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"What’s Wrong with Tucker?" Carlson Sparks Outrage plus Hegseth goes Caribbean · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

• 0:01
  Speaker 1: So Tucker Carlson's a pretty interesting person to say the least.
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  Speaker 2: He's a guy that has been brilliant in his past.
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: But now you have to ask yourself this question, what
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: the hell is wrong and what's going on with Tucker Carlson.
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  Speaker 2: Now you may say, Ben, why are you saying this? Right?
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  Speaker 1: We shouldn't be saying this out loud about her own.
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  Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson had two really shocking things to say on
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  Speaker 1: his show this past week. Tucker said this, and I'm quoting,
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  Speaker 1: let me just say, I would be totally comfortable sharing
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  Speaker 1: condolences with the Osama Bin Lauden family. This is the
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  Speaker 1: man that attacked America and killed Americans on nine to eleven.
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  Speaker 1: And Tucker Carlson is now saying, I'd be totally comfortable
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  Speaker 1: sharing condolences with zamb Bin Lawden's family. And I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to play the clip for you in a moment. But
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  Speaker 1: that wasn't all that he said. There was another even
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  Speaker 1: more shocking moment where you have to say, what is
• 0:59
  Speaker 1: happening here? Tucker Carlson said, and I quote, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: even sure Hamas is actually a radical jeehatis organization. It
• 1:09
  Speaker 1: seems more like a political organization. By the way, Hamas
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  Speaker 1: disagrees with Tucker Carlson. Hamas is a radical Jihadis organization.
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  Speaker 1: They prove it over and over and over again. Now,
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  Speaker 1: this conversation I'm having with you now is also a
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  Speaker 1: conversation that I sit down with Center Ted Cruz in
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  Speaker 1: head and I want you to hear what Senata Cruz
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  Speaker 1: and I had to say, especially in light of that
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  Speaker 1: really nasty interview that Tuger Carlson did with Cinta Cruz
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  Speaker 1: in his office.
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  Speaker 2: It was a snarky interview.
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  Speaker 1: It was one that a lot of people were scratching
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  Speaker 1: their heads about afterwards, going what's going on?
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  Speaker 2: What is this about? Why is this happening?
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  Speaker 1: Why is he going after Ted Cruz with more intensity
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  Speaker 1: somebody that we're on the same team than he did
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  Speaker 1: with Vladimir Putin for example. Yes, that actually happened. Vladimir
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  Speaker 1: Putin he went easy on but conservatives, now he's attacking.
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  Speaker 1: That's not normal. I want you to listen to our
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  Speaker 1: conversation that we had about these two comments, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to play them for you here.
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  Speaker 2: They are all right, Senatra.
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  Speaker 1: I want to move to another issue, and this one
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  Speaker 1: deals with Tucker Carlson. I was actually genuinely shocked by
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  Speaker 1: the audio when this broke. I really couldn't believe what
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  Speaker 1: I was witnessing when this audio broke. Tucker Carlson is
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  Speaker 1: now coming out and he's like saying he wants to
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  Speaker 1: give condolences to Asamin Lauden's family, and he says he's
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  Speaker 1: not even sure the Hamas is actually a radical Jihadis organization.
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  Speaker 2: Those are his words. What in the hell is going
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  Speaker 2: on here?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Ben, you and I both know Tucker Carlson well,
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  Speaker 3: and something is wrong with Tucker Carlson. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: what the hell is wrong with him, But look, Tucker
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  Speaker 3: is someone He's very smart, He's very talented. During the
• 3:03
  Speaker 3: COVID lockdowns, Tucker's monologue every night was destination TV. He
• 3:09
  Speaker 3: was unloading on idiotic practices that were shutting our country down.
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  Speaker 3: I called him the midst of COVID. I said, Tucker,
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  Speaker 3: you're the single best thing on television every single night.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you for doing what you're doing. I look at
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  Speaker 3: the Tucker today, he is unrecognizable. As listeners of this
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  Speaker 3: podcast know. I went on Tucker's show, I knew Tucker
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  Speaker 3: was going to come after me. I knew he was
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  Speaker 3: going to come after me and sadly do so dishonestly.
