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Dems Bailing on Biden...Who Could Replace Him? plus RFK Jr Denied Protection & Ridiculous Trump Gag Order · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Center is always nice to be sitting with you in studio,
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  Speaker 1: and for people that are listening audio only, you can
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  Speaker 1: watch this episode on YouTube as well. Let's start with
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  Speaker 1: this idea, and I think it's time to have a
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  Speaker 1: real discussion about it, the possibility that Joe Biden may
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  Speaker 1: actually not be the nominee for the Democratic Party. They
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  Speaker 1: seem to be turning on him. Your initial reaction to this.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think the odds that Joe Biden is not
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  Speaker 2: the Democrats nominee in twenty twenty four have risen significantly,
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  Speaker 2: maybe by as much as twenty or thirty percent, And
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  Speaker 2: I think they're all sorts of inditia that suggests that
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  Speaker 2: Democrats are getting nervous. They're getting nervous about his age.
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  Speaker 2: They're looking at polling numbers that show two thirds of
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  Speaker 2: Americans think he's too old to be president. They're getting
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  Speaker 2: nervous about all of the evidence of Biden corruption. You've
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  Speaker 2: got Hunter being indicted, You've got all the connections to Joe.
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  Speaker 2: And then what we've seen in recent weeks is the
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  Speaker 2: media's turning on them. And remember the role of the media. Sadly,
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  Speaker 2: they're no longer journalists, they no longer report news. They
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  Speaker 2: are the left wing of the Democrat Party. And when
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  Speaker 2: the media turns on the presumed Democrat nominee, I think
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  Speaker 2: that is the cutting edge of the Democrat intelligentsia saying
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  Speaker 2: we may have to cut bait and find someone new. So,
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  Speaker 2: for example, David Ignatius, Yeah, columnists in the Washington Post.
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  Speaker 1: Say that again in the Washington Post, saying this, this
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  Speaker 1: is something that doesn't happen.
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  Speaker 3: Well, he wrote, tell us what he wrote.
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  Speaker 1: Then he wrote something interesting and basically was saying it's
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  Speaker 1: time to get rid of Joe Biden or maybe Kamala Harris,
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  Speaker 1: or maybe both. And one of the things he talked
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  Speaker 1: about in here he said he was concerned about Harris
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  Speaker 1: that even with Biden, because he says that, well, one
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  Speaker 1: way that Biden could help himself is by encouraging quote
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  Speaker 1: a more open vice presidential selection process that can produce
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  Speaker 1: a stronger running mate. So he's even saying, hey, Joe Biden,
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  Speaker 1: you're in deep trouble. Democrats need to pay attention to this.
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  Speaker 1: But if you're not going to stop, if you're not
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  Speaker 1: gonna say I'm not going to run, you might want
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  Speaker 1: to look at replace your vice presidential candidate. Because maybe
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  Speaker 1: that will at least make you'll go, all right, well,
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  Speaker 1: we like you a little bit more because we know
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  Speaker 1: we're going to replace you with someone that we like.
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  Speaker 1: Because her poll numbers are worse than Joe Biden's, well,
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  Speaker 1: well they are.
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  Speaker 2: And the fact that the Washington Post is throwing that
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  Speaker 2: marker out there, and let's come back to that, because
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  Speaker 2: I want to talk about the likelihood of Joe not
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  Speaker 2: being the nominee. I want to talk about the likelihood
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  Speaker 2: of Kamala not being the vice presidentdential nominee. But first,
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  Speaker 2: the fact that the Washington Post puts that out there
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  Speaker 2: in a very prominent column. It's like the starter's pistol
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  Speaker 2: and the media, they all listen to the same things.
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  Speaker 2: And so when you have the Washington Post start saying that,
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  Speaker 2: when you have the New York Times starts saying that,
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  Speaker 2: you start having others. So, for example, here's CNN this
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  Speaker 2: past week. Give a listen he has done I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if it's similar things, but he's sort of told
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  Speaker 2: some stories that don't line up quite like this before.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, this president has a pattern at this point of
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  Speaker 4: either in venting or embellishing stories about his own past,
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  Speaker 4: his biography. He did it three times in one speech
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  Speaker 4: last month alone. He claimed he had witnessed bridge collapse
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  Speaker 4: in Pittsburgh when he actually showed up about six hours later.
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  Speaker 4: He claimed that his grandfather had died just days before
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  Speaker 4: he was born himself at the same hospital. In fact,
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  Speaker 4: his grandpa died more than a year before in a
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  Speaker 4: different state, not the same hospital. And he also repeated
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  Speaker 4: a favorite fallse story that I and others had debunked
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  Speaker 4: over and over again about a supposed conversation with an
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  Speaker 4: Amtrak train conductor he was friends with who was actually
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  Speaker 4: deceased at the time the conversation would have had to
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  Speaker 4: take place. And that's not all. There are some more
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  Speaker 4: serious ones, in my view. Previously in his presidency, he
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  Speaker 4: claimed at one point he'd been arrested during a civil
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  Speaker 4: rights protest, when in other versions of the story he
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  Speaker 4: just said an officer had taken him home from a protest.
