart from the beginning.
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Speaker 2: First of all, during the.
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Speaker 3: War, everybody has problems, even you. But you have nice
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Speaker 3: ocean and don't feel now, but you will feel it
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Speaker 3: in the future.
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Speaker 5: Bless you don't know, God, bless you're not blessed. You
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Speaker 5: don't know. You don't tell us what we're gonna feel.
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Speaker 5: We're trying to solve a problem. Don't tell us what
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Speaker 5: we're gonna feel.
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Speaker 2: I'm not telling you because you're in.
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Speaker 5: No position to dictate that. Remember this, you know you're
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Speaker 5: in no position to dictate what we're gonna feel.
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Speaker 2: We're gonna feel very.
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Speaker 5: Good, feel influenced. We're gonna feel very good and very
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Speaker 5: strong influence. You're right now not in a very good position.
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Speaker 5: You've allowed you.
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Speaker 2: From the very beginning of the war.
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Speaker 5: Not in a good position. You don't have the cards
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Speaker 5: right now with us. You start having cards right now.
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Speaker 5: You don't playing. You're gambling with the lives of millions
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Speaker 5: of people. I think you're gambling with world War three.
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Speaker 5: You're gambling with World War three. And what you're doing
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Speaker 5: is very disrespectful to the country, this country. Far more
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Speaker 5: than a lot of people said they should have.
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Speaker 3: Have. You said thank you once at times you went
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Speaker 3: to Pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in October offers
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Speaker 3: some words of appreciation for the United States of America
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Speaker 3: and the president who's trying to save your country.
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Speaker 2: A president who is trying to save your country. Now,
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Speaker 2: what happened from that meeting.
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Speaker 1: The President of the United States of America obviously knew
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Speaker 1: the intent of Zelenski. His intent was to come in
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Speaker 1: and to attack this administration in front of the cameras
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Speaker 1: and the of office.
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Speaker 2: Now, to be clear, and I think this is really, really,
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Speaker 2: really really important to be clear.
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Speaker 1: World leaders disagree with each other all the time, but
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Speaker 1: what a world leaders do that are different. Real leaders
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Speaker 1: have those disagreements not in front of the American people
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Speaker 1: or the world. They have a unified front in the
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Speaker 1: meeting where the media is there, and then they talk
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Speaker 1: about their differences quietly behind closed doors. They don't litigate
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Speaker 1: it in the media. I'll give you an example of
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Speaker 1: this that I think is actually a really important example.
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Speaker 2: This is a moment that took place.
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Speaker 1: Where you had the President of the United States of
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Speaker 1: America meeting and having a press conference with the UK's
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Speaker 1: Prime Minister Starmer, who came over to the US about desire.
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Speaker 1: It came about making Canada the fitty first state, with
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Speaker 1: Steiner saying and the media was trying to get a
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Speaker 1: riff between the UK and the press, and the media
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Speaker 1: was hoping that there would be the bait that was
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Speaker 1: taken here right and that there would somehow they could
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Speaker 1: walk out of the saying going, oh, a UK and
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Speaker 1: America on edge with one another. I want you to
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Speaker 1: listen to what real diplomacy sounds like. By the way,
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Speaker 1: Starmer is a guy that I don't think actually likes
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Speaker 1: Trump that much. The UK right now and what they're
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Speaker 1: doing cracking down on free speech, arresting people for things
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Speaker 1: they post online that they disagree with. When it comes
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Speaker 1: to the issue of free speech, these are two leaders
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Speaker 1: that disagree.
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Speaker 2: On a lot of things right now.
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Speaker 1: Starmar, I'm sure would have loved to have had Joe
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Speaker 1: Biden win reelection, but he understands how important it is
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Speaker 1: for the two countries to work together and certainly publicly
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Speaker 1: listen to his words today.
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Speaker 6: You told me that you believe that foreign countries pay tariffs,
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Speaker 6: but Americans who are concerned.
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Speaker 2: About higher prices.
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Speaker 6: Believe, as most people do, that they're paid by consumers
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Speaker 6: and importers when they import things into this country. Can
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Speaker 6: you explain how you came to this belief that foreign
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Speaker 6: governments are paying tariffs?
