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Drift Detected: Unpacking the Hidden Challenges in Education · The Wheelhouse

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  What
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  if
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  the
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  biggest
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  problem
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  in
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  education
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  isn't
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  what
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  we're
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  doing,
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  but
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  what
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  we're
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  slowly
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  becoming?
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  We
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  don't
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  talk
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  about
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  it
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  this
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  way,
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  but
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  we
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  should.
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  Most
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  systems
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  don't
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  fail
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  all
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  at
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  once.
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  They
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  drift
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  quietly,
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  gradually,
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  systematically.
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  And
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  the
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  truth
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  is,
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  students
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  feel
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  it
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  long
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  before
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  adults
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  admit
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  it.
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  So
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  here's
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  the
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  if
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  we
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  say
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  every
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  student
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  matters,
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  why
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  do
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  so
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  many
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  systems
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  produce
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  experiences
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  that
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  feel
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  fragmented,
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  inconsistent,
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  and
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  impersonal?
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  Today,
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  we
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  flip
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  the
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  script.
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  I'm
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  in
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  the
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  guest
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  seat,
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  and
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  the
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  Wheelhouse
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  team
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  is
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  pressing
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  hard
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  on
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  the
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  one
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  idea
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  that
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  sits
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  underneath
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  every
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  everything
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  we
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  do.
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  Drift.
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  What
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  is
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  it,
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  why
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  it
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  happens,
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  and
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  what
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  it's
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  actually
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  costing
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  the
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  students
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  we
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  serve?
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  This
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  isn't
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  a
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  comfortable
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  conversation,
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  but
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  it
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  might
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  be
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  the
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  most
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  important
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  one.
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  We
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  have
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  A
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  new
• 1:15
  episode
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  of
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  the
• 1:16
  Wheelhouse
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  begins
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  right
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  now.
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  Welcome
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  to
• 1:31
  the
• 1:31
  Wheelhouse,
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  a
• 1:32
  Students
• 1:33
  Matter
• 1:33
  podcast
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  where
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  we
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  navigate
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  the
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  intersection
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  of
• 1:36
  leadership,
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  learning
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  and
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  humanity.
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  I'm
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  Dr.
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  Grant
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  Chandler,
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  and
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  today
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  we're
• 1:43
  doing
• 1:43
  something
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  different.
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  For
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  this
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  three
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  part
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  hiatus
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  series,
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  I'm
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  stepping
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  out
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  of
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  the
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  host
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  role
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  and
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  into
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  the
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  guest
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  seat,
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  which
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  means
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  I
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  don't
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  get
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  to
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  control
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  the
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  conversation.
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  And
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  if
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  I'm
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  being
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  honest,
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  that's
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  exactly
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  how
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  it
• 1:58
  should
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  be.
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  Because
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  the
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  ideas
• 2:00
  behind
• 2:01
  the
• 2:01
  Students
• 2:02
  Matter
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  ecosystem
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  shouldn't
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  just
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  be
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  shared.
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  They
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  should
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  be
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  challenged,
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  stretched,
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  and
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  tested
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  in
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  real
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  time.
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  So
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  today,
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  the
• 2:12
  Wheelhouse
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  team,
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  Kathy
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  Mone,
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  Michael
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  Pipa,
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  and
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  Dr.
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  Alicia
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  Munro,
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  are
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  taking
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  the
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  lead.
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  And
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  we're
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  starting
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  with
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  a
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  word
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  you've
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  heard
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  me
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  use,
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  but
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  maybe
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  haven't
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  fully
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  wrestled
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  with
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  drift.
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  Not
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  as
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  a
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  theory,
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  not
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  as
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  a
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  buzzword,
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  but
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  as
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  a
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  living
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  reality
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  inside
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  schools
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  and
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  systems.
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  What
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  does
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  it
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  actually
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  mean?
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  How
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  do
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  you
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  know
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  it's
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  happening?
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  And
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  here's
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  the
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  uncomfortable
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  part.
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  What
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  if
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  the
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  very
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  systems
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  designed
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  to
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  support
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  students
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  are
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  the
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  ones
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  slowly
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  drifting
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  away
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  from
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  what
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  those
• 2:51
  students
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  actually
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  need?
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  That's
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  where
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  we're
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  going.
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  Let's
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  get
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  oriented.
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  Good
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  morning
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  and
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  welcome
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  to
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  the
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  hiatus
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  episodes.
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  What
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  does
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  the
• 3:07
  Wheelhouse
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  team
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  do
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  on
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  hiatus?
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  Record
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  more
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  episodes.
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  So
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  here
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  we
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  are
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  in
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  our
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  hiatus
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  between
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  seasons
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  12
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  and
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  13,
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  doing
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  what
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  we
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  love
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  to
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  do,
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  which
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  is
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  to
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  come
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  together
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  and
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  talk
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  all
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  things
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  that
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  are
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  important
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  for
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  students.
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  So
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  good
• 3:24
  morning,
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  wheelhouse
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  team.
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  Kathy
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  mone,
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  Michael
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  Pipa,
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  Dr.
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  Alicia
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  Monroe.
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  Hello.
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  Good
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  morning.
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  Good
• 3:32
  morning.
• 3:32
  Good
• 3:32
  morning.
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  Hello,
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  hello,
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  hello.
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  We
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  love
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  getting
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  together.
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  We
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  can't
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  stand
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  being
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  apart.
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  So
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  hiatus,
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  whatever.
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  Hiatus,
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  whatever,
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  whatever.
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  So
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  we
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  have
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  three
• 3:51
  hiatus
• 3:52
  episodes
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  which
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  will
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  launch
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  May
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  19,
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  June
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  2,
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  and
• 3:55
  June
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  16,
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  and
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  then
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  season
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  13
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  will
• 3:58
  officially
• 3:59
  begin
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  on
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  July
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  7.
• 4:01
  But
• 4:01
  we've
• 4:02
  got
• 4:02
  some
• 4:02
  great
• 4:03
  content
• 4:03
  and
• 4:03
  some
• 4:04
  Great
• 4:04
  conversations
• 4:05
  to
• 4:06
  share
• 4:06
  with
• 4:07
  you,
• 4:09
  and
• 4:10
  we're
• 4:10
  flipping
• 4:11
  the
• 4:11
  script.
• 4:12
  So
• 4:13
  today
• 4:13
  and
• 4:13
  in
• 4:13
  the
• 4:14
  next
• 4:14
  two
• 4:14
  episodes,
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  I'm
• 4:16
  going
• 4:16
  to
• 4:16
  be
• 4:16
  in
• 4:16
  the
• 4:17
  hot
• 4:17
  seat
• 4:18
  and
• 4:18
  we're
• 4:18
  going
• 4:19
  to
• 4:19
  talk
• 4:19
  about
• 4:19
  the
• 4:20
  ideas
• 4:20
  behind
• 4:22
  the
• 4:23
  Students
• 4:23
  Matter
• 4:23
  ecosystem.
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  Yeah,
• 4:25
  we're
• 4:25
  really
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  excited
• 4:26
  to
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  put
• 4:27
  you
• 4:28
  in
• 4:28
  the
• 4:28
  hot
• 4:28
  seat.
• 4:29
  I
• 4:29
  don't
• 4:29
  know
• 4:29
  really
• 4:29
  what
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  that
• 4:30
  means
• 4:30
  because,
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  you
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  know,
• 4:32
  this
• 4:32
  is
• 4:34
  kind
• 4:34
  of
• 4:34
  always
• 4:34
  there,
• 4:35
  but
• 4:36
  we
• 4:36
  get
• 4:36
  to
• 4:36
  really
• 4:37
  push
• 4:38
  and
• 4:38
  ask
• 4:38
  questions
• 4:39
  of
• 4:40
  you,
• 4:40
  Dr.
• 4:41
  Chandler.
• 4:41
  So
• 4:43
  we're
• 4:43
  ready.
• 4:44
  Have.
• 4:44
  We
• 4:45
  have
• 4:45
  been
• 4:45
  preparing
• 4:46
  for
• 4:46
  this.
• 4:46
  So
• 4:48
  I'm
• 4:48
  just
• 4:48
  going
• 4:48
  to
• 4:48
  dive
• 4:49
  right
• 4:49
  in
• 4:49
  if
• 4:49
  that's
• 4:49
  okay
• 4:50
  with
• 4:50
  you.
• 4:50
  You're.
• 4:51
  You're
• 4:51
  ready.
• 4:53
  We
• 4:53
  really
• 4:54
  want
• 4:54
  to
• 4:54
  understand
• 4:55
  this,
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  this
• 4:57
  idea
• 4:57
  of
• 4:57
  drift.
• 4:58
  You've
• 4:59
  been
• 5:00
  using
• 5:00
  this
• 5:00
  word
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  a
• 5:01
  lot
• 5:02
  and
• 5:02
  putting
• 5:03
  it
• 5:03
  in
• 5:04
  conversations
• 5:06
  with
• 5:06
  guests
• 5:07
  and
• 5:08
  during
• 5:08
  the
• 5:08
  time
• 5:09
  that
• 5:09
  the
• 5:09
  four
• 5:09
  of
• 5:09
  us
• 5:09
  been.
• 5:10
  Have
• 5:10
  been
• 5:10
  together.
• 5:11
  So
• 5:11
  we
• 5:12
  really
• 5:12
  don't
• 5:12
  want
• 5:12
  to
• 5:12
  dance
• 5:13
  around
• 5:13
  it.
• 5:13
  We
• 5:14
  want
• 5:14
  you
• 5:14
  to.
• 5:15
  To
• 5:15
  dig
• 5:15
  in
• 5:16
  and
• 5:16
  tell
• 5:16
  us
• 5:16
  what
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  is
• 5:17
  drift?
• 5:18
  What
• 5:18
  is
• 5:18
  it
• 5:19
  really?
• 5:21
  So
• 5:22
  drift
• 5:22
  comes
• 5:23
  from
• 5:23
  the
• 5:23
  work
• 5:23
  of
• 5:23
  tactical
• 5:24
  leadership.
• 5:25
  So
• 5:26
  as
• 5:26
  that
• 5:27
  whole
• 5:27
  leadership
• 5:27
  framework
• 5:28
  was
• 5:28
  evolving,
• 5:29
  one
• 5:29
  of
• 5:29
  the
• 5:29
  ideas
• 5:30
  that
• 5:31
  comes
• 5:31
  up
• 5:31
  over
• 5:31
  and
• 5:32
  over
• 5:32
  and
• 5:32
  over
• 5:33
  again
• 5:33
  is
• 5:34
  this.
• 5:34
  And
• 5:34
  I
• 5:34
  think
• 5:34
  it's
• 5:35
  a
• 5:35
  beautiful
• 5:35
  word.
• 5:35
  Drift.
• 5:36
  Right?
• 5:36
  I
• 5:36
  think
• 5:37
  it's,
• 5:37
  you
• 5:37
  know,
• 5:38
  we
• 5:38
  use
• 5:38
  a
• 5:38
  maritime
• 5:39
  metaphor
• 5:41
  in
• 5:41
  the
• 5:41
  work
• 5:42
  of
• 5:42
  Students
• 5:42
  Matter
• 5:43
  and
• 5:43
  all
• 5:44
  of
• 5:44
  the
• 5:44
  work.
• 5:44
  But
• 5:45
  I
• 5:45
  think
• 5:46
  you
• 5:46
  picture
• 5:47
  first,
• 5:47
  you
• 5:47
  picture
• 5:48
  what
• 5:48
  happens
• 5:49
  when
• 5:49
  a
• 5:49
  ship
• 5:49
  drips.
• 5:50
  It's
• 5:51
  out
• 5:51
  in
• 5:51
  the
• 5:51
  middle
• 5:51
  of
• 5:52
  water,
• 5:52
  and
• 5:52
  it's
• 5:53
  just
• 5:53
  kind
• 5:53
  of.
• 5:55
  It's
• 5:55
  not
• 5:55
  heading
• 5:55
  toward
• 5:56
  anywhere.
• 5:56
  It's
• 5:56
  just
• 5:56
  kind
• 5:57
  of
• 5:57
  moving
• 5:57
  right
• 5:58
  wherever
• 5:58
  the
• 5:58
  wind
• 5:59
  takes
• 5:59
  it.
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  So
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  I
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  think
• 6:00
  the
• 6:00
  image
• 6:01
  metaphorically
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  is
• 6:02
  really
• 6:03
  powerful
• 6:03
  for
• 6:03
  what
• 6:03
  happens
• 6:04
  in
• 6:04
  schools
• 6:05
  every
• 6:06
  single
• 6:06
  day.
• 6:07
  But,
• 6:07
  hey,
• 6:07
  we
• 6:08
  had
• 6:08
  to
• 6:08
  land
• 6:08
  the
• 6:08
  plane
• 6:08
  on
• 6:08
  a
• 6:09
  definition.
• 6:10
  So
• 6:10
  here
• 6:10
  is
• 6:11
  the
• 6:11
  definition
• 6:12
  that
• 6:12
  we
• 6:12
  use
• 6:13
  in
• 6:13
  tactical
• 6:14
  leadership.
• 6:14
  And
• 6:15
  we've
• 6:15
  been
• 6:15
  talking
• 6:15
  about.
• 6:15
  I
• 6:16
  mean,
• 6:16
  all
• 6:16
  four
• 6:16
  of
• 6:16
  us
• 6:16
  have
• 6:16
  been
• 6:17
  talking
• 6:17
  about
• 6:17
  it,
• 6:17
  talking
• 6:17
  about
• 6:17
  this
• 6:17
  word
• 6:19
  throughout
• 6:19
  season
• 6:20
  12.
• 6:20
  But
• 6:20
  here,
• 6:21
  for
• 6:21
  the
• 6:21
  very
• 6:21
  first
• 6:22
  time
• 6:23
  in
• 6:23
  the
• 6:23
  wheelhouse
• 6:24
  is
• 6:24
  the.
• 6:24
  Is
• 6:25
  the
• 6:25
  actual
• 6:26
  definition
• 6:27
  from
• 6:27
  tactical
• 6:28
  leadership.
• 6:29
  Drift
• 6:30
  is
• 6:31
  the
• 6:31
  gradual,
• 6:32
  often
• 6:33
  unnoticed
• 6:34
  movement
• 6:35
  away
• 6:36
  from
• 6:36
  purpose,
• 6:37
  clarity,
• 6:38
  and
• 6:39
  intended
• 6:40
  impact
• 6:41
  while
• 6:43
  activity
• 6:44
  continues.
