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E172: How Unhealthy Are Your Favorite Foods? (pt2) w/Dr Anthony Jay · The Lila Rose Show

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This is the Kirkland signature cheese pizza.
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They're taking those rock hard pits that they're using as waste
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products and then they're mushing them up with all these
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chemicals and making seed oils. Why is sucralose as an example
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problematic? It triggers your brain into
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thinking like you're getting all these great nutrients and then
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when it gets down to your stomach, you really don't have
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anything but sugar and carbs. That's yoga mat material.
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They literally put it in bread. Hey guys.
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Welcome back to the Lila Rose Show.
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We're going to be sitting down again with Doctor Anthony J, who
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is a scientist, a geneticist, A researcher, and author for Part
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2 of this fascinating investigation into America's
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food industry. We're going to be focusing on
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the products in your grocery store and talking about, through
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a virtual walk through the grocery store, products that you
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should be aware of and products that are maybe not so bad after
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all. I hope you enjoy.
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I know you keep coming back to processed foods.
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We'll just avoid processed foods because that's where all the
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crazy stuff gets just thrown in there in the pile.
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So let's let's maybe go there. And then I want to talk about
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some of these specific ingredients and processed foods
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that are so detrimental. Let's start with something that
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seems maybe a little more innocent.
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So I don't know if people will say this is innocent, but you're
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in the frozen food section of the grocery store.
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And let's start with something as simple as the frozen fruit or
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the frozen whole veggies. Not.
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Processed super super fine. Yep.
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Preferably pick organic. Again, there's a genetic
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variance. Once in a while some people do
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poorly with too much sugar or whatever, but yeah.
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But generally speaking, very good.
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So all right, so that's covered. All right, let's keep moving
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down the aisle. Now we're going to get into the
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section of the frozen desserts and we're talking let's
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popsicles first. Now, I've noticed a lot of kids
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popsicles. I'm usually looking for like
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popsicles that just are made with fruit juice.
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That would be my ideal for my kids.
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It's very hard, hard to find those even with the ones that
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have organic slapped on them. They always are going to have
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added cane sugar. And then there's always these
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ingredients that often I don't know what it, what these things
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are, you know, and I have to research them.
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What, what about frozen? Let's just say popsicles.
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Anything to look out for for those for kids?
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My kids just don't have those so honestly I I stay away from
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them. I mean, my wife likes we
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homeschool, so would they like to make stuff like that with
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make your own popsicles and things?
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But the problem is you kind of have to become an expert on a
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lot of this because again, the government's not watching out
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for you. And so you have to become your
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own best advocate. And honestly, apple juice, for
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example, and orange juice has like 40 grams of sugar, carbs
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right in the form of sugar when you squeeze all these fruits and
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you distill it down to juice, whereas Coca-Cola has like 36
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grams of sugar, you know, like sometimes the juices are worse
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for you. But if they don't have that much
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sugar, if if it's if, if it's only got 10 grams of sugar, kids
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can handle that pretty well. If they're only having it once
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in a while, you know it's it's, there's some nuance with the
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sugar stuff. So here's I just want to unpack
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this for a minute Popsicles. I know we're like winter time.
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This would be better for summer time, but I think this is, you
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know, one of the things I wanted to make sure to discuss with you
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today. So this is a brand.
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It says here it's called outshine.
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It says real fruit juice. I think there's an organic
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version of it, but anyways it says no sugar added.
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So they use the fruits. To but look at the ingredient
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list to help me understand. So you have strawberry water.
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OK great now it says sorbital now it says maltodextrin, sugar,
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glycerin, polydextro, citric acid, exorbic acid, vitamin C,
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guar gum, sucralose, strawberry juice from concentrate carob
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bean gum, natural flavor, azulfame potassium, fake sugar
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beet juice colors. That makes me feel a little or
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maybe it's not red 40 or you know a dye turmeric ulcer in
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color tangerine, more sorbitol, polydextrous and then it has
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modified corn stair syrup. It has more maladextrans citric
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acid, gour gum, sucralose, Caribbean gum.
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I mean literally this ingredient list and and in my view it's
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like, OK, why can't we just get a pure juice and just freeze it
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and sell it to me conveniently pre frozen so I don't have to do
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that work myself. But tell me why?
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Tell me, are any of these problematic these ingredients?
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For sure. I mean, they've got sucralose
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and ace K, they ace sulfatane, potassium, is it called ace K?
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Why is sucralose as an example problematic?
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Well, you're spiking your insulin to some.