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Speaker 3: And for the Prime.
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Speaker 6: Minister, did you discuss with President Trump his repeated statements
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Speaker 6: of desire to annex Canada And has the King expressed
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Speaker 6: any concern over the President's apparent desire to remove one
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Speaker 6: of his realms from his.
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Speaker 1: Control Right By the way, notice this reporter, this is
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Speaker 1: a clear.
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Speaker 2: I got you moment.
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Speaker 1: It is trying to drive a wedge between the President
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Speaker 1: of the United States of America and the Prime Minister
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Speaker 1: in Ukraine. It is obvious that this question is outloaded.
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Speaker 1: They're wanting a headline of a riff. They're wanting a disagreement.
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Speaker 1: And when you deal with real diplomacy, and you are
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Speaker 1: a real world leader, you learned very quickly when these
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Speaker 1: types of questions are being asked, and how to make
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Speaker 1: sure that you don't walk in and give the media
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Speaker 1: what they want. And what I would refer to is
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Speaker 1: nothing more than a booby trap, that's.
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Speaker 2: All it is.
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Speaker 1: And not only did the President see it coming, but
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Speaker 1: you clearly had the Prime minister. He knew, like, we're
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Speaker 1: not dumb, we understand what's about to happen, we understand
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Speaker 1: where this is going.
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Speaker 2: Minister was asked a loaded question about America, mentioning candis
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Speaker 2: should become the fifty first state and try to use
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Speaker 2: that question to draw it to get the UK Prime
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Speaker 2: Minister to criticize the President. And I want you to
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Speaker 2: listen to how he handled, because this is what real
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Speaker 2: diplomats do, like, this is what real world leaders act
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Speaker 2: like when they're in a meeting. They don't in front
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Speaker 2: of the press.
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Speaker 1: Now, they may have different disagreements behind closed doors, but
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Speaker 1: they sure as hell don't do it in the public.
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Speaker 2: So I'll go ahead the first part.
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Speaker 7: The tariffs are necessary because we've been treated very unfairly
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Speaker 7: by many many countries, including our friends, friend Info. But
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Speaker 7: I will tell you it's going to make our country
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Speaker 7: rich and it's going to stop us from being a
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Speaker 7: laughing stock all over the world because we have been
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Speaker 7: taken advantage of like no country has ever been taken
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Speaker 7: an advantage of.
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Speaker 2: Thank you very much.
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Speaker 4: And look, we had a really good discussion, of productive discussion,
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Speaker 4: a good discussion as a results of which our teams
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Speaker 4: are not going to be working together on an economic deal.
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Speaker 4: Our team is going to be working together all in
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Speaker 4: security in Ukraine. You mentioned Canada. I think you're trying
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Speaker 4: to find a divide between us that doesn't exist with
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Speaker 4: the closest of nations. And we had very good discussions today,
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Speaker 4: but we didn't thank you.
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Speaker 1: I mean, he called out the reporter. You hear what
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Speaker 1: he said there let's just rewind that. Listen to the
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Speaker 1: brilliance of what the Prime Minister said. He's like, dude,
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Speaker 1: I'm a pro. You guys are trying to make up
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Speaker 1: controversy here that doesn't exist.
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Speaker 2: I'm not going to be a part of it.
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Speaker 4: Working together all in security in Ukraine you mentioned Canada.
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Speaker 4: I think you're trying to find a divide between us
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Speaker 4: that doesn't exist with the closest of nations, and we
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Speaker 4: had very good discussions today, but we are.
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Speaker 2: The closest of nations now.
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Speaker 1: Do I believe there was some disagreements behind the scenes, Absolutely,
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Speaker 1: I have no doubt they had some disagreements behind the scenes.
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Speaker 1: I have no doubt they disagreed on Zelensky for example,
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Speaker 1: in UK funding, I have no doubt we've seen this
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Speaker 1: from Zelensky hauling it to the UK to ten Downing
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Speaker 1: Street begging for money since America said like we're closed
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Speaker 1: for business right now. We're in favor of peace. Like
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Speaker 1: we are in favor of peace. We are not in
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Speaker 1: favor of anarchy. We're not in favor of chaos. We're
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Speaker 1: not in favor of what you are talking about right now,
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Speaker 1: which is just taking more money from us with zero accountability.