• 6:46
  Drift
• 6:46
  is
• 6:46
  when
• 6:47
  motion
• 6:47
  replaces
• 6:48
  meaning.
• 6:49
  It's
• 6:50
  not
• 6:50
  inactivity.
• 6:52
  It's
• 6:52
  misaligned
• 6:53
  activity
• 6:54
  that
• 6:54
  feels
• 6:55
  productive
• 6:56
  but
• 6:56
  is
• 6:57
  an
• 6:57
  advancing
• 6:57
  purpose.
• 7:00
  So
• 7:00
  with
• 7:01
  that
• 7:01
  said,
• 7:02
  and
• 7:02
  that
• 7:03
  was
• 7:03
  eloquently
• 7:04
  said,
• 7:04
  because
• 7:05
  all
• 7:05
  of
• 7:05
  us
• 7:05
  are
• 7:05
  sitting
• 7:06
  here
• 7:06
  even
• 7:06
  though
• 7:06
  the
• 7:07
  audience
• 7:07
  can't
• 7:07
  see
• 7:08
  us,
• 7:08
  but
• 7:08
  all
• 7:08
  of
• 7:08
  us
• 7:09
  are
• 7:09
  sitting
• 7:09
  here
• 7:09
  nodding
• 7:10
  our
• 7:10
  head
• 7:11
  right
• 7:11
  in
• 7:11
  the
• 7:11
  positive.
• 7:12
  Exactly,
• 7:13
  exactly.
• 7:13
  Because
• 7:14
  it'
• 7:14
  it's
• 7:14
  our
• 7:15
  lived
• 7:15
  experiences
• 7:16
  as
• 7:16
  humans
• 7:17
  and
• 7:17
  systems.
• 7:18
  So,
• 7:18
  Dr.
• 7:19
  Chandler,
• 7:19
  how
• 7:19
  does
• 7:20
  drift
• 7:21
  show
• 7:21
  up
• 7:21
  in
• 7:22
  schools,
• 7:22
  school
• 7:23
  districts
• 7:23
  and
• 7:24
  in
• 7:24
  higher
• 7:24
  ed
• 7:25
  institutions
• 7:25
  because
• 7:26
  we've
• 7:26
  had
• 7:27
  representatives
• 7:28
  from
• 7:29
  all
• 7:29
  of
• 7:29
  those
• 7:29
  spaces
• 7:31
  as
• 7:31
  part
• 7:31
  of
• 7:32
  our
• 7:32
  wheelhouse
• 7:33
  guest
• 7:33
  family.
• 7:35
  So
• 7:35
  how
• 7:35
  does
• 7:36
  it
• 7:36
  show
• 7:36
  up?
• 7:37
  What
• 7:37
  do
• 7:37
  we
• 7:38
  see,
• 7:38
  hear,
• 7:38
  and
• 7:38
  feel
• 7:39
  when
• 7:40
  drift
• 7:40
  is
• 7:40
  happening
• 7:41
  in
• 7:41
  those
• 7:41
  systems?
• 7:42
  So
• 7:42
  I
• 7:42
  think
• 7:42
  one
• 7:43
  of
• 7:43
  the
• 7:43
  things
• 7:43
  we
• 7:43
  see
• 7:43
  and
• 7:44
  I've
• 7:44
  been
• 7:44
  working
• 7:44
  in
• 7:45
  school
• 7:46
  improvement,
• 7:46
  continuous
• 7:47
  improvement,
• 7:48
  forever,
• 7:48
  right?
• 7:49
  Forever.
• 7:50
  Seems
• 7:50
  like.
• 7:51
  And
• 7:51
  feels
• 7:51
  like
• 7:51
  it's
• 7:51
  been
• 7:52
  forever.
• 7:54
  We
• 7:54
  say
• 7:56
  in
• 7:56
  our
• 7:56
  mission
• 7:56
  statements,
• 7:58
  we
• 7:58
  say,
• 7:59
  all
• 7:59
  students,
• 8:00
  all
• 8:00
  students.
• 8:02
  You
• 8:02
  know,
• 8:02
  everybody's
• 8:03
  going
• 8:03
  to.
• 8:03
  Everybody's
• 8:03
  going
• 8:04
  to
• 8:04
  read
• 8:04
  at
• 8:04
  third
• 8:04
  grade.
• 8:05
  Everybody's
• 8:05
  going
• 8:06
  to
• 8:06
  be
• 8:06
  a
• 8:06
  lifelong
• 8:06
  learner.
• 8:07
  All,
• 8:07
  all,
• 8:07
  all,
• 8:07
  all,
• 8:08
  all,
• 8:08
  all,
• 8:08
  all.
• 8:09
  But
• 8:09
  we
• 8:09
  don't
• 8:09
  really.
• 8:11
  When
• 8:11
  we
• 8:11
  think
• 8:11
  about
• 8:12
  it,
• 8:12
  we
• 8:12
  don't
• 8:12
  mean
• 8:13
  all.
• 8:14
  We
• 8:14
  often
• 8:14
  mean
• 8:15
  some.
• 8:17
  And
• 8:18
  sometimes
• 8:18
  the
• 8:19
  sum
• 8:19
  is
• 8:19
  defined
• 8:19
  as
• 8:20
  who,
• 8:20
  right?
• 8:21
  Like,
• 8:21
  who
• 8:21
  matters
• 8:22
  and
• 8:22
  who
• 8:23
  doesn't.
• 8:24
  Who
• 8:25
  really
• 8:25
  needs
• 8:25
  to
• 8:25
  be
• 8:26
  able
• 8:26
  to
• 8:26
  read
• 8:26
  by
• 8:26
  third
• 8:27
  grade?
• 8:27
  And
• 8:27
  who
• 8:27
  do
• 8:27
  we
• 8:27
  really
• 8:28
  expect
• 8:28
  that
• 8:28
  isn't
• 8:28
  gonna
• 8:29
  be
• 8:29
  reading
• 8:29
  by
• 8:29
  third
• 8:30
  grade?
• 8:30
  Right?
• 8:31
  And
• 8:31
  so
• 8:31
  right
• 8:32
  away,
• 8:32
  you've
• 8:33
  got
• 8:33
  these
• 8:33
  amazing
• 8:34
  plans
• 8:35
  that
• 8:35
  are
• 8:35
  already
• 8:36
  producing
• 8:37
  drift.
• 8:37
  We're
• 8:38
  moving
• 8:38
  away
• 8:38
  from
• 8:39
  purpose.
• 8:40
  We
• 8:40
  don't
• 8:40
  even
• 8:40
  really
• 8:41
  realize,
• 8:43
  because
• 8:43
  with
• 8:44
  good
• 8:44
  intentions,
• 8:44
  we
• 8:45
  say,
• 8:45
  oh,
• 8:45
  every
• 8:46
  student,
• 8:46
  every
• 8:47
  student,
• 8:47
  every
• 8:47
  student.
• 8:48
  And
• 8:48
  then
• 8:48
  we
• 8:48
  write
• 8:49
  plans
• 8:49
  that
• 8:49
  say,
• 8:49
  well,
• 8:49
  we
• 8:50
  want
• 8:50
  a
• 8:50
  3%
• 8:51
  increase
• 8:52
  from
• 8:53
  this
• 8:53
  year
• 8:53
  to
• 8:54
  next
• 8:54
  year.
• 8:54
  Well,
• 8:55
  that
• 8:56
  moves
• 8:56
  us
• 8:56
  away
• 8:57
  from
• 8:57
  our
• 8:57
  destination,
• 8:58
  does
• 8:58
  it
• 8:59
  not?
• 8:59
  We're
• 8:59
  going
• 9:00
  to
• 9:00
  be
• 9:00
  super
• 9:00
  busy,
• 9:01
  but
• 9:01
  that's
• 9:01
  going
• 9:01
  to
• 9:02
  move
• 9:02
  us
• 9:02
  away
• 9:03
  from
• 9:03
  what
• 9:04
  the
• 9:04
  real
• 9:04
  destination
• 9:05
  and
• 9:05
  purpose
• 9:06
  is.
• 9:06
  And
• 9:06
  tactical
• 9:07
  leadership
• 9:07
  is
• 9:08
  all
• 9:08
  about
• 9:09
  destination
• 9:09
  and
• 9:09
  purpose.
• 9:11
  I
• 9:11
  think
• 9:11
  one
• 9:11
  of
• 9:11
  the
• 9:11
  other
• 9:12
  ways
• 9:13
  that
• 9:13
  come
• 9:13
  to
• 9:13
  mind
• 9:14
  often
• 9:15
  is
• 9:18
  we
• 9:18
  say
• 9:18
  relationships
• 9:19
  are
• 9:19
  the
• 9:20
  most
• 9:20
  important.
• 9:21
  What
• 9:22
  teacher,
• 9:22
  what
• 9:23
  leader
• 9:23
  doesn't
• 9:24
  talk
• 9:24
  about
• 9:25
  the
• 9:25
  power
• 9:26
  of
• 9:26
  relationships
• 9:27
  and
• 9:27
  how
• 9:27
  important
• 9:28
  they
• 9:28
  are
• 9:28
  to
• 9:29
  the
• 9:29
  work?
• 9:29
  And
• 9:30
  yet
• 9:30
  we
• 9:31
  focus
• 9:32
  so
• 9:32
  much
• 9:33
  not
• 9:34
  on
• 9:34
  relationships,
• 9:35
  but
• 9:35
  on
• 9:35
  compliance.
• 9:38
  So
• 9:38
  is
• 9:38
  it
• 9:38
  preventable?
• 9:40
  Absolutely.
• 9:42
  It's
• 9:42
  predictable.
• 9:44
  Let's
• 9:44
  say
• 9:45
  that
• 9:45
  I
• 9:45
  think
• 9:46
  drift
• 9:46
  is
• 9:47
  inevitable.
• 9:48
  What
• 9:48
  we
• 9:49
  do
• 9:49
  when
• 9:49
  we
• 9:49
  know
• 9:50
  we're
• 9:50
  drifting
• 9:51
  is
• 9:51
  where
• 9:51
  it
• 9:52
  becomes
• 9:52
  predictable,
• 9:53
  right?
• 9:54
  Because
• 9:54
  pressure
• 9:55
  happens,
• 9:56
  life
• 9:56
  happens,
• 9:57
  urgency
• 9:57
  happens.
• 9:58
  There
• 9:58
  are
• 9:58
  so
• 9:58
  many
• 9:59
  ways
• 9:59
  that
• 9:59
  you
• 10:00
  can
• 10:00
  drift,
• 10:01
  But
• 10:01
  a
• 10:01
  really
• 10:02
  skillful
• 10:03
  leader
• 10:04
  and
• 10:04
  the
• 10:04
  students
• 10:04
  matter.
• 10:05
  We
• 10:05
  call
• 10:05
  that
• 10:05
  tactical
• 10:05
  leadership,
• 10:06
  and
• 10:06
  we'll
• 10:06
  talk
• 10:06
  about
• 10:06
  that
• 10:07
  in
• 10:07
  another
• 10:07
  episode.
• 10:08
  But
• 10:08
  it's
• 10:09
  about
• 10:09
  recognizing
• 10:10
  when
• 10:10
  drift
• 10:11
  is
• 10:11
  happening,
• 10:14
  right?
• 10:14
  So
• 10:15
  being
• 10:15
  a
• 10:15
  drift
• 10:15
  detector,
• 10:16
  that's
• 10:17
  one
• 10:17
  of
• 10:17
  the
• 10:17
  tools
• 10:17
  that
• 10:17
  we've
• 10:18
  created,
• 10:18
  is
• 10:18
  how
• 10:19
  do
• 10:19
  you
• 10:19
  detect
• 10:19
  drift?
• 10:20
  How
• 10:20
  do
• 10:20
  you
• 10:20
  know?
• 10:21
  How
• 10:21
  do
• 10:21
  you
• 10:21
  know
• 10:22
  when
• 10:22
  you're
• 10:22
  immersed
• 10:23
  in
• 10:23
  all
• 10:23
  of
• 10:23
  this
• 10:24
  work
• 10:24
  that
• 10:24
  we're
• 10:24
  doing?
• 10:25
  I
• 10:25
  mean,
• 10:25
  what
• 10:26
  leader
• 10:26
  isn't
• 10:26
  busy
• 10:26
  24
• 10:27
  hours
• 10:27
  a
• 10:27
  day,
• 10:27
  right?
• 10:28
  How
• 10:28
  do
• 10:28
  you
• 10:28
  know
• 10:29
  in
• 10:29
  the
• 10:29
  midst
• 10:29
  of
• 10:29
  all
• 10:30
  of
• 10:30
  that
• 10:32
  that
• 10:32
  you're
• 10:32
  moving
• 10:32
  away
• 10:33
  from
• 10:33
  purpose.
• 10:33
  And
• 10:33
  if
• 10:34
  you
• 10:34
  remember
• 10:34
  the
• 10:34
  definition
• 10:35
  that
• 10:35
  I
• 10:35
  read,
• 10:36
  drift
• 10:36
  doesn't
• 10:37
  say
• 10:38
  inactivity.
• 10:39
  Drift
• 10:40
  says
• 10:40
  you
• 10:40
  a
• 10:41
  busy,
• 10:41
  busy
• 10:41
  person,
• 10:42
  right?
• 10:43
  But
• 10:43
  all
• 10:43
  that
• 10:44
  busyness.
• 10:45
  And
• 10:45
  we've
• 10:45
  had
• 10:45
  an
• 10:45
  episode
• 10:46
  where
• 10:46
  we
• 10:46
  talked
• 10:46
  about
• 10:46
  busyness
• 10:48
  is
• 10:48
  moving
• 10:48
  us
• 10:49
  away,
• 10:49
  even
• 10:50
  gently,
• 10:50
  right?
• 10:51
  Even
• 10:51
  if
• 10:51
  we
• 10:51
  don't
• 10:51
  notice
• 10:52
  it,
• 10:52
  it's
• 10:52
  moving
• 10:52
  us
• 10:52
  away
• 10:53
  from
• 10:53
  purpose.
• 10:54
  So
• 10:54
  I
• 10:54
  think
• 10:54
  it's
• 10:56
  predictable
• 10:58
  and
• 10:58
  I
• 10:58
  think
• 10:59
  not
• 10:59
  100%
• 11:00
  preventable,
• 11:01
  because
• 11:01
  I
• 11:01
  think
• 11:01
  it
• 11:02
  happens.
