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Dr. Nicole LaBeach, Dr. Joseph Asamoah, Ashley Woods & Tarence Wheeler · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: I advice is free, it can change your life. Welcome
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Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversation. I am your host, Rashan McDonald.
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Speaker 1: I recognize that we all have different definitions of success.
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Speaker 1: For some insuscisable paycheck, mine is helping people wake up
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Speaker 1: and inspiring them to accomplish their goals and live their
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Speaker 1: very best life. These are my passion. That's what I'm
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Speaker 1: going to do for you. That's why I created Money
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Speaker 1: Making Conversation dot com. I want you to stop tripping
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Speaker 1: over small challenges and prepare to rise above the bigger
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Speaker 1: obstacles that life will present to you. My next guest
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Speaker 1: is Dr Nicole La Beach. She is President and CEO
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Speaker 1: of Volition Enterprises, Incorporated, a premier organizational development or o
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Speaker 1: D firm specializing in the areas of coaching, training, change management, diversity,
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Speaker 1: equity and inclusion. She is the host. She is not
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Speaker 1: only the host of it, She's now a host of
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Speaker 1: a new relationship show called Put a Ring On It,
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Speaker 1: which you may know from that fantastic song that Beyonce
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Speaker 1: several years ago, Put a Ring on It. Put a
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Speaker 1: Ring on It show follows three long time couples would
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Speaker 1: help from Dr Nicola Beach, who embarked on the Ultimate
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Speaker 1: Relationship Test. From week to week, the couples are pushed
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Speaker 1: outside their comfort zones, the comfort to confront the question
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Speaker 1: they've been afraid to ask? Is there happy? Is there
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Speaker 1: really happiness? Ever after? I don't know, we'll find out.
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Speaker 1: That's why I got on the show. Dr Cola beach
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Speaker 1: wisdom has inspired the audiences of Essence Magazine, the Steve
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Speaker 1: Harvey Morning Show, TV, Jake's audiences, all these different things
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Speaker 1: rolling out in magazine, CBS Radio. Please welcome to money
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Speaker 1: Making Conversation. I'm gonna call my friend. She's into the
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Speaker 1: relationship business now. Dr the Cola Beach, Hello, that well,
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Speaker 1: I need to ask how you you know you're out
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Speaker 1: there in the relationship business in the middle of a pandemic.
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Speaker 1: All I know is I will not want to be
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Speaker 1: single right now. People wearing masks. You don't know if
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Speaker 1: you know they're talking about you can have it. You
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Speaker 1: might have to be making love and get the COVID.
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Speaker 1: Naty you kiss, you get the COVID ninthy holding the
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Speaker 1: hand you get the COVID naty. I don't know if
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Speaker 1: his relationship a dead thing. What is the new way technology?
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Speaker 1: The way you? You? You? You see somebody online and
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Speaker 1: you just marry them. What you do? What you can't
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Speaker 1: hold hands? No, that's not now, that's not it. Yes,
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Speaker 1: don't see them all line and marry. Then you'll be
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Speaker 1: asking me how to help. I can't happen. That's what
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Speaker 1: you do. But UM, you know, first of all, this
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Speaker 1: a delight to be here with you you. Um, you
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Speaker 1: are so wonderful and inspiring and UM, you might not
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Speaker 1: remember Rushawin, but you actually helped me, UM when I
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Speaker 1: first came on the Steve Harvey Morning Show. So just
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Speaker 1: a little blast from the past of gratitude because your
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Speaker 1: footprint and presence has been so big over the years.
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Speaker 1: So I absolutely thank you for that. I believe you
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Speaker 1: have to thank people who helped you along the way.
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Speaker 1: So you know now that I'm I'm in this relationship space, UM,
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Speaker 1: and hosting this show must sweeten. Ever forget, we must
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Speaker 1: never forget, um, those who came and helped to create
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Speaker 1: the narrative. We know. The thing about that is that
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Speaker 1: I appreciate you saying that, but uh when I hear
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Speaker 1: that a lot from people, and just like, you're talented,
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Speaker 1: and I've always been a person that you know, it
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Speaker 1: wasn't risky for me to give anybody an opportunity that
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Speaker 1: I felt was solidly I had a solid understanding of
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Speaker 1: their capabilities. And I always felt you had a solid
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Speaker 1: understanding of your capabilities. Plus you because blood people, they're
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Speaker 1: passionate about something. But then it does that passion translate to, uh,
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Speaker 1: the ability to succeed in it, and you always felt
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Speaker 1: was the was the one and uh, and so it's
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Speaker 1: it's fun when I when I see that, and and
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Speaker 1: I do, and I've done it a lot in my life.
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Speaker 1: Just uh, just trust in my natural instinct, doc Nicole,
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Speaker 1: is that when you when people say that to me,
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Speaker 1: I go yeah, And it doesn't really it doesn't really
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Speaker 1: pop back in my brain until somebody reminds, like, oh
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Speaker 1: you have remember yeah, And because when you I know
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Speaker 1: how large the brand of Steve Harvey isn't large because
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Speaker 1: I was there, not built it with him. And so
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Speaker 1: when people were introduced to that massive audience, it really
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Speaker 1: really did set set motion a major change and you
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Speaker 1: were in a position to take advantage of it. Well,
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Speaker 1: I appreciate it, I do. And you know, this is
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Speaker 1: a really exciting time. Um though it is a crazy time,
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Speaker 1: right you. You said it best. With everything that's happening
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Speaker 1: with COVID, It's like people are like, God, how do
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Speaker 1: you date? What do you do? And I say, you know, Um,
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Speaker 1: this COVID experience is really creating some boundaries that slows
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Speaker 1: things down, Thank you, in a way that many of
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Speaker 1: us probably would have benefited from if we were using
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Speaker 1: some of these boundaries before COVID and how we were dating. Right,
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Speaker 1: I agree with it because slowing, right, slowing things down. Um.
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Speaker 1: What I say is, you know, dating is about collecting data,
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Speaker 1: and when you slow things down, you get to really
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Speaker 1: collect enough data to see are you dating a representative
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Speaker 1: or are you dating a full person? So what COVID
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Speaker 1: is now done, it's forced people to take the time
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Speaker 1: to do the due diligence of conversation and um being
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Speaker 1: cautiously um connected so that they can have enough time
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Speaker 1: to see who they're really dating. And that's really important.
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Speaker 1: And I are one of the most the popular lines
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Speaker 1: of Steve Harvey's first book, Act Like a lady think
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Speaker 1: like a man was the Naty Day rule, And basically
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Speaker 1: that's what you're saying in collecting data and being able
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Speaker 1: to sit back and not immediately jump into a sexual
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Speaker 1: relationship with a person, understand, Or do they like your
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Speaker 1: kids that don't like your kids? Do it like you did?
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Speaker 1: Like the food you eat? That Naty Day period and
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Speaker 1: it and it translated to a major reason why that
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Speaker 1: book was so successful. And you're saying the same thing here.
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Speaker 1: The pandemic has slowed down quickly maybe quickly jumping into
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Speaker 1: bed with each other and also really identifying the lifestyle
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Speaker 1: of that person that you may want a relationship with,
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Speaker 1: or how are they, where do they live, or they
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Speaker 1: do they take care of themselves physically? All these things, well,
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Speaker 1: some of the processes that were skipped, they're now being
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Speaker 1: looked at in a different manner. And also because of
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Speaker 1: mask you know, you can't exactly see who you're who
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Speaker 1: you're trying to create relationship right off, and so you
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Speaker 1: really need to get to know the person a lot
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Speaker 1: more and that also leads to long time relationships. So
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Speaker 1: those values you talk of, the pandemic is not a
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Speaker 1: good thing. We don't want to be in it for
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Speaker 1: from a relationship standpoint, it is forcing us to look
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Speaker 1: at the person and not just the physical or object. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and how do they you know, how do they hand
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Speaker 1: there every day? You know? Have things appropriately changed for
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Speaker 1: them as it should? Right? So even things like if
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Speaker 1: they haven't skipped a beat, then that tells you something
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Speaker 1: because in this health crisis, you should be skipping some
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Speaker 1: things like like, they're right, you know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 1: ain't that wrong with let's go no social distance? Doing
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Speaker 1: it right? Exactly? So if they're not skipping nothing, if
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Speaker 1: they're still driving, you know, a hundred and fifty miles
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Speaker 1: and our and their imaginary cars on you know, on
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Speaker 1: a road that's calling for forty five, then then all
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Speaker 1: of that information is saying to you, Okay, if this
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Speaker 1: is how they're leading their life in this dynamic, um,
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Speaker 1: if this is really the match made in heaven? You know,
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Speaker 1: so it's not a good thing. I agree with you,
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Speaker 1: lots of lost, lots of compassion um for what we're
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Speaker 1: all experiencing. But it is pushing people to be a
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Speaker 1: whole lot more responsible with their heart and with their safety.
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Speaker 1: And then really that's what it all comes down to.
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Speaker 1: Is the relationship, the essence of it. So when I
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Speaker 1: look at your firm, you know you're the presidency or
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Speaker 1: Volition Enterprises of Premier organizational Development. The term that the
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Speaker 1: one thing that pops out to me is the word
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Speaker 1: diversity because we've seen doing this pandemic run, especially with
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Speaker 1: the death of murder of George Floyd and Minnesota, that
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Speaker 1: the push for diversity has been a huge calling card.
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Speaker 1: You know, that's probably one of the reasons why Kamala
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Speaker 1: Harris was chosen as the vice president they elect on
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Speaker 1: the ticket for Joe Biden was tied to diversity. I
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Speaker 1: see I see women being elevated. I see men getting
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Speaker 1: deals they didn't getting deal. You know, the president of
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Speaker 1: Free Farm che's female ABC. You know digital all, there's
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Speaker 1: a lot of African Americans who are ascending the latter
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Speaker 1: and that world diversity really pops out. So during this time,
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Speaker 1: how has the work? How have you I'm gonna say
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Speaker 1: the word benefit, How have you gotten calls to assist
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Speaker 1: in an enhancing diversity platform? Talk about it over. How
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Speaker 1: has been different for the term diversity in the corporate
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Speaker 1: and entertainment world? Oh yeah, I mean, you know, my
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Speaker 1: business partner and I Crystal Khalil. I talked about her
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Speaker 1: as well as my own journey. You know, when I
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Speaker 1: was in the corporate arena, I was in senior leadership
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Speaker 1: UM for News Corporation, which is a UM Fox parent
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Speaker 1: company for all of the Fox affiliates. And you know,
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Speaker 1: diversity is such a challenged conversation in this country. We
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Speaker 1: have experienced George Lloyd and that tragedy, among so many others.
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Speaker 1: But it's like I talked with my partner, Christo Khalil,
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Speaker 1: who is the first African American executive pro PORSHA. She's
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Speaker 1: no longer there, but what it took to have that
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Speaker 1: part of her leadership narrative and what it takes for
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Speaker 1: our diverse colleagues and peers to be recognized. It's it's
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Speaker 1: quite interesting that often they've already done half of the
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Speaker 1: work that they deserve but have not received the benefit
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Speaker 1: of So in with all of this happening, what our
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Speaker 1: firm has seen is, you know a lot of companies
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Speaker 1: saying we don't know how to have this conversation. We're
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Speaker 1: seeing these where it's saying white people help, and we're
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Speaker 1: seeing UM colleagues that there's something different about the way
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Speaker 1: they're coming to work today. There's something different about their
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Speaker 1: temperament and their sadness of still seeing the casual nature
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Speaker 1: of a George Floyd's death. And we don't know how
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Speaker 1: to talk to them. We don't know what to say,
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Speaker 1: we don't know what to ask, we don't know what
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Speaker 1: to do. And thankfully, um, we've had some really great
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Speaker 1: conversations with corporations who've reached out and said can you help?
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Speaker 1: And what we said is how connected are you to
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Speaker 1: the solution that you're seeking? Are you stuck? Are you
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Speaker 1: refusing to move? Where are you? And can we partner
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Speaker 1: with you to answer the tough question so we see
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Speaker 1: what's next. So twenty twenty in that space has been
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Speaker 1: a blessing that many firms like ours now just stars.
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Speaker 1: So many firms like Cars with Sean, who are connected
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Speaker 1: and committed to diversity have been praying for and now
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Speaker 1: it's actually moving forward, right And so that's what that's
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Speaker 1: what excites me. And uh, that wasn't excite to be
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Speaker 1: the role that President Trump has played in the White House,
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Speaker 1: you know. But what excites me is that when white
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Speaker 1: people in general admit there is a problem not tied
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Speaker 1: to the fact that they've been forced there because of
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Speaker 1: affirmative action or some legal legislation. Because I've always believed that,
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Speaker 1: you know, don't deny me because of my color, give me,
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Speaker 1: give me the opportunity because of my skill. And that's
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Speaker 1: all we're asking when you start talking about diversity. Now
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Speaker 1: we're gonna shift gears to come by. Where I really
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Speaker 1: brought you on the show, was that you you kind
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Speaker 1: of a friend of mine. I wanna call my friend
13:48
Speaker 1: of mine because I did two movies with him, Will
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Speaker 1: Packer thinking like a man, thinking like a man too,
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Speaker 1: And we go all the way back to stump the stump,
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Speaker 1: the uh stump the yard. Now you know this Weekly
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Speaker 1: Serious is about following three couples right who have a
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Speaker 1: long term relationship and they have not lived the ring
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Speaker 1: on the finger, to put the ring the ring on
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Speaker 1: the finger. Now, what attracted you to you? Because that's
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Speaker 1: the key moment right there, because you know, women are
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Speaker 1: interesting because because men, we we we make decisions, we're
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Speaker 1: we're we're we're kind of like I called satisfied animals,
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Speaker 1: you know, in other words, if it ain't broke, don't
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Speaker 1: don't don't mess with it word. So what I create change,
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Speaker 1: and nobody just asking for change. So we will ride
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Speaker 1: out our relationship or a situation, whether it's long, as
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Speaker 1: it's not causing any disruption and how pattern of what
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Speaker 1: we're doing, we're gonna ride it out. And sometimes women
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Speaker 1: would allow that to happen, and they want to create
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Speaker 1: disruption because of fear of loss, of fear of ending
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Speaker 1: something that they believe in. But sometimes you need disruption.
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Speaker 1: And so when I when I read about this show
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Speaker 1: coming out, and then I also read that it was
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Speaker 1: being shot during the pandemic, I went, Okay, I gotta
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Speaker 1: attract this now, I gotta I gotta find out because
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Speaker 1: you do all others, right, the long term relationship that
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Speaker 1: don't have a that not have no sign of commitment.
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Speaker 1: When I said commitment about putting a ring on that finger,
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Speaker 1: and you're shooting it a pandemic, the floors, you're got
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Speaker 1: in the cold, the beach, Oh that was that was loaded? Um, well,
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Speaker 1: you know Will Packer first of all, he is he
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Speaker 1: is the funniest dude. Oh my god, he is just
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Speaker 1: a personality unto himself. What a great guy. Um, you
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Speaker 1: know all the potential for this concept and yes, we
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Speaker 1: shot it in COVID. I, you know, take my hat
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Speaker 1: off to the crew and to the executive producers because
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Speaker 1: they kept us safe. Um, they kept us tested, they
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Speaker 1: kept the the arena safe for us to do the work,
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Speaker 1: and I really appreciate that that that should not go
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Speaker 1: on set. But yeah, we have these couples who have
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Speaker 1: been in a relationship for a long time, and the
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Speaker 1: question is are they stuck or refusing to move as
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Speaker 1: it relates to moving forward with with a ring with
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Speaker 1: an engagement that leads to marriage show, the premise of
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Speaker 1: the show is it's time. It's time to make a decision.
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Speaker 1: Either you are willing to put a ring on it,
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Speaker 1: or maybe this is not your happily ever after and
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Speaker 1: maybe you need to start a new situation somewhere else,
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Speaker 1: And good luck on thatt if that's the way you
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Speaker 1: choose to go. And I wanted to do the show
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Speaker 1: because I wanted to hold the space for folks to
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Speaker 1: really recognize that they're in the driver's seat of a
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Speaker 1: lot of the narrative and that this process would help
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Speaker 1: them figure out where they really needed to be on
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Speaker 1: this critical question of is this who you should be
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Speaker 1: co creating your life with? Is this who you should
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Speaker 1: be building a future with or should you be doing
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Speaker 1: something else? So when it came across my desk, I
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Speaker 1: was excited. I was like, Wow, this is not going
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Speaker 1: to be fun um to help some people and hold
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Speaker 1: the space for them to do their relationships at another level.
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Speaker 1: But I believe it was going to give some people
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Speaker 1: hope that are experiencing this question in their own relationship
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Speaker 1: rushan or they're just in a relationship and they just
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Speaker 1: need some new tools to help them do the relationship better.
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Speaker 1: The measures doch Nicole uh and these three couples that
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Speaker 1: are featured, were you're part of the selection process or
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Speaker 1: they were always selected when they brought you on board, No,
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Speaker 1: I mean we talked about the folks and what was
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Speaker 1: necessary and what was needed because you know, people come
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Speaker 1: into situation thinking the grass is greener, and usually lee
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Speaker 1: they have a list of what's greener. Right. If you say, okay,
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Speaker 1: so what would be what would be better? Or what
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Speaker 1: what are you missing? They've got a proverbial list. So
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Speaker 1: then when people come into their lives that quote unquote
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Speaker 1: have the missing elements, then what do you do then?
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Speaker 1: What what is it calling for now? As it relates
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Speaker 1: to your work to really see is it those outside
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Speaker 1: things or is it something's going on within you that
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Speaker 1: needs to be worked out and work out in this
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Speaker 1: relationship so that you can have something better than where
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Speaker 1: you started. So you know it was something. And if
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Speaker 1: you watch it, I think we're moving to episode four
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Speaker 1: this week. Um, when you watch it, you really see
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Speaker 1: what it looks like to call all those things forward
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Speaker 1: and say no, let's not talk about it anymore. Let's
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Speaker 1: be about it and see what we're really gonna do.
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Speaker 1: Here's the thing I always like to tell people, especially
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Speaker 1: when you're getting into reality shows. You know, when the
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Speaker 1: reality shows first came out, was a lot of fighting
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Speaker 1: going on, thrown bottles and busting each other side of
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Speaker 1: the head. It really was deplorable for Black America to
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Speaker 1: be on TV because we were fighting all the time.
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Speaker 1: We were angry and angry, angry, and especially a lot
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Speaker 1: of the women. They were always shouting, cousing and pulling
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Speaker 1: hair and all that stuff. That was the portrayal of
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Speaker 1: early first out. Uh. They felt that the storylines had
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Speaker 1: to be violent when it came to to black storylines.
