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Recapping Muratalla-Cruz & Zuffa 01, plus Nick Ball vs Brandon Figueroa · Boxing B-Sides

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The B -Side in boxing. B -Side shit. B -Side.
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B -Side. And the B -Side. You got a B -Side.
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The B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. The B
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-Side thing. This is the B -Sides Boxing Podcast.
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Timer's going. Alright. motherfucking boxing
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b -sides back up in your ears, boys. I am joined
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by the comrades. Josh, Saul, how goes it? Welcome
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back. We are back. Still working on becoming
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Chinese now. Let me see here. We got a little
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bit of MMA to share. Just... Extending the hand
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of friendship to our fellows over at Ultimate
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FN Casuals. UFC 324 on January 24th. There were
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a few fights on here that are, if you're into
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MMA, worth checking out. Let's see. Atteba Gautier
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got a UD over Andrei Pulayev. Not quite what
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you would hope from the prospect Gautier. but
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nonetheless a dominant performance. Umar Nurmagomedov
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pitched a shutout over Davis and Figueredo. Figueredo
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turned in a spirited performance, but it's pretty
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obvious he's on his way out the door. Blah, blah,
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blah. Justin Gaethje beats the shit out of Paddy
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Pimblitt. Boy, oh boy. I actually made a comment
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about it last week. I don't know if I can include
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it here, but I was saying that that was the best
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fight on the card because it was like a boxing
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fight. Stand up. Yep. Also very nice because
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Pimplet lost. Yeah. That too. Always helps. He's
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like a Saudi American. Or not a Saudi American.
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Saudi American. That's crazy. That's fucking
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crazy. Hey, guys. We're filming this late at
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night. I'm fucking tired. Yeah, my dog literally
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just fucking shit everywhere. My girlfriend just
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broke up with me because of what Frost said.
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Because of what I said. Because you made her
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watch Zufa. No, no. But no, my dog did shit everywhere,
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though. Uh, fuck. Yeah, Pimblitt drops the ball.
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Gaethje, he's an Arizona guy, like me, so I'm
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happy to see him win, but he's not long for the
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sport at this point, so it's curious what he
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does from here. If you want more MMA talk, Ultimate
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effing casuals. Wherever you're listening to
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this, you can find that too. Into some boxing
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news. Callum Smith versus David Morrell. The
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interim WBO light heavyweight title is going
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to purse bid. What are we thinking here? Callum
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Smith, he's at the tail end of his career, but
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he has... shown life. And David Morrell is David
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Morrell. It's a good fight. Yeah, it's a good
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fight. It's a good fight. One thing I will say
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is it's definitely not going to be on a PBC card.
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No. For sure. Because if PBC wanted it, they
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would have... They would have bid. Yeah, they
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would have bid. So I think it's going to end
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up being on a ring card. Or hosted by Madstone,
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but we'll see. Man, I would prefer to shit in
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my fucking pants than have the Saudis win these
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bits, man. Yeah. We'll see what happens with
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it, though. But, in other news, Christian Mbili
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has been elevated to full champion. for the WBC
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at 168. His next opponent is likely to be Lester
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Martinez. It's not certain, but it is definitely
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going in that direction. What are we thinking?
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Christian Mbili, has he done enough to earn this?
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The draw with Martinez does, to me, raise questions
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of whether he rates the full title. But I guess
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the rematch would settle those questions. What
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do you guys think? Yes. I just want to see Lester
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get it. Agree. It'd be so satisfying for Lester
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to just get that shit. The first Pro Box champion
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of the year? Of the year, yeah. Pro Box revolution
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here. This is going to lead up to a Pro Box pay
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-per -view. No, they wouldn't do that. They're
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not that. I don't think they're those type of
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guys. No, not at all. Not at all. Oslis Iglesias
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versus Pavel Siljagin for the IBF 168 title.
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They had to go down the list quite a ways to
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find somebody willing to fight. iglesias uh i
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think we should do a b -sides sit down watch
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a little bit of tape on pavel and make a determination
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of when iglesias is gonna fucking ice him or
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if because i'm gonna be honest i i'm not getting
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to know who the hell this guy is the contrarian
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No, I'm being honest. Who is this guy? That's
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what the... That's what the tape... Have you
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seen his fights? The tape studies. Yes, actually.
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I got convinced by the Discord to go watch his
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fights. No, I'm talking about the other guy,
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Pavel. Oh, no. I thought you were talking about
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Iglesias, and I'm like, you could see it. Oh,
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my God. Oh, no, no. I've seen Iglesias so many
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times. I'm talking about Pavel. Who is this guy?