• 11:02
  It's
• 11:02
  what
• 11:03
  we
• 11:03
  do
• 11:03
  with
• 11:03
  it.
• 11:03
  When
• 11:03
  we
• 11:03
  know
• 11:04
  that
• 11:04
  we're
• 11:05
  drifting,
• 11:05
  there
• 11:05
  it
• 11:06
  is.
• 11:07
  So
• 11:07
  you've
• 11:07
  really,
• 11:09
  in
• 11:09
  all
• 11:10
  of
• 11:10
  this
• 11:11
  that
• 11:11
  you're,
• 11:11
  you
• 11:12
  know,
• 11:12
  talking
• 11:12
  about
• 11:13
  and
• 11:14
  explaining,
• 11:17
  it
• 11:17
  seems
• 11:17
  to
• 11:17
  me
• 11:18
  like
• 11:18
  there's
• 11:19
  different
• 11:20
  pieces
• 11:20
  of
• 11:21
  that,
• 11:21
  there's
• 11:21
  different
• 11:22
  parts,
• 11:22
  almost
• 11:23
  like
• 11:23
  this
• 11:24
  puzzle
• 11:25
  of
• 11:25
  drift
• 11:26
  that.
• 11:26
  That
• 11:26
  can
• 11:27
  go
• 11:27
  together.
• 11:28
  So
• 11:29
  are
• 11:29
  there
• 11:29
  different
• 11:31
  types
• 11:32
  of
• 11:32
  drift?
• 11:33
  Are
• 11:33
  there
• 11:33
  different
• 11:34
  parts
• 11:34
  of
• 11:35
  that?
• 11:37
  We
• 11:38
  don't
• 11:38
  all
• 11:38
  drift
• 11:38
  in
• 11:38
  the
• 11:38
  same
• 11:39
  way,
• 11:39
  right?
• 11:39
  Every
• 11:39
  organization
• 11:40
  drifts
• 11:41
  differently.
• 11:42
  And
• 11:42
  so
• 11:43
  we've
• 11:43
  defined
• 11:44
  some
• 11:45
  of
• 11:45
  the
• 11:45
  big
• 11:45
  ways.
• 11:46
  I
• 11:47
  think
• 11:47
  there
• 11:47
  are
• 11:47
  five
• 11:47
  that
• 11:48
  we've
• 11:48
  defined
• 11:48
  that
• 11:48
  really
• 11:49
  define
• 11:51
  what
• 11:51
  does
• 11:51
  drift
• 11:51
  look
• 11:52
  like?
• 11:52
  In
• 11:52
  what
• 11:53
  ways
• 11:53
  can
• 11:53
  you
• 11:54
  drift?
• 11:54
  Because
• 11:54
  in
• 11:54
  order
• 11:54
  to
• 11:55
  prevent
• 11:55
  it,
• 11:56
  we
• 11:57
  gotta
• 11:57
  be
• 11:57
  able
• 11:57
  to
• 11:57
  identify
• 11:58
  it,
• 11:58
  right?
• 11:59
  So
• 11:59
  we've,
• 11:59
  again,
• 12:00
  there
• 12:00
  are
• 12:00
  five
• 12:00
  that
• 12:01
  we've
• 12:01
  identified.
• 12:01
  The
• 12:01
  first
• 12:02
  one
• 12:02
  is
• 12:02
  purpose,
• 12:03
  right?
• 12:03
  And
• 12:03
  that
• 12:04
  is
• 12:04
  when
• 12:04
  we
• 12:04
  lose
• 12:05
  sight
• 12:06
  of
• 12:06
  what
• 12:06
  matters,
• 12:07
  right?
• 12:07
  And
• 12:08
  often
• 12:08
  the
• 12:08
  signal
• 12:09
  is
• 12:10
  that
• 12:10
  we,
• 12:10
  you
• 12:10
  know,
• 12:10
  you
• 12:11
  hear
• 12:11
  people
• 12:11
  say
• 12:11
  is
• 12:11
  like,
• 12:12
  so
• 12:12
  why
• 12:12
  are
• 12:12
  we
• 12:12
  doing
• 12:12
  this?
• 12:14
  Right?
• 12:14
  Why
• 12:15
  are
• 12:15
  we
• 12:15
  doing
• 12:15
  why?
• 12:15
  Why
• 12:16
  is.
• 12:16
  Why
• 12:16
  is
• 12:16
  this
• 12:16
  initiative?
• 12:17
  Why
• 12:17
  are
• 12:18
  we
• 12:18
  doing
• 12:18
  this?
• 12:18
  Why
• 12:18
  are
• 12:18
  you
• 12:18
  asking
• 12:19
  me
• 12:19
  to
• 12:19
  do
• 12:19
  this?
• 12:20
  That's
• 12:20
  drift.
• 12:21
  That
• 12:21
  means
• 12:21
  that
• 12:21
  purpose
• 12:22
  isn't
• 12:23
  clear
• 12:23
  and
• 12:24
  we've
• 12:24
  lost
• 12:24
  sight
• 12:25
  of
• 12:25
  why
• 12:25
  we're
• 12:26
  doing
• 12:26
  what
• 12:26
  we're
• 12:26
  doing.
• 12:28
  There's
• 12:28
  also
• 12:28
  interpretation
• 12:29
  drift.
• 12:30
  When
• 12:30
  we
• 12:30
  look
• 12:31
  at
• 12:32
  the
• 12:32
  reality
• 12:32
  of
• 12:33
  a
• 12:33
  situation,
• 12:33
  whether
• 12:33
  that's
• 12:34
  data,
• 12:34
  whether
• 12:35
  that's
• 12:35
  an
• 12:35
  observation,
• 12:37
  and
• 12:37
  you've
• 12:38
  got
• 12:38
  different
• 12:38
  people
• 12:39
  telling
• 12:39
  different
• 12:39
  stories.
• 12:41
  So
• 12:42
  we
• 12:42
  look
• 12:43
  at
• 12:43
  the
• 12:43
  same
• 12:43
  data,
• 12:43
  look
• 12:44
  at
• 12:44
  the
• 12:44
  same
• 12:44
  information,
• 12:45
  but
• 12:45
  the
• 12:46
  story
• 12:46
  plays
• 12:46
  out
• 12:47
  differently
• 12:48
  depending
• 12:48
  on
• 12:48
  who
• 12:49
  you
• 12:49
  ask.
• 12:49
  That
• 12:50
  means
• 12:50
  we're
• 12:50
  interpreting
• 12:51
  it
• 12:52
  differently.
• 12:54
  There's
• 12:54
  action
• 12:55
  drift,
• 12:56
  which
• 12:56
  is
• 12:56
  doing
• 12:57
  work,
• 12:58
  but
• 12:59
  it
• 12:59
  isn't
• 12:59
  aligned
• 12:59
  to
• 12:59
  the
• 13:00
  purpose.
• 13:00
  So
• 13:00
  we're
• 13:01
  doing
• 13:01
  a
• 13:01
  lot
• 13:02
  and
• 13:02
  nothing
• 13:03
  is
• 13:03
  changing.
• 13:03
  You
• 13:04
  know,
• 13:04
  Kathy,
• 13:04
  you
• 13:04
  and
• 13:04
  I
• 13:05
  did
• 13:05
  a
• 13:05
  lot
• 13:05
  of
• 13:05
  work
• 13:06
  with
• 13:06
  data
• 13:06
  analysis,
• 13:07
  and
• 13:07
  one
• 13:07
  of
• 13:08
  the
• 13:08
  things
• 13:08
  we
• 13:08
  kept
• 13:08
  telling
• 13:08
  districts
• 13:09
  over
• 13:09
  and
• 13:09
  over
• 13:09
  again
• 13:10
  was,
• 13:11
  and
• 13:11
  Alicia
• 13:11
  and
• 13:11
  I
• 13:11
  do
• 13:12
  the
• 13:12
  same
• 13:12
  thing.
• 13:12
  It's
• 13:12
  like,
• 13:12
  you
• 13:13
  gotta
• 13:13
  really
• 13:13
  get
• 13:13
  to
• 13:14
  root
• 13:14
  cause,
• 13:15
  because
• 13:16
  if
• 13:16
  you
• 13:16
  don't
• 13:16
  get
• 13:16
  to
• 13:16
  root
• 13:17
  cause,
• 13:17
  you're
• 13:17
  just
• 13:17
  gonna
• 13:17
  spin
• 13:18
  your
• 13:18
  wheels.
• 13:18
  You're
• 13:19
  just
• 13:19
  doing
• 13:19
  a
• 13:19
  lot
• 13:19
  of
• 13:19
  Things,
• 13:20
  but
• 13:20
  it
• 13:20
  won't
• 13:21
  necessarily
• 13:21
  solve
• 13:22
  your
• 13:22
  problem.
• 13:23
  Right.
• 13:23
  And,
• 13:24
  you
• 13:24
  know,
• 13:24
  we
• 13:24
  call
• 13:25
  that
• 13:25
  in
• 13:25
  tactical
• 13:26
  leadership,
• 13:27
  you
• 13:27
  know,
• 13:27
  action
• 13:28
  drift.
• 13:29
  Then
• 13:30
  there's
• 13:30
  the
• 13:30
  human
• 13:31
  drift.
• 13:32
  That's
• 13:32
  when
• 13:32
  we
• 13:33
  lose.
• 13:34
  We
• 13:34
  lose
• 13:34
  connection
• 13:35
  to
• 13:36
  people,
• 13:36
  their
• 13:37
  needs
• 13:37
  and
• 13:37
  their
• 13:37
  experiences.
• 13:38
  We
• 13:38
  often
• 13:39
  see
• 13:39
  people
• 13:40
  disengage
• 13:41
  with
• 13:42
  the
• 13:42
  work
• 13:42
  because
• 13:42
  they
• 13:43
  don't
• 13:43
  feel
• 13:43
  ownership
• 13:44
  in
• 13:45
  the
• 13:45
  work.
• 13:46
  Right.
• 13:46
  So
• 13:48
  they
• 13:48
  just
• 13:48
  kind
• 13:49
  of
• 13:49
  opt
• 13:49
  out
• 13:50
  of
• 13:50
  that.
• 13:51
  And
• 13:51
  then,
• 13:52
  you
• 13:52
  know,
• 13:52
  again,
• 13:53
  we're
• 13:53
  kind
• 13:53
  of
• 13:54
  drifting
• 13:54
  into
• 13:54
  this.
• 13:55
  See
• 13:55
  here,
• 13:56
  and
• 13:56
  the
• 13:56
  last
• 13:56
  one,
• 13:56
  which
• 13:57
  I
• 13:57
  think
• 13:57
  is
• 13:57
  probably
• 13:57
  the
• 13:58
  biggest,
• 13:59
  and
• 13:59
  I
• 13:59
  think
• 13:59
  it's
• 14:00
  the
• 14:00
  most
• 14:01
  destructive,
• 14:02
  and
• 14:03
  they're
• 14:03
  all
• 14:03
  horrible,
• 14:03
  and
• 14:04
  we
• 14:04
  want
• 14:04
  to
• 14:05
  fix
• 14:05
  all
• 14:05
  of
• 14:05
  them.
• 14:05
  But
• 14:06
  there's
• 14:06
  this
• 14:06
  coherence
• 14:07
  drift,
• 14:09
  because
• 14:09
  this
• 14:09
  one,
• 14:09
  I
• 14:09
  think
• 14:10
  we
• 14:10
  don't
• 14:10
  notice
• 14:11
  as
• 14:11
  often
• 14:11
  as
• 14:12
  the
• 14:12
  others
• 14:12
  when
• 14:13
  people
• 14:13
  disengage.
• 14:13
  We
• 14:14
  know
• 14:15
  when
• 14:15
  we
• 14:15
  aren't
• 14:16
  sure
• 14:16
  why
• 14:16
  we're
• 14:16
  doing
• 14:16
  something,
• 14:17
  someone's
• 14:17
  going
• 14:18
  to
• 14:18
  say,
• 14:18
  why
• 14:18
  are
• 14:18
  we
• 14:18
  doing
• 14:18
  that?
• 14:19
  Right.
• 14:19
  And
• 14:19
  we
• 14:19
  know.
• 14:20
  But
• 14:20
  this
• 14:21
  coherence
• 14:22
  drift
• 14:23
  is
• 14:23
  when
• 14:24
  we're
• 14:25
  doing
• 14:25
  a
• 14:25
  lot
• 14:25
  of
• 14:25
  stuff,
• 14:27
  we
• 14:27
  don't
• 14:28
  necessarily
• 14:29
  see
• 14:29
  how
• 14:29
  it
• 14:29
  connects
• 14:30
  or
• 14:30
  how
• 14:31
  it's
• 14:31
  moving.
• 14:31
  I'm
• 14:31
  working
• 14:32
  with
• 14:32
  the
• 14:32
  district
• 14:32
  now,
• 14:33
  and
• 14:33
  they're
• 14:33
  doing
• 14:34
  five
• 14:34
  really
• 14:34
  big
• 14:35
  things.
• 14:35
  I'm
• 14:35
  not
• 14:35
  even
• 14:36
  going
• 14:36
  to
• 14:36
  name
• 14:36
  them,
• 14:36
  but
• 14:37
  they're
• 14:37
  the
• 14:37
  big
• 14:37
  stuff
• 14:37
  that
• 14:38
  everybody
• 14:38
  does
• 14:39
  all
• 14:39
  over
• 14:39
  the
• 14:39
  country,
• 14:40
  Right?
• 14:41
  But
• 14:42
  they
• 14:42
  haven't
• 14:42
  connected
• 14:43
  all
• 14:43
  the
• 14:43
  dots.
• 14:44
  They're
• 14:45
  doing
• 14:45
  these
• 14:45
  five
• 14:46
  things.
• 14:46
  They're
• 14:46
  all
• 14:47
  things
• 14:47
  to
• 14:47
  do,
• 14:48
  right?
• 14:48
  They're
• 14:48
  all
• 14:49
  things
• 14:49
  to
• 14:49
  do,
• 14:49
  but
• 14:50
  they
• 14:50
  have
• 14:50
  not.
• 14:51
  They're
• 14:51
  not
• 14:51
  connected
• 14:51
  to
• 14:52
  each
• 14:52
  other,
• 14:52
  and
• 14:53
  they're
• 14:53
  not
• 14:53
  connected
• 14:54
  to
• 14:54
  purpose.