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You're you're just triggering, you're basically triggering
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sugar addiction, right? Like a lot of the what they're
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doing is they're adding sweeteners to sugar, you have
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sugar and then you're adding more.
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Sugar added. No, it's not sugar, it's fake
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sugar, right? OK, but like for example,
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sucralose triggers your, your taste buds like 100 times more
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than regular sugar. So you're hype.
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They're called hyperpalatability, right?
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Have you heard the term hyperpalatable?
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Like burritos and things? So a lot of times they, they,
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they hire food scientists and This is why these ingredient
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lists get so long to intentionally create
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hyperpalatability, meaning it hyperactivates your palate,
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right? In an unnatural way that you can
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never find something like that in nature.
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And so it triggers your brain into thinking like you're
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getting all these great nutrients, your brain gets all
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excited and then when it gets down to your stomach, you really
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don't have anything but sugar and carbs, right?
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Because look on the protein, I'll bet there's 0 gram.
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I mean 1g of protein or? 0 grams of protein means
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popsicle. And fats, 0 grams of fats,
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right? And then carbs.
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What's the carbs 35? 6 grams of carbs.
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Oh, that's yeah. And then the reason it's so low
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is because they're putting all these fake sugars in there.
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But the point is, I mean, so in other words, I'm a little bit
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more inclined to get this one than something that has 36 grams
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of carbs. So if I could pick the 36 grams
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of carbs, which is literally the orange juice that's been frozen,
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let's just say theoretically, right, or this, which has a
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really long ingredient list because it's using the fake
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sugars as opposed to the real sugars that have more carbs, you
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would pick this one. No, you'd pick neither.
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Well, depends on how active the kids are and stuff and how rare
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it is. If they're having it every day,
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I would say don't do popsicles every day.
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That is a lot of sugar for daily consumption.
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If you have it once a week, I would definitely choose the
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fruit juices because again, some of these studies are kind of
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questionable with sucralose and Ace K and also a lot of these
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other ingredients that we don't need to get into all the
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details, but it's better to air on the side of skepticism when
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it comes to these synthetic chemicals.
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That's my general philosophy. So that's how I think about it.
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OK, so let's keep moving to the ice cream now, so some of the
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I'll. Just tell you right off the bat,
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yes, if you have good dairy. I mean, if you have, if you, if
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you do poorly with milk, yes, Don't do ice cream.
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OK. It's just the way.
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It is or you can do rice dream. What about those like non dairy
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ice creams? Well, I would avoid soy, but
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sure, OK. And the other thing is I, I
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personally do very poorly with carrageenan.
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OK, carrageenan is very common in creams and I.
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Tell me more because there's some ice cream brands where they
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say literally there's only five ingredients.
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There's like milk, there's sugar, there's dairy.
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Here's an example. This is from Ben and Jerry's.
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And by the way, we don't we're not fans of Ben and Jerry's on
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this show. Not only are they overpriced and
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over hyped, in my view, they're also like their politics are
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abysmal and they're always pushing their politics and their
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customers. So that's the big reason.
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But let's look at this Ben and Jerry's.
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It says cream, liquid sugar. OK, no surprise, right?
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But then it goes in pressed soybean oil, soybean oil, it
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says egg white, salt, gargum, molasses, vanilla extract, cocoa
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butter. And then it says cardigan and
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then baking soda, soy Lechin and anato extract for color.
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Talk to me about those extra ingredients.
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If you see carrageenan in your ice cream, what would?
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You get it. I personally don't.
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I don't even do toothpaste with carrageenan.
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It makes my gums inflamed. And I tried removing fluoride.
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I tried removing SLS which is a detergent in toothpaste.
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None of that fixed my gingivitis gum issue for that I had growing
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up. And then I got rid of
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carrageenan and boom, my gums don't have inflammation.
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And I've researched it and once again, it's it's difficult
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because the guy that invented carrageenan, it's a, it's a
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seaweed extract. So they say, oh, it's OK, it's
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seaweed while they're isolating it from seaweed and it's kind of
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inflammatory. But again, when you go through
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the research. You eat a bunch of seaweed,
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necessarily. Yeah, like our bodies aren't
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adapted to hype, you know, like, basically purifying all this
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extra. Why do they put it in ice cream?
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To Thickener. To thicken it, OK.
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And they put in heavy cream sometimes too.
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So I just make absolutely certain I buy the products that
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don't have those. And you know, again, if you
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don't, if you can't read all the ingredients, just stick with
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meats, veggies and fruits, right?
