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- 0:00G'day. That's right. It's that time again. Time for... CINEMA! YOOGEEEAAAAAAA!
- 1:07Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. Cinema Yugen in the age of impossible heroes.
- 1:14One film dared to promise a future without limits.
- 1:18Neon skies, jet-powered motorcycles, warriors who didn't retreat because the good guys always win.
- 1:27It wasn't just a movie, it was prophecy.
- 1:30And for one boy watching in the glow of the theater long ago, it became destiny.
- 1:37While the world moved on he did
- 1:40not through decades of fading celluloid and
- 1:43forgotten legends one name refused to
- 1:47let the fire die bob lindenmeier not
- 1:51just a fan a guardian of myth
- 1:54not just a filmmaker an architect of
- 1:57resurrection for 12 relentless years he
- 2:00hunted the past chasing down icons
- 2:04uncovering lost stories capturing the
- 2:07final words of hollywood giants
- 2:10and rebuilding bolt by bolt the thunderous machines
- 2:14that once tore across the screen engines reborn weapons rearmed history reloaded
- 2:24this is the story of obsession turned heroic of friendship forged with childhood legends.
- 2:32Of a mission so personal it
- 2:36crossed the line into immortality and
- 2:40when the documentary making megaforce exploded onto
- 2:43the festival stage it didn't arrive quietly it conquered
- 2:47because some films are remembered but
- 2:50the legends they rise
- 2:54again now speeder that's his megaforce
- 2:57name speeder returns bob lindenmeyer returns
- 3:00prepare for buried hollywood treasure
- 3:04battlefield stunt stories impossible devotion and
- 3:08the kind of cinematic passion that refuses to surrender feel the rumble hear
- 3:13the engine scream back to life the horizon is burning the countdown has begun
- 3:19and just when you think the dream is over you realize this was never about nostalgia
- 3:25it It's about keeping the future alive.
- 3:28Strap in, hold the line, and remember, heroes don't fade. They ride forever.
- 3:32Here he is, Speeder, otherwise known as Bob Lindenmeyer, the award-winning director of making Megaforce.
- 3:40Bob, welcome back to CinemaHugan.
- 3:43Hey, Kent, how are you doing? Good to be back. Good, mate. First of all,
- 3:47right off the bat, congratulations.
- 3:48Award this best pop culture documentary. The good guys deserve to win,
- 3:53And it's good to see the good guys win again.
- 3:56Congratulations, mate, on the win. Thank you so much. Well, yeah,
- 4:01yeah. Thanks, Film Threat, and award this, obviously.
- 4:04And obviously, you too, because you started that ball rolling and shared my film with...
- 4:11The guys and gals yeah well i mean they as much as they get sent a lot of films they don't,
- 4:18because i come from a more journalistic background i'm
- 4:21always on the lookout for for movies that catch my eye like for instance before
- 4:26we just started talking i see that the local boys the spirit brothers directors
- 4:31of undead daybreakers and predestination we've got a new film called headless
- 4:37which is supposedly going to be a take of the headless horseman in,
- 4:40in a mad Maxian type of admired environment,
- 4:44which excites a living hell out of me, I have to say.
- 4:48So I'm going to have to hunt that one down and get in, go down that road. Yeah, no kidding.
- 4:52Well, let me know. Cause, uh, yeah, that's right up my alley too. Yeah.
- 4:56So yeah, anything, anything that's gets this kind of mad Max treatment I'm interested
- 5:01in because there's, there's more than one way you can go.
- 5:04Of course you can go to the dystopian. we drive around on shitty
- 5:07old bikes and eat people way of
- 5:10doing or you can you can go full fury
- 5:13road and create a mythology and and and
- 5:16do it sensibly instead of just having people dusty and
- 5:20dirty chasing other people dusty and dirty and yes all you need is a quarry
- 5:25and some dry ice and stuff like that yeah right it's just like we can't afford
- 5:29a location so let's go to the construction site exactly yeah some biker gear
- 5:35yeah we'll get some there has been some stand standouts i'm sure i'm sure you're uh.