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  Speaker 4: He said he had visited the Pittsburgh synagogue where warshippers
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  Speaker 4: were killed in a twenty eighteen match shooting. In fact,
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  Speaker 4: he had actually spoken to the rabbi, but but never went.
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  Speaker 4: And he's made a whole bunch of others too, he
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  Speaker 4: said At one point Republicans like to bring this up.
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  Speaker 4: He said that he used to drive a tractor trailer
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  Speaker 4: and he used to drive an eighteen wheeler. Never happened.
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  Speaker 4: The White House later clarified he used to drive a
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  Speaker 4: school bus at one point for as a job briefly
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  Speaker 4: school bus, of course, not an eighteen wheeler. So whatever
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  Speaker 4: his intentions, whether it's you know, foggy memory about stuff
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  Speaker 4: that's going on decades ago, or deliberate embellishment, this is
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  Speaker 4: unfortunate pattern that keeps coming up again and again with
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  Speaker 4: Joe Biden.
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  Speaker 1: You go back to the starter gun analogy that used
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  Speaker 1: a moment ago, Senator. It's like everyone was holding back.
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  Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, the op ed comes out
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  Speaker 1: in the Washington Post, and it's like, oh, we can
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  Speaker 1: now say this, we can now do this well.
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  Speaker 2: And I got to say that clip on CNN I
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  Speaker 2: think is funny on like nineteen different levels. Number one,
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  Speaker 2: the most important thing is they're finally reporting on the
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  Speaker 2: fact that Joe Biden is a pathological serial liar. He
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  Speaker 2: has been his entire career. He says things that are false,
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  Speaker 2: he says the things that they're false. Again, he does
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  Speaker 2: it over and over and over and over again. The
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  Speaker 2: reporters all know that. Yeah, us CNN didn't used to
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  Speaker 2: talk about it. They didn't used to be willing to
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  Speaker 2: say it, because, hey, their job is to protect the
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  Speaker 2: Democrat president, not actually to report on what he says
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  Speaker 2: and does, even though it's a lie.
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  Speaker 3: That's point number one. On that point number.
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  Speaker 2: Two, the examples they use are deliberately minor examples. They're
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  Speaker 2: deliberately not that consequential. They didn't include the lie that
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  Speaker 2: Joe Biden just did last week where he said he
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  Speaker 2: was at ground zero the day after nine to eleven
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  Speaker 2: and he saw it right there. That's a flat out lie.
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  Speaker 3: No, he wasn't.
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  Speaker 2: He was on the floor of the Senate on September twelfth,
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  Speaker 2: two thousand and one. He did not go the day
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  Speaker 2: after nine to eleven. It's just at an absolute lie.
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  Speaker 2: But they didn't include that one because that is well.
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  Speaker 1: I laugh, because they put at the bottom of the
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  Speaker 1: screen on the ticker, but they didn't mention it in
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  Speaker 1: their comments. They're like, well, it was like the pretext
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  Speaker 1: was like, let's not mention that one, because I think
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  Speaker 1: that makes too many Americans angry that you would place
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  Speaker 1: yourself at the ground zero the day after nine to eleven,
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  Speaker 1: So we'll just put at the bottom of the screen,
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  Speaker 1: but we won't even talk about it. Where our work words.
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  Speaker 2: And most significantly, they do not include his repeated lies
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  Speaker 2: about his corruption with his son, Hunter Biden. They don't
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  Speaker 2: include the lie I've never spoken with my son about
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  Speaker 2: his overseas business dealings. That's now demonstrably false. Even the
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  Speaker 2: White House is backed away from it. But far be
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  Speaker 2: it from CNN to admit that that's a lie, because
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  Speaker 2: that actually that goes to their conceit no evidence, no evidence,
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  Speaker 2: no evidence, there's no evidence, no direct evidence. We obviously
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  Speaker 2: had an entire podcast explaining what they mean when they
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  Speaker 2: say no no direct evidence and why they're lying. So
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  Speaker 2: they don't include the most consequential and significant ones. And
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  Speaker 2: I got to say, for those of you that are
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  Speaker 2: watching this on YouTube, this is one of our three
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  Speaker 2: pods a week that is both on YouTube and on audio.
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  Speaker 2: You can see the images they put up, and they
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  Speaker 2: have a whole series of clips of Joe Biden, every
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  Speaker 2: one of them.
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  Speaker 3: He's smiling.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're all good. He looks like a genial grandfather.
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  Speaker 3: So he's a.
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  Speaker 1: Liar, but he's just like it old he just haven't fine,
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  Speaker 1: he's just you.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, who else hasn't claimed they were at ground
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  Speaker 2: zero after nine to eleven when they weren't. That's just
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  Speaker 2: what really old genial uncle Joe's do. So CNN is
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  Speaker 2: starting to criticize them, but they're so bad at it,
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  Speaker 2: They're so used to being the praetorian guard protecting him
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  Speaker 2: that they can't really bring themselves to do it. That
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  Speaker 2: being said, look this the Washington Post flipping on him,
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  Speaker 2: CNN flipping on him. This is significant, and I think
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  Speaker 2: the Democrat intelligentsia is getting nervous and Ben. I believe
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  Speaker 2: there is now a real possibility Joe Biden is not
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  Speaker 2: the Democrat nominee in twenty twenty four. And I think
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  Speaker 2: there are two ways this potentially plays out. One way
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  Speaker 2: is the pressure ratchets up internally within the Democrat Party
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  Speaker 2: significantly enough that Biden ends up back out. I think
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  Speaker 2: there's some chance of that. He didn't want to, but
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  Speaker 2: I got to say. The weird thing about Democrats their
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  Speaker 2: command and control.