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Speaker 1: That's why I really liked the shows that what I'm
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Speaker 1: starting to watch, and they appealed to me. But it
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Speaker 1: still can lead to relationship issues being halted and treated
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Speaker 1: in the negative. Like, for instance, we've seen the Melody
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Speaker 1: and Hope relationship in on their TV show on the
20:52
Speaker 1: network because the fact that her husband was another relationship
20:58
Speaker 1: and so that ended in the divorce. And so when
21:00
Speaker 1: you become a host of the other of a show,
21:04
Speaker 1: and there's nothing wrong with these couples. These are three
21:06
Speaker 1: couples that came on. Okay, they were living their lives fine,
21:09
Speaker 1: you know, they were whether they had a ring on
21:11
Speaker 1: it or not, they were cool. They were cool with it. Now,
21:14
Speaker 1: isn't there a certain amount of responsibility did you hold
21:16
Speaker 1: yourself accountable to to make sure that you're not you know,
21:20
Speaker 1: I guess using television as a tool for ratings, but
21:24
Speaker 1: not but by not being a created a dysfunctional relationship
21:28
Speaker 1: for these couples where they end unnecessarily through the TV. Yeah,
21:34
Speaker 1: I mean absolutely. You know. The interesting thing for me is,
21:39
Speaker 1: you know, I was offered other um television opportunities that
21:44
Speaker 1: I didn't feel really spoke to how I lived my life,
21:49
Speaker 1: what I think is important, and my brand of really
21:53
Speaker 1: trying to help people in their relationships, in their leadership,
21:59
Speaker 1: in their business moved towards the vision that's valuable to
22:04
Speaker 1: them and value added to them. So all of those
22:08
Speaker 1: opportunities didn't fit. One of the things that I really
22:12
Speaker 1: liked about this one was I felt like, first of all,
22:18
Speaker 1: for the couples that come on the show, everything is
22:22
Speaker 1: not going the way they want and that's why they're
22:25
Speaker 1: coming on the show. They really do have a presenting problem.
22:29
Speaker 1: And the presenting problem is someone of these two is
22:34
Speaker 1: not happy with where things are. So that checked the
22:39
Speaker 1: first box. Is there something authentically happening, not just the
22:44
Speaker 1: sensationalism or like you said, you know, folks are being
22:48
Speaker 1: violent and all that stuff, because that doesn't fit who
22:51
Speaker 1: I am. So yeah, there's a problem. Are they really
22:55
Speaker 1: seeking to find a solution by doing some different things
23:00
Speaker 1: than what they've done before? Yes? Are they bought into
23:04
Speaker 1: the fact that there is a third party that can
23:08
Speaker 1: hold a space for them to ask and answer some
23:11
Speaker 1: of the critical questions. Yes? Now, do I believe that
23:16
Speaker 1: I'm the third party that can help them do that.
23:20
Speaker 1: And that really was my process, because you know, if
23:25
Speaker 1: they're coming on for the sensationalism, that's not that's gonna
23:29
Speaker 1: wear out. It's welcome soon. Because I ask a lot
23:33
Speaker 1: of tough questions and I don't I don't have any
23:36
Speaker 1: assessment of what the answer is gonna be. None. People say, well, god,
23:41
Speaker 1: do you know when you meet them if they're gonna
23:43
Speaker 1: make it? No, And they're like, like, how do you
23:48
Speaker 1: not know? I said, because people are made of behaviors.
23:52
Speaker 1: You can meet people rushauna and I'm sure you've done this.
23:55
Speaker 1: You need to be like, they'll never laugh. Oh God,
23:58
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to the wedding and I'm gonna get
24:00
Speaker 1: dressed up. But this is this is never gonna last.
24:04
Speaker 1: And then twenty five years later and grandkids you're looking,
24:08
Speaker 1: you shake your head in stolin. I didn't believe it.
24:13
Speaker 1: I didn't believe it. Then you see some that are
24:17
Speaker 1: match made in heaven, and two years later you're like,
24:21
Speaker 1: what happened? So what I've realized is people in relationships
24:25
Speaker 1: are made up behaviors, and really, if they've got relationships
24:31
Speaker 1: friendly behaviors, they're gonna have a greater shot, if they're
24:34
Speaker 1: being honest, if they're communicating, if they're finding tools. Listen,
24:40
Speaker 1: you need a hammer and all you got is a screwdriver.
24:43
Speaker 1: The minute you find out you've got a screwdriver and
24:45
Speaker 1: it needs a hammer, what do you do? Are you
24:47
Speaker 1: the one that's gonna keep using a screwdriver for a
24:50
Speaker 1: hammer job or are you gonna go get a hammer? Right?
24:54
Speaker 1: I love you? Come on, doc, come on dog. You're
24:56
Speaker 1: throwing out the metaphors. Yeah, you know, if so so,
25:01
Speaker 1: Once you see their willingness to be flexible and to
25:05
Speaker 1: do what's needed to fight for what they have or
25:09
Speaker 1: what they want, that's when you know if they've got
25:13
Speaker 1: a running shot. And I said to people, Hey, that's
25:16
Speaker 1: on them to decide. I am just a catalyst to
25:20
Speaker 1: help them figure it out. And that's what the show provided.
25:23
Speaker 1: And and when I saw that that's what Will was
25:26
Speaker 1: really trying to create with something real, I should count
25:30
Speaker 1: me in. I'm with it. Let's do it cool, she said,
25:33
Speaker 1: the word Will. That's the Atlanta's busy poweredhouse producer, Will Packer.
25:38
Speaker 1: You've seen let me talk a lot of other topics
25:40
Speaker 1: and movies to line of child murders, murders to basketball scandals.
25:44
Speaker 1: Now he loved to show several years ago I hosted
25:47
Speaker 1: by my man the nephew Tommy called Owns Ready to
25:50
Speaker 1: Love a new relative Like she says, the fourth episode
25:55
Speaker 1: is coming up. Please make sure you watch it. It's
25:57
Speaker 1: only own networker's called put a ring on it. It
26:00
Speaker 1: was shot in Atlanta mansion during the pandemic. So you
26:05
Speaker 1: need to watch it just for that. You just dadn't
26:07
Speaker 1: happen right now? People into that doing the pandemic. That
26:10
Speaker 1: when they're holding hands, when they're sitting across from each other,
26:12
Speaker 1: way across the dinner table, when they're sitting on opposite
26:15
Speaker 1: ends of the sofa. How do pandemic couples interact even
26:18
Speaker 1: though they've been together for a long time. I know
26:20
Speaker 1: my wife, Dr Nicole, she still won't let me take
26:24
Speaker 1: out to a restaurant. No, she will not let me
26:27
Speaker 1: do that. She will not let me do my daughter
26:29
Speaker 1: the same way. They said, we're dad, We're comfortable. Even so,
26:33
Speaker 1: a lot of people have not accepted the mask wearing
26:37
Speaker 1: from a social standpoint, and like you said, it does
26:40
Speaker 1: cause people to do Pauls moments in their lives to say, hey,
26:44
Speaker 1: that's I'm not comfortable with that. So I'm pretty sure
26:46
Speaker 1: what were the most are not trying to reveal in
26:48
Speaker 1: this series of the episodes as air so far? What
26:52
Speaker 1: are some of the moments? Do it that you realized
26:54
Speaker 1: this was a pandemic moment that this aired so far
26:57
Speaker 1: in the first three episodes, you know, just just like
27:01
Speaker 1: what you said, Um. One of the things that was
27:03
Speaker 1: big for me but you won't see in the episodes
27:06
Speaker 1: is you know you're with a crew and you you
27:11
Speaker 1: know they're they're taking care of all of the things
27:14
Speaker 1: that are necessary to make the show happen, and you
27:18
Speaker 1: realize you've never seen their faces. It's like, wait a minute,
27:22
Speaker 1: We've been working together for weeks, we've been in the
27:26
Speaker 1: same dwelling, UM, but I don't know what you look like.
27:31
Speaker 1: And that occurred to me when I finally saw um,
27:35
Speaker 1: one of the guys um we call him Mr G.
27:39
Speaker 1: When I saw him with his mask hanging down, and
27:43
Speaker 1: I recognized in that moment, Wow, I've been working with
27:48
Speaker 1: these amazingly talented people for weeks, and if I saw
27:52
Speaker 1: them on the street months from now without a mask,
27:57
Speaker 1: I would not know them. I was like, we are
28:00
Speaker 1: in a different time. Stringent protocols, no hugs, no touching.
28:07
Speaker 1: All the things were were not used by the crew
28:10
Speaker 1: that was wiped down immediately and sprayed and wiped down
28:13
Speaker 1: immediately wearing the mask. Because in the end we all
28:16
Speaker 1: want to go home, and she is the host. I
28:19
Speaker 1: would say, hot new show, lipatory, hot new show with
28:22
Speaker 1: a hot title, put your ring on it, done by
28:24
Speaker 1: a hot big time b ducing Will Packer by hot
28:28
Speaker 1: host Dr the Cold Little Beach. Check it out. I
28:32
Speaker 1: want to leave me. I I'm gonna reach out to him,
28:35
Speaker 1: put some banners out there starting post yourself on my
28:37
Speaker 1: social media again. I'm so glad we reconnected. And thank
28:40
Speaker 1: you for those compliments. I really appreciate it. God has
28:43
Speaker 1: put me in a position to help a lot of people,
28:44
Speaker 1: and then along the way when I help them and
28:46
Speaker 1: they come back and they compliment me, give me credit
28:49
Speaker 1: for something I felt it was just my duty to do.
28:51
Speaker 1: And the blessing that you are showing on TV today
28:54
Speaker 1: is a blessing to me that I that I did
28:57
Speaker 1: what I felt I had to do for you and
28:59
Speaker 1: can change to put your success okay, doctor, I appreciate
29:04
Speaker 1: you so much. UM love to come back anytime you
29:08
Speaker 1: will be back. We got we got f analies, We've
29:11
Speaker 1: got for anales coming up here post talk or stuff.
29:14
Speaker 1: We got more to do. You know, I got a
29:18
Speaker 1: couple of idea. I'm gonna call you with a couple
29:20
Speaker 1: of ideas to me and you and will need to
29:22
Speaker 1: say that I got another idea of a show idea.
29:24
Speaker 1: There's been bothering me for years in the relationship genre.
29:27
Speaker 1: So you're gonna hear from me this week. Okay, And
29:29
Speaker 1: you said, richean, I'm just some doctor, said rich that
29:32
Speaker 1: makes no sense. You need to stop calling me. Keep
29:35
Speaker 1: stick to what you do, okay, manage people, produce people.
29:41
Speaker 1: But I think, let me tell you when humility needs humor,
29:45
Speaker 1: I doubt that I will be saying after you're talking
29:49
Speaker 1: about I doubt that good. So I'm probably I go
29:54
Speaker 1: to l A to mar So I think I'll be
29:56
Speaker 1: flying on the l A tomorrow. But this week, maybe Thursday,
29:59
Speaker 1: I want to get on the phone, would you. I
30:00
Speaker 1: got an idea that it's been it's been good bothering
30:03
Speaker 1: me and because it's been something that I've been dealing
30:06
Speaker 1: with and I always thought about the what ifs of life?
30:10
Speaker 1: When when when we come to relationship. I want to
30:12
Speaker 1: run about you, okay, because you're on a hot show.
30:16
Speaker 1: I appreciate a big time we talked. So bye bye,
30:19
Speaker 1: thank you. We'll be right back with more from Marsa
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Speaker 1: is Dr Joseph Asama. He's the property investment strategist and
32:32
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32:36
Speaker 1: Ghanem and came to America by way of England over
32:39
Speaker 1: thirty years ago with only one hundred dollars in his pocket.
32:42
Speaker 1: He now owns over for the homes they rent the
32:44
Speaker 1: low income families. His mission is simple, is to change
32:48
Speaker 1: lives and provide opportunities for low income people to live
32:51
Speaker 1: in safer neighborhoods and have access to resources, better education
32:54
Speaker 1: for their children, and beautiful design equity homes. He provides
32:59
Speaker 1: solutions to te gentrification and affordable housing issues and unique
33:03
Speaker 1: in very very effective ways. Please work with the Money
33:06
Speaker 1: Making Conversation. Dr Joseph asamor Chean. What an honor. I
33:12
Speaker 1: am so happy to thank you. Well, I'm gonn tell
33:16
Speaker 1: you something when I when I read your bio and
33:17
Speaker 1: they they told me you'd like to do my show
33:20
Speaker 1: and I can interview you. You know, my show is
33:22
Speaker 1: about uplift, It's about motivation, about letting people know there
33:25
Speaker 1: are there is a better option for you live and
33:28
Speaker 1: that's that seems to be your mantra. Man. It's like,
33:30
Speaker 1: you know, when I looked at everything I read is
33:32
Speaker 1: about how can somebody understand that there's an opportunity they
33:36
Speaker 1: don't know about. You can give them information not only
33:38
Speaker 1: for a lifestyle, but but an income opportunity to change
33:42
Speaker 1: and value themselves as better people in America. Exactly, exactly, exactly. Yeah,
33:48
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to sharing some of my ideas and
33:51
Speaker 1: some of my journey's traveling tribulations, ups and downs, and
33:54
Speaker 1: hopefully be a source of inspiration to your listeners. Well,
33:57
Speaker 1: you are a social inspiration because when I read it
33:59
Speaker 1: in the beginning, you know, you thirty years ago a
34:01
Speaker 1: hundred dollars in your pocket, and a lot of people
34:04
Speaker 1: start with you know, that's that maybe a lot of
34:06
Speaker 1: money to some people because in the era that we
34:08
Speaker 1: lived today, in the middle of the pandemic, let's talk
34:10
Speaker 1: about that. Let's start right now with that, because we
34:13
Speaker 1: know housing there's a major issue. People are being evicted.
34:16
Speaker 1: CDC did a suspend payment, but to come January, you
34:20
Speaker 1: still will have to pay the payments that you missed
34:23
Speaker 1: during that suspension period. How a guy who reads out
34:27
Speaker 1: to low income housing, how has that impacted what you're
34:30
Speaker 1: trying to do for the community and the people who
34:32
Speaker 1: are renting from you. Yeah, I mean what I found,
34:35
Speaker 1: as I said, the houses, the basic human needs that
34:38
Speaker 1: everybody needs, and what I realized when I first came here. Um.
34:43
Speaker 1: In fact, the story was, I came here with I
34:47
Speaker 1: need one person in the United States. I used to
34:48
Speaker 1: live in England. And when I came here, my uh,
34:52
Speaker 1: about six weeks after I arrived, my boss was fired. Uh,
34:56
Speaker 1: not because of anything he did wrong. It was just
34:58
Speaker 1: that it was a reorganization and essentially the new guy
35:03
Speaker 1: that came in, um, you know, got rid of my
35:06
Speaker 1: my boss, and he was like go. So about six
35:09
Speaker 1: or seven weeks later, a few weeks later, we met
35:11
Speaker 1: up for lunch and this was, in hindsight, probably a
35:15
Speaker 1: major change in my life. He's safeally what he said
35:19
Speaker 1: to me during that line, he says, look, this is America.
35:21
Speaker 1: These things happen, and but make sure you have a
35:24
Speaker 1: plan B because you don't know what's going to happen tomorrow.
35:28
Speaker 1: And this guy apparently he had like ten houses, and
35:32
Speaker 1: I just couldn't fathom how anybody could have more than
35:35
Speaker 1: one house? This is like, how is that possible? And
35:38
Speaker 1: he just said, look, Joe, if whatever you do, make
35:41
Speaker 1: sure you have a plan. B I chose real estate.
35:44
Speaker 1: But if you do buy something, make sure that you
35:47
Speaker 1: keep it, don't sell it, because over the long haul, Um,
35:51
Speaker 1: you know you'll be fine. Because he had this rental
35:53
Speaker 1: income coming in which is able to provide him that
35:57
Speaker 1: sort of cushion because he lost his job. So I
36:01
Speaker 1: knew zero about real estate invest in and I didn't
36:04
Speaker 1: have any money. But you know, I took about his words.
36:08
Speaker 1: I did some research and I bought my first house
36:10
Speaker 1: about a couple of years later, a complete disaster. Everything
36:14
Speaker 1: I could have gone wrong went wrong. And um, I
36:17
Speaker 1: mean I can go through that. But when you say
36:20
Speaker 1: everything it could be wrong, cove gone wrong? What wrong?
36:23
Speaker 1: What do you mean when you say that? Well, in
36:26
Speaker 1: this particular case, Um, the house had tenants inside already.
36:31
Speaker 1: And so when I spoke to him what the potential
36:34
Speaker 1: person I was buying? The seller of the house, I also,
36:36
Speaker 1: you know, what are the tenants? Like? He said, Oh man,
36:38
Speaker 1: they're great, They're fantastic people. I mean, I was straight
36:40
Speaker 1: from England, you know, all Americans are honest people, so
36:43
Speaker 1: I took Hi about his words. And after I bought
36:46
Speaker 1: the house, I found out that they hadn't paid him
36:48
Speaker 1: for three months and they had a water bill of
36:51
Speaker 1: five thousand dollars um. So that's why I that was
36:54
Speaker 1: my first entrain into real estate. This this this, uh,
36:58
Speaker 1: this disaster and uh. But essentially what happened in the end,
37:03
Speaker 1: I was able to turn that thing around. I didn't
37:04
Speaker 1: know anything, and they were to turn around, worked with
37:07
Speaker 1: the tenants, and we're able to catch everything up. But
37:10
Speaker 1: looking back, that was probably um the best thing that
37:14
Speaker 1: ever happened, not because I mean, we can laugh about
37:16
Speaker 1: it now, but during the time, it was just pure
37:19
Speaker 1: help what I learned. What I learned was everything that
37:21
Speaker 1: you're not supposed to do, what not to do. And
37:25
Speaker 1: once I was able to sort of pick myself up
37:27
Speaker 1: and then bought the second house, and then bought the
37:29
Speaker 1: third house and just sort of continued until about fifty
37:33
Speaker 1: years ago when all my bad time, I was working
37:37
Speaker 1: for a major technology company. My income that company equaled
37:42
Speaker 1: what I was making for my rental properties, so I
37:44
Speaker 1: was able to have that plan b that you know,
37:48
Speaker 1: my ex boss told me about, so I mean that's
37:51
Speaker 1: essentially the journey is that real estate you know it
37:55
Speaker 1: has lost the benefits. Uh, it can be a really
37:59
Speaker 1: true vehicle towards wealth, wealth building. You can create a legacy. Uh,
38:05
Speaker 1: you can get cash flow, you cant tax benefits. Dr Joseph,
38:10
Speaker 1: let mess you this, you know, because you know here
38:12
Speaker 1: the word planing B, and I just I just see it.
