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Geoff Pope Full Interview · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: But next guest, I'm excited to have him on the phone,
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Speaker 1: his own whole. He's a super Bowl champion with the
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Speaker 1: New York Giants. You know when once you want the
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Speaker 1: super Bowl, you always super Bowl champion. You know when
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Speaker 1: out with the Wolves, not with former, you are a
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Speaker 1: super Bowl Champion. He's the founder of the a LCR,
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Speaker 1: which is a digital platform to share his unique perspectives
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Speaker 1: on social and political issues. The LCR has garner a
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Speaker 1: great attention from the academic community regarding this ability to
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Speaker 1: create significant social change. He is a philanthropist and entrepreneur.
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Speaker 1: He is currently a vice president and a publicly traded
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Speaker 1: risk management firm, where he specialized in the managing in
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Speaker 1: managing risk for financial institutions and technology companies. Please welcome
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Speaker 1: to money making conversation. Jeff Pope. How you doing, sir?
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Speaker 1: I'm doing. What are you doing today? Pretty good? What
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Speaker 1: part of the country? And Mrs Pope, what part of
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Speaker 1: the country? A year? I'm in Philadelphia, Oh, Philly, home
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Speaker 1: of the last Super Bowl championship. He's just like hanging
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Speaker 1: around champions. I'm assuming that's uh, that's your brand. Huh yeah.
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Speaker 1: I love phill Well, you know, I I love taking
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Speaker 1: a seller from from New York through phill A down
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Speaker 1: to d C is one of my favorite rides I take.
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Speaker 1: And now somebody fairly a lot? And so are you
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Speaker 1: based there? For your for your entrepreneur, for your back,
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Speaker 1: for you, what you're doing in your business life? Why
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Speaker 1: are you based in Philly now? So? Um Philly was
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Speaker 1: the last team I played for, the Eagles, UM and
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Speaker 1: so when I got hurt in two thousand and ten,
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Speaker 1: I just fell in love with the East Coast. Transferred
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Speaker 1: to Howard University. I played for New York for a while,
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Speaker 1: and I would always come back to DC to train
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Speaker 1: in the off seats. Them so um being from Detroit
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Speaker 1: and it being around two ten when the crafts hit. Um,
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Speaker 1: you know, the economy was hit hard, obviously, probably harder
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Speaker 1: in the Midwest and a lot of other areas. I
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Speaker 1: just knew I want to come back out to the
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Speaker 1: East coast, right, So I I mentioned several things in
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Speaker 1: your in your credits. First of all, congratulations on making
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Speaker 1: the transition from what won't consider an athlete until the
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Speaker 1: entrepreneur world, because a lot of a lot of people
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Speaker 1: don't see that happening. They don't understand how can that
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Speaker 1: transition happen? How were you able? Did you start uh
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Speaker 1: as a high schooler or in college? Did you have
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Speaker 1: the entrepreneurial spirit? Then? How did it? How did it
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Speaker 1: develop for you? Mr Pope? Uh? Well for me, Um,
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Speaker 1: you know, I grew up in a single parent house,
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Speaker 1: so my mom and grandma raised me, which I know
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Speaker 1: we're similar to a lot of us out there. And
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Speaker 1: so you know, growing up in Detroit, a tough environment,
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Speaker 1: tough community. You know, they did everything they could right
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Speaker 1: to kind of keep me on the on the straight
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Speaker 1: in their path. And so UM, I had an opportunity
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Speaker 1: to up to an all boys Jesuit high school. Um,
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Speaker 1: that really kind of laid the foundation as far as
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Speaker 1: like business and finance. And so when I went to
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Speaker 1: Eastern Mission University on a fourth athletic scholarship, I really
