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MEDIA LIED as BIDEN takes us to the brink of WW3, & Trump was the one who made sure it never happened! · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: One of the biggest issues facing this country is the
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  Speaker 1: prospect of World War three. That is going to be
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  Speaker 1: one of the biggest issues that anyone running for office
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  Speaker 1: is going to have to deal with. Remember the country said,
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  Speaker 1: and I think it's pretty interesting if you go back
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  Speaker 1: in history and you'll listen to the media, you'll listen
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  Speaker 1: to Democrats. They said that it was going to be
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump that was going to get us into World
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  Speaker 1: War three. Remember when they said Donald Trump shouldn't be
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  Speaker 1: trusted with the nuclear codes. Remember when the Democrats actually
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  Speaker 1: said that Donald Trump was going to be the reason
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  Speaker 1: the World War three started. Donald Trump didn't start World
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  Speaker 1: War three. In fact, Donald Trump didn't even get us
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  Speaker 1: close to War War three. He was the guy that
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  Speaker 1: was making sure we stayed far away from Warren. How
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  Speaker 1: was he doing it through piece through strength. He was
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  Speaker 1: also willing to talk to anybody anywhere at any time,
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  Speaker 1: basically including Kim Jong un. He was willing to go
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  Speaker 1: meet with him. Why because he understood that if you
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  Speaker 1: can humanize one another and talk to one another instead
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  Speaker 1: of talking through the media, that there's a very good
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  Speaker 1: chance that you can actually avert War War three. And
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  Speaker 1: that's always a good thing. But the media wanted you
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  Speaker 1: to know that Donald Trump was going to be the
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  Speaker 1: reason why. That was part of the fear tech that
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  Speaker 1: he's going to be the irrational, psychotic and crazy, that
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  Speaker 1: guy that's going to get us into World War three.
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  Speaker 1: Never happened. Now, of course, they never said that about
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  Speaker 1: the Democrats, right, No, they would never say that about
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  Speaker 1: the Democrats. Joe Biden was never going to get us
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  Speaker 1: into War three. You know, Joe Biden and all of
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  Speaker 1: his war mongering friends right who loved to go to war,
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  Speaker 1: all of his good buddies in Congress, they would never
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  Speaker 1: accidentally get us into World War three. Nah, that would
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  Speaker 1: never happen. And yet here we are on the verge
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  Speaker 1: of World War The biggest issue for me, outside of
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  Speaker 1: securing our border and our out of control spinning, is
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  Speaker 1: the idea that we could get into a world war.
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  Speaker 1: And there's a lot of people in Europe right now
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  Speaker 1: that are ready to get back into war and things
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  Speaker 1: are ratcheting up. We all know this is because of
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  Speaker 1: Russia and Ukraine, and the countries around Russian and Ukraine
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  Speaker 1: are very concerned because this has already become a disaster
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  Speaker 1: in so many different ways for them. Humanitarian crisis, refugee crisis,
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  Speaker 1: people from those countries who live in Ukraine and are dying.
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  Speaker 1: People from many countries around Hungry, are from Hungry and
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  Speaker 1: other countries are going there to fight and defend their
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  Speaker 1: family and their loved ones, and they're dying in these wars.
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  Speaker 1: All of these different countries around Ukraine now are terrified
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  Speaker 1: of the prospect of a full on world war. Who
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  Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be worried about it, Joe Biden. Joe
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  Speaker 1: Biden doesn't seem to give a crap at all if
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  Speaker 1: we get into World War three. In fact, he seems
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  Speaker 1: to be in favor of it. He seems to be
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  Speaker 1: in favor of ratcheting things up. He seems to be
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  Speaker 1: in favor of moving things forward. He thinks that he
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  Speaker 1: seems to be in favor of really going all in
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  Speaker 1: on this one. Why one. I think it's a distraction
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  Speaker 1: from his disaster of a foreign policy. I think that
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  Speaker 1: has a lot to do with it. I also think
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  Speaker 1: he understands that there's a lot of special interest in
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people around him that are genuinely excited
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  Speaker 1: about the financial benefits of getting us into a world war.