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For sure you're going to be safe with that stuff with kids.
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Yeah, yeah, to some degree. What about?
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Root vegetables? Root vegetables?
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What? About let's keep moving down the
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aisle. OK, let's get to the more the
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processed food section. But I would even consider ice
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cream as kind of like an exception, Meaning like have it
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once in a while, sure, but don't have it all the time.
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But you can have root vegetables all the time.
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You can have ice. Cream once a week maybe?
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Sure, and make sure it doesn't depends on your genes.
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Maybe avoid carrageenan? Definitely, I recommend that.
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Yeah, OK. And how important is it for the
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milk to be organic? Not that, probably not that
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important in this case. All right, good to know.
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So now let's go into the processed food section and let's
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I'll be honest, I do. We have frozen pizzas in my
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house. We haven't always and we won't
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necessarily always. Maybe after this episode I'll be
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throwing them away, but once every couple weeks, especially
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if it's like a date night or something.
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And I'm always also questioning like if I'm ordering A to go
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pizza, is that really healthier than the pizza that I get from
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the, you know, freezer at Costco?
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So let's look at the ingredients of the Costco cheese pizzas.
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OK, This is the Kirkland signature cheese pizza and it's
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not a bad pizza. It doesn't taste terrible.
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Here is this specific ingredient list and it doesn't look as bad.
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It says, I mean, this is again, cross food can be so great.
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Enriched wheat flour, not organic, so there's a problem
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there. But water, toasted bread crumbs,
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yeast, extra virgin olive oil, salt, sugars, barley flour,
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canola oil, toppings, part skin, mozzarella and then cheddar
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cheese, sauces, water, crushed tomatoes, extra virgin olive
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oil, sugar, salt, vinegar, garlic powder, black pepper,
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onion powder. I understand what every
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ingredient on this. Is it's a great place to start
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and. So is this a process in your
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view or how would you consider it?
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I consider process. I don't eat that but I do.
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But my wife makes pizza and and it's probably pretty similar
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ingredients except she uses sourdough and that kind of
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thing. But I don't have a huge problem
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with that. Again, once in a while, once a
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week, no big deal. The this is where it's so
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important that we get American grains and things cleaned up,
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because that could be super good.
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But now they're spraying glyphosate and atrazine and all
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these goofy chemicals on the wheat that's in there.
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But other than that it's really good.
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So if this was made with organic sourdough, it'd be super pretty
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great. OK, that I now feel a little
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better about feeding this to my kids, but I the dream would
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maybe be to make sourdough crust myself.
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Yeah, make it for them myself. OK, so let's keep moving.
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I. Have girls that are like teen,
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well one of them is a teenager and stuff so they make it right.
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See, you're in the golden years. Good for you.
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Let's think of a little older. OK, so let's keep moving down
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the aisle in the and then I want to get to like the cereal aisle
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and stuff. OK, Are we doing, are we good
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on? Are we doing good with this?
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OK, so we're still in the frozen food section, and now let's go
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to frozen chicken Nuggets. Yeah, the chicken part I'm not
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too worried about, but it's the breading, of course.
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OK, so let's pull up that ingredients.
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These are the now there's the really nasty like Dino Nuggets,
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which I I'm not even going to look at.
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I'm going to start with the healthier version, which is what
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I've gotten before, which they sell at Costco and it's
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something like this. It's called, this is also sold
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at other stores. Just bare, lightly breaded
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chicken breast bites. No antibiotics ever.
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Let's look at the ingredients boneless, skinless chicken
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breast, water, seasoning, sugar, salt, spices including paprika
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and celery seed. It does have canola oil and
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soybean oil, rice starch breaded with wheat flour, sugar, salt,
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non fat dried milk, dried egg whites, baking powder, spice,
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paprika, breading set and vegetable oil.
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It's. Pretty good, yeah.
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I mean, I'm pretty strict in my house with the seed oils, so if
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it's got seed oils I just don't do it.
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So what are the What are the worst seed oil culprits?
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All of them. I don't even do sesame.
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I don't even do sesame seed oil. I'm just if it's a seed oil,
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it's almost certainly not good for you.
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But olive oil? Is OK.
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Olives are fruits. Yeah.
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Olive oil, avocado oil, coconut oil.
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Butter is good. If you could do well with dairy,
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All of those lard is amazing. That's what our ancestors used.
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No problems. Right.
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Canola oils, Soybean oils? What are some others to be on
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the avocado oil? Sunflower seed oil if it's
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something oil. Is okay though.