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  Speaker 3: In the course of that two hour back and forth,
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  Speaker 3: it was a lot of firefight. It was a bloodbath.
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  Speaker 3: I think on both sides. You saw Tucker engage in
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  Speaker 3: bizarre counterfactual assertions. He said, for example, Iran's not trying
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  Speaker 3: to kill the president. What do you mean, no, no, no, no, no, Iran,
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  Speaker 3: There's no evidence Iran's trying to kill the president. That is,
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  Speaker 3: of course absurd. Multiple people have been indicted for being
• 4:00
  Speaker 3: Iranian agents, trying to kill the president, trying to kill
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  Speaker 3: former US senior officials. But but and and Tucker bizarrely said,
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  Speaker 3: you know, if Iran was trying to kill the president,
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  Speaker 3: well then we should nuke them, which which was a
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  Speaker 3: really bizarre proposition. No, we should not be nuking Iran
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  Speaker 3: or anyone else. But I got to say, the week
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  Speaker 3: that that I did the Tucker interview was the week
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  Speaker 3: right before the President launched the bombing attack on Iran's
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  Speaker 3: nuclear facilities. And and Tucker was was spiraling at the
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  Speaker 3: time because he was attacking Donald Trump and saying, if
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  Speaker 3: the United States bombs Iran, he said it will be
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  Speaker 3: World War three. Number one. Yeah, he said thousands of
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  Speaker 3: Americans will die. Number two, and he said America will lose.
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  Speaker 3: Number three, that Iran will beat us in World War three. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: every one of.
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  Speaker 1: Those actually said. At the time, it was shocking when
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  Speaker 1: he said. Everybody was like, what are you talking about?
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  Speaker 1: America is going to lose to Iran? Are you kidding me?
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  Speaker 3: Every one of those predictions we now know the truth.
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  Speaker 3: They were laughingly, entirely totally false. And I got to say,
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  Speaker 3: for some reason, when Tucker tried desperately to convince President
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  Speaker 3: Trump not to bomb Iran's nuclear facilities and Donald Trump
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  Speaker 3: disagreed with Tucker Carlson, and Tucker put out his newsletter
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  Speaker 3: and said, well, you're not America first if you bomb Iran,
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  Speaker 3: and Trump responded, no, I'm the one that decides what
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  Speaker 3: America First is, and I'm telling you right now, defending
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  Speaker 3: America is America first. I gotta say it just started
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  Speaker 3: Tucker on this downward spiral. So in the weeks and
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  Speaker 3: months since then, he had some loon professor on talking
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  Speaker 3: about Hitler and saying, you know, there's a very good
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  Speaker 3: argument the United States should have intervened in World War
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  Speaker 3: II on the side of Hitler and the Nazis, and
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  Speaker 3: Tucker kind of nods, No, there is not a good
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  Speaker 3: argument America should have forwarded the Nazis. The Nazis were evil,
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  Speaker 3: period the end. I gotta say, any commentator, if you're
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  Speaker 3: sitting around thinking, you know what I need to do.
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  Speaker 3: I need to go out and embrace Adolf Hitler, defend Hitler.
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  Speaker 3: Just pause right there.
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  Speaker 2: Think about what you're doing.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: There are very few ironclad rules in politics, or history
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  Speaker 3: or life, but I'll give you one. Eight off Hitler always, always,
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  Speaker 3: always bad. Just trust me. This is a safe ground
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  Speaker 3: to be on. Hitler bad.
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  Speaker 2: Can we add number two to the list real quick?
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  Speaker 2: Because if you.
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  Speaker 1: Go Hitler first, let's throw in there next for especially
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  Speaker 1: for people that are I don't know, forty five and under.
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  Speaker 1: The most evil guy that we probably saw in our
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  Speaker 1: lifetime in real life, and that was a guy by
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  Speaker 1: the name of Osama bin Lauden, right, I guess throw
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  Speaker 1: him out there in nine to eleven if you were alive,
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  Speaker 1: if you remember it, Osama bin lades another one, don't
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  Speaker 1: don't side with adof Hitler. And if you were my age,
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  Speaker 1: I'm forty four now, don't whatever you do, don't side
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  Speaker 1: with a Sama bin Laden, which brings us to this
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  Speaker 1: unhinged Tucker point number two.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I just want you to listen to what
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  Speaker 3: Tucker had to say about Osama bin Laden. Give a listen.