38:14
Speaker 1: You just became an entrepreneur or are you working for somebody?
38:17
Speaker 1: And you just became an entrepreneur, and you use the
38:20
Speaker 1: gift that you have the ability to to uh to
38:23
Speaker 1: see your visionary skills saying okay, this is income. Because
38:27
Speaker 1: we see so many popular TV shows on now to
38:29
Speaker 1: kind of talk about flipping homes and by just that's
38:33
Speaker 1: you're so popular now. So thirty years ago they weren't.
38:35
Speaker 1: That idea wasn't popular, but now it's a TV friendly
38:38
Speaker 1: show to watch. And so so your plan B, Like
38:42
Speaker 1: I said to me, it's just that you just you
38:44
Speaker 1: just welcome your role as an entrepreneur and then you
38:47
Speaker 1: would enable you to be able to walk away from
38:50
Speaker 1: that hourly wage or that for the our week job.
38:53
Speaker 1: There's so many people are strapped to and so so
38:56
Speaker 1: when I when I see that, and I see the
38:57
Speaker 1: opportunity that you present yourself. It's it's an easy conversation
39:01
Speaker 1: talking about web about one home, about to home. We
39:04
Speaker 1: see bodies on did you use personal loans? Did you
39:07
Speaker 1: use income from your bank savings? How did you initially
39:10
Speaker 1: start buying a home and then as second home? And third?
39:14
Speaker 1: Did you leverage the first home? How did that? How
39:16
Speaker 1: did this this this process stop process start to develop? Yeah, okay,
39:20
Speaker 1: So the first house I bought, um, you know, the
39:24
Speaker 1: one with that disaster. Essentially the seller I mean that
39:30
Speaker 1: time I was working the seller at that point was
39:33
Speaker 1: able to well able to negotiate with him because he
39:35
Speaker 1: wanted to get rid of the house, whereby essentially I
39:39
Speaker 1: was able to buy that house without much money down.
39:42
Speaker 1: You know, we're able to negotiate a low down payment,
39:45
Speaker 1: and I was able to afford that because he wanted
39:46
Speaker 1: to get He was what we call a motivated seller,
39:48
Speaker 1: and he just want to get rid of that thing.
39:50
Speaker 1: Right now. The second half, the second house, which is
39:52
Speaker 1: probably more important, um, was that at that time I
39:56
Speaker 1: bought a house specifically uh whereby I could rent some
40:01
Speaker 1: space in the home. Okay, So I had a basement
40:05
Speaker 1: which I knew I could sort of rent out. It
40:08
Speaker 1: had three bedrooms upstairs. I was like, I lived in
40:10
Speaker 1: one and rented the other two out. So what that
40:12
Speaker 1: meant was that I could buy this home. But my expenses,
40:17
Speaker 1: the biggest expense that most people have is their housing expense.
40:20
Speaker 1: If you're able to drive that thing down to buy
40:24
Speaker 1: renting part of the space in the home, uh then
40:27
Speaker 1: your everyday expenses goes down quite tremendously. So in this case,
40:32
Speaker 1: the income that I was getting from the property essentially
40:36
Speaker 1: equalled the mortgage that I was paying out, and therefore
40:39
Speaker 1: I was able to save more money. And then I
40:43
Speaker 1: saved and hit from saving, and therefore, by the savings
40:46
Speaker 1: from the second property, I was able to have the
40:48
Speaker 1: down payment for the third property and so on. And
40:51
Speaker 1: then if that makes sense, uh So, the idea is
40:54
Speaker 1: that there's two things. One is okay, if you don't
40:56
Speaker 1: have any money okay, and you want to get this
40:59
Speaker 1: thing going, then you have several options. One is to
41:02
Speaker 1: obviously you need to either increase your income by having
41:06
Speaker 1: a side hustle or generate some income one way or
41:09
Speaker 1: the other. Or you can reduce your expenses. And the
41:12
Speaker 1: biggest expense that most people have is a housing expense,
41:15
Speaker 1: So how can you drive that housing expense lower? So
41:18
Speaker 1: it's that you can save some money from which you
41:20
Speaker 1: can then start. If you don't have that, then the
41:22
Speaker 1: third option is to develop expertise and knowledge, and therefore
41:26
Speaker 1: your partner your partner with people who do have the resources. Okay,
41:30
Speaker 1: so there's people out there who have money but don't
41:32
Speaker 1: know how to do this. Uh So you have to
41:35
Speaker 1: bring something to the table for them to want to
41:37
Speaker 1: work with you, so that you may have the knowledge,
41:39
Speaker 1: or you may have the time or the expertise, or
41:41
Speaker 1: you develop that anyway, and then you can partner with
41:44
Speaker 1: people who may not who have the money but don't
41:46
Speaker 1: not have the skills. I remember a couple of steps,
41:48
Speaker 1: but I want to say a couple about that. Teen
41:50
Speaker 1: years ago, a friend of mine approached me and he
41:52
Speaker 1: was telling me about you know who's going into uh
41:56
Speaker 1: interest in the neighborhood and you were saying that the
41:58
Speaker 1: city in general wantch these neighborhoods upgraded because it because
42:03
Speaker 1: if you upgrade the block. Because he was just talking
42:05
Speaker 1: about we went down this block. He said, what we're
42:06
Speaker 1: gonna do is we're gonna buy these homes here, and
42:09
Speaker 1: we're gonna upgrade them a little bit. And we upgrade
42:11
Speaker 1: these homes and fix the street, then the city will
42:13
Speaker 1: be able to raise the tax dollars. And he said,
42:16
Speaker 1: that's the that's why the city likes when you come
42:18
Speaker 1: in and get these neighborhoods upgraded because they can charge
42:21
Speaker 1: more taxes. Now, when you charge more taxes than turn,
42:25
Speaker 1: that means that the people living in these homes can't
42:28
Speaker 1: maybe not maybe or may not can't afford it. So
42:30
Speaker 1: how does that work with you? Because when you're going in,
42:33
Speaker 1: I'm sure you're taking these homes, you're purchasing them, that
42:36
Speaker 1: you're upgrading them. Do the taxes increase on the people,
42:39
Speaker 1: are you? Or do you pass those those taxes increases
42:42
Speaker 1: to the to the renters? How does that work? Okay? Um,
42:48
Speaker 1: so you buy a house and then you improve it,
42:52
Speaker 1: and then you you know, once you improve it, obviously
42:54
Speaker 1: the value has gone up. And uh, most times, as
42:57
Speaker 1: you said before, the tax of the assessment are based
43:00
Speaker 1: on the value the home, so that the taxes may
43:02
Speaker 1: go up. So I mean, that's just the reality. So
43:05
Speaker 1: what I do is that you know, I rent most
43:09
Speaker 1: of my houses to low income families. Many of the
43:12
Speaker 1: families have housing choice vouches and Section eight as they
43:15
Speaker 1: as people commonly refer them to. And one thing I've
43:20
Speaker 1: realized is that there's a lot of famili there's a
43:23
Speaker 1: stigma associated with Section eight in low income housing. There's uh.
43:27
Speaker 1: What I realized is that there's a large number of
43:29
Speaker 1: families out there who are really no different than you
43:32
Speaker 1: and I wish on um. They want the best of
43:35
Speaker 1: their children. They don't want to be shot at them
43:37
Speaker 1: whether you want to be shot at. They want to
43:39
Speaker 1: have a decent home, They want to live in a
43:42
Speaker 1: uh you know, you know where, access to amanities. There
43:45
Speaker 1: really no different than you and I. The only difference
43:46
Speaker 1: is that they may not have the money, but their goals,
43:51
Speaker 1: their outlook, their expectations for their children are no different
43:53
Speaker 1: than you and I. So what I realized when I
43:55
Speaker 1: realized this is that if I can provide quality housing
43:59
Speaker 1: in good areas, I can attract those families and uh
44:04
Speaker 1: and when when you get those families, it truly is
44:07
Speaker 1: a blessing because what happens is that they are so
44:10
Speaker 1: appreciative of the fact that someone is giving them an
44:13
Speaker 1: opportunity to live in a nice house, in a nice area,
44:16
Speaker 1: and four things happen. One is that they pay their
44:18
Speaker 1: rent to is that they take care of your property.
44:21
Speaker 1: Three they're pleasant to deal with. And four, which is
44:25
Speaker 1: probably the most important one, they stay a long time.
44:28
Speaker 1: And this business, as I'm sure you know, it's cheaper
44:32
Speaker 1: to keep an existing customer happy is to go find
44:36
Speaker 1: another one. So in the space of the real estate environment,
44:40
Speaker 1: it's cheaper to have an existing tenant happy, so they
44:43
Speaker 1: stay with you a long time rather than having the
44:45
Speaker 1: vacancy and turnover when they leave. Because when they leave,
44:48
Speaker 1: you've got to paint the place again, you're clean up
44:50
Speaker 1: and so forth. So um so, therefore the you know,
44:54
Speaker 1: so the rents that you collect each month stays in
44:58
Speaker 1: your pocket. But the important thing is that you're providing
45:03
Speaker 1: life changing opportunities. Life changing. I mean, I was speaking
45:07
Speaker 1: to one of my tenants last week. Just by the
45:09
Speaker 1: fact that she moved into one of my properties, two
45:12
Speaker 1: of her kids have got four point oh g p
45:15
Speaker 1: a s. They're going to college, four scholarships. Uh. This
45:18
Speaker 1: would not have happened if they weren't in a better area. Uh,
45:23
Speaker 1: this wasn't have happened if those opportunities to present themselves
45:26
Speaker 1: to you. So I mean that's really the other side
45:29
Speaker 1: of the things. You can make money, but also you
45:31
Speaker 1: can do good and and that's what you stated in
45:37
Speaker 1: your early you abission is to change lives, provide opportunities
45:40
Speaker 1: for low income people to live in safer neighborhoods and
45:43
Speaker 1: have access to resources and batter education. That's what always
45:46
Speaker 1: angers me about racism, because racism acts like if it
45:50
Speaker 1: makes it seem like people who don't have, or people
45:52
Speaker 1: of color who don't have, want to steal, want to
45:55
Speaker 1: sell drugs, want to bring down the value of neighborhood
45:59
Speaker 1: because they move into that neighborhood. And that's really, like
46:01
Speaker 1: you say, a horrible stereotype that you have to deal
46:05
Speaker 1: with when you're meeting people who just want the same
46:07
Speaker 1: value and the same opportunity exactly exactly, I mean, I
46:12
Speaker 1: mean the larger context is, at least in Washington, d C.
46:16
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's the same thing where you are and
46:19
Speaker 1: many of your listeners are neighborhoods are being transformed, okay,
46:23
Speaker 1: being changed, Okay through gentrification. Now that's just the reality,
46:28
Speaker 1: at least in Washington, d c C. It's just rampant
46:31
Speaker 1: the neighborhoods where many years ago you say, who the
46:34
Speaker 1: hell want to live there? Now you can't get there,
46:36
Speaker 1: you can't get in. It's changed. Uh. For example, when
46:40
Speaker 1: when you know one of the blocks where you lived
46:42
Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. When I was there, that block
46:46
Speaker 1: was a hundred percent black African American. Now that block
46:49
Speaker 1: is a hundred percent white. There's only one family on
46:54
Speaker 1: that block that's African American, and that is my tenant. Uh.
46:58
Speaker 1: If I didn't eat that home and provide that opportunity
47:02
Speaker 1: to that family, they wouldn't be there. So the idea
47:06
Speaker 1: is that you know, true, what we can do, you
47:10
Speaker 1: and I and simple we can mitigate some of the
47:13
Speaker 1: effects of gentrifications, just displacement. We understand these families, we
47:18
Speaker 1: know what they're trying to accomplish, and we can sort
47:20
Speaker 1: of have an insight and really understanding to give them
47:23
Speaker 1: a chance, to give them opportuances. And that's very true.
47:27
Speaker 1: You know, that's very true. Hopefully we'll be right back
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48:35
Speaker 1: I'm your host, Sean McDonald, and that's why I brought
48:38
Speaker 1: up this whole statement about you know, when when your
48:40
Speaker 1: upgrade the neighborhood or you upgrade house, than the taxes
48:44
Speaker 1: go up, and then that's what the people who live
48:46
Speaker 1: in that sometimes have to move out. Or then your
48:49
Speaker 1: situation that you was explaining about the same thing happened
48:52
Speaker 1: in Harlem. You go to HALLM right now, first moved
48:54
Speaker 1: to New York. You couldn't catch a cab to HALLO.
48:57
Speaker 1: Now you walk the hall of it two o'clock and
48:59
Speaker 1: more and the white peop walking around with their dogs,
49:01
Speaker 1: you know, street, and that's that's no joke. And it's
49:05
Speaker 1: like okay, this is like okay, you know, you go
49:08
Speaker 1: other than other than Apollo Theater, HALLM is pretty much
49:12
Speaker 1: white up there. You know. People arguing that case with me,
49:14
Speaker 1: But go up there and hang out because I know,
49:16
Speaker 1: I lived in New York and New York and eight eight.
49:19
Speaker 1: I moved back there in two thousand five, and it
49:22
Speaker 1: was just two different neighborhoods. But along the way I
49:24
Speaker 1: would always go up there, either to perform or the
49:27
Speaker 1: visitor television show pictures or visit people that I know.
49:30
Speaker 1: And you see these communities changed it or one minority
49:35
Speaker 1: black now they can't even live in the neighborhood that
49:38
Speaker 1: they were born in. They can't even live in the
49:40
Speaker 1: neighborhoods that they grew up in because of the fact
49:42
Speaker 1: that the low income has been pushed out and been
49:45
Speaker 1: pushed out because value has all source the ability to
49:50
Speaker 1: have income to pay for it. So when I listened
49:52
Speaker 1: to you saying like black and low low income family
49:55
Speaker 1: lives do matter given an opportunity to live in high
49:58
Speaker 1: income gentrify areas, did you just mentioned they normally could
50:02
Speaker 1: never afford about your lastning recession proof formula? What is
50:06
Speaker 1: their recession proof formulive that you're talking about? Sure? The
50:10
Speaker 1: thing about some of these sort of like the Housing
50:14
Speaker 1: Choice Abouts program, the six Day program, it's it's a
50:16
Speaker 1: program whereby part of the rent is paid by the
50:21
Speaker 1: housing authority, the local housing authority, and the remainder is
50:24
Speaker 1: paid by the tent Okay so um. So for instance,
50:28
Speaker 1: I'll just give it an example. If the rent for
50:31
Speaker 1: this property is a thousand dollars for example, which is
50:33
Speaker 1: not the case in New York, is not the case
50:35
Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. But just for obviously easy numbers,
50:38
Speaker 1: if the rent is a thousand dollars to your home,
50:41
Speaker 1: then you may decide, well, the housing authority may pay
50:44
Speaker 1: let's say six hundreds of that thousand, and the tenants
50:48
Speaker 1: portion maybe four hundreds. And the tennants portion is based
50:51
Speaker 1: on their income. So the more money they made, the
50:53
Speaker 1: more that they pay. The less money they made, the
50:55
Speaker 1: less that they pay. Okay, so let's just take a
50:57
Speaker 1: simple scenario. A thousand dollar rent six under this take
51:00
Speaker 1: by the housing authority and four hundred dollars is paid
51:03
Speaker 1: by the tenant. The reason why it's the recession proofs
51:06
Speaker 1: is that if the tenant loses their income, loses their job,
51:10
Speaker 1: or whatever it is, then typically what they will happen
51:12
Speaker 1: is that they'll go to the housing authority and their
51:15
Speaker 1: portion will go down because their income has gone down,
51:18
Speaker 1: so it may go from four hundred to two hundred
51:21
Speaker 1: and uh and therefore the housing authority picks up the difference,
51:25
Speaker 1: so their portion will go from six hundred to eight hundreds.
51:28
Speaker 1: The thousand dollars are still the same, it's just that
51:31
Speaker 1: the breakdown of that thousand dollar will will will change.
51:35
Speaker 1: So in a in a recession, when people lose their income,
51:42
Speaker 1: or people who have their house cut, hours cut, and
51:44
Speaker 1: things like that, what happens is that they may not
51:46
Speaker 1: be able to pay you, and therefore you will lose
51:49
Speaker 1: that whole a thousand dollars. Okay, under that, if I
51:53
Speaker 1: was rented to uh, let's say a market rental, if
51:55
Speaker 1: they lost their job or lost their hours, they may
51:57
Speaker 1: not be able to take a thousand dollars. But with
51:59
Speaker 1: the house Authority tenants, it's actually eight tenants, that portion
52:03
Speaker 1: will go from four hundred two hundred, So I will
52:06
Speaker 1: still get the eight hundred from the housing authority and
52:11
Speaker 1: the tenants responsible for the two hundred. So you are
52:15
Speaker 1: essentially going to get most of your rent. It's not
52:18
Speaker 1: all of your rent regards of the economic cycle that
52:21
Speaker 1: you're in. And that's basically what you're saying is that
52:25
Speaker 1: these rental rented, the individually rental kind of like I
52:29
Speaker 1: almost have a built in and government plan that allows
52:32
Speaker 1: you to get your rent paid a portion of it
52:34
Speaker 1: paid at least, no matter what's going on, no matter
52:37
Speaker 1: they're doing the pandemic, no matter doing the reception, you
52:40
Speaker 1: pretty much can can can still afloat with the tenant
52:44
Speaker 1: that you have. Versus a person who may get laid
52:46
Speaker 1: off from a job, a person who may get fired,
52:48
Speaker 1: may get terminated, may do the illness, and they have
52:52
Speaker 1: no income than the rent that you can potentially get
52:55
Speaker 1: in that person is zero. Correct, Yes, yeah, So I
52:58
Speaker 1: have some tenants who the ranks of zero, and some
53:01
Speaker 1: of them are hundred dollars, two hundred dollars or whatever
53:03
Speaker 1: it is. So you know that their portion again is
53:06
Speaker 1: based on the income that they make. But the key
53:08
Speaker 1: though is that these are nice homes in nice areas.
53:12
Speaker 1: These families are they want to stay there, uh, and
53:16
Speaker 1: so they're in no rush to leave. And uh, you know,
53:21
Speaker 1: in this business, you know, I can't really stress this.
53:26
Speaker 1: Certain neighborhoods, certain areas, certain cities, certain geographic geographers. Over time,
53:32
Speaker 1: the prices of houses go up. And you know, as
53:36
Speaker 1: you said in New York Atlanta, so over time the
53:39
Speaker 1: houses go up. Therefore, if you can buy this house
53:41
Speaker 1: or this asset and keep it for a long time,
53:45
Speaker 1: then the price will go up. And that's that's a
53:47
Speaker 1: that's wealth, that's legacy, that's income, that's cash flow that
53:52
Speaker 1: you can obviously leave as a legacy to your family
53:54
Speaker 1: and your children, and you know, and you can pass on.