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Avocados are fruits. Yeah, those are good.
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And by the way, there was a company came out with avocado
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seed oil and they're taking those rock hard pits that
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they're using as waste products from making guacamole and then
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they're mushing them up with all these chemicals and making seed
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oils. Of course that's going to be
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bad. I don't need to see the studies.
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I'm just going to assume that's bad, right?
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And I'm not going to argue with people about it.
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Me personally, I'm not going to have avocado seed oil, but the
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avocado oil is fine once in a while.
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It's OK to have a little bit of seed oils, right?
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So again, most people, I would say sure.
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Me personally, I'm a little extra picky and, and I don't
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need to use seed oils and my wife is lucky enough to stay at
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home and homeschool the kids and my kids are really good helpers.
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So again, there's there's a lot going on, right?
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All right, so we're going to keep going through and some of
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these are products that I have. I'm choosing them because I
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actually use them or have used them or they're products that I
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think need special attention that maybe I'm not using, but
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people I think should know about.
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All right, so next we're doing tighter tons.
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Cool. OK, so let's pull up our tater
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tots here. They don't sell tater tots at
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Costco. I know this because my husband
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and boys really like tater tots, and when I go there, I can't buy
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them at Costco for them. But occasionally if I'm at
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Trader Joe's, I'll get them or they do sell them at places like
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Albertson's or Safeway or whatever.
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So here's the kind of classic Aura Ida Golden tater Tot season
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bag. OK, we're going to pull up the
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ingredient list here. All right, here we go.
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Potatoes, vegetable oil blend, soybean and cotton seed, salt,
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yellow corn flour, dextrose, sodium acid phyrophosphate to
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retain natural color. Dehydrated onion Sodium acid
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sulfate, Natural flavor. Yeah, again with the the seed
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oils, right. This is such a problem in
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America. To try and find foods without
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seed oils, you almost have to buy the.
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Potato oil, right? I know other other than the seed
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oils it's OK and again I always get nervous about natural
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flavors but other than that it's fine.
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OK, all right, great. Let's keep moving.
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I think we're going to leave the frozen food section.
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We're not even going to Well, just for fun, we will do 1 Hot
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Pocket. So we're going to pull up a Hot
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Pocket. All right, here we go We're on
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the Hot Pocket website from the source itself.
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I. Don't think I've ever eaten one
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of these. That's why you're still
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standing. OK, All right.
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Nestle Hot Pockets frozen snacking BBQ beef.
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Be a long. List enriched flour, wheat
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flour, malted barley flour, niacin, iron, thiamine, Mona
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nitrate, nitrate. There's a folic acid too.
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OK, Rib A flavin, folic acid water, cooked beef steak, ground
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and formed. All right, so so far is how are
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we doing with enriched flour? I mean, anytime you see enriched
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flour, it should fly, right? Not a fan?
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Yeah. 'Cause that's like that, the
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good stuff is taken out and then they artificially put in stuff
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to enrich it, right. And you were talking about the
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folic acid earlier. OK, So now it says, OK, Now all
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the, the, the fun stuff. OK, Yeast extract, maladextrin
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flavors, beef stock, sunflower oil.
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So you got your seed oil, salt, sodium phosphate, beef fat.
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Not horrible, but not great. Yeah, no, I mean, yeah, the,
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it's, I'm looking at it, just glancing and I'm seeing
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different types of sugars like maltodextrin and things.
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Again, they're just sneaking sugar in without saying sugar.
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And they're also putting a lot of seed oils and I'm even seeing
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margarine in there, which of course is just more seed oil
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nonsense right with. Right.
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So it's a vehicle for sugar and then it's a vehicle for seed
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oils? Yep, always.
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Yeah. And again, those two items,
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sugars and seed oils, they trick your brain.
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They trigger your brain, right? They're hyper palatable.
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And that's why people just some people just love their Hot
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Pocket. Yeah, yeah.
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OK, all right, so now. And then I saw a dough
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conditioner too, but it didn't, it didn't have anything super
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sketchy. Sometimes those dough
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conditioners have. Have you heard of AZO carb?
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AZO Dicarbotomize. No.
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Tell me about it. That's yoga mat material.
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They literally put it in bread. It's yoga mat material and it's
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legal and once again illegal in Europe.
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RFK specifically talked about AZO dicarbotomide.
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What would they put that in? Like a.
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Subway bread, like Google subway.
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You don't have to but you can if you want.
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But just for listeners, also Google subway bread AZO dicarbon
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search subway bread and I'll spell it out for you.
