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Rushion Interviews Executive Chef Liz about Walmart and Creamalicious Controversy| Bobby Brown & Alicia Etheredge on family, music, legacy, and A&E Network Projects! · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: is an award entertainer, producer, entrepreneur, and arthur and A
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  Speaker 1: Lisa Ridge Brown. She is an entrepreneur, his manager and producer.
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  Speaker 1: Together their partners in Brown Ribbon Entertainment, they serve as
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  Speaker 1: executive producers on two new TV projects airing on the
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  Speaker 1: A E Network. Biography Bobby Brown and Bobby Brown. Every
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  Speaker 1: Conversations Masterclass. The very Talented duo, A power couple Bobby
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  Speaker 1: Brown and Alicia et Rich Brown. Welcome to Money Making
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  Speaker 1: Conversation Abouster Class. Hello Sean having us. You know, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what I want to see, Bobby. You know
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  Speaker 1: I would like to keep that energy up. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it's about energy with you. Man. When the last time
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  Speaker 1: we connected was such a circulars sixty years ago, had
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  Speaker 1: the season and out there, I took away two packs
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  Speaker 1: ticket home, dropped it on me some chicken and brother,
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  Speaker 1: it was good man, it was really really good. Brother.
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  Speaker 1: But this this whole series, Alicia, when you talk about it,
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  Speaker 1: because you serving as one of the executive producer, you
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  Speaker 1: mentioned how your relationship, how you have met and how
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  Speaker 1: I played out along the way. Now you have a
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  Speaker 1: very successful not only a marriage as a loving couple,
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  Speaker 1: but a business couple. How does that work in this
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  Speaker 1: world because you're also managing as well. Talk to us
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  Speaker 1: right quick? Yeah, I think, um, you know, positive relationships
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  Speaker 1: are important. And when Bobby and I started working together first,
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  Speaker 1: we uh just fit perfectly on like he was talented
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  Speaker 1: with and what I could execute for him. So the
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  Speaker 1: management side kind of worked real uh seamlessly, which is
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  Speaker 1: very nice, you know. Obviously than getting into our personal relationship.
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  Speaker 1: We just have to find balance. Like everything in life,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we have to respect one another as individuals.
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  Speaker 1: We have to um uh support one another, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: you have to find that balance, which is important when
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  Speaker 1: you have home life and work life. But it's been
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  Speaker 1: a natural progression for us to start businesses together, the
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  Speaker 1: Bobby Round foodline as you mentioned, you know, and um
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  Speaker 1: a lot of the projects that Bobby handles. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we do everything together. We um bring our best tools
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  Speaker 1: to the game, and we are teammates. That's really how
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  Speaker 1: it works. Well, you know, we're not a key words,
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  Speaker 1: she was saying continually in her conversation that she spoken
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  Speaker 1: was balance, and Bobby, the word balance I think in
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  Speaker 1: this four episode is I think a term that really
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  Speaker 1: fit you. Felt like he was always trying to find
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  Speaker 1: your balance, your place. You know, we won't talk for
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  Speaker 1: a minute. It was just not a quick interview, but
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  Speaker 1: let's let's talk about that balance. Especially the first episode
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  Speaker 1: talks about where you grew up and then as you
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  Speaker 1: went through life finding your manhood. Just talk about it.
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  Speaker 1: And then she says management, which we know it. Early
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  Speaker 1: on you were, like all of you guys were taking
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  Speaker 1: advantage of as kids because there was no balance. Talk
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  Speaker 1: about that, Bobby. Well, in the beginning of my career,
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  Speaker 1: of course, Um, with new addition, there were you know,
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  Speaker 1: five eagles, you know who you know wanted to go
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  Speaker 1: a certain direction, wanted to be a certain way. And
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  Speaker 1: that's where I had to find myself, where where I
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  Speaker 1: fit in in the group and where I fit in
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  Speaker 1: in life period. Um with me, I I I I
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  Speaker 1: tend to um judge myself a little harshly, uh, because
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  Speaker 1: of because of the difficulties I've had when as I
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  Speaker 1: was growing up. But um, you know, learning to love
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  Speaker 1: myself and learning to treat myself with respect and learning
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  Speaker 1: to treat others with the same respect. UM. I think
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  Speaker 1: has helped me uh progress in in in in in
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  Speaker 1: a major way, in a major has allowed me to
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  Speaker 1: look at the series that was very honest I felt,
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  Speaker 1: and and as you sat there, there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: reflection I felt in this series. And you know, I know,
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  Speaker 1: I know they're very moments of that reflection. But can
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  Speaker 1: you tell us a couple of moments and that reflection,
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  Speaker 1: because it's like writing a book, and you know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking with Lizzy. You know, we're writing a book.
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  Speaker 1: You start remembering things when they come back and go, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I forgot to say this. Did you leave it all
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  Speaker 1: on the table, Bobby, or you said I should have
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  Speaker 1: added this? No, we left it all all the time.
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  Speaker 1: This became very therapeutic. Yes, yes, to get everything out
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  Speaker 1: and get the cobwebs out and and be able to
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  Speaker 1: move forward with life on on my terms, you know,
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  Speaker 1: on good terms. UM was everything for me. I also
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  Speaker 1: think that timing is everything, you know, for us in
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  Speaker 1: our lives, and this was the perfect time for this
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  Speaker 1: documentary to be uh to come to light. UH. It's
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  Speaker 1: been approached to us before and we have considered doing
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  Speaker 1: it as well as the series. But timing is everything
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  Speaker 1: in life, you know. Obviously Bobby has gone through, our
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  Speaker 1: whole family has gone through quite a bit of loss
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of highs and some lows that are major.
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  Speaker 1: But it's really where you are and figuring out where
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  Speaker 1: you're going right and everything is not always for right now.
