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SCOTUS Throws a Tariff Curveball, Did SOTU move the Needle & 2 Olympians-Patriotism vs. Paycheck Week In Review · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome.
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  Speaker 2: It is Verdict with Ted Cruz Weekend Review. Ben Ferguson
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  Speaker 2: with you, and these are the stories that you may
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  Speaker 2: have missed that we talked about this week. First up,
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump still moving forward with tariffs even after there
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  Speaker 2: was a ruling for the Supreme Court. How was he
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  Speaker 2: able to do that and did he actually get advice
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  Speaker 2: from a Supreme Court justice? Yeah, he did, we'll tell
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  Speaker 2: you all about it. Also, the State of the Union speech,
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  Speaker 2: It moved the needle for Donald Trump with Americans, including
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  Speaker 2: some Democrats. What did he say that connected with so
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  Speaker 2: many Americans. We'll have that for you as well. And finally,
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  Speaker 2: an entering story out of the Olympics. Two different Olympians
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  Speaker 2: with hearts in different places, one skating their heart out
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  Speaker 2: for America and the other one saying, yeah, I may
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  Speaker 2: have grown up here, but I'd rather skate for China.
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  Speaker 2: That incredible story. In just a second, it's the weekend
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  Speaker 2: Review and it starts right now. All right, I want
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  Speaker 2: to move on to another issue. And we made predictions
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  Speaker 2: on this show. I should This is why I should
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  Speaker 2: say you made predictions on the show myself from them,
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  Speaker 2: I always.
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  Speaker 3: Look at this, who's wee? Ben throwing me overboard so.
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  Speaker 2: Fast, Centater, you made a prediction about the Supreme Court
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  Speaker 2: on tariffs. It was actually really funy. This morning, I
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  Speaker 2: was doing a Foxing Sunday shandn't bring much to me,
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  Speaker 2: She goes. I listened to y'all the show when you
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  Speaker 2: were making your predictions, because nine percent of the time
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  Speaker 2: Ted's right on the Spring Court, and he made a prediction.
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  Speaker 2: He thought it was going to go to the President's
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  Speaker 2: way on these It didn't. But there was also something
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  Speaker 2: interesting in there. Brett Kavanaugh wrote basically in there, and
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  Speaker 2: I found this incredibly interesting that hey, what we're saying
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  Speaker 2: you did, you can't necessarily do it that way. However,
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  Speaker 2: here is a way you can do it. It reminded
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  Speaker 2: me almost of like Obamacare, when they're like, well, if
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  Speaker 2: you do it this way, then you can get away
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  Speaker 2: with it, but the way you're doing it, don't keep
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  Speaker 2: doing it that way. Do it this other way. It
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  Speaker 2: was like a roadmap for him to still have tariffs,
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  Speaker 2: still have the power that the presidency needs to do this,
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  Speaker 2: and you saw the President jump all over that with
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  Speaker 2: a ten percent saying this ain't going away. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if this is a big of a defeat as
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  Speaker 2: Democrats and media are trying to make it to be,
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  Speaker 2: and the present incant response, I think it proves he
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  Speaker 2: still has a ton of power.
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  Speaker 3: Well, listen, I'm going to start by eating crow.
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  Speaker 1: I did make a prediction on this podcast, and I
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  Speaker 1: make a lot of predictions on this podcast, and we've
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  Speaker 1: never tallied the number, but I think we're north of
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  Speaker 1: eighty percent, and maybe even north of ninety percent.
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  Speaker 2: Right, I'm gonna get a credit it's above ninety because
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  Speaker 2: I make sure I give you a hard time when
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  Speaker 2: you're wrong, and that's not very often, so this is
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  Speaker 2: on that sheet. But you know, yeah, and.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, we don't make small and mild predictions.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean we make bold and aggressive predictions.
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  Speaker 1: In twenty twenty four.
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  Speaker 3: Were the biggest one, Yeah, Joe Biden. Let's let's just
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  Speaker 3: talk about it.
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  Speaker 1: I predicted that Joe Biden would not be the nominee
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  Speaker 1: a year before it happened, and said they are going
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  Speaker 1: to replace him, he is not going to be on
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  Speaker 1: the ballot November, and the corporate media made fun of
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  Speaker 1: me like crazy for that prediction.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, it was exactly right.