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  Speaker 3: They are collectivists.
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  Speaker 2: And if enough of the power brokers go to Biden
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  Speaker 2: and say enough is enough is enough, I think there
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  Speaker 2: is some possibility, says I'm out.
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  Speaker 3: I did what I came to do.
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  Speaker 2: I stopped Donald Trump from getting in office in twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty one.
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  Speaker 3: I'm done.
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  Speaker 2: I'm riding off into the sunset. That's actually what David
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  Speaker 2: Igdasias says. Look, you can victory lap. You did what
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  Speaker 2: you wanted to do. And by the way, one of
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  Speaker 2: the things fueling that is the unease about Kamala Harris.
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  Speaker 2: Kamala Harris's numbers, her pole support is terrible, her unfavorables
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  Speaker 2: are terrible.
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  Speaker 1: Worse than his, and his poll numbers, to be clear,
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  Speaker 1: are at Jimmy Carter.
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  Speaker 2: Levels or thirty nine percent approval ratings, and hers are
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  Speaker 2: worse in the twenties. It makes you wonder if she
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  Speaker 2: wears mint flavored shoes, because daily she seems to stick
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  Speaker 2: her foot in her mouth and Democrats are nervous. Look,
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  Speaker 2: Joe Biden is eighty years old. If Biden is elected
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  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four, the actuarial tables are very significant.
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  Speaker 2: The odds are high that he does not live out
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  Speaker 2: a second term, that he dies sometime in the White House.
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  Speaker 2: That's just the realities of the age he's at, which
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  Speaker 2: means in this next election, if the Democrat ticket is
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  Speaker 2: Biden Harris, A huge part of it is going to
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  Speaker 2: be you pull that lever for Joe Biden. You are
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  Speaker 2: voting for President Kamala Harris, and that number one scares
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  Speaker 2: the heck I think out of a lot of voters.
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  Speaker 2: But number two makes Democrat Democrats nervous because they recognize
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  Speaker 2: it scares the heck out of a lot of voters.
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  Speaker 2: Now you asked, Okay, might they dump Kamala Harris as VP?
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  Speaker 3: I think the chances of that are zero?
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  Speaker 1: Is it for the same reason that I think it's
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  Speaker 1: probably zero, and that is if it was a white male,
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  Speaker 1: they'd have a much easier time. I'm getting rid of
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  Speaker 1: that person. But this is an African American female. How
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  Speaker 1: do you offload an African American female without having to
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  Speaker 1: worry that women are going to turn against you? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and minorities would turn against you, saying how dare you
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  Speaker 1: get rid of our woman? Who could be the first
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  Speaker 1: female president in the history of the United States of
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  Speaker 1: America could be Kamala Harris, not because anyone elects her,
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  Speaker 1: just because of age and him having to resign or
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  Speaker 1: based on age that he could die in office.
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  Speaker 2: So yes, And especially because the Democrats are such hyper
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  Speaker 2: bean counting, they put everyone into categories, so they don't
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  Speaker 2: think of you as a human being. They think of
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  Speaker 2: you you are a man, you were a white man,
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  Speaker 2: you were a black woman, like whatever your race, whatever
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  Speaker 2: your category. Ideally you're a transgender, you know, vegetarian, pantheist
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  Speaker 2: or whatever. But whatever your category, they put you into it.
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  Speaker 2: If it were some poor slub white guy, if the
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  Speaker 2: VP were Joe Biden, see ya, they'd put him out
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  Speaker 2: on a boat with a guy saying Hail Mary as
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  Speaker 2: he puts around in his forehead as they do, and
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  Speaker 2: Godfather too. That's what they do. And I mean that figuratively.
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  Speaker 2: I can just see the fact checkers now. Cruz says
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  Speaker 2: they're going to murder him, though that's not what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying they'd get rid of him, and get rid
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  Speaker 2: of him really quickly. I don't think the Democrats would
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  Speaker 2: be willing to dump Kamala Harris because they view African
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  Speaker 2: American women as such an essential part of their political
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  Speaker 2: coalition to victory that I think they'd be terrified of
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  Speaker 2: pissing off black women.
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  Speaker 3: And if African American women stayed home.
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  Speaker 2: Democrats lose, so I don't think they can dump Kamala
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  Speaker 2: Harris as much as as the Washington Post columnists might
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  Speaker 2: want them to. So they're two scenarios in which Joe
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  Speaker 2: Biden is not the nominee. I believe number one, the
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  Speaker 2: powers that be in the Democrat Party convinced Joe Biden
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  Speaker 2: to pull out. If that happens, I think it's a
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  Speaker 2: free for all. I think a bunch of people get in.