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  Speaker 1: You have to really know when the timing is aligned
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  Speaker 1: you and I think for Bobby, like he mentioned, this
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  Speaker 1: was very therapeutic for all of our family and for
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  Speaker 1: him to express his emotions and touch upon things that,
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  Speaker 1: like you said, you may have forgotten, but then you'll
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  Speaker 1: remind you real quick and it takes you right back there,
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  Speaker 1: you know. I wish it had added. It was a
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  Speaker 1: very fun bonent that Bobby and I had. What it
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  Speaker 1: was it the Neighborhood Awards called the Hoodia Wards in
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  Speaker 1: Vegas in Vegas, and we kept saying that. Steve Harvey said, Man,
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  Speaker 1: you think Bobby gonna jump on that car? I said,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Bobby with because we were at the front
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  Speaker 1: of the stage there was a Ford car that was
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  Speaker 1: our title sponsor, our title sponsor, you know, and and
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  Speaker 1: everybody we've done this show for sixteen years. Nobody has
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  Speaker 1: ever jumped on the car. That's who jumped on the car,
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  Speaker 1: Bobby Brown for the place lost their mind, Bobby. But
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  Speaker 1: that's how you were, man. You always took it and
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  Speaker 1: this and I'm smiling because I was laughing so hard
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  Speaker 1: and back and then my sponsor Ford came up. They go,
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  Speaker 1: is he standing on our car? Go yeah, yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: the crowd going crazy and she said, yeah, that's that's
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  Speaker 1: good Brandy. That's good Brandon. So but that's that's what
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  Speaker 1: you That's that's who you are, man. You are a
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  Speaker 1: guy who pushes it to the edge but still understands
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  Speaker 1: respects that there's this is about entertainment, correct, Yes, it is.
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  Speaker 1: It's always about entertainment with me. Um, That's that's what
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  Speaker 1: I've always dreamed. That's what I dreamed of, was being
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  Speaker 1: the greatest entertainer. I've watched people like Sammy Davis and
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  Speaker 1: Michael Jackson and Presley um and and just made myself,
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  Speaker 1: you know, try to conform myself into all three of
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  Speaker 1: those individuals, you know, um and through a little Rick
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  Speaker 1: James and Prince in there with him. But entertainment is
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  Speaker 1: everything for me, man. You know, Um, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: where I'd beat without as as well as I guess
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  Speaker 1: you could say a little hip gyration from Elvis Presley
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  Speaker 1: because them hips them hips with gyrade brother. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's what at least he was. I was looking
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  Speaker 1: at this dude, I said, his boy either gona. He
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  Speaker 1: didn't break his back, he didn't break his step, he
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  Speaker 1: didn't throw his show out of whack because you are
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  Speaker 1: just a gyrating food. Bobby Brown, listen, I can I
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  Speaker 1: can attest that it is something in the blood because
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  Speaker 1: little stunt cashes can shake his hips still, so it's natural.
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  Speaker 1: You know you toured with There was a moment in
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  Speaker 1: the Doctor talked about Rick James where you were sitting
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  Speaker 1: on the side and that kind of like and like
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  Speaker 1: you said, you you you saw a guy who took
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  Speaker 1: it to the edge. You guy left it on the stage.
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  Speaker 1: You who who was irreverence in his reaction to what
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  Speaker 1: you thought of him. He's gonna tell you what he
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  Speaker 1: thinks of himself. And then projected in his performances. What
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  Speaker 1: impact did Rick havill you? Because you mentioned his name, Ria,
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  Speaker 1: Michael Jackson, things like these impactful talents. But Rick James
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  Speaker 1: is particularly mentioned in the Doctorseries. Yes, Rick James played
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  Speaker 1: a major part in my life just from being being, um,
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  Speaker 1: a solid, solid Chad. He was a solid, you know
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  Speaker 1: individual that that taught me most of most of what
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  Speaker 1: I know about entertaining, about being on stage, about you know, showmanship,
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  Speaker 1: about being thankful for what I have you know in
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  Speaker 1: the history. Um, he was just a really good mentor
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  Speaker 1: absolutely and your thoughts on that, Alicia, Yeah, I also
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  Speaker 1: feel that he was very important in his transition from
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  Speaker 1: a boy band to a solo artist. That was very major.
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  Speaker 1: And that's when Bobby really owned the stage and owned
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  Speaker 1: that because he wanted to be something different than what
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  Speaker 1: we knew him in New Edition. He really became Bobby Brown.
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  Speaker 1: You know, that was an important time for him. And
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  Speaker 1: I know Rick James was um very imperative at that time.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what we was talking talking about the word balance, balance,
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  Speaker 1: finding who you are. But you're a young man. You
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  Speaker 1: would like to say you got discovered, and you know
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  Speaker 1: it was more important when that two fifty dollars than
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  Speaker 1: getting a contract when you got discovered about more restar
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  Speaker 1: because that's the life, that's the poverty level or the
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  Speaker 1: lifestyle level that you were living at that time. Where
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  Speaker 1: is to show me the money versus the opportunity. That
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  Speaker 1: was a balance. And then as you you know, I
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  Speaker 1: love every time Ricky Bell was interviewed, he always called
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  Speaker 1: you Bob, and everybody was saying, Bobby, I know he
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  Speaker 1: is Bobby Brown. He called you Bob. Talk about the
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  Speaker 1: relationship that you have with those young men, Bob, as
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  Speaker 1: Ricky Barrell always called you the relationship that I have
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  Speaker 1: with my brothers or something. So um, they are they are.
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  Speaker 1: They're just there. You know, They're always there for me
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  Speaker 1: and each time I need them. They they've been there,
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  Speaker 1: you know, through my ups and downs. You know, they
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  Speaker 1: don't judge me. You know, they just they just solid.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they just they believe in what I believe in,
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  Speaker 1: and that's truth and honesty. Well they did judge you
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  Speaker 1: one time. That was in the Oka and Oakland and
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  Speaker 1: that's when all Oakland was was the show where uh
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  Speaker 1: new edition within different directions. But I think that when
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  Speaker 1: you're doing something, and I've been there to team and say,
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  Speaker 1: you know you're doing something is yeah, you're making money,
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  Speaker 1: but you're frustrated when you wake up in the morning,
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  Speaker 1: when you go to sleep, or you being we always
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  Speaker 1: tell people is that you can make money being somebody else,
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  Speaker 1: but when you fall down, can you get up being
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  Speaker 1: that person that you are not? And I felt that
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  Speaker 1: that's what you were, That's what you were battling the
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  Speaker 1: whole time. You're just blessed an opportunity, but you could
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  Speaker 1: not be yourself. What was going through your mind? And
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you that, Bobby, and then want you
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  Speaker 1: were sparking because you you got to see it, because
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  Speaker 1: you was in the industry and you got to see it,
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  Speaker 1: get to hear the rumor and then the feedback on
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  Speaker 1: all this was going down. Talk to us right quick, Bobby.