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Listen, man. He's the guy... who has the balls
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to fight Iglesias, so he gets my respect. 100%,
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yeah. I mean, the thing is that I know is that
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all the guys that skipped him know who he is,
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but they're afraid to fight him. High risk, low
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reward type of fights. Of course you're going
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to get a... I'm assuming this guy sounds Russian.
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He is. Or some sort of Eastern European. Yeah,
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so of course they're going to fight. I... From
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what I've seen from Iglesias, he's going to win,
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but I've got to see Pavel fight before I can
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make a determination. But the fact that I haven't
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heard about him that much kind of tells me already
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what I need to know. We'll see. That's what I
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mean when I say we should do a B -sides tape
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study. Tape study. And we're not deciding if
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Iglesias is going to win. i mean like get the
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fuck out of here uh if the canelo and munguia
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and callum simpson are fucking turning it down
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my man sitting at rank like six or seven let's
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get fucking real here but it's it would be good
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to like place some bets where where does the
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finish happen Round four. Four to six. Four to
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six is fair. I wonder if Iglesias is going to
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do tape study. Does he even need to at this point?
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Well, he should. He's a fighter. Yeah, he should.
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Moving on. I know that the world has been waiting.
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And waiting to hear news on Oscar Valdez. He's
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a promotional free agent. The way I put it to
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Shanada was this is probably a good time to get
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off the ship. The top rank ship. Things are not
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going well right now. Not a bad place for a guy
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like Oscar Valdez to go. But in better news,
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I suppose, on the Wood -Warrington rematch card
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on February 21st, David Allen has a fight signed.
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Ishmael Davis, I believe, is going to be defending
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his British and Commonwealth titles. Why those
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are separate at this point, I don't know. And
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Molly McCann, Meatball Molly, is also going to
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be fighting. So, isn't that a good time? Juan
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Francisco Estrada versus Tenshin Nasukawa. All
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signs are pointing to April. Do you think there's
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a fighter that Shinada hates more than Tenshin
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Nasukawa? Probably Shakur Stevenson. You think
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so? Yeah, she's taking on the T .O. role. True.
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I mean, she's not going to tell you much more
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about this fight than we can. We can just give
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you the basic Estrada has a pretty good chance
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of winning. But she can go into detail why. So
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you guys should go to Boxing4Dark and listen
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to the gang there. Yeah. As much as I love...
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Estrada's been one of my favorites for quite
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some time. He is at the tail end of his career,
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moving up to 118. I am also a bit of a Tension
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fan. No denying that. But, yeah, Tension is at
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the place where he's supposed to beat guys like
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Estrada. So, I don't know. I guess that's the
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best you can make of it. All right. That's all
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I got on the news front. Into the recaps. Friday,
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January 23rd. The premiere of Zufa Boxing on
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Paramount+. Boy, this was certainly a card. It
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was slop. It was slop. Yeah, it wasn't great.
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I will say on the undercard, Troy Nash is a solid
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prospect. He got a UD over Jacob Ramos, which
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was a dominant performance that you would expect
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from a 5 -0 fighter at the six -round level.
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Robert Merriweather is another, what I thought
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was a good prospect, that had quite a bit of
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trouble with Cesar Correa. Another six -round
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fighter and didn't do, he didn't get the job
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done as you would expect from like a grade A
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prospect. Unfortunately. Moving up the bill.
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Not a whole lot going on. 360 Promotions is the
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direct feeder into Zufa. If you weren't familiar,
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360 Promotions, they broadcast on UFC Fight Pass.
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So for their guys. To come over to Zufa. No surprise.
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Omar Trinidad. Got a late stoppage. In the 10th.
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Looked the same way he always has. Which is not
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very good. And. Yeah. In the main. Callum Walsh.
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UD. Over Carlos Acampo. He UD'd against the guy
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that Spence knocked out. That Tim Zu knocked
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out to, I believe. And Fulgurum beat the shit
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out of him for the full distance. Exactly. So,
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this should tell you the level that Zufa's guy
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is going to be. This whole fucking card is crazy.
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Max Kellerman talking about how he's been waiting
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for this shit his whole life. To watch Callum
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Walsh. You would eat a fucking Errol Spence Jr.
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victim. Gotta be kidding me. I mean, I don't
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know. The whole thing just felt dull. You know?
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All of it. The only good thing I can say about
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this card was its camera. Okay? That's it. The
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production quality. Exactly. But even then, it's
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like they had the cards that were being put up.
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33 and 3? What the fuck is that? It was excellent.
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33 to 3. Perfect. I mean, hey. They gotta get
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their shit together. All I gotta say. The statistics
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that they were measuring were attacks, counters.