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Speaker 1: didn't even think about the NFL until I was able
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Speaker 1: to clock a four to forty and a forty yard dash, um,
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Speaker 1: and so from their NFL became a reality. But I
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Speaker 1: always knew you too far. You just threw that out
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Speaker 1: there like everybody just sprinting just out there until I
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Speaker 1: was able that you you were fast. Now you just
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Speaker 1: suddenly came up and clocked for too far there? Why
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Speaker 1: did that happen? And so so I never ran track
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Speaker 1: in high school, and uh, um, you know, I ended
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Speaker 1: up somehow, I ended up talking too much smack, and
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Speaker 1: I ended up challenging another football player who was a
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Speaker 1: senior who happened to be the track star. Right, he
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Speaker 1: had the records, right, And I mean I beat him
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Speaker 1: pretty pretty well in a foot race. This was probably
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Speaker 1: my sophomore. Here is my sophomore in high school. And
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Speaker 1: so then it was like, well, look if he got
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Speaker 1: all the records and he just lost to you, you
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Speaker 1: should probably run track. So so I ran track my
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Speaker 1: last years in college and I was able to run
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Speaker 1: some some pretty fast times. We still got a lot
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Speaker 1: of state and meet records actually dating back to two
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Speaker 1: thousand two. But from there, um, that's when I knew
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Speaker 1: I was fast, But it didn't hit me that I
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Speaker 1: had elite speed until I was able to beat him.
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Speaker 1: And this kid, you know, he had literally every record
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Speaker 1: in the city in the high school, right, so that
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Speaker 1: was pretty much the blueprint. Yeah, so so basically you're
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Speaker 1: a natural athlete. Can we say that it's probably my
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Speaker 1: Jamaican blood, but yeah, I always gets well, all the
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Speaker 1: sprinters come from Jamaica. Now, all the sprinters come from Jamaica.
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Speaker 1: So so you know, I know thised near Bio and said,
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Speaker 1: you overcame a lot of diversity, you know, growing up
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Speaker 1: and to be where you were at today. And we're
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Speaker 1: gonna we have have two breaks, so we're really getting
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Speaker 1: detail about what you're doing today. When you said adverse
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Speaker 1: to what exactly does that mean? Absolutely? So? I mean,
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Speaker 1: you know, one, I think, you know, not enough people
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Speaker 1: give young people of color coming from tough environments enough
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Speaker 1: credit right for making it. But too, you know, when
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Speaker 1: I got to Eastern Michigan, you know, I was playing
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Speaker 1: a lot, and I had a devastating injury. I tored
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Speaker 1: my quadra set off the bone, um, which is you
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Speaker 1: know the quad there's four obviously there's four parts of
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Speaker 1: that much. So that's the biggest muscle in your body, right,
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Speaker 1: And so you know, you often hear about a c
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Speaker 1: l s and ncs, you don't really hear about quads.
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Speaker 1: And so, um, they was they was prepared. When I
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Speaker 1: say day, I mean the coaching staff of the medical
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Speaker 1: staff at Eastern Michigan was pretty much prepared to hang
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Speaker 1: it up for me, you know what I mean. UM say, look, well,
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Speaker 1: I know your scholarship, you'll never had a speed that
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Speaker 1: you want to had. You probably won't even be able
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Speaker 1: to play competitive at this Division one level. We're ready
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Speaker 1: to hang it up for you. And I wasn't ready
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Speaker 1: to hang it up. And so I found I finally
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Speaker 1: found a doctor that would approved my rehab um and
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Speaker 1: once I came back, the biggest test for me was
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Speaker 1: to be able to come back from that injury and
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Speaker 1: still running four to forty, right, And I was able.