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A ZODI. Here we go, I found it.
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Dicarbonamide. OK, yes, Subway bread previously
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contained Azodia carbonide, a chemical that is also used in
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plastics and shoes. When did they stop taking?
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When did they take it out? 2014 it looks like.
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Yeah, when the Food Babe, you know, the food babe, she was
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part of that whole recent government thing.
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She, she actually brought this to everybody's attention because
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it was in Wendy's, it was in McDonald's and I think most of
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the companies didn't remove it, but she specifically was picking
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on Subway in this massive, she had a massive campaign with a
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petition and so many thousands of people, you know, were part
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of that. And so she, she got it out of
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Subway. But a lot of other companies and
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a lot of breads in the supermarkets and stuff, they
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still have the yoga mat material in them.
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Crazy. OK, what about Wonder Bread?
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It's just hyper processed, right?
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It's super simplified and just, it's almost like just having
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straight sugar, you know? Here we go.
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Here. Here's our ingredient list.
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Her Wonder Bread, Unbleached enriched flour, wheat flour,
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molted barley flour, niacin, reduced iron, thiamine, mono
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nitrate, riboflavin, full look out of it, blah blah, blah.
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So that's that whole thing then. Water, sugar, and then it says
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it also contains 2% or less of calcium carbonate, wheat gluten.
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So they put more gluten, soybean oil.
19:24
Delicious dough conditioners. Oh, wow, here, here's your dough
19:28
conditioners. Can you read that?
19:31
Lots of things. Let me see if I can pronounce
19:34
these things. Sodium sterile.
19:37
Sodium sterol lactolate. Yeah.
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Calcium sterolactylate, monoglycerides, mono and
19:46
diglycerides, Distilled monoglycerides, Calcium peroxide
19:50
OK. So again, those can cause
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That's exodus90.com/lila. So I was talking to somebody
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recently about their gut issues that they have and, and they had
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a lot of genetic risk for leaky gut, right?
21:08
And then they said, but my doctor told me leaky gut is not
21:11
a thing. And I'm like, like what your
21:14
doctor says leaky gut's not a thing.
21:16
We went to pub Med. You know what Pub Med is?
21:18
So for people that don't know, Pub Med is the official
21:21
government database for all the scientific research studies.
21:24
It's got millions of scientific peer reviewed studies.
21:27
We went to Pub Med and searched the term intestinal
21:30
permeability. That's the technical term for
21:32
leaky gut. And there was over 20,000
21:35
scientific studies on intestinal permeability, meaning it's very
21:38
well established thing. You can't deny that it happens.
21:42
And a lot of these different types of emulsifiers, which is
21:45
most of that list those they basically make things, you know,
21:50
they make your gut more permeable, they make more holes
21:53
in your gut or at least more just.
21:55
Follows to that. At least to food particles
21:57
coming into your bloodstream. And then your immune system
22:00
panics and starts attacking those food particles because
22:03
they're not supposed to be there.
22:04
They're supposed to be digested into the individual building
22:06
blocks. Like, think of Legos, right?
22:08
You're not supposed to have like a Lego ship.
22:10
You're supposed to break down the individual blocks when they
22:12
come into your body. But if you get the entire Lego
22:14
structure into your system, your immune system panics and starts
22:17
attacking it. And then you develop all kinds
22:19
of immune response, which is obviously bad because that can
22:23
create permanent immune response.
22:25
Or it just creates inflammation which causes you to feel tired.
22:28
I mean, think about if you have the flu, right?
22:30
You feel tired. It's inflammation all.
22:33
Right. Also Soy Lechin.
22:36
Always with the soy, yeah. Always with the soy, OK, And
22:39
then it says soy Lechin calcium propionate to retard spoilage.
22:47
Yeah, preservatives. More preservatives.
22:50
OK, so let's keep moving down the food aisle.
22:53
So we just were in the bread aisle.
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I want to just pull up the Dave's product, Dave's breads,
22:59
you know what I'm talking about. So this is a company that we
23:02
actually buy our we buy whole wheat bread from a lot and it
23:09
looks, it says organic bread, 21 whole grains and seeds.
23:13
It's called Dave's Killer Bread. So this is a brand, they make
23:15
bagels and all this stuff, but this ingredient list has always
23:18
concerned me a little bit because it's pretty extensive
23:20
and it has a lot of a lot of stuff in it.
23:22
So let's take a look. Organic wheat, organic whole
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wheat, organic cracked whole wheat.