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  Speaker 1: They like the idea in the prospect of getting us
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  Speaker 1: into a world war. And if we're in a full
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  Speaker 1: blown conflict between Russia, Ukraine and the EU's involved and
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  Speaker 1: everybody else, and you get the allies involved, and you're
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  Speaker 1: sending equipment and billions of dollars in aid, and we
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  Speaker 1: go into this thing, it actually probably would help him,
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  Speaker 1: not hurt him when it comes to his reelection. It
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  Speaker 1: would probably make things better, not worse for his chances,
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  Speaker 1: because then you're talking about, now is not the time
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  Speaker 1: for us to have someone coming in like Donald Trump
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  Speaker 1: or de Santists and changing our foreign policy. We're standing
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  Speaker 1: united with all of our allies. You go through the list, right,
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  Speaker 1: because even if it's a failure, they'll tell you it's
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  Speaker 1: somehow a success. Now, there is another part of this conflict,
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  Speaker 1: this war between Russian and Ukraine, that's not being talked about,
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  Speaker 1: not being talked about at all, and that's the fact
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  Speaker 1: that there are literally thousands per day that are dying.
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  Speaker 1: There are thousands of people that have been dying on
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  Speaker 1: the Ukrainian side of things daily, and there's been thousands
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  Speaker 1: have been dying on the Russian side. The humanitarian crisis
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  Speaker 1: into the millions of people that have fled the country
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  Speaker 1: of Ukraine because it's constant an er attack from Russia.
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  Speaker 1: And there are people in Russia that are terrified by
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  Speaker 1: what's also happening right now to some of their loved
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  Speaker 1: ones who are in Ukraine. Remember, there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: ethnic Russians in Ukraine. There's a lot of Russian soldiers
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  Speaker 1: apparently that we're not happy, and a lot of Russian
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  Speaker 1: individuals that are not happy about what is happening in
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  Speaker 1: this war. There's a lot of fatigue already, but when
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  Speaker 1: you have all the money coming in and all the
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  Speaker 1: people getting paid on this, it's not a bad thing
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  Speaker 1: for them. Now, there's also another part of this war
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  Speaker 1: that people don't understand. Former National Security Advisor Katie McFarland
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  Speaker 1: talked about this with me at Sepak, and what was
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  Speaker 1: talked about is the fact that when oil and gas
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  Speaker 1: prices are high, Russia has the disposed income to keep
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  Speaker 1: the war going. If you wanted to actually avert war, okay,
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  Speaker 1: what you would do is you would make sure that
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  Speaker 1: you lowered oil and gas prices, because that would take
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  Speaker 1: all discretion area spinning away from Russia, and then Russia
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  Speaker 1: literally could not afford this war. You want to know
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  Speaker 1: how Donald Trump averted War War three when he was president,
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  Speaker 1: It was by keeping oil and gas prices low. Russia
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  Speaker 1: couldn't afford to do what they're doing right now. No
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  Speaker 1: chance in hell. Russia can't afford it now because the sanctions,
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  Speaker 1: in a weird way, have actually backfired on the rest
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  Speaker 1: of the world. As Russia's seen oil and gas prices
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  Speaker 1: go up, they're making record prop it's right now, even
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  Speaker 1: on the black market. The fact that America has shut
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  Speaker 1: down our old exploration and our oil drilling has only
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  Speaker 1: allowed for Vladimir Putin to do what he's doing now
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  Speaker 1: that he would have never done under the leadership of
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump, not for any other reason than Trump understood
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  Speaker 1: the economics. Let me say that again, Trump understood the economics.
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  Speaker 1: If the price of gas was low, the price of
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  Speaker 1: oil was low, and you didn't have to worry about
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  Speaker 1: them exporting near as much because you didn't need it
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  Speaker 1: as badly into Russian oil and gas, you could control
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  Speaker 1: Russia and not worry as much about them Going to
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  Speaker 1: war or is expensive, especially when you don't have other
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  Speaker 1: people funding it like you. Look at Ukraine right now,
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  Speaker 1: they can't afford the war they're doing right now. They're
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  Speaker 1: being underwritten by Europe In America, that's how expensive war is.