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  Speaker 2: I think the top four Democrats who get in are
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  Speaker 2: Kamala Harris, Pete Bootage, Edge, Gavin Newsom, and Elizabeth Warren.
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  Speaker 2: And I think all four of them get in. I
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  Speaker 2: think Gretchen Whitmer probably gets in as well. I think
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  Speaker 2: there are some others that get in. I think you
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  Speaker 2: probably get five to ten candidates who jump in the
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  Speaker 2: instant Biden is out now, in my view, the top
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  Speaker 2: tier of the first four I listed, and I think
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  Speaker 2: in that primary, I believe Elizabeth Warren wins that primary. Really,
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  Speaker 2: and when I say that that shocks people, I get
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  Speaker 2: a lot of gasps.
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  Speaker 1: But I'd be to that group right now because that
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  Speaker 1: was not what I thought you were gonna say. Why
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  Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren out of all them. I mean, she has
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  Speaker 1: Pokehontas for a reason.
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  Speaker 2: Because I think Elizabeth Warren is the ID of today's
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  Speaker 2: Democrat Party. She is the hard left, angry Marxist and
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  Speaker 2: that is where the heart is. Look, it's Elizabeth Warren
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  Speaker 2: and Bernie Sanders and AOC that drive the Democrat policy
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  Speaker 2: agenda right now because the entire party is terrified of her.
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  Speaker 2: In twenty twenty, Elizabeth Warren was splitting the crazy moon
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  Speaker 2: bat Marxist left with Bernie Sanders. Yeah, and the two
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  Speaker 2: of them were dividing that vote, which is what let
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  Speaker 2: Joe Biden win that primary. I don't think Bernie runs
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  Speaker 2: this time. I think he will recognize he's too old
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  Speaker 2: to run this time. And so I think Elizabeth has
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  Speaker 2: the crazy left winger lane all to herself, and I
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  Speaker 2: think that beats the rest of that field. That scenario one,
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  Speaker 2: Elizabeth Warren comes out of a wide open, real Democrat primary. Now,
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  Speaker 2: the thing about it is you're running out of time,
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  Speaker 2: So I'll give you some deadlines. October sixteenth is the
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  Speaker 2: filing deadline for major party candidates in Nevada. November tenth
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  Speaker 2: is the filing deadline for major major party candidates at Alabama.
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: November fourteenth is the filing deadline for major party candidates
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  Speaker 2: in Arkansas. So we're starting to get to filing deadlines
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  Speaker 2: where it becomes exceedingly difficult to get on the ballot.
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  Speaker 2: And so if this scenario happens, it has to happen fast.
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  Speaker 1: That was my question at the timeline. If Joe Biden's
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  Speaker 1: gonna if he's gonna be pushed out, forced out, because
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  Speaker 1: it's not gonna be on his own accord.
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  Speaker 3: Next sixty days, next sixty days, Yeah, I mean it's
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  Speaker 3: we've got it.
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  Speaker 1: So then here's my question. Do we see the media
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  Speaker 1: change the way they're covering the Biden crime family over
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  Speaker 1: the next sixty days is part of the final push
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  Speaker 1: to get him to realize he can't run.
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  Speaker 3: I think that is entirely possible.
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  Speaker 2: I think Washington Post and CNN are sort of the
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  Speaker 2: opening shots. And if we see in the next couple
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  Speaker 2: of weeks, if we see the media actually covering all
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  Speaker 2: of Biden's enormous problems, that's the pressure mounting. There's a
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  Speaker 2: second scenario, and this scenario I think is more likely
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  Speaker 2: and a heck of a lot more dangerous, which is
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: fast forward to next year. Fast forward to the Democrat
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  Speaker 2: National Convention. It's going to be in Chicago, Illinois, and
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  Speaker 2: it is August nineteenth through twenty second. If we get
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  Speaker 2: to August of next year and number one, Biden's mental
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: diminishment has gotten even worse and it becomes obvious to
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  Speaker 2: anyone that he can't find his shoes, and Democrats decide, okay,
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  Speaker 2: all of this downside is really worrying us. Then the
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: convention is the opportunity to parachute someone in. You parachute
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: someone in by having some story that for health reasons,
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: Biden's not able to continue. How the Democrats execute that exactly,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. But the Democrats are very big on
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  Speaker 2: smoke filled rooms and forcing through the outcome they want
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  Speaker 2: and they obey orders. Now, if you're a Democrat, pubah.
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  Speaker 2: And by the way, the Democrats also have what are
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  Speaker 2: called super delegates. Republicans don't have super delegates. Super delegates
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  Speaker 2: are typically elected officials that have disproportionate power at their convention.
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  Speaker 2: They have the ability to really move the votes. If
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  Speaker 2: you get to the August convention for Democrats and they've
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  Speaker 2: collectively lost their nerve on Biden said, it's time to
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  Speaker 2: put Joe out to pasture. What do they do then, Well,
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  Speaker 2: the natural thing to say would be, okay, it'll be
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  Speaker 2: one of those top four. And here's the problem. Whoever
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  Speaker 2: they pick is a problem. They pick Kamala Harris, She's
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  Speaker 2: the vice president in some ways the natural choice. All
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  Speaker 2: of the downsides of Kamala Harris make that a really
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  Speaker 2: dangerous choice. If they pick Gavin Newsom, that makes some
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  Speaker 2: California Democrats happy. The problem is you're replacing an African
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  Speaker 2: American woman in the Democrat Party with a white guy.