23:28
OK, that doesn't that seems great, right?
23:30
And then it has your cane sugar. That's like the third ingredient
23:33
basically, which it's organic though, which is nice.
23:36
Organic, 21 whole grains and you've got a seed.
23:39
So you've got organic whole flock seed, you've got sunflower
23:44
seeds, you've got organic brown sesame seeds, You've got a
23:47
granic trical trical, you've got rolled barley and it says it's
23:51
21 grains. You've really got 20 ones.
23:53
And if you go down to the bottom, you get your salt, your
23:56
your yeast. What do you think?
23:58
Not too bad. No, I don't.
23:59
I don't see anything major there unless you have got issues.
24:01
Again, sometimes when people have got issues, it's surprising
24:04
how poorly they do with all those different seeds and
24:06
grains, not because of pesticides or spraying, but
24:10
because the seeds and grains have a lot of natural toxins.
24:14
The plants make defense toxins. Even coffee is technically a
24:16
seed, right? That's why a lot of people, if
24:19
they have a lot of gut issues, they do poorly with coffee.
24:21
They get it's a laxative, they get diarrhea, their body's
24:23
evacuating it. And if they have green tea with
24:26
just as much caffeine, if they have like a really heavy dose of
24:29
green tea, then you're fine. When they have a lot of gut
24:32
issues, right? It's not because the caffeine is
24:34
so problematic. It's a lot of times the seeds
24:36
versus leaves, right? OK, let's get to the cereal
24:39
aisle. We're going to the, you know,
24:41
the one that in some ways, and this has made a Froot Loops, I
24:45
think has gotten a special ire from the RFK world.
24:49
And RFK had a video, he particularly I think called out
24:52
Froot Loops was on the table, if I remember correctly, because of
24:54
the dyes. But let's look at Froot Loops
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Challenge with Hallow. They have.
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I'm sure they got yellow 5 and 6.
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They've got red 40. So we've got ingredients Corn
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flour blend whole grain yellow corn flour de germinated yellow
25:39
corn flour sugar wheat flour whole grain oat flour Modified
25:43
food starch contains 2 or less of vegetable oil, hydrogenated
25:47
coconut, soybean and or cotton seed.
25:50
Oat Fiber Maladextran Salt Soluble Corn Fiber Natural
25:54
Flavor Red 40 Yellow 5 Blue 1 Yellow 6 BHT for freshness.
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And by the way, just stop you there.
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Every single one of those you just mentioned is illegal in
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Europe. BHT illegal, Yellow four and
26:06
five illegal, Red 40 illegal, except we again you have to put
26:09
a disclaimer on the food if it has it and whatever the other
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one was, blue one. I think all of those are illegal
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in in Europe. And this is Froot Loops, which
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by the way, you can buy with food stamps if you're part of
26:22
your the SNAP program. And that's the thing, like a lot
26:25
of these things, they can be seem less expensive and often
26:28
they are less expensive than the organic, you know, granola or
26:31
whatever. And so you buy your Froot Loops
26:33
and then you have all of these food dyes in them.
26:36
So your in your view, the biggest culprit in your Froot
26:39
Loops is the food dyes in terms of.
26:41
No, I mean processed carbs, it's got everything.
26:45
It's got the seed oils, it's got the processed grains, it's got
26:49
the dyes, it's got BHT, which is linked to liver cancer.
26:54
You know, it's funny when you do animal research, if you want to
26:57
give the animals like the problem with a lot of animals
26:59
that they don't get cancer when you're trying to study them.
27:01
So you have to give them cancer and then you give them drugs to
27:04
try and cure the cancer. When they give them liver
27:06
cancer, they use BHT, they give them a bunch of BHT, get liver
27:09
cancer and then try and cure that with different drugs,
27:11
right. So that's not something you want
27:12
the. Ingredient.
27:13
They're putting in a lot of cereals and including Fruit
27:15
Loops is VHT is what they're actually giving to animals to
27:19
force them to get cancer, to run tests on them to try to remove
27:22
the cancer, and that's VHD. Exactly.
27:24
Liver cancer. So why?
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Toluene, I mean toluene is super toxic.
27:30
Like if you do organic chemistry and you work with toluene,
27:33
you're going to be working in a fume hood with like really good
27:38
protection. You know where you don't even
27:40
breathe that stuff in? Why?
27:42
Why is BHT legal in the United States to be put in, and
27:46
especially without a warning, into our cereals?
27:48
Well, I think a lot of the food that a lot of these chemicals
27:51
they come up with, they don't do a lot of safety testing.