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  Speaker 1: What was going through my mind? Was you know, um
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  Speaker 1: that I needed to I needed to release. I needed
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  Speaker 1: to release all of the things that I was feeling inside,
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  Speaker 1: you know. Um, So me being a solo artist, uh
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  Speaker 1: really was was? It was inevitable? You know, I was
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  Speaker 1: supposed to be a solo artist in the beginning, but
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  Speaker 1: new addition took me to the heights that I was.
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  Speaker 1: I that that got me through the door. Um, you know,
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  Speaker 1: becoming a solo artist was you know, my main goal. Anyway.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's great that you'll see in the documentary
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  Speaker 1: as well. Uh, Johnny. I believe and Ricky and Bobby
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  Speaker 1: are have talking about exactly that when they were younger,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, the things that were being told to
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  Speaker 1: them to you know, make sure Bobby was kicked out
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  Speaker 1: of the group basically because it was going to harm
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  Speaker 1: them instead of embracing Bobby becoming an individual, because this
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  Speaker 1: was supposed to be, you know, just so tight, cookie
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  Speaker 1: cutter kind of tight. And Bobby was going through growing pains.
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  Speaker 1: He needed to express himself and he needed to do
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  Speaker 1: something different on stage, and we're just happy that he
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  Speaker 1: got the opportunity to do it. We'll be right back
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  Speaker 1: with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Now,
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  Speaker 1: let's return to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. Well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the interesting thing about it is that you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm older than both for you too, so and that's
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  Speaker 1: a good thing because of the fact that I get
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  Speaker 1: to see life different in a different set of eyes.
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  Speaker 1: And the new addition when it when the Candie Girl
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  Speaker 1: came out, it's struck positive in my community because you know,
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  Speaker 1: we didn't have we all these little white groups came out,
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  Speaker 1: and when y'all came out and it was like, wow,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it really was a wild Bobby. It really
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  Speaker 1: was new. Addition, was a wild for the black community
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  Speaker 1: because of the fact that you know, the Jackson fives
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  Speaker 1: don't count, they don't count, you know, you know, but
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  Speaker 1: you guys were like me. I was a young black boy,
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  Speaker 1: teenagers and moved into manhood. And seeing y'all talk in
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  Speaker 1: and and and react and move and dance, and seeing
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  Speaker 1: other women that I won't want y'all, that was that
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  Speaker 1: was a lot to take in. But also I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to be, you know, because I grew up wanting to
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  Speaker 1: be Michael Jackson. Then I shifted and I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: be Bobby Brown. You know what I'm saying. That's that's
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  Speaker 1: two totally different people. You turned on a different light
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  Speaker 1: switch for a lot of black teenagers and black grown
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  Speaker 1: men because we couldn't be Michael Jackson. But boy, I
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  Speaker 1: could beat Bobby Brown. He dressed like me, he walked
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  Speaker 1: like me, he parted like me. He did things on
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  Speaker 1: stage and I wish I could do that. Women were
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  Speaker 1: clamoring on him, you know, Michael Jackson, when you know
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  Speaker 1: he was you know, he was knew that he was
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  Speaker 1: just out there the perform. You really wanted every girl
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  Speaker 1: in that stadium to want you. That's a powerful pull, brother,
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  Speaker 1: and I thank you for that. You're so welcome. But
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  Speaker 1: talking about that, because that was a crissipal, that was
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  Speaker 1: like to say, that's a lot of work. I've been
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  Speaker 1: a perform as a stand up command comedian, I've been
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  Speaker 1: in front the twenty thousand people. I know what you
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  Speaker 1: walk on stage, there's a responsibility when you say hello
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  Speaker 1: to you said good night. What do people take away
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  Speaker 1: from you? My takeaway was like, Wow, what was your
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  Speaker 1: takeaway when you was out there? My takeaway was just loving,
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  Speaker 1: loving every moment of I mean every moment of it. Um,
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  Speaker 1: that that was that was my that was my that
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  Speaker 1: was my school, that was my home, that was my church,
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  Speaker 1: that was that was my everything. Just being on stage
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  Speaker 1: and performing from people. Um, I still get a big
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  Speaker 1: kick out of it, you know. Um, it's still something
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  Speaker 1: that that that just just makes me boil inside right
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  Speaker 1: right right, people, at least when I when I when
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  Speaker 1: I told you, when you hear my craziness looking at
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  Speaker 1: this young man here and how he affected me, and
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  Speaker 1: and what are your thoughts? You know, because I'm not
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure I'm not the first person said that. Even
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  Speaker 1: people in the video and the Doctor Sries talk about
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  Speaker 1: celebrities talk about how, you know, how they they saw you.
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  Speaker 1: It was it was y'all, aren't that performing? But they
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  Speaker 1: zeroed in on you and what you were doing, how
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  Speaker 1: you were performing, how you were interacting, your point of view.
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  Speaker 1: I think we should say that very clearly. You had
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  Speaker 1: a point of view. You were just fighting to have
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  Speaker 1: it heard. Absolutely, I agree with what you said. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: obviously I witnessed and grew up with Bobby a new
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  Speaker 1: edition as well, But Bobby always had that star fact
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  Speaker 1: that he came on that stage and demanded the attention, right,
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  Speaker 1: that's something that you know, not everybody has, and he
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  Speaker 1: maximized that. You know, he took that to another level.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you can't forget seeing a Bobby Brown concert
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  Speaker 1: without remembering coming out in his throne, bringing the girls
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  Speaker 1: up on stage and really giving it to them and
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  Speaker 1: really making this a show that you talked about forever.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you talked about it, we still talked about it.