• 14:54
  So
• 14:55
  then
• 14:55
  there
• 14:55
  has
• 14:55
  this
• 14:56
  huge
• 14:56
  coherence
• 14:57
  drift
• 14:58
  that
• 14:58
  they're
• 14:58
  not
• 14:58
  even
• 14:59
  aware
• 14:59
  of.
• 15:00
  Those
• 15:01
  are
• 15:01
  the
• 15:01
  five.
• 15:02
  So
• 15:02
  you
• 15:02
  already
• 15:03
  really
• 15:03
  touched
• 15:04
  on
• 15:04
  which
• 15:04
  one's
• 15:05
  the
• 15:05
  most
• 15:05
  dangerous.
• 15:05
  And
• 15:06
  we
• 15:06
  talked
• 15:06
  a
• 15:06
  lot
• 15:06
  about
• 15:07
  this
• 15:08
  coherence,
• 15:09
  really,
• 15:10
  of
• 15:10
  these
• 15:11
  human
• 15:12
  systems
• 15:13
  and
• 15:13
  understanding.
• 15:15
  So
• 15:16
  we've
• 15:16
  also
• 15:16
  talked
• 15:17
  about
• 15:17
  that
• 15:17
  human
• 15:19
  connection
• 15:19
  and
• 15:20
  with
• 15:20
  student
• 15:20
  experience.
• 15:21
  Oh,
• 15:22
  Alicia,
• 15:22
  you're
• 15:22
  looking
• 15:23
  like
• 15:23
  you
• 15:24
  want.
• 15:24
  So
• 15:24
  I'd
• 15:24
  like
• 15:24
  to
• 15:24
  jump
• 15:25
  in
• 15:25
  here
• 15:25
  because
• 15:26
  I
• 15:26
  hear
• 15:26
  a
• 15:26
  lot
• 15:26
  of
• 15:26
  the
• 15:27
  questions.
• 15:27
  Right.
• 15:28
  I
• 15:28
  do
• 15:28
  an
• 15:28
  extensive
• 15:29
  amount
• 15:29
  of
• 15:29
  work
• 15:30
  around
• 15:30
  systems
• 15:31
  thinking,
• 15:32
  systems
• 15:33
  development,
• 15:34
  systems
• 15:34
  coherence.
• 15:37
  And
• 15:37
  I
• 15:38
  just
• 15:38
  want
• 15:38
  to
• 15:38
  track
• 15:38
  back
• 15:40
  to
• 15:40
  where
• 15:41
  Grant
• 15:41
  actually
• 15:42
  talked
• 15:42
  about
• 15:43
  human
• 15:43
  relationships
• 15:45
  and
• 15:45
  how
• 15:45
  human
• 15:46
  relationships
• 15:47
  matter.
• 15:48
  And
• 15:48
  if
• 15:48
  we're
• 15:48
  looking
• 15:48
  at
• 15:49
  human
• 15:49
  systems,
• 15:52
  the
• 15:52
  most
• 15:53
  valuable
• 15:54
  resource
• 15:54
  within
• 15:55
  the
• 15:55
  frame
• 15:55
  are
• 15:56
  the
• 15:56
  human
• 15:56
  beings
• 15:56
  themselves.
• 15:59
  And
• 15:59
  I
• 15:59
  know
• 15:59
  from
• 16:00
  the
• 16:00
  conversations
• 16:00
  that
• 16:01
  I've
• 16:01
  had
• 16:01
  with
• 16:01
  Dr.
• 16:02
  Chandler,
• 16:02
  he's
• 16:03
  extremely
• 16:03
  intentional
• 16:04
  around
• 16:05
  centering
• 16:05
  the
• 16:05
  human,
• 16:07
  whether
• 16:07
  that
• 16:07
  is
• 16:07
  the
• 16:08
  student
• 16:08
  or
• 16:09
  the
• 16:09
  educator,
• 16:10
  within
• 16:10
  his
• 16:11
  leadership
• 16:11
  framework.
• 16:12
  And
• 16:12
  I
• 16:12
  just
• 16:12
  wanted
• 16:13
  to
• 16:13
  spend
• 16:13
  a
• 16:14
  little
• 16:14
  time
• 16:15
  asking
• 16:15
  Dr.
• 16:16
  Chandler
• 16:16
  to
• 16:16
  elevate
• 16:17
  his
• 16:18
  thinking
• 16:19
  around
• 16:19
  that
• 16:20
  a
• 16:20
  little
• 16:20
  bit
• 16:20
  more
• 16:21
  around
• 16:21
  this
• 16:21
  human
• 16:22
  centered
• 16:23
  system
• 16:24
  and
• 16:24
  then
• 16:25
  having
• 16:25
  to
• 16:26
  recalibrate
• 16:26
  and
• 16:27
  connect
• 16:27
  the
• 16:27
  dots.
• 16:30
  So
• 16:30
  the
• 16:30
  reality
• 16:31
  for
• 16:32
  me
• 16:33
  is
• 16:33
  that
• 16:34
  when
• 16:35
  drift
• 16:35
  happens
• 16:38
  in
• 16:38
  any
• 16:39
  way,
• 16:39
  right?
• 16:39
  In
• 16:39
  any
• 16:40
  of
• 16:40
  the
• 16:40
  five
• 16:40
  types,
• 16:41
  when
• 16:42
  we're
• 16:42
  moving
• 16:42
  away
• 16:43
  from
• 16:43
  purpose
• 16:44
  for
• 16:44
  lots
• 16:44
  of
• 16:45
  different
• 16:45
  reasons,
• 16:46
  and
• 16:46
  let's
• 16:47
  think
• 16:47
  about
• 16:47
  purpose
• 16:47
  for
• 16:48
  a
• 16:48
  minute
• 16:48
  and
• 16:49
  we'll
• 16:49
  talk
• 16:50
  about
• 16:50
  that
• 16:50
  more
• 16:50
  in
• 16:50
  episodes
• 16:51
  two
• 16:51
  and
• 16:51
  three,
• 16:52
  when
• 16:52
  we
• 16:52
  really
• 16:53
  dive
• 16:53
  into
• 16:53
  the
• 16:53
  ecosystem.
• 16:54
  But
• 16:55
  the
• 16:55
  purpose
• 16:56
  is
• 16:56
  human
• 16:57
  centered.
• 16:59
  The
• 16:59
  purpose
• 16:59
  is
• 17:00
  human
• 17:00
  centered.
• 17:01
  So
• 17:01
  when
• 17:01
  we
• 17:01
  drift
• 17:02
  away
• 17:02
  from
• 17:02
  our
• 17:03
  purpose,
• 17:04
  which
• 17:04
  is
• 17:04
  human
• 17:05
  centered
• 17:05
  to
• 17:06
  begin
• 17:06
  with,
• 17:07
  then
• 17:08
  the
• 17:08
  impact
• 17:09
  automatically,
• 17:10
  regardless
• 17:10
  of
• 17:11
  what
• 17:11
  type
• 17:11
  of
• 17:12
  drift
• 17:12
  it
• 17:12
  is,
• 17:13
  the
• 17:13
  impact
• 17:14
  is
• 17:15
  always
• 17:15
  going
• 17:15
  to
• 17:15
  be
• 17:16
  felt
• 17:17
  by
• 17:17
  humans.
• 17:19
  So
• 17:20
  when
• 17:20
  I
• 17:20
  get
• 17:20
  really
• 17:20
  confused
• 17:21
  if
• 17:21
  I'm
• 17:21
  a
• 17:21
  teacher
• 17:22
  and
• 17:22
  I
• 17:22
  get
• 17:22
  really
• 17:22
  confused
• 17:23
  because
• 17:24
  every
• 17:25
  time
• 17:25
  this
• 17:25
  school
• 17:25
  year
• 17:26
  starts,
• 17:26
  you
• 17:26
  jack
• 17:27
  me
• 17:27
  around
• 17:28
  with
• 17:28
  another
• 17:28
  initiative,
• 17:30
  I
• 17:31
  disengage.
• 17:32
  Right.
• 17:33
  And
• 17:35
  I'm
• 17:35
  further
• 17:35
  away
• 17:36
  from
• 17:36
  the
• 17:36
  human
• 17:37
  purpose.
• 17:39
  Right?
• 17:39
  So
• 17:40
  when
• 17:40
  we,
• 17:41
  when
• 17:41
  we're
• 17:42
  doing
• 17:42
  this
• 17:43
  initiative
• 17:43
  today
• 17:43
  and
• 17:43
  that
• 17:44
  initiative
• 17:44
  tomorrow,
• 17:45
  and
• 17:45
  I'm
• 17:45
  overwhelmed
• 17:46
  by
• 17:46
  all
• 17:47
  of
• 17:48
  shows
• 17:48
  up
• 17:49
  in
• 17:50
  the
• 17:50
  impact
• 17:51
  on
• 17:51
  educators.
• 17:52
  But
• 17:53
  don't
• 17:53
  be
• 17:53
  confused.
• 17:55
  The
• 17:55
  biggest
• 17:56
  impact
• 17:56
  of
• 17:57
  drift
• 17:58
  is
• 17:58
  on
• 17:59
  students
• 18:01
  and
• 18:01
  what
• 18:01
  students
• 18:02
  experience
• 18:03
  every
• 18:04
  single
• 18:05
  day.
• 18:05
  So
• 18:05
  when
• 18:05
  we
• 18:06
  want
• 18:06
  to
• 18:06
  solve
• 18:06
  drift,
• 18:07
  when
• 18:07
  we
• 18:08
  want
• 18:08
  to
• 18:08
  be
• 18:08
  able
• 18:08
  to,
• 18:08
  you
• 18:08
  know,
• 18:08
  when
• 18:09
  we
• 18:09
  want
• 18:09
  to
• 18:09
  be
• 18:09
  able
• 18:09
  to
• 18:09
  detect
• 18:10
  it
• 18:10
  and
• 18:11
  then
• 18:11
  do
• 18:11
  something
• 18:11
  about
• 18:12
  it,
• 18:13
  Absolutely,
• 18:14
  we
• 18:14
  want
• 18:14
  to
• 18:14
  do
• 18:14
  something
• 18:14
  about
• 18:15
  it
• 18:15
  because
• 18:15
  that
• 18:15
  helps
• 18:15
  our
• 18:16
  educators.
• 18:17
  But
• 18:17
  we
• 18:17
  exist
• 18:19
  for
• 18:19
  students.
• 18:20
  Right?
• 18:20
  And
• 18:21
  when
• 18:21
  you
• 18:21
  really
• 18:21
  want
• 18:21
  to
• 18:21
  see
• 18:22
  if
• 18:22
  drift
• 18:23
  is
• 18:23
  happening
• 18:23
  in
• 18:23
  an
• 18:23
  organization,
• 18:25
  find
• 18:25
  out
• 18:26
  what
• 18:26
  students
• 18:26
  are
• 18:27
  experiencing
• 18:28
  every
• 18:29
  single
• 18:30
  day.
• 18:31
  Because
• 18:32
  there's
• 18:33
  your
• 18:33
  key
• 18:34
  indicator
• 18:35
  of
• 18:36
  drift.
• 18:37
  So
• 18:38
  when
• 18:38
  you
• 18:38
  think
• 18:38
  about
• 18:38
  that,
• 18:39
  Dr.
• 18:40
  Chandler,
• 18:41
  are
• 18:41
  you
• 18:41
  saying
• 18:42
  that
• 18:44
  leaders
• 18:45
  aren't
• 18:45
  providing
• 18:46
  that?
• 18:46
  Are
• 18:47
  you
• 18:47
  saying
• 18:47
  that
• 18:49
  leadership
• 18:51
  is
• 18:52
  the
• 18:52
  problem?
• 18:53
  I
• 18:54
  would
• 18:54
  not
• 18:54
  say
• 18:54
  that
• 18:55
  leadership
• 18:56
  is
• 18:56
  the
• 18:56
  problem.
• 18:57
  Right.
• 18:57
  Because
• 18:57
  we
• 18:58
  don't
• 18:58
  want
• 18:58
  to.
• 18:58
  Leaders
• 18:59
  are.
• 19:00
  They're
• 19:00
  not
• 19:00
  doing
• 19:01
  bad
• 19:01
  work
• 19:02
  and
• 19:02
  they're
• 19:02
  not
• 19:02
  bad
• 19:03
  people.
• 19:04
  Right.
• 19:04
  They
• 19:05
  get
• 19:05
  caught
• 19:05
  up
• 19:06
  in
• 19:06
  a
• 19:07
  system,
• 19:08
  a
• 19:08
  system
• 19:08
  that
• 19:09
  is
• 19:09
  compliance
• 19:10
  based
• 19:10
  based.
• 19:12
  Everything
• 19:13
  that
• 19:13
  leaders
• 19:14
  are
• 19:14
  trained
• 19:14
  and
• 19:15
  taught
• 19:15
  and
• 19:16
  mandated
• 19:17
  to
• 19:17
  do
• 19:18
  currently
• 19:19
  in
• 19:19
  2026
• 19:21
  is
• 19:21
  compliance
• 19:22
  based.
• 19:23
  And
• 19:23
  so
• 19:24
  you've
• 19:24
  got
• 19:24
  good
• 19:24
  people
• 19:25
  who
• 19:25
  are
• 19:25
  well
• 19:26
  intentioned,
• 19:27
  caught
• 19:28
  up
• 19:28
  in
• 19:29
  all
• 19:29
  of
• 19:30
  this
• 19:30
  stuff
• 19:31
  that
• 19:32
  takes
• 19:32
  them
• 19:32
  away
• 19:33
  from
• 19:33
  purpose.
• 19:34
  So
• 19:34
  I
• 19:34
  would
• 19:35
  say
• 19:35
  that
• 19:36
  it's
• 19:36
  not
• 19:36
  caused
• 19:37
  by
• 19:37
  bad
• 19:38
  people.
• 19:39
  It's
• 19:39
  caused
• 19:40
  by,
• 19:41
  and
• 19:42
  I
• 19:42
  don't
• 19:42
  mean
• 19:42
  this
• 19:42
  to
• 19:42
  sound
• 19:43
  badly,
• 19:43
  it's
• 19:43
  caused
• 19:44
  by
• 19:44
  undisciplined
• 19:45
  thinking.
• 19:46
  We
• 19:46
  haven't
• 19:47
  trained
• 19:47
  ourselves
• 19:49
  to
• 19:49
  be
• 19:49
  drift
• 19:50
  detectors.