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Speaker 1: I was able to do that. And I'm talking about
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Speaker 1: rehabbing for ten months, six hours a day, six days
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Speaker 1: a week, right, um. And so I came back from
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Speaker 1: that injury, um, and still had the speed and despite
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Speaker 1: being a starter, despite playing as you can imagine, the
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Speaker 1: relationship was just I mean, it was just torn between
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Speaker 1: me and them. And so my high school coach said, look,
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Speaker 1: I know a coach at Howard University and they're actually
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Speaker 1: putting defensive backs in the NFL. And I had a
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Speaker 1: I had an underclassman draft grade. But that coach, who
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Speaker 1: was by the name of Keith Gilmore, I forever be thankful,
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Speaker 1: drove all the way from d C to Detroit to
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Speaker 1: look at me and my mom in his face and said, look,
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Speaker 1: I take care of your kids. If he transferred to Howard,
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Speaker 1: I take care of your kid. And he did that,
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Speaker 1: and I transferred the Howard. Um. You know, it was
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Speaker 1: ever going to overcome that injury. And even though didn't
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Speaker 1: get drafted one on a Howard Bison. So you can't
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Speaker 1: lose with that, right, you know. I went on went
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Speaker 1: on to the NFL and played four years. I got
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Speaker 1: my pension before I got hurt again. So now now
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Speaker 1: that's important that first of all, I always when it's
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Speaker 1: about relationships and people believing in you, I think that
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Speaker 1: and then you took it. You took advantage of somebody
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Speaker 1: believing in you. And that's the situation with him and
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Speaker 1: going to Howard. So when you talk to young people
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Speaker 1: about aspirations or next level opportunity, what do you Because
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Speaker 1: you do a lot of public speaking, what do you
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Speaker 1: talk about? I always tell them, you know, it's funny
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Speaker 1: to look at me and I'm not this six five
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Speaker 1: and sixty pound cat, right, you know, I'm six ft
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Speaker 1: butt ninety. I'm my average dude. And so I always
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Speaker 1: tell them, I say, look, there's nothing wrong with wanting
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Speaker 1: to go to the NBA or the NFL. But two
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Speaker 1: things you should realize. One, less than one percent of
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Speaker 1: high school cast is making it death far right, So
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Speaker 1: in anything that has a probability less than one percent,
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Speaker 1: it's probably not a good goal. Right. Um, that's that's
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Speaker 1: number one. Right, let's just look at the numbers. And
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Speaker 1: then number two. All them cats that you see on Sunday,
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Speaker 1: even me, who looks like a regular guy, got something
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Speaker 1: that you can't teach. Um, something that you can't coach.
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Speaker 1: That's something that God said. You know what, you know what, Jeff,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna make you ridiculously fast. You know what, Um,
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Speaker 1: Jason Witten, I'm gonna make you six ft six right. Um.
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Speaker 1: So when you factor that in, you know that should
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Speaker 1: be the backup plan, right, you know that should be
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Speaker 1: the backup plan. But when you look at all these
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Speaker 1: other professors that we can easily do if we apply
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Speaker 1: ourselves right, whether it's engineering, medicine, finance, economics, whatever it is,
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Speaker 1: that just takes us applying ourselves right, and and and
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Speaker 1: the probability to do that can be a right. So
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Speaker 1: so often, so many of our young people are spinning
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Speaker 1: their wheels, putting all their eggs in this NFL, NBA basket.
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Speaker 1: And I gotta tell them, you know, some of that
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Speaker 1: side of your control. Everything has to go right. It's
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Speaker 1: just a really bad goal to half for a young
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Speaker 1: minority sixty seventy year old looking at these cats on
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Speaker 1: TV every week. So, like I say, my degree is
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Speaker 1: in mathematics, my miners and sociology, and so like I
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Speaker 1: always tell people, you can't report a degree, you know,
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Speaker 1: once it's on that walk and nobody comes, you've got
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Speaker 1: bad credit. Can we have a degree back? Now, that's
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Speaker 1: something that you can that you can own up and
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Speaker 1: you can hang with, right with pride and so so.
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Speaker 1: But getting young people who don't see it, don't see
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Speaker 1: you know, some some young people in the African American community,
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Speaker 1: they never get out of the hood. They don't even
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Speaker 1: know the other side of the hill, the other side
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Speaker 1: of another zip code. That's the life that they see.