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  Speaker 1: We've made a lot of predictions we broke down in
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  Speaker 1: in March and April of the beginning of COVID. I
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  Speaker 1: laid out the evidence that the COVID virus escaped from
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  Speaker 1: a Chinese government lab right at the beginning, and the
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  Speaker 1: predictions and that we laid out there. The evidence we
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  Speaker 1: laid out there was was square on right. So I
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  Speaker 1: made a prediction that the Supreme Court five to four
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  Speaker 1: would uphold the president's use of Terroffts. That prediction proved false.
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  Speaker 1: What actually happened is six' three The court struck it.
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  Speaker 1: DOWN i also predicted That John roberts would write the majority.
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  Speaker 1: OPINION i guess that that did prove technically, accurate but
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  Speaker 1: he wrote the majority opinion going the other. Way here's
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  Speaker 1: WHY i thought The court was going to uphold the president's,
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  Speaker 1: Tariffs AND i, said they're a massive reliance. Interests there
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  Speaker 1: have been hundreds of billions of dollars of tariffs, collected
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  Speaker 1: and The court is reluctant to dramatically upset the status.
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  Speaker 1: Quo AND i did say if The court were deciding
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  Speaker 1: this issue a year, ago right at the beginning of
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  Speaker 1: The trump, ADMINISTRATION i, SAID i think they'd come.
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  Speaker 3: Out the other.
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  Speaker 1: Way but after a year, plus after this being central
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  Speaker 1: to the economic and foreign policy agenda of the, PRESIDENT
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  Speaker 1: i thought.
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  Speaker 3: The court would not struck it. Down that proved.
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  Speaker 1: Wrong but at the end of the, DAY i don't
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  Speaker 1: think it matters a whole. Lot let's cut to the.
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  Speaker 1: CONCLUSION i don't think the consequences of this decision are
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  Speaker 1: going to be all that. Much what the court decided
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  Speaker 1: narrowly is that one particular, STATUTE aipa does not give
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  Speaker 1: the president the authority to impose. Tariffs, now mind, YOU
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  Speaker 1: aipa gives the president the authority to quote regulate. Importations
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  Speaker 1: and so the majority opinion, concluded the president can ban
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  Speaker 1: an import from a, country can say we will import Zero.
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  Speaker 3: German cars Into.
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  Speaker 1: America he can do, that but he can't say we're
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  Speaker 1: going to charge a dollar for each one of Those german.
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  Speaker 3: Cars that is a pretty loopy.
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  Speaker 1: Inclusion AND i got to say the, Descents Justice kavanaugh
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  Speaker 1: wrote the lead, Dissent Justice thomas wrote an excellent. DESCENT
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  Speaker 1: i think the descents get the much better of the
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  Speaker 1: argument that the words That congress put in THE iepa
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  Speaker 1: statute regulate, importation And Justice thomas had had an originalist
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  Speaker 1: dissent where he goes through in the foreign policy, area in,
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  Speaker 1: particular the ability to import goods from other countries was
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  Speaker 1: never viewed as a. Right it was a privilege the
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  Speaker 1: government allowed you to. Do and in, fact tariffs were
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  Speaker 1: a major tool government used to regulate importation from other.
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  Speaker 1: Countries SO i think the majority decision is. Wrong but
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  Speaker 1: here's the thing that. Matters there are so many other
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  Speaker 1: statutes that allow the president to impose tariffs THAT i
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  Speaker 1: think we will see essentially the same. Regime it's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be a little more, complicated he's gonna have to do
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more, work it's going to require some
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  Speaker 1: more legal, proceedings BUT i think you're going to see.
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  Speaker 1: Him we saw immediately the president announced a ten percent
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  Speaker 1: tariff on every. Country he then upped that to fifteen.
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  Speaker 1: Percent BUT i think at the end of the, day
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  Speaker 1: The president will continue to use tariffs as a critical
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  Speaker 1: part of his foreign. Policy AND i, hope and we've
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  Speaker 1: talked about this On verdict, BEFORE i hope that he
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  Speaker 1: uses tariffs as leverage to open up foreign. MARKETS i
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  Speaker 1: don't want a world where we have high tariffs for,
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  Speaker 1: everyone BUT i do think tariffs are very powerful, leverage
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  Speaker 1: AND i think the president has ample authority to continue using.
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  Speaker 2: Them you know interesting about this when it, happened there
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  Speaker 2: was two people that were really, celebrating two, GROUPS i
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  Speaker 2: should say The Democratic party In, china And china was
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  Speaker 2: really celebrating. This and then they were talking about buying
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  Speaker 2: soybean crops from other countries instead Of, america and that
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  Speaker 2: was like one of the big things that really blew
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  Speaker 2: up in the media on social. Media and then you
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  Speaker 2: have the same excitement from The Chinese Communist party as
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  Speaker 2: you did from The Democratic. Party that tells me an
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  Speaker 2: awful lot about this tariff war. Issue this is just Two,
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  Speaker 2: democrats not about what's best For, america not about us
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  Speaker 2: having better trade. Deal it's not about Saving american jobs
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  Speaker 2: Or american, manufacturing protecting that or bringing jobs back to
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  Speaker 2: this country in manufacturing and bringing Back american businesses to our.