• 19:51
  And
• 19:52
  it's
• 19:52
  also
• 19:52
  caused
• 19:53
  by
• 19:53
  undisciplined
• 19:54
  systems.
• 19:55
  The
• 19:56
  system
• 19:57
  loves.
• 19:58
  I'm
• 19:58
  sorry,
• 19:59
  but
• 19:59
  the
• 19:59
  system
• 20:00
  loves
• 20:00
  drift.
• 20:01
  And
• 20:02
  the
• 20:02
  system
• 20:02
  loves
• 20:03
  compliance,
• 20:04
  right?
• 20:05
  And
• 20:05
  compliance
• 20:05
  takes
• 20:06
  us
• 20:06
  away
• 20:06
  from
• 20:07
  the
• 20:07
  human
• 20:07
  centered
• 20:08
  purpose.
• 20:09
  So
• 20:10
  I
• 20:10
  think
• 20:11
  you
• 20:11
  see
• 20:11
  a
• 20:11
  lot.
• 20:11
  You
• 20:12
  know,
• 20:12
  we
• 20:12
  talked
• 20:12
  about
• 20:12
  the
• 20:13
  coherence
• 20:13
  drift.
• 20:13
  Hey,
• 20:14
  you
• 20:14
  got,
• 20:14
  you
• 20:14
  know,
• 20:15
  I
• 20:15
  met
• 20:15
  a
• 20:16
  principal
• 20:16
  once
• 20:16
  who
• 20:16
  told,
• 20:17
  you
• 20:17
  know,
• 20:17
  who
• 20:17
  was
• 20:17
  identified
• 20:18
  for
• 20:18
  need.
• 20:19
  And
• 20:19
  she
• 20:19
  said
• 20:20
  in
• 20:20
  our
• 20:20
  first
• 20:21
  conversation,
• 20:21
  she
• 20:21
  goes,
• 20:22
  oh,
• 20:22
  I
• 20:22
  don't
• 20:22
  need
• 20:22
  you,
• 20:23
  we're
• 20:23
  all
• 20:23
  good.
• 20:23
  And
• 20:24
  I
• 20:24
  said,
• 20:24
  well,
• 20:24
  fantastic.
• 20:26
  She
• 20:26
  goes,
• 20:26
  we
• 20:27
  got
• 20:27
  96
• 20:27
  ways
• 20:28
  of
• 20:28
  solving
• 20:28
  this
• 20:28
  problem.
• 20:30
  Girl,
• 20:31
  sit
• 20:31
  down.
• 20:31
  You
• 20:31
  need
• 20:31
  me.
• 20:35
  Sit
• 20:35
  down.
• 20:36
  Grab
• 20:36
  a
• 20:36
  pen.
• 20:37
  Because
• 20:37
  we're
• 20:37
  going
• 20:37
  to
• 20:37
  get
• 20:38
  rid
• 20:38
  of
• 20:38
  93
• 20:39
  of
• 20:39
  those
• 20:39
  initiatives,
• 20:40
  right?
• 20:41
  Because
• 20:41
  you
• 20:41
  can't
• 20:41
  humanly
• 20:42
  do
• 20:42
  all
• 20:42
  of
• 20:42
  that
• 20:42
  work.
• 20:43
  It's
• 20:43
  not
• 20:43
  possible.
• 20:44
  We
• 20:44
  tend
• 20:44
  to.
• 20:45
  That
• 20:46
  produces
• 20:46
  action
• 20:47
  drift
• 20:47
  and
• 20:47
  a
• 20:48
  lack
• 20:48
  of
• 20:48
  coherence.
• 20:49
  We've
• 20:49
  got
• 20:50
  leaders
• 20:51
  who
• 20:51
  are.
• 20:52
  We
• 20:52
  had
• 20:53
  an
• 20:53
  episode
• 20:53
  just
• 20:53
  recently
• 20:54
  about
• 20:54
  busyness
• 20:55
  where
• 20:56
  leaders
• 20:56
  are
• 20:56
  managing
• 20:57
  noise.
• 20:58
  There's
• 20:58
  all
• 20:59
  sorts
• 20:59
  of
• 20:59
  noise
• 21:00
  out
• 21:00
  there
• 21:00
  instead
• 21:01
  of
• 21:01
  navigating
• 21:02
  meaning.
• 21:04
  And
• 21:04
  this
• 21:04
  is
• 21:04
  a
• 21:04
  hard
• 21:04
  one
• 21:05
  for
• 21:05
  leaders
• 21:05
  as
• 21:05
  well.
• 21:06
  We
• 21:07
  sometimes,
• 21:07
  and
• 21:07
  again
• 21:08
  it's
• 21:08
  because
• 21:08
  we
• 21:08
  haven't
• 21:09
  been
• 21:09
  properly
• 21:10
  supported.
• 21:12
  We
• 21:12
  avoid
• 21:14
  things
• 21:14
  that
• 21:14
  are
• 21:14
  sometimes
• 21:15
  really
• 21:15
  hard
• 21:16
  and
• 21:16
  awkward
• 21:17
  and
• 21:18
  we
• 21:18
  gravitate
• 21:19
  toward
• 21:20
  comfortable.
• 21:21
  If
• 21:22
  I
• 21:22
  really
• 21:22
  want
• 21:22
  to
• 21:23
  address
• 21:23
  that.
• 21:23
  But
• 21:23
  oh
• 21:24
  my
• 21:25
  goodness,
• 21:25
  I
• 21:26
  am
• 21:26
  going
• 21:26
  to
• 21:27
  completely
• 21:27
  upend
• 21:28
  the
• 21:28
  apple
• 21:28
  cart.
• 21:29
  Everybody's
• 21:29
  going
• 21:29
  to
• 21:30
  be
• 21:30
  crazy
• 21:30
  if
• 21:30
  I
• 21:30
  do
• 21:30
  that.
• 21:31
  And
• 21:31
  so,
• 21:31
  oh,
• 21:33
  I'm
• 21:33
  going
• 21:33
  to
• 21:33
  try
• 21:33
  to
• 21:33
  be
• 21:34
  comfortable.
• 21:34
  I'm
• 21:34
  going
• 21:34
  to
• 21:35
  try
• 21:35
  to
• 21:35
  figure
• 21:35
  out
• 21:37
  a
• 21:37
  more
• 21:37
  comfortable
• 21:38
  approach.
• 21:38
  Now,
• 21:38
  I
• 21:38
  am
• 21:39
  not
• 21:39
  about
• 21:39
  making
• 21:40
  people
• 21:40
  crazy.
• 21:41
  That's
• 21:41
  not
• 21:41
  the
• 21:41
  point.
• 21:42
  That's
• 21:42
  not
• 21:42
  the
• 21:43
  point.
• 21:43
  But
• 21:43
  when
• 21:43
  we're
• 21:44
  drifting
• 21:44
  away
• 21:45
  from
• 21:46
  purpose
• 21:47
  sometimes,
• 21:49
  sometimes
• 21:49
  to
• 21:49
  get
• 21:49
  us
• 21:50
  back
• 21:50
  where
• 21:51
  we
• 21:51
  need
• 21:51
  to
• 21:51
  go,
• 21:52
  that
• 21:52
  means
• 21:53
  venturing
• 21:53
  into
• 21:53
  areas
• 21:54
  where
• 21:54
  we
• 21:54
  might
• 21:54
  not
• 21:55
  be
• 21:55
  comfortable.
• 21:57
  I
• 21:57
  want
• 21:57
  to
• 21:58
  jump
• 21:58
  in
• 21:59
  on
• 21:59
  that.
• 21:59
  And
• 21:59
  at
• 21:59
  the
• 22:00
  risk
• 22:00
  of
• 22:00
  choking
• 22:00
  on
• 22:00
  the
• 22:01
  metaphor,
• 22:04
  the
• 22:05
  nautical
• 22:05
  metaphor
• 22:06
  at
• 22:06
  the
• 22:06
  heart
• 22:06
  of
• 22:06
  tactical
• 22:07
  leadership
• 22:07
  and
• 22:08
  the
• 22:08
  whole
• 22:08
  ecosystem
• 22:08
  of
• 22:09
  students,
• 22:09
  matter
• 22:11
  is
• 22:13
  really
• 22:14
  powerful.
• 22:15
  And
• 22:16
  when
• 22:16
  I
• 22:16
  think
• 22:16
  about
• 22:17
  avoiding
• 22:17
  drift
• 22:18
  and
• 22:18
  I
• 22:18
  think
• 22:18
  about
• 22:18
  mariners
• 22:19
  avoiding
• 22:20
  drift,
• 22:20
  I
• 22:21
  think
• 22:21
  about
• 22:21
  the
• 22:22
  instrument
• 22:22
  of
• 22:22
  the
• 22:23
  sextant
• 22:25
  and
• 22:27
  that
• 22:27
  you
• 22:27
  fix
• 22:27
  that
• 22:28
  on
• 22:28
  the
• 22:28
  polestar,
• 22:30
  the
• 22:30
  North
• 22:30
  Star.
• 22:31
  And
• 22:33
  we
• 22:33
  want
• 22:33
  to
• 22:33
  make
• 22:33
  sure
• 22:34
  we're
• 22:34
  looking
• 22:34
  at
• 22:34
  the
• 22:34
  right
• 22:35
  part
• 22:35
  of
• 22:35
  the
• 22:35
  sky.
• 22:38
  So
• 22:38
  when
• 22:38
  we
• 22:38
  talk
• 22:39
  about
• 22:39
  purpose
• 22:39
  and
• 22:40
  drift,
• 22:42
  that
• 22:43
  phenomenon
• 22:44
  of
• 22:44
  us
• 22:45
  moving
• 22:45
  away
• 22:45
  from
• 22:46
  purpose,
• 22:47
  how
• 22:48
  do
• 22:48
  we
• 22:48
  know
• 22:48
  we
• 22:48
  are
• 22:49
  all
• 22:49
  looking
• 22:49
  at
• 22:49
  the
• 22:49
  same
• 22:50
  North
• 22:50
  Star?
• 22:52
  So
• 22:54
  that
• 22:55
  is
• 22:55
  very.
• 22:55
  I
• 22:55
  mean,
• 22:56
  that's
• 22:56
  a
• 22:56
  huge
• 22:56
  Michael.
• 22:57
  And
• 22:58
  that's
• 22:58
  one
• 22:58
  of
• 22:59
  the
• 22:59
  foundations
• 23:00
  of
• 23:00
  tactical
• 23:00
  leadership
• 23:01
  is
• 23:02
  identifying
• 23:03
  the
• 23:04
  North
• 23:04
  Star.
• 23:05
  Many,
• 23:05
  many
• 23:07
  leaders,
• 23:08
  many
• 23:08
  teachers.
• 23:09
  Again,
• 23:10
  we
• 23:10
  inherit
• 23:10
  what
• 23:10
  we
• 23:11
  have,
• 23:11
  right?
• 23:11
  We
• 23:11
  inherit
• 23:12
  a
• 23:13
  messy,
• 23:15
  non
• 23:15
  human
• 23:16
  centered
• 23:17
  system.
• 23:17
  Isn't
• 23:18
  that
• 23:18
  odd
• 23:18
  to
• 23:19
  say
• 23:19
  that
• 23:19
  education
• 23:20
  is
• 23:20
  not
• 23:20
  human
• 23:21
  Centered.
• 23:22
  Hello.
• 23:23
  I
• 23:24
  can't
• 23:24
  believe
• 23:24
  we're
• 23:24
  saying
• 23:24
  this
• 23:25
  on
• 23:25
  a
• 23:25
  podcast,
• 23:25
  right?
• 23:25
  But
• 23:26
  it's
• 23:26
  true,
• 23:26
  right?
• 23:27
  Education
• 23:27
  is,
• 23:28
  you
• 23:28
  know,
• 23:28
  we
• 23:29
  talk
• 23:29
  about
• 23:29
  it
• 23:29
  all
• 23:29
  the
• 23:29
  time.
• 23:31
  It's
• 23:31
  about
• 23:31
  hurting
• 23:32
  students
• 23:32
  toward
• 23:33
  a
• 23:33
  finish
• 23:33
  line
• 23:33
  that
• 23:34
  you
• 23:34
  write.
• 23:35
  States
• 23:35
  mandate
• 23:36
  that,
• 23:37
  so
• 23:37
  there's
• 23:37
  an
• 23:37
  element
• 23:38
  of
• 23:38
  that.
• 23:38
  But
• 23:38
  I
• 23:39
  think
• 23:39
  one
• 23:39
  of
• 23:39
  the
• 23:40
  things
• 23:40
  that
• 23:40
  is
• 23:41
  really
• 23:41
  important
• 23:41
  in
• 23:42
  the
• 23:42
  ecosystem,
• 23:42
  and
• 23:42
  again,
• 23:43
  we'll
• 23:43
  talk
• 23:43
  about
• 23:43
  that
• 23:44
  more
• 23:44
  when
• 23:44
  we
• 23:45
  really
• 23:45
  dive
• 23:45
  into
• 23:45
  the
• 23:45
  ecosystem,
• 23:46
  is
• 23:47
  you
• 23:47
  gotta
• 23:47
  be
• 23:48
  really
• 23:48
  clear.
• 23:49
  That's
• 23:50
  why
• 23:50
  we
• 23:50
  use
• 23:51
  a
• 23:51
  maritime
• 23:51
  metaphor.
• 23:52
  A
• 23:52
  maritime
• 23:53
  metaphor
• 23:53
  is
• 23:53
  about
• 23:53
  heading
• 23:54
  somewhere,
• 23:55
  right?
• 23:55
  When
• 23:56
  you
• 23:56
  get
• 23:56
  in
• 23:56
  a
• 23:56
  vessel,
• 23:57
  right?
• 23:59
  Big
• 23:59
  vessel
• 23:59
  or
• 24:00
  small
• 24:00
  vessel,
• 24:00
  the
• 24:00
  whole
• 24:01
  point
• 24:01
  of
• 24:01
  getting
• 24:01
  in
• 24:01
  the
• 24:02
  vessel
• 24:02
  is
• 24:02
  to
• 24:03
  go
• 24:03
  somewhere.
• 24:06
  And
• 24:06
  so
• 24:06
  that
• 24:07
  somewhere
• 24:08
  is
• 24:09
  the
• 24:09
  North
• 24:09
  Star,
• 24:09
  right?
• 24:10
  That
• 24:10
  destination.