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Speaker 1: So so sometimes they limited in their dreams. How does
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Speaker 1: one reshape that you said, you came from Detroit and
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Speaker 1: somebody pulled you out of Detroit and now you you
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Speaker 1: love New York and now you're in Philadelphia and your
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Speaker 1: your Bison, Howard Bison forever. So that's a that's a
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Speaker 1: different leap from where you started. How do we how
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Speaker 1: do we help them get there? I'm always anxious to
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Speaker 1: hear the different stories because I have my story. How
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Speaker 1: how do we help them out? Jeff, I think it's
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Speaker 1: I think it's a few things, right. Um. One, I
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Speaker 1: think you've got to be self motivated, right. Um. I
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Speaker 1: don't need anybody to motivate me. Right. I want to
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Speaker 1: make X amount of dollars, I want to launch this
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Speaker 1: platform and grant four whatever it might be, market share
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Speaker 1: from social social media, whatever, whatever it is. I gotta
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Speaker 1: be self motivated, right, And so that's something that I've
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Speaker 1: always done. And then I think another thing, you know,
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Speaker 1: many young people um that look like us and come
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Speaker 1: from similar backgrounds can do is use the negative stereotypes
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Speaker 1: and use it. It's fuel, right. And so one thing
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Speaker 1: for me growing up, people would always say, like Jeff,
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Speaker 1: you're really good, but you're not Division one football good. Right, Um,
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Speaker 1: You're really good, but I mean you're not NFL good,
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Speaker 1: or you're smart, but you can't get an Ivy League NBA, right.
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Speaker 1: And so what I've done, I think I've mastered the
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Speaker 1: ability to take those negatives, um and those it was
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Speaker 1: that people put on me, and you was it inspired?
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Speaker 1: You know? I tell people all the time, yeah, I
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Speaker 1: want to go to the NFL. Yeah, I don't like
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Speaker 1: JA right and the accents. But the main reason I
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Speaker 1: want to go to the NFL is because I had
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Speaker 1: people in my own camp, people in my own family
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Speaker 1: that was telling me you ain't gonna You're not good
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Speaker 1: enough to do it, right. So I was self motivated
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Speaker 1: and I was able to use, um the labels, the
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Speaker 1: negative labels that everybody put on me, the stale types
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Speaker 1: of everybody put on me, as positive fuel to to
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Speaker 1: to take that leap I love the I love that
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Speaker 1: tone because that's that's how I drive. I strive through
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Speaker 1: that whole. You know, you can't stop me. And if
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Speaker 1: somebody tells me no, I always tell people I try
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Speaker 1: to get it in front of I use a driving analogy.
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Speaker 1: I try to keep my car in front of their bumper.
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Speaker 1: If they can't get around me, They're always gonna recognize
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Speaker 1: my goals. To stay in front of your front bumper,
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Speaker 1: that's my goal. And so if I still in front
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Speaker 1: from your front bumper all the time, You're gonna eventually
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Speaker 1: recognize me and have to acknowledge that I'm doing something successful.
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Speaker 1: And if I'm doing something successful, you have to accept
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Speaker 1: me and welcome me for my allance. And a lot
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Speaker 1: of people don't understand that. And that's what you That's
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Speaker 1: the philosopher year of saying, somebody tell you know, you
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Speaker 1: don't just walk away and go. Well, he told me
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Speaker 1: I was dumb. Well he told me I was under athletic,
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Speaker 1: or he told me I was African American or black,
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Speaker 1: or I'm in the hood. I'm gonna still and die
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Speaker 1: in the hood. You say, man, who are you talking to?
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Speaker 1: That's not my value, that's not my system that coats
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Speaker 1: from something that your mom taught you, and that has
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Speaker 1: to be very special. On the phone as my man,
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Speaker 1: he's a he's a super Bowl champion, he wanted with
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Speaker 1: the New York Giants. He's the founder of the LCR.
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Speaker 1: He has an NBA D he got from Columbia University.