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  Speaker 2: Soil they just Want Donald trump to. Lose and they're
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  Speaker 2: on the same team With china on this.
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  Speaker 1: One. Yeah look that that's Where democrats, Are that's where
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  Speaker 1: much of the media. Is let me walk through two.
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  Speaker 1: Things Number, one there's gonna be some. Chaos one of
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  Speaker 1: the REASONS i didn't think The court would. Do what
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  Speaker 1: they did is you've got hundreds of billions of dollars
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  Speaker 1: of tariffs that's going to be. Collected there's gonna be massive.
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  Speaker 1: Litigation everyone that's paid the tariffs is gonna look at
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  Speaker 1: go DO i go?
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  Speaker 3: Back DO i? Sue DO i try to collect.
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  Speaker 1: It it's gonna vary in terms of whether they filed
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  Speaker 1: a timely protest to the. TARIFFS i think some of those,
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  Speaker 1: tariffs the litigation result is going to be, no you
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  Speaker 1: can't get it back because you didn't timely protest. It
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  Speaker 1: some of the people who paid tariffs will have timely protested,
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  Speaker 1: it and so there's a very good chance this is
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  Speaker 1: going to Cost american taxpayers billions of, dollars maybe even
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  Speaker 1: tens of billions of dollars or. More that litigation chaos
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  Speaker 1: will will unfold for. YEARS i didn't think The court
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  Speaker 1: would do. That but in terms of the president's ability
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  Speaker 1: to do, this so let me walk through some of
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  Speaker 1: the different statutes that are. Available there is number, one
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  Speaker 1: section three three eight of The Terriff act of nineteen
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  Speaker 1: thirty that's actually The Smoot Holly, act which authorizes The
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  Speaker 1: president to impose teriffs of up to fifty percent on
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  Speaker 1: imports from any country that, quote discriminates AGAINST us. Businesses
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  Speaker 1: the statute is vague and it is, short and no
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  Speaker 1: president has used this, authority so it's uncharted, area but
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  Speaker 1: it remains on the statute. Book so that's one. Area another,
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  Speaker 1: area which is where The president went pretty much, immediately
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  Speaker 1: Is section one twenty two of The Trade act of
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  Speaker 1: nineteen seventy. Four The section one twenty two gives The
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  Speaker 1: president the power to impose duties of up to fifteen
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  Speaker 1: percent for up to one hundred and fifty days in
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  Speaker 1: order to address, quote large and serious balance of payments.
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  Speaker 1: Deficits congress has to vote to extend them past the
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  Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty day, limit or else the duties,
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  Speaker 1: expire but The president is able to reissue them on.
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  Speaker 1: Expiration this is what The president used as a result
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  Speaker 1: immediately to impose the fifteen percent. Tariff so that's one,
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  Speaker 1: avenue and then that there are a couple of Other
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  Speaker 1: section three oh one of The Trade act of nineteen
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  Speaker 1: seventy four authorizes THE Us Trade representative to investigate and
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  Speaker 1: act upon results of an investigation revealing unfair trade. Practices
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  Speaker 1: section three oh one has been used quite a. Bit
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  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, four The biden administration opened three investigations
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  Speaker 1: under section three oh one and determined that the country
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  Speaker 1: had violated violated the provisions. There that's also what In
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  Speaker 1: trump's second, ADMINISTRATION Us Trade Representative's office has opened a
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  Speaker 1: three on one investigation Into brazil And, china and they're
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  Speaker 1: considering one For. Korea so section three oh one takes an.
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  Speaker 1: Investigation it's a little, slower but it gives more potent tariff.
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  Speaker 1: Authority there is Also section two thirty two of The
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  Speaker 1: Trade Expansion act.
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  Speaker 3: In nineteen sixty, two.
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  Speaker 1: And that allows the president to impose restrictions on goods
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  Speaker 1: and imports and following an investigation if it's found that
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  Speaker 1: the imports quote threatened to IMPAIR us national. Security So
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  Speaker 1: trump has used that for steel imports and aluminum. Imports
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  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, five he expanded steel in aluminum, teriffs
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  Speaker 1: increasing the aluminum rate to twenty five, percent eliminating all country.
