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Dr. Tony Evans reveals the purpose of "Journey with Jesus," his father's faith, family bonding & more! · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: He is the founder and senior pastor of Oak Cliff
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Speaker 1: and author over one hundred books, booklets and Bible stops.
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Speaker 1: He's one of the first African American to earn a
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Speaker 1: has become one of the both twelve most effective preachers
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Speaker 1: in the English speaking World by Baylor University. DC. Evans
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Speaker 1: holds the honor of writing and publishing their first full
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Speaker 1: Bible commentary and study. But African American, that's impressive. Pastor
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Speaker 1: Tony Evans and his family this is why he's on
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Speaker 1: the show. Shares moments from their tour of Israel and
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Speaker 1: the upcoming documentary Journey with Jesus, when they retraced the
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Speaker 1: steps of our Savior. Dr Tony Evers is on the
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Speaker 1: show to discuss this new film and it's in conjunction
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Speaker 1: with Phantom Event Releases. This limited theaters nowhere with fifteen
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Speaker 1: through the seventeen. It is filmed on site in Israel.
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Speaker 1: It's a new documentary. Please welcome to Money Conversation. For
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Speaker 1: the very first time I've had his family on the show,
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Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk about that. Dr Tony Evans, how
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Speaker 1: you doing, sir? Hello, gonna be with you. Well, the
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Speaker 1: beauty of having you on your show because I always
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Speaker 1: try to do a little research first on later. Everybody know,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about Journey with Jesus. I I I
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Speaker 1: called that a visual sermon, sir. That's what was my takeaway.
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Speaker 1: It is. It's the opening and I'm not gonna give
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Speaker 1: away the details of the of the documentary, but the
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Speaker 1: but I can't share the emotion of the documentary Journey
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Speaker 1: with Jesus is that, you know, like I said, you
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Speaker 1: know I was I'm born and raised in Houston, Texas.
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Speaker 1: And when I first moved to New York, I you know,
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Speaker 1: I knew about Broadway, I knew about you know, the
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Speaker 1: It had an emotion to me when I moved to
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Speaker 1: Los Angeles and I walked down and so the Chinese
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Speaker 1: Man Theater, and so the Hollywood Walk of Fame, and
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Speaker 1: then the Santa Monica Beaches. It is so resonated in
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Speaker 1: my life that it had an emotional pool to me,
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Speaker 1: and I went wow, I didn't realize how much it's
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Speaker 1: had an effect on me. And I only say that
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Speaker 1: because being a man who preaches the Word of God
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Speaker 1: and then it shares these blessings and come in some words,
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Speaker 1: allows us to understand these blessings by through your teachings,
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Speaker 1: going to Israel has to have an amazing emotional pool
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Speaker 1: to you. Correct, well, absolutely. In fact, what we're trying
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Speaker 1: to do is get people to join me and the
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Speaker 1: experience that I and my family had when we were there.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you're watching the Bible come off the page
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Speaker 1: of scripture and become a living experience in your life.
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Speaker 1: It's one thing to know about the Lord, it's another
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Speaker 1: thing to experience the Lord. And this this documentary was
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Speaker 1: designed to bring people into a visual experience of the Lord,
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Speaker 1: where he did what he did, where he lived, where
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Speaker 1: he demonstrated his glory where he did his miracles, where
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Speaker 1: he taught his lessons, so that you are entering into
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Speaker 1: the moment and it becomes a dynamic reality rather than
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Speaker 1: a theoretical informational session. Well, you know, it's like one
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Speaker 1: of my favorite shows of TV is Aerial America. You
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Speaker 1: know that show that shows the world from a visual Uh.
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Speaker 1: From that ten thousand square feet high air you looked out,
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Speaker 1: you get a perspective the power of of of of
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Speaker 1: the world that we don't appreciate sometimes. And when I
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Speaker 1: went from the very opening, I went wow, I felt
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Speaker 1: a strong presence to this series. What was what was
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Speaker 1: the story you was trying to tell visually? Dr Tony
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Speaker 1: Evans with Journey with Jesus, because there are two stories.
