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E188: From Wall Street to Exorcisms w/ Fr. Dan Reehil · The Lila Rose Show

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  Eventually he was fully possessed and he died 3 times.
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  What do you mean? During his possession.
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  That's the day I said never again.
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  I'm not going back to church. Of course it's soul crushing and
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  you don't know what to believe or how to process.
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  He levitated off the couch while I was praying with.
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  Him. You saw that?
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  Yes. How far off the couch was he?
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  Foot and a half like a puppet. It's not.
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  The goal of the devil is make everybody possessed.
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  His goal is to get everybody to go to hell.
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  Do you think our Western society is more evil than it was 4050
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  years ago? A. 100% because of things like.
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  Hello guys, welcome back to the Lila Rose Show.
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  I'm so glad that you're here. We're going to be sitting down
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  today with Father Dan Rehill, who is a priest and an exorcist
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  from the Diocese of Nashville. He shares his personal story
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  about how he was deeply wounded actually by the church and ended
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  up becoming not only a priest but an exorcist.
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  His incredible story personally of forgiveness.
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  He also shares about how to be battle ready for the spiritual
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  battle that is unfolding around us.
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  He actually has a podcast called Battle Ready and he talks about
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  some of the most difficult things he's encountered as an
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  exorcist, ways to spiritually protect ourselves and our loved
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  ones and have hope. Also, you guys, did you know
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  that notification bell. Father Danry Hill, thanks so
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  much for joining the podcast. Well, I'm happy to be here,
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  Lila. Thank you.
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  You're amazing, thank you. But truly, I mean, the ministry
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  that you're doing and I've, you know, I see from a distance its
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  impact and we're going to hear more about that in today's
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  interview. But you know, first with Michael
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  Knowles, I know you just did another huge podcast in the last
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  month with really millions of people engaging with what you're
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  saying and it's incredibly powerful and helping, I think
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  millions of souls. So thank you for your
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  willingness to speak out about spiritual warfare and and your
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  ministry. Thank you.
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  Thank you very much. You know, years ago, we kept
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  hearing about the New Evangelization.
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  And I remember looking around at other seminarians and priests
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  going, well, what is that? And nobody really knew.
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  Like, it was like, it was talked about a lot, but nobody really
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  put a thumb on the pulse and said, here's what it looks like.
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  I think this is what it looks like because this is actually
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  reaching a whole new generation of people who really weren't in
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  tune with the church and they're what you have to go meet them
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  where they are. I mean, that's what Christ did.
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  That's what the apostles did. And I think with social media,
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  with podcasts, with YouTube, as much as they can be irritating,
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  annoying and sinful, they can actually be used for good as
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  well. Amen.
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  I hope so. That's what we're trying to do
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  here. You are.
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  You are an exorcist. And we were just talking before
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  we sat down about how even just in the last few years, exorcist
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  coming out and sharing about their ministry was not common.
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  And in fact, they were kind of secretive and hidden within
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  dioceses. There would be priests in a
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  diocese, you know, certain geographic part of the church
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  where people wouldn't even know who the exorcist was.
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  It was kind of hush, hush. Now, you yourself, we've had a
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  couple other exorcist on the show over the last, you know,
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  almost two years now. And there's other folks that are
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  coming out and sharing about what it means to combat the
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  devil and. You know what's?
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  Your take on why this is happening more You know why?
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  Why there's more of this happening as opposed to that
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  more quiet approach from just a few years ago?
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  Well, honestly, back around 2000, the year 2000, I was still
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  living in New York and found the Benedict Rochelle was directing
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  me and he told me something very interesting, he said.
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  You know, because I mentioned something about the, you know,
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  the evil that was going on even in the church.
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  And I said, you know what? What's your take on all this?
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  And he says there's only 18 exorcists in the country.
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  Imagine that in 25 years ago, he said there's about 18 exorcists
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  in this whole country. He says we really need more like
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  1000, more like the Canon lawyer numbers, like 2500 Canon
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  lawyers. But, but until that shifts or
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  the culture shifts back to God, there's a problem here.
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  So first of all, there weren't very many of them.
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  The ones that we had, the church had always said it's better to
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  stay hidden even from the, their own presbyterate that didn't
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  know where they were. So you'd call the Chancery, the
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  chancellor would notify the excess, the excess would go
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  directly to the, the, the victimized subject.
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  But in the last 10 years or so, there's actually organized
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  meetings of exorcist. So we have conferences where we
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  get together to share what's going on in our regions.
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  If there's something new we should know about and share with
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  other other exorcists and just trends that are happening from
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  those meetings, you know, we started talking and I remember a
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  few people had mentioned to me, like Father Vince Lampert and
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  Monsignor Rosetti, that said we it would be better to be
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  teaching the general public what to be aware of, not to be
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  highlighting what the devil's doing.