- 5:40A big fan of battle track oh sure another
- 5:45michael beck film yeah so truck
- 5:48yeah those man those people crap
- 5:51on those movies from a great height but they they sit
- 5:54next to the warm half of my heart and no one
- 5:57shall drive them away excellent it's it's
- 6:01it's beautiful cinema and of course beauty is in
- 6:04the eye of the beholder and i know that it one man's
- 6:07trash is another man's treasure but yeah 100
- 6:10for me for me it's all gold and my
- 6:14wife does say to me lately that she she doesn't
- 6:17want to watch certain films from when she was young because she fears that
- 6:20her her growing cynicism will melt
- 6:23away that magic that she used to
- 6:26have while watching them yeah i can
- 6:29safely say that that has never happened to me i can watch movies.
- 6:32That i loved when i was a very little boy far less
- 6:35furrier and funnier looking than i am now but none
- 6:39of that magic has diminished and certainly in
- 6:42watching your film again last night for god knows
- 6:46how many times there's nothing that has diminished from making megaforce
- 6:50it is still an incredible documentary which we can
- 6:52now talk about in in greater depth because
- 6:55it's out there everyone can see it so we
- 6:58can talk about my one of my favorite parts of
- 7:01the movie and it is brilliantly structured with the hook
- 7:04line and sinker and fans of megaforce will know hook line
- 7:08and sinker very well and the sinker part
- 7:10of the movie is is what i really wanted to talk about last time but yeah of
- 7:15course yeah it was a big deal yeah but now we know about secret vehicles which
- 7:20may or may not have been for sale and and And you went out to the desert and
- 7:25fulfilled a childhood dream.
- 7:29Fulfilled everybody's dream, hopefully, at least yours and I's,
- 7:32yeah. Oh, man, if I could have been with you, I would have. But, yeah.
- 7:37What an ending. What an ending.
- 7:41There's great filmmakers, Bob, that don't know how to end a movie to save their lives.
- 7:48But you landed this baby like you've been doing it all your life.
- 7:54Yeah, I mean, getting right into it, what was interesting is because the movie...
- 8:01You know kind of takes place in in order so you know when i when i hatched the
- 8:08idea to go back to the desert right like i didn't know how it was going to turn
- 8:13out right it could have been.
- 8:16Disaster which would have been good filmmaking also but
- 8:20when you know we spent we went to the
- 8:23desert twice so total seven days
- 8:26out there and the first thing i did
- 8:28when i got back was i spent
- 8:31six or seven months honestly just cutting
- 8:35the last four minutes of the film wow to
- 8:39make sure you know it was
- 8:42right right it was it was so important for you know
- 8:45like my journey barry's journey and everybody in in the
- 8:48film to really stick the landing so i
- 8:52needed to know yeah i needed to know
- 8:54before i started going through and building the rest
- 8:57of the film that you know
- 9:00we were all headed headed towards the death star transit as
- 9:04it were right right yeah yeah yeah it's like
- 9:07back home yep exactly yeah
- 9:10so once all those pieces were in place i was like i was
- 9:13like you know because it's it's
- 9:17shocking like i still you know when i look at the footage like
- 9:20i just can't believe i was out there doing that
- 9:24so yeah yeah and then we just built.
- 9:27The you know my editor editor and producer best
- 9:30buddy felix chamberlain who says hi by the way yeah well done he's a big fan
- 9:35of yours thank you yeah we just work yeah we just work backwards from the end
- 9:41to make sure we could put a bow on it because it's probably the section of the
- 9:45movie where you say there is the most editing.
- 9:48Yes it seems like it seems like it anyway it seems like they're the most it's
- 9:52the most edited yeah because there are so many obviously you had to shoot all
- 9:57those elements and then combine them with visual effects and uh and so yeah
- 10:01and i did all i did all the effects all by all by myself.
- 10:08Here in in my humble little wow so you're one of those guys that did all that
- 10:13magic on a laptop in your garage sort of thing.