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Speaker 1: There's an oral story, but the visual story I think
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Speaker 1: played an important role to tell us about that. Well,
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Speaker 1: what we tried to do is combine the sites with
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Speaker 1: the sound. You know, when you look at the TV,
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Speaker 1: you don't just want to hear the hear the sound.
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Speaker 1: You want to picture, but you don't want to picture
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Speaker 1: without the sounds. We want to excite and sound. So
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Speaker 1: what we tried to do with Show Where Jesus was
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Speaker 1: what happened there give you the truth of scripture, while
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Speaker 1: we gave you the visual context of where that particular
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Speaker 1: passage or that particular truth took place. So you're seeing
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Speaker 1: what you're hearing and not just hearing what you're hearing.
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Speaker 1: And so we did that with each of the side. Eh.
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Speaker 1: Many people have never been to Israel uh, and you
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Speaker 1: can't go right now very easily, and so this way
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Speaker 1: they can they can go onto Jesus Journey and join us.
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Speaker 1: As we went on to Jesus Journey, we talked about
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Speaker 1: seven people with us who went on the journey with us.
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Speaker 1: But I thought was, but why limit this the seven hundred?
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Speaker 1: Why don't we film it so people who can't go
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Speaker 1: Heaven gone or need to need to go again can
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Speaker 1: can join the Evans clan in this journey. And so
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Speaker 1: it was an exciting thing to be able to give
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Speaker 1: people what we were seeing and let them see it
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Speaker 1: at the same time we were seeing it. Well, you know,
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Speaker 1: let's talk about that whole journey, because this is an emotion.
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Speaker 1: It was. It was funny when I watched it, you
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Speaker 1: always looked like you were stepping down into something. You
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Speaker 1: was always stepping down, you know. Is that the way
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Speaker 1: just the natural the natural architect or high everything is
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Speaker 1: laid out because you was always going down down, stepping
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Speaker 1: down into into some hollow chamber until some some room
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Speaker 1: or some some some space. So talk about that whole architecture.
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Speaker 1: Dr Tony Evans. Well, of course you have a lot
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Speaker 1: of rolling areas in the in the Holy Land, and
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Speaker 1: then of course in many places they built monuments to
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Speaker 1: what happened or what is believed to have happened on
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Speaker 1: that particular site. And in giving a space for people
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Speaker 1: to gather, they created steps for you to enter into
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Speaker 1: that area. Because over time things have been uh, things
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Speaker 1: have been built up. So this allows you to to
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Speaker 1: to to flow with the topilo feel the land, while
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Speaker 1: at the very same time being at a place where
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Speaker 1: you can gather large groups of people to hear the
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Speaker 1: teaching that's taking place. Uh. Relative to the site and
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Speaker 1: location in which you are focusing on. How many times
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Speaker 1: have you been there? Because I let's heard Priscilla said
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Speaker 1: one other time you win, and when you first said,
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Speaker 1: you came back and just told the family your experience
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Speaker 1: and all that time. How many times have you been
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Speaker 1: to Israel? Dr Tony Evans, I've been there about five
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Speaker 1: times we uh, we leave the group of semi regular
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Speaker 1: basistory throughout National Ministry, they have an alternative and uh,
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Speaker 1: people who want to go with us and hear the
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Speaker 1: teachings and see the sites and so so yeah, this
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Speaker 1: was but each time it's a fresh experience and each
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Speaker 1: time there is new inspiration that comes because you are you,
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Speaker 1: you know, you in the spot, you there, well you know,
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Speaker 1: I know it, you know that, Like I said that
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Speaker 1: when I when I think about it, I remember when
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Speaker 1: I was in New York. I was going up to
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Speaker 1: be a stand up comedian and I came. I was.
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Speaker 1: I came out of the subway of forty two, and
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Speaker 1: I came out of that subway knowing this is what
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Speaker 1: I wanted to be, knowing this the place I wanted.