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  Speaker 5: Let me just say I would be totally comfortable sharing
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  Speaker 5: condolences with Isama bin Laden's family. I hate Asama bin Laden.
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  Speaker 5: On the other hand, if somebody dies, it's okay to
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  Speaker 5: say I'm sorry to his family that he has murder.
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  Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's immaterial. I would say
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  Speaker 5: that to the family of an executed murderer in a prison.
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  Speaker 5: It doesn't mean I support the murder or the murderer,
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  Speaker 5: but this is family, Like, that's okay. That's called like
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  Speaker 5: human decency. And anyone who's against that. Yeah, and even
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  Speaker 5: were set up this.
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  Speaker 1: Let me just be clear, if I meet any of
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  Speaker 1: the Osama bin Laden family members center, I'm not going
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  Speaker 1: to walk up back. Let me give you American hug,
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  Speaker 1: real quick thoughts and prayers like, No, that's not gonna happen.
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  Speaker 3: Look, this is a bizarre position that Tucker says he's
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  Speaker 3: okay with giving condolences to Osama bin Ladden's family. By
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  Speaker 3: the way, on his same reasoning, he'd be just fine
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  Speaker 3: giving condolences to Adolf Hitler's family. Let me tell you
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  Speaker 3: right now, I am not remotely sorry that Osama bin
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  Speaker 3: Lauden is dead. I'm not remotely sorry that Adolf Hitler
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  Speaker 3: is dead. By the way, I'm not remotely sorry that
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  Speaker 3: Jeffrey Dahmer is dead. I'm not remotely sorry that Ted
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  Speaker 3: Bundy is dead. I'm not remotely sorry that Charles Manson
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  Speaker 3: is dead. If people are evil, psychotic mass murderers, then
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  Speaker 3: society celebrates that they are no longer with us. There
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  Speaker 3: is justice. I believe in the principle of justice and understand.
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  Speaker 3: Osama bin Laden led out Kaita. He planned nine to eleven.
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  Speaker 3: He executed nine to eleven, in which case nearly three
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  Speaker 3: thousand people, most of whom were Americans, were murdered. On
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  Speaker 3: September eleventh, You and I were both alive. I was
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  Speaker 3: in Washington, d C. Heidi was in the White House
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  Speaker 3: at the US Trade Representative's office. On nine to eleven.
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  Speaker 3: She evacuated the White House because those terrorists were murdering people.
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  Speaker 3: I lost a friend of mine, Barbara Olsen in the
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  Speaker 3: plane that crashed into the Pentagon when the two towers
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  Speaker 3: collapsed to New York City, that was a grotesque act
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  Speaker 3: of war. By the way, I'm also not sorry that
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  Speaker 3: the kamikaze pilots in Pearl Harbor who murdered American sailors,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sorry that they're dead. There is something bizarre.
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  Speaker 3: There is a moral relativism to saying, well, we should
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  Speaker 3: number one carry out an incredible military act that takes
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  Speaker 3: out Wasama bin Laden, But then number two express condolences
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  Speaker 3: to the family, to the toddlers, We're so sorry we
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  Speaker 3: took out your psychotic daddy who murdered near the three
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  Speaker 3: thousand Americans know we're not sorry. And this moral relativism,
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  Speaker 3: I gotta say it is a weird thing. Yeah, when
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  Speaker 3: someone who considers himself calls himself a conservative sounds exactly
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  Speaker 3: like Ilhan Omar. It is a weird thing when a
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  Speaker 3: supposed conservative sounds like Rashida Talib, sounds like the AOC
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  Speaker 3: and says, gosh, we ought to be saying I'm sorry
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  Speaker 3: to Osama bin Laden's family. No, we should not.