- 10:17Yeah, exactly. Awesome. You know, and that was really interesting because,
- 10:21you know, the filmmaking part where you're actually making like capital F film
- 10:30with, you know. Right, yeah, yeah.
- 10:33Scene making and stuff, right?
- 10:36Like that was really the goal as far, right? Because obviously I'd love to make
- 10:40like a sequel to Megaforce or, you know, a push pop.
- 10:44Apocalyptic thing that we're we're talking about and and and again this is my
- 10:49first film so it's my first first time at bat at this and i was just like okay
- 10:55like this is the part where i get to be,
- 10:58the movie maker right the hell right right yeah this is this isn't documentary
- 11:04now this is this is if i got a chance to make megaforce at least a scene here
- 11:09we go yeah yeah yeah exactly and And there were a lot of like stylistic.
- 11:15Choices there right i mean there have been so many great films
- 11:18since megaforce and obviously the
- 11:21you know kind of the editing sensibility and shot
- 11:24selection stuff is a lot more sophisticated now
- 11:27and and again since my
- 11:30journey was kind of trying to replicate as many megaforce
- 11:33things as as possible it was a real education
- 11:36trying to shoot shoot those scenes in
- 11:39kind of a standard 80s 80s way
- 11:43right like done you know
- 11:46not cameras all over the cars and high right
- 11:50right right really wanted to be kind of like flat like
- 11:54metaphors yeah and even the point where the
- 11:57classic coverage instead of like a camera up everyone's bum
- 12:00hole you know like exactly exactly and even
- 12:03the color palette and stuff which we really struggled with
- 12:06in post-production um you know
- 12:10i i would send out screen captures
- 12:13from the original film that were similar and
- 12:16was like okay we need to match the sky we need to match the desert color
- 12:20we need to make sure the vehicles look you
- 12:23know as close to that footage again
- 12:26because that was something obviously i was playing with too was
- 12:29kind of right you weren't interested in creating
- 12:32like the megaforce through the modern 4k lens.
- 12:35You wanted the gauze of vhs in there exactly exactly
- 12:39yeah my colorist i remember i was
- 12:42like man we should put some more like green in this
- 12:45and make it look really grainy and and and look really great and stuff but at
- 12:51the same time it is like it is a modern film and and modernize you know like
- 12:56i didn't want to detract from the through through line there so again i kind
- 13:01of just kind of reeled back a little bit and.
- 13:04Kept it clean you know but there's that kind of big moment at the,
- 13:10at the end where it goes full full cerebral
- 13:14fantasy mode right and the entire color palette
- 13:17of the entire sequence changes and
- 13:21i thought that was kind of like uh all right it's like bob
- 13:23vision now right like this is like being in
- 13:27his head as the fantasy right
- 13:30and then it comes right right this is where the road ends and
- 13:32the fantasy begins yeah exactly yeah it's
- 13:36it is such a sublime ending that
- 13:40yeah look i i i well up a little bit
- 13:42i have to say at the end i you know people say oh
- 13:45you cried everything a bit like kevin smith but it's
- 13:49it's it's look it's touching because i'm one of those kids
- 13:52man i would love to that there's
- 13:55a moment on your face at the end where
- 13:58obviously you break character from
- 14:01speeder and just you're just bob sitting there with a smile
- 14:04on your face 10,000 miles wide
- 14:08yeah sitting next to barry botswick on the back of a megaforce motorbike being
- 14:14trapped being towed at speed with the wind in your hair and the it is such the
- 14:22visual it is the visual equivalent of just utter bliss yeah.
- 14:27On a man yeah well and
- 14:30i mean what's so lovely too is you know
- 14:34to see barry's reaction right he was right there right like he never in a million
- 14:41years thought he'd be right yeah exactly 79 79 years old lashed to a yeah yeah
- 14:48being towed at speed next to a guy who's obsessed with him.