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What? Like, counters, okay. I get it. I can dig
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it. But attacks, what? Yeah, that shit don't
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make sense. It does, but it makes sense in like
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a UFC context, you know? But in boxing, I mean,
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you know what I mean? But what do they classify
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as an attack? Do they classify pity patter as
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an attack? You know what I mean? Not a jab, not
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a hook, no power punches. Fucking attack in general.
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The fuck? Callum Walsh did not show us anything
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we didn't already know about him. He has light
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hands. And with Zufa moving him up to full middleweight,
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because they don't do the middle ground divisions.
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Allegedly, yes. They move them up to full middleweight.
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And he looked like hot fucking garbage. He was
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never that good to begin with. Just to think,
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guys. It was half a decade ago that PBC gave
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us both Charlo's on the same night for free.
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If only we knew what we had then. People complained,
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by the way. I'll tell you this. I think Dana
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White's like Moses. For 360 promotions. I mean,
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for the guys that... He's a savior. Oh, yeah,
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for them, yeah. Yeah, because, I mean, these
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guys at 360 Promotions weren't going to be worth
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shit. Because it's... I mean, no, I'm not trying
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to disrespect the fighters themselves, but the
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actual promotional company is... Was worth dick.
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Was worth dick. But then Dana White came and
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led them to the Holy Land of being one of the
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only... The only other promoter that's on an
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actual... broadcasting they got broadcasting
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rights in a sense not TV but on a streaming platform
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that's not the AZN truth be told and clearly
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because we are here sitting here recording this
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fucking podcast to begin with we are we are among
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the 1 % Of the hardcore fans, right? I have spent
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time, more time than I care to admit, watching
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360 Promotions fucking events. The only fighter
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of any of their roster that I care about is Mizuki
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Hiruta, the women's fighter. That she just does
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these really crazy outfits. Yes, her outfit,
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she is dripped up. Actually, I will say that.
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She has fucking excellent walkout outfits, fight
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outfits. She looks fucking immaculate. And that
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is the peak of 360 promotions. I don't expect
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Zufa to get into women's fights anytime soon.
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Personally, I don't expect that they're going
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to do that. So what happens with Mizuki? I don't
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know. I hope she finds a better home than fucking
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Zufa. MVP has been taking care of women's fighters
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really well since their inception. Overall, for...
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Like you said, the production quality was fantastic.
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The cameras were high quality. They used great
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camera angles and everything. That was about
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as good as this whole show got. The panel was
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fucking atrocious. The fighters themselves...
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the attire really fucking bugs me that they're
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limited to just picking the color of their trunks
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and that's it. There was talk in Discord as we
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were watching this fucking car crash about gloves.
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And there were interesting questions about what's
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going to happen with fighters picking their gloves.
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Because there were guys picking Venom, Grants,
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Kletos, all the usual suspects. And at the end,
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Carlos Ocampo comes out with Zufa branded gloves.
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And that to me... is a telling sign of what to
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expect. No sponsorships on the trunks either.
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Yeah, exactly. All you pick is the color. That's
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all you get. That's brutal. Sounds like a dictatorship
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to me. Aside from the obvious implications of
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controlling a fighter's finances down to who's
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allowed to give them money, it makes for a much
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worse product to just not let these guys express
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themselves. Because it's not like you're... It's
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such a different sport to normal sports where
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you follow a team or a league even. You follow
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the individuals. You're a fan of the individuals.
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And not letting them express themselves, even
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in these basic ways, is very damaging to the
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product. Guaranteed if Callum Walsh wanted some
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fucking red, white, and blue shit for some fucking
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reason, even though he's not even American. Oh,
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like American -branded stuff. Yeah, they wanted
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American -branded shit. Yeah, they'll let him
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do that, but I doubt it. And it's not that I
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expect or I... I don't expect that every fighter
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is going to do the type of shit that Mizuki does.
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Like, that is one end of the extreme. But this
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is the opposite end where, like, who... These
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are faceless fucking people coming out to punch
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each other. There's no personality here. Even
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their walkout attire was Zufa branded. uh yeah
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they're they're going they're trying to ufc our
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boxing and i don't like it yeah no i'm honestly
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the fact that they're trying to control fighters
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trunks is ridiculous i mean i feel like a good
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way to get the sponsors is to do it on their
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uh on the ropes if they want to go another route
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but i mean i don't know if they're going to want
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to show that you know from the back But that's
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ridiculous how they don't want a fighter's freedom.
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You know, the fucking ring is full of sponsors.
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Why can't the trunks? You know? Something interesting
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Shanada pointed out that I just remembered. The
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fighter's shoes, even those were not limited
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to brand, but they were limited to color. It
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was pretty much just black or white shoes. That's
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all you got. That's fucking ridiculous, though.