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Speaker 1: I'll be back more talking about his life, his risk,
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Speaker 1: man of it, and he's handling money for people, big
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Speaker 1: money money. I might want to give to him a
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Speaker 1: little bit there, but we'll be right back with more
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Speaker 1: money making conversation and joined it. Man, this is life.
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Speaker 1: I just re shying McDonald. You're back. I'm back. Excuse me.
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Speaker 1: It means if I'm back, you're back. You're listening to
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Speaker 1: money making conversations. I'm your host. My next guest who's
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Speaker 1: on the line, and we talked to just finished a tremendous,
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Speaker 1: uh inspiring. The first break is Jeff. He's been invited
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Speaker 1: to speak at Harvard and several of the institutions regarding
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Speaker 1: entrepreneurship and money making. Conversation is about entrepreneurship and you
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Speaker 1: have what they call the l c R business model.
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Speaker 1: What exactly is that? Mr Pope? Yeah? So, um, the
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Speaker 1: CR or central lesson right is a digital publication that
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Speaker 1: shares unique perspectives from all different socio economic backgrounds and
14:23
Speaker 1: professional lines. Right. And so the goal behind that UM
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Speaker 1: is that basically, you know, multimedia is broken, right, it's
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Speaker 1: a lot of fair markering. UM, it's extremely biased. And
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Speaker 1: the folks where there's me, you, people from our communities, teachers, veterans, UH,
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Speaker 1: formally encroporate individuals, UM, even the folks on Wall Street.
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Speaker 1: Their opinions matter, and their opinions are essentially what's going
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Speaker 1: to help us solve a lot of these tough social
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Speaker 1: issues in our communities. Right. And so what we've essentially
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Speaker 1: done UM is attempted to take the narrative back from
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Speaker 1: the ratings, the mega news organizations and give it back
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Speaker 1: to the people. UM. And we've had a lot of
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Speaker 1: success doing it. So how do how does one use that?
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Speaker 1: You know, if if if I'm an individual? How does
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Speaker 1: it? It It sounds like an algorithm that gathers information correct? UM,
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Speaker 1: So not exactly an algorithm, UM, it's it's kind of
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Speaker 1: old fast and the way we curate content. So we
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Speaker 1: reach out to folks and then we also allow folks
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Speaker 1: to reach out to us, and so um. One thing
15:26
Speaker 1: that we've done is allowed our contributors to remain anonymous,
15:29
Speaker 1: right and so um as as I'm sure you know,
15:32
Speaker 1: folks that don't work in politics or media, you might
15:35
Speaker 1: have an opinion, but you might be afraid, and rightfully so,
15:38
Speaker 1: of how your your co workers or how your family
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Speaker 1: might respond to you. Right. So, we have some folks
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Speaker 1: in some high places, um that have a lot on
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Speaker 1: the line if their name was behind their perspective. At
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Speaker 1: the same time, you know, we don't. We don't believe
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Speaker 1: it's about keeping it real or or selling out. At
15:55
Speaker 1: the same time, offering a perspective that can be valuable
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Speaker 1: to somebody else, maybe across the country, who feels the
16:01
Speaker 1: exact same way, but hasn't identified with somebody to connect
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Speaker 1: with HS. That makes sense. Basically getting a person in
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Speaker 1: a position they have an honest opinion about the situation
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Speaker 1: versus the quote unquote opinion that we should they should
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Speaker 1: be that we feel they should be saying about somebody.