- 14:54Yeah yeah yeah well he really wanted to
- 14:57like there was there were some discussions around you know
- 15:01he really wanted to get back on the on this
- 15:04motorcycle the live motorcycle and actually
- 15:08write it for real and i just in good
- 15:11conscience like i just could not that's an insurance nightmare
- 15:14isn't it no man there's so well yeah and of
- 15:17course since we didn't have insurance and we were you know
- 15:20doing guerrilla filmmaking like you
- 15:23know i literally and you don't have hell need them to
- 15:26double for him either exactly exactly it's
- 15:29like well if we're on live motorcycles we have to wear helmets and
- 15:32he's like well what about my hair that's beautiful
- 15:36i love how he asked that in the
- 15:38film too yeah yeah yeah like
- 15:42i actually strapped him on the motorcycle he gets on the
- 15:45motorcycle and then underneath his jacket we okay into
- 15:48the back of it right right like just right he's a national treasure like i didn't
- 15:53want it yeah you don't you didn't want to make the film that killed barry bontley
- 15:57right yeah that's a different documentary you know that is i mean it would have
- 16:03been good filmmaking but holy cow yeah yeah.
- 16:07Yes unfortunately bob in trying to live his dream ended barry's life abruptly
- 16:11when he fell off the back of a motorbike being towed at speed while one kid
- 16:16tried to relive his childhood.
- 16:19Exactly. Yeah, well, there were so many lovely moments, too.
- 16:23And again, you know, hopefully with DVD special features and stuff,
- 16:29right? Yeah, I'm very excited.
- 16:31You know like at night like we're the only ones in the desert for for this week and just to see,
- 16:40barry hang out around the campfire with all of us right like he wasn't hiding in his trailer,
- 16:46yeah right like it was just the most amazing adventure just hanging out with
- 16:54the man and Yeah, with tequila.
- 16:57A lot of tequila. A lot of tequila. Tequila in the desert at night, yeah.
- 17:04I bet you there were some fireside stories being told.
- 17:07There was a lot of fireside stories, yeah. Yeah, it was great.
- 17:11And he's so sweet, right? He made everybody...
- 17:17Because i guess the crew was about 15 people down
- 17:21there and he made up a bunch of megaforce names and
- 17:23put them in a hat and we all went around the campfire and
- 17:26everybody got their official megaforce
- 17:30name and that's great so yeah he was he
- 17:33was just so so into it and
- 17:35i mean oh my god like just so generous like like could
- 17:39you ever imagine you know meeting
- 17:42warner here and saying hey do you want to come with
- 17:46me play mega force yeah yeah
- 17:49do you want to come and play mega force with me exactly exactly just
- 17:56just yeah i mean it just it's the gift that keeps on giving and the fact that
- 18:00there's there's more to see i'm i'm i'm i'm eternally intrigued yeah i was just
- 18:06talking to richard green who you met probably at the awards yeah i did i did
- 18:10yeah we chat we chatted with He said he's got a lot more, too.
- 18:14So, I mean, oh, God, I see you guys.
- 18:18You're making me wait. I'm sitting on pins and needles, pins and needles.
- 18:22Yeah, well, that's the independent film thing, right? Yeah.
- 18:26Especially with my film, right? I mean, we had to cut interviews of whole cast members and stuff.
- 18:33Stuff just because, you know, again, if there's 38 Megaforce fans, right?
- 18:44Like my school.
- 18:46I mean, you don't have to worry about them. You could give them a four-hour
- 18:49film and they'd be happy, but you've got to worry about everyone else.
- 18:52Yeah, yeah. Well, if it's going to...
- 18:56You know, because the conceit was to kind of share Megaforce,
- 19:00which essentially is a metaphor for just sharing whatever you love with other people.
- 19:06And if you share it in the right way, then you get some real connection with another human being.
- 19:14It's positive obsession, not dark obsession.
- 19:19Yeah. Yeah. It's the nice side of obsession.
- 19:26But, but, you know, look, as you say, it is, it is a metaphor too,
- 19:31for any child of any age that became obsessed with anything that no one else was into.
- 19:37Exactly. And, and it's like Morgan Freeman's narration from Million Dollar Baby.
- 19:42If there's magic, of course, he says in boxing, it's believing in a dream no one else can see but you.