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  Speaker 1: But that pure entertainment gift that he has is wow.
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  Speaker 1: I agree with you that, I mean, when you but
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  Speaker 1: at least when he jumped on top of that forward
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  Speaker 1: car went wow, wow, you people, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: And he just did it. That went wow, And I said,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I got knew it was gonna happen. And
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  Speaker 1: that was a good thing because he gave me what
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  Speaker 1: I expected from him, which is maximum performance, maximum wow.
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  Speaker 1: And that's that's the beauty of what I what I
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: took away. Because there's some really nice moments in this biography.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: I think the most touching was the moment that you
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: moments that you shared with Usher talk about that, the
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: moments with us Um that was really special to me
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: because he's one of the individuals in this entertainment field
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: that I really respect. I really uh. I think he's
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: doing a great job doing what he does best, and
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: that's entertained Um. He came to me when he was
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: just a young young Yes, they showed it too. Yeah.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: I wanted to get out and and and do it.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: And I just just embraced him in moms and and
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: made sure that he he went the right directions as
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: far as you know, his career was concern um. Us
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: is a really talented brother and I'm just glad to
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: know him as a friend. Well, you know, this show
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: is filled with many celebrities because you know bivis in there.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: You know, he's just got his tight T shirt on
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: showing under the arms and everything. You know, like you
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: still coop and throw down and everything. And you know
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Ricky Bell's in there, of course, Ralph trans Van and
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: uh Ronne de Vot. It's just a group. Or then
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: when you when you look at the you know Key Swear,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: that's my board, Captain Sexy in there, you know Ussher,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: you know, Jermaine Dupris in their baby Phace. It's just
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: a lot of other professionals in the industry that commented
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: possibly about you know, we all, you know, we all
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: saw a part of history Bobby with you and when
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: you got the Bobby Brown Way in Boston Roxbury, that
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: is probably to be out of the four episodes. It
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: was a pro found moment for me to see happened.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Tells us about that energy because you know it was
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: on tape, but it was a build up to that moment.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: You know, the mayor was there for you. Yeah, a
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: little black Bart from Roxberry. We're supposed to make it bipolar,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. What it's supposed to be
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: anywhere near there. Um, it was. It was definitely a
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: big surprise. Um for me. We're just going to film,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: you know, we were just going to film Michael Bivins. Um,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, here's this, here's the mayor and
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: all of these people out there to give me a street,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: I mean to for for me to have a street
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: in Boston is just amazing. I mean, knowing that I
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: ran through all of them streets with uh, with some spark,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely absolutely, you know, and putting this all together, Lesia,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: you know, it's four episodes. You know this, It's called
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: the Beginning, and then the career, and then the you know,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: then the Whitney relationship, and then moving to the pain,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: the pain. I call it the pain episode. And when
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: when you talk about that, you know, you you've you've drawn,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: you pulled him out, You've helped them get out of
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: that darkness, out of that pains, you know. And you
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: know because I've seen you know, Bobby, and you know,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: we've been around and I you know, because I was
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Steve Harvey all the time and music and interviewed him
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: setting rooms together and he may not even remember, but
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: I've always been there champion him and believing that there's
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: a better opportunity. He just needs to write people around him.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: And you came in and you all that right person,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: that trust factor, that balance that we've been talking about
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: this entire show, talking about pulling him out of that darkness,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: those dark spaces. Yeah, you're absolutely going to be able
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: to experience that in this four part series of you know,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: all the stuff Bobby has been through as well as
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: from his childhood and moving on and carrying it with you.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: You know, Um, we don't stop and let that pain
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: or work through that enough. That's how you come out
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: of the darkness. I mean a lot of prayer as well. Um,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: but yeah, it's been a journey to say the least.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: But you know when I knew Bob Bobby and back
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Bob Bob in those younger years and you'll get more
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: of that as well in this docuseries. And so watching
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: him grow and become a man and um, having the
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: challenges in battles, you know, you just want someone to
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: be solid by your side, and even if that's just
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: your friend, you know, you have to be able to
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: trust in something and someone or something bigger than yourself.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: And so um, Yeah, we have come through the fire
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: and you know, we see light and we are just
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: living our lives with gratitude. It's just about really being
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: still sometimes and just really living in gratitude of the now,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: because if you live in the past, it's just sometimes
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: too overwhelming, you know. And you'll see the tools that
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: we use to help ourselves. Absolutely. You have two projects
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: here on the A and E Network. This is the
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: biography of Bobby Brown and then you have a reality
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: dr Sears coming up Bobby Brown Every little step. Can
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: you give us some little teasers about what that's gonna
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: be about how many episodes you guys are gonna tape.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Can you give me just a little drop some nuggets
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: on me, miss executive producer. Come on, be quiet, let talk,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Let let me talk think. Come on, Lisa, Well, you
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: know that this series is going to be a twelve
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: episode series we're super excited about. You'll see the first
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: episode right after the docuse series, um a docu documentary,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, on thirty one, So it'll continue now. It'll
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: pick up basically where you see Bobby's life right with
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: myself and our children that live, our three little ones
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: that live with us, and you'll get some insight to
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: the older children as well, which is nice, but how
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: we live daily as a family. You know, there's not
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: enough examples of a black family that have a mother
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: and a father in the house. We just need to
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: see more of this. You know, this is reality because
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: we're just allowing you to see us as who we are,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: and you're gonna see a lot of um. What Bobby
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: does best entertain right is natural state. He's not on stage,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: but in our house we act like it's stage all
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: the time. We have kids that love to dance. You
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: want to say something, at least he want to say something.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Come on, come on, Bob, Come on, Bob, Come on. No, no,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: I don't have anything to sign ahead. I love it,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: but I love it. You know it's different for me
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: in front of the camera. But I'll tell you that
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Bobby is as entertaining as ever, and you guys just
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: love it. It's endearing, it's intimate. You know, it's uh
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: celebrated and uh we don't really we don't really uh
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: you know say anything is off limits really basically, So
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: it's a it's a PG. You know, it's a family
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: uh something for everybody. Well, I want to thank both
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: of y'all. You know again, it's always a blessing. When
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: I talked to YouTube you you're you're so charming, so honest,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: and the four part Doctorseries is a must watch. It's
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: a must watch because it's compelling, it's honest, and also
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: you're part of history, brother, you really are. You're part
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: of my life. You're part of every of Americana pop culture.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: R and b um. If you know somebody, you know,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: I forgot we when you did um. We work together
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: with Beyonce, say and you're Steve. When you was on
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: that that's when I realized you could act with with
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: the with the Cooper Gooden Jr. Beyonce is Steve Hard
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: We did that movie together with you. This brother right here,
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: connect right here, y'all. I have known him a long time,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: a long time. And keep winning, brother and you two
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: and you keep him well. He's supposed to be balanced,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Tolicia because you're a special as well. Thank you. Oh
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: you welcome on, girl. I gotta get him of that season.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Come on. I want to buy what. I want to
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: sign it. My wife loved it, by the way, and
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: I love you. Okay, we got you some coming thank you.