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  Speaker 1: Exemptions to, date The trump administration has launched twelve Different
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  Speaker 1: section two thirty two, investigations concluded five and then there's
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  Speaker 1: Finally section two one of The Trade active of nineteen
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  Speaker 1: seventy four which permits temporary safeguard tariffs to protect domestic
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  Speaker 1: industries from serious injury caused by import.
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  Speaker 3: Surges trump has Used.
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  Speaker 1: Section two one to put tariffs on solar, cells on,
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  Speaker 1: modules and in residential washing. Machines look the long and
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  Speaker 1: short of, It you guys don't need to memorize all
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  Speaker 1: those different section. Numbers the point is they're a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of different federal laws that give the president a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of authority to impost. Tariffs the lawyers and the administration
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  Speaker 1: wire work a little bit, Harder As Justice kavanaugh said in,
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  Speaker 1: dissent at the end of the, day The Supreme court, said,
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  Speaker 1: well you check the wrong box and you pick the wrong,
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  Speaker 1: statute so these tariffs don't. Apply but the bottom line
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  Speaker 1: is going to be The president's going to be able
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  Speaker 1: to get there using other.
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  Speaker 3: Means, NOW i want to hear the rest of this.
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  Speaker 2: Conversation you can go back and listen to the full
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  Speaker 2: podcast from earlier this.
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  Speaker 3: Week now onto story number.
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  Speaker 4: Two the question THAT i have as a as a
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  Speaker 4: proper conservative who is always looking for the downside of
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  Speaker 4: things just to temper, my you, know. Jubilation do you
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  Speaker 4: THINK i think universally the speech was viewed as quite,
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  Speaker 4: good quite. Effective does it make a meaningful difference in the?
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  Speaker 1: Midterms, LOOK i think it. Does do you all, right
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  Speaker 1: lay out What i'll tell you.
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  Speaker 2: Why this speech was the things that Irritate republican slash
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  Speaker 2: moderate voters About, trump that it's all about, him and
• 12:46
  Speaker 2: he doesn't know when to you know, that the mean
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  Speaker 2: tweets and to when to shut, up and and and
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  Speaker 2: the things that irritate those that can stay. Home watching
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  Speaker 2: his demeanor, tonight he came across in such a way of,
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  Speaker 2: like these guys don't want, This these guys don't put you,
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  Speaker 2: First these guys don't do. This he also was giving
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  Speaker 2: incredible accolades and awards and THE us hockey. Team there
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  Speaker 2: was momentum. There it was one after. Another it was
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  Speaker 2: one hundred year old, man a. Veteran it was the
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  Speaker 2: guy who was flying the, helicopter The chinook and telling a.
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  Speaker 2: Story he was praising what Makes america great and the
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  Speaker 2: people that Make america. GREAT i actually think that if
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  Speaker 2: you are a moderate, voter someone maybe A republican that
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  Speaker 2: traditionally stays home during the, MIDTERMS i actually think that
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  Speaker 2: this speech landed with you more than any other speech
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  Speaker 2: Of trump the way it played ON. TV i think
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  Speaker 2: it also is going to land on the economic issues
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  Speaker 2: of him reminding the no tax on, tips the no
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  Speaker 2: tax on, Overtime i'm trying to make life more, affordable
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  Speaker 2: the gas. Prices those are things THAT i actually, think,
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  Speaker 2: well you, know they've been hammering him on all the
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  Speaker 2: approval rings at forty this or thirty nine or thirty
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  Speaker 2: depending on. POLL i think it's a bump that actually
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  Speaker 2: stays because he landed it so well in the, audience
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  Speaker 2: and he looked really, Calm he looked really just Like
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  Speaker 2: i'm doing this BECAUSE i want to fix the, country
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  Speaker 2: and other speeches haven't come across that way.
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  Speaker 1: Always, yeah let me agree with. You and THEN i
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  Speaker 1: think the message tonight was the record of the last.
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  Speaker 3: Year.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah the record of the last, YEAR i believe is objectively. Phenomenal.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah And i've been in The senate now fourteen. Years
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  Speaker 1: we've never had a year where we've accomplished even a
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  Speaker 1: fraction of what we did has been accomplished in the last.
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  Speaker 1: YEAR i, mean it is. Staggering and he did a good.
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  Speaker 1: Job you, know we talked about on the last pod
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  Speaker 1: HOW i spent thirty forty minutes on the phone With
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: trump last, week and one of the things we talked
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: about was messaging for the, midterms AND i, said, listen
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: we need to focus on, results on the very real
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  Speaker 1: results securing the, border nine and nine percent drop in elou.