- 19:47And this film stands as
- 19:50a testament to anybody with with said dream
- 19:53that perhaps one day you may in fact
- 19:56be able to hook up with whoever your hero was and
- 19:59go out into the desert and drink tequila and and play megaforce
- 20:03which is you know
- 20:06it's better than a wonka golden ticket in many
- 20:09ways because who wants a lifetime supply of
- 20:12chocolate when you can play in the same play in
- 20:16the same dreams as you did when you were children i mean that's yeah yeah yeah
- 20:21for sure for sure yeah there's so many things about the right because the i
- 20:27mean even the you know the sinker the third act right the you know there's just
- 20:33so many important things like the.
- 20:36You know the sequence with me and my son getting
- 20:40into buggies yeah and just
- 20:43doing that run through the explosions yeah yeah
- 20:46yeah just that one last ride right like
- 20:49you know i mean my goal was obviously you know
- 20:52with the history of my father right kind
- 20:55of changing that narrator for me and and healing
- 20:58with my son but also you know
- 21:02that scene when we were working on it
- 21:05you know we had full sound effects fully buggies
- 21:08room room room and and and the more
- 21:10i looked at it like it was just like it
- 21:14was a really reverent moment for me so i stripped everything out except for
- 21:19the music because like you know like currently like that's the last time those
- 21:26vehicles will ever be driven like that in the desert, right?
- 21:31And so like as a historical and just kind of homage to the vehicles, right?
- 21:38Right it just felt really special and and you
- 21:42know and that's where i get i get teared
- 21:44up it's just so overwhelming to see you know these old beat-up rigs smoking
- 21:53and shaking and and just you know being out there like beautiful right yeah
- 21:59yeah so it's pretty important oh it's
- 22:03It's tremendously important, but it's also, it's also sends a message that as
- 22:08good as artificial intelligence and visual effects and all that sort of stuff
- 22:12may indeed become, and Skynet takes over and we're all hiding in the rubbish and,
- 22:17and we need Sarah Connor to have a baby because he's going to deliver us.
- 22:22I don't think that it's going to
- 22:24overpower the artistic vision
- 22:28inspiration and dreaming of human beings
- 22:31because that bike sitting behind you
- 22:34was made by a person that was by a person for a story thought up by a person
- 22:40that became a movie that inspired a person to make a movie about a person that
- 22:45inspired that person i mean you can't take you can't take people out of the equation,
- 22:51much as the technology may get there and may be there for that fact.
- 22:57We are the ingredients. We, human beings, are the ingredients.
- 23:03The missing secret ingredient to great stuff, I think.
- 23:07Yeah, well, and that's kind of the amazing thing just about the new technologies and stuff, right?
- 23:12Like, you know, I mean, I'm like, I'm a graphic designer, right?
- 23:18For for my career right and and it
- 23:21is challenging right now because people think
- 23:24those tools can solve solve everything
- 23:27and some of them are just insane insanely
- 23:31brilliant but like to your point the you
- 23:35know the the magic ingredients that are
- 23:39actually running the ai as
- 23:43its vision are all built from humanity
- 23:47right like if it was you know
- 23:50if it if it had to reference its own creativity to generate these amazing images
- 23:55like it would not be possible right it can only it can only do that you know
- 24:01kind of on our backs or on our coattails right so you know and in 20 years there's.
- 24:08You know, like it still has to keep coming back to the gene pool in order to create this stuff.
- 24:14And if it starts replicating what it's created, it's just going to lose even more humanity.
- 24:23Right, yeah, because it's just eating itself at that point. You know, it's like – Yeah.
- 24:27It becomes like the poor dude who's lost in the wilderness and he looks at his
- 24:31fingers and they go, I don't need 10 fingers, do I?
- 24:34That's right. You're right. You know, or I don't need two feet, do I? Yeah. Yeah.