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  Speaker 1: Russia doesn't have that, so they're underwritten by their oil profits.
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  Speaker 1: And if the oil profits aren't there, they can't afford conflicts.
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  Speaker 1: So Donald Trump understood that just as long as we
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  Speaker 1: had oil and gas prices that were cheap, that we
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  Speaker 1: could keep Russia in check. This administration has done the
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  Speaker 1: complete opposite of that, and now we have a humanitarian crisis,
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  Speaker 1: and we have any other countries around Ukraine that are terrified.
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  Speaker 1: over in Hungary. You guys did an amazing seapack event there.
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  Speaker 1: This was last year and it was actually delayed because
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  Speaker 1: of the war that was breaking out between Russia Ukraine.
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  Speaker 1: I were talking during the break here, and she was
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  Speaker 1: talking about this conflict and the concern of it exploding
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  Speaker 1: into Wold War three. You have a Rand involved, Now
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  Speaker 1: you have China involved, Now you have Europe involved, you
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  Speaker 1: have America involved. You are neighboring Ukraine. You've also been
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  Speaker 1: under Russian control in the history of your country communism.
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  Speaker 1: You also have a unique relationship with Russia because you
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  Speaker 1: guys are landlocked and when it comes the issue of
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  Speaker 1: energy is important, and you guys are calling for peace.
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  Speaker 1: Victor Orban Prime Minister, who have had the privilege of
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  Speaker 1: spending some time with calling for peace, I want you
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  Speaker 1: to talk about how important it is for people to
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  Speaker 1: understand that this is affecting people's lives. It's a humanitarian
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  Speaker 1: crisis issue. You guys, I don't even know the number
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  Speaker 1: of the left. You give me the new update of
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  Speaker 1: how many refugees have come across the border through hung
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  Speaker 1: more than one million, and you're right there on the
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  Speaker 1: border with Ukraine. You guys are calling for peace. Kind
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  Speaker 1: of explain where you are now year later. Um, Look,
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  Speaker 1: I think we in the Western world, we do share
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  Speaker 1: the strategic goals. I mean, one of the strategic goal
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  Speaker 1: is to have a suberin independent Ukraine, that's for sure.
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  Speaker 1: And of course we do not want to live in
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  Speaker 1: the shadow of the Russian threat, that's for sure. The
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  Speaker 1: question is how to reach those goals, and the Hungarian mindset,
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  Speaker 1: the Hungarian conservatives mindset, says that through immediate ceasefire and
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  Speaker 1: peace negotiations, first of all, because we have to spare
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  Speaker 1: human lives. Thousands are killed on a daily basis, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm happeople to understand that. I mean, this is happening.
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  Speaker 1: You guys are dealing with us. It's on your boarder.
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  Speaker 1: Thousands are dying daily in their score. It's horrible, including
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  Speaker 1: humanitarian including Hungarians. Because there is a quite large ethnic
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  Speaker 1: Hungarian minority in Ukraine. And uh, those ethnic Hungarians Ukrainian
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  Speaker 1: citizens are some of them or most of them. The
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  Speaker 1: demand are enrolled to the Ukrainian Army and they are
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  Speaker 1: fighting on the front against the against the Russian troops,
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  Speaker 1: and they are dying on a daily basis as well,
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  Speaker 1: so they are there are Hungarian casualties actually in the Ukraine.
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  Speaker 1: So it affects Hungary not only from the perspective of
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  Speaker 1: for example, energy security, but because of the Hungarian minority
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  Speaker 1: in Ukraine. So the Hungarian standpoint is that we do
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  Speaker 1: have those mansion strategic goals for us, it's it's very
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  Speaker 1: very important to have something between Hungary and between Russia,
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  Speaker 1: and that should be a super in Ukraine, between between
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  Speaker 1: my country and between a between Russia. But but very
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  Speaker 1: do you have the differences with other countries. With the
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  Speaker 1: European mainstream is how to reach those strategic goals. What
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  Speaker 1: we feel investor in Europe is that the political environment,
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  Speaker 1: the political atmosphere, promotes more military eight more military support.