• 27:35
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• 27:40
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• 27:44
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• 27:52
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• 27:57
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• 28:00
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• 28:03
  Speaker 1: sky at Vester Black. He shared how Debbie Allen pushed
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: him into being an actor and what she saw on
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: him what I used to ask for the Rod gry
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: um Ms. Allen was the artist and director and choreographer
• 28:16
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• 28:20
  Speaker 1: you're not And I said, now you're not. That's not me.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: She said, honey, you don't know who you are yet.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: And she was so right from the beginning. She took
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: me under her wing and she gave me parts in
• 28:32
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• 28:35
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• 28:39
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• 28:42
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• 28:47
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• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. Welcome to Money
• 28:55
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• 28:58
  Speaker 1: I recognized that we all have from definitions of success.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: For you, it may be the size of your paycheck.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Mine has inspired people to accomplish their goals and live
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: their very best life. It's time to stop reading other
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: people's success stories to start writing your own. People always
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: talk about their purpose of gifts. If you have a gift,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: leave with your gifts and know let your friends, family,
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: or coworkers stop you from planning or living your dream.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: My next just is truly a dreamer. She's there's a
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: dream in everyge coop. She is the executive chef, owner
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: and founder of pre Relicious ice Cream. Criminal Lisius if
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: you don't know, Criminally in the news a lot lately
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: in a very positive way, but also she wants to
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: respond to some things that have been on social media.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: But more importantly is about trust, and she trust and
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: believes that, you know, there's a just a purpose is
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: what she's doing in her life. I've invited on Money
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Making Conversation master Class to tell our story to get
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: us updated. Welcome to the show. Executive chef Liz Rogers.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: How are you? Are you looking good? Nice to see you.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Where are your based in? What's it the you're based in? So?
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: I'm based here in Cincinnati, Ohio. So I'm originally from Cleveland, Ohio.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: And the whole brand of Creme Malicious, how did that
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: get started? I'm an executive chef and restaurant tour by trade,
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: So Cremelitious actually came from all the desserts that we
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: made homemade inside the restaurant and they were actually just
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: turned into ice cream desserts. So, so when I hear
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: things like slap your mama, you know, uh, you know,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: the corn Poe, the sweep potato pie, all these things
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: are just Southern favorites. How did you manage to create really?
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: You know, because some people have versions of this, but
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: George tastes a little bit different and a lot better
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: than your competitors. How is that? I think it has
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: a great deal to do with me being a chef
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: and Criminalitious is like Disney where the storytellers. Uh, each
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: point is it's very authentic. It's about real times, real people,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: it's about family. Um, it's an extremely authentic brand. Uh.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: It really takes you back to childhood memories just when
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: times were better, you know, when we really didn't have
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: a worry or care in the world, where we can
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: be friends and and we can play until the street
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: lights come on, and you know, just all of those
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: you know, going to church and coming home and having
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: family dinners and and just waiting for the best part
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: of the dinner, which would be the dessert. Desserts always first,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: and it's always the best and it's always the most
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: exciting part about eating. So I think that, um, we
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: really stand out just because each each one of the
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: pints they have a story, um that can really resonate
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: with just just an average person. Now, how did it
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: all start? Because I know, we know right now your
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: social media's blowing up. You know, there's a little controversy
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: around the Waltmont launching another ice cream called June tenth.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: But before we get into that, how did you get
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: in the ice cream business? I've gotten the ice cream
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: business because I love I love food, I love desserts,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: I love sweets, so I'd rather eat sweets than than
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: than regular food. And just really from just owning my
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: own restaurants and just being innovative, I pride myself on
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: being extremely innovative. Cremlicious is more than a dessert. Is
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: absolutely an experience. So we do take fresh bake pastries
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: from the South, um for generations of family owned recipes,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: and we baked them in their entirety and they're combined
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: in the pint. So I really wanted in Alamo pint
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: the best of both worlds. I didn't want the consumer
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: to have to choose. They can have the best of
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: both worlds. And really really being innovative with the flavors
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: and the brand names and where the actual dessert originated from. Uh,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: that was extremely important to me as well too, for
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: it to be a conversation piece. Now, now your brand
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: was out there doing well, you got picked up in
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: other stories besides Walmart, You in Target, you and other
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: stories that are competitors of Target and Walmart, but more
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: importantly Kroger's your Kroger stores. I know, I actually walked
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: were walking down the ice cream and I looked over
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: to my right. Now's how religious as a while you're
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: here too, So you know, a lot of as they say,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: a level brand stores. Which is which is? Which is
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: amazing for a new product? What is? What is your
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: testimony or test us a statement when I tell you
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: you're in these high level stores. And you know, also,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: if I'm missing any stores, please mention them, because I
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: don't want to upset any of your other clients. Yeah,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: we're We're We're in Walmart, of course. Uh, We're in Kroger,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: We're in Mire, Uh, We're in Target, Jungle Gyms, We're
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: all over the country. It's the national brand now. And
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: uh it's been a really amazing opportunity for crem Malicious
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: and the actual brand we have of Um, it's not
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: the easiest being an African American woman and minority ice
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: cream manufacturer at any rate. You know, Uh, cre Malicious
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: is one of the first and only African American ice
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: cream manufacturers and mass production in the world today. So
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: I really kind of set out to do this mostly
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: because I understood that there was just definitely a need,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: there was this huge hole in the category. I felt um,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: that's really overcome by these huge giants that's you know
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: in the world that you know has been here since
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: we were kids. And you know, for me, I you know,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: it's cheers to the underdog. I just want other entrepreneurs
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: to understand that if they have a dream, they need
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: to just go for their dream and not be afraid
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: to take risks and you know, follow your passion and
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: as you always say, lead with your gifts. And I
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: really do believe in that, and I do I do
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: seek that as much as possible to be an inspiration
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: so that we can make room for other people to
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: be on the show as well. But I also know