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  Speaker 2: That a rich white guy, a very rich white guy.
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  Speaker 2: You want to talk about a recipe for discontent. That's
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  Speaker 2: a big problem. They could go with Pete Boudhajeedge, another
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  Speaker 2: white guy, but Buddha Jedge is gay. That's at least
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: the gay lesbian community is a big chunk of the
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  Speaker 2: Democrat coalition. So rich liberals would really like Pete bootaj Edge,
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  Speaker 2: and a lot of the Democrat donors are gay and lesbian.
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  Speaker 2: That's a major chunk of the funding stream for a
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  Speaker 2: Democrat candidate. But you have the same problem if you
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• 17:37
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm pausing, and I'm reflecting, as we said, and
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  Speaker 3: I view this as a very serious danger.
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  Speaker 2: So, Michelle Obama, number one, you don't infuriate African American women,
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  Speaker 2: all fight it out. Next time. You're all going to
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: be on the same level. We're coming. This is the
• 19:27
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• 19:30
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  Speaker 2: I also think Michelle is not all that eager to
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: run for president, but to parachute in in August of
• 19:44
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• 19:47
  Speaker 2: suddenly wake up and be president not a bad gig.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: It's not a bad gig at all. Now would she
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• 19:57
  Speaker 2: don't know her personally in any meaningful way. I don't
• 20:00
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• 20:04
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• 20:07
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• 20:14
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• 20:22
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• 20:27
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• 20:30
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• 20:37
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• 23:23
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• 23:24
  Speaker 1: It's interesting that you said that about Michelle because I
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• 23:28
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• 23:56
  Speaker 1: as hell.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: And by the way, this is not a new thought
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: for Democrats. Had Bill Clinton who served two terms, and
• 24:02
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• 24:07
  Speaker 2: and so the dynamic from Barack to Michelle. Listen, the
• 24:12
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• 24:16
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• 24:20
  Speaker 2: claim to already being at a higher level in the
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• 24:34
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• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it comes with the best political campaigner in
• 24:38
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• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Plus, look, Michelle spent eight years as first lady. First
• 24:45
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• 24:49
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• 24:52
  Speaker 2: high positives and relatively low negatives. Now she starts getting
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: into policy, I think she is further left than Barack.
• 25:01
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• 25:04
  Speaker 2: think as a president she would be disastrous. But the
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: American people think not only of her because she's first Lady.
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  Speaker 2: The role of first lady insulates someone. And if she
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: parachutes in in August with big positives and relatively low negatives,
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• 25:22
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• 25:27
  Speaker 2: really potent politically. If I were a Democrat, I'd be
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: excited about that.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: There's also something else to happened this week with a
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Democratic primary that was shocking to me. You've had people
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: that made threats against you, You've run for president of
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: United States of America. I've experienced having people threatened against
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: me as well. It's not a good feeling. You look
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: at the Kennedy family and the fact that they've had
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: assassinations and targeting, and RFK has made it clear he
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: wants protection. There was something shocking that had this week
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: with a man that was dressed liked law enforcement. Thank goodness,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: they saw him, they figured it out. There were certain
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: things he was wearing in his outfit, the way where
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: his gun was being held on his person that didn't
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: fit law enforcement, and he was arrested. But you were
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: upset about this, I think as you should be, because
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: why have they still not decided to protect RFK and
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: what's taking them so long, especially when see things like
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: this happened.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this was a really disturbing security incident. You had
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: someone show up at an event for RFK Junior. He
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: had two firearms and two shoulder holsters that he was wearing.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: He was dressed as law enforcement, and it was fraudulent.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: He was dressed with a lanyard that indicated he was
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: a US marshal. He was trying to camouflage. He told
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: people he was part of rfk's security detail. Thankfully, the
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: private security that RFK hired recognized that he wasn't and
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: they detained and arrested him. But someone coming in with
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: two loaded firearms and extra magazines impersonating law enforcement is
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: on its face, exceptionally dangerous. Now, RFK put out the
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: following statement, We're gonna put it up on the screen.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Here's what RFK said. I'm very grateful that alert and
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: fast acting protectors from Gavin de Becker and associates his
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: private security firm spotted and detained an armed man who
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: attempted to approach me at my Hispanic Heritage speech at
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: the Wilshire Ebel Theatre in Los Angeles tonight. The man,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: wearing two shoulder hosters with loaded pistols and spare ammunition magazines,
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: was carrying a US Marshal badge on a lanyard and
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: at belt clip federal ID. He identified himself as a
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: member of my security detail. Armed GDBA team members moved
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: quickly to isolate and detain the man until LAPD arrived
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: to make the arrest. I'm also grateful to LAPD for
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: its rapid response. And then this is in bold in
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: his tweet. I'm still entertaining a hope that President Biden
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: will allow me Secret Service protection, the first presidential candidate
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: history to whom the White House has denied a request
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: for protection.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Now, can you explain the politics of that real quick.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: So people don't understand how this works.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let me do that in the way I'm going
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: to do that.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: I want to put up I retweeted this, and I
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: retweeted it with my own comment. So let's put up
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: what I tweeted. I retweeted RFK statement, and here's what