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Speaker 1: I just felt power. I felt this rush of emotion
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Speaker 1: that wow, I'm actually here and I'm fulfilling my dreams.
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Speaker 1: And so going to Israel for the very first time
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Speaker 1: for you had to be fulfilling the dream as well.
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Speaker 1: Dr Tony Evans talk to us about that very first
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Speaker 1: time because each time you you I see more, you know,
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Speaker 1: because things slow down. But that first time it's all
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Speaker 1: emotion and then you when you get back, you start
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Speaker 1: recollecting and say, I wish I would have done this.
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Speaker 1: Talk about that first time you'll visit to Israel, Well,
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Speaker 1: the first time is exciting anticipation because you know where
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Speaker 1: see and you don't know how it will affect you.
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Speaker 1: But you know because you've never been that it is
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Speaker 1: something to look forward to. So there's great anticipation that
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Speaker 1: first time. So you kind of get hit with a
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Speaker 1: wall bang. You know you can you know, everything becomes
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Speaker 1: an aha moment when you're in the first experience. But
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Speaker 1: it's like studying the Bible. When you go back to
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Speaker 1: the passage that you've preached before, new things emerged that
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Speaker 1: you didn't see the first time you studied it or
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Speaker 1: preached from it. So the first time I visited Israel bam.
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Speaker 1: But now every time afterwards, I'm trying to go deeper,
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Speaker 1: see more experience more so that I can build on
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Speaker 1: top of that first time layers of excitement about who
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Speaker 1: Jesus is, what he did, and what he still can do. Right.
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Speaker 1: You know the interesting thing about because you know when
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Speaker 1: about anything that's historical or biblical. Television and movies have
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Speaker 1: their own versions of it, and so their own versions
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Speaker 1: can be big, overwhelming, and so like I remember when
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Speaker 1: I started, I said, that's not that big. How many
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Speaker 1: people did it get in this little small area? Did
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Speaker 1: any of the any that the dimensions of the size
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Speaker 1: where events were held? Uh become understated When you actually
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Speaker 1: was their live, you went, wow, this is not what
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Speaker 1: I expected, but you still were inspired by it. Well, yeah,
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Speaker 1: number that. First of all, the land of Israel is
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Speaker 1: very compact. People are living very close together, you know.
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Speaker 1: of further than others, but a lot of it has
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Speaker 1: come back. So that that caught my attention. And then
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Speaker 1: when you look at the sites, for example, when we
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Speaker 1: and the archaeological digs came to Peter's Peter's home and
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Speaker 1: doesn't describe Peters house. So then you get to see it,
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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, it shows you how different
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Speaker 1: our lives are the day from what they were experiencing
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Speaker 1: back two thousand years ago. So yes, you you you
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Speaker 1: people together and making things relatable. Is am I correct? Oh? Absolutely? Uh.
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Speaker 1: You know, Priscilla came into the picture. You know, she
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Speaker 1: was that important to have her voice because it allowed
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Speaker 1: her to pull certain emotions, pull certain answers out of it,
19:51
Speaker 1: especially the uh certain areas that you guys were speaking
19:55
Speaker 1: talking about her role in this particular documentary, Journey with Jesus,
19:58
Speaker 1: which was filmed in Israel. Well, her role was to
20:03
Speaker 1: walk with me because we didn't want to have that
20:05
Speaker 1: family connectivity. We wanted this not to be me, but
20:09
Speaker 1: we wanted to show relationally. I mean, my late wife
20:13
Speaker 1: was there. You know, Anthony did the music, So there
20:17
Speaker 1: was a bonding that took place, and so we wanted
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Speaker 1: to show pieces of that as part of the documentary
20:23
Speaker 1: so that people would see our faith is personal, but
20:26
Speaker 1: it should be shared on a familial level. And so
20:31
Speaker 1: uh so she likes to talk. No, no, you don't
20:35
Speaker 1: like she got it from doc. I got it from
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Speaker 1: your doc. Come on, I got it from you. Apple
20:42
Speaker 1: doesn't fall froll from the tree. What can we say,
20:44
Speaker 1: alec I say, it's a beautiful thing. Now, this whole process,
20:48
Speaker 1: and I just want to be um. I wanted to
20:50
Speaker 1: have fun with this interview. I wanted to be how
20:53
Speaker 1: it's gonna be an honest interviecause that's how you roll.