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  We don't want to give him any glory, but we can just teach
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  spiritual warfare and start letting people know you should
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  be aware of these things. These are dangerous.
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  Like if you had a little child, don't, don't reach up on the
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  stove. If the flame is there, it's hot.
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  You can get hurt. So similarly in the spiritual
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  life, we wanted to start getting out there to do that and to do,
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  you can't do it anonymously. Nobody's going to give you any.
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  Follow somebody who's hidden behind a mask and say, I hope
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  he's telling the truth. So you have to become more
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  public with it. But in the process, there were,
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  you know, certain bishops were OK with it.
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  This is what started happening. And and now today, I find many
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  people are reaching back to us to let us know.
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  Wow, didn't know that was a problem.
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  But now that I look at what you talked about or even with the
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  Exodus files that Father Carlos was producing, people are
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  learning from real life scenarios.
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  This is a danger. Please don't do it.
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  You said 20, so there was Father Benedict Rochelle.
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  You said 25 years ago told you there were just 18 exorcist in
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  all of the United States. That's crazy.
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  How many do you think there are now?
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  Any sense? Hard to say.
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  There's still diocese that don't have any.
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  And the Vatican did mandate every diocese must have an
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  exorcist, but there are reluctant bishops who are not
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  doing it. I know in New York I had a woman
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  reach out that said can I fly to you because my diocese doesn't
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  have one. She was.
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  Experiencing depression, demonic oppression, or what was she?
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  Facing combination, she was borderline possessed and she had
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  lost her job. She couldn't function.
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  And her own diocese said we don't have anybody to help you.
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  And she says I'm willing to fly there to do it.
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  And I said, you know, I don't know if that's a good idea
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  because it's like, it's not a one and done.
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  I can't promise you I can do anything with just a day.
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  Perhaps a bordering diocese, you could cross over to the next
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  diocese and they could help you. But it's happening more and more
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  and then when people find out about you, they think, well, I
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  guess this is where I have to go.
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  I had a gentleman show up two months ago who drove 18 hours
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  without an appointment and just landed at the parish.
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  It was Saturday night. I just finished the visual Mass
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  and the was going down to the social hall to bless a meal for
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  the nights or some function that was going on.
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  And I didn't even know he was there.
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  But the Deacon was talking to him and said, you know, well,
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  Father's kind of tied up right now.
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  What can I help you with? And he says, well, I really need
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  to talk to him. And he said, if you're serious,
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  you know, you know, maybe stay for a Mass in the morning and
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  after tomorrow morning's Mass, he can talk to.
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  And he did. And it was an interesting story
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  because he wanted to come into the church.
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  He didn't have any religion in his life.
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  And he was working for, he said, an agency, government agency.
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  And I said, well, this is not. You didn't have to drive here.
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  You can go to your local parish, talk to the pastor, asked to be
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  enrolled into the formation, to become a Catholic.
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  He said, honestly, Father, I'm never at home ever.
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  Every week I'm on a new assignment.
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  Sometimes in other states, sometimes in other countries.
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  It's that kind of job. And I said, so as it all shook
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  out, we were able to help him in one way or another.
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  But you know, that's also something that happens.
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  You know, people will just come and, and what can you do?
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  You have to at least try to help them because they've made the
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  journey. So in that case he wasn't the
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  facing demonic oppression or possession, it was more just he
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  wanted the faith. Yes, he he believed his life was
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  in danger and we believed him too.
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  And so that day he was baptized and confirmed.
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  Why did he think his life was in danger?
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  It's a, it's a tricky story that I can't make public, but he had
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  uncovered a child sex trafficking ring in his, this is
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  part of his job. He's working for this agency,
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  one of our government agents that does that.
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  And it got, he got shot at twice.
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  His vest saved him, but he thought there was a hit on him
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  and he was now leaving the country for at least six months
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  to try to, you know, evade them. So we took it as a credible
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  threat and we, we brought him into the church.
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  I gave him a Bible. I gave him a catechism, A
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  rosary, how to pray the rosary. We spent about two hours with
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  him. And so he, we sent him on his
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  way. We never took any exchanged
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  information. He thought that was unsafe for
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  us. And I never heard back from him.
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  But that day, he was given the faith.
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  And this was just. A couple of months ago.
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  A couple months ago you you must have a pretty, not just crazy
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  schedule, but a lot of crazy encounters like that one.
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  It's not an ordinary life by any stretch, which is kind of
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  interesting because when I left my life as a banker, which was a
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  crazy life, and I thought I'm going to be a priest, it's going
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  to be a mild, tame existence. It, it's nothing.