54:00
Speaker 1: My father should tell me they're not gonna make any
54:02
Speaker 1: more land once you buy that land then it's something
54:05
Speaker 1: that you can own and uh and build on and
54:07
Speaker 1: uh and like you say, a legacy part of it.
54:10
Speaker 1: But in Joe, you formed this, the Legacy Investment Network.
54:13
Speaker 1: It's a free community membership platform and basically everybody is
54:17
Speaker 1: comprised of nearly one thousand investors and industry professionals who
54:21
Speaker 1: are access to your expertise. So tell us about the
54:24
Speaker 1: Legacy Investment Network they're formed that you formed in twenty Joseph. Yeah,
54:29
Speaker 1: I mean, from my perspective, the pie is big enough everybody. Okay, Uh,
54:35
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if Rashaan does what I do. It
54:37
Speaker 1: doesn't matter if you know, the pie is enough for everybody.
54:41
Speaker 1: And so what I realized, you know, is that whenever, whenever,
54:45
Speaker 1: whenever I have a house for rents, I'm getting in
54:48
Speaker 1: twelve thirteen fourteen applications. So I'm turning down ten twelve
54:53
Speaker 1: thirteen people families, families who are yearning for the opportunities.
54:58
Speaker 1: So I cannot meet the needs. It's just not possible. Uh,
55:02
Speaker 1: it's not possible. So therefore, you know, my whole idea
55:06
Speaker 1: is what can I do to encourage other people to
55:08
Speaker 1: replicate what I'm doing? Uh? So that's The essential to
55:12
Speaker 1: the genesis of the network is that I try to
55:15
Speaker 1: help people, educate people, share with them what I'm doing,
55:18
Speaker 1: giving them the opportunity to see what I'm doing, and
55:21
Speaker 1: hopefully give them the inspiration and encouragement to replicate what
55:24
Speaker 1: I'm doing. And that's essentially what it is. Because you
55:29
Speaker 1: cannot meet the need needs which on your listeners, cannot
55:32
Speaker 1: meet the need. The need is too great and we
55:36
Speaker 1: need more people to do this because the analogy is,
55:41
Speaker 1: I see this is like the train is leaving the station.
55:46
Speaker 1: We can sit on the station and curve and sort
55:48
Speaker 1: of watch the train move leave and complain that the
55:52
Speaker 1: train is left, or we can get onto that train
55:55
Speaker 1: and be a you know, participant on that journey. So
55:59
Speaker 1: my job, I think what I can do is to
56:01
Speaker 1: help people get onto that train. Uh. And that's the
56:05
Speaker 1: essentially what the Letting Vegacin network does. Well. You know
56:08
Speaker 1: the interesting thing about it. When I look at your
56:11
Speaker 1: academic background electric engineering n b A PhD. Education is
56:16
Speaker 1: important to you and so because that that tells me
56:20
Speaker 1: that you want other people have that same opportunity to
56:22
Speaker 1: educate themselves. So when you're telling your story, what do
56:25
Speaker 1: you want people to remember about you, Joseph, what this is?
56:32
Speaker 1: This is a good one good question. I don't mean
56:37
Speaker 1: because I didn't made the stuff, you know, but just
56:42
Speaker 1: but reason I say that, let me just back up
56:44
Speaker 1: a little bit. I don't tell you why, because when
56:46
Speaker 1: when when I look at a person like you, who
56:48
Speaker 1: you know you come when you come over to this
56:50
Speaker 1: country from from England Gannabo okay, thirty years ago, and
56:55
Speaker 1: you immediately understand, you see the opportunity, but you're not
56:58
Speaker 1: afraid to investigate the door. Now, like you told me earlier,
57:02
Speaker 1: you said, rashand I knew nothing about real estate, but
57:05
Speaker 1: now you're considered a real estate a master in real
57:08
Speaker 1: estate investment. You consider that, So I mean that you
57:11
Speaker 1: made yourself an expert. But then your acacymic training is
57:15
Speaker 1: in electrical engineering, okay, and then you got the NBA
57:19
Speaker 1: and then information systems your PhD. So none of these
57:22
Speaker 1: things have to do with real estate other than the
57:24
Speaker 1: fact that you've taken an opportunity as an entrepreneur and
57:29
Speaker 1: and mastered it. And so when I asked you, what
57:31
Speaker 1: do you what do you want people remembered by you?
57:35
Speaker 1: That's the question that I need to learn answer. No, No, no,
57:39
Speaker 1: let let me let me ask it this way. I
57:43
Speaker 1: think I was thinking to my mom, okay, about a
57:46
Speaker 1: few years ago, she's in England, and she was telling me,
57:51
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I'm doing. She said, what are
57:52
Speaker 1: you going to stop? Why? Why are you doing this?
57:54
Speaker 1: When is there nothing off? I mean, you know, it's
57:56
Speaker 1: just a typical moment. Uh, She's go along, Why are
58:00
Speaker 1: you doing this? When is he enough enough? Haven't you
58:02
Speaker 1: got enough houses? Stop? You know? And so on? And
58:06
Speaker 1: I was just thinking about that because it's a legitimate
58:09
Speaker 1: question when is enough enough? You know, when do you
58:12
Speaker 1: say it's enough? Sean you've accomplished what you need to do? Um,
58:17
Speaker 1: you know, you don't what you can? When is it
58:18
Speaker 1: enough enough? And so I realized that what I'm doing
58:24
Speaker 1: essentially is providing opportunities for other families. I'm providing opportunities,
58:30
Speaker 1: hopefully by sharing knowledge to other investors who can get onto,
58:34
Speaker 1: you know, do what I do. So if I stop
58:37
Speaker 1: doing what I'm doing, then what about those ten, twelve,
58:40
Speaker 1: thirteen tenants who I have to turn down where they're
58:44
Speaker 1: going to live and who's going to provide them quality housing,
58:49
Speaker 1: quality areas? Who's going to do what I'm doing you
58:51
Speaker 1: know who's gonna do it? You know so so so
58:55
Speaker 1: the legacy essentially is hopefully, yes, you can make money,
59:00
Speaker 1: but also you can do good. You can provide um.
59:03
Speaker 1: You can be remembered as a person who's provided the
59:06
Speaker 1: quality housing, you created the opportunities for families, and you
59:09
Speaker 1: help other other investors, other individuals social African American community
59:14
Speaker 1: build wealth and have a legacy, we say, can test
59:17
Speaker 1: onto future generations because if we don't do this, these
59:22
Speaker 1: neighborhoods are changing and we are being left behind. We
59:27
Speaker 1: have no say in what's going on in our communities.
59:31
Speaker 1: Zero say, we've got to own some of these assets.
59:33
Speaker 1: We've got to own some of these communities. We've got
59:34
Speaker 1: to own it, because if you don't own it, you're
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Speaker 1: at the mercy of somebody else, right, you know they
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Speaker 1: they When I your mom respond question, it was very
59:47
Speaker 1: natural with question because she's thinking from an investment, from
59:50
Speaker 1: an economic standpoint, but she's she's she's born to this
59:55
Speaker 1: life an incredible young man who is more than about money.
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Speaker 1: You're by changing lives and you're about seeing you when
1:00:02
Speaker 1: you can wake up the next day. This is a
1:00:04
Speaker 1: question that if she ever asked you that question, just
1:00:06
Speaker 1: just a response I would give to your mom. I
1:00:08
Speaker 1: was your mom. When when I wake up the next
1:00:11
Speaker 1: day and I don't have to worry about people not
1:00:14
Speaker 1: equally getting the same opportunity to everybody else in this country,
1:00:17
Speaker 1: when they when people are feel that their child can
1:00:20
Speaker 1: get equally educated and live in the neighborhood that's comfortable
1:00:23
Speaker 1: to them, when they don't have to worry about being
1:00:27
Speaker 1: rejected because of the color of their skin, then that
1:00:31
Speaker 1: will be enough, will be enough their mom. But right
1:00:34
Speaker 1: now it's not enough. And people like you, Joseph Asamore,
1:00:38
Speaker 1: are important to the chain of opportunity for all of
1:00:41
Speaker 1: us because I would tell people, you know, you know,
1:00:43
Speaker 1: if you give me a break, I'm a person of color,
1:00:45
Speaker 1: I guess what you're gonna win too. That means that
1:00:48
Speaker 1: it means that I'm I'm pursuing the same dream, I'm
1:00:50
Speaker 1: paying the same taxes, I'm going to work, and I'm
1:00:52
Speaker 1: putting forth the same effort that you want to put
1:00:54
Speaker 1: to make this country great. If we make this country
1:00:56
Speaker 1: great together, then we all win. And that is what
1:00:59
Speaker 1: you are trying to accomplish, and you are accomplishing I
1:01:02
Speaker 1: should put the word try in it. Okay, you are
1:01:04
Speaker 1: accomplishing that. And I'm a teammate too, and that's why
1:01:07
Speaker 1: I wanted to bring you on the show. Joseph, that's all.
1:01:10
Speaker 1: That's all. Yeah, that's let's to what I do. Okay.
1:01:14
Speaker 1: In additions, you know, what I realized is that there
1:01:17
Speaker 1: are two assets in all in what I do. That's
1:01:19
Speaker 1: the real estate asset. But the other asset, which is
1:01:22
Speaker 1: a human asset of the family. Okay, it's a very
1:01:25
Speaker 1: very very important asset in this equation because without them
1:01:29
Speaker 1: you can't do this business. A lot of landlords sale
1:01:33
Speaker 1: to understand that. So what I do is I realized
1:01:36
Speaker 1: that I've got to have happy tenants. And all my tenants,
1:01:40
Speaker 1: every mother say, we're given boupets of flowers. Uh, every Christmas,
1:01:44
Speaker 1: we give them Christmas presents. If the kids get all
1:01:47
Speaker 1: ways at school, I give them fifty dollar gift certificates.
1:01:50
Speaker 1: And believe it or not, we give our tenants free vacations. Wow,
1:01:57
Speaker 1: that's I love. My tellors like of this business. They're
1:02:01
Speaker 1: good families out here, despite the stereotypes. They're just yearning
1:02:04
Speaker 1: for somebody to give him an opportunity in the chance.
1:02:07
Speaker 1: And um so there are two sides to this thing.
1:02:10
Speaker 1: Is that you can do good, but also you can
1:02:13
Speaker 1: make money. Uh. But more important, I said, you can
1:02:16
Speaker 1: leave a legacy and uh to your children, your family,
1:02:21
Speaker 1: after your community. Well, my friend, UM, thank you for
1:02:25
Speaker 1: coming on the show. I think I told you early
1:02:27
Speaker 1: off air. I'm building a new studio, have a I'm
1:02:29
Speaker 1: gonna have a giant video wall because all my interviews
1:02:32
Speaker 1: are gonna be by video starting the next month. So
1:02:36
Speaker 1: in about the December, says you out there passing that
1:02:38
Speaker 1: Christmas presents to your lef I'm your renners. I wanted
1:02:42
Speaker 1: to bring bring it back on the show, and maybe
1:02:45
Speaker 1: you bring a tenue to you know, we zoom them
1:02:47
Speaker 1: into the call. How about that? How about love we
1:02:50
Speaker 1: invite a couple of your tenants on and they'll talk
1:02:52
Speaker 1: about the experience man, because you know that's what I
1:02:55
Speaker 1: want to do. I want to tell your story, man,
1:02:56
Speaker 1: and your story. This is just an introduction into your story.
1:02:58
Speaker 1: But let's let's purely act a little bit more in
1:03:00
Speaker 1: the month of December and doing a zoom call, bringing
1:03:03
Speaker 1: a couple of more your tenants and uh, just talk
1:03:05
Speaker 1: about how you've changed your life. Thank you for coming
1:03:08
Speaker 1: on the show. Yeah, if anybody can connect to me.
1:03:10
Speaker 1: I do have a Wealth Wednesdays every Wednesday after my
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1:03:24
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1:03:27
Speaker 1: and so they can cheot in and I talked about
1:03:29
Speaker 1: different subjects or pertains to building wealth and generations and
1:03:34
Speaker 1: so forth. So check me out. Well. The good thing
1:03:37
Speaker 1: about that is my newsletter goes out on Wednesdays morning
1:03:40
Speaker 1: at nine o'clock in the morning, and so I put
1:03:43
Speaker 1: that in my newsletter. I get with my team to
1:03:44
Speaker 1: get a banner and get h some links so we
1:03:47
Speaker 1: can promote it. Okay, and also you might see it
1:03:50
Speaker 1: familiar face. I might drop in and watch you how
1:03:52
Speaker 1: about that? Hey, hey, hey, hey Rochane. I also, I
1:03:58
Speaker 1: don't know if you've heard this slaphone called a pocket
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Speaker 1: know social media platform. I do have a program on
1:04:06
Speaker 1: that every other Friday, and it's a natural platform. So
1:04:10
Speaker 1: I was welcome the opportunity to maybe one day if
1:04:13
Speaker 1: you're not well I would say based on what you do, man,
1:04:18
Speaker 1: I make time. Seriously, what you're doing. I love you, dude,
1:04:22
Speaker 1: because you're doing things that I've been doing since I
1:04:24
Speaker 1: was eighteen, and I didn't realize what I was doing
1:04:26
Speaker 1: with just natural to me. And you're doing things in
1:04:28
Speaker 1: a natural to you and and you're not and you're
1:04:31
Speaker 1: not embarrassed by that. You say, Man, I'm making money,
1:04:33
Speaker 1: but I'm also changing lives. I'm also leaving legacy. I'm
1:04:36
Speaker 1: also understanding that you could do this too. Also, there's
1:04:38
Speaker 1: room for other people. I want other people to come in,
1:04:41
Speaker 1: because that's what more people means, more people lives are
1:04:44
Speaker 1: changed by the same effort, the same mission statement. So
1:04:47
Speaker 1: that's what you tell my staff when you need me.
1:04:49
Speaker 1: You till me those banners so I can promote you
1:04:51
Speaker 1: win this show and Joseph, you'd be back on my
1:04:54
Speaker 1: show decemb with a couple of your tenants. Okay, yes, sir,
1:04:57
Speaker 1: thank you a wonderful thank you again, and I can
1:05:03
Speaker 1: now die in peace. All right. I appreciate your brother.
1:05:08
Speaker 1: I appreciate your brother. You stay stay okay, my next kiss.
1:05:13
Speaker 1: Ashley Woods is an author, aspiring motivational teacher, and mentor.
1:05:17
Speaker 1: Ashley is a veteran of the United States Army and
1:05:19
Speaker 1: National Guard Reserve. She served for five years from two
1:05:22
Speaker 1: thousand two to two thousand seven. Diagnosed with PTSD in twelve,
1:05:27
Speaker 1: Ashley has faced many obstacles in their life, including multiple
1:05:31
Speaker 1: breakdowns and two suicide attempts. Equipped with an effective management
1:05:35
Speaker 1: technique for her PTSD, Actually now dedicates her time as
1:05:38
Speaker 1: a mental illness advocate, supporting millions of people that battle
1:05:42
Speaker 1: with the effects of various mental disorders every day and
1:05:45
Speaker 1: inspiring and encouraging others to overcome and thrive. Actually is
1:05:49
Speaker 1: living proof that your illness does not have to define
1:05:51
Speaker 1: your path in life. She's the shore to talk about
1:05:54
Speaker 1: the overcoming the odds. Please welcome to Money Making Conversations
1:05:58
Speaker 1: Ashley Woods. Hello, Hello, thank you for having me. First
1:06:03
Speaker 1: of all, you know to explain to me what exactly
1:06:06
Speaker 1: is p t s D. Okay, PTSD is cos traumatic
1:06:11
Speaker 1: stress dis order, and a lot of people get to
1:06:15
Speaker 1: misconstrued and think that it's military driven and it's not
1:06:19
Speaker 1: be anything that happened UM in your life that calls
1:06:25
Speaker 1: UM trauma and it makes you and you can have
1:06:29
Speaker 1: triggers behind put you on the depressed state of mind.
1:06:34
Speaker 1: And it's it's it's different um depending on the person.
1:06:39
Speaker 1: So how it might affect me, Like with me, one
1:06:43
Speaker 1: of my triggers is bad. Why back is the trigger
1:06:47
Speaker 1: for me because that's what my sister had tried to
1:06:51
Speaker 1: use to kill me when I was a little, when
1:06:53
Speaker 1: I was six years over, So I have it that,
1:06:56
Speaker 1: like you know, I have a thing with that. So
1:07:00
Speaker 1: system of it's triggered by a terrifying event. So it
1:07:04
Speaker 1: could be somebody who got rape molested, assaulted. M are
1:07:09
Speaker 1: they seeing somebody in the house, you know, get abused.
1:07:14
Speaker 1: It's different layers. Whatever is traumatic to that person, you
1:07:18
Speaker 1: can trigger off different emotions that cause people to go
1:07:21
Speaker 1: in and out of slumps and suffer severe anxiety, nightmare, nightmares.
1:07:27
Speaker 1: And also it just it takes over your mind. Right,
1:07:30
Speaker 1: the first time I became aware or heard the term
1:07:32
Speaker 1: PTSD was Vietnam veterans. And so that's why you know,
1:07:37
Speaker 1: I guess you said. Rashaun is not just tied to military.
1:07:40
Speaker 1: It's tied to everyday life. It's tied to dramatic physical, mental,
1:07:44
Speaker 1: catastrophic engagements in your life that can cause you to
1:07:47
Speaker 1: be depressed, and that it can lead to you know, relationships,
1:07:52
Speaker 1: running relationships to potentially leading you to commit suicide, causing
1:07:56
Speaker 1: you stress at your job and not functioning properly. That's
1:07:59
Speaker 1: what pt s D can do. And I brought you
1:08:01
Speaker 1: on the show just like let people know that it
1:08:04
Speaker 1: is not tied to one lane of opportunity that you
1:08:08
Speaker 1: can become a victim of PTSD. Now, how will you diagnosed? Because,
1:08:12
Speaker 1: like I said, you served in the military, and I'm
1:08:15
Speaker 1: not trying to put up two and two together, but
1:08:17
Speaker 1: you United States Army and National Guard Reserve. Now what's
1:08:21
Speaker 1: the difference between the two. You have the United States
1:08:23
Speaker 1: Army and National Guard Reserve. Please tell us the difference
1:08:26
Speaker 1: between the two the National Guard Reserve, that's not full
1:08:30
Speaker 1: time Army. So I was able when I first founded
1:08:32
Speaker 1: up because I was a little scared of um being
1:08:36
Speaker 1: way from home. So it was like I go to
1:08:38
Speaker 1: BA training. Then I come back to a station in Philadelphia,
1:08:42
Speaker 1: which mines was on Southampton Road up the boulevard at
1:08:48
Speaker 1: maintenance company. So I did weekend drills and then two
1:08:51
Speaker 1: weeks out of the year I did drills. We're basically
1:08:54
Speaker 1: gonna standby in case anything happens, but in between times
1:08:59
Speaker 1: we trained, we still retool, We still you know, do
1:09:03
Speaker 1: our PT tests and that everything. Now I got tired
1:09:07
Speaker 1: of that. I didn't feel like I was maximizing, um
1:09:11
Speaker 1: my strength. So I wanted to go active. But when
1:09:14
Speaker 1: I'm in a rugby United States Active Army, I'm full time.