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Speaker 2: That is what we are not in favor of.
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Speaker 1: And that's what America said, is Zelensky like, you're not
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Speaker 1: getting another dime from us until you are moving towards peace.
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Speaker 1: We've already given you a ton, and there's no indication
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Speaker 1: that you're working or advocating or supporting the idea of
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Speaker 1: ending this war.
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Speaker 2: We want this war to end.
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Speaker 1: By the way, we're no longer just going to rine
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Speaker 1: unlimited amount of checks for whatever the hell you need
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Speaker 1: when you can't even account for fifty percent of the money,
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Speaker 1: which is also a major problem. The American people deserve answers.
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Speaker 1: And by the way, that was part of where the
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Speaker 1: minerals deal was coming up, like with the American taxpayers
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Speaker 1: need to be paid back, and how do we do that.
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Speaker 1: By the way, most of Europe, they their deals are
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Speaker 1: all about getting paid back. America, we get taken advantage of,
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Speaker 1: as the President said, and we are stupid, I should say,
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Speaker 1: Biden Harris, We're stupid. And what happened with Biden Harris
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Speaker 1: the complete opposite of.
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Speaker 2: Taking care of the taxpayers.
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Speaker 1: We've just been giving money away left and right, over
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Speaker 1: and over, day after day, week after week, month after month.
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Speaker 1: Three hundred and fifty plus million is what we have
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Speaker 1: given to Ukraine, and countless amounts of ammunition and military
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Speaker 1: equipment that we cannot there's no accounting for it. We
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Speaker 1: have no idea where it is, we have no idea
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Speaker 1: what's been done with it. We don't know if any
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Speaker 1: of it's been sold on the black market. There's been
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Speaker 1: accusations in the last twenty four hours of that being
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Speaker 1: a problem as well. And so what did Zelenski do
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Speaker 1: after he realized he screwed up? He went on Brett
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Speaker 1: Behar's show on Fox and tried to quasi apologize into backtrack. Okay,
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Speaker 1: that was something that we saw, and it was a
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Speaker 1: sad moment. It really really was, because you could see
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Speaker 1: that he realized at that point after the meeting, Okay,
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Speaker 1: maybe you did this wrong. His phone, I'm sure, blew
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Speaker 1: up from people back in Ukraine saying what the hell
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Speaker 1: are you doing?
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Speaker 2: Staff saying what the hell are you doing.
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Speaker 1: You don't go in the White House and start dictating
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Speaker 1: the president the way you just did.
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Speaker 2: You don't have any of the cards the President put.
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Speaker 1: He's absolutely right to walk in here and start dictating
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Speaker 1: in us and demanding what you know what you're gonna
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Speaker 1: do or what we're supposed to do for you, like
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Speaker 1: we're not doing that here. Okay, that's that's a large
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Speaker 1: part of this number one. But now he's in a
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Speaker 1: situation where he's got to go around the world and
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Speaker 1: back again because America said no. And by the way,
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Speaker 1: the President also said, you're more than welcome to come
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Speaker 1: back to the White House, and we will. We will
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Speaker 1: bring you in when you're ready to talk about a
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Speaker 1: piece deal. That's a really important part of this conversation.
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Speaker 1: When you're ready to talk about peace, then you're that
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Speaker 1: you have an open invitation to come back in. This
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Speaker 1: is the this is the problem when when America is
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Speaker 1: weak under the last president of the United States of America,
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Speaker 1: we got taken advantage of to the tune of three
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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty plus billion. I said billion, three hundred
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Speaker 1: and fifty plus billion of your tax dollars going to Zelenski,
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Speaker 1: a guy that has no intent apparently on actually saving
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Speaker 1: his country from this type of anarchy. By the way,
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Speaker 1: he also suspended elections. It's an important point that should
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Speaker 1: be brought up. Now, let's talk about Russia real quick,
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Speaker 1: because I also think Russia and what is going on
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Speaker 1: with Russia is also very important.