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It's a fighter's choice of what the fuck they
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want to wear. The reason why they have these
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customizations, the reason why they do these
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walkouts, a big part of it is because it could
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be their very last moments on Earth. You know?
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Yeah. Give them their time to shine, their time
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to express themselves, and leave a lasting impression
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on the people. If they do die in the ring, on
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who they were as a person creatively in their
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life. I know it sounds like I'm fucking reaching,
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but, I mean, these guys walk out with their music
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to hype them up and to show off what kind of
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person they are, you know? Rich Taurus walks
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out to Beethoven type shit, you know? He walks
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out to classical music. I know it doesn't have
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to do with Trunks, but I mean, these guys, like
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Stephen Fulton. Stephen Fulton or Tims. That's
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fucking crazy. But it's a cultural message. You
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know what I mean? It's who he is. And if you're
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not going to allow that, then you're just not
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allowing a fighter to express themselves before
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they fucking possibly pass away in the ring.
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steven nelson when he wore the um the shit makes
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me laugh every time but the like the sagging
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jean shorts trunks like the the trunks had a
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like boxers showing and sagged jeans as the pattern
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that shit is just way too funny like what uh
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yeah and the the uh m bison attire that he had
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it's just too good like why do you want to get
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rid of that yeah I mean stay where you want to
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be sponsored but for creativity go fuck yourself
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and if you're going to take away the pageantry
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which is I would expect most fans, like, if you're
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going to take away the pageantry, then you better,
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at the very least, be putting on good fights.
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Which is not the case. You're kind of scraping
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the bottom of the barrel here with fucking...
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The luck is that 360 Promotions was already part
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of the UFC fucking umbrella. And that's pretty
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expected Zufa to get, but goddammit, it just
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Moving on. Saturday, January 24th. Real shit
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went down. Zayquin Moses starting at the bottom.
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He got a UD over Leandro Medina. Zayquin is another
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grade A prospect. I believe he trains with...
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He's related to Shakur Stevenson, I think they
29:20
were saying. But regardless, he trains with Shakur.
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I think he's in the BOMAC gym. So, Zayquin was
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excellent to watch. Oh, man. Speaking of fighter
29:39
personalities, Omari Jones walks out to... Michael
29:45
Jackson every time. He beat the shit out of Jerome
29:50
Baxter for six rounds. Good fight, I'll say.
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Decent. Decent showing of weight and kibble of.
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I'm surprised that Amari didn't get the stoppage.
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He was close to a couple times. Yeah, exactly.
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I guess he's just the guy who fought with his
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stuff. Oh, boy. Israel Madrimov, also a UD over
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Luis Salazar. Madrimov decided to turn it up
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in the last round and a half. Yeah. Oh, shit.
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I'm already ranting. I've been doing some listening
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right now. It's nice. I don't have much to rant
30:44
about. I went on the rant about the creativity
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and then you guys added on. It was good. I'm
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going to start with you. I'm about to, though.
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We got the light heavyweight show. Oh, yeah.
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Yeah, like Israel Madrimov, this was supposed
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to be him showing that he's back. There was all
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that talk about him being sick. with the Virgil
31:11
Ortiz fight. So this was supposed to be like
31:14
the return and he, he turned in what was clearly
31:20
like a one -sided performance, but not very impressive
31:25
for who we thought Madrimov was or is. You could
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have a dominant, but mediocre performance. Yeah.
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It's very possible. You could be dominant the
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whole time, but you can't, if you don't knock
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him out or if he, if he looks even. even a little
31:40
bit good in some cases, then you just put up
31:43
a mediocre performance against a guy that you
31:44
should have either knocked out or dominated.
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Should have handled that with ease. He did handle
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it with ease, but, like, dude, you could have
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done more. He could have tried a bit more. Yeah.
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I'm not gonna say this is the end of Madrimov,
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but I would say I would say put him up there
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with another top 15. If he loses, then he's done.
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That's fair. Oh, shit. Speaking of fair, question
32:23
mark. Khalil Coe, majority decision over Jesse
32:28
Hart. Josh, you said you wanted to say a bit
32:34
about this one. Oh, Jesus Christ. Like... Man,
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how many times is this guy going to blow weight?
32:46
How many times? Yes. This has been a consistent
32:51
issue. This has been a reoccurring issue where
32:57
he just doesn't give a fuck about weight limits.