20:56
Speaker 1: But more importantly, you get to see if the Bible
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Speaker 1: come to life. I am I saying that accurately about
21:03
Speaker 1: this journey. The Bible is not just the word about God.
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Speaker 1: It is the voice of God in print. But whenever
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Speaker 1: the verbal can become visual sever you can see what
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Speaker 1: you're learning, it then establishes itself in your mind and
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Speaker 1: heart at a deeper level. So we wanted to help
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Speaker 1: the Bible to become alive in the experience of the
21:26
Speaker 1: of the reader by giving them a visual to go
21:30
Speaker 1: alongside with the verbal. I'm gonna ask you a question.
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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe it is. It's a thing about finding yourself,
21:39
Speaker 1: you know, Like I always tell people are all my life,
21:41
Speaker 1: Dr Tony EVAs, People always said I was special, I
21:44
Speaker 1: was unique. I was and I really didn't understand what
21:47
Speaker 1: they was talking about that And I always tell people
21:49
Speaker 1: went into my authorities that I recepted, I accepted responsibilities
21:53
Speaker 1: of being who I was. Sean McDonald. Things that would
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Speaker 1: happen if we wasn't luck. It was tied to hard work.
21:59
Speaker 1: It was tied to you know, understanding to value my responsibilities.
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Speaker 1: I found out who I was and I started to
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Speaker 1: live my life. Can you answer this question, this is
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Speaker 1: the question that can't be answered. What do you think
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Speaker 1: Jesus realized he was Jesus? Well, you have to you
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Speaker 1: have the dynamic of what we call the theology the
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Speaker 1: hypostatic union, which is two natures in one person, unmixed forever.
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Speaker 1: So Jesus went through the natural growth. The Bible says
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Speaker 1: he grew in statue and grew in learning. So that
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Speaker 1: was the human growth of his humanity like any child
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Speaker 1: would have, but it was married to deity. So you
22:43
Speaker 1: have two things always happening at the same time in
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Speaker 1: the life of Jesus. Natural humanity perfectly developing, while deity
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Speaker 1: is forever formed. So both are happening at the same time.
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Speaker 1: Because his nature is ever got mixed. They stayed distinct
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Speaker 1: but within the same person. Wow, and you're go Indeed, Well,
23:10
Speaker 1: all I was saying is that when you go on
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Speaker 1: the journey with Jesus, this documentary, they're gonna be in
23:14
Speaker 1: the theatre fifteen through seventeen They're gonna be a whole
23:17
Speaker 1: lot of people walking at that theatery thinking deep sir,
23:20
Speaker 1: because I'm obolt. You never tell you why, because you know,
23:24
Speaker 1: I the popularity of my show is that I just
23:27
Speaker 1: do real natural interviews. I have no agenda. I'm learning.
23:30
Speaker 1: I asked questions. I think that everybody wants to ask
23:33
Speaker 1: questions when they sit down and talk to you, just
23:35
Speaker 1: like I said when when the Jesus realized he was Jesus.
23:37
Speaker 1: Because it's through life, you know, we always try to
23:40
Speaker 1: come to a point where we have to accept the
23:42
Speaker 1: responsibility for what we who, what we are. And when
23:46
Speaker 1: you talk about the Bible, you're talking about good news,
23:49
Speaker 1: and then we talk about gospel, and then we talked
23:52
Speaker 1: about good news. So what is good news and what
23:55
Speaker 1: is gospel? Well, the good news for the one us.