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  Speaker 1: It's also weird that he goes in this way like
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  Speaker 1: attacking America in our foreign policy in essence, and anybody
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  Speaker 1: that doesn't feel sorry for Terras, while also giving propaganda
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  Speaker 1: out there on behalf of Vladimir Putin and Russia with
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  Speaker 1: the interview that he did with him, and then going
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  Speaker 1: shopping at the grocery store saying how great life is
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  Speaker 1: in Russia, which if you go twenty miles outside of
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  Speaker 1: Russia in any direction of Moscow, it's very different than
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  Speaker 1: what it looks like for the elite that are in Moscow.
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  Speaker 1: And everything in his trip was, by the way, also controlled.
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  Speaker 1: They only let you see what they want you to see.
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  Speaker 1: It's not like he can roam freely and decide, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to go to the groth shore.
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  Speaker 2: You send me too.
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  Speaker 1: I want to go to another one that ain't gonna happen.
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  Speaker 1: And then you go from this to what he had
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  Speaker 1: to say about a terrorist organization that is killed countless Jews,
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  Speaker 1: and it said from the river to the sea, they
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  Speaker 1: want to take out and annihilate all all Jews in Israel.
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  Speaker 1: They want Israel to cease to exist. And he's like, well,
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  Speaker 1: hold on a second, maybe they're not a terrorist organization.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe they're just a political organization. We should think about that.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, what the hell's going on?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, give a listen to what he said about hamasbus
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  Speaker 3: because this is utterly bizarre. This is where Tucker has
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  Speaker 3: gone full on woke leftist and don't take my word
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  Speaker 3: for it. Listen to Tucker.
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  Speaker 5: No one can plausibly claim that a Christian family are
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  Speaker 5: in Hamas. Okay, so like, what tell me you can't
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  Speaker 5: claim it there in Hamas? Will simultaneously claiming that Hamas
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  Speaker 5: is a you know, grubugie hattis their Islamic extremists, which
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  Speaker 5: they also claim constantly, which I don't know if that's true,
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  Speaker 5: by the way, it seems more like a political organization.
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  Speaker 5: But whatever it is, they're telling us constantly they're al Qaida,
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  Speaker 5: So it can't also be true that Christians are a member.
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  Speaker 2: Of al Qaida.
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  Speaker 5: Sorry, yeah, yeah, So then we know they're not a Hamas.
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  Speaker 5: So why did they get killed? Why was their church book?
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  Speaker 1: I go back to this, and I again, it's like
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  Speaker 1: he's become an apologist for a terrorist organization and he's saying, well,
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  Speaker 1: they're not really a terrorist organization, and then the Christian
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  Speaker 1: aspect of this intertwarting that they're going, well, then why
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  Speaker 1: do we kill them? We kill people that are terrorist centered,
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  Speaker 1: that's what we do.
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  Speaker 3: Well, what he's saying there is bizarre. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: that Hamas is a terrorist organization. Let me be very clear,
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  Speaker 3: Hamas is a terrorist organizations.
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  Speaker 1: Tell you that, am I wrong? Like they'll actually tell
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  Speaker 1: you they're a terrorist organization. They're happy to tell you
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  Speaker 1: this and show you how good they are at it.
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  Speaker 3: Al Qaeda is a terrorist organization. ISIS is a terrorist organization.
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  Speaker 3: This is not just a question of opinion. This is
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  Speaker 3: a question of facts. So let's give some fact. Article
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  Speaker 3: eight of the nineteen eighty eight Hamas Covenant states quote
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  Speaker 3: Jahad is its path, and death for the sake of
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  Speaker 3: Allah is the loftiest of his wishes. This is who
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  Speaker 3: Tucker Pearlson is defending. Globally, HAMAS is designated a terrorist
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  Speaker 3: organization by the United States of America, that as a
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  Speaker 3: matter of federal law, by Australia, by Canada, by Paraguay,
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  Speaker 3: by Israel, by Japan, by New Zealand, by the United Kingdom.