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Speaker 1: So basically that's what you're saying, right absolutely, and it's
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Speaker 1: also giving specifically, it's for everybody, but we're really targeting
16:28
Speaker 1: high school kids and college kids to give them an
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Speaker 1: opportunity to weigh in on these issues. Right. And so
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Speaker 1: you know, we had several school shootings over the past
16:37
Speaker 1: couple of months. Um, that's really the only time we
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Speaker 1: stick a microphone in the high school kids face, right
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Speaker 1: and them what do they think? But I talked to
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Speaker 1: these kids every day. My team talked to these kids
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Speaker 1: every day, and they have opinions on you know, teenage
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Speaker 1: pregnancy and violence and cyber bullying and suicide. Why don't
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Speaker 1: we get their opinions because the more the more information
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Speaker 1: that we're able to gather from them, the more we
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Speaker 1: allow them to speak, the better decisions us quote unquote
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Speaker 1: adults can make, you know, whether it's legislatives or it's
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Speaker 1: you know, school policy or whatever it might be, right
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Speaker 1: and so um, you know academia and rightfully, so you know,
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Speaker 1: it's kind of jumped on board. But we've got a
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Speaker 1: lot of great support from them. Um. And it's really
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Speaker 1: you know, we consider the social enterprise because the more perspectives, um,
17:27
Speaker 1: we're open to, the better decisions we make. Um, almost overnight, Right,
17:31
Speaker 1: That's kind of what the fine says. So that's suggest
17:33
Speaker 1: that what we're doing. This is amazing to me because,
17:36
Speaker 1: first of all, I know, everybody should be on board,
17:39
Speaker 1: not just just academia, because of the fact that you're
17:44
Speaker 1: you're saying you're talking to the source instead of the
17:46
Speaker 1: source being described by people who don't live that lifestyle.
17:50
Speaker 1: And so so that's really key me. How did you
17:53
Speaker 1: come up with that? You know, I always look at
17:54
Speaker 1: people's lifestyle. You know, you said you come from Detroit.
17:56
Speaker 1: You said, the hard part of Detroit, single, single parents,
18:01
Speaker 1: you know, single mom, raised by a single mom. Correct, okay,
18:05
Speaker 1: and then UH had a horrible injury in college, didn't
18:10
Speaker 1: get drafted, won a Super Bowl, and UH got the
18:14
Speaker 1: NBA from Ivy League school. How what's driving you? I'm
18:23
Speaker 1: just trying. I'm trying to make it, you know what
18:28
Speaker 1: to say. What I'm saying, well, you know what I'm saying.
18:30
Speaker 1: It's it's like, okay, like I've said a lot of
18:34
Speaker 1: things that should have shut you down along the way,
18:36
Speaker 1: according to the system of tough inner city background that
18:39
Speaker 1: should have shut you down. You know, single mom that
18:41
Speaker 1: should have shut you down. Injury in college that should
18:44
Speaker 1: have shut you down. You know, not drafted by the NFL,
18:46
Speaker 1: that should have shut you down. So you know, you
18:49
Speaker 1: went to an ivy League school that should have shut
18:51
Speaker 1: you down. You know what I'm saying, not even getting
18:53
Speaker 1: in one. So I keep hearing these these layers where
18:56
Speaker 1: you told me earlier, Rashan, what you're not gonna do
18:58
Speaker 1: to me is tell me what I'm so posted do.
19:00
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you what I can do. How can
19:03
Speaker 1: we bottle that, sir? How can we bottle that and
19:06
Speaker 1: and and and and sell it or passive around so
19:09
Speaker 1: everybody can get a dose of Mr Pope? You know
19:12
Speaker 1: it's running man. I was just speaking to some of
19:14
Speaker 1: my high school kids last week who were kind of
19:17
Speaker 1: down on themselves in the inner city right here in Philadelphia,
19:20
Speaker 1: and I told him, I was like, look, you got
19:21
Speaker 1: something that everybody want, which is that dog right with
19:26
Speaker 1: that ability to overcome adversity. Right, you might not see
19:29
Speaker 1: it today, but you know, despite the violence in your community,
19:32
Speaker 1: despite the drugs, despite of broken home, you find a
19:35
Speaker 1: way to make it every day. Um, if you can,
19:38
Speaker 1: if you can just figure out how to turn that
19:40
Speaker 1: around and use it as fuel of motivation, you'll take over.