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Speaker 1: Both Greek word is uh hugh on Gilian, which means
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Speaker 1: good news, and the gospel is good news against the
24:07
Speaker 1: backdrop of bad news, the bad news. It seems to
24:10
Speaker 1: appreciate the good news, you gotta understand the bad news.
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Speaker 1: The bad news is that sinful men are separated from
24:16
Speaker 1: a holy God, and all mankind were sinful. At various
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Speaker 1: expressions of it, but we all have fallen short of
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Speaker 1: God's standard of perfection. That's the bad news. It's really
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Speaker 1: bad news because God can't accept imperfection in his presence.
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Speaker 1: So that makes the good news awesome news because God
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Speaker 1: has come up with a way to grant us a
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Speaker 1: credit report of perfection. What happens when the person comes
24:44
Speaker 1: to Christ, they get to piggyback on Jesus's credit report
24:48
Speaker 1: and says, Jesus's credit report is perfect credit. When you
24:52
Speaker 1: accept Jesus, you get a perfect credit score, even though
24:55
Speaker 1: you and I are imperfect, because God allows the righteousness
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Speaker 1: of Christ to betray for to us. And that makes
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Speaker 1: good news awesome news for all who willing to respond
25:05
Speaker 1: to Well, you know, the beauty of family. And I
25:09
Speaker 1: was bringing this up because, uh, you know, Atlanta have
25:11
Speaker 1: a business and I have a I have one daughter.
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Speaker 1: She goes to the University of Houston and she was
25:16
Speaker 1: interning this summer and I was every day she walked
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Speaker 1: in and we went home where I was happy. I
25:23
Speaker 1: was proud because she was. You know, you want to
25:26
Speaker 1: create legacies. You want to want to your children to
25:28
Speaker 1: live the life and respect the things that you're doing,
25:31
Speaker 1: to have your children work on this project. Just just
25:35
Speaker 1: slow it down and just talk about how that reacted
25:39
Speaker 1: to you now that your wife and their mother's gone,
25:43
Speaker 1: and how it was important that they was they were
25:46
Speaker 1: a part of We talked about Priscilla being the co
25:48
Speaker 1: host and Anthony he's doing the music, but the fact
25:52
Speaker 1: that they were there were important on this journey. Talk
25:54
Speaker 1: about well, you know, family is a big deal. It's
25:57
Speaker 1: a big deal in the Bible, it's a big deal
25:59
Speaker 1: and in history, and it's a big deal for culture. Uh.
26:03
Speaker 1: You know, whoever owns the family owns the future. The
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Speaker 1: saga of a nation is the saga of its family's
26:08
Speaker 1: written large. You break down the family, you destroyed the society.
26:13
Speaker 1: So the fact that we could do this as a
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Speaker 1: family allowed us to understore visually how critical family is
26:21
Speaker 1: to the legacy of faith. We didn't just want to
26:25
Speaker 1: preach it and say it. We wanted people to see it.
26:27
Speaker 1: So it's very critical. Well, you know, Jesus walked on water.
26:31
Speaker 1: You were preaching on water. Uh. You you were preaching
26:34
Speaker 1: on and uh and just being creative. The whole process
26:41
Speaker 1: of being able to pull that together. You know, you
26:44
Speaker 1: guys are producers. You have uh, people out there just
26:48
Speaker 1: to make sure everybody got that experience, because, like you said,
26:51
Speaker 1: it was seven hundred eight hundred people who came on
26:53
Speaker 1: this journey with you guys, and you got to do
26:56
Speaker 1: uh sermons and certain very historical locations and things like that.
27:01
Speaker 1: Talk about that experience, and we're talking with Dr Tony Evans.
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Speaker 1: Journey with Jesus is documentary and over the fifteenth to
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Speaker 1: the seventeen it will being selected theaters. But more importantly,
27:11
Speaker 1: as I asked these questions with him, I moved by
27:14
Speaker 1: the fact that the movie moved me and it allowed
27:18
Speaker 1: me to see things I had never seen in my life.