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  Speaker 3: In the European Union. Now, HAMAS is not formally designated
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  Speaker 3: by Arab countries, but HAMAS is a branch of the
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  Speaker 3: Muslim Brotherhood. By the way, I have legislation in the
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  Speaker 3: Senate right now to designate the Muslim Brotherhood as a
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  Speaker 3: terrorist organization because they unquestionably are. Article two of Hamasa's
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  Speaker 3: charter describes them as quote one of the wings of
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  Speaker 3: the Muslim Brotherhood in Palestine, the Muslim Brotherhood, the Umbrella
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  Speaker 3: organization is designated as a terrorist organization in Bahrain, in
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  Speaker 3: Egypt and Saudi Arabia, and in the UAE. They have
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  Speaker 3: always been a terrorist organization if you just look at Wikipedia.
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  Speaker 3: No no friend of Israel, no enemy of Hamas. Here's
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  Speaker 3: what Wikipedia says. Quote from two thousand and two thousand
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  Speaker 3: and four, Hamas was responsible for killing nearly four hundred
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  Speaker 3: Israelis and wounding more than two thousand and four hundred
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  Speaker 3: and twenty five attacks. According to the Israeli Ministry of
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  Speaker 3: Foreign Affairs, from two thousand and one through May of
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  Speaker 3: two thousand and eight, Hamas launched more than three thousand
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  Speaker 3: cassam rockets and two five hundred mortar attacks into Israel.
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  Speaker 3: And of course, Hamas is who carried out the October
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  Speaker 3: seventh attacks, who sent death squads into Israel, where they
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  Speaker 3: systematically went house to house, murdering every person in the house,
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  Speaker 3: targeting them because they are Jews. They murdered elderly people,
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  Speaker 3: they murdered women, they murdered children, they murdered infants, they
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  Speaker 3: murdered toddlers, They raped women and little girls, and they
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  Speaker 3: murdered over twelve hundred Israelis, many of whom were Americans.
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  Speaker 3: It's one of the worst terror attacks in history against
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  Speaker 3: American citizens. And Tucker says, well, I think they're a
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  Speaker 3: political organization. He bases this on the weird fact. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: it is true that in the Gaza Strip when they
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  Speaker 3: had elections, Hamas won. The fact that the voters elected
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  Speaker 3: a Torque terrorist organization does not make them a political organization.
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  Speaker 3: They were in elected office when they carried out the
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  Speaker 3: October seventh terror attacks. And so I got to say, look,
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  Speaker 3: this bizarre statement wasn't in the course of an episode
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  Speaker 3: where Tucker was interviewing this disgruntled State Department employee who
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: was fired fired by the Trump administration, and he was
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  Speaker 3: giving him an opportunity. And by the way, he was
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  Speaker 3: also slandering a young man who works for the State Department,
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: works for Mike Huckabee, the president Trump's ambassador to Israel
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  Speaker 3: works for Marco Rubio, and Tucker did an entire segment
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  Speaker 3: attacking this young man because he's Mark Levin's step son.
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  Speaker 3: I gotta say it is grotesque for Tucker to go
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  Speaker 3: after again. He hates Mark Levin.
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  Speaker 1: He does, and let's explain why real quick, because I'm look,
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  Speaker 1: Mark's a dear friend of mine in yours as well.
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  Speaker 1: This is a relative, Mark Levin. Mark Levin is clearly
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  Speaker 1: an advocate for Israel.
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  Speaker 2: He has stood and for America, let's be clear, and
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  Speaker 2: for America America.
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  Speaker 1: And so now since Tucker Carlson, I guess is like,
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  Speaker 1: all right, well, anybody under that I don't like, right,
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  Speaker 1: Mark Levin a family member, Let's just hammer that person
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  Speaker 1: to somehow make it hurt. I wish you had this
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  Speaker 1: much animosity towards Vladimir Putin when he was interviewing him.
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  Speaker 3: No, and by the way, not just Flatimir Putin, heyet
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  Speaker 3: the president of Iran. And I mean it was a
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: love fest. I mean he practically spooned with the President
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  Speaker 3: of Iran. I don't know if he was big spoon
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  Speaker 3: or little spoon, but but there was no skeptism. And
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  Speaker 3: by the way, He's literally interviewing someone who is actively
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  Speaker 3: trying to murder Donald Trump. And this is a weird game.
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  Speaker 3: So listen. Tucker recognizes that the folks that listen to
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: him will get very mad at him if he explicitly
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  Speaker 3: criticizes Donald Trump. So what does he do?