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: that if opportunities do not come to you knocking on
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: your door, that it's time that we understand that we
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: have to go out and we have to create our
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: own opportunities and to not be afraid to call up
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: some of these retailers and say, hey, could you get
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: me a shot? And if they say no, you gotta
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: keep trying. At the end of the day, all they
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: can do is say no, but they may say yes absolutely,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: and then you have to be ready when they say yes.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: That's the whole key, you know, Like I said, you
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: can jump, but you better to jump with a plan,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: better jump with a little money, and most important to
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: jump with the product to be able to deliver. Now,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: there's a dream in every school because you started mentioning
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: about dreams and talking about people living their dream and
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: reaching their dream and not being deterred when their dreams
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: are being denied. Why do you say there's a dream
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: in every scoop or cream delicious? No, um, just having
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: this ice cream on the shelf. It's it's bigger than me, right,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: it's it's so much bigger than me. It doesn't necessarily
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: mean that you know they're this this it's more than
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: just a pint of ice cream for for people to
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: eat and enjoy. It's the accomplishment of just almost doing
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: the impossible. You know, sometimes people don't believe in you,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: they can't see your vision, they don't understand what you're
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: trying to do. And then everybody you know wants to
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: be around and they want to be with you when
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: you're winning, right, But nobody wants to to be on
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: that bus when it's slowing down. Everybody is jumping off,
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: and then you just have everybody that wants to ride
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: the bus when when it's going fast, you know, and
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: and and there's opportunity and people can see that, and
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: then there's this expiration date, right, so you're you're kind
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: of racing against time and you have to really understand,
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: you know, what it means to have hope. I mean,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: hope keeps us driven, It keeps us in the game.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: You know. You you feel like as long as you
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: have hope, you feel like you can actually win. You know,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: once you lose hope, you're gonna lose, you know. So
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: I try really hard to make sure that I can
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: provide what I need for myself and what I've set
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: out to do, because you only have one life now.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: You started becoming on various people's radar in the top
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: of the year January. I started seeing people free videos
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: of your cremolitions on TikTok and and so it was
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: so you were kind of like I wouldn't say underground
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: brand because you were in Target stories. Was like you said,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: Myers and and the Jungle Gym and and then wal
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: wanted at the time, but then in January it seems
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: like the world discovered you. What impact did they have
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: on your business? Because I think you went in Kroger's
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: in March. Correct, that's correct. Um Croger's extended the brand
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: a lot more than what I thought they would, so
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: that was great. And just trying to keep up with
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: the demand for UM what's going on here, uh, you know,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: just just out here and being compared to I mean,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: like it's crazy because I'm like right on the shelf
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: next to Ben and Jerry Hogendos and Nestley. So it's
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: kind of unreal, you know, but it is happening, and
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: you know, it's it's not as easy to stay on
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: the shelf. You know. We're looking for, you know, support,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: We're wanting to be acknowledged because we do have a
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: very good product. I'm still learning, I'm still perfecting my product.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: I'm still learning what type of marketing to do, UM,
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: sorting out the people that's around me, building a stronger infrastructure,
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: and just really understanding people think that you can't make
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: any mistakes, like you're held to this really really high
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: standard and you don't get an opportunity to mess up,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: you know. But the truth of the matter is, as
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: a business owner, you're gonna make a ton of mistakes.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: You're gonna learn a lot of lessons but that doesn't
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: mean you have to live in your lessons. But I'm
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: in control of the pen. You know, I've I've decided
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: that I'm in control of my own headlines and my
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: own destiny and my own future. And you know, I
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: write my own headlines now. So with crem Malicious, there's
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: so much that I'm learning um in the consumer the
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: packaging goods. But I surround myself by a very knowledgeable team,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: and you can't do everything by yourself when you're when
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: you're running a business. Now, Walmart, they put out an
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: ice cream called June teenth and it it was, it was,
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: it was. It was bad for them because they got
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: a lot of bad publicity, but in some ways it
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: was good for you, very very good talk about that
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Yin and Yang that was happening, because suddenly, like in January,
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: people found you. But for a different reason. Now Walmart
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: has apologized. Let's make sure everybody understay. Walmart has apologized
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: for distributing to the ice cream, and I believe at
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: this time they're removing the ice cream from the shelf.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: But this interview is about the impact of positivity that
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: their fans have found you, how they've supported you so
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: talk about that whole Walmart experience, you know, from the
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: social media, from the fans, and how they have rallied
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: behind you on your social media. And it's almost like
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: if if if social media was a phone, your phone
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: will be ringing off the hook. It has been ringing
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: off the hook. Actually there has and um so many
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: news outlets from across the country that want me to
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: speak on this, and I pretty much had decided, uh,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: how I was going to deliver my message and decided
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: when I was going to answer to it and what
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: climate I was gonna be in. And of course I
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: trust you, you know, with my life, because you're fair
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: and you're very very much right here. Um you're not
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: You're not biased, And it's it's it's it's kind of
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: like you don't go in and and make assumptions about things,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: and you think about things and and and I'm in
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: a safe environment where I can deliver my story. And
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: so I felt really good about how I'm delivering my
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: story and the climate that I'm delivering it in today.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: So that's why I decided to do this one and
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: only exclusive interview with you. Uh. It was very hard
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: because it was very scary because I wasn't really sure
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: how this was going to affect my brand. Um, I
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: didn't know. You know, it could have went either way.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: And and even today, you don't know if you know
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: you're gonna upset someone, or if someone's gonna you know,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: if there's gonna be backlash, or you just don't know.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: But all I know is today I just have to
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: be my authentic self, um and a businesswoman and understand
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: exactly what I'm dealing with right now. And it was
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: a very unfortunate situation. But I think the blessing of
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: it was all of the people out in the world
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: that really supported me. I mean like literally some of