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: I said. This isn't a left or right issue. The
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Biden administration should give Robert Kennedy Junior a security detail now.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Given his tragic family history. Both his father and uncle
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: were horrifically assassinated and this latest serious security incident, Biden
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: shouldn't mess around. Under law, quote, major candidates are entitled
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: a secret service protection. Is Mayorcus's deceivision not to grant
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: protection political Surely this administration wouldn't put a man's life
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: at risk Rather than concede that RFK Junior is a
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: major candidate. The Trump DHS gave Biden protection in March
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: of twenty twenty after a security incident. MAJORCA should follow
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: that precedent and expeditiously approve protection for RFK Junior. Now,
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: the way it works under law is that a candidate
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: for president is entitled to secret Service protection if they
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: are a quote major candidate, and being a major candidate,
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: there are a series of criteria that are used to
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: ascertain major candidate, including poll numbers. It is the Secretary
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: of the Department of Homeland Security that makes that determination.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: They do so in consultation with a bipartisan advisory committee
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: that concludes both with Republicans and Democrats at the easy level,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: the major party nominees both are entitled to coverage, and
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: they both get it, but historically they get it earlier
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: than becoming the nominees. If you look at twenty sixteen,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: so I've got some real and personal experience with dealing
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: with this. In twenty sixteen, in the Republican presidential primary,
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump was given Secret Service protection relatively early on,
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: and Ben Carson was given Secret Service protection relatively early on. Now,
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Ben Carson did not win a single state. Ben Carson
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: was given Secret Service protection because the level of death
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: threats that were directed at him was deemed sufficient that
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: it merited Secret Service protection. I don't know exactly how
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: many death threats were talking about, but the Department of
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Homeland Security made the determination given this threat level, given
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: the risk that some lunatic would try to kill an
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: after Kann American Republican running for president, We're going to
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: provide Secret Service protection now. As the primary went on,
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: I won twelve states. For months, the race was essentially
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: a two man race between me and Donald Trump. No
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: other Republican other than Trump and I won more than
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: a single state. So John Kasik won Ohio, Marco Rubio
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: won Minnesota, and Trump and I won the other forty
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: eight states. And at the time that I dropped out,
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: I had won twelve and he had won something like
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: twenty two to twenty three states, so he'd won about
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: twice as many states.
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: That's when I dropped out.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: So for months earlier, I easily met the standard for
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: a major candidate, and had I requested Secret Service protection,
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: I almost certainly would have received it, because under any
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: objective measure, I met it. In twenty sixteen, I made
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: the decision not to ask for it. We talked about
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: it in our campaign because when Secret Service comes into
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: the campaign, they slow everything down. They come in, they
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: take over all the security, They set up magnetometers, they
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: set up metal detectors in the front of the events.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: That means people coming to your events often I'll have
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: to wait one two three hours in line.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: It slows the operation down.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Once you bring Secret Service in, typically a candidate will
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: do maybe two or three events a day because it
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: just slows the entire operation down. In twenty sixteen, we
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: were running fast and hard. I was doing in days,
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: six seven, eight, nine events a day.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, we were going fast.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: And I didn't want pump the brakes to pump the brakes,
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: I didn't want to slow it down. So we took
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: security very seriously. So I hired private security, and we
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: had significant private security. But I would do something at
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: the end of most events. I'd jump off the front
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: of the stage and I'd plow into the crowd and
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: I'd be hugging people, I'd be taking pictures, I'd be
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: talk to kids. I remember, Secret Service would never let
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: you do that.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: They would.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: You stay on the other side.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: And so we made the decision that we wanted to
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: be faster and more nimble, and that bringing Secret Service
• 33:14
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• 33:16
  Speaker 2: decision that we had a pretty significant investment in security,
• 33:20
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• 33:24
  Speaker 2: ensure safety while at the same time maintaining speed. In
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: this instance, you've got RFK Junior Number one, You've got
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: his unique personal story. His father was murdered while running
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: for president of the United States, Bobby Kennedy murdered as
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: a candidate for the Democratic nominee for president, and before that,
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: his uncle John F. Kennedy was murdered while being President of.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: The United States. Given that history and.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Given people are just not look at this guy, Coppy
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Katz and create look, I think it is a no
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: brainer that if RFK Junior wants Secret Service protection given
• 34:05
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• 34:10
  Speaker 2: the Biden administration hasn't granted it is because if they did,
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: under it genmizes him, they would have to say he's
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: a major candidate. And the approach of the Biden White
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: House is RFK who we never heard of him? Nope, Nope,
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: nobody running, nobody in the Democrat primary doesn't exist.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: This is a corrodation.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Joe's down in the basement, and I think it is
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: purely political. And I ask everyone listening to this, imagine
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: your reaction if you turned on the TV tomorrow and
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: saw that RFK Junior, like his father, was murdered while
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: being a candidate for the Democrat nomination for president.