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Speaker 2: Do I like Russia?
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Speaker 3: No?
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Speaker 2: I hate him. Do I like Putin?
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Speaker 5: No?
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Speaker 2: I hate him.
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Speaker 1: Do I think that Vladimir Putin is a scumbag pos
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Speaker 1: that kills his political opponents?
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 1: Do I think he's killed his own people yes? And
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Speaker 1: tortures people yes. Do I think it's barbaric and inhumane?
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Speaker 1: And I would argue war crimes that he's sending extremely
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Speaker 1: wounded soldiers back to the front lines. Yes, that's all
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Speaker 1: the more reason why I want a deal done. There
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Speaker 1: are kind and good people in Russia that are being
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Speaker 1: used as like a napkin that you just throw away
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Speaker 1: after you wipe your face, toilet paper after you wipe
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Speaker 1: your ables. He doesn't care about his people. He doesn't
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Speaker 1: care about having them die. He doesn't care how many
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Speaker 1: of them are injured, he doesn't care how many their
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Speaker 1: lives have been ruined.
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Speaker 2: Because he's Vladimir.
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Speaker 1: Putin, He's spawn of Satan in my opinion. But Zelensky
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Speaker 1: has to understand that you need to get a deal
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Speaker 1: done for there to be peace, and the way that
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Speaker 1: he came in the White House was not about any
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Speaker 1: of that. It was give me more money, and then
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Speaker 1: that might disappear and go to other people. Give me
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Speaker 1: more money, and I'm going to buy and do and
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Speaker 1: hook up my friends and family and colleagues with all
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Speaker 1: of this cast that's rolling in and equipment that's rolling in.
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Speaker 1: This is the reason why so many Americans are now
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Speaker 1: waking up going, hey, we're not here to fund endless wars.
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Speaker 1: And by the way, if you desperately need this money,
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Speaker 1: then let's make a deal. Let's make a deal on
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Speaker 1: minerals and we'll expand that. And so the American people
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Speaker 1: are not paying for your.
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Speaker 2: War that you can't afford.
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Speaker 1: At the end of the day is the present. You
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Speaker 1: notice that, by the way, when America stops being a sucker,
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Speaker 1: other people are more than happy to step up to
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Speaker 1: the plate, Like when we stop giving money to the
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Speaker 1: UN or to NATO or to Zelenski. There are other
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Speaker 1: nations that do one of two things. Either they drop
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Speaker 1: out with us. They're like, well, yeah, if they're not in,
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Speaker 1: We're out, or they're like, all right, well, we got
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Speaker 1: to step up now because America's basically wasted enough of
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Speaker 1: their money and we believe in this issue more than
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Speaker 1: they do, so we'll step up. Or maybe they just think,
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Speaker 1: all right, it's our turn to step up, so we're
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Speaker 1: gonna deal with it now. I'm going to give you
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Speaker 1: an example of this. There are two different headlines right now,
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Speaker 1: and one of them is from MPR Europe and it
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Speaker 1: says uk France and Ukraine agree to work on ceasefire
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Speaker 1: plan for Russia's war in Ukraine. So all of a sudden,
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Speaker 1: uk France and the Ukraine are like, all right, let's
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Speaker 1: get a deal done for a ceasefire. Because now Zelenski's like,
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Speaker 1: America is not going to just send me blank checks
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Speaker 1: for three hundred and fifty billion more dollars over what
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Speaker 1: they've already sent me.
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Speaker 2: So he's understanding, now the screw up.
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Speaker 1: And what did he do when America said no more,
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Speaker 1: and when the President said you're not getting another dime,
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Speaker 1: and when he realized that Congress is not going to
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Speaker 1: vote to send him a bunch of more money because
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Speaker 1: it's very unpopular with the US right now and the
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Speaker 1: American voter, especially in light of Elon Muskin, Doge and
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Speaker 1: Trump and everything else.
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Speaker 2: So what did he do?
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Speaker 1: He immediately ran to Europe. He ran to the UK,
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Speaker 1: he ran to ten Downing Street, he ran to France.