33:02
I wouldn't say he's at the level to be fucking
33:07
off about weight. So he just doesn't, he just
33:12
is not giving a fuck about the weight. And it's
33:14
really just not what it is. Like just why, like
33:21
you're not good enough. And it's just like, it's
33:26
so difficult to actually gauge his level when
33:29
he's, well, you could gauge it pretty well considering
33:31
heart kind of, other than getting tired in the
33:35
point deduction. Kind of outboxed him pretty
33:38
cleanly. But. Like. It's just. Like. He should
33:43
take this as a loss. Regardless of the result.
33:48
Because Jesse Hart is. Old. And. Also. Not. All
33:54
that. And I've just. I've kind of had it with
34:00
Coe. I don't want to see. I don't even want to
34:01
see him like. Show up again. Like I want him.
34:04
Down on club shows. Because. Like, a prospect
34:08
who can't be fucked to make weight is, especially
34:13
at, like, 29 years old with nothing that impressive
34:17
is just, it's not something I'm too interested
34:21
in. Also, he's, like what you said, he's 29 fucking
34:24
years old acting like he is, he has all the time
34:28
in the world to be doing these antics. Buddy,
34:31
your time is running out. He's not going to get
34:33
a world title shot if he can't make weight. Exactly.
34:37
Nobody's going to want to fight him. He's not
34:39
good enough to even beat any of the champs. Even
34:44
if he does make weight. He's not even ranked,
34:48
I think. No, because he did throw away his USA
34:51
light heavyweight title by blowing weight this
34:53
time. Fucking ridiculous. Like, it's just...
34:58
They're literally just pissing money down the
35:01
toilet. Like, this is a guy who should be in
35:04
Zufa. And not anywhere near legitimate promotions.
35:09
Send his ass to fucking Zufa. He's making a mockery
35:12
of the sport. I mean, even Eddie Hearns sounds
35:16
like he's tired of them. I generally think that
35:18
this is either his last fight with Mashroom or
35:21
his second to last fight. But honestly, I just
35:24
genuinely don't think it's good. Eddie's going
35:25
to send him up the toilet with someone who's
35:27
actually okay. Yeah, because, I mean, he already
35:31
got knocked out, too. He might be the Ben Whittaker
35:33
victim we've been looking for. Oh, baby, Ben
35:36
Whittaker. That would be a damn good fight to
35:40
watch. Who would I want to see get knocked out
35:42
more, a British shit -talker? That is a Ben Whittaker
35:46
highlight reel. I mean, honestly, I hope it's
35:52
not even that too bad of a win for Ben Whittaker.
35:55
I mean, that's actually a decent step up, I guess.
35:59
But I mean, like Ben Whitaker beating up on a
36:03
guy who can't make weight is like, sure. I'm
36:05
happy with that. But I don't know. Is this a
36:10
question of discipline or just a question of
36:13
what? Because honestly, I just think he lacks
36:17
discipline. I don't think it's discipline specifically
36:21
because discipline, if he were disciplined. Maybe
36:29
it is discipline, actually, now that I'm thinking
36:31
about it. Because Jesse Hart, I feel, genuinely
36:35
beat him, regardless of the antics. So, I don't
36:42
know. Even if he shows up, he has to show up
36:45
dialed in in camp. And he has to show up dialed
36:50
in in the fight. How many fucking steps of dialed
36:55
in is this guy lacking? And, yeah, you're right.
37:00
You're right. It's a lack of discipline. And
37:03
I think that it extends beyond the ring. Well,
37:10
in the ring, too, that lack of discipline also
37:12
adds on to his lack of stamina, which is why
37:17
he lost to Gallegos, which is also why, in my
37:20
opinion, he lost to Hart. He didn't win the fight.
37:23
I know that for sure. I mean... You could make
37:26
the case for a draw, but I don't want to call
37:30
robbery, but that card was fucking bullshit.
37:34
That was a pretty bullshit card they gave him.
37:39
They wanted his ass to win to keep his record
37:42
straight, but what are you going to do about
37:45
it? We knew it was going to happen. Leo, you
37:51
and I both said that this shit was going to happen.
37:53
Yeah. They were going to job Jesse from the beginning,
37:58
unfortunately. Yeah. Oh, shit. That's more time
38:05
than Khalil Coe deserves. On to what was, I think,
38:12
an early fight of the year contender. Ray Moritaya
38:18
just edges by. Andy Cruz to retain his IBF lightweight
38:25
title. First things first, the 118 -110, whoever
38:31
turned that in, I would very much like to talk
38:36
to you. And I would like to hear what your rationale
38:41
is. Oh, Tim, cheat him. Excellent. Yeah. It's
38:46
always Tim, fucking cheat him. Yeah. But it was...