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  Speaker 1: It began a year ago, a whole fear ago, for
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  Speaker 1: example in Germany with helmets to give helmets for Ukraines.
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  Speaker 1: Now they are giving tanks and the next step will
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  Speaker 1: be UH air force squads. Yeah, fighter jets. I mean
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  Speaker 1: this is this is in one year, this has gone
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  Speaker 1: from a military standpoint, the complete opposite of what you
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  Speaker 1: and I talked about UM at the Presidential Palace UH
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  Speaker 1: in Hungary almost a year ago to the day. And
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  Speaker 1: that this is not going in the direction that you
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  Speaker 1: guys knew it could go because you've living it, you're
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  Speaker 1: experiencing it, the thousands are doing and that's got to
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  Speaker 1: concern you. Now that maybe people are looking at the
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  Speaker 1: other countries right around Ukraine. Yeah, UM, look the the
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  Speaker 1: what I mentioned for us, it may have sound like
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  Speaker 1: the like the exclusive Hungarian interest that we are seeing
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  Speaker 1: this promoting peace, promoting security, because that's the that's the
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  Speaker 1: Hungary interest. And of course UH they are a nation
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  Speaker 1: first country like UH, like America first was for Trump
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  Speaker 1: for us. For Hungarians, Hungary comes first, that's for sure.
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  Speaker 1: But our approach fits a think into the European interests
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  Speaker 1: and to the interest of the Western world. I will
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  Speaker 1: I will tell you why, because it seems that the
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  Speaker 1: policies and politics carried on by the European mainstream, the
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  Speaker 1: progressive mainstream, for example, sanctions on Russia. Uh did not
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  Speaker 1: bring Russia into its knees, but but increase the energy
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  Speaker 1: prices and deer here comes and that means he makes
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  Speaker 1: more money. They make they make a lot more money,
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  Speaker 1: and that means they can continue to fight. Yeah, the
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  Speaker 1: way to stop this war is, Katie mcpromm said earlier,
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  Speaker 1: and I agree with this, is to drive down energy
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  Speaker 1: prices so they can't afford to fight this war. As
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  Speaker 1: long as energy prices are high, they can afford and
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  Speaker 1: have enough excess money left over to continue this on
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  Speaker 1: sought in Ukraine. And that's what this administration doesn't seem
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  Speaker 1: to understand. And the problem and the problem what you
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  Speaker 1: should see that maybe from an American standpoint it's it's
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  Speaker 1: too far, but Europe in general and Hungary central European
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  Speaker 1: region is highly dependent on Russian energy. It's it's not
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  Speaker 1: some kind of a love story with MESCO. As you mentioned,
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  Speaker 1: Hungary suffered under the Communist thumb, under the Soviet Union's
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  Speaker 1: oppression for more than forty years. So if there is
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  Speaker 1: a country, and if there are a countryman, the Hungarian
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  Speaker 1: conservatives who do know how it is to live under
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  Speaker 1: Russian oppression, that we Hungarians and Hungarian conservatives. I we
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  Speaker 1: you know. So when it comes to Hungarian Russian relations,
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  Speaker 1: it's not it's not a love story. It's the very
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  Speaker 1: it's the very fact. It's the reality that all of
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  Speaker 1: the gas pipelines, all of the oil pipelines, most of them,
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  Speaker 1: most of them are coming to Hungary from Russia. And
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  Speaker 1: that is true for the region and in a very
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  Speaker 1: high percentage true for the whole Europe. That the continent
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  Speaker 1: is dependent on Russian gas and russianally and because of
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  Speaker 1: the sanctions imposed on the energy products of Russia by
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  Speaker 1: the European Commission, by the European Union, those sanctions increased
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  Speaker 1: energy prices. Which partent has more money or more has
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  Speaker 1: war machine, That's yeah, that's secondly. Secondly, it increased inflation
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  Speaker 1: all over Europe, and the high inflation caused a very
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  Speaker 1: very sure economic recession. So what we do experience now
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  Speaker 1: in Europe that we do have a vord in our neighborhood.