27:20
Speaker 1: Dr Tony Evans. It allowed me to slow down and
27:24
Speaker 1: appreciate my life. Dr Tony Evans. And more importantly, God,
27:29
Speaker 1: you share some good news with me. Well, the good news,
27:32
Speaker 1: the good news of Jesus Christ is hope you sir,
27:37
Speaker 1: open time and hope for eternity. That's that's twice, you know,
27:43
Speaker 1: and we understand the hope that comes in Christ in
27:46
Speaker 1: spite of the realities of circumstances. And when you're able
27:49
Speaker 1: to experience that yourself and then bring your loved ones
27:52
Speaker 1: into that, then it creates a whole new perspective of
27:56
Speaker 1: how you move in the future, and so much confusion today,
27:59
Speaker 1: some many pandemics today, so much conflict today. People need
28:03
Speaker 1: to see some hope. And so it is I hope
28:06
Speaker 1: that the Journey with Jesus will give people a sense
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Speaker 1: that all is not lost in spite of how bad
28:12
Speaker 1: things look, because what comes with Jesus is a whole
28:15
Speaker 1: bunch basket full. Oh well, you know, first of all,
28:19
Speaker 1: let everybody, this is not a a touristy movie. Uh.
28:24
Speaker 1: This is uh, this is a journey, and that's a
28:27
Speaker 1: that's different terminology. And but one thing that I always
28:31
Speaker 1: know that I mean when I went to South Africa,
28:33
Speaker 1: because you always have these images of black people, even
28:37
Speaker 1: black people, skinny black people, flies, just just just a
28:40
Speaker 1: darkness that sits over Africa. And so when you see
28:43
Speaker 1: on TV look at it Israel, you think about the
28:46
Speaker 1: bombings and and danger and talk about that experience. Because
28:50
Speaker 1: I felt a sense of calm and your journey. I
28:53
Speaker 1: didn't fear any I didn't sense any fear on uncertainty.
28:58
Speaker 1: But that's what we get on TV. Absolutely well, you know,
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Speaker 1: that's what makes news, you know, the all the negative stuff,
29:06
Speaker 1: and there's reality to a lot of the negative stuff.
29:09
Speaker 1: But that's see, that's the beauty that when we journeyed
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Speaker 1: with Jesus, we journeyed in peace. Yes, even in a
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Speaker 1: country where there is conflict and and uh and and
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Speaker 1: and people coming at each other, we were in a
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Speaker 1: place of peace. So that's what Jesus says. He says, Uh,
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Speaker 1: in me, you in the world, you're gonna have tribulation.
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Speaker 1: In me, you will have peace because I've overcome the world.
29:35
Speaker 1: That's what the Journey of Jesus gives you, a whole
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Speaker 1: bunch of peace. His new documentary explores the ministry of
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Speaker 1: Christ is called Journey with Jesus, shot on location in Israel.
29:46
Speaker 1: A special phantom event is released in theaters November fifteen
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Speaker 1: through the seventeen. Dr Tony Evans as always, I enjoyed
29:53
Speaker 1: my conversation with your son Anthony and Priscilla. You know,
29:56
Speaker 1: I love her, And maybe one day we all gonna
29:59
Speaker 1: beat up and Lupi's tortilla and share the free tacos
30:03
Speaker 1: and all that good stuff because I love the family. Man. Well,
30:06
Speaker 1: I appreciate that, and I just want to encourage folks,
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Speaker 1: and all they gotta do is going a journey with
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you where the movie is playing in your area.
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Speaker 1: On November fifte we tell the team to give me
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Speaker 1: and Schilla know why I'll do it. I did it
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Speaker 1: for the overcomer. I did it for your son. I
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Speaker 1: will help you promote this. I got almost a million
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Speaker 1: followers and social media. I will definitely help you get
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Speaker 1: the word out. Okay, thank you, God bless you. I
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Speaker 1: appreciate you. Thank you for your time. If you want
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