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Speaker 1: He's like, all right, guys, like, look, I may whether
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Speaker 1: he admitted he screwed up in America or not. He's like, hey,
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Speaker 1: they're not giving me any more money. You guys don't
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Speaker 1: want Russia expansion. You understand what that looks like. And
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Speaker 1: he did the fear mongering thing with them, and so
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Speaker 1: he's like, hey, can you guys start writing me a
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Speaker 1: blank check now? And it looks like France in the
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Speaker 1: UK are totally fine with that, which, by the way,
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Speaker 1: it may be more of their interests for Zolensky to
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Speaker 1: make to stand up to Russia. They're in a different
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Speaker 1: part of the world. They have different definitions of success
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Speaker 1: and failure when it comes to this. But this other
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Speaker 1: headline says Britain and France Ukraine agree to work on
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Speaker 1: a ceasefire plan to present to the United States.
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Speaker 2: Oh so, hold on a second, you.
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Speaker 1: Still admit that the United States are the biggest player here,
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Speaker 1: and what France in the UK may have actually done
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Speaker 1: is said to them, Hey, guys, we can't bankroll you
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Speaker 1: the way that America has Zolensky, So you need to
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Speaker 1: figure out a ceasefire. What we will do, because we
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Speaker 1: want you to be successful, is will help broker this
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Speaker 1: deal with Trump since you screwed it up so ly.
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Speaker 1: And so the Britain Prime Minister, who by the way,
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Speaker 1: is a hard core lefty all right, who is arresting
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Speaker 1: people for things they write on social media. So don't
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Speaker 1: get excited about the Prime minister starmer at all. This
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Speaker 1: guy is not pro free speech. He's not pro the
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Speaker 1: people in any capacity. So before you start praising him,
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Speaker 1: look at what he's actually doing in his country.
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Speaker 2: So let's throw that out.
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Speaker 1: There is an aside here just so you understand the
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Speaker 1: real landscape of the people we're dealing with. But what
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Speaker 1: the Prime minister said was is he prepared to host
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Speaker 1: a summit of European leaders discussed ending the war. The
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Speaker 1: summit has been overshadowed by the scolding. This is how
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Speaker 1: the European press put it. By US President Donald Trump
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Speaker 1: of Zelensky at the White House on Friday after being
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Speaker 1: ungreat for US supporting Ukraine's battle against the invasion of Russia,
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Speaker 1: which he absolutely was. It was like, hey, how dare
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Speaker 1: you not give me even more money after the three
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Speaker 1: hundred fifty billion you've already given me an aid? What
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Speaker 1: are you guys doing? You need to give me more?
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Speaker 1: So what did Starmer, the UK Prime Minister do. He
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Speaker 1: focused quote on being a bridge to restore peace talks
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Speaker 1: and he used the collapse of those talks as an
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Speaker 1: opportunity to re engage with Trump and Zelensky and the
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Speaker 1: French President Macrone rather than ramp up the rhetoric.
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Speaker 2: Quote We've now agreed.
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Speaker 1: That the United Kingdom, along with France and possibly one
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Speaker 1: or two others, will work with Ukraine on a plan
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Speaker 1: to stop the fighting, and then we'll discuss the plan
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Speaker 1: with the United States, is what Starmar told the BBC.
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Speaker 1: The Prime Minister and Macrone have both spoken to Trump
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Speaker 1: since Friday. They also confirmed in the meeting. Sunday's meeting,
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Speaker 1: they said quote is an important step. The London meeting
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Speaker 1: was taken on greater importance in defending the war torn
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Speaker 1: ally and shoring.
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Speaker 2: Up the continent's defenses.
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Speaker 1: Sunday summit is likely to include talks on establishing a
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Speaker 1: European military force to be sent to Ukraine to under
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Speaker 1: underpin a ceasefire.
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Speaker 2: Starmar said it would involve a coalition of the willing.
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Speaker 1: By the way, there's no indication in America would be
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Speaker 1: a part of that, and I don't want to send
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Speaker 1: troops to Ukraine.
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Speaker 2: I just want to be clear about that.