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  Speaker 1: As I told you, Hungarians are dying. Hungary had accepted
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  Speaker 1: more than one million I think it's already are on
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  Speaker 1: one point five million Ukrainian refugees to Hungary. But we
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  Speaker 1: do have the economic troubles, the account of high inflation,
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  Speaker 1: economic recession all over Europe. And what we why why
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  Speaker 1: we urge for a peace is of course to spare
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  Speaker 1: human life. But what we also see that with this
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  Speaker 1: war ongoing, with the prolonged word economic suffering will be
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  Speaker 1: for the future, would be for the future as well,
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  Speaker 1: and that is not good for Europe. And I tell
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  Speaker 1: you another thing, an important thing, it's not good for
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  Speaker 1: the US either, because first of all, I think the
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: US needs a very strong European allie. Europe had been
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  Speaker 1: always been had they had always been the ally of
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  Speaker 1: the US. But Americans, I think need a strong Europe
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  Speaker 1: and strong European conservatives as a partner, a beacon in Europe.
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  Speaker 1: European economic recession is not the best partner for the US.
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  Speaker 1: And secondly, with those sanctions and with this whole whole,
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  Speaker 1: I think insane politics towards the world, or I would think,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: I would say, emotion base politics towards Russia. It pushes
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  Speaker 1: Musco into the hands of Beijing. And that's the worst
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  Speaker 1: screenplay if they will team up together, that's the worst
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  Speaker 1: screenplay for Europe and for the US as well. Well.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about another aspect of what you guys are
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  Speaker 1: also having to deal with right now in Hungary, and
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  Speaker 1: and explain to people how many miles from Budapest, your
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  Speaker 1: capital is it to Ukraine, the border of Ukraine. How
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  Speaker 1: exacted a drive there to two and a half the border,
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  Speaker 1: okay two another three hours, So it's people need to
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  Speaker 1: understand how close is. It's very close. It's very because
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  Speaker 1: they can be to live through this in the nineties
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  Speaker 1: when there was the vor in Yugoslavia also a neighboring country,
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  Speaker 1: or Serbia, neighboring country of Hungary. And I'll tell you
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  Speaker 1: it's not good to have a war at your backyard.
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  Speaker 1: It's not good. It's very different to approach to such
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  Speaker 1: a situation from Berlin, from Rome, from Paris, or from Washington, DC.
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  Speaker 1: So it is saying this, but to live next to
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  Speaker 1: a war they're Hungarians are already affected. That brings you
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  Speaker 1: to a much more pacifist standpoint and mindset. And I
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: tell you what what is very very interesting that those
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  Speaker 1: European politicians, the liberal progressive mainstream which urges now for
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  Speaker 1: more military, more military support and promotes a very aggressive
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  Speaker 1: of military standpoint. Those are the progressives who had been
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  Speaker 1: advocating for peace, love, happiness, make love not war. For decades.
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  Speaker 1: They were the one who always promoted pacifism all along,
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  Speaker 1: even under the Soviet Union, and when the Van the
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  Speaker 1: Communist ruled half of Europe, they were very very pacifist.
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  Speaker 1: And the hippies and now the very same progressive liberal group,
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  Speaker 1: liberal mindset now suddenly became very hawkish in Europe and
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  Speaker 1: the up promoting literary solution let's talk about sepack hungry
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  Speaker 1: coming up. Obviously, the entire tone of what you thought
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  Speaker 1: you'd be talking about two years ago in your country
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  Speaker 1: has changed. We saw that with a very what I
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  Speaker 1: would refer to Stave of a Union address from from
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  Speaker 1: from Victor Orban, which I watched because I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: see what he had to say. Do you speak Hungarian? No,
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  Speaker 1: But I was watching the subtitles. I was, I was.
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  Speaker 1: I was very much watching it because I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: see what he said. And he was obviously talking about
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  Speaker 1: family first policies at country first policies. He was also
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  Speaker 1: talking about peace and making it clear we need to
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  Speaker 1: have this seems to end and does not need to escalate,
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  Speaker 1: and we need to find a way to peace. And
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  Speaker 1: I love the way that he was describing Hungry's role.