• 34:51
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• 34:54
  Speaker 2: How do you justify the Biden administration saying nope, politics
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: matters more to us, So good luck you. Hope nothing happens.
• 35:01
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• 35:05
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• 35:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but you should.
• 35:06
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• 35:09
  Speaker 2: This is the right thing to do. And whether you're
• 35:11
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• 35:15
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• 35:19
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• 35:23
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• 35:27
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• 35:31
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• 35:34
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  Speaker 1: on to something else that happened this week, and this
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  Speaker 1: one actually makes me really angry. It's judges getting involved
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  Speaker 1: in a way that I think is pretty clear it
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  Speaker 1: to election interference. We've seen court dates that have come
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  Speaker 1: out now for Donald Trump, with all these different indictments
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  Speaker 1: in different states, that could be like the days before
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  Speaker 1: Super Tuesday, when any normal candate would be on the
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  Speaker 1: campaign trail. You just mentioned why you guys didn't do
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  Speaker 1: secret service. That's how important is to be to be
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  Speaker 1: fast and right to be campaigning. We're seeing two things
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  Speaker 1: now that seem to be marking the calendar. One, you
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  Speaker 1: could throw this guy into courtroom during dates when he
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  Speaker 1: descerately needs to be out campaigning, taking away his ability
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  Speaker 1: to have a fair election against Joe Biden or whoever
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  Speaker 1: it may be. And two, now you may take away
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  Speaker 1: the president form president. It's America and the leading can
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: it for the Republican party's voice to talk about the
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: accusations against him from these the leftists and these people,
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  Speaker 1: these DA's are trying to lock him up by putting
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  Speaker 1: a gag order on what he can say. This seems
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  Speaker 1: un American, it seems Banana Republic. Ask. I think it's
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  Speaker 1: disgusting political poy here. Yet that's what we're really talking
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  Speaker 1: about now, is that real possibility?
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  Speaker 3: Look, you're exactly right.
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  Speaker 2: We have talked at length on this podcast about how
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: the multiple indictments against Donald Trump are election interference. Democrats
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  Speaker 2: have convinced themselves that Donald Trump is Adolf Hitler, and
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: because they believe he's Hitler, anything, anything, anything is justified
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  Speaker 2: to stop him. The ends justify the means, and they're
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  Speaker 2: willing to corrupt the legal process to turn the Department
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  Speaker 2: of Justice into a political weapon. They're willing to do
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  Speaker 2: everything they can to stop the voters from daring to
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  Speaker 2: make a decision to vote in the way these angry
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  Speaker 2: partisan Democrats don't want the voters to vote. We've gone
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: over two hundred years of our nation's history. We've never
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: indicted a president or a former president, or a major
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: candidate for president. In the last six months, Democrats have
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: done so four separate times. The US Department of Justice
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  Speaker 2: under Biden is the most partisan and political we've ever seen.
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  Speaker 2: And Jack Smith, the special prosecutor, we've talked at length.
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  Speaker 2: He is a partisan. He has a history of abusing power,
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  Speaker 2: including this is not the first presidential candidate or potential
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  Speaker 2: presidential candidate he's gone after he went after Bob McDonald,
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  Speaker 2: the governor of Virginia, was considered a credible presidential candidate.
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  Speaker 2: Jack Smith indicted him, destroyed his political career, destroyed his life,
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  Speaker 2: and then on appeal, the Supreme Court unanimously throughout the
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: conviction as not being consistent with law. But he'd already
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  Speaker 2: done its job, which here out he took him out.
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  Speaker 2: In this instance, the case in the District of Columbia
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  Speaker 2: is profoundly dangerous. It's profoundly dangerous because number one, the
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  Speaker 2: jury pool in the District Columbia is over ninety percent
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  Speaker 2: about ninety four percent Democrat. So you're going to get
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  Speaker 2: a jury that in all likelihood hates Donald Trump and
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: believes he's Adolf Hitler. Now, if you believe someone's ad
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: Off Hitler, he's a victim. That's not a hard guilty
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  Speaker 2: for whatever the crime is Yeah, it's just you hate
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: if it's Adolf Hitler. Yes, we also have a district
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: judge who has demonstrated and earned a reputation as being
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: one of the furthest left Democrat district judges on the
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  Speaker 2: federal bench in d C. Who is presiding this trial
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: is designed to directly interfere with the election. But Jacksmith
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: said this is not enough, and so he filed a motion,
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: a motion for a gag order. So he's gone to
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: this left wing district judge and he's asked for a
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: gag order. He says, defendant has repeatedly and widely disseminated
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  Speaker 2: public statements attacking the citizens of the district Columbia. That's
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  Speaker 2: by daring to point out that ninety four percent of
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  Speaker 2: DC voters vote Democrat, and that's going to be the
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  Speaker 2: jury pool the court. That's by pointing out that the
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  Speaker 2: judge has a record of being one of the most
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  Speaker 2: left wing Democrats on the entire federal bench.
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  Speaker 3: Prosecutors.