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  Speaker 2: Instead?
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  Speaker 3: He just criticizes everything Trump does. He blasts. He has
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  Speaker 3: a whole segment on how Mike Huckabee is terrible. Well,
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: who is it that appointed Mike Huckabee the ambassador to Israel?
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  Speaker 3: That would be Donald J. Trump. And everything he attacks
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  Speaker 3: about Ambassador Huckabee he is doing on behalf of Trump.
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  Speaker 3: But Tucker is unwilling. He doesn't have the courage, he
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  Speaker 3: doesn't have the backbone to actually attack Trump, so he
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  Speaker 3: just attacks everything Trump does. He attacks bombing Iran, well,
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  Speaker 3: who was the commander in chief who made the order
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  Speaker 3: and by the way, that was an incredibly successful military
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  Speaker 3: operation that made America safer. I gotta say, listen, if
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: you say something publicly and the words you said are
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  Speaker 3: indistinguishable from something said by Ilhan Omar Rashida to that
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  Speaker 3: ought to be a sign you've got a problem. And
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what's going on with Tucker, I don't
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  Speaker 3: know what is driving. It's one thing to feel kind
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  Speaker 3: of isolationist and to say, gosh, you know, I don't
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  Speaker 3: like wars. Okay, fine, that is a view. And to
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: be clear, Donald Trump doesn't like wars either. Joe Biden
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  Speaker 1: Ben Pete ed Seth. He is a Defense secretary. He
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  Speaker 1: has arrived in Puerto Rico amid the US Venezuela tensions
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  Speaker 1: that are continuing to rise. This is an important visit
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  Speaker 1: because it was unannounced and not only was the US
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Defense Secretary there, but the Joint Chiefs Chairman, General Kine
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: also was on the trip. It was an unannounced visit,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: an unplanned visit for the public to Puerto Rico, as
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: the US has ramped up military activities in the Caribbean
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: aimed at drug trafficking networks. They met officials at the
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty six Wing Air National Guard Base head.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Seth addressed roughly three hundred service members while he was there.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: And the question you may be asking yourself is this
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: why now? Well, it's pretty simple. The trip follows a
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: September the second US military strike in the Southern Caribbean
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  Speaker 1: that sank a vessel departing Venezuela, with US offishal saying
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: eleven suspected members of the Trend de Ragua cartel.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: They are also a terrorist organization. We're all killed.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Some regional leaders backed the action, others urged more transparency.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Venezuela also deny the US allegations and criticize the operation,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: and that's exactly what should be expected. So now the
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: question is why is the Pentagon weighing Puerto Rico as
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: a hub or is this more about expanding COUNTERNARCOTIS operations
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: all together? Now we also know that plans include deploying
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: ten F thirty five fighter jets of the island and
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: conducting military flights out of Puerto Rico. An unusually large
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: cluster of US warships, about eight is already operating in
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: the region as well.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Marines are also on the island.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: Elements of the twenty second Marine Unit are in Puerto
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Rico for amphibious and flight training. We've been told Puerto
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Rico's governor estimated at one thousand marines on the island,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: and the Guard says the training was pre planned and
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: quote not tied to the new maritime force. CBS News
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: had it this way on the unplanned visit and what
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: it can mean.
• 24:12
  Speaker 6: Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseeth and Chairman of the Joint
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: Chiefs Dan Kane arrived in Puerto Rico this morning as
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: tension continues to build between the United States and Venezuela.