- 24:40It's a sad state of affairs, frightening in some areas, but, you know, I think that,
- 24:48that your movie also stands testament to for for
- 24:51a film that really wasn't widely embraced
- 24:54you might say yeah the fact that people
- 24:57are still talking about it and there is a there is
- 25:00a rich fan culture and the conversation
- 25:03about this film is still going on and the
- 25:06fact that al ruddy said that you know it seems like god himself
- 25:09wanted this movie to be made
- 25:12really is is it
- 25:15is anything really it begs the
- 25:18question i think is anything really obscure is it just so far
- 25:21ahead of its time its audience just hasn't really been born yet
- 25:24totally totally yeah it's
- 25:27it's hard well and i don't know if we chatted about this before but
- 25:30like i mean the original megaforce specifically the tv show was yeah yeah i
- 25:37mean you know megaforce was three years too early or three years too late as
- 25:44far as what the culture was looking for in the 1980s.
- 25:49Well, like in our last interview, we talked about how basically the A-Team is like mega-fault. Yeah.
- 25:55Yeah. All those shows are, right? Men on a Mission, you know. Yeah.
- 26:02Yeah, adventures of the week. Or the government or mercenaries or, you know. Yeah.
- 26:06Yeah, yeah. If you've got the money. Or back to like 1977, 1978,
- 26:11where, you know, kind of the naive quality of Megaforce as being,
- 26:17you know, just purely heroic, right?
- 26:20It's much more in line with Star Wars than Empire Strikes Back, right?
- 26:26As far as its tone and presentation and, of course, Howl Needham, right?
- 26:31Like that's what he was an expert at right yeah
- 26:34is is those kind of feel good neat stuff
- 26:37movies and or as
- 26:40you say in the documentary it's it's it's it's so
- 26:43clearly defined it's the good guys versus the bad guys that's
- 26:46what it is yeah yeah yeah yeah
- 26:49and the yeah and the good guys wear the white hats and the bad guys
- 26:52you know he wore black and i wore white and he would always win
- 26:55the fight bang bang you know and look
- 26:59i i think maybe maybe maybe maybe
- 27:02the argument could be made that because it was maybe perhaps
- 27:05so well defined and so simplistic maybe that was something
- 27:08you know people were expecting maybe something
- 27:11with a bit more i don't know complexity or
- 27:14depth yeah yeah well but well
- 27:18yeah i mean that's interesting because like a lot of people even
- 27:21the cast and crew that I interviewed you know like everybody was saying like
- 27:27maybe it would have been better if you know people died or there was some more
- 27:31violence in it or that kind of thing right and I and I totally get that because again right like.
- 27:39You know blade runner mega force and mad
- 27:43max 2 right we're all in the same summer right and just how different mega force
- 27:51stands out yes what everybody else is to road warrior yeah yeah yeah so as far
- 27:59as oh you said road warrior i was trying to be mad max 2 to,
- 28:02respect the original title oh that's cool sorry i was i was trying to be respectful
- 28:08because you're you're you're over in the states and you know it as the road
- 28:11warrior but anyway so that's right in respecting each other we got both titles
- 28:14so there we go yeah yeah um but yeah yeah so i think,
- 28:20yeah i just think that right like you know
- 28:23i don't know if it would have been better with with violence or
- 28:27not like it would have been more in line
- 28:30with what everybody else was doing yeah well
- 28:34it probably it probably would have fallen into that if
- 28:38they had gone that route would have fallen into the the mad
- 28:41max 2 road warrior uh thing that happened in the wake of mad max 2 and the road
- 28:47warrior you know let's get a bunch of cars and desert and have you know chases
- 28:52and shootouts and whatever else yeah in the original script they do kill the
- 28:57french guy at the end of the movie. Oh, okay. Yeah.
- 29:00Yeah. No, but I mean, look, I think, look.
- 29:05You could argue sort of, I guess, probably all day long about what could have,
- 29:13would have, and should have happened to make it more receptive.
- 29:16But I mean, it has been received.
- 29:19And I mean, thanks to your film, and I still believe this, I've said this in
- 29:23all three of our interviews, that this film is a gate, I think,
- 29:27going to be a great gateway.