1:09:17
Speaker 1: It's not everyday life. And now I'm stationed on a
1:09:20
Speaker 1: military installation and um, you know, I'm tied to a
1:09:23
Speaker 1: different And I was stationed at Fort Benning in Columbus, UM,
1:09:27
Speaker 1: Georgia before I had to get out due to medical
1:09:32
Speaker 1: so I'm I'm a better you know, I'm a disabled veteran.
1:09:36
Speaker 1: They found out I had heart conditions, so I had
1:09:39
Speaker 1: to get out. But my diagnosis came probably five years
1:09:45
Speaker 1: after I got out, because I got out in two
1:09:47
Speaker 1: thousand and seven. And once I started going therapy and counseling,
1:09:55
Speaker 1: they showed that I'm not trying to start it when
1:09:57
Speaker 1: I was six years and to go to the military
1:10:01
Speaker 1: to run from my problems within my household, and it
1:10:04
Speaker 1: kind of added to my problems. And that's why I
1:10:07
Speaker 1: try to stress the people. Sometimes we think that you know,
1:10:11
Speaker 1: changing the city of state that you're in, or you know,
1:10:15
Speaker 1: trying to shut off your your past without doing with it,
1:10:18
Speaker 1: it's going to make life better and it it didn't
1:10:20
Speaker 1: for me. So it actually added onto all the issues
1:10:25
Speaker 1: that I had because I dealt with challenges in the military,
1:10:28
Speaker 1: you know, being a female, being a mechanic. Um, we
1:10:33
Speaker 1: still went through the certain things of you know, racism,
1:10:37
Speaker 1: equality and all that things of that nature. You wouldn't
1:10:39
Speaker 1: think that you would go through stuff like that, but
1:10:43
Speaker 1: it happens everywhere. Absolutely absolutely so. Now you're in the military. Uh,
1:10:48
Speaker 1: you're an author and entrepreneur. Did anything that you did
1:10:52
Speaker 1: the military? Uh? What impact did it have on you
1:10:55
Speaker 1: as an author? What impact did it have on you
1:10:57
Speaker 1: as an entrepreneur? Um? The military impacts foam. I'm always
1:11:04
Speaker 1: grateful for the military because it opened my eyes to
1:11:07
Speaker 1: not only see different parts of the world, but just
1:11:10
Speaker 1: understanding people different aspects of their life, different background, ship
1:11:14
Speaker 1: and nationality. Um. Right, and became a coper medicanism because
1:11:20
Speaker 1: I wasn't good at communicating my feelings, like when I
1:11:23
Speaker 1: try to keep my feelings when I was younger to
1:11:26
Speaker 1: my parents when bad things were happening to me. It
1:11:30
Speaker 1: fell on deaf ear because in those times, we didn't
1:11:33
Speaker 1: talk about mental health. So they just swept things under
1:11:36
Speaker 1: the rugs. So writing became the only way I can
1:11:41
Speaker 1: live out how I felt because I would just get angry,
1:11:44
Speaker 1: I get watery, and I don't feel like, you know,
1:11:47
Speaker 1: I can relay my message verbally, so right and became
1:11:52
Speaker 1: the way I was able to live off some scene.
1:11:55
Speaker 1: And I've always been good at writing and putting together things.
1:11:59
Speaker 1: But the book thing, I don't know how. It came about.
1:12:02
Speaker 1: When I was a contractor and I was out Afghanistan. Uh,
1:12:08
Speaker 1: I was like ro nervous because we were getting bombed about,
1:12:12
Speaker 1: and I just I started writing. And that's when my
1:12:15
Speaker 1: first book, Alphabet Dreams, came about, and I voted it
1:12:19
Speaker 1: and I started liking it, and I just kept going. Right,
1:12:24
Speaker 1: you found a passion. You found your passion. I found
1:12:27
Speaker 1: your gift because, like I said in the in the
1:12:29
Speaker 1: Moment of Fear, you you were able to become creative
1:12:33
Speaker 1: and that became a positive thing for you. I'm talking
1:12:36
Speaker 1: to Ashley Wood. She's an author, aspiring, motivational teacher, and
1:12:39
Speaker 1: a mentor to many people. She served uh United States
1:12:43
Speaker 1: Army and their National Guard Reserve from two thousand to
1:12:46
Speaker 1: two thousand seven. She was diagnosed with PTSD in twelve
1:12:50
Speaker 1: and right off the box, she just let us know.
1:12:52
Speaker 1: PTSD is not a military problem. It's a problem that
1:12:56
Speaker 1: whenever you're involved in anything traumatic, whether it can be
1:12:59
Speaker 1: an injury, peaking accident, it could be a moment in
1:13:02
Speaker 1: in your childhood that you still flashback with something appears
1:13:05
Speaker 1: that that make a negative reaction in your life. So
1:13:08
Speaker 1: defining could be child abuse, could be molestation, could be
1:13:12
Speaker 1: a rape, can be anything that really just triggers you
1:13:16
Speaker 1: into a very negative state immediately. That's what PTSD can
1:13:20
Speaker 1: do you. It just throws you. It doesn't have to
1:13:22
Speaker 1: be a physical force on you. It's a mental challenge
1:13:25
Speaker 1: to your mental psyche. Can paralyze people, can emotionally traumatize people,
1:13:31
Speaker 1: can make them breakdown, and can make them suicide suicidal.
1:13:35
Speaker 1: When you go to that state of suicide, what what
1:13:38
Speaker 1: what takes a person there? And I'm not trying to
1:13:41
Speaker 1: be uh insensitive when I say that, I'm just saying,
1:13:44
Speaker 1: but it has to be a degree of helplessness or
1:13:48
Speaker 1: hopelessness to go to a state of considering suicide. Correct. Actually, yeah,
1:13:55
Speaker 1: and there is different um for myself. Um, I did
1:14:03
Speaker 1: so hopelessly. I didn't feel like, I basically feel like
1:14:07
Speaker 1: how these young children when they commit suicide and do
1:14:10
Speaker 1: things they kind of feel like for me, I think
1:14:14
Speaker 1: the kids feel like there's no light at the end
1:14:16
Speaker 1: of the tunnel. They can't Then they're getting bullied to
1:14:19
Speaker 1: school and they're like in force for fifth pray and
1:14:22
Speaker 1: they're thinking, like, I gotta go through how many years
1:14:25
Speaker 1: it is? Is this ever going to stop? I want
1:14:27
Speaker 1: to end them? And so in my life, I came
1:14:30
Speaker 1: to a night where I just thought that it's not
1:14:33
Speaker 1: gonna get more butter, I can't escape these soon. Because
1:14:36
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I was so ashamed to admit that
1:14:39
Speaker 1: I had, you know, some type of mental illness issues
1:14:43
Speaker 1: that I didn't have a way of coping with it.
1:14:47
Speaker 1: And so because I didn't know how to cope and
1:14:49
Speaker 1: I didn't try to get treatment, I was trying to
1:14:51
Speaker 1: hide it when all emotions came in once and I
1:14:55
Speaker 1: just didn't know how to handle things across the board.
1:14:57
Speaker 1: I did so hope that I felt like because a
1:15:00
Speaker 1: lot of pain, that trauma came from the hands of
1:15:02
Speaker 1: my own parents, and you know, and a lot it
1:15:06
Speaker 1: wasn't it wasn't physical abuse, it was just you know,
1:15:09
Speaker 1: mental you know neglect not hearing me when I give
1:15:12
Speaker 1: you that, Hey, I am a cousin uncle that keeps
1:15:16
Speaker 1: trying to have sex with me. I'm only twelve years old,
1:15:18
Speaker 1: and I'm constantly I'm constantly having to be around this
1:15:22
Speaker 1: person that's trying to do bad things to me, and
1:15:26
Speaker 1: they pushed uscle when I got to a point where
1:15:29
Speaker 1: I just I just felt like it would be better
1:15:34
Speaker 1: if I'm not here, because me being here it seems
1:15:37
Speaker 1: like I'm a burden, I'm a problem. I can't do
1:15:40
Speaker 1: good enough. And I just didn't love myself enough to
1:15:43
Speaker 1: understand that even if certain people didn't value me being
1:15:47
Speaker 1: here or I didn't understand my words, that somebody else
1:15:51
Speaker 1: out here would. And so thank god I started getting
1:15:55
Speaker 1: treatment and I was unsuccessful in that suicide attempt because
1:15:59
Speaker 1: I know, you know, what I might not get from
1:16:01
Speaker 1: somebody else, I don't get from another person. And that's
1:16:04
Speaker 1: the thing people from around us is who you surround
1:16:07
Speaker 1: yourself with, because some people might not get you, and
1:16:09
Speaker 1: they might be in their very own homes that won't
1:16:12
Speaker 1: get you, but they don't mean give up. There's other
1:16:15
Speaker 1: people out there. They go through the same problem, even worse,
1:16:19
Speaker 1: and that you can lean on to. And so once
1:16:22
Speaker 1: I just started just going to counseling and therapy, I
1:16:27
Speaker 1: got better and understanding that something don't work out my way,
1:16:30
Speaker 1: or I'm feeling this emotion, how to handle it differently
1:16:35
Speaker 1: so I won't get into that bad space. Well, they're
1:16:37
Speaker 1: bad and I'm gonna just tell you I've been in
1:16:39
Speaker 1: that bad state, you know, because of the fact that
1:16:43
Speaker 1: there is a I'm in a high pressure business. I'm
1:16:47
Speaker 1: always expected, uh not to fail because people depend on me,
1:16:51
Speaker 1: and that can take you into that state of being
1:16:54
Speaker 1: boxed in because you don't know who to turn to
1:16:56
Speaker 1: sometimes because you don't admit you don't want to admit
1:16:58
Speaker 1: what you don't know. Because time that can be considered
1:17:01
Speaker 1: a sign of weakness, and it can be people. People
1:17:04
Speaker 1: can start doubting you, especially when you consider the leader
1:17:07
Speaker 1: and the responsibility. Being a leader can be very lonely
1:17:10
Speaker 1: a lot of times, and because a lot of times
1:17:12
Speaker 1: you have to make decisions based on for people's expect
1:17:15
Speaker 1: of you. And when I hear you talking like my
1:17:18
Speaker 1: what calms me? All? My property? I bought a property
1:17:21
Speaker 1: and had a little lake and back and actually it's
1:17:24
Speaker 1: that's the rippling of the water calms me, that brings
1:17:28
Speaker 1: my whole personality down, and so it makes me relaxed.
1:17:33
Speaker 1: And so that's what you're talking about as well, finding
1:17:36
Speaker 1: places that can taking a positive state when you're suffering
1:17:40
Speaker 1: these dramatic rushes that can come crippling. Like I'm just
1:17:45
Speaker 1: telling you some of these is an attacks that can
1:17:47
Speaker 1: hit you. Some of people call them panic attacks, some
1:17:49
Speaker 1: people call them physical jar mental assaults. But they're all
1:17:53
Speaker 1: formulated from some basis of a drama that has happening,
1:17:57
Speaker 1: our trauma that has happened in your life, and now
1:18:00
Speaker 1: you're playing it out and you can't always control it.
1:18:03
Speaker 1: So that helps me from from going to the next
1:18:07
Speaker 1: level to be calm because I can always tell women
1:18:10
Speaker 1: when that moment is getting a little bit too big
1:18:13
Speaker 1: for me and I go, wow, okay, you know it's
1:18:15
Speaker 1: not watching another Marvel movie, is not watching uh food
1:18:20
Speaker 1: on the cooking channel. I just gotta go and let
1:18:22
Speaker 1: my mind just see simple things. How do how do you?
1:18:26
Speaker 1: How do you cope with it? Ashley? Um? I cope
1:18:31
Speaker 1: with being able to I'm I'm hit like when I'm
1:18:35
Speaker 1: doing them, being able to help other people help because
1:18:41
Speaker 1: I'm still struggling with certain bats. I don't want people
1:18:45
Speaker 1: to think I got it all together. I'm piecing it together.
1:18:48
Speaker 1: I'm doing better and I wake up just trying to
1:18:50
Speaker 1: win the day. Overall. I don't try to think too
1:18:54
Speaker 1: far ahead. I just try to win the day. But
1:18:56
Speaker 1: when I'm able to talk to people and people like yo,
1:18:59
Speaker 1: I needed to hear that that it makes me keep going.
1:19:03
Speaker 1: I didn't next that you're to be the face of
1:19:05
Speaker 1: the well. I just I'm just serving my purpose that
1:19:09
Speaker 1: God placed upon me. And he said, hey, listen, I
1:19:12
Speaker 1: think you got a voice and you've got a story
1:19:14
Speaker 1: that people are gonna listen to and they're gonna connect
1:19:16
Speaker 1: with and they're gonna respond to you, because sometimes people
1:19:19
Speaker 1: don't respond to people. They're just coming there with a
1:19:21
Speaker 1: suiting time say hey, you can do this, you can
1:19:24
Speaker 1: turn out like me. And I'm just showing people listen,
1:19:27
Speaker 1: I'm where you're at. I might be doing a little
1:19:29
Speaker 1: better than you might be doing, but let me get
1:19:31
Speaker 1: you there, and what you do, what you're doing, you
1:19:34
Speaker 1: might help me get to other places myself. So I'm
1:19:36
Speaker 1: just bringing I just want to bring people along on
1:19:38
Speaker 1: my journey and listen to all help each other out.
1:19:41
Speaker 1: So me being able to talk to you and your
1:19:44
Speaker 1: listeners might somebody might be feel the same way. I'm
1:19:49
Speaker 1: doing my job and it's helping me when I help
1:19:51
Speaker 1: other people, because I always used to think that I
1:19:53
Speaker 1: was along and now I don't think that no more right,
1:19:57
Speaker 1: And I agree with you. I'm just letting you know
1:19:59
Speaker 1: that that from a standpoint of I'm one of these people,
1:20:02
Speaker 1: you know, my my, My triggers are tied to you know,
1:20:05
Speaker 1: people expectations. I guess, uh, not being able to show weakness.
1:20:09
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I'm just taking upon myself to say I
1:20:11
Speaker 1: can't show a weakness and I can properly show it
1:20:13
Speaker 1: and just everybody's cool with it. But I do know
1:20:16
Speaker 1: when you lead and you're at a high level, then
1:20:18
Speaker 1: people will look at you differently if you admit flaws,
1:20:22
Speaker 1: and they would once they started questioning you based on
1:20:25
Speaker 1: that flaw, then they could lead to other things. And
1:20:28
Speaker 1: so what gets me is like I want to just
1:20:30
Speaker 1: emphasize to you, if you ever come down to the
1:20:32
Speaker 1: Atlanta area, please, I'm gonna give you my number and
1:20:35
Speaker 1: come by my come by my backyard. Actually we were
1:20:38
Speaker 1: just sat out there and look at the water a
1:20:40
Speaker 1: little bit, and I got some real and rodd. I
1:20:43
Speaker 1: don't know if you've ever fished, you know when you
1:20:44
Speaker 1: catch the fishery throw it back in the water. So
1:20:47
Speaker 1: you know, it's just it's just it's just fun and relaxing.
1:20:50
Speaker 1: And I think that that's what I'm just offering to you,
1:20:53
Speaker 1: is that you know, these interviews are great, but just
1:20:57
Speaker 1: finding that moment where you can just contry roll it,
1:21:00
Speaker 1: because these interviews don't happen all the time. Like I said,
1:21:03
Speaker 1: I just know that if if it's if it's going
1:21:06
Speaker 1: left for me too much, I just walk in my backyard.
1:21:10
Speaker 1: The cable don't have to be working, and I don't
1:21:11
Speaker 1: have to have a I don't have to open the refrigerator.
1:21:13
Speaker 1: That backyard is there. I can walk out there. If
1:21:17
Speaker 1: it's raining, I can walk out there. If it's snowing,
1:21:19
Speaker 1: I can walk out there. And so that's what helped
1:21:22
Speaker 1: to me. And so if you ever get to the
1:21:23
Speaker 1: Atlanta area, you come on down Rashawn's property. Okay, well listen, McDonald,
1:21:28
Speaker 1: let me tell you something. There's nothing wrong with being vulnerable,
1:21:32
Speaker 1: if not weak. It's human. You have a lot of
1:21:37
Speaker 1: responsibilities and I know you have high expectation, high expectations
1:21:41
Speaker 1: of yourself, and sometimes we put so much personal on
1:21:44
Speaker 1: so you know that we put our own selves in
1:21:47
Speaker 1: the corner. But I'm do that is okay. You're doing
1:21:51
Speaker 1: great and you have to know that. And it's okay
1:21:56
Speaker 1: if people understand. Like people, we gotta understand, the stakes
1:22:00
Speaker 1: is gonna happen, right because we from those we become
1:22:04
Speaker 1: better because of mistakes, who become better? Sometimes we think
1:22:08
Speaker 1: everything is how I can't take a ross, I can't
1:22:10
Speaker 1: make a mistake. That's how we become a better version
1:22:13
Speaker 1: of us. So I'm telling it's okay to be vulnerable.
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Speaker 1: your host, Sean McDonald agree with you, you know and
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Speaker 1: I and that's why. But it's hard to lock it
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Speaker 1: into this old brain, Okay, to just show a sign
1:23:33
Speaker 1: of weakness. Now, That's why I have honest conversations on
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Speaker 1: my show because of the fact that I bring I
1:23:38
Speaker 1: continue an expert, and in the process of being an expert,
1:23:42
Speaker 1: I'm able to have honest conversations and allow myself to
1:23:45
Speaker 1: be challenged because I love it. I love your tone
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Speaker 1: and voors. You stepped up, you know a little bit
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Speaker 1: extra levels of Richard. Hold up now, it's all right. Now.
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Speaker 1: You almost went into preacher mode on me. That I
1:23:55
Speaker 1: was like, my girl stepped up on me. Girl? Wow?