27:54
They assume they're good until they find out they're bad, which
27:57
it should be the other way around.
27:58
When you make an artificial chemical that's not found in
28:00
nature, you should assume it's bad and then do a ton of
28:06
testing. And even then, I'm still a
28:07
little skeptical. But let's maybe open it up to
28:10
OP, you know, like, maybe make it legal if we've done a lot of
28:14
testing. But again, it's kind of flipped
28:16
on its head. It's a problem.
28:18
What are the problems with these dyes like red 40, yellow 5, blue
28:23
one and yellow 6? There's a lot of problems.
28:26
I mean, ADHD comes to mind, for example, they make you more
28:29
twitchy and, and you know, anxiety, higher anxiety.
28:36
And it's, again, it's some people, not everybody.
28:39
So it's hard to pin down. But yeah, it's, it's just, I, I
28:44
think it triggers your brain in certain ways.
28:46
And there's a long list of problems.
28:47
I mean, in RF KS video he listed like 10 things and he was
28:50
reading off a script or something.
28:51
So off the top of my head I don't know all the things, but I
28:53
know for sure ADHD is one of them.
28:56
OK, let's round this out with processed meats.
29:00
Let's start with maybe the worst offender and then let's go to
29:03
the most the the best processed meat in your view.
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What would be the worst offender of processed meats in your view?
29:12
Like summer sausage or something, something that's room
29:15
temperature that has so many chemicals and preserve.
29:18
I mean meat at room temperature with an expiration 2 years from
29:21
now is kind of a. Problem Salami.
29:23
What about those? Those beef jerkies that you get
29:26
the what are they called the red?
29:27
Ones true beef jerky. Yeah, well, those are super dry.
29:30
So anytime you dehydrate all the water out, a lot of times that's
29:33
a form of preservation that our ancestors used.
29:37
So bacteria only thrive in damp environments and wet
29:40
environments. So if you remove all the water
29:42
and you just have meat and salt or something, that's totally
29:44
fine. Now, obviously beef jerky,
29:46
that's not what they a lot of times they put a bunch of sugar
29:49
in there and a bunch of sneaky nonsense.
29:50
But again, like assuming you can find something clean, beef jerky
29:53
is great but. Just avoid beef jerky that has
29:57
too many preservatives or sugars.
29:59
Yeah, and usually they don't. So usually I'm OK with that.
30:01
But but in terms of like summer sausages and things, it's really
30:04
sketchy. Like there's some good ones that
30:06
you can probably make them yourself or find a butcher that
30:09
makes them that are good but what about?
30:12
What about your standard hot dog?
30:14
I'm going to go to the Costco hot dog because the Costco hot
30:19
dog is is legendary. And you know, so far Costco has
30:22
actually been doing pretty good with in this episode.
30:24
So I just searched for Costco hot dog on the Costco website.
30:27
Nothing is coming up right now, so we're going to try to find it
30:29
elsewhere. The Costco hot dog, there's an
30:31
entire Wikipedia page dedicated to the Hosco hot dog.
30:35
This is of course the famous hot dog because for decades now,
30:38
since 1984, you can get a Costco hot dog hot dog which is 1/4 of
30:42
a pound for only $1.50, along with a large sized soda drink,
30:47
which we can talk about soda being bad.
30:48
I think that's kind of a given here and as far as its impact on
30:52
your health. But I'm interested in the
30:54
ingredients of the Costco hot dog, so.
30:57
And by the way, I'm friends with Ken Berry.
30:59
He's got a YouTube channel and he he's a fan of hot dogs as
31:03
long as they have clean ingredients and things.
31:06
So people hate on hot dogs and sometimes they're actually fine.
31:08
They're just beef, water and salt.
31:10
Nice, here we go. Here's our hot dog from Costco.
31:14
It says beef, water, dextrose, salt, spices, sodium lactate,
31:24
garlic, paprika and extract, and sodium nitrate.
31:28
Yeah. So a lot of preservatives there
31:29
at the end. It's not the worst hot dog
31:32
you've ever seen, but it's not the.
31:33
Best it's up there. I mean, I wouldn't eat that.
31:35
I mean, again, you're basically eating antibiotics, right?
31:38
Like those preservatives are killing bacteria, right?
31:41
I mean, that's the point of having preservatives is to kill
31:45
and prevent bacteria from growing.
31:46
And your gut has all these healthy bacteria that you need.
31:49
And then if you eat something like that, you're just damaging
31:53
your gut bacteria population, right?