- 29:29Because if people watch it solely for an interesting documentary about pop culture
- 29:33or the makings of movies,
- 29:35I still think it's a great gateway because at the end of it,
- 29:38you still go, well, if I haven't seen Megaforce, I've got to watch this Megaforce
- 29:42thing because this guy is so richly and beautifully obsessed with it that it's contagious.
- 29:48Yeah, I really wish I could get the analytics on Amazon streaming because the
- 29:55rental numbers for the original Megaforce,
- 29:59have got a quadrupled in the
- 30:01last year since i've been brilliant screening it
- 30:05right like you know yeah that's
- 30:08kind of like that's kind of like maybe not what you're aiming for but
- 30:11certainly it's something that you would have hoped for in starting this that
- 30:14at least it would bring more people's attention back to yeah yeah well i mean
- 30:19yeah yeah like it deserves a second right it didn't get it didn't get its its
- 30:25day in the sunshine at all that summer and And yeah.
- 30:31Yeah like i like i think it's nice to like you know again like you said kind
- 30:36of bring it back and have have people talk talking about it you know we always
- 30:43invite like friends and family to all these different film fest and stuff like
- 30:46that and you know and there's a select group of people,
- 30:50who don't know what omega force is at all right and
- 30:53and you know by the end of
- 30:56it right like i've had three or
- 30:59four friends of friends whose you know
- 31:02wives came right just these middle-aged
- 31:05women who are literally the furthest
- 31:08demographic from anybody who would entertain the idea of megaforce right and
- 31:14they watch the film and they're like oh my god i have to see megaforce and then
- 31:18they'll write me after and be like i loved megaforce i loved it right and that Mission accomplished.
- 31:27Mission accomplished, 100%, right?
- 31:30And I think some of it is, you know, watching my film is a good primer to get
- 31:37yourself in the right headspace to actually be open to enjoying this thing, you know?
- 31:45So, and that's working out really well. Yeah, I love that, right?
- 31:49I mean, that's the power...
- 31:52Yeah, that's the power one can have. It's beautiful.
- 31:55It's Kermit the Frog's Rainbow Connection, man. You found a frog,
- 31:59a dog, and a chicken, and a bear, and a watch and a call it,
- 32:02and they all have the same dream.
- 32:03Exactly. And that dream only gets better the more people you share it with.
- 32:08And I'm very grateful for you sharing it with me.
- 32:11I have two more questions left for you, Bob. The $64,000 question.
- 32:16The car that wasn't for sale at the end, what happened? Yes.
- 32:24Yeah that that was an odyssey for sure so yeah so we're talking about to take
- 32:32you off the spot is it still not for sale or is it it's in my backyard okay,
- 32:40and let me guess you you're not doing it up are you you're not trying to restore
- 32:43it to its original yeah i know i don't i definitely am okay so i figured i i
- 32:50had i had a sneaky suspicion but yes i didn't i didn't want to be dogmatic and say what are you doing,
- 32:59yeah no well it's it's the same right in in some ways it's it's,
- 33:05It's in no worse shape than the other vehicles I restored in the movie.
- 33:11I mean, if you're curious.
- 33:12You get to see, you know, for those of you who have seen Bob's documentary,
- 33:17you get to crawl up inside it and get to examine the guts of it.
- 33:22So how hard was the old bugger to push over to get him to sell it?
- 33:27Was it a big investigation? It was pretty bad.
- 33:31Because he was pretty adamant, like, none of this is for sale.
- 33:35Yeah, well, and that's always been his thing.
- 33:39So, you know, like one of his crew guys up there who was helping us explore
- 33:46the TACOM when we pulled it out of the swamp, I was like, hey, like, so seriously?
- 33:52Like, he doesn't, he's like, no, I've worked with them for 20 years and he has
- 33:57never sold anything. Nothing.
- 34:00But what he does like is trading stuff. Okay.
- 34:05So did you have something that he wanted?
- 34:08I traded one of my two Megaforce Dune buggies. Oh, okay. That's cool.
- 34:13Straight across. Right.
- 34:16So the... The ones that you'd fully decked out and everything.