• 24:11
  We
• 24:11
  call
• 24:11
  it
• 24:12
  something
• 24:12
  in
• 24:12
  powerful
• 24:13
  student
• 24:13
  care.
• 24:13
  We
• 24:14
  call
• 24:14
  it
• 24:14
  something
• 24:14
  in
• 24:15
  tactical
• 24:16
  leadership.
• 24:17
  But
• 24:17
  knowing
• 24:19
  what
• 24:20
  your
• 24:21
  main
• 24:22
  goal
• 24:22
  is,
• 24:23
  knowing
• 24:23
  what
• 24:24
  you
• 24:24
  want
• 24:25
  each
• 24:25
  student
• 24:25
  to
• 24:26
  experience,
• 24:27
  each
• 24:27
  educator
• 24:28
  to
• 24:28
  experience,
• 24:29
  that's
• 24:30
  the
• 24:30
  North
• 24:30
  Star,
• 24:31
  right?
• 24:31
  But
• 24:32
  a
• 24:32
  lot
• 24:32
  of
• 24:32
  folks
• 24:33
  that
• 24:33
  I
• 24:34
  come
• 24:34
  across
• 24:35
  anyway,
• 24:36
  and
• 24:36
  I'm
• 24:36
  not.
• 24:37
  I
• 24:37
  can't.
• 24:37
  I'm
• 24:37
  not
• 24:38
  going
• 24:38
  to
• 24:38
  generalize
• 24:38
  that
• 24:38
  and
• 24:39
  say
• 24:39
  it's
• 24:39
  everybody,
• 24:40
  unless
• 24:41
  y'
• 24:41
  all
• 24:41
  want
• 24:41
  to
• 24:41
  chime
• 24:42
  in.
• 24:42
  But
• 24:42
  a
• 24:42
  lot
• 24:42
  of
• 24:43
  people
• 24:43
  that
• 24:43
  I
• 24:44
  have
• 24:45
  the
• 24:45
  privilege
• 24:45
  of
• 24:45
  working
• 24:46
  with
• 24:47
  haven't
• 24:48
  been
• 24:48
  afforded
• 24:49
  the
• 24:49
  luxury.
• 24:50
  And
• 24:50
  I'm
• 24:51
  going
• 24:51
  to
• 24:51
  say
• 24:51
  now
• 24:51
  the
• 24:51
  necessity
• 24:53
  of
• 24:53
  identifying
• 24:54
  purpose.
• 24:55
  And
• 24:55
  so
• 24:55
  that's
• 24:55
  one
• 24:55
  of
• 24:56
  the
• 24:56
  first
• 24:56
  things
• 24:56
  that
• 24:56
  we
• 24:56
  do
• 24:57
  in
• 24:57
  tactical
• 24:57
  leadership,
• 24:58
  is
• 24:58
  ground
• 24:59
  you,
• 24:59
  right?
• 25:00
  You
• 25:00
  got
• 25:00
  to
• 25:00
  be
• 25:00
  grounded
• 25:01
  in
• 25:01
  what
• 25:02
  matters
• 25:03
  most,
• 25:04
  right?
• 25:04
  And
• 25:04
  whatever
• 25:04
  that
• 25:05
  is,
• 25:05
  that's
• 25:06
  your
• 25:06
  North
• 25:06
  Star.
• 25:06
  Now,
• 25:07
  I
• 25:07
  happen
• 25:08
  to
• 25:08
  be
• 25:08
  very
• 25:08
  clear
• 25:09
  on
• 25:09
  what
• 25:09
  I
• 25:09
  think
• 25:10
  is
• 25:10
  my
• 25:10
  North
• 25:11
  Star
• 25:11
  and
• 25:11
  what
• 25:11
  is
• 25:11
  the
• 25:11
  most
• 25:12
  important.
• 25:12
  But
• 25:13
  this
• 25:13
  is
• 25:13
  about
• 25:13
  what
• 25:13
  every
• 25:14
  single
• 25:14
  leader
• 25:15
  has
• 25:15
  to
• 25:15
  determine
• 25:16
  for
• 25:16
  their
• 25:17
  school,
• 25:17
  for
• 25:17
  their
• 25:17
  district,
• 25:18
  for
• 25:18
  their
• 25:18
  context,
• 25:19
  is
• 25:19
  their
• 25:20
  North
• 25:21
  Star.
• 25:21
  And
• 25:21
  I
• 25:22
  think
• 25:22
  that's
• 25:22
  really
• 25:22
  important.
• 25:22
  Michael.
• 25:24
  I
• 25:24
  know,
• 25:24
  Dr.
• 25:25
  Chandler,
• 25:25
  you
• 25:25
  and
• 25:26
  I
• 25:26
  have
• 25:26
  talked
• 25:26
  about
• 25:26
  this
• 25:26
  a
• 25:27
  lot,
• 25:28
  and
• 25:28
  how
• 25:28
  the
• 25:28
  North
• 25:29
  Star
• 25:30
  has
• 25:30
  to
• 25:32
  actively
• 25:33
  evolve
• 25:34
  according
• 25:35
  to
• 25:35
  those
• 25:35
  who
• 25:36
  are
• 25:36
  in
• 25:36
  the
• 25:36
  space,
• 25:37
  right?
• 25:37
  Who
• 25:37
  are
• 25:38
  in
• 25:38
  the
• 25:38
  system
• 25:39
  and
• 25:39
  who
• 25:39
  we
• 25:39
  are
• 25:40
  serving.
• 25:40
  And
• 25:41
  I
• 25:41
  just
• 25:41
  didn't
• 25:41
  want
• 25:41
  to
• 25:42
  move
• 25:42
  off
• 25:42
  of
• 25:42
  that
• 25:42
  conversation
• 25:44
  yet
• 25:45
  to
• 25:45
  have
• 25:45
  you
• 25:45
  share
• 25:46
  your
• 25:46
  thinking
• 25:47
  and
• 25:47
  your
• 25:47
  philosophy
• 25:48
  around
• 25:48
  that,
• 25:49
  because
• 25:49
  that
• 25:49
  is
• 25:50
  so
• 25:50
  important
• 25:51
  to
• 25:52
  your
• 25:52
  entire
• 25:53
  theoretical
• 25:54
  frame.
• 25:55
  No
• 25:55
  matter
• 25:55
  how
• 25:56
  somebody
• 25:57
  defines
• 25:57
  their
• 25:57
  North
• 25:58
  Star
• 25:58
  or
• 25:58
  their
• 25:58
  purpose,
• 26:00
  dignity,
• 26:02
  human
• 26:03
  dignity
• 26:04
  as
• 26:04
  a
• 26:04
  birthright
• 26:06
  has
• 26:06
  to
• 26:06
  be
• 26:07
  there.
• 26:07
  I
• 26:08
  don't
• 26:08
  know
• 26:08
  how
• 26:10
  anybody
• 26:11
  leads
• 26:11
  an
• 26:11
  organization
• 26:13
  whose
• 26:14
  purpose
• 26:15
  is
• 26:15
  to
• 26:15
  nurture
• 26:16
  young
• 26:16
  people
• 26:17
  could
• 26:18
  have
• 26:18
  a
• 26:18
  North
• 26:18
  Star
• 26:20
  that
• 26:20
  doesn't
• 26:21
  have
• 26:21
  dignity
• 26:23
  firmly
• 26:24
  embedded
• 26:25
  as
• 26:25
  its
• 26:26
  foundation.
• 26:27
  We
• 26:27
  may
• 26:27
  define
• 26:28
  that
• 26:28
  a
• 26:28
  lot
• 26:28
  of
• 26:28
  different
• 26:29
  ways,
• 26:29
  right?
• 26:30
  But
• 26:30
  dignity
• 26:31
  as
• 26:31
  a
• 26:32
  human
• 26:33
  birthright,
• 26:34
  not
• 26:34
  something
• 26:35
  that
• 26:35
  has
• 26:35
  to
• 26:35
  Be
• 26:36
  earned,
• 26:37
  I
• 26:37
  think
• 26:37
  is
• 26:38
  the
• 26:38
  common
• 26:38
  denominator.
• 26:40
  So
• 26:40
  silence,
• 26:41
  right?
• 26:42
  Intentional
• 26:43
  silence
• 26:44
  and
• 26:44
  pause.
• 26:46
  Because
• 26:47
  that's
• 26:47
  profound
• 26:48
  and
• 26:49
  so
• 26:51
  much
• 26:52
  deeper
• 26:53
  than
• 26:55
  simply
• 26:55
  because
• 26:56
  districts
• 26:56
  do
• 26:56
  it
• 26:56
  all
• 26:57
  the
• 26:57
  time.
• 26:57
  They
• 26:57
  define
• 26:57
  their
• 26:58
  why,
• 26:59
  right?
• 27:00
  I've
• 27:00
  been
• 27:00
  in
• 27:00
  spaces
• 27:01
  to.
• 27:02
  I
• 27:02
  mean,
• 27:02
  it's
• 27:02
  deeper.
• 27:03
  This
• 27:03
  purpose
• 27:04
  that
• 27:04
  you're
• 27:04
  talking
• 27:04
  about
• 27:05
  is
• 27:05
  so
• 27:05
  much
• 27:06
  deeper
• 27:06
  than
• 27:06
  that.
• 27:07
  I've
• 27:07
  been
• 27:08
  in
• 27:08
  spaces
• 27:08
  where
• 27:09
  sticky
• 27:09
  notes
• 27:10
  are
• 27:10
  on
• 27:10
  classroom
• 27:11
  doors
• 27:11
  because
• 27:11
  we're
• 27:12
  remembering
• 27:12
  what
• 27:12
  our
• 27:12
  why
• 27:13
  is.
• 27:14
  Why
• 27:14
  are
• 27:14
  we
• 27:14
  doing
• 27:15
  this?
• 27:16
  But
• 27:17
  thinking
• 27:17
  about
• 27:17
  that
• 27:18
  and
• 27:18
  knowing
• 27:18
  that
• 27:20
  this
• 27:20
  is
• 27:20
  our
• 27:21
  North
• 27:21
  Star,
• 27:22
  then
• 27:25
  I
• 27:25
  can
• 27:25
  know
• 27:25
  where
• 27:26
  I'm
• 27:26
  going.
• 27:26
  I
• 27:27
  can
• 27:27
  know
• 27:28
  that
• 27:28
  this
• 27:28
  is
• 27:29
  my
• 27:30
  ultimate
• 27:30
  goal
• 27:31
  in
• 27:31
  my
• 27:31
  vessel.
• 27:33
  But
• 27:34
  if
• 27:34
  I
• 27:34
  don't
• 27:34
  have
• 27:35
  a
• 27:35
  map
• 27:36
  to
• 27:36
  get
• 27:36
  there,
• 27:38
  then
• 27:39
  forget
• 27:39
  it,
• 27:40
  right?
• 27:41
  I'll
• 27:41
  be
• 27:41
  drifting.
• 27:43
  So
• 27:45
  how
• 27:45
  do
• 27:46
  we
• 27:46
  avoid
• 27:47
  that?
• 27:47
  What's
• 27:48
  next,
• 27:48
  Grant?
• 27:49
  When
• 27:49
  we
• 27:49
  think
• 27:49
  about
• 27:49
  this
• 27:50
  conversation
• 27:51
  and
• 27:51
  really
• 27:52
  defining
• 27:53
  drift
• 27:53
  and
• 27:53
  understanding
• 27:54
  that
• 27:55
  there's
• 27:56
  these
• 27:56
  pieces
• 27:57
  to
• 27:57
  this
• 27:57
  puzzle
• 27:59
  now
• 28:00
  what?
• 28:02
  As
• 28:02
  you
• 28:03
  all,
• 28:03
  you're
• 28:03
  all
• 28:03
  talking.
• 28:04
  I
• 28:05
  just
• 28:05
  did
• 28:05
  a
• 28:06
  promo
• 28:06
  video
• 28:07
  last
• 28:08
  week
• 28:09
  for
• 28:10
  one
• 28:10
  aspect
• 28:10
  of
• 28:10
  the
• 28:11
  ecosystem.
• 28:11
  And
• 28:12
  I
• 28:12
  ended
• 28:12
  that
• 28:13
  promo
• 28:13
  video.
• 28:15
  Very
• 28:15
  personal.
• 28:16
  It
• 28:16
  was
• 28:16
  very
• 28:17
  personal
• 28:17
  and
• 28:17
  it
• 28:18
  was
• 28:19
  to
• 28:19
  some
• 28:19
  degree,
• 28:19
  somewhat
• 28:20
  vulnerable.
• 28:20
  As
• 28:21
  I
• 28:21
  was
• 28:21
  talking
• 28:21
  about,
• 28:22
  I
• 28:22
  have
• 28:22
  a
• 28:22
  10
• 28:22
  month
• 28:23
  old
• 28:23
  grandson.
• 28:25
  And
• 28:25
  as
• 28:26
  talking
• 28:27
  about
• 28:28
  what
• 28:28
  I
• 28:29
  wanted,
• 28:30
  he's
• 28:31
  too
• 28:31
  early
• 28:31
  to
• 28:31
  think
• 28:31
  about
• 28:31
  school,
• 28:33
  but
• 28:33
  I
• 28:33
  know
• 28:33
  he's
• 28:33
  going,
• 28:34
  I
• 28:34
  know
• 28:34
  he's
• 28:34
  going.
• 28:35
  He'll
• 28:35
  go.
• 28:36
  And
• 28:36
  I
• 28:36
  was
• 28:36
  like,
• 28:37
  okay,
• 28:37
  what
• 28:37
  is
• 28:37
  it
• 28:37
  that
• 28:38
  I
• 28:38
  want
• 28:38
  him
• 28:39
  to
• 28:39
  do,
• 28:39
  to
• 28:40
  experience
• 28:41
  when
• 28:41
  he
• 28:42
  goes
• 28:42
  to
• 28:43
  school?
• 28:43
  I
• 28:44
  don't.
• 28:45
  And
• 28:45
  I'm
• 28:45
  not.
• 28:46
  I
• 28:46
  don't
• 28:46
  want
• 28:46
  to.
• 28:46
  I
• 28:47
  don't
• 28:47
  want
• 28:47
  to.
• 28:47
  I'm
• 28:47
  not
• 28:47
  trying
• 28:48
  to
• 28:48
  denigrate
• 28:48
  people's
• 28:49
  good
• 28:49
  work.
• 28:50
  There
• 28:50
  is
• 28:50
  good
• 28:51
  work
• 28:51
  in
• 28:51
  missions
• 28:52
  and
• 28:52
  visions.