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  It, it's a good life. It's and it's a wonderful life,
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  but it is nothing like what I thought it would be.
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  That makes any sense? So you were a banker before
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  becoming a priest. Can you Share your story?
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  And I, I, we're obviously going to explore your ministry now,
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  but you have a really fascinating story about before,
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  before the priesthood of your life and then your conversion.
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  I'd love to hear about your background.
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  Yeah, so when I tell this story, it's kind of funny for people
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  because I grew, I was born in 65 New York, grew up as a teenager
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  in the 70s and then young adult in the 80s.
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  So when I was growing up, there was this guy, new guy on the
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  scene in New York City who was like kind of this flash in the
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  pan and building all these big buildings and every he was like
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  There was nobody that was against Trump back then.
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  And he was fixing things and making the city better.
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  And he just had that very glamorous life that was
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  appealing to, you know, young people in that period.
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  Anyway, so I went off to college.
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  I had left the faith as a child because I was molested by a
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  priest. And I vowed never to go back to
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  a church. And then after I graduated, I
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  moved into New York City, started the career on Wall
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  Street, did that for about 12 years.
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  And then after that, 911, I was forced out of the city literally
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  because my apartment was five blocks from the Trade Center.
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  They closed lower in Manhattan. I went up going up to Boston,
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  living with a priest up there. This is post conversion.
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  So in 98 I went to Majigoria and sort of accidentally and had
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  this complete reversion and just completely changed my life.
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  Came back to New York and immediately started going to
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  daily mass confession on a monthly basis.
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  Join the Wall Street Young Catholic Association, wearing
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  the rosary every day, walking into and from work.
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  Within three months, I was literally a daily communicant
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  where I was heathen just, you know, three weeks before.
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  So that was the impetus to come back.
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  And then I wound up getting a spiritual director at the church
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  where he actually said I would need 1.
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  And I didn't know why, but he said you're going to need one.
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  And he said, I want you to start praying every day asking the
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  Lord if he wants you to do something different with your
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  life. So OK.
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  And I did that. And after 18 months, on November
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  5th of 2000, a voice said to me, come follow me right after
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  communion audibly like we're hearing.
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  And I looked around, there was nobody near me.
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  And I realized, oh, it's it's you.
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  You're finally speaking to me. And so the next day I called in
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  sick to pray about it. Then the following day I
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  resigned and that was the beginning of looking for the
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  path to priesthood. So it's kind of an odd
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  conversion story, not the normal path.
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  I remember when I went to seminar to ask people to how did
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  you know you were called? And a lot of them are like,
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  well, I don't know, I'm called. That's why I'm here to discern
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  that. And I started thinking, well,
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  why did why did I get such a clear call?
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  And I think the reason that happened is because my path was
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  so difficult. You know, most guys go in four
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  years, four to six years later, they're ordained.
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  I was with three different classes that all got ordained
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  and I kept getting bumped or kicked out.
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  From seminary. Yeah, or diocese.
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  Why were they? Why did that happen?
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  You got bumped or kicked out when you were trying to become.
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  A priest? Well, my order, I was with a
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  religious order for five years. They put me up for a candidacy
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  to become a seminarian. And then you have to interview
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  with the with the vocation director of the diocese and
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  diocese Omaha vocation director chose everybody.
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  There's three of us. You 2 are approved.
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  And this guy is not called to be a priest.
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  My own diocese where I grew up, I went in to the interview with
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  that priest, didn't know who the vocational director was.
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  I didn't know anything. You know, I've been away for a
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  while. So I walked in the cold and the
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  secretary said, no, he's in, you can go see him.
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  And when I walked into his office, it was the priest that
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  had married me. I was married for five years.
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  And he looked at me and said, no, no, no, no, we're not.
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  You're not called to priesthood for sure.
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  And go away. Then I, we eventually made it to
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  the Diocese of Paterson. That picked me up.
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  Paterson, NJ, after a year and a half, got a new vocation
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  director and he cut everybody over 40.
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  I was over 40, the five of us, and said, Nope, you're not
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  called. So it just kept happening.
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  And I think if I had not known that I knew that I knew that
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  Jesus called me, I would have given up.
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  But I knew. So I just kept saying, OK, Lord,
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  what's the next? Where's the next path?
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  Open a door. And that door eventually came
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  through the Bishop of Nashville, who heard about me and flew me
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  in and interviewed me. He actually put me up in his
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  home for a week. This is so unusual because in
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  the Northeast, the bishops really don't even for many of
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  them, don't know they're seminarians.
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  So you meet with them once a year for 15 minutes.
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  They have the file open on the desk so they know who you are.