38:51
It was a solid, uh, solid affair, but just both
38:56
guys did good work. Uh, it was clear. Andy Cruz
39:01
was not ready for like the, the championship
39:03
rounds. Cause he's never had to go that distance
39:07
before. And it showed it down the line. I really
39:12
think he just expected more tired to fold at
39:14
some point. They just didn't. Well, I got power
39:19
apparently too. I got to say this, that honestly,
39:23
we can't pretend that we all thought Andy Cruz
39:26
was going to win or Andy Cruz was going to lose.
39:29
But at the same time, I didn't think Moritaya
39:31
would look that good in the ring. No, he definitely
39:34
stepped up. One thing about, I will say this
39:37
as I spoke up last time, I made the case for
39:40
Raymond Moritaya that if he did step up the fight
39:43
and put on the pressure, he has a better chance.
39:45
But I honestly didn't think he was going to do
39:47
that. He did. I also knew that Andy... Andy Cruz
39:51
against his questionable performance against
39:55
Antonio Moran would kind of play on this fight
40:01
too. He got tagged a good amount with shit that
40:04
he should not have been tagged with if he was
40:05
a elite fighter. You know? He did that amateur
40:09
tell where he got hit and he shook his head.
40:13
The fuck is that? Dude, he got hit. Yeah, what
40:17
the hell, dude? Rey put up a damn good fight.
40:22
I got to give all the credit to the world. I
40:24
didn't even think he was going to win. But I
40:25
was rooting for him, and I'm happy he won. He
40:27
retained his title. In my eyes, he's a full champion
40:30
at this point. He defended against a decent opponent,
40:36
I will say. But we'll see what happens with him
40:42
in the future. I actually honestly look forward
40:45
to seeing Rey in another fight that... is of
40:49
equal caliber of an opponent to Andy Cruz. Raymond
40:54
Morita is a pretty fun fighter to watch when
40:57
he steps on the gas. Another, too, is a sense
41:02
of good narrative that Robert Garcia beat Bozy.
41:07
And honestly, I feel like a big difference in
41:09
this fight, too, is the trainers. I'm not trying
41:13
to glaze, but... I feel like what really helped
41:18
Murata win the fight was his trainer. Because
41:21
I feel like he was able to listen to Robert and
41:23
Robert had more clear instructions rather than
41:27
Bozy. Bozy kind of just kind of gave vague shit.
41:33
Robert Garcia buff. It's a real thing. Yeah,
41:37
Robert Garcia, he's a veteran of this shit. And
41:40
I think that's also kind of what edged it out
41:42
in this fight. When shit got tough, Robert told
41:47
Ray what to do. Bozy kind of just said, hey,
41:50
fucking do better. Do it for your family. Do
41:54
it for your country. Shut up about that shit,
41:57
dude. Yeah, that's very vague. A fighter doesn't
42:01
need that. I feel like watching this fight play
42:05
out is kind of giving a hint to what could happen
42:08
with Virgil and Boots. Now, I'm not saying it's
42:11
going to play out exactly like that, but honestly,
42:14
the way they fought, is going to be somewhat
42:19
similar because they're trained by the same person.
42:22
Obviously, they're not going to be the same fight,
42:24
but obviously, Buta's better than Andy Cruz,
42:27
and Virgil's better than Ray Bortaya, but you
42:32
can see what's going to happen in the corner
42:33
of the ring. And Bozy, Stephen Fulton, turned
42:39
in that dud against Oshaki Foster. Oh, Jesus
42:44
Christ. That one still makes me mad. Absolute
42:49
goose egg. Fucking just the terrible showing
42:53
at the weigh -in, obviously, and then not just
42:59
absolute garbage in the fight as well. So maybe
43:06
Bozy isn't as good of a trainer as we thought.
43:10
Hey, I gotta give it to Bozy. He fucking made
43:12
a Brit. A Philly man. Oh, yeah, Caterall. You're
43:18
right. I was going to say, I feel like there's
43:22
unique... Cruz is different, but I feel like
43:24
there's a unique case in regards to Fulton showing
43:30
up and just looking that bad. There's nothing
43:38
a trainer can do to motivate a guy out of looking
43:41
that shitty. And regarding Boots, that being
43:50
said, he might not be as good of a trainer as
43:51
we thought. I mean, Boots is a generational talent
43:54
that literally came out of his nuts. He might
43:58
just be the American version of Eddie Reynoso.
44:04
You have a generational talent? That's Virgil
44:06
Hunter, though. Yeah, Virgil Hunter did that,
44:08
too. Virgil Hunter had Andre Ward walk through
44:11
his doors, too. Yeah. At the same time, I'm not
44:19
going to call Bozy a bad trainer yet. I still
44:22
feel like he's got some work to do. He's kind
44:27
of new in the training game. He kind of came
44:29
up on the scene recently, whereas Robert's been
44:31
training fighters since, what, the early 2000s?