19:44
Speaker 1: You'll be able to do anything you want to do.
19:46
Speaker 1: And that's something that I think, you know. Big props
19:49
Speaker 1: to my mom and my grandma and my my continuous network.
19:52
Speaker 1: Um that pushes me to kind of want to achieve
19:55
Speaker 1: great things. I always have people and I'm probably I'm
19:58
Speaker 1: sure you can probably relate, but always have people to say, Man,
20:01
Speaker 1: you're killing that, You're doing that, you're doing that, and
20:03
Speaker 1: I always feel like I ain't doing enough. I always
20:05
Speaker 1: still like I'm behind, you know what I mean. So
20:08
Speaker 1: you know it's it's it's I'm a pretty self motivated dude.
20:11
Speaker 1: And I pushed that initiative literally throughout my whole network
20:15
Speaker 1: and it's reciprocated and I love it. I love it
20:18
Speaker 1: because of the fact that, uh, you you are a
20:20
Speaker 1: younger version of me, you know, because of the fact
20:23
Speaker 1: that my friends always called me and uh, they go,
20:25
Speaker 1: what city you in, Rashawn, what city you in? You know?
20:29
Speaker 1: And these are busy people and they always know that
20:31
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm doing something that's not normal, and I
20:34
Speaker 1: have to bring that out, you know, after sometimes when
20:36
Speaker 1: you you're a type of guy, I know, it's not
20:38
Speaker 1: a guy who hangs onto a goal. Once you accomplish
20:42
Speaker 1: the goal, you move on to the next goal, and
20:44
Speaker 1: people like you tend to be not satisfied because of
20:48
Speaker 1: the fact that you you just just take a step back, sir,
20:51
Speaker 1: just take a step back and realize what God has
20:53
Speaker 1: given you the opportunity to accomplish. You need to do
20:56
Speaker 1: that periodically. I didn't do that, you know as much
20:58
Speaker 1: as I should that A you can better better focus
21:02
Speaker 1: on where you're about to go with your next step,
21:04
Speaker 1: because I want to see greatness in your life. Because
21:06
Speaker 1: of the fact that you do not understand the word no.
21:10
Speaker 1: You do not understand the word I can't. You do
21:13
Speaker 1: not understand the word uh, why are you doing that?
21:16
Speaker 1: And I hate when people tell me why are you
21:17
Speaker 1: doing that? Why? Why? Why can't I? Why should not?
21:20
Speaker 1: You know? And so many people limit themselves through fear,
21:23
Speaker 1: and that's not. Part of your vocabulary is fear. And
21:26
Speaker 1: I go back to saying that your team and tell
21:29
Speaker 1: us about the team that that that that keeps you going,
21:32
Speaker 1: that challenges you, that makes you be who you are today.
21:37
Speaker 1: Absolutely so, I got a great network. One is whom i'mutu,
21:40
Speaker 1: a friend of ours, Marquees gassing Um, who is the
21:44
Speaker 1: NBA agent based in the Washington, D C. Area. But
21:48
Speaker 1: I mean I probably got about ten or fifteen friends
21:51
Speaker 1: like him Um and completely different hemispheres and lanes in life.
21:56
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the cat that's making men and on
22:00
Speaker 1: wage and a such a tooth teacher, um to the
22:03
Speaker 1: cat that just closed a four hundred million dollar deal. Right.