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Speaker 1: And uh and I love it. So here's a question
1:24:02
Speaker 1: that I wanted to bring to Why do you think
1:24:04
Speaker 1: it's so important to encourage other people, especially young people?
1:24:07
Speaker 1: This is the key in this conversation through words. Is
1:24:10
Speaker 1: this type of encouragement something you felt you didn't receive
1:24:13
Speaker 1: growing up? That type of encouragement because I always tell people,
1:24:17
Speaker 1: you know, I have a daughter, you know, she's twenty
1:24:19
Speaker 1: four now, and I can remember all she was was
1:24:22
Speaker 1: just a blank slate and if I said something jarring
1:24:25
Speaker 1: to her, then she reacted physically, almost stunned. So how
1:24:31
Speaker 1: important it is to have a positive lifestyle towards young
1:24:35
Speaker 1: people as they as they ascend into adulthood. It's very important.
1:24:41
Speaker 1: Words carry power and people can hold on words. Sometimes
1:24:45
Speaker 1: people get physically abused. Sometimes some scars can go away,
1:24:50
Speaker 1: and sometimes words, you know, the words can be internal
1:24:53
Speaker 1: scars in your heart. And just kids got it. You know,
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Speaker 1: when I wrote I Mad, I voted in the base
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Speaker 1: of what I wanted to hear what I needed to
1:25:03
Speaker 1: hear when I was six shared or that I met
1:25:06
Speaker 1: that I deserved you know, you know, I deserve to
1:25:10
Speaker 1: be treated good. I deserve to be loved, that I
1:25:12
Speaker 1: am worthy. And these kids need to understand, especially in
1:25:15
Speaker 1: the times that we've done with today. Um, we gotta
1:25:19
Speaker 1: push and challenge our children, but we also gotta let
1:25:22
Speaker 1: them know their love and they need to appreciate being
1:25:24
Speaker 1: themselves because so many children are aspiring to look and
1:25:28
Speaker 1: be like someone else that they're not even living in
1:25:30
Speaker 1: their own skin. They're living for other people. And so
1:25:34
Speaker 1: that's why we have to encourage them and be positive
1:25:36
Speaker 1: that you have something special about you, how to bring
1:25:40
Speaker 1: it out because a lot of kids are trying to
1:25:43
Speaker 1: just they don't. I want to be this person. I
1:25:45
Speaker 1: want to be this person though, be you and just
1:25:47
Speaker 1: be the best version of you, and people want to
1:25:50
Speaker 1: love you, and I matter. Which is a is an
1:25:54
Speaker 1: interactive is animation is an animated type book. John it's
1:26:01
Speaker 1: color it's a color book. Is gonna say it's animated,
1:26:03
Speaker 1: but interactive books. They're gonna write in it and they
1:26:06
Speaker 1: can change because their life can change. They can grow.
1:26:10
Speaker 1: It's like I have something that says I'm going to
1:26:12
Speaker 1: be the next you say, you know, politics and President Lawy,
1:26:16
Speaker 1: your doctor. It can always change, so they can always
1:26:18
Speaker 1: erase it and change because your dreams can change, or
1:26:22
Speaker 1: you know, your goals can change. So I made it
1:26:24
Speaker 1: interactive where it can write in it. I put a
1:26:27
Speaker 1: pledge in there, nothing that they can go by it,
1:26:30
Speaker 1: something to like, you know, this is my mission statement,
1:26:33
Speaker 1: this is my pledge. This is who I am. You
1:26:36
Speaker 1: know when I when I see a book like this,
1:26:38
Speaker 1: and I see and I'm talking to you, and the
1:26:42
Speaker 1: whole process is that, Okay, you have an idea, correct Ashley,
1:26:45
Speaker 1: and then this idea has to be sold to somebody
1:26:48
Speaker 1: and convinced that this has value, you know. And that
1:26:51
Speaker 1: tells me you have a unique talent because a lot
1:26:54
Speaker 1: of people want to do what you do. They just
1:26:55
Speaker 1: start doing at the level that you're doing. What's the
1:26:58
Speaker 1: ultimate plan? Because you're you're a very good talker, you
1:27:01
Speaker 1: know your your your passion, you have motivation, and you
1:27:06
Speaker 1: want to mentor individuals to be successful or to come
1:27:10
Speaker 1: out of those lanes of darkness with a plan. What
1:27:13
Speaker 1: is your plan when you talk to people about going
1:27:16
Speaker 1: to the next step? Ashley Woods I'm talking to Ashley Woods.
1:27:19
Speaker 1: Her book I Matter, which is just released book new book,
1:27:22
Speaker 1: which is an interactive book of affirmations for the youth,
1:27:24
Speaker 1: utilize in the alphabet, explores positive words and uplift and
1:27:28
Speaker 1: encourage all readers. I Matter allows you to customize the
1:27:31
Speaker 1: confirmation and reinforce through our youth how great they are. Wow,
1:27:39
Speaker 1: you make me understand that they're more Ashley needed in
1:27:42
Speaker 1: this world. Its Woods, thank you. I appreciate that. That's
1:27:49
Speaker 1: a good day. That it really do. And and that's
1:27:53
Speaker 1: the thing when when people say things like that, it
1:27:56
Speaker 1: drives me, It wants me to seed and gives back more.
1:28:00
Speaker 1: And the plan is just to have people that don't know,
1:28:04
Speaker 1: you know, don't know their words or value or don't
1:28:06
Speaker 1: feel like you know their life is not a mountain
1:28:09
Speaker 1: uphing anything that it can. You can always change the story.
1:28:13
Speaker 1: You can change your story. You've gotta believe in yourself
1:28:16
Speaker 1: and you gotta put yourself around you know, positive people.
1:28:20
Speaker 1: You gotta yeah our focus and it's it's hard, it's
1:28:25
Speaker 1: easier said than done. But um, the goal is when
1:28:28
Speaker 1: I speak to people, whether they feel like they should
1:28:32
Speaker 1: be diagnosed or not, that they have a better understanding
1:28:35
Speaker 1: mental health, that they don't judge, they don't stigmatize, they
1:28:37
Speaker 1: don't look down on people, don't look down on themselves,
1:28:41
Speaker 1: and you don't have to understand everybody's story and path,
1:28:45
Speaker 1: but just resuspected. That's how we want respect when it
1:28:48
Speaker 1: comes to equality and racism. You know, people dealing with
1:28:52
Speaker 1: mental health issues want the same respect as well. We know,
1:28:57
Speaker 1: doing the pandemic or that, a lot of isolation, a
1:28:59
Speaker 1: lot of things you wanted to do you couldn't do,
1:29:01
Speaker 1: cut you were shut down for two months? How did that?
1:29:05
Speaker 1: How did you deal with that? And how did the
1:29:07
Speaker 1: people that you mentored along the way to stay positive?
1:29:10
Speaker 1: To deal with this whole pandemic that's ongoing. Civil rest
1:29:14
Speaker 1: is ongoing, Uh, the economy is fractured. Were you at
1:29:19
Speaker 1: mentally and the people you're trying to support that mentally
1:29:21
Speaker 1: doing this really period of unrest emotionally, physically, financially, and
1:29:26
Speaker 1: health wise. That's why I'm here and that's where it
1:29:31
Speaker 1: came out. During the pandemic, I tooked to people through
1:29:37
Speaker 1: social media, whether it was like Facebook, Messenger or within
1:29:41
Speaker 1: the DM know. I post up funny stuff on my
1:29:45
Speaker 1: page and I just made myself accessible to people. I
1:29:49
Speaker 1: always told people if you need to talk to me,
1:29:51
Speaker 1: if you want to vent, I'm here, And that's the
1:29:54
Speaker 1: motion you could, you know, you could though, And I
1:29:56
Speaker 1: try to, you know, stay busy during the pandemicause too
1:29:59
Speaker 1: much time when again sometimes not the campea good or something.
1:30:04
Speaker 1: So I also try to stay busy and I always
1:30:07
Speaker 1: try to just stay ready for whatever it's gonna come,
1:30:09
Speaker 1: you know, come my way, you know, paid attention what
1:30:12
Speaker 1: was going on news. And I also became you know,
1:30:16
Speaker 1: engaged in the movement of George Floyd uh and Brianna Teller,
1:30:22
Speaker 1: and you know, I just learned. I read a lot
1:30:25
Speaker 1: more and I just encouraged people to a lot of people,
1:30:29
Speaker 1: you know, where everything was going on. Some people, we
1:30:32
Speaker 1: got some millionaires that's gonna come out of this pandemic
1:30:35
Speaker 1: because they dig deep down and found some hustles to
1:30:38
Speaker 1: make it and provide for their family. So the country's
1:30:42
Speaker 1: going through difficult times. But I think some people, when
1:30:45
Speaker 1: it's all centers, that is going to really come out
1:30:47
Speaker 1: on top. But for me, I wrote and I spread up,
1:30:52
Speaker 1: you know, and that's that's the best thing that I
1:30:54
Speaker 1: can do. Spread love, be positive and write actually your
1:30:58
Speaker 1: new book, I matter you utilize the alphabet? Why the alphabet, Well,
1:31:06
Speaker 1: it's something that's like that's my thing where it comes
1:31:08
Speaker 1: to kids, because I I, you know, I was a
1:31:10
Speaker 1: substitute teacher and I just used to see as for
1:31:14
Speaker 1: appoob is for boy, and I right, oh god, that's
1:31:18
Speaker 1: it's so cliche, and so I wanted to change it up.
1:31:22
Speaker 1: And so in my books, like the first letters like
1:31:25
Speaker 1: I am awesome, and there's like to be I am
1:31:28
Speaker 1: breede me. You know, I just put um, I mad her,
1:31:34
Speaker 1: I'm mad her because I need the kids to write
1:31:37
Speaker 1: down you know why the legendary words that they don't
1:31:42
Speaker 1: hear every day where is that they only see like
1:31:45
Speaker 1: you know, celebrities and superstars say about themselves. You can
1:31:49
Speaker 1: say that about yourself till you gotta claim it. You
1:31:51
Speaker 1: gotta see things before they all they come, you know,
1:31:54
Speaker 1: come to nutrition pho pho M. I try, I can't
1:31:56
Speaker 1: get the word out about but you gotta you gotta
1:32:02
Speaker 1: see it before it even happened. So I just went
1:32:05
Speaker 1: through the alphabet because I just felt like it's a
1:32:07
Speaker 1: creative way of you know, getting kids to still understand
1:32:11
Speaker 1: the alphabet will also learning new words average words. Now
1:32:15
Speaker 1: these words of information and new positive words, words that
1:32:18
Speaker 1: some kids might not really here all the time. You absolutely,
1:32:23
Speaker 1: I I just forgot to ask for alphabets with books.
1:32:26
Speaker 1: See if a cad D a dog, you know it's
1:32:28
Speaker 1: an elephant, you know, GF for draft. I'm just going through.
1:32:31
Speaker 1: I've forgotten about all those words that was tied to
1:32:35
Speaker 1: a letter. And you just go, okay, let's let's just
1:32:37
Speaker 1: just give different words. Let's advances a little bit more.
1:32:40
Speaker 1: Let's let's word and means something. Who sees an elephant
1:32:43
Speaker 1: unless you go to a zoo? Who sees a giraffe?
1:32:46
Speaker 1: Unless you go to a zoo? Put words in They're awesome,
1:32:49
Speaker 1: you know though, the these are words that that what
1:32:52
Speaker 1: kid needs to see. This is what we call, as
1:32:55
Speaker 1: they say, you put on your mirror affirmation statements that
1:32:58
Speaker 1: make you feel good about your self and make you
1:33:01
Speaker 1: embolden you to be a better person than you were
1:33:04
Speaker 1: the day before. That's awesome. I I really appreciate that
1:33:07
Speaker 1: because that that was a trigger for me, because I
1:33:09
Speaker 1: forgot when I asked you that question. I forgot that
1:33:11
Speaker 1: it is for aphobeans for you know, I forgot that
1:33:14
Speaker 1: little simple rhyme that's stuck in my head all these years.
1:33:18
Speaker 1: Was really married to. If you're you're trying to say,
1:33:20
Speaker 1: let's let's put new words in there, looks put new words.
1:33:22
Speaker 1: And these new words are words that that matter emotionally,
1:33:27
Speaker 1: that it will uplift you, that will motivate you to
1:33:29
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1:33:31
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1:33:55
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1:33:57
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1:34:03
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1:34:41
Speaker 1: in one moving forward. Now. Actually, great, thank you for
1:34:45
Speaker 1: coming on my show. Thank you so much, Mr McDonald.
1:34:49
Speaker 1: It was a pleasure. Well, you know, it was honor
1:34:52
Speaker 1: because we got to have a good conversation. You got
1:34:54
Speaker 1: a conversation about me. You're motivated me a little bit.
1:34:57
Speaker 1: You told me to step up. Don't worry about the rashan.
1:35:00
Speaker 1: You know it's all right. There's a writer to let
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1:35:06
Speaker 1: You know that because we sometimes live a life of that.
1:35:09
Speaker 1: That pressure is interesting because you know you can get
1:35:11
Speaker 1: there and you go, I can't let people know that
1:35:14
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Speaker 1: McDonald My next guest. Terence Wheeler is a highly respected
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Speaker 1: professional with over twenty years of experience and community relations
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Speaker 1: and philanthropic activities, specializing in community outreach and corporate partnerships.
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Speaker 1: His greatest passion is helping enrich the lives of at
1:39:11
Speaker 1: rich young people and communities throughout metropolitan Detroit area. Some
1:39:15
Speaker 1: of his notable charitable events include Back to School Supply Drive,
1:39:20
Speaker 1: Phenomon Hygiene Campaign, All Star Give Back, Turkey Drive, just
1:39:24
Speaker 1: to name a few. Mr Wheelers often seen speaking and
1:39:28
Speaker 1: motivating young people in the Detroit area schools with a
1:39:31
Speaker 1: simple mission to alleviate the non academic barriers to education.
1:39:35
Speaker 1: Please work with the money Making conversation, my man, Terrence Wheeler,
1:39:41
Speaker 1: thanks for having me. Hey man. First of all, you know, um,
1:39:46
Speaker 1: you know, we've been knowing each other years, hadn't seen
1:39:48
Speaker 1: each other in years. But it's a blessing talk about
1:39:52
Speaker 1: absolutely man, I'm talking about man. Uh, this a long
1:39:56
Speaker 1: history and you're one of the buzzs. Man, that inspired me, Uh,
1:40:00
Speaker 1: like I want to do for so many other young
1:40:02
Speaker 1: brothers to not give up. How do you reinvent yourself
1:40:05
Speaker 1: as a former athlete? When I see you, Man, I
1:40:08
Speaker 1: actually see God moving. I said, Well, if he could
1:40:10
Speaker 1: do it for Rashaan, he could do it for me.
1:40:13
Speaker 1: I just gotta stick with it and trust my purpose
1:40:15
Speaker 1: and continue to walk in that purpose and never be
1:40:18
Speaker 1: never be uh apologetic about my gifts by my success.
1:40:23
Speaker 1: Unusually unwavering and committed. You're doing the best that I
1:40:26
Speaker 1: can do each and every day, and you do a
1:40:28
Speaker 1: great job at it and that thing within the community.
1:40:30
Speaker 1: Because let's talk about this. This year has had to
1:40:32
Speaker 1: spend the most challenging year, I'm sure for all your
1:40:35
Speaker 1: childable efforts to social arrest the COVID nineteen. So let's talk.
1:40:39
Speaker 1: Let's move. We'll step back before you respond, why was
1:40:42
Speaker 1: why is this mission of uplifting the community philanthropic activities
1:40:47
Speaker 1: important to you and the Detroit community? Well, you know,
1:40:51
Speaker 1: I was a child of poverty, man. I grew up
1:40:53
Speaker 1: like a lot of young brothers. Uh, mother on drugs,
1:40:55
Speaker 1: the father that was absolutely I spent a total of
1:40:58
Speaker 1: four hours my entire life of my father and three
1:41:00
Speaker 1: of those who I was at his funeral, And so
1:41:02
Speaker 1: I was just blessed to have a good grandfather, some uncles,
1:41:05
Speaker 1: and a hell of a basketball coach that really gave
1:41:08
Speaker 1: me confidence and saw some ability in me. And I said, Lord,
1:41:11
Speaker 1: if I'm ever in a position, I want to use
1:41:13
Speaker 1: that position to help other people, other children who think
1:41:16
Speaker 1: that they can't make it based on one this situation.
1:41:18
Speaker 1: Because life is not about your conditions. It's your decision
1:41:21
Speaker 1: making that determines your destiny. Use some of those things
1:41:25
Speaker 1: in your community as motivating factors for you to get
1:41:27
Speaker 1: out of there and come back and save somebody else.
1:41:29
Speaker 1: And so my mother's drug use made me want to
1:41:32
Speaker 1: become academically as a stellar in terms of academics because
1:41:36
Speaker 1: I didn't want her to come into the school for
1:41:37
Speaker 1: any reason of my behavior of my brain, because she
1:41:40
Speaker 1: was a drug ad. And I grew up in the
1:41:42
Speaker 1: dope house man where we uh sold Tallers values writtling
1:41:46
Speaker 1: method on all the way up to heroin. And so
1:41:48
Speaker 1: I moved with my grandmother at the age of twelve,
1:41:51
Speaker 1: uh and in beside to turn around because I had
1:41:53
Speaker 1: more of a stable home environment. Wasn't you know, our
1:41:56
Speaker 1: house is to get ready with my mother and things
1:41:58
Speaker 1: that nature. Eviction. Uh. Sometimes you you're you're home and
1:42:02
Speaker 1: you're homeless, so you're not thinking about homework, you're thinking
1:42:04
Speaker 1: about survival. Wasn't. So I went to my grandmother's house
1:42:07
Speaker 1: where I saw stability and my grandfather just working hard
1:42:11
Speaker 1: to provide for his family. My grandmother gave me a
1:42:13
Speaker 1: lot of tools in terms of social skills and how
1:42:16
Speaker 1: to deal with people. Uh. And so that's why I'm
1:42:19
Speaker 1: able to do things I'm doing today, man, because my grandmother. Well,
1:42:22
Speaker 1: when I met you, you know, that's when you Derrick Coleman,
1:42:25
Speaker 1: I was with Steve Harvey was up in New York too.