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  Speaker 1: Crossings and THEN i encouraged him a message that's not
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: getting the attention it should is the impact on. Crime,
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: yes they murder rates have dropped twenty, percent drug overdose
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  Speaker 1: deaths have dropped twenty. Percent they're literally thousands Of americans
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  Speaker 1: who were alive today Because trump was elected And republicans Won.
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: Congress it's a great message and that's been. Lost AND
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: i was really, happy like the first twenty minutes of
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: the speech were laying out that message and going through
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: murder rates and crime rates and D c rates and
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: like how unhappy The democrats were that crime rates had
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: plummeted in D. C And New orleans and your hometown Of. Memphis. Memphis,
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  Speaker 1: yeah The democrats were furious that fewer people are being.
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: Murdered they wouldn't stand up on mass for murder. Declining
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  Speaker 4: you know. THIS i was looking at the polls and
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  Speaker 4: aggregate of the polls from Just january And february leading into,
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  Speaker 4: this and to.
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  Speaker 1: Be, fair the pro murder community In america is pretty.
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  Speaker 1: Small it is, look it's a, constituency but it's not
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  Speaker 1: the one you. Want and SO i was.
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  Speaker 4: Looking at as aggrit of, Polls, MARIS, pbs a handful of,
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  Speaker 4: others and the hard FACT i spoke to some members
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  Speaker 4: Of congress about this. Today the hard fact Is republicans
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  Speaker 4: are underwater on the, economy on economic. PERCEPTION i think
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  Speaker 4: you could could turn it, around but right now we're
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  Speaker 4: a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Underwater on.
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  Speaker 4: Healthcare democrats always went on healthcare and on a defensive
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  Speaker 4: democracy or it's kind of a contrived, category but, anyway
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  Speaker 4: they went on. That so the ones that we're winning
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  Speaker 4: on right now quite decisively are immigration and border, enforcement
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  Speaker 4: even more so now the border is shut, down and
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  Speaker 4: especially on. Crime so the, key it seems to, me
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  Speaker 4: is one that tells you people are concerned about, safety and,
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: two if you can tie all of that, together the
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: crime relates obviously to illegal, immigration that's why it's called
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  Speaker 4: Illegal and the housing prices even get the way to
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: the you know the fact that you have six months
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: consecutive decline on housing prices coinciding with mastery petition.
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  Speaker 1: Too million people being deported and that's just less, demand you.
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  Speaker 1: Know by the, way like a couple of weeks, ago
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: The Houston chronicle had a front page story that said
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  Speaker 1: murder rates In houston have declined eighteen percent, Yep And
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: heidi showed me the article because she knew it pissed
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: me off because the, article, yes the article The chronicle
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  Speaker 1: says nobody can figure out. Why it's completely. Inexplicable the
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: experts we talk about have no idea why the murder
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  Speaker 1: rate is, dropping and it like doesn't occur to them
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: that arresting and deporting murderers and gang bangers will reduce
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: the murder. Rate like it's. Not this is not rocket.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Science fewer murderers means fewer, murders but yet To democrats
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: that makes no sense to. Them, yeah and so that
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: message was. GOOD i also liked on no tax on
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: tips that he had the mom who is the waitress
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: stand up and he, said between no tax on tips
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: and no tax on, overtime she's going to take home
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: five thousand more dollars this year than last. Year that
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: was real and it's not. Abstract and by the, way
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: The democrats wouldn't applaud for like the mom waiting. Tables
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: they're not rooting for, her and they want to take
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: that five thousand dollars and that's real.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: Money you, know five thousand dollars is real. Money it's
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: not some. Abstraction so nuts and. Bolts you, know if
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: this was a, speech obviously you're at the, midterms do
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: you think it moves the?