22:06
Speaker 1: It's like, I think the ability to grow and extremely diverse,
22:10
Speaker 1: unique network, and I'm talking about folks that are keep
22:14
Speaker 1: it real. I was joking with a couple of buddies
22:16
Speaker 1: and I was like, the last thing I want to
22:18
Speaker 1: do is have a Kanye effect, right, which means I
22:21
Speaker 1: surround myself with a whole bunch of yes people. They
22:24
Speaker 1: can't tell me when I dropped the ball, right, And
22:26
Speaker 1: so I'm I'm surrounded myself with a whole bunch of
22:29
Speaker 1: blunt people that are not afraid to tell me when
22:32
Speaker 1: I messed up, when I need what I need to
22:34
Speaker 1: do better, how I need to improve. And you know,
22:36
Speaker 1: they always say your network is in net worth, right,
22:39
Speaker 1: And I truly believe that, right. And so it's no
22:42
Speaker 1: point of me being part of somebody's network if I
22:45
Speaker 1: can't add value and vice versa, right, Because as much
22:47
Speaker 1: as people want to see me succeed, I want to
22:50
Speaker 1: see them succeed. You this as much, right, um, Especially
22:54
Speaker 1: when they look like me because I know that grind,
22:56
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it's it's really it's
22:58
Speaker 1: really a testament to my network and the folks that
23:01
Speaker 1: you know continuously pushed me to do bigger and better things. Well,
23:04
Speaker 1: you know the interesting part of the more I talk,
23:06
Speaker 1: the more I understand your brand and uh and I
23:10
Speaker 1: would love to have you on my show Wants a
23:12
Speaker 1: Quarter about money Making Conversations. In twin and eighteen, I'm
23:15
Speaker 1: putting together this tour called the Influencers. It's about unique
23:19
Speaker 1: people who are share the stage with me and talk
23:22
Speaker 1: about They tell people their stories, and I really it's
23:25
Speaker 1: so much more to your story because of the fact
23:27
Speaker 1: that you have such a clean understanding about hard working
23:31
Speaker 1: success and a lot of people don't get that. You
23:34
Speaker 1: know what do who taught you that or what did
23:37
Speaker 1: you pick up those little gems to understand that this
23:42
Speaker 1: is what I have to do to win? So it's funny. Um,
23:47
Speaker 1: I read a lot. I read a lot, right, Um,
23:51
Speaker 1: I read a lot of history, but I read I
23:54
Speaker 1: read a lot of biographies. I want to know, you
23:56
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, how folks overcame hurdles, right, whether
24:00
Speaker 1: it's Joe Lewis right or it is you know Barack
24:03
Speaker 1: Obama when he made it, like I want to know,
24:06
Speaker 1: right because I can take a little piece of that
24:07
Speaker 1: and add it to my story. Right. And So one,
24:10
Speaker 1: I read a lot. I mean, I mean I read
24:12
Speaker 1: a lot. I've fallen asleep often times with Slavery on
24:16
Speaker 1: page forty eight, right. Um, so I read a lot.
24:19
Speaker 1: That's one. And then to um, you know, whether it's
24:23
Speaker 1: Marquis as other people in my network, Um, you know,
24:26
Speaker 1: we constantly just have sessions, just just brainstormy sessions right
24:30
Speaker 1: where we get together and we say, look, this is
24:33
Speaker 1: what I'm doing, this is where I'm at. You know. Um.
24:35
Speaker 1: I was speaking to actually Marquise about a huge board
24:38
Speaker 1: commitment I got for the FCR, and I was overthinking
24:42
Speaker 1: and I was saying, look, I don't think she's gonna
24:44
Speaker 1: come on board. And before I could even get it out,
24:48
Speaker 1: and you know, in one of our cars, she said,
24:49
Speaker 1: how can I be involved? I gotta be involved with this? Right?
24:52
Speaker 1: And so you know, the ability to talk that stuff
24:55
Speaker 1: through with like minded folks is it is valuable, you
24:58
Speaker 1: know what I mean? So a man, uh, I appreciate you,
25:02
Speaker 1: and uh Gatson is a is a good uh person
25:05
Speaker 1: to have in my life. You know. He he tells
25:08
Speaker 1: me how great I am and I sometimes don't understand it,
25:11
Speaker 1: but I I just said, thank you. Uh, I'm now
25:14
Speaker 1: you're part of my family. Mr Pope. That means it
25:16
Speaker 1: once a quarter, you gotta talk to me and I
25:18
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