44:36
Yeah. So it's going to take time for him to become
44:41
the level Robert, but we'll see. Overall, this
44:49
is Ray's night. All the credit of the evening
44:56
goes to him. I think a good fight with Ray would
44:59
be William Cepeda. That would be a damn good
45:02
fight with him. Honestly, even a fight with Floyd
45:07
Schofield would be nice. You could also do a
45:10
unification bout with Abdullah Mason. Good fight.
45:15
In the IBF, so Ray obviously is the IBF champ.
45:19
Right now, it hasn't been updated yet. Number
45:24
one, Andy Cruz. Number two, vacant. Three, Schofield.
45:28
Four, Mark Maxayo. Five, Lucas Body. Of the three,
45:35
four, five, Floyd Schofield's a fucking excellent
45:38
pick for a title defense. For Schofield, I feel
45:47
like that would be kind of an unsafe decision
45:49
depending on who's going to be fighting for the
45:51
WBA route. Because he's going to become WBA champ
45:55
soon. Depending on the person he fights. Because
46:02
he held the interim belt for the WBA. He's number
46:08
one in the WBA ranking right now. He might have
46:12
that interim belt. Yeah, he might just get that
46:16
shit. Yeah. If he even fights again, because
46:20
Jesus Christ, he hasn't fought in a while. Hopefully.
46:26
I think Abdullah Mason has to fight Joe Cordina
46:33
next. Joe Cordina. Yeah, he beat Gabe Flores
46:39
on the Pacheco. Lush. To become mandatory? I
46:47
believe so. It was for Rankings. Well, at the
46:51
very least. Hey, Cordina, you saw what happened
46:54
with your buddy. Can you make magic happen? I
47:01
don't know. I doubt it. If Nox couldn't do it,
47:03
I really doubt Cordina could. Yeah. Cordina is
47:07
not the same Cordina as we once saw. It's not
47:12
the same guy. Ray's options are... With the IBF,
47:22
we all know they're really strict. So his options
47:26
are pretty limited. Schofield is probably...
47:31
I would say that's a good fight. McSio... McSio
47:35
can show up and spoil parties. So not a bad fight
47:41
either. Lucas Boddy, I'm not sure what to make
47:44
of him. He had that one hitter with Ashton Silva,
47:53
was it? Ashton Silva, yes, the Jake Paul prospect.
47:59
But before that, he wasn't all that awesome.
48:03
Ashton Silva was also just putting a beating
48:06
on him prior to. Yeah. the one hitter he was
48:10
losing until he won yeah um but yeah those are
48:16
his top prospects uh gervonta davis was stripped
48:21
finally yeah the i saw somewhere that uh lamont
48:28
roach was gonna be in their vacant fight against
48:32
somebody but i don't remember where i saw that
48:38
Andy Cruz. Where does he go from here? Because
48:42
this was not a bad loss. I don't think he...
48:45
There should be no shame in this. I think he
48:51
should fight a couple 10 -rounders. Yes. Get
48:56
an easy fight under your belt first. I would
49:00
say maybe against... Yeah, that too. I would
49:04
say maybe against Jojo Diaz. Or... Yeah, I know
49:08
that sounds funny, but, like, genuinely, like,
49:11
he needs a confidence booster. I guess maybe
49:16
even Regis Progray. That would be a pretty decent
49:18
fight for him. Yeah. Oh, Regis Progray is at
49:22
140 now. Yeah. They're both at 140. Hmm. Let
49:27
me think. What was that guy that fought Pitbull
49:30
a couple years ago? Tall guy? I don't know. Fight
49:37
Gustavo Lemos. Fight someone. Adam Azim. Jose
49:44
Pedraza. Oh, I don't know about that. Jose Pedraza.
49:49
Just to build him up name. Giovanni Cabrera.
49:52
He could fight Giovanni Cabrera. Is that who
49:56
you meant by tall guy? Yeah, tall pit bull guy.
50:00
Yeah. Yeah, Giovanni Cabrera. He could fight
50:02
a lot of guys. I think he could win. Definitely
50:06
not someone in the top 10. You got to build yourself
50:09
back up, buddy. You are a 30 -year -old fighter
50:12
that doesn't have a lot of time. He's 6 -1 at
50:18
30 years old. You don't got a lot of time. Yeah.
50:25
You're Cuban, though, so you might, you know.