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  Speaker 1: You guys at the center fundamental rights understand how important
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  Speaker 1: families are in a strong family. It's part of the
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  Speaker 1: reason why you brought Seapack to Hungary, the honor speaking
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  Speaker 1: at the first Seapack Hungry and look forward to hopefully
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  Speaker 1: going back to Hungary as well as well. Yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 1: excited to be back in Hungary. And you guys this
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  Speaker 1: year's theme a year later, we're still coming in under
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  Speaker 1: the same theme, except it's a war that's escalated. What
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  Speaker 1: does the goal for you guys for seatback Hungry this year?
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: What is what does a successful Seapack Hungry look like
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: when it comes to the issues, Luke, I have a
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  Speaker 1: dream and my dream is the liberals nightmare, the stung
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  Speaker 1: international cooperation of national conservative forces. Last year's motive of
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  Speaker 1: CEPEC Hungary was God, homeland and family. Now it will
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  Speaker 1: be about united We stand that conservative forces all around
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  Speaker 1: the world, will around the Western civilization should joins four
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  Speaker 1: forces and should act unite it. Why because of course
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  Speaker 1: there is a there is this ongoing world which is
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  Speaker 1: the most important geopolitical problem that we have nowadays. But
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: we should not forget about the Marxists, the socialists that
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  Speaker 1: we do have in the West, and they are trying
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  Speaker 1: to destroy our most cherished values, the Judeo Christian heritage,
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  Speaker 1: if our civilization, the importance of the nation, national pride,
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  Speaker 1: and state superianity. And of course they are trying to
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  Speaker 1: destroy the family, and they are threatening children with this
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  Speaker 1: gender nonsense. Think and what we think with spec Hungary
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  Speaker 1: and what we you think in general in Hungary, the
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  Speaker 1: Hungary and conservatives is that if you're brave enough, and
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  Speaker 1: if you're wise enough, and if you do know the
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  Speaker 1: political know how, and if you can act as professional
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  Speaker 1: as the progressives, then you can defend your values. And
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: that's why we brought SEEPAC to Hungary first of all,
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  Speaker 1: to show the Hungarian example to divert because for example,
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  Speaker 1: our constitution defends the Christian values if our country. It
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  Speaker 1: enshrines the importance of national identity and state superanity, and
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  Speaker 1: it protects the family and the children's right to self
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  Speaker 1: identity and against gender propaganda. But there are also other
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  Speaker 1: very important things about Hungary are very generous family, very
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  Speaker 1: generous family policies pertaining to taxation as well. So the
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  Speaker 1: more children you have in Hungary, the less tax you
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  Speaker 1: pay for the state, you're basically encouraging a nuclear family
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  Speaker 1: through the issue of tax, where you don't analyze people
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  Speaker 1: for having a family, you're encouraging it, which is incredible
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  Speaker 1: and so basic. And the and the whole environment very important,
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  Speaker 1: very important. Not it's not only about technical or legal changes,
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  Speaker 1: but the environment is changing. Fertility rate is increasing in Hungary,
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  Speaker 1: a number of marriages doubled in the past ten years,
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  Speaker 1: and very very the most important fact that without any
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  Speaker 1: kind of legal amendment to the respective laws, the number
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  Speaker 1: of abortions halved in the past ten years. Because the
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  Speaker 1: environment is changing, it's becoming a more and more pro family, work,
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  Speaker 1: fair society and environment in Hungary. So that's that's very
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: important new about and of course laws, but not least
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: protecting the borders and fight against illegal migration is all
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  Speaker 1: to an important issue for us from Hungary in Conservatives
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  Speaker 1: v built death vole on the southern border off if Hungary,
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  Speaker 1: and first of all, the Hungary would like to show
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  Speaker 1: the Hungarian example the especially when you're next door to Russia.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, look at these two different worlds you can
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  Speaker 1: live in. You can live in a world of family,
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  Speaker 1: pride and independence and prosperity in small business and growth,
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  Speaker 1: economic growth, or you can live under this communism and
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  Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin and this basically you have no freedoms and
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  Speaker 1: independence as a human being a family. That's where I
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: think Hungary right now is such a beacon of hope
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  Speaker 1: in this part of the world, and you guys are
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: basically shotting a massive light on it at the Center
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  Speaker 1: for Fundamental Rights and also having see pack Hungary, and
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: it was well attended the first year I got to
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  Speaker 1: tell people for a first year conference flying over there,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: I obviously didn't know what to expect. It was a
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  Speaker 1: packed house. The people are hungry for freedom and they're
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: hungry for family and traditional values in Hungary, which is amazing.