1:42:27
Speaker 1: Every time we went up there, we connected, you know,
1:42:29
Speaker 1: eating something great detruit restaurant. Boy, I tell you, boy,
1:42:32
Speaker 1: we eat some food up there. Ter lovely, come up
1:42:39
Speaker 1: there and eat at the tru And also, you know,
1:42:41
Speaker 1: go shoe shopping, Go shoe shopping. Come on Glis man, Yes, man,
1:42:46
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1:42:49
Speaker 1: know the name, you know the names and h that
1:42:52
Speaker 1: was the fun part of our relationship. But you know,
1:42:54
Speaker 1: it was always coming up there where there's a broadcast
1:42:56
Speaker 1: and always talking about what we can do with the
1:42:58
Speaker 1: Turkey drives up there with you guys man and in
1:43:01
Speaker 1: the Detroit area with the local radio affiliate. So let's
1:43:04
Speaker 1: talk about first your back to school supply drive. What
1:43:08
Speaker 1: started that and how can one help when the next
1:43:13
Speaker 1: year are or do you do it doing the spring
1:43:15
Speaker 1: or you just do it during the August month when
1:43:17
Speaker 1: they're going back to school and when we're doing in August, Rashan,
1:43:21
Speaker 1: because man, I'm asking for so all years, so I
1:43:23
Speaker 1: got to kind of targeted month where stacentric programs are
1:43:26
Speaker 1: going on. So the back to School Valley, it's really
1:43:29
Speaker 1: an opportunity to bring families together before schools start. They
1:43:33
Speaker 1: got free haircuts. Also put not just school supplies in
1:43:37
Speaker 1: the backpack, I put toiletries because Rashan, some kids are
1:43:40
Speaker 1: living in shelters. Some kids are living on the couch,
1:43:43
Speaker 1: friends or families. So we want to make sure they
1:43:45
Speaker 1: have adult white, They got the older with, they got
1:43:48
Speaker 1: body washed, all the things that they need so they
1:43:50
Speaker 1: can start school. Because no kid wants to come to
1:43:53
Speaker 1: school not having the tombs they need to be successful.
1:43:56
Speaker 1: We want to encourage kids to receive that translates of
1:43:59
Speaker 1: education and you only do that when you feel well equipped,
1:44:02
Speaker 1: when you feel well prepared, and so we want kids
1:44:05
Speaker 1: to be prepared, want you to look good, get your
1:44:07
Speaker 1: hair covered, Mont feeds you, so there's no excuse for
1:44:10
Speaker 1: you not to go to school. So my job is
1:44:12
Speaker 1: to alleviate these non academic various education and so these
1:44:16
Speaker 1: programs I started out of pain because young people are
1:44:19
Speaker 1: talking to me. Hey, I need this, Mr Ward. I
1:44:21
Speaker 1: mean that to your job as an adult is to
1:44:24
Speaker 1: get those things close the gap that this kid just
1:44:27
Speaker 1: focused on school and not have to worry about the
1:44:29
Speaker 1: adults with vacation. I got a program with our energy company,
1:44:33
Speaker 1: so therefore we can get in front of the light field.
1:44:36
Speaker 1: You can get in front of the gas feel before
1:44:38
Speaker 1: those winter months, get that mother and father on a
1:44:41
Speaker 1: payment plan on some type of programs for the lights
1:44:43
Speaker 1: and gas are not cut off. Because these kids are
1:44:46
Speaker 1: coming to me at eight o'clock in the morning payment
1:44:47
Speaker 1: through the the lights and gas cut off. Now, this
1:44:49
Speaker 1: kid is trying to figure out all day, how can
1:44:51
Speaker 1: he help his mom or exadly, let's get in front
1:44:53
Speaker 1: of let's be proactive, let's help young people achieve their goals.
1:44:57
Speaker 1: You're so true because young people should not have to
1:45:00
Speaker 1: worry about electricity. I was laughing at my wife. You know,
1:45:03
Speaker 1: I live in Atlanta and I live in Houston, and
1:45:05
Speaker 1: they drove back this weekend too to Houston. My daughter
1:45:09
Speaker 1: drove about seven of the of the twelve hours to
1:45:12
Speaker 1: drive back. And then my wife, you know, she got
1:45:14
Speaker 1: up earlier on Sunday morning by ten o'clock and my
1:45:17
Speaker 1: daughter was still in bed. And I said, she said, uh,
1:45:20
Speaker 1: look at it, she's still sleep I said, he baby.
1:45:21
Speaker 1: First of all, you know, she's a senior in college.
1:45:23
Speaker 1: She's doing fantastic. She lives in a really good household.
1:45:26
Speaker 1: She doesn't have to worry about anything. I said. The
1:45:28
Speaker 1: only reason we get up out of bed because worry
1:45:30
Speaker 1: gets outside of bed. You know, thoughts of how to
1:45:33
Speaker 1: pay a bill, how to put food on the table,
1:45:36
Speaker 1: or rent our children, or your life. That's what gets
1:45:38
Speaker 1: us out of bed. Otherwise we stay in bed too.
1:45:41
Speaker 1: But that's what young people shouldn't only have to worry
1:45:43
Speaker 1: about this. You only worry about Academics worry about dreams,
1:45:47
Speaker 1: dreaming the impossible and making it come true. And that's
1:45:50
Speaker 1: why I really appreciate it. But really, finally getting you
1:45:53
Speaker 1: on the show, at the time in my life where
1:45:54
Speaker 1: I'm I feel I'm complete, I feel I'm whole, and
1:45:57
Speaker 1: I can come back into your life and make make
1:46:00
Speaker 1: be a benefit, you know, being an asset to what
1:46:02
Speaker 1: you're doing up in the Detroit area. And that's really key.
1:46:05
Speaker 1: When I hear you say, you know a kid coming
1:46:07
Speaker 1: to you eight o'clock more talking about my I don't
1:46:09
Speaker 1: know if I can get I got bill only my
1:46:11
Speaker 1: life is going to be on That should not be
1:46:14
Speaker 1: a child's word. A child's words should be you know
1:46:17
Speaker 1: what the baseball score was? What were the football score was?
1:46:20
Speaker 1: You know what? What what my grades are going to
1:46:22
Speaker 1: be in school? What I gotta wear that allows in
1:46:24
Speaker 1: the function normal. If they are not allowed the function
1:46:27
Speaker 1: normal at a young age, then become a very dysfunction
1:46:31
Speaker 1: on adult. And that's what you're trying to stop. Let
1:46:35
Speaker 1: me sell you a quick story, brother. So you know
1:46:37
Speaker 1: right now we're doing they're doing remote learning. Okay, So
1:46:40
Speaker 1: we're asking kids for shan to compete worldwide when they
1:46:44
Speaker 1: can't connect locally. When kids don't have internet, don't have hotspot,
1:46:48
Speaker 1: don't have Chrome books. Some kids are in transition. I
1:46:52
Speaker 1: had an educator called me last week and say hey,
1:46:55
Speaker 1: I got a kid that's doing the zoom in the bed. Now,
1:46:58
Speaker 1: your first thought will be, this kid is in the
1:47:00
Speaker 1: bed because he don't want to be seen. No, let's
1:47:03
Speaker 1: kill the onion back. This kid is in the bed
1:47:04
Speaker 1: with Sean because they have no furniture. Bed is the
1:47:07
Speaker 1: only person he has. So what I'm gonna do tomorrow
1:47:11
Speaker 1: or wedndsy is I'm going to complete the deal with
1:47:13
Speaker 1: the furniture place and at least get this kid a
1:47:16
Speaker 1: din at table. That table gives them the opportunity to
1:47:19
Speaker 1: have family dinner. You can now set up. Your posture
1:47:22
Speaker 1: is better and you feel like, you know what, I
1:47:24
Speaker 1: feel good about it? Why are we having kids and conditions?
1:47:29
Speaker 1: That's in humane? Man. There's a pandemic of poverty with Sean.
1:47:33
Speaker 1: Before the coronavirus, my people were suffered. My people were
1:47:37
Speaker 1: making decisions to buy gas, you buy food. How do
1:47:41
Speaker 1: I survive? Now? This pandemic has done nothing but exacerbate
1:47:45
Speaker 1: what poverty is. And see, one of the things about
1:47:48
Speaker 1: poverty it limits access to people that can help you
1:47:51
Speaker 1: stop just all about money. People are forgotten about it.
1:47:55
Speaker 1: In particular, River Rouge, Risking, a suburb of Detroit, there's
1:47:59
Speaker 1: more merrible other dispensaries and food I so therefore I
1:48:02
Speaker 1: have to start a mobile food pastry on Wednesdees. But Sean,
1:48:06
Speaker 1: I have people driving forty five minutes each way. Some
1:48:09
Speaker 1: people because the need is so great, they're picking up
1:48:12
Speaker 1: food for themselves and their neighbor. And I'm gonna see
1:48:15
Speaker 1: you a picture of a guy that comes every Wednesday.
1:48:17
Speaker 1: He's uh vetteran with prosthetic laid. He's on a scooter.
1:48:21
Speaker 1: He's sticking a food for him and his neighbor. Another
1:48:24
Speaker 1: brother comes, he just has a suitcase. I said, rememb're
1:48:27
Speaker 1: gonna feel his suitcase up. You can walk back to
1:48:29
Speaker 1: your apartment. It's less judge and more help. People are hungry,
1:48:32
Speaker 1: and when you're hungry, with you your brain can't even
1:48:35
Speaker 1: function at its full capacity because the blood flowers cut
1:48:38
Speaker 1: off your blood. Your blood, your gluecloases because none of
1:48:41
Speaker 1: your bloody brightest functions at half capacity because you're hungry.
1:48:46
Speaker 1: And when you're hungry, man, that's a that's a pain sensation.
1:48:49
Speaker 1: But the food insecurity is a lack of access that
1:48:52
Speaker 1: could resources that can economics. So my job is to
1:48:56
Speaker 1: figure out how do we help the community as a whole.
1:49:00
Speaker 1: You know, mom and daddy, you can help the kids
1:49:02
Speaker 1: because the kid has this stress that they should not have.
1:49:05
Speaker 1: To your point, those kids should be here to go
1:49:07
Speaker 1: to sleep at night, get up in the morning. I'll
1:49:09
Speaker 1: worry about being touched in them in the middle of
1:49:11
Speaker 1: night by the step father, being evicted, being without lights
1:49:15
Speaker 1: and gas. Man, you don't have lights and gas and detra.
1:49:18
Speaker 1: But that's a problem right coming. You know a lot
1:49:25
Speaker 1: of people realize it gets hot in Detroit, to it
1:49:27
Speaker 1: gets it gets hot up there. A lot of people
1:49:29
Speaker 1: just they don't get they get hot up there, get
1:49:32
Speaker 1: hot in New York to trot ch cargo all those
1:49:34
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1:49:36
Speaker 1: you know when I when I think about first of all, Terrence,
1:49:39
Speaker 1: your your passion and your articulation is outstanding man. And
1:49:43
Speaker 1: uh and I'm mad now that this first time I've
1:49:46
Speaker 1: had you on my show. So you guys to be
1:49:48
Speaker 1: a regular man. You know you might be one of
1:49:50
Speaker 1: my I always tell people, Man, I bring people in
1:49:52
Speaker 1: my life, Terrence that motivate me. You know what I'm saying.
1:49:55
Speaker 1: I'd be going back talk for a minute now and
1:50:00
Speaker 1: to shout out to your point, man, I'm out of
1:50:02
Speaker 1: space man, where I just feel like you get four
1:50:06
Speaker 1: types of people to come in your life. Though the
1:50:07
Speaker 1: ads attract multipplied divide. I need more addition and multiplication,
1:50:12
Speaker 1: less substraction in the visit because God got me on
1:50:14
Speaker 1: the flight that I prayed on the side. I prayed
1:50:17
Speaker 1: on this flight to be able to make an indelible impact,
1:50:19
Speaker 1: to be that guy to say, you know what. Mr
1:50:21
Speaker 1: Willia inspired me not to give up the reason why
1:50:24
Speaker 1: I come to school. He supplied my need. You don't
1:50:26
Speaker 1: owe me nothing, give it back to somebody else, because
1:50:28
Speaker 1: so many helped me. I stand on the shoulders a giant.
1:50:32
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you a story, man. I was ten
1:50:34
Speaker 1: years old, traveled to New Orleans and see my grandfather.
1:50:37
Speaker 1: I got there on the Wednesday night, was shone. On
1:50:39
Speaker 1: Thursday night, I went to sleep. This guy was tied
1:50:42
Speaker 1: up and shot twice. I slept through the whole ordeal.
1:50:46
Speaker 1: I'm telling you my life is down in vain. I
1:50:48
Speaker 1: cannot afford to not do good work. My life has
1:50:51
Speaker 1: been spared, man, So I gotta make sure that i'm
1:50:54
Speaker 1: every day. How am I helping people? How am I
1:50:57
Speaker 1: helping people? Because in this life when we go doing
1:51:00
Speaker 1: success sometimes and a black community, uh is survivor's remorse
1:51:05
Speaker 1: or you think you all that? No, no, that's what
1:51:06
Speaker 1: you think. I just read a different decision. I want
1:51:09
Speaker 1: my life to be positive. As a former athletes. Two
1:51:12
Speaker 1: things I got from basketball discipline and accountability. Man, those
1:51:17
Speaker 1: two factors are prevalent in my life. If you just
1:51:20
Speaker 1: when you get up at the stay a certain times
1:51:21
Speaker 1: every morning, and you consistent, you hold yourself accountable. Conceive brother,
1:51:26
Speaker 1: real growth is holding yourself accountable. True self care is
1:51:30
Speaker 1: I'm allowing myself to grace, to make the mistake, I'll
1:51:33
Speaker 1: get back at it again in the mall. Man. So
1:51:36
Speaker 1: guys like you man inspired me so much man that
1:51:39
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, what Sean is? I remember with Sean
1:51:42
Speaker 1: ninety two point three. I remember that situation. I remember
1:51:46
Speaker 1: you're going dominating the sea markets, brother, running that now
1:51:50
Speaker 1: nasty syndicated shows and movies and everything that I said. Ship,
1:51:54
Speaker 1: and I just gotta make sure I'm staying in the game.
1:51:56
Speaker 1: I say, connect to this brother somehow, some way to
1:51:59
Speaker 1: suit man. Listen, bro, I was there, man, and I
1:52:03
Speaker 1: just appreciate your humble his brother. But you're a bad man.
1:52:07
Speaker 1: I'm blest to have. Every time I tech, you hit
1:52:10
Speaker 1: me back. So I'm blest to have that connectivity man.
1:52:12
Speaker 1: Because there's a thing called overflow. Brother, I believe in it,
1:52:16
Speaker 1: and I'm not appreciated in any shape before. Brother, But
1:52:20
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1:52:23
Speaker 1: of a lazy man desires that has nothing but the
1:52:27
Speaker 1: soul of a villager man shall be may rich. I
1:52:29
Speaker 1: will never be as much as Bill Gates. So I'm
1:52:31
Speaker 1: gonna be rich and and love and empathy for my people.
1:52:35
Speaker 1: You know that's absolutely the truth. And that's for driving me.
1:52:39
Speaker 1: Here's here's the thing that I love listening to you
1:52:41
Speaker 1: because you have your spirit, you have your point of view,
1:52:44
Speaker 1: and you know, the thing about it is that let's
1:52:46
Speaker 1: let's take everybody on the journey. When we've met used
1:52:49
Speaker 1: with Derrick Coleman, NBA superstar, Okay sarrac Us or everybody
1:52:54
Speaker 1: knowing the history of him, you're tried native. And then
1:52:56
Speaker 1: I was with Steve Harvy and we were building their brand,
1:52:59
Speaker 1: shaping their brain and you know, yours only philanthropic side
1:53:02
Speaker 1: for Derrick Coleman, mine was just on the global media
1:53:05
Speaker 1: side with Steve as well as philanthropic. Okay, fast forward now,
1:53:08
Speaker 1: and I said that the earlier part of the call.
1:53:10
Speaker 1: You know I have my voice. I know exactly who
1:53:13
Speaker 1: was selling McDonald was. I know exactly what I'm trying
1:53:16
Speaker 1: to do. I know my relationships, all of them are
1:53:18
Speaker 1: very good, and my relationships in the past I've been
1:53:20
Speaker 1: very good. When I hear you talk, I hear a
1:53:23
Speaker 1: clean point of view about what you want to do
1:53:26
Speaker 1: for the people from your point of view, and there's
1:53:28
Speaker 1: nobody stopping you. Because a lot of times when you
1:53:30
Speaker 1: work with other people, you have to go what do
1:53:32
Speaker 1: you want to do? What do you want to do?
1:53:34
Speaker 1: And it's not your vision that you're shaping. You're shaping
1:53:37
Speaker 1: their vision. Their vision and action may not move at
1:53:39
Speaker 1: the page that you wanted to move. And I'm hearing
1:53:41
Speaker 1: an indomitable and the dominable pace of of I can
1:53:45
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1:53:48
Speaker 1: it get to this point in your life? Terms? Man?
1:53:51
Speaker 1: I remember Sean and I was getting ready to play
1:53:55
Speaker 1: uh AU Championship under Armstrong. My grandmother said something to me.
1:54:01
Speaker 1: I didn't realize what she was saying at that particular moment,
1:54:04
Speaker 1: she gave me some money to catch the bus, and
1:54:06
Speaker 1: she says, you're gonna do something great with people. And
1:54:09
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1:54:12
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1:54:15
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1:54:18
Speaker 1: had prophesies over my life, and she said, you're gonna
1:54:21
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1:54:23
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1:54:26
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1:54:29
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1:54:31
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1:54:34
Speaker 1: she would have been to sacrifice. Uh. And so for me,
1:54:37
Speaker 1: I just said, man, I know my space because I remember, man,
1:54:41
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1:54:44
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1:54:47
Speaker 1: was calling a hundred black men. I was calling Urban League.
1:54:50
Speaker 1: I want to just come to be a partnerment let
1:54:52
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1:54:55
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1:54:58
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1:55:00
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1:55:04
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1:55:06
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1:55:12
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1:55:15
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1:55:19
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1:55:54
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to money making conversations. I'm your host, Sean McDonald,
1:57:13
Speaker 1: And that's key. That's key. I've learned that, especially kids
1:57:16
Speaker 1: who have known rejection or disappointment all their lives, what
1:57:20
Speaker 1: you cannot do is like make a solo appearance and
1:57:23
Speaker 1: expect them to respect you because they used to that.
1:57:26
Speaker 1: They used to. They used to love ones doing them
1:57:28
Speaker 1: like that. They used to parents doing them like that.
1:57:30
Speaker 1: They used to people just dropping off stuff and go
1:57:32
Speaker 1: and see you later. They they they don't that there's
1:57:35
Speaker 1: nothing loyal about that relationship. So they will they will.
1:57:39
Speaker 1: They will battle you, they will fight you, they will
1:57:42
Speaker 1: fight change, they will fight. They won't respect the process.