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: the posts really made me cry. I got thousands of messages, emails,
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: letters in boxes, uh, posts, just people just reaching out,
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: just really wanting to be supportive of this brand. It
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: was just like, you know, cheers to the underdog, because
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: I am the underdog, right and I'm I'm cool with
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: that because it's what I know. It's all I know
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: how to do is come back from it and basically
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: stayd my ground. But when you're yourself and when you're
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: authentic and you stand by your brand and your name,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: that's all that really matters, and I wanted people to
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: really understand that I never went through a diversity department
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: in any of the retailers that I got involved with
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: where crem Alicious is being sold. I didn't. I did
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: that for a reason because I wanted to be in
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: the stores for my own merits, my hard work, the
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: quality of my product. I didn't want a handout. I
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: didn't want people to feel like, you know, they had
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: to meet a quota or you know, we're just going
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: to give you a shot because you're black, and we
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: have to have an African American or minority or black
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: woman in the in the stores. I wanted them to
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: understand that my brand is just as good as anyone else's.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: I'm just not as big. I may not have all
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: the resources, I may not have all the capital that
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: other brands have to really really grow this brand. But
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: every day I invest in myself by working hard and
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: investing in my brand and making sure that my brand
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: has what it needs to compete and be successful. And
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: I just really compete with myself. So I feel like
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: everybody that reached out, everybody that was on those posts,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: and the shares and the likes, and and just how
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: they stood up. You know, it just meant everything to
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: me and it really gave me everything to keep going.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: I'm talking to the executive chef, founder owner of Premolitious,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: of Liz Rogers. Liz. Um, there are a lot of
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: room which I want to clear up right now. You know,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: first of all, first rumor affairs that the June Teeth
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: ice cream was a collaboration between wal Mart and Premolitious.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Can you answer that? That's definitely a fosse rumor. Um,
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: I never knew that Walmart was doing a June Team
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: ice cream. I've never given them any recipes. Uh. Our
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: recipes are are red velvet ice creams are totally different.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: I have chocolate chunks in my red velvet ice cream. Um.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: My recipes are formulated in proprietary with food scientists that
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: I personally worked with two crem Alicious. So I had
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: no idea what Walmart did or what they were doing.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: I'm not involved in anything that they do as it
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: relates to the Great Value brand. So, um, this was
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: not a joint venture deal. Um, this was nothing to
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: do with me. So their decisions are just that and
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with Cremolicious. I'm speaking of
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: executive chef Liz Rodgers or Cremolicious. Another rumors that you're
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: going to take your ice cream. You're so mad, You're
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: so mad that you're going to take your ice cream
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: off the shelves of Walmart. That's very fast, um, to
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: be perfectly honest, I've had a very good relationship with
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: Walmart for about a year and a half now. The
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: category manager has always been extremely attentive to me. He's
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: always watched out for me and really has been there,
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: you know, personally. He's always done an amazing job as
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: it relates to prem Militious and the growth of Creme Alicious.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: And he's expanded my brand three times. So that's not true.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: And I'm a businesswoman, you know, I can't just go
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: around taking stuff off the shelf. Um. Whether I agree
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: with things or not, you know, but it has nothing
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: to do with it. We'll be right back with more
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. Now, let's return
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. Now, when
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: you talk about the fans support that that that's what
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: really put a smile on your face, Like you talked
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: about while while the juneteenth ice cream was on the show.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: Fans were out there saying, hey, you got Creeme Milicious
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: on there. You should be supporting now when you should?
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: That's the ice cream that that ice cream was fantastic.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: Now that's the part as a brand, as an entrepreneur,
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: that's all you want. All you want is for your
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: customer to come to your rescue. And sometimes coming to
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: the rescue is by buying your product. In this case,
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: they will not only buying your product, but they will
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: promoting your product. And that's why you're getting these calls
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: over the country and Executive chef List. This has to
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: be in some ways a turning point for your brand
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: because now it's putting it in a different lane of popularity.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: Correct it is, and and the ice cream is selling
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: out all across the country and I'm trying to keep
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: up with the demand. And now I have to find
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: more investors. I guess find more. Um, I just have
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: to keep it moving. And the fans support was just
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: absolutely amazing. But I want people to understand that, you know,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: we're going to continue to need support. We're going to
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: continue to need support to grow and to bring more
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: flavors and to bring uh, more to the to the
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: category and to really make this a huge movement. You know,
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: this is a really really big deal. Was see only
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: African American ice cream and mass production in the world.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: That's really huge. I don't think people understand what this
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: can mean. You know that this could possibly bring about
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: more entrepreneurs that want to get in the source, not
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: just in the ice cream category, but period. You know,
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: there's so many I'm looking at Instagram and there's so
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: many amazing pastry lines and coffees and creamy There's so
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: much that we can do and we can contribute to
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: at this very moment. And we have to keep doing
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: it even if you're not buying a point, tell somebody
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: about it, dedicate support, keep supporting it. Shouldn't have an
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: expiration day. We have to keep keep this going absolutely. Now,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: you said something that was important here now because sometimes
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: sudden popularity can cause a shift in the money that
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: you have for the ice cream that you're trying to
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: put on the shelf. Are you looking for investors or
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: investors should conta act you or we're not talking about everybody.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: Because you are a person trying to expand your brand.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: You know, when you go from two thousand stores to
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: four thousand stores or four thousand stores and six thousand
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: stores and ten thousand stores across the country that is
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: tied in for additional revenue to be able to make
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: the ice cream. Tell everybody how that really works and
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: how you feel about where you're going over the next
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: couple of years with crep Relicious. I'm definitely looking for
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: more investors, but I'm looking for the right investors. You know,
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: I'm very all money. It's not good money, and I'm
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: I'm really not in a situation where i can make
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: any mistakes, you know right now, Um, I have to