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: NEEDLE i did keep message discipline of focusing on. It.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: Yes by the, way, yes yesterday, morning you And adam
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: talking about. THIS i had breakfast A Speaker johnson and
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: you talk about the reason WHY i think this one.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Sticks there is a very real sense That republican leadership
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: have our act together for once that we haven't had
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: in a long.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: TIME i also think that.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Matters Speaker johnson understands he basically has a one person
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: majority he does not want to, have And President trump
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: doesn't want to have The democrats take over The. House
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: it is insanely. Slim AND i think they're working so
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: well together the same Way center that you work so
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: well with The. President there does seem to be that
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: we're actually on the same team for. Once i've not
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: experienced that many times in my life in The Republican.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Party like there's always the. Infighting we always not as
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: screwed up when we get. Power there's different people jocking for.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Positions there does seem to be a little bit of
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: momentum now that we're on the same team going the.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Midterms that's the other REASON i think this speech will
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: continue in the momentum because you Have johnson others.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Advocating, LOOK i hope so to Play devil's. Advocates we're
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: a very divided, country and so the people who Hate
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: trump still hate them after the, speech for, sure if
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: they're not actually. Listening and SO i do Think, ben
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: you focused on the right, area which is the people
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: who voted for him in twenty four but maybe demoralized
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: by the press narrative that has been, driven and to
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: the extent this focuses them On, wow we're winning some,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: big big. VICTORIES i also really Liked, look the no
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: tax on tips EMPHASIS i liked BECAUSE i wrote that.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Bill AND i really liked his emphasis on The trump accounts,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: because as you guys, KNOW i wrote that, too and
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: The democrats wouldn't applaud for.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: That i'm, SORRY i actually have to pause here Because
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: i'm sitting in the upper part of the gallery to the.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: Right if you're the president appointing and you didn't get
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: everyone was standing up at certain. Moments that was one
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: WHERE i bolted up and other people were kind of.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: SLOWER i think they didn't quite process what The trump accounts.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: Meant i'm really into The trump. Accounts like The trump
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: ACCOUNTS i think are such a white, pill you, know
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: focusing on which is an existential. Issue it's so, practical
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: And i'm going to confess. SOMETHING i should follow. This i'm, like,
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: Professionally i'm supposed to follow this. CLOSELY i did not
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: know that you were pushing The trump. Accounts you were,
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: THERE i wrote it. Unbelievable should have, known BUT i didn't.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Know in. Fact do you want to hear the story
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: of the origin of The trump. Accounts it's a cool.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Story i've told it on the, pod but not in a.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: While so they originated from a poker game In. Vegas
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: typically several poker pros will. Come i'm buddies with a
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: number of the poker, pros and so we're sitting at
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: The bellagio three in the morning And Phil, hellmuth who's
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: one of the greatest poker players to have ever. Lived
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: phil would tell you he is the greatest poker player
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: to ever. Lived and he's got a real argument to.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: It he's GOT i, think fifteen, bracelets so it's it's.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Crazy that's a. Lot so we're sitting there playing poker
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: and he asks, me he, says, hey do you Know
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Brad Gerster and at the TIME i, Didn't i'm, like,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: yeah who's? He and he's a very successful venture capitalist
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: In Silicon valley and he has this idea that was
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: called Invest. America And i'm, like what's? That And phil
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: describes it for a, minute AND i, said, hey that
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: sounds like Something i'd be really interested. In and So
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: phil pulls out his phone and he puts together a
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: text thread and connects me And brad and, says you
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: too should. Talk you would really like each. Other the next,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: Week brad gets on a, plane flies TO, dc comes
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: to my office and pitches the Invest america. ACCOUNTS i
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: immediately called my policy team in and, said let's start drafting.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: This so we drafted the. Legislation, Now brad has said
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: for months he had talked to a bunch of other
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: senators and none of them did a damn. Thing. Huh
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: he talked to them and they'd all kind of nod
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: and be, like, yeah, yeah that's a great, idea and
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: then no one would do. Anything we sat down and
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: wrote the. Bill that is the bill that Is Trump.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Accounts it was my bills great that we. Wrote it's.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Great and it is literally the case that If Phil
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: hellmuth does not connect me With Brad Gersner april a year,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: ago there are No trump accounts and The american the
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: kids Of america do not have trillions and, investments which
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: is what they're going to have Through trump accounts as.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Before if you want to hear the rest of this
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: conversation on this, topic you can go back and dow