1:57:45
Speaker 1: And so we talked about the back to school supply drive,
1:57:48
Speaker 1: which is outstanding every August, and then I we have
1:57:50
Speaker 1: the hygiene campaign. I have six sisters, so so this
1:57:54
Speaker 1: is something that I'm very familiar with from from just
1:57:57
Speaker 1: just living with six sisters and the importance of hygiene.
1:58:00
Speaker 1: And I talked to my daughter about it all the
1:58:01
Speaker 1: time as well, letting them know. And she knows, but
1:58:04
Speaker 1: you always let them know how important it is to
1:58:06
Speaker 1: be from a working standpoint, from a relationship standpoint, from
1:58:09
Speaker 1: a social standpoint, how important your hygienes are to you
1:58:13
Speaker 1: talk about the hygiene campaign. Man, I was, I was
1:58:16
Speaker 1: getting ready, I was preparing for my annual Turkey drive
1:58:19
Speaker 1: and I'm in the school. I'm talking. I see a
1:58:21
Speaker 1: young lady in the corner and she's crying and I
1:58:23
Speaker 1: go to it. Hey, what's going on? She say, I'm
1:58:24
Speaker 1: miss reel them on my period. I don't have any
1:58:27
Speaker 1: paths of pain lines. So right then I was mad
1:58:29
Speaker 1: at myself when she told me this. I said, what
1:58:31
Speaker 1: you don't have what you need? I was pissed because
1:58:34
Speaker 1: I said, how did I fail not to start this program?
1:58:37
Speaker 1: How do I know how I'm so in tune, But
1:58:40
Speaker 1: I'm not in tune because I missed this. So I
1:58:42
Speaker 1: started talking to I said, We're gonna get what you need.
1:58:45
Speaker 1: From that day forward, brother, I started a female hid
1:58:48
Speaker 1: in campaign. When we collect feminine products for young ladies,
1:58:51
Speaker 1: put them in the school. So now these young ladies
1:58:54
Speaker 1: can go see Miss Johnson. So go see miss Tony
1:58:56
Speaker 1: where they need to go see discreetly and education. It's
1:59:00
Speaker 1: never disrupted. What happens, man, when those young ladies are
1:59:03
Speaker 1: on the cycle and they don't come to school or
1:59:05
Speaker 1: they come to school when they come to school, not
1:59:08
Speaker 1: knowing when it's gonna happen. So okay, now it happens.
1:59:11
Speaker 1: So now kids are talking about you. Your body's shame.
1:59:14
Speaker 1: Now you're not coming to school. Now it leaves the
1:59:16
Speaker 1: chronic absentee of the Michigan ISS top ten in the
1:59:19
Speaker 1: country on human trafficing. If we lose those kids to
1:59:22
Speaker 1: the streets, sometime they never come back. So I want
1:59:24
Speaker 1: to make sure that we alleviate that barrier to education.
1:59:28
Speaker 1: And it's just something simple, man. When I'm go over
1:59:30
Speaker 1: to the hotel's brother, I just came back from my trip.
1:59:32
Speaker 1: I get all I'll order. I get extra lotion and
1:59:35
Speaker 1: and body watch and put it in my backpack and
1:59:38
Speaker 1: bring it back home. And I know I'm running to
1:59:39
Speaker 1: a kid that's gonna leave this stuff. It's not judgment.
1:59:42
Speaker 1: It's helping these young people, loving them pass their pain,
1:59:46
Speaker 1: loving them pass the mistake. Because these kids have been
1:59:49
Speaker 1: on earth two hundred months. They don't know enough for shine.
1:59:51
Speaker 1: They don't know, they don't have out the wisdom. They're
1:59:54
Speaker 1: trying to survive and they just know that when we
1:59:57
Speaker 1: walked to the school building that this is a place
1:59:59
Speaker 1: of love up and empathy. And you've done your job.
2:00:02
Speaker 1: But kid gets the school brothers, they've done their job.
2:00:05
Speaker 1: Rests on these adults because he's adults. And to wait,
2:00:09
Speaker 1: get somebody in there. You want to love this kid
2:00:11
Speaker 1: and see this kid across the finish line. Every kid
2:00:14
Speaker 1: needs a champion. Every kid doesn't have a champion. Well
2:00:18
Speaker 1: you are one, Terence Wheeler. I'm talking to Terence Wheeler
2:00:21
Speaker 1: out of the Detroit area. Have been knowing him a
2:00:22
Speaker 1: long time, and to think about our relationship. Whenever he
2:00:26
Speaker 1: wanted me to post something, wherever he wanted me to
2:00:28
Speaker 1: do something for him, I responded back to him. You know,
2:00:31
Speaker 1: he tells you the truth. Now I don't care. I
2:00:33
Speaker 1: never was too big not to respond back to his nails.
2:00:35
Speaker 1: And I only have one phone number one through I
2:00:38
Speaker 1: only got one phone in my whole life. And they
2:00:40
Speaker 1: started selling cell phones. I got my cell phone number
2:00:43
Speaker 1: and they've never changed the Terrence. Okay, and so and
2:00:47
Speaker 1: and and so so. The final program of many programs,
2:00:50
Speaker 1: and we're just talking about three of them on this
2:00:51
Speaker 1: show is the All Star give Back Turkey Drive. We
2:00:54
Speaker 1: all know when you said Turkey Drive gotta be in
2:00:56
Speaker 1: no fim because I'm man with Steve Harfen. Now you
2:00:59
Speaker 1: give out them turkeys, black people, the crows and turkeys. Man,
2:01:05
Speaker 1: you want to make a black person? Yes, yes, yes, yes,
2:01:10
Speaker 1: yes true man. Um. We So when I was me,
2:01:14
Speaker 1: my mother back in her days of addiction, uh, in
2:01:17
Speaker 1: the food supply line, Man, I focus hope and I said,
2:01:21
Speaker 1: one day I'm gonna be able to give back turkeys. Uh.
2:01:23
Speaker 1: And so me and Derek Covian we started man with
2:01:26
Speaker 1: two hundred turkeys twenty two years ago and now we're
2:01:30
Speaker 1: doing five thousand turkeys for all the trimmings for Sean.
2:01:33
Speaker 1: We talked about we got they get two Kansas, about
2:01:36
Speaker 1: the mac and cheese, stalk dressing and Jiffy mix in
2:01:39
Speaker 1: a twelve fifteen pound bird. But what we've done is
2:01:42
Speaker 1: also we've bamped it a little bit from now. I've
2:01:44
Speaker 1: got health in human services because once again, those same
2:01:47
Speaker 1: people are in line for a turkey, may need some
2:01:50
Speaker 1: assistance with their utility bill, may need some assistance with
2:01:53
Speaker 1: their Rennis assistance, and so we have those agencies there
2:01:56
Speaker 1: as well. So now it's the full wraparound services can
2:02:00
Speaker 1: bide some reprieve for those families. Man, and so it's
2:02:03
Speaker 1: just one of the best days of my life for
2:02:05
Speaker 1: that happened. This is the seed A family come in
2:02:07
Speaker 1: with so much despair and hopeless and we give him
2:02:10
Speaker 1: a good word. Matthew twenty five and thirty five four
2:02:12
Speaker 1: was hungry and you gave me something real simple. This is,
2:02:15
Speaker 1: by far, I can say it humbly, the best turkey
2:02:18
Speaker 1: drive in that country. I gave out some turkeys, not terce.
2:02:24
Speaker 1: Now you're talking about you, y'all gave me, man, Come on,
2:02:27
Speaker 1: in fact, it is up, Mr. We leave, Mr Coleman. Mr.
2:02:30
Speaker 1: We not call you about your last name, okay, d C. Okay,
2:02:36
Speaker 1: because you're about to make me make a donation. Here, brother,
2:02:39
Speaker 1: I'm popping up in my chail the terence we at
2:02:41
Speaker 1: d C. Turkey, don't do turkey, give it away now, Okay,
2:02:46
Speaker 1: we're gonna go back. We're gonna go back. But I'm
2:02:48
Speaker 1: talking about rave five four three to one rat yes, yes, yes,
2:02:55
Speaker 1: yes and so and so because I because I tell
2:02:58
Speaker 1: everybody about it again slow it down is in the
2:03:01
Speaker 1: Detroit area. Okay, it's called the All Star Give Back
2:03:04
Speaker 1: Turkey Drive. My board Derrick Coleman been doing it for
2:03:07
Speaker 1: twenty two years. I swear to you, d C. He's
2:03:10
Speaker 1: six nine and a half, cooler young brother I ever
2:03:13
Speaker 1: met in my life. That's why I met him. That's
2:03:15
Speaker 1: why I met Terence right there, you know. And they
2:03:18
Speaker 1: were always about the calls. They were always about being entrepreneurs.
2:03:23
Speaker 1: They were all about the community because I want to
2:03:24
Speaker 1: tell people, you can't have a customer there. They usually
2:03:28
Speaker 1: having customers, the future customers, future lard, the future, branding,
2:03:32
Speaker 1: future taxpayers. That's what it helps. That's what happens. You
2:03:34
Speaker 1: help people in the community. And that's what I don't
2:03:37
Speaker 1: understand racism. It's racism. Just stop then this country being
2:03:40
Speaker 1: better because guess what the community of these better. If
2:03:43
Speaker 1: the community is better than mean, we have more better
2:03:45
Speaker 1: qualified workers. I mean, we have better qualified taxpayers, we
2:03:49
Speaker 1: have better qualified cities. And that's where racism stops. And
2:03:53
Speaker 1: that's what you're battling on, what you're changing. And so
2:03:55
Speaker 1: they All Star Turkey Drive, get Back Turkey Drive starts win.
2:04:00
Speaker 1: It's uh, it's always it's always that Tuesday before Thanksgiving
2:04:04
Speaker 1: and give back because every person is all start from
2:04:08
Speaker 1: down the to the CEO. I'm talking up man. You
2:04:10
Speaker 1: got we got whites, we got black, We've got me Mexicans,
2:04:13
Speaker 1: We've got Asians, young and old. In line. We're not
2:04:17
Speaker 1: here to judge anybody. We're here to serve. And that's
2:04:20
Speaker 1: the key. You serving people and saying, listen to mars
2:04:23
Speaker 1: gonna be a better day. You can make it, giving
2:04:25
Speaker 1: them some hope, letting them know they can conquer adversity.
2:04:28
Speaker 1: Refused to be average. Average is a bad word. Average
2:04:31
Speaker 1: means you the top of the bottom. Mediaki is a
2:04:33
Speaker 1: bad word. Let's be great, Let's be phenomenal. I believe
2:04:37
Speaker 1: in you. Those people leave us feeling better about themselves.
2:04:41
Speaker 1: I hate when people go places and they give it away,
2:04:43
Speaker 1: something free. They ask you a litany of questions and
2:04:46
Speaker 1: I don't know where you're from. Man, probably has no
2:04:48
Speaker 1: diffic I don't care where you work at, I don't
2:04:51
Speaker 1: care where you where you live that man, listen. We
2:04:54
Speaker 1: have enough resources in this country to feed the poor.
2:04:58
Speaker 1: We just can't satisfy the rich. Yes, now, now let's
2:05:02
Speaker 1: talk about this. First of all, I'm gonna make a
2:05:05
Speaker 1: thousand dollar donation to the All Star Get Back Turkey Drive,
2:05:10
Speaker 1: gonna make it. That's that's a lot of turkeys right there.
2:05:12
Speaker 1: That's a lot of turkey. I've done the Turkey Drive.
2:05:14
Speaker 1: I know what the thousand dollars do for you. So
2:05:19
Speaker 1: so when we hang up, I'm giving my email address
2:05:22
Speaker 1: so you can send me the W nine and I'm
2:05:24
Speaker 1: gonna procept that check, get it to you the fine time.
2:05:27
Speaker 1: You know, won't we look what we call? You? Know
2:05:29
Speaker 1: what I mean? Man, you don't call roushan with that money.
2:05:31
Speaker 1: But with that money, that brother is just front of
2:05:33
Speaker 1: me on on the radio shows, podcast play me, let
2:05:36
Speaker 1: me at d C. I let me get what you're
2:05:39
Speaker 1: gonna do to me. I ain't gonna land in Detroit
2:05:41
Speaker 1: be looking over my shoulder, and so and so, because
2:05:45
Speaker 1: these campaigns and your passion, the energy to Back to
2:05:48
Speaker 1: School Drive, the hygiene campaign, they all start, Get Back
2:05:52
Speaker 1: Turkey Drive just to change lives. It all happens in
2:05:55
Speaker 1: the city of Detroit and its and it's not a
2:05:57
Speaker 1: campaign tied the cover color. It's a campaign ain't tied
2:06:00
Speaker 1: to people who need help. And like you said, everybody
2:06:03
Speaker 1: is an All Star and That's why that title right there,
2:06:06
Speaker 1: all stars, not needing people. These are all stars. These
2:06:08
Speaker 1: people are like I said earlier, these are people who work,
2:06:11
Speaker 1: these people who have families, These are taxpaying people. These
2:06:14
Speaker 1: are the people who are underserved when it came to
2:06:16
Speaker 1: the ponent the pandemic, hitting the pandemic with just COVID
2:06:19
Speaker 1: eighteen and the Cares Act didn't come through. Now this
2:06:22
Speaker 1: whole struggle, they really need us. That's why I'm making
2:06:24
Speaker 1: this thousand dollar donation to you because right now, you
2:06:28
Speaker 1: know they suspending evictions to the thirty first. You know
2:06:31
Speaker 1: the thread of dollar check that they were passing out
2:06:33
Speaker 1: that ended weeks ago and so and now they see
2:06:36
Speaker 1: sitting around with debating if they're gonna renew another CARES
2:06:38
Speaker 1: that campaign. So I'm I'm gonna help as much as
2:06:42
Speaker 1: I can, and you do it on a daily Brasis.
2:06:45
Speaker 1: This is your mission in terms I said, I'm proud
2:06:47
Speaker 1: of you, brother, and again I will be bringing you
2:06:50
Speaker 1: back on the show. And no rumble, okay, And that
2:06:52
Speaker 1: probably probably that that week before the twos that you
2:06:56
Speaker 1: give away we're gonna we're gonna come back on the air,
2:06:58
Speaker 1: and we're gonna come back on the air man, and
2:07:00
Speaker 1: I promise you, brother, but I say it is the
2:07:03
Speaker 1: truth because I just love your tone and uh and
2:07:06
Speaker 1: I just love how you've grown man as a spokesperson. Uh,
2:07:09
Speaker 1: your your articulation is like on, it's fired. They they
2:07:14
Speaker 1: ain't on. It was always on, but now it's fired.
2:07:16
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And because you got a legacy,
2:07:19
Speaker 1: see if you can you see back then you're still
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Speaker 1: like putting everything together, which was really great. But now man,
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Speaker 1: you've got a history walking up to people. People know
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Speaker 1: your your resume. I always tell people when you're hype
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Speaker 1: and the things you you've written down meet each other.
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Speaker 1: Then guess what You're now living the life that you're
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Speaker 1: supposed to live. And that's what you're doing right now
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Speaker 1: on terrans with Man, thank you so much for something.
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Speaker 1: It's uh, nothing but love. Man. When I when I
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Speaker 1: when I see the things you're doing. Man, I say,
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Speaker 1: every time I'm watching a rerun on BAT or something,
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Speaker 1: and then it comes from the screen manager skills my
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Speaker 1: heart with joy because you never you never like you
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Speaker 1: know it was too big or never not have enough
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Speaker 1: time to give a word. Man, talking to my good friend,
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Speaker 1: my mom, my middle school Buddy Monty. You know, so
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Speaker 1: when Kahan was popping off in and just that whole
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Speaker 1: mentorship that you gave him. Man. Uh, it's just we
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Speaker 1: need older brothers who are not afraid to pour into
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Speaker 1: us because you know, that's how that's how legacy start,
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Speaker 1: that's how generational wealth start, that's how we keep this
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Speaker 1: chain going. When we have a person of wisdom to
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Speaker 1: give it to a young person, I'll give it to
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Speaker 1: somebody else. You gotta rope, I got a ladder. Let's go, man,
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Speaker 1: Let's help people. Uh. And so man, I'm just uh,
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Speaker 1: I'm just honored man to be sitting here man talking
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Speaker 1: to you, brother, because I know you know a lot
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Speaker 1: of people, a lot of people could be on this show,
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Speaker 1: and I'm just a small vessel and honor and humble
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Speaker 1: to be here. Brother, My brother, you know you're always
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do my thing. And by the way, and
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Speaker 1: He had we had his coat and I saw a
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Speaker 1: coach and I text us to tell you I need
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Speaker 1: that blue coat right there. So this week next week
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Speaker 1: I'm getting the coat from Talan because I've been I've
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Speaker 1: been mentoring here. Man. He got back into my life
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Speaker 1: in February. Man, February, I flew down to flew to
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Speaker 1: Las Vegas, and I on me. He said, Man, you
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Speaker 1: really came. But I said, but you asked me to come. Yes,
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Speaker 1: And I just I think the things I do, Man,
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Speaker 1: I just do him. Man, And you know he asked
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Speaker 1: you're gonna cause I showed us but all day with
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Speaker 1: gave us some advice and I just left. He said, Wow,
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Speaker 1: that's yeah, you asked that advice that you have, man,
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Speaker 1: because you have been you know, so many circles. You've
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Speaker 1: seen so much, you know, and so now those mistakes
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Speaker 1: we don't have to make because okay, with Seawan can
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Speaker 1: give us a point on hey, man, go this way
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Speaker 1: now you I'll tell you where to go. You're a
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Speaker 1: show choice. But you have that us in that knowledge
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Speaker 1: that you're passing the young brothers, and so we're gonna
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Speaker 1: receive it, uh and try to multiply to somebody else's life. Man,
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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, monkey God, Man, tell you when you hang
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Speaker 1: He told me I'm gonna give it to you the cars.
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Speaker 1: That's whatever. Brother. But what I don't do, I don't
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Speaker 1: take free. I don't take free. I think I put
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Speaker 1: that drop that check in the mails. It's coming your way.
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Speaker 1: But that's the beauty of you know why I try
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Speaker 1: to live my life, Terrence. And like I said, man,
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Speaker 1: you know, don't hang up the phone about the wrap
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Speaker 1: us on everything so we can make sure and just
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Speaker 1: do a recap of what you have planning. And and
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Speaker 1: I'm in your life now, brother, Okay, I appreciate it. Well,
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Speaker 1: I always been in your life, but I'm really in
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Speaker 1: Your your elevator in terms of your knowledge, man, your
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Speaker 1: last November, I surprised the whole Kelly Clarkson's staff, including
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Speaker 1: she was stunned. She was she couldn't believe. You know,
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