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: be extremely strategic. I have to think about the people
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: that I'm allowing to be in my circle. I have
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: to understand, Uh, the investors that I currently have now,
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: they're not multimillionaires, but they're well to do. They have families,
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: and that's I really love that, you know, because criminal
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: Sious it's a generational brand. It is a brand that's
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: going to be around, like Coke or Pepsi. It's it's
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: Disney stock, you know. I remember reading a story where
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: um Walt Disney was trying to do partnerships or get
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: loans from banks and everybody's turning them down. I've been
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: in that situation. I've been turned down so much and
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: just strong along and all the things that go with
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: with raising money, which is extremely discouraging. And then you
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: meet these people that are just regular people, hardworking people
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: just like you, that believe in you, and it grows
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: from there. And I'm a I'm a working owner. So
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: as a CEO, I'm very hands on, I'm I'm very creative.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: I do a lot of product development for national companies
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: that I'm I'm working with now, creating points and I'm
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: very good at um product development. So that's really a
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: huge wheelhouse of mine and it has a lot to
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: do with being an executive chef. But at the same time, UM,
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: just going back to this experience that I've experienced the
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: past week. UM, yes, I'm an executive chef, but I
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: don't cook with politics, and so that's something that I
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: don't want to have my brand involved in in any way, shape, shape, form,
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: or fashion. So that's a really big thing for me
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: as well. So just finding the right people and making
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: sure that I am affiliated with the right persons or
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: person for my brand is very key. Now as I
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: watched on other TVs. On Martha Stewart do this, Um,
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: I guess a flea market at a house US on TV.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: I see, uh, you know, you know Rachel Race US
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: cooking show kind of like talk show. You know, is
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: that something in your future? You're very articularly if you
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: know you you're successful entrepreneur. Are you gonna stay in
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: the kitchen or are you looking a seeking opportunities to
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: be in front of the camera as a motivator, as
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: an actress, as a t the host talk to us.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: I definitely would hope to God that Tyler Perry caused
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: me to be in a movie. I definitely want my
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: own show, I am. I would love to have a
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: story done all my life because my my journey, my
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: life is very profound. UM. When I spoke earlier about
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: the underdog, UM losing everything, UM, watching all of your
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: dreams just be shattered and two a million pieces, and
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: you're watching, you know, all these pieces shattered, kind of
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: like a puzzle, and here you are, You're trying to
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: figure out how do you put yourself back together? And
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: it just starts with one piece at a time, and
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: then you're taking these pieces trying to make them fit
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: and they don't fit into these pieces, and you try
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: another piece and you just keep going until you can
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: finally understand what's your purpose is and what you're doing. Um,
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: my story is is definitely a story of inspiration because
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: you know, you gotta keep it moving. You know, even
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: if even if you fall, you've got to get back up.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: And it's it's it's a big it's a big deal.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: So I'm hoping to be able to get a show
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: and um, be able to read them, meet the right people,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: and definitely get the one that understands that I do
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: have talent and I do have a lot to give
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: back as well. Well, I would say this, I'm looking
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: at the person who's shining a shining star. I say
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: that because of the fact that not only you're saying
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: all the right things, but you're delivering them with a
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: lot of honesty. And when you when when something like
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: this happens because you have no control of it and
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: you had to respond and you had to be frustrated,
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: I'm sure, and now you're the point in your life
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: where you're flipping the scripts. You're turning into something that
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: some people may deem as a negative. Some people might
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: wilt you're showing strength. Where is that strength coming from?
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: And how can you encourage other people who face adversity?
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: Two would come to odds. My strong comes from my mom.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: You know. I watched my mother. She was a welder,
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: and I lost my mom several months ago unexpected cancer diagnosis,
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: and it's been extremely hard. But she was very strong.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: She raised all four of us by herself. She worked
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: as a welder. Like I said, she was the only
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: woman that worked at her her job, and I just
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: remember her just coming home so tired, and we just
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: we just never wanted for anything. We didn't have a lot.
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: But she was very strong and it was like nothing
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: ever bothered her, you know. And then it wasn't until
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: you know, she got sick. I understood, you know, even
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: though she was very hard on me. You know, it's like,
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: you know, I ran track, I played in the Junior
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: Cleveland Orchestra for four years. I write music. I I
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: do a lot. I've done a lot um. I didn't
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: realize how much of an artist I was until I
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: really got into the coon arts. And with my mom,
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: she's always wanted to own a restaurant. She was an
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: amazing cook and because she was a single parent she
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: got she never got an opportunity to do that. So
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: I really feel like maybe I opened my restaurants and
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: went on the path that I went on UM because
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: of her, you know, UM, so that she can live
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: her dream through me. And so this is where we
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: are today. And I just never saw UM anyone disrespect
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: my mother. UM. She always fought for what she believed
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: in and that was extremely important to me and I
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: appreciate that to to this day. I didn't realize how
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: much I would need her strength until some of the
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: things started happening, like with the adversity and a lot
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: of things that's going on today in the world that
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: you don't think that you would have to deal with.
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: But here, here you are. So how do you handle it? Well?
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: My friend and my listeners and my viewers, I guess
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: I'm talking to executive chef Liz Rogers. She's own and
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: found of Criminalists. Is June tenth is coming up, and
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: her ice cream is available, is available at Waltbart. It's
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: available to talk. It's a very it's available to myers,
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: a very jungle gym. More importantly, it's created by an
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: incredible artist that I was fortunate to have on my
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: show to talk about tell our story. The story is
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: not tied to negativity, is tied to positivity, is tied
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: to uplift, and more importantly, it's tied to encouragement. Basically,
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: when you buy her ice cream, when you taste her
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: ice cream, know that you're participating in a dreamer and
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: her dreams is allowing you to know that you too
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: can be successful. I want to thank you for coming
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: on money Making Conversation master Class. Executive Chef Liz Rogers,
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