• 28:52
  And,
• 28:53
  you
• 28:53
  know,
• 28:53
  now
• 28:53
  the
• 28:54
  current
• 28:54
  big
• 28:54
  thing
• 28:55
  that
• 28:55
  everybody's
• 28:55
  doing
• 28:55
  is
• 28:56
  Portrait
• 28:56
  of
• 28:56
  a
• 28:56
  Graduate,
• 28:57
  right?
• 28:58
  Underneath
• 28:59
  all
• 28:59
  of
• 29:00
  that
• 29:02
  has
• 29:02
  to
• 29:02
  be
• 29:02
  something
• 29:03
  deeper.
• 29:05
  And
• 29:05
  for
• 29:05
  me,
• 29:05
  that's
• 29:06
  dignity.
• 29:07
  That's
• 29:07
  this
• 29:08
  human
• 29:09
  dignity.
• 29:10
  And
• 29:11
  as
• 29:11
  I
• 29:12
  was
• 29:12
  making
• 29:12
  this
• 29:12
  video,
• 29:13
  here's
• 29:13
  my
• 29:13
  long
• 29:13
  answer
• 29:14
  to
• 29:14
  your
• 29:14
  question.
• 29:15
  As
• 29:15
  I'm
• 29:15
  making
• 29:15
  this
• 29:16
  video
• 29:16
  and
• 29:16
  I'm
• 29:16
  thinking
• 29:16
  about,
• 29:17
  I
• 29:18
  really
• 29:18
  want
• 29:18
  to
• 29:18
  talk
• 29:18
  about
• 29:18
  Keegan.
• 29:19
  I
• 29:19
  really
• 29:19
  want
• 29:19
  to
• 29:19
  talk
• 29:20
  about
• 29:20
  what
• 29:20
  I
• 29:21
  want
• 29:21
  as
• 29:22
  a
• 29:22
  grandpa,
• 29:22
  right?
• 29:23
  As
• 29:23
  a
• 29:23
  grandpa
• 29:24
  for
• 29:24
  this
• 29:24
  kid.
• 29:25
  And
• 29:25
  then
• 29:25
  I
• 29:25
  was
• 29:25
  like,
• 29:26
  wait
• 29:26
  a
• 29:26
  minute.
• 29:26
  I
• 29:27
  mean,
• 29:27
  that's
• 29:27
  great,
• 29:28
  but
• 29:29
  I
• 29:29
  want
• 29:29
  that.
• 29:30
  I
• 29:30
  want
• 29:31
  that
• 29:31
  same
• 29:32
  exact
• 29:33
  thing
• 29:34
  for
• 29:34
  every
• 29:34
  other
• 29:35
  child
• 29:35
  I'll
• 29:35
  never
• 29:35
  meet,
• 29:36
  right?
• 29:36
  What
• 29:37
  is
• 29:37
  good
• 29:37
  enough
• 29:37
  for
• 29:38
  Keegan
• 29:39
  is
• 29:40
  good
• 29:40
  enough
• 29:41
  for
• 29:41
  every
• 29:42
  single
• 29:44
  student,
• 29:44
  right?
• 29:45
  That's
• 29:45
  what's
• 29:45
  important
• 29:46
  underneath
• 29:47
  all
• 29:47
  of
• 29:47
  this.
• 29:48
  That's
• 29:48
  what's
• 29:48
  important.
• 29:50
  This
• 29:50
  is
• 29:50
  what
• 29:50
  the
• 29:51
  educational
• 29:51
  arena
• 29:52
  should
• 29:52
  be
• 29:53
  about.
• 29:53
  Children
• 29:54
  should
• 29:54
  leave
• 29:55
  our
• 29:55
  System
• 29:57
  thinking
• 29:58
  that
• 29:58
  they
• 29:58
  matter,
• 29:59
  you
• 29:59
  can
• 29:59
  use
• 29:59
  whatever
• 29:59
  words
• 30:00
  you
• 30:00
  want,
• 30:00
  right?
• 30:01
  Thinking
• 30:01
  that
• 30:01
  they're
• 30:02
  valuable,
• 30:02
  that
• 30:02
  they
• 30:02
  belong,
• 30:03
  that
• 30:03
  they
• 30:03
  matter,
• 30:04
  that
• 30:04
  they're
• 30:05
  distinctive
• 30:06
  and
• 30:06
  irreplaceable.
• 30:06
  It
• 30:07
  doesn't
• 30:07
  matter
• 30:07
  what
• 30:07
  you
• 30:08
  use,
• 30:08
  right?
• 30:08
  I
• 30:09
  mean,
• 30:09
  I
• 30:09
  think
• 30:09
  there's
• 30:09
  better,
• 30:10
  some
• 30:10
  of
• 30:10
  our
• 30:10
  words
• 30:11
  are
• 30:11
  better
• 30:11
  than
• 30:11
  others,
• 30:12
  right?
• 30:12
  But
• 30:12
  I
• 30:12
  mean,
• 30:12
  I
• 30:13
  think
• 30:13
  that's
• 30:13
  what's
• 30:13
  fundamentally,
• 30:14
  really,
• 30:14
  really
• 30:14
  important.
• 30:15
  And
• 30:15
  so
• 30:16
  the
• 30:16
  solution
• 30:17
  then
• 30:18
  to
• 30:18
  how
• 30:18
  we
• 30:18
  do
• 30:19
  all
• 30:19
  of
• 30:19
  this,
• 30:21
  how
• 30:21
  we,
• 30:21
  how
• 30:22
  we
• 30:22
  stop
• 30:23
  drifting
• 30:24
  away
• 30:24
  from
• 30:24
  that
• 30:24
  first,
• 30:25
  is
• 30:25
  to
• 30:25
  really
• 30:25
  define
• 30:26
  what
• 30:26
  it
• 30:26
  is
• 30:26
  that
• 30:27
  we
• 30:27
  really
• 30:27
  believe
• 30:29
  this
• 30:29
  educational
• 30:30
  system
• 30:30
  should
• 30:30
  do,
• 30:31
  right?
• 30:31
  And
• 30:33
  if
• 30:34
  you're
• 30:34
  compliance
• 30:35
  based
• 30:35
  and
• 30:36
  all
• 30:36
  you
• 30:36
  care
• 30:37
  about
• 30:38
  are
• 30:38
  the
• 30:40
  end
• 30:40
  of
• 30:41
  school
• 30:41
  year
• 30:41
  assessments,
• 30:42
  fabulous.
• 30:43
  But
• 30:44
  students
• 30:44
  matter
• 30:44
  is
• 30:44
  not
• 30:45
  for
• 30:45
  you.
• 30:46
  We
• 30:46
  are
• 30:46
  not
• 30:46
  matched
• 30:47
  because
• 30:47
  we
• 30:48
  want
• 30:48
  something
• 30:48
  deeper
• 30:49
  for
• 30:49
  each
• 30:50
  and
• 30:50
  every
• 30:50
  student.
• 30:50
  And
• 30:51
  with
• 30:51
  that
• 30:52
  comes
• 30:52
  coherence,
• 30:55
  comes
• 30:56
  dignity,
• 30:58
  comes
• 30:59
  discipline,
• 30:59
  discipline
• 31:00
  in
• 31:00
  thinking,
• 31:01
  discipline
• 31:02
  in
• 31:02
  systems.
• 31:03
  And
• 31:04
  it's
• 31:04
  a
• 31:05
  system
• 31:06
  will
• 31:06
  help
• 31:07
  you
• 31:07
  create.
• 31:08
  It's
• 31:08
  rooted
• 31:09
  in
• 31:09
  humanity.
• 31:12
  And
• 31:12
  I
• 31:12
  think
• 31:13
  for
• 31:13
  me,
• 31:14
  and
• 31:14
  I
• 31:14
  know
• 31:14
  for
• 31:15
  all
• 31:15
  of
• 31:15
  us,
• 31:15
  because
• 31:16
  we're
• 31:16
  all
• 31:16
  of
• 31:16
  the
• 31:16
  same
• 31:17
  accord,
• 31:17
  right?
• 31:19
  That's
• 31:19
  what's
• 31:19
  most
• 31:19
  important.
• 31:21
  If
• 31:21
  we're
• 31:21
  gonna
• 31:23
  stop
• 31:24
  drifting
• 31:25
  and
• 31:25
  head
• 31:25
  toward
• 31:26
  a
• 31:26
  place
• 31:26
  that's
• 31:27
  really
• 31:27
  important
• 31:29
  for
• 31:29
  each
• 31:29
  and
• 31:29
  every
• 31:30
  student,
• 31:32
  it
• 31:32
  will
• 31:32
  require
• 31:33
  coherence,
• 31:34
  it
• 31:34
  will
• 31:34
  require
• 31:37
  dignity,
• 31:37
  it
• 31:38
  will
• 31:38
  require
• 31:39
  discipline,
• 31:40
  and
• 31:40
  it
• 31:40
  will
• 31:41
  require
• 31:41
  that
• 31:42
  the
• 31:42
  system
• 31:43
  be
• 31:43
  rooted
• 31:45
  in
• 31:45
  humanity.
• 31:48
  Over
• 31:48
  the
• 31:48
  last
• 31:50
  decade
• 31:51
  of
• 31:52
  working
• 31:53
  with
• 31:53
  you
• 31:54
  and
• 31:54
  alongside
• 31:55
  you,
• 31:55
  Dr.
• 31:56
  Chandler,
• 31:57
  your
• 31:58
  North
• 31:59
  Star
• 32:00
  has
• 32:01
  never
• 32:01
  wavered.
• 32:02
  It
• 32:02
  just
• 32:03
  hasn't.
• 32:03
  In
• 32:04
  knowing
• 32:04
  that
• 32:06
  students
• 32:07
  that
• 32:07
  you
• 32:07
  will
• 32:08
  never
• 32:08
  meet,
• 32:09
  that
• 32:09
  you
• 32:09
  have
• 32:09
  such
• 32:10
  a
• 32:10
  profound
• 32:12
  care,
• 32:12
  a
• 32:13
  deep,
• 32:14
  true,
• 32:14
  honest
• 32:15
  care
• 32:16
  for
• 32:16
  them
• 32:17
  and
• 32:17
  students
• 32:18
  matter
• 32:19
  in
• 32:20
  this
• 32:20
  ecosystem
• 32:21
  is
• 32:23
  the
• 32:23
  opportunity
• 32:25
  for
• 32:25
  districts
• 32:27
  to
• 32:27
  do
• 32:27
  this
• 32:28
  deep
• 32:28
  work
• 32:29
  that
• 32:29
  is
• 32:30
  so
• 32:30
  desperately
• 32:31
  needed.
• 32:32
  So
• 32:33
  thank
• 32:33
  you,
• 32:33
  thank
• 32:34
  you
• 32:34
  for
• 32:34
  starting
• 32:34
  this
• 32:34
  conversation
• 32:35
  with
• 32:35
  us
• 32:36
  today.
• 32:36
  We're
• 32:37
  looking
• 32:37
  forward
• 32:38
  to
• 32:39
  the
• 32:39
  next
• 32:41
  couple
• 32:41
  of
• 32:42
  conversations
• 32:43
  with
• 32:44
  continuing
• 32:44
  to
• 32:44
  keep
• 32:45
  you
• 32:45
  in
• 32:45
  the
• 32:45
  hot
• 32:45
  seat.
• 32:46
  So
• 32:48
  any
• 32:48
  final
• 32:48
  words?
• 32:49
  Anyone?
• 32:51
  I,
• 32:51
  I,
• 32:51
  I
• 32:52
  don't
• 32:52
  know
• 32:52
  if
• 32:52
  I
• 32:52
  have
• 32:52
  a
• 32:53
  final
• 32:53
  word,
• 32:53
  but
• 32:53
  I,
• 32:54
  I
• 32:54
  have
• 32:54
  a
• 32:54
  word
• 32:55
  of
• 32:56
  appreciation
• 32:58
  that
• 32:59
  it
• 32:59
  just
• 33:01
  comes
• 33:02
  from
• 33:02
  the
• 33:03
  very
• 33:03
  gratifying
• 33:04
  moment
• 33:05
  when
• 33:07
  we're
• 33:07
  able
• 33:07
  to,
• 33:08
  with
• 33:08
  language,
• 33:10
  clarify
• 33:12
  by
• 33:12
  declaring,
• 33:15
  you
• 33:15
  know,
• 33:15
  what
• 33:16
  the
• 33:16
  value,
• 33:17
  what
• 33:17
  the
• 33:17
  principle
• 33:18
  is.
• 33:20
  And
• 33:20
  when
• 33:21
  we
• 33:21
  talk
• 33:21
  about
• 33:21
  drift,
• 33:23
  we
• 33:23
  end
• 33:23
  up
• 33:23
  talking
• 33:24
  about
• 33:26
  how
• 33:26
  do
• 33:26
  we
• 33:27
  navigate
• 33:28
  successfully
• 33:29
  what
• 33:30
  is
• 33:30
  our
• 33:31
  star.
• 33:33
  And
• 33:34
  that
• 33:35
  conversation
• 33:37
  reminds
• 33:37
  us
• 33:38
  of
• 33:38
  how
• 33:40
  we
• 33:40
  don't
• 33:41
  get
• 33:41
  taken
• 33:42
  by
• 33:42
  the
• 33:43
  various
• 33:43
  winds
• 33:44
  that
• 33:44
  blow.
• 33:46
  We
• 33:47
  can't
• 33:47
  control
• 33:47
  those
• 33:48
  winds,
• 33:49
  but
• 33:49
  we
• 33:50
  can
• 33:50
  control
• 33:51
  how
• 33:52
  we
• 33:52
  navigate
• 33:53
  those
• 33:54
  winds.
• 33:56
  And
• 33:57
  that
• 33:59
  to
• 33:59
  me,
• 34:00
  that
• 34:01
  work
• 34:01
  that
• 34:02
  you
• 34:02
  have
• 34:02
  done
• 34:04
  fills
• 34:04
  me
• 34:04
  with
• 34:05
  hope,
• 34:06
  not
• 34:06
  just
• 34:06
  affirmation,
• 34:07
  it
• 34:07
  fills
• 34:08
  me
• 34:08
  with
• 34:08
  hope
• 34:09
  that
• 34:10
  not
• 34:10
  just
• 34:11
  some
• 34:11
  of
• 34:11
  us
• 34:13
  who
• 34:13
  think
• 34:14
  in
• 34:14
  these
• 34:15
  terms,
• 34:15
  but
• 34:16
  all
• 34:16
  of
• 34:16
  us
• 34:19
  can
• 34:20
  get
• 34:20
  clarification
• 34:23
  and
• 34:24
  can
• 34:25
  successfully
• 34:26
  navigate
• 34:28
  environments
• 34:30
  that
• 34:30
  are
• 34:30
  windy
• 34:33
  and
• 34:35
  that
• 34:35
  cause
• 34:36
  us
• 34:36
  to
• 34:36
  experience
• 34:37
  drift,
• 34:38
  bewilderment,
• 34:39
  consternation.