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  Speaker 1: And honestly there's a part of me that wish that
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  Speaker 1: we had that same type of urgency in this country
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  Speaker 1: because we take it for granted far too often. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: thank you very much for your words. I do really
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  Speaker 1: hope and that I really I will stay humble because
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: Hungary is a small country with an open economy, landlock country,
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  Speaker 1: So we do not dare to say that we will
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: be the largest superpower in the Western word. If it
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: comes to conservative issues. But I do really hope that
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Hungary can serve as a hub, as a as a
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  Speaker 1: powerhouse for conservatives all around the Western civilization, because Hungary
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  Speaker 1: is the best example that you can bring conservative ideas
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  Speaker 1: that we are always talking about to practice, to act.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why Brussels and the progressive mainstream all around
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  Speaker 1: the world. Here in the US, the New York Times
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  Speaker 1: scene and is so frustrated about Hungary and about spec
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  Speaker 1: hungering about about Prime Minister worb on On On and about
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  Speaker 1: the the Hungarian conservative movement because they see that we
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: can protect our faith, our religious freedoms, our judio Christian heritage,
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  Speaker 1: our national pride, our borders, our superenity. We do have
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: our deep state in Europe as well. You have your
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: deep state here in DC. Our our deep state is
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: called Brussels, the European Union. And although we are a
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: proud member of EU and NATO, we do have our
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: daily struggle. So we are fighting that fight with that
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  Speaker 1: with that deep state if ours, and it needs bravery,
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  Speaker 1: it needs courage, it needs uh wisdom. And our our
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: planet is the Hungarian master planet, is to bring conservatives
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  Speaker 1: all around the world on the board to act unite
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  Speaker 1: because what we see is that the left is professionally
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  Speaker 1: organized at the international level. That's how they can, in
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: the name of political correctness esg voke gender ideology, critical
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  Speaker 1: race theory, you can name it. In the name of
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: their ideas, they can launch a massive planetary global attack
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  Speaker 1: are against fundamental values. But if we team up as well,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: although we do have our local roots and maybe we
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: do have our differences if it comes to I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: taxation or social medicine, therese all technical issues compared to
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: the big issues the tree and value of God, homeland
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  Speaker 1: and family that we should protect and seepack. Hungary is
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: a flagship project I think for that, and Hungary I
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  Speaker 1: hope can serve with a very good example for conservatives
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  Speaker 1: all over the how to how to fight this fight,
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  Speaker 1: and of course the Hungarians. We also want to learn
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  Speaker 1: from you, from American conservatives, from European conservatives, from quik conservatives,
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  Speaker 1: from South America, from Israel, from Australia, from Japan, because
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: that is how they can build up and know how,
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  Speaker 1: and that is how we can build a conservative consensus
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  Speaker 1: instead of a neoliberal consensus. And that's how we can
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: build up the Superanity of the Right. It's going to
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: be a really fun conference this year for people that
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: want to find out more about the certain fundamental rights.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: How can they get in touch? We do have a
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: website in English as well. If they type into your
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Google a Center of Fundamental Rise, they will find it.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: And of course Seepeck Hungary has a website as well,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: so they can find on our website as well. And
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: of course there is Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, maybe we do
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: not have Maybe that's all. That's enough. We're good. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: thank you. I look forward to seeing you over in Hungary.
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  Speaker 1: It'll be a pleasure to be with you again. Thanks
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  Speaker 1: for coming over for seatback in the US and always
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  Speaker 1: a pleasure to see you my friend. Thank you very much,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Ben United to be Stunned. Want to remind you you
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: can download the Ben Ferguson podcasts and you can hear
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: that Katie mcfallan interview. We do our podcast six days
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: a week, so makes you download the Ben Ferguson podcasts
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: now