- 34:20Yeah, that are in the film. So the one that makes the big jump... Onto the TV.
- 34:26Yeah. Onto Roger Ebert's head. That's right.
- 34:29Yeah, we call that one stunt buggy because essentially when I got that,
- 34:34it was just the fiberglass shell of the car.
- 34:37So none of the guts were original so i
- 34:41had to get i i sourced out a vintage
- 34:44sand rail chassis that could
- 34:47fit under underneath it so so that car
- 34:50except for the actual body fiberglass body
- 34:53is all replica stuff i had to build the guns and
- 34:56everything so you know as opposed to
- 34:59hero buggy which is the other buggy in the
- 35:02film that's got the laser and everything like that like that's all
- 35:05original that's the real deal right and
- 35:09and so yeah it was just like
- 35:12what one how
- 35:16many mega destroyers does one guy need you know now that it's served his purpose
- 35:23so yeah he was kind of cool now because now you've got like one of each do you
- 35:27got a bike you got a strong yeah yeah well And the TACOM, that's a unicorn.
- 35:33There was only the one made.
- 35:36Period. So yeah, but it was a real sad day. And of course, hopefully this will be a special feature.
- 35:44We track all that, like me dropping off.
- 35:48The buggy up there and it just goes in his paddock with everything else yeah we're all kind of,
- 35:55especially me right because i built that from scratch like that's the one at
- 35:58the beginning of the right yeah yeah there's like years old yeah from yeah from
- 36:03the nuts to the bolts to the yeah,
- 36:06yeah i've had that for you know 20 years so yeah yeah it was it was really bittersweet
- 36:12but then you know having instead of thinking of losing a daughter you're gaining a son.
- 36:19That's right yeah yeah like having
- 36:23your own having your own tank is pretty
- 36:26amazing i highly recommend it that's awesome for anybody yeah so it's you know
- 36:33i've yeah it's all sandblasted it down got rid of all the rust got a whole new
- 36:39power train for it i found uh i can't wait to uh,
- 36:45to see the finished product i've no doubt that it will be attacked with the
- 36:50same devotion and execution and brilliance of which you have approached this
- 36:55documentary before we run out of time bob i gotta thank you again mate for sharing
- 36:59your dreams with us with the world with making Megaforce.
- 37:04Oh, well, thanks. My last question before I let you go is, did you drink a beer
- 37:09or some champagne out of that trophy the other night?
- 37:11Like I saw Mike Caravella having a beer out of his cup.
- 37:15You know, I was almost going to do that on stage. Okay.
- 37:19I was just so nervous that night.
- 37:23But, yeah, I definitely drank out of my chalice of winning.
- 37:29Well done. Well done. And it's greatly, greatly deserved.
- 37:33I wish you all the very best. And all the links will be in the description,
- 37:38ladies and gentlemen, where you can.
- 37:40Get a hold of making megaforce and make the journey
- 37:43if you don't know about megaforce now's your chance to
- 37:46experience that brilliance that came out a long time
- 37:49ago and join the 38 strong behind megaforce
- 37:53bob lindenmeyer speeder my good friend thank you
- 37:56for being a guest again on cinema thank you
- 37:59wombat much appreciated yeah yeah
- 38:03we'll do it again yes bob lindenmeyer making
- 38:08megaforce an incredible film
- 38:11get down to the links in the description check it
- 38:14out for yourself i can't wait to check out all there's
- 38:18so much more in store on the physical media
- 38:22release get down to the links making megaforce
- 38:25support this film and bob lidemeyer what
- 38:29a journey what a film what a friendship speeder god
- 38:32bless him mate he made the film that all
- 38:35megaforce fans have longed for for so many years
- 38:38and a documentary that you would love
- 38:41regardless of whether you're a fan
- 38:44or not this is the gateway you don't know what megaforce
- 38:47is watch this and then like most people i think you'll get over and check out
- 38:51megaforce get down to the links in the description bob lindenmeyer making megaforce
- 38:57get down to those links now and as always my little eugenites thank Thank you
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