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  Speaker 2: That's by pointing out that jack Smith is a hard
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  Speaker 2: core partisan Democrat, has already abused his power repeatedly and
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: prospective witnesses. The government therefore requests that the court quote
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  Speaker 2: enter a narrowly tailored order pursue into local criminal Rule
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  Speaker 2: fifty seven C that restricts certain prejudicial extra judicial statements,
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: And in particular, what they ask for the government seeks
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: this is a quote A narrow, well defined restriction that
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  Speaker 2: is targeted at extra judicial statements that present a serious
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  Speaker 2: and substantial danger of materially prejudicing the case. The government's
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  Speaker 2: proposed order specifies that such statements would include A statements
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  Speaker 2: regarding the identity, testimony, or credibility of prospective witnesses, and
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  Speaker 2: b statements about any party witness, attorney, court personnel, or
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  Speaker 2: potential jurors that are disparaging and inflamma territory or intimidating.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Now let's be clear who do they mean by potential witnesses.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: They mean people like Bill Barr yep, and they mean
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: people like Mike Pence. So Mike Pence is literally running
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: against Donald Trump right now for the Republican nomination for president.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: And you have the Biden Department of Justice asking a
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: federal judge issue an order that Donald Trump cannot say
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  Speaker 2: a critical word of Mike Pence about one of his
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  Speaker 2: opponents in the primary, Like, holy crap, if this doesn't
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  Speaker 2: piss you off, You're not paying attention. I mean, it
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: is truly breathtaking. You want to understand why this is
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: election interference? Jay believes the federal court can order one
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  Speaker 2: political candidate you're not allowed to criticize your opponent. Just
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: don't say a word. Don't say a word at all,
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  Speaker 2: despite the fact that you're facing a political persecution designed
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  Speaker 2: to interfere with the election, You're not.
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  Speaker 3: Allowed to say it.
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  Speaker 2: And if you do, by the way, look, a gag
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: order is typically enforced by contempt and by jail. So
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: what the Biden doj is proposing is if Donald Trump
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: says a negative word about Mike Pence, that the US
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: Department of Justice will show up and arrest him and
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: put him in jail for saying a negative word about
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  Speaker 2: one of his opponents running for president.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, they would do that. Let's be clear,
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  Speaker 1: they would love to arrest him again.
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  Speaker 2: That's what they want, and to keep him in jail.
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  Speaker 2: This is election interference. It is wildly unconstitutional. It is
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  Speaker 2: a direct violation of the First Amendment. It is also
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: a direct violation of the right to vote of our
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  Speaker 2: democratic process in this country. Now, the Democrat talking heads
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: will say, look, sometimes you have gag orders. If you're
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  Speaker 2: going against the mafia, bosh, you're going up against al Capone.
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  Speaker 2: Courts will enter orders saying, Okay, you can't intimidate witnesses,
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: you can't say things that will prejudice the jury. You're right,
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: in an ordinary criminal trial. Those things can happen. In
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: an ordinary criminal trial. The defendant is not a leading
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: candidate for president of the United States actively running for
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: president of the United States. And my guess, I don't
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: think the district court will grant this. I don't know that.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know this judge at all. I've never met her.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: Her record demonstrates she's left wing. But I think if
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: the district court granted this order, it would be exceptionally foolish.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: Why because the order would be appealed and it would
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: be overturned on appeal. I do not believe there's any
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: way the Supreme Court of the United States would allow
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: a leading candidate for president to be enjoined. To be
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: ordered from a court, you are not allowed to criticize
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: your political opponents. I mean, if you can envision, imagine debate,
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: let's we have a subsequent Republican debate. Trump shows up
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: and Mike Pence blasts him, and Trump turns and says,
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm prevented by court order from.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: Respond, yeah, from defending myself.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: That is not free speech, that is not democracy, that
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: is not how our system operates.
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  Speaker 1: And that's election interference.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: Exactly, perfect example of what capsulates. And by the way,
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: that's what they want, actually what they want. Look, they
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: know in that circumstance, Donald Trump could not restrain himself, sure,
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: and then they would arrest him.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: And then they would arrest him.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, you can almost envision the jack
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: booted thugs sitting by the side of the debate and
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: as Trump blasts his opponents, and he'll blast all his
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: opponents because that's what he does. You can almost envision
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: them walking out in the middle of the debate and saying, sir,
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: you're under arrest. If that is not election interference, holy cow,
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: it really shows just how extreme the Democrats have gotten.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: This is horrific. By the way, let's be clear, I
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: would be every bit as opposed to an order preventing
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: Joe Biden from criticizing his opponents from criticizing RFK Junior
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: from criticizing Donald Trump. Not to be clear, Joe Biden
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: couldn't get up in the morning and speak without criticizing
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump. He says, good morning. Trump is the devil.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: That's just how he addresses it. And he also demonizes
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: every other Republican because he's in his mental and feeblement,
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: he's also become an even more vicious partisan. But I
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: would be equally and animately opposed to any court trying
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: to prevent Joe Biden from attacking me or Trump or
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: anybody else, because that's what free speech and elections are
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: all about. But today's Democrats, they don't believe in democracy,
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: which is why these indictments are happening. They want to
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: stop the voters from voting in a way they don't like.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: And they don't believe in free speech, which is why
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: they want to muzzle their leading opponent for president. It
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: is it's a brave new world.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: We're living here.
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