• 34:42
  So
• 34:43
  thank
• 34:43
  you.
• 34:44
  And
• 34:45
  that's
• 34:45
  the
• 34:46
  discipline
• 34:46
  that
• 34:46
  you're
• 34:46
  talking
• 34:47
  about,
• 34:47
  right?
• 34:47
  That's
• 34:47
  the
• 34:48
  discipline
• 34:48
  in
• 34:48
  thinking
• 34:49
  and
• 34:49
  the
• 34:50
  discipline
• 34:50
  in
• 34:50
  the
• 34:51
  system.
• 34:52
  Right?
• 34:52
  Because
• 34:52
  it's
• 34:52
  gonna
• 34:52
  get
• 34:53
  windy.
• 34:53
  Right?
• 34:54
  It's
• 34:55
  gonna
• 34:55
  be
• 34:55
  windy.
• 34:56
  There's
• 34:56
  all
• 34:56
  sorts
• 34:57
  of
• 34:59
  very
• 35:00
  strong
• 35:00
  pressure
• 35:01
  that
• 35:02
  leaders
• 35:03
  and
• 35:03
  educators
• 35:04
  have
• 35:04
  to
• 35:04
  deal
• 35:05
  with
• 35:05
  on
• 35:05
  a
• 35:05
  daily
• 35:06
  basis.
• 35:07
  So
• 35:07
  what
• 35:08
  I
• 35:08
  love
• 35:08
  about
• 35:09
  Dr.
• 35:09
  Chandler
• 35:10
  is
• 35:11
  many
• 35:11
  things,
• 35:12
  but
• 35:12
  in
• 35:12
  this
• 35:12
  work,
• 35:13
  it's
• 35:14
  about
• 35:14
  creative
• 35:15
  resilience.
• 35:16
  This
• 35:17
  work
• 35:17
  is
• 35:17
  hard,
• 35:19
  okay?
• 35:19
  This
• 35:20
  works
• 35:22
  is
• 35:22
  change
• 35:22
  maker
• 35:23
  work.
• 35:25
  And
• 35:25
  change
• 35:26
  maker
• 35:26
  work
• 35:26
  is
• 35:27
  arduous.
• 35:28
  And
• 35:28
  you
• 35:28
  oftentimes
• 35:29
  feel
• 35:29
  alone
• 35:31
  in
• 35:31
  this
• 35:32
  work.
• 35:32
  And
• 35:33
  then
• 35:33
  you
• 35:33
  find
• 35:33
  this
• 35:33
  village,
• 35:35
  the
• 35:35
  wheelhouse,
• 35:36
  family
• 35:37
  of
• 35:37
  also
• 35:39
  leaders
• 35:39
  in
• 35:40
  this
• 35:40
  space.
• 35:41
  So
• 35:41
  I
• 35:41
  want
• 35:42
  to
• 35:42
  congratulate
• 35:43
  and
• 35:44
  honor
• 35:45
  the
• 35:45
  creative
• 35:45
  resilience,
• 35:46
  the
• 35:46
  one
• 35:47
  of
• 35:47
  the
• 35:47
  many
• 35:47
  beautiful
• 35:48
  characteristics
• 35:49
  within
• 35:49
  Grant
• 35:50
  Chandler
• 35:51
  that
• 35:51
  moves
• 35:51
  this
• 35:52
  work
• 35:52
  forward.
• 35:53
  But
• 35:54
  what
• 35:54
  is
• 35:55
  so
• 35:55
  special
• 35:58
  and
• 35:59
  differentiates
• 36:00
  tactical
• 36:01
  leadership
• 36:02
  from
• 36:03
  other
• 36:03
  leadership
• 36:04
  resources
• 36:07
  is
• 36:07
  that
• 36:08
  tactical
• 36:09
  leadership
• 36:09
  allows
• 36:10
  leaders
• 36:10
  and
• 36:11
  gives
• 36:12
  leaders
• 36:12
  the
• 36:13
  permission
• 36:15
  to
• 36:16
  protect
• 36:16
  their
• 36:17
  direction
• 36:18
  and
• 36:18
  their
• 36:18
  vision
• 36:19
  and
• 36:19
  their
• 36:19
  North
• 36:20
  Star.
• 36:21
  It's
• 36:22
  liberating,
• 36:22
  in
• 36:23
  a
• 36:23
  sense,
• 36:25
  to
• 36:25
  the
• 36:25
  fact
• 36:26
  that,
• 36:28
  wow,
• 36:29
  this
• 36:30
  confirms
• 36:31
  that
• 36:32
  instinct
• 36:32
  and
• 36:33
  in
• 36:33
  this
• 36:33
  intuition
• 36:36
  that
• 36:37
  this
• 36:38
  should
• 36:38
  be
• 36:38
  the
• 36:39
  North
• 36:39
  Star,
• 36:39
  it
• 36:40
  should
• 36:40
  remain
• 36:40
  the
• 36:40
  North
• 36:41
  Star,
• 36:41
  and
• 36:41
  the
• 36:42
  North
• 36:42
  Star,
• 36:42
  that
• 36:43
  destination
• 36:43
  will
• 36:44
  not
• 36:44
  be
• 36:44
  moved.
• 36:46
  Just
• 36:46
  that
• 36:47
  esteem
• 36:48
  and
• 36:48
  affirmation
• 36:49
  within
• 36:49
  itself
• 36:51
  engages
• 36:53
  the
• 36:53
  audience
• 36:54
  to
• 36:54
  really
• 36:54
  become
• 36:55
  involved
• 36:55
  because
• 36:56
  that
• 36:56
  little
• 36:57
  piece
• 36:58
  is
• 36:58
  the
• 36:58
  stuff
• 36:59
  that
• 36:59
  is
• 36:59
  being
• 37:00
  tossed
• 37:00
  and
• 37:00
  turned
• 37:01
  and
• 37:02
  moved
• 37:02
  around
• 37:02
  at
• 37:03
  all
• 37:03
  times
• 37:05
  where
• 37:05
  leaders
• 37:05
  don't
• 37:05
  feel
• 37:06
  secure
• 37:06
  enough
• 37:08
  to
• 37:08
  protect
• 37:09
  their
• 37:09
  North
• 37:09
  Star.
• 37:10
  So
• 37:11
  I
• 37:11
  thank
• 37:12
  Dr.
• 37:13
  Chandler
• 37:13
  for
• 37:14
  remaining
• 37:17
  in
• 37:17
  that
• 37:17
  space
• 37:18
  and
• 37:18
  not
• 37:19
  pivoting
• 37:19
  to
• 37:20
  the
• 37:20
  wind
• 37:20
  like
• 37:21
  shaft
• 37:21
  in
• 37:21
  the
• 37:21
  wind,
• 37:22
  staying
• 37:22
  right
• 37:23
  there.
• 37:24
  Because
• 37:24
  that's
• 37:24
  important
• 37:25
  for
• 37:25
  leaders
• 37:25
  to
• 37:25
  know
• 37:26
  that
• 37:27
  they
• 37:27
  have
• 37:27
  the
• 37:27
  permission
• 37:29
  to
• 37:29
  protect
• 37:30
  their
• 37:30
  North
• 37:30
  Star.
• 37:32
  Thank
• 37:32
  you
• 37:32
  for
• 37:33
  being
• 37:33
  my
• 37:33
  village.
• 37:35
  Thank
• 37:35
  you
• 37:35
  for
• 37:35
  doing
• 37:35
  this
• 37:36
  work
• 37:36
  together.
• 37:36
  It's
• 37:37
  so
• 37:37
  incredible
• 37:38
  to
• 37:39
  be
• 37:39
  with
• 37:40
  you
• 37:40
  and
• 37:40
  work
• 37:40
  with
• 37:40
  you
• 37:41
  on
• 37:41
  so
• 37:41
  many
• 37:41
  different
• 37:42
  levels
• 37:42
  every
• 37:42
  single
• 37:43
  day.
• 37:45
  You
• 37:46
  are
• 37:46
  a
• 37:46
  blessing
• 37:47
  to
• 37:47
  me,
• 37:47
  both
• 37:48
  personally
• 37:48
  and
• 37:48
  professionally
• 37:50
  and
• 37:50
  to
• 37:50
  every
• 37:51
  student
• 37:51
  that
• 37:51
  you
• 37:52
  have
• 37:52
  any
• 37:52
  impact
• 37:53
  with.
• 37:53
  It's
• 37:53
  a
• 37:54
  pleasure.
• 37:54
  Pleasure
• 37:55
  to
• 37:55
  be
• 37:55
  with
• 37:55
  you.
• 37:56
  Next
• 37:56
  episode,
• 37:57
  we'll
• 37:58
  stop
• 37:58
  diagnosing
• 37:59
  and
• 37:59
  we'll
• 37:59
  start
• 37:59
  designing.
• 38:00
  If
• 38:00
  drift
• 38:01
  is
• 38:01
  the
• 38:01
  problem,
• 38:02
  then
• 38:02
  what
• 38:02
  does
• 38:02
  a
• 38:02
  coherent
• 38:03
  human
• 38:03
  system
• 38:04
  actually
• 38:05
  look
• 38:05
  like?
• 38:06
  Let's
• 38:06
  get
• 38:07
  oriented.
• 38:07
  We'll
• 38:07
  see
• 38:07
  you
• 38:08
  on
• 38:08
  June
• 38:08
  2nd
• 38:09
  for
• 38:09
  another
• 38:09
  episode
• 38:10
  of
• 38:11
  the
• 38:11
  Wheelhouse.
• 38:17
  My
• 38:17
  thanks
• 38:18
  to
• 38:18
  Kathy
• 38:18
  Mone,
• 38:19
  Michael
• 38:19
  Pipa,
• 38:20
  and
• 38:20
  Dr.
• 38:20
  Alicia
• 38:21
  Munro
• 38:21
  for
• 38:21
  leading
• 38:22
  this
• 38:22
  conversation.
• 38:24
  Here's
• 38:24
  the
• 38:24
  part
• 38:24
  we
• 38:24
  can't
• 38:25
  ignore.
• 38:26
  Drift
• 38:27
  doesn't
• 38:27
  announce
• 38:28
  itself.
• 38:29
  It
• 38:29
  doesn't
• 38:30
  show
• 38:30
  up
• 38:30
  in
• 38:30
  your
• 38:30
  strategic
• 38:31
  plan.
• 38:32
  It
• 38:32
  doesn't
• 38:33
  raise
• 38:33
  its
• 38:33
  hand
• 38:34
  in
• 38:34
  a
• 38:34
  meeting.
• 38:35
  It
• 38:36
  shows
• 38:36
  up
• 38:36
  in
• 38:36
  the
• 38:37
  lived
• 38:37
  experience
• 38:38
  of
• 38:38
  students
• 38:39
  in
• 38:40
  inconsistency,
• 38:42
  in
• 38:42
  disconnection,
• 38:44
  in
• 38:44
  the
• 38:44
  quiet
• 38:45
  erosion
• 38:46
  of
• 38:46
  belonging.
• 38:48
  And
• 38:48
  if
• 38:48
  we're
• 38:48
  honest,
• 38:50
  most
• 38:50
  systems
• 38:51
  don't
• 38:51
  recognize
• 38:52
  drift
• 38:52
  until
• 38:53
  the
• 38:53
  outcome
• 38:54
  forces
• 38:54
  them
• 38:55
  to.
• 38:56
  But
• 38:56
  by
• 38:56
  then
• 38:57
  students
• 38:58
  have
• 38:58
  already
• 38:58
  felt
• 38:58
  it
• 38:59
  for
• 38:59
  years.
• 39:00
  So
• 39:01
  if
• 39:01
  this
• 39:01
  episode
• 39:01
  did
• 39:02
  anything
• 39:03
  it
• 39:03
  should
• 39:03
  have
• 39:03
  created
• 39:04
  a
• 39:05
  little
• 39:05
  tension
• 39:07
  because
• 39:07
  naming
• 39:07
  drift
• 39:08
  is
• 39:08
  one
• 39:08
  thing,
• 39:09
  doing
• 39:09
  something
• 39:10
  about
• 39:10
  it
• 39:10
  is
• 39:11
  something
• 39:11
  else
• 39:12
  entirely.
• 39:13
  That's
• 39:13
  where
• 39:14
  we're
• 39:14
  headed
• 39:14
  next.
• 39:15
  In
• 39:15
  episode
• 39:15
  two
• 39:16
  we
• 39:16
  stop
• 39:16
  diagnosing
• 39:17
  the
• 39:17
  problem
• 39:18
  and
• 39:18
  we
• 39:18
  start
• 39:19
  laying
• 39:19
  out
• 39:19
  what
• 39:19
  it
• 39:20
  actually
• 39:20
  takes
• 39:21
  to
• 39:21
  build
• 39:22
  a
• 39:22
  system
• 39:22
  that
• 39:23
  doesn't
• 39:23
  drift.
• 39:24
  Not
• 39:25
  another
• 39:25
  initiative,
• 39:27
  not
• 39:27
  another
• 39:27
  layer,
• 39:29
  a
• 39:29
  coherent
• 39:30
  human
• 39:31
  centered
• 39:31
  design.
• 39:33
  Until
• 39:34
  then,
• 39:35
  pay
• 39:35
  attention
• 39:35
  to
• 39:35
  what
• 39:36
  your
• 39:36
  system
• 39:36
  is
• 39:37
  producing
• 39:38
  whether
• 39:38
  you
• 39:39
  intended
• 39:39
  it
• 39:39
  or
• 39:40
  not.
• 39:40
  That's
• 39:41
  the
• 39:41
  truth
• 39:42
  your
• 39:42
  students
• 39:43
  are
• 39:43
  living
• 39:43
  inside
• 39:44
  of.
• 39:45
  Let's
• 39:46
  stay
• 39:46
  oriented.