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: the podcasts from earlier this week to hear the entire.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: THING i want to get back to the big story
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: number three of the.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: Week you may have.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Missed all, Right, sanata let's talk about The. Olympics there
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: were so many cool stories out of The. Olympics obviously
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: celebrating hockey that kind of took everything over when that,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: happened but there were some other really incredible and important
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: stories in These, olympics and one of them that just
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: is something we got to talk about is involved not
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Only china but Also america's gold medalists who won in figure.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Skating it's an amazing.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Story, well, look we obviously have the incredible victory of
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: winning the gold in both men's hockey and women's, hockey
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: AND i got to say that moment was. Extraordinary at
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: The state of The, union it was wonderful to see
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: the men's gold Winning olympic hockey team. There the pride
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: they had For america was. Fabulous but there's also a
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: story that got some. Coverage BUT i think it's worth
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: going back and focusing because it was a powerful, contrast
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: and it was a contrast between Two. Olympians it was
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: a contrast Between Alyssa lu And Eileen. Goo now both
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: are women Of chinese. Heritage One, alyssa competed for The United,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: states the, Other, eileen competed For. China let's start With
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: alyssa Because alyssa's story is, extraordinary AND i want to
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: read from a tweet from a fellow Named afshine M.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: RONNIE i don't know who this person, is BUT i
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: thought the way he wrote it was very Effect here's
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: what he, Said the Ultimate american revenge, Story the script
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: couldn't have been have written it. Better in nineteen eighty,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Nine Arthur liu Fled china as a political refugee after
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: The Tieneman square. Massacre he came To america with nothing
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: but a dream.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: For a free.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Life decades, later his, Daughter Alyssa lu became the face
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Of TEAM, usa but THE ccp didn't. Forget before the
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: twenty Twenty Beijing, olympics THE fbi uncovered a brazen spying.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Operation the Target alissa and her. Father The chinese government
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: tried to stalk them ON us, soil intimidate her into,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: silence pressure her to turn her back on the country
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: that gave her family. Refuge THE fbi had to give
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: them twenty four to seven security just so she could.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Compete she faced, intimidation refused to be a. Pawn she
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: walked away from the sport for two years to find
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: her soul, again and then she came back with a.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Vengeance today the story is. Complete in a flawless performance
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: To Donna Summers MacArthur, Park Alyssa leud just did the
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Impossible olympic, gold the First american woman to win individual
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: gold in twenty four. Years she didn't just skate for a.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Medal she skated for the freedom her father risked everything.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: For she didn't just win for, herself she won for
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: the flag that protected her family when the world felt.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Small that's what a patriot looks. Like NOW i gotta,
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: SAY i want to give listeners some background into this.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Show the way you AND i record this. Spot as
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: we sit down right before recording, it and we go
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: through all the story they're in the, news we, sar
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: what do we want to talk? About and by the,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: way the pod is not scripted like you AND i
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: don't know what we're gonna.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: Say we just sort of talk about.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Topics we pick a couple of topics and riff on
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: it AND i want everyone to. Know ben is, like, no, no,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: NO i don't want to cover this. Story ben, SAID
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: i Hate, AMERICANS i Hate. Olympians, YEAH i can't, skate.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: And, True i'm a very good skater And i'm secretly a.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Communist okay there Were, okay, YEAH i got.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: It, OKAY i see where we're going.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: Here now are you a good? SKATER i suck at.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: Skating i'm a horrible.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Skater so my dad's you, know from up. North and
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: that was like one. Thing it would take us skating
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: his kids and then we would skate on the. Ponds
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: we went To North. Dakota so, Yeah i've been skating
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: a long.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: Time i'm an unbelievably bad.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: SKATER i basically wobble around the skate rink and hold
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: onto the walls the whole. Time it's, terrible like four
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: year olds come skating past me and or like get
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: out of the, way like you you terrible.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: THING i can picture, this AND i believe you completely
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: That you're not over selling that point at.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: All i'm. Not but let's just say for the, RECORD
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: i can kick your ascid. Basketball and to be, Clear
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: i've broken your finger playing.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: Basketball that is.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: True the game the a. Part at some point we
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: might need a one on one game just so the
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: audience shows the.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Score, Here i've just, said all, right, look look you've
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: got mass and. Strength but But i'm Just i'm just,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: saying you can't shoot to save your. Life all?
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: Right why DID i want to cover this?