31:55
What is the best Turkey? The best deli Turkey.
32:02
In your. Idea What about this one?
32:04
This is the Dietz and Watson originals Turkey breast organic,
32:08
but it says no added hormones, no nitrates, no nitrates added
32:12
and then it says it's humanely raised gluten free.
32:14
No artificial preservatives, no MSG.
32:17
But then they throw carrageenan in there.
32:18
Yeah. So I mean, in general with
32:21
meats, the closer you can get to just meat, the battery, you're
32:24
good, meat, salt, sure, you know that.
32:26
What about nitrates? No nitrates.
32:28
Yeah, I'm not a fan. Again, you're killing bacteria.
32:30
I I get it. There's a ton of research on
32:32
them. And some plants have nitrates
32:34
like like celery and stuff has a lot of nitrates and nitrites.
32:38
And but again, if you start concentrating those and eating a
32:41
big dose of that with your meat, is there a bunch of evidence
32:45
that shows it kills a ton of gut bacteria?
32:47
No, because people aren't researching it.
32:49
There's no government funded studies that are going to look
32:51
at that. The government funding for
32:54
studies right now is focused on pharmaceutical drugs and how can
32:57
we make more of those, right. That's again, going back to this
33:01
whole like we need to change the philosophy of the way we're
33:04
doing research. Instead of focusing on more
33:07
drugs, we need to focus on more food safety and clean it up.
33:14
Do you have any hope that under RFK, with the awareness that
33:19
could be spread, whether he ends up getting his nomination, ends
33:22
up getting accepted or not? Do you have hope that with
33:26
enough awareness, things are going to change over the next
33:29
few years? Yeah, for sure.
33:31
And in fact, there's a ton of homeschooling families that I'm
33:34
friends with and even non homeschooling families that are
33:36
paying attention to their health and people that are optimizing
33:39
their health all across the country.
33:40
I talk to them everyday doing DNA consults.
33:42
So there's a massive grassroots movement of the with in this
33:47
country. And it's so obvious.
33:50
You can't deny it. And it's it's, you know, it's
33:53
just overwhelming evidence that something is wrong.
33:56
We have to fix something. And I think RFK is a good person
34:00
to do it. You know, he's got he's got good
34:03
intentions, I think, and I think he's on the right track looking
34:06
at these additives and preservatives and seed oils and
34:09
processed foods and skept being skeptical of the pharma
34:12
industry. Again, just start from a place
34:14
of skepticism. It's a great place to start.
34:16
Do you have personal goals with your work in exposing what's
34:21
happening with Big pharma and the food industry and what you'd
34:24
like to see happen in this country?
34:29
Yeah, I, I've worked with individual people.
34:31
So my goals are just to help people that are actually
34:33
motivated. You know, I don't like talking
34:35
to people like most people that come to doctors, they're not
34:38
that motivated. They just want a pill and they
34:40
want to move on, honestly. And it is frustrating for
34:42
doctors that actually want to do something good because most
34:45
people don't care enough. And I, I don't, I don't have a
34:49
lot of patience for that either. So what I do instead is I work
34:52
with people that actually want to change and actually want to
34:54
find out the truth and find out the right path for them.
34:56
And, and those are the people that are going to be healthier
35:00
and they're probably going to save our country, you know,
35:04
intellectually and spiritually, all of the things, right?
35:07
That's why, again, going back to homeschooling, I mean, the
35:11
public school system controls your eating.
35:13
You know, they control what foods the kids get to a large
35:16
degree across the country. They can they make people sit at
35:19
desks all day long, which is terrible for their physical
35:22
health. They make people, you know, do
35:25
all these tests and everything that are often times just
35:28
teaching kids to spit back answers, not think for
35:30
themselves. I mean, there's so many aspects
35:33
spiritually, pretty much God is illegal in in public schools.
35:36
So they've denigrated the education from, you know, the
35:42
perspective of God, our body, mind and soul, you know, so a
35:47
lot of it comes to these homeschoolers to save the
35:49
country too, in my opinion. And and it's, it's important.
35:54
Where can people find your work, Doctor Jay?
35:56
Ajconsultingcompany.com is my website.
35:59
Thank you. Thanks for thanks for
36:00
pioneering. I know you were mentioning
36:03
earlier RFK, you think read your book and I know some of the
36:07
first times there's even been a lexicon for estrogenics and
36:09
everything has been because of your work.
36:11
So thank you. You're welcome.
36:13
Yeah. Appreciate you having me.
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36:20
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