50:27
Ageless wonder. Yeah. But he's also an athletic
50:33
Cuban with... Not a lot of power. He might be
50:38
going down the Areslandi -Lara route where he's
50:40
old, but he has power. I doubt it. Yeah, Lara
50:45
had power, even though he never used it. He's
50:49
only recently started to because age and athleticism
50:53
don't mix. But anything more for the matchroom
51:01
card? We got to keep it rolling. damn good fight
51:07
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51:11
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54:39
these, I guess. Friday, February 6th. Matchroom
54:44
on DAZN. As of this moment, I have not seen what
54:50
is on the undercard for this. I've checked every
54:53
source I could think of. Christian Medina versus
54:56
Adrian Curiel for the WBO bantamweight title.
55:04
Fucking two Mexicans. You already know what you're
55:07
going to get. Might be a decent fight. It's going
55:13
to be fireworks, even if it's a little sloppy.
55:16
Yep. And on Saturday, February 7th, Queensberry
55:24
on DAZN in Liverpool. Oh boy, there's a lot of
55:32
stuff on this card and I am struggling to find
55:36
anything that I care about. Nick Ball versus
55:43
Brandon Figueroa for the WBA featherweight title.
55:50
This is a very... It would be funny for the meatball
55:59
to win. And I do enjoy a humorous victory. But
56:07
yeah, I would prefer for... Figueroa has access
56:11
to better talent for defenses. I will say Figueroa,
56:17
his last fight looked atrocious. It was not great.
56:24
So maybe he needed that fight to get some confidence,
56:28
but I don't know. Does he have it in him? I don't
56:33
know. I hope so. Well, we can't have the year
56:41
of the Brits if Figueroa wins. I'll tell you
56:45
this. If Ball wins, that's going to be a pretty
56:47
good name on his resume. Jesus Christ. It would
56:50
be. It would be solid. Figaro's only losses are
56:57
to Stephen Fulton. Adding yourself to that list
57:03
is a really nice accolade. Yeah. What I want
57:15
more than anything is for Nick Ball to fight
57:18
Rafael Espinosa. To unify titles. Espinosa's
57:23
like 6 '2". And Nick Ball's 5 '2". That would
57:30
be funny as fuck. Yeah. That's not going to happen.
57:35
Well, right now, top -ranked guys are being shopped
57:39
out, so... Oh, maybe. It's possible that Espinosa
57:44
gets sent to a Queensberry main event. We could
57:50
hope. That would be a damn good fight, though.
57:54
I think it's going to be a decent fight, too.
57:57
Yeah. Nick Paul, as much as we like to make fun
58:01
of him, he still puts up a decent effort, you
58:06
know. It's going to be British slop, but it's
58:10
going to be decent effort, British slop. I would
58:14
liken him to Isaac Cruz. But not figured out
58:19
yet. Yeah. Yeah, that's all we got on the fucking
58:29
horizon. It's a light weekend. This actually
58:35
because the only card we have on Saturday is
58:40
midday on the west coast of the US. This might
58:45
be a good time. to think about make a plan to
58:52
touch some grass. Yes. It'll be good for you.
58:56
It'll be good to go look at a tree. Go outside
59:01
and look at one. Smell the flowers. Yeah. Walk
59:08
your dog. We give life advice when there's no
59:16
boxing. It's fucking true. They say we're boxing
59:20
fans when we're telling you guys to not watch
59:22
boxing. Well, there's nothing on. All we got
59:26
is the Queensbury card in the middle of the day.
59:29
It's something. It is. It is. These are a lot
59:37
of Brit. It's a Brit slop card, unfortunately.
59:42
that doesn't mean there won't be entertaining
59:44
fights on it. I just don't know who these people
59:48
are. So I can't really tell you. Thus, once this
59:57
is over, this should be over like early evening
1:00:01
timeframe. So that would be a good time to, you
1:00:07
know, go somewhere outside. Well, on that pleasant
1:00:17
note. Alright. Social media shit. LVX Media Net.
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That's the social media handle on everything.
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I think we're fucking around on Blue Sky these
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up. But there you go. With all that, we're heading
1:01:19
into Mexican slop and Brit slop. Not a great
1:01:28
weekend, but there's still boxing. Parting words.
1:01:36
Oh man, this is a boring week. That's all you
1:01:42
got to say? No, China forever. China forever.
1:01:47
Comrades. Kaleo Ko, to Zufa you fucking go. I'm
1:02:00
trying to find a good quote here. Fuck it, I'm
1:02:08
going with this. Bruce Lee. If you always put
1:02:11
limit on everything you do, physical or anything
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else, it will spread into your work and into
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your life. There are no limits. There are only
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plateaus and you must not stay there. You must
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go beyond them. No limit boxing. So that's nice.
1:02:31
All right. That's it for this edition of the
1:02:34
Boxing B -Sides. We will see you on the other
1:02:36
side. of Nick Ball and Figueroa.