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Story, look some of it is as the child of
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: a refugee From. CUBA i Find Alyssa lou's story. INSPIRATIONAL
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: i find.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: It now you identify with it's incredible.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: And and and, listen there's a contrast with her And Eileen. Gou,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: now NOW i want to say. Something So Eileen gu
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: is also Of chinese. Heritage she's a student At.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: Stanford alyssa's a figure.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: Skater she won the. Gold Eileen gu is a downhill.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: Skier she won two. Silvers both were offered the opportunity
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: From china that The Chinese communist government, said we will
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: give you millions of dollars to compete For. China literally.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Millions you're not, joking like some report's been upwards of
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: six million.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Plus, yeah like massive amounts of. Money And eileen said,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: yes And alyssa said. No, NOW i got to, say
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: in the conservative, media there's been a world of hate
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: pounded and dumped On.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: Eileen i'm not in that.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Camp, look she's a like twenty year old college. KID
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: i don't have any hate or animosity to. HER i.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: UNDERSTAND i, mean, look IF i were in, college no
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: one there been reports she received like fourteen million. Dollars
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: no one ever offered me fourteen million dollars in. COLLEGE
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: i understand. That and there is something of a tradition
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: in The. Olympics you think about THE nba where you
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: have all these.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: Stars you, Know Victor.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Webba yamu in THE nba competes For, France alpa And
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: shengoun competes For. Turkey they have lots of people who
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: are from other countries compete for other countries and no
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: one is horrified and they're not like you're a horrible human.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Being but let me say here's the.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: Difference it's. Different it is, different but go.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Ahead it's the reason why it's this one's different is
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: when you grow up In america and you do everything
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: In america and you're part of this country and this
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: country supports, you and then because someone throws money at,
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: you you defect to Communists. China that's the difference between
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: if you come into the league from another country and
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: you play in THE nba and then you go back
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: To like WHEN i played, tennis a lot of the
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: guys from smaller countries would go back and Play Davis
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: cup or The olympics for their. Team it was, Awesome
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: like there was teammates of mine that made Their olympic.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Team there was from you, Know kazakhstan or smaller nations
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: and they were the best in their. Country that's not
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: defecting From, america, Right but when you're In america and
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Your american says and then you're, like all, Right i'm
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: literally defecting and gonna go do this For china and
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: it's solely for a big. Payday it was from an athlete,
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: STANDPOINT i get the. Money but it is different than
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: if you're in THE nba and you're From france like
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Mart gasol And Pau gasol and they go and play
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: against THE usa in that, Game, LIKE i have no
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: qualms about.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: That that's where you were. Raised to be, clear The
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: gasols are From, spain Not. France different wherever it. Is
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: but We latins don't like when you call Us french like.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: That that is getting it. Wrong mark there you, Go,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: okay you are right that it's. Different you, Know Victor Wemenyama's.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: French you grew up In, france like his whole background is.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: That so it is different when you go and play
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: for the country you were born and grew up. In
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Both alyssa And eileen were born in and grew up In,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: america so that is.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: Different that being said, that there.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Was some real vitriol directed At eileen and, listen she's
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: a twenty year Old olympic. ATHLETE i don't have anger towards.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Her but my view is. Simple if you DECIDE i
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: want to compete For, CHINA i want to win the
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: gold medal For, china you can do. That but you
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: know what you're, SAYING i want one point three billion
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: people In china to root for, me AND i want
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: to beat The United states Of. America, well you know,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: What i'm not going to root for. You i'm going
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: to root for The for the athletes that Say i'm
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: competing For, America i'm. NOT i thought people were a
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: little bit overwrought in Condemning. AILEENU i don't know her at,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: all and she's a talented athlete and, she's you, know
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: a twenty year old. Kid but she made the decision
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: she wants The chinese to root for and she does
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: not Want america to root. For and to be, clear
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: when she made that, decision she's, SAYING i want The
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: United states Of america to. Lose, yeah that's a DECISION
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: i disagree. With and the contrast With Alyssa, liu she
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: was offered millions of.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: Dollars, SENATOR i also think just really cool part of
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: the story Is alisalu's. Father we mentioned that. Earlier, yeah but,
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: like this is a guy that sacrificed, everything had to
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: flee the, country comes To. America he is literally being
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: attacked and still being hunted by The chinese government to
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: the point where THE fbi is coming after, him and
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: on top of, that stays focus to make his daughter
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: An olympic gold medalist while having to look over his
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: shoulder to the point where THE fbi had to give him.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Protection that's the best part of the story as. Well
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: they love this. Country they didn't take the. Money by
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: the way they took the, Money i'm assuming they wouldn't
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: need protection.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: Anymore, Right, look he was incredibly.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Driven he raised his. Daughter she was. Extraordinary AND i
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: will say one aspect.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: Of this story THAT i really.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: Like according to The, internet according To, twitter Apparently Alisa
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: lou is politically liberal and so leftists are like, you
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: conservatives can't cheer her on because she is allegedly. WOKE
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: i don't know she's politically, liberal liberal or, not but
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: you know, WHAT i don't care.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: Care she competed For.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: America when she was standing, there she had The american
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: flag around her. Shoulder she's tearing up as as The
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: star spangled. Banner she he's cheering For america And i'm
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: cheering for. Her AND i don't give a damn if
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: she votes For Barack obama Or Joe. Biden she's An
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: american And i'm proud to cheer her.
• 34:08
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• 34:27
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