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: They were welcome there by Puerto Rico Governor Jennifer Gonzalez,
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: who said on in part on X we thank President
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: Trump and his administration for recognizing the strategic value Puerto
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: Rico has to the national security of the United States
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: and the fight against drug cartels in our hemisphere perpetuated
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: by Narco dictator Nicholas Maduro. For more on this, I
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: want to bring in John Burns. He is the strategic
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: director for Concerned Veterans for America after serving more than
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: twenty two years in the Marine Corps and the Army
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: National Guard. Thank you very much for joining us. What
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: does this arrival here of Hegseth and Kane to Puerto
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: Rico's signal to.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: Well, thank you Nancy for having me on. I think
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of signals there. One of the key
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: takeaways for me, aside from just the situation with Venezuela
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: and the drug situation in the Caribbean, is the National
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: Defense Strategy, which a little overdue, is said to be
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: released within the next seven to ten days, and early
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: reporting indicates that there's a large pivot towards defense of
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: the American hemisphere and away from heavily being heavily engaged
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: in other parts of the world Europe. I think there's
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: probably still going to be an emphasis to a degree
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: on the Indo Pacific, maybe not as much as we thought,
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: but this is the key role that our Department of Defense,
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: Department of War should be playing. Our primary interest is
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: securing our hemisphere and our homeland.
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: John. Of course, this arrival, this trip comes with the
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: backdrop of the United States to point eight warships and
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: fighter jets into that area, in addition to a massing
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: troops off Puerto Rico.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: If this is a.
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: War on drugs, what kind of guardrails, if any, exists
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: for the President to send troops into Venezuela.
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: Well, the President has said that he doesn't want to.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: He's not considering this a regime change mission, which I
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: think was very very encouraging now.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Right, as much as the media tries to lie to
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: you and tell you that the President's going for regime change,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: that is not what this is about at all. This
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: is all about fighting narco terrorism. And yes they are
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: terrorists that are killing Americans. So you may ask yourself
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: this question, why Puerto Rico, Why would you choose this
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: for this counter cartel operation. Well, it's pretty simple geography.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Island sit inside the
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Caribbean transit Zone, historically a gateway for cocaine, fetnol and
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: other drugs headed to the mainland USA. That strategic position
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: plus US sovereignty eases the basing, the logistics, and also
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: the prosecutions of those that are caught alive. And then
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: you just have access and response times from a military standpoint.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: From Puerto Rico, aircraft and ships can quickly reach the
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Mona Passage, the Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico Corridor, and the
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: sea lanes north of Venezuela, improving time to intercept for
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: go fast boats and motherships.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: This builds on the.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Intricacies and the model that has been used by the
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Coast Guard there for years as well.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: What is this all really about.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: It's about setting a clear message at the present is
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: going on offense that the literal war on cartels has
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: just begun. And this is part of where Puerto Rico
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: also comes in. You have additional air and maritime assets
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: in Puerto Rico. This will help with surveillance and interaction
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: coverage over the choke points where traffckers are most vulnerable
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: at sea. The Coastguards layered approach, as it was described
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: by the White House, will have large cutters, aircraft and
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: partner forces and all the benefits of the DoD platforms
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: and their increase presence combined. So it's pretty simple. The
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: President United States of America is saying, we are going
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: all in and we're going to do this with all
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: of the technology and the forces that America has. Now,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: the other question is what's going to happen next? What
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: should you be looking for? Well, let me go through
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: that for you, because there's one big aspect of this
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: it's going to matter a lot, and that is whether
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: the F thirty five deployment is confirmed and then where
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: are they based. This is going to have a huge
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: impact on the assets that are tied to whatever the
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: mission is has been declared or set by the administration. Yes,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: there are questions that are being asked by the left
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: about congressional oversight of legal authorities and targeting rules for
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: future strikes, but the President United States of America feels
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: like he is on strong legal footing because he has
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: declared them terrorists organizations. And then there's the integration with
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: the Coast Guard and also the Navy ships. The regional
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: cooperation levels between these two organizations will clearly be noticeable overall. Now,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: if you look at what the President has said, the
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: President has said it is very possible that we will
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: be hitting terras wherever they are. Does that mean we
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: can be hitting terras in Venezuela, Yes, there is a
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: chance of that. Is this about regime change? No, The
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: same thing can go for Mexico. As the President made
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: it clear last week, that we have an obligation and
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: a moral duty to make sure that Americans are not
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: being killed with the fetnyl and other drugs coming across
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: our southern border. So this is the present paying off
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: on a campaign promise. It's also clearly the beginning of
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: the war, not the end of the war for the
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: President of the United States of America. When it comes
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: to the cartels, the presidents said that they are a
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: very very dangerous organization and we us stop them, and
• 30:01
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