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Speaker 1: Starmar said, does not trust Russian President Putin, by the way,
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Speaker 1: neither does America, but does trust Trump, saying quote, I
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Speaker 1: do believe Donald Trump when he says he wants lasting peace.
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Speaker 2: The answer to this is yes, he said.
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Speaker 1: Today, Starmers said there are intense discussions to get a
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Speaker 1: security guarantee from the US as one of the three
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Speaker 1: components for a lasting peace if.
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Speaker 2: There is a deal.
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Speaker 1: If there is to be a deal, the PM said,
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Speaker 1: if there is to be a stopping of the fighting,
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Speaker 1: then that agreement has to be defended because the worst
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Speaker 1: of all outcomes is that there is a temporary pause
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Speaker 1: in Russia. Putin comes again. Starmar said, this has happened
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Speaker 1: in the past, and I think it is a real risk,
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Speaker 1: and that is why we must ensure that if there's
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Speaker 1: a deal, it's a lasting deal not a temporary pause.
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Speaker 1: So to be clear, even the Prime Minister of the
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Speaker 1: Ukraine Kane understand or i should say of England understands
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Speaker 1: that you're an idiot for the way that you talk
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Speaker 1: to America in the Oval Office and the President Trump,
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Speaker 1: because you guys can't even get this deal done for
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Speaker 1: peace without America giving you security that you need around
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Speaker 1: the peace deal. Like when you add all that up,
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Speaker 1: now you understand just how idiotic this meeting was. Now
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Speaker 1: the meeting at Lancaster House is an important one. It's
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Speaker 1: near Buckingham Palace. It's obvious that Starmar's trying to get
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Speaker 1: this all back on the table. The summit will include
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Speaker 1: leaders from France, Germany, Denmark, Italy, the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Spain, Canada, Finland, Sweden,
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Speaker 1: the jez Republic in Romania, the Turkish Foreign Minister, Native
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Speaker 1: Security Secretary General and President of the European Commission, and
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Speaker 1: the European Council will also a notice America is not there.
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Speaker 1: Why is America not there? Because we don't want to
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Speaker 1: take the lead, because taking the lead costs us even
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Speaker 1: more money. So let me give you another headline, BBC,
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Speaker 1: you can France to present Ukraine peace plan to Trump
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Speaker 1: and help financially with a deal for Ukraine. Again, France
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Speaker 1: and England are saying they want to step up on
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Speaker 1: a security deal.
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Speaker 2: Great, Like I love that you.
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Speaker 1: Guys need to start writing checks because we've written three
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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty billion worth. In my opinion, we should
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Speaker 1: be done unless there is real peace that we can
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Speaker 1: get our hands on. Now, if we're giving money to
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Speaker 1: give them defensive weapons for peace, that's a little different.
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Speaker 1: But I still, by the way, don't think we should
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Speaker 1: pay for as taxpayers think we should do the minerals deal. Hey,
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Speaker 1: we'll help get minerals out of your country, and that's
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Speaker 1: how we're going to pay back the American tax and
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Speaker 1: we're going to have to be a part of that process.
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Speaker 1: Like I'm sick and tired of just sending my tax
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Speaker 1: dollars all over the world when there are places that
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Speaker 1: have natural resources that we should be able to say,
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Speaker 1: you're going to pay us back this way. Another example
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Speaker 1: is this is what we've never done in the Middle East,
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Speaker 1: and we should have done it multiple times, which is, hey,
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Speaker 1: we'll come in and help protect and defend, but we
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Speaker 1: got to get our money back, and that's going to
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Speaker 1: be through oil sales. We don't do that. Donald Trump's like,
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Speaker 1: that's stupid. The American people shouldn't be paying for all
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Speaker 1: of this, and The's exactly right in the way he's
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Speaker 1: doing it. So notice all these countries, they're all meeting,
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Speaker 1: and to be clear, this is what I refer to
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Speaker 1: as a freak out meeting. They realize the president is
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Speaker 1: screwing around and that's why so many in America voted
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Speaker 1: for Donald Trump. So he's saying, good luck. You want peace,
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