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  Oh, Daniel. Rachel, how is it going?
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  Going Good. OK.
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  Any problems? No.
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  OK. Well, have keep going.
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  And that's your relationship. Because they're they're too
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  busy. Not everybody.
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  But that's that was my experience.
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  So the fact that this Bishop took me into his home and he
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  cooked me breakfast every morning.
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  I drove him to his appointments every day.
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  And then he would take me to whatever events he had planned
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  on his calendar that night. And at the end of the day, we'd
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  sit on his deck and talk about all the relevant topics under
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  the sun, Commitment, sacrifice, marriage, love, fidelity,
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  priesthood. And after a week, he said, you
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  know, I like you. I think you should.
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  You'd be a good priest here, you know, will you come here?
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  And I said, yeah, I'm going to. I'd love to.
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  And it was such a different experience because he was such a
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  father, like he was being a true father and just let he wanted to
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  get to know who the real me was. How did the Bishop of Nashville
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  do you know his story of how he knew about you and how he felt a
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  sense of calling to reach out to you?
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  It sounds like he hadn't even met you yet.
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  He hadn't and brought you in his home and made you the priest
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  that you believe God was calling you to be.
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  God was calling you to be after like I don't know how many years
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  it was at that point of. All starts the last time, the
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  last place that dumped me was Patterson.
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  And at that point, even though I trusted God, I was a little
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  frustrated. And I said the rocket went back
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  to the seminary that I began at and was good friends with the
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  rector. And I said, can you float my
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  name out there with any other bishops?
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  And he came back and said you're they're kind of too old.
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  You're too old and a New York banker is not what they're
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  looking for. So like, I think, you know, this
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  has run its path. So I said to the Lord, you know,
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  I, I don't know what I misunderstood here, but you
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  know, this is your vocation that if you want to give it to me,
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  I'm happy to live it. But if, if you change your mind,
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  that's OK too. So I'm giving it back to you.
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  If you want me, have a Bishop call me.
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  So you asked the Lord. That specifically thinking
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  that's never going to happen because bishops don't do that.
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  About four months later is when the phone call came in.
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  And how did it happen? Well, it's funny when he called,
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  I initially because he has a heavy Southern accent.
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  And I answered the phone and he said, you know, hello, is this
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  Daniel Rihill? And I said, yes.
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  And I go, who's this? And he said, this is Bishop
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  David Chobi. And I said, OK, who are you?
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  And he, some of the Bishop of Nashville.
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  And I was thinking it was a prank, like one of my buddy was
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  just playing. I go, well, how do you, how do
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  you even know who I am? And he said, well, Father Mark
• 19:17
  Nolte told me about you and Father Mark Nolte was in my
• 19:19
  religious community that I was in for five years.
• 19:21
  So I said, oh, this could be real.
• 19:24
  And so that's that was the connection.
• 19:26
  Did he? Did Father?
• 19:27
  Did the Bishop from Nashville tell?
• 19:29
  Ever tell you what it was that inspired him to call you?
• 19:32
  It seems like a very unusual thing, like you were saying, for
• 19:34
  a Bishop to call a. Kicked out seminarian and say
• 19:37
  I'll take you. Well, Father Nolte was part of
• 19:41
  the this Oman from the Nashville, He grew up in
• 19:46
  Nashville. So he knew this Bishop fairly
• 19:50
  well. And he was telling him, you
• 19:52
  know, this guy is 6 months away from completing seminary and
• 19:56
  then boom, you have a priest that you don't have to pay for
• 19:59
  all those years of seminary. And he's a, he's a good, he's a
• 20:02
  discount. And he's really, he's a good guy
• 20:04
  you should at least meet. Him.
• 20:05
  And by the way, he could be an exorcist.
• 20:07
  So he I don't. Know if that was part of it but.
• 20:10
  It wasn't. But I mean.
• 20:12
  Because he didn't make me the excess.
• 20:13
  He died and I was not the IT was the new Bishop that made me the
• 20:16
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• 20:18
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  But I, I'm just curious with your story, you mentioned
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  raising Long Island and you, you made this comment how you, you
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  fell away from your faith, but you experienced abuse at the
• 21:56
  hands of clergy. Can you share more about that,
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  you know, whatever you're comfortable sharing and how that
• 22:02
  maybe changed your view of your, the faith that you were raised
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  with. And I'm curious how that changed
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  later on, that you actually went to become a clergy yourself
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  after experiencing the worst kind of abuse at the hands of a
• 22:16
  clergy. Yeah, this man was, in my
• 22:19
  opinion, diabolical. He was a predator.
• 22:23
  I later found out I was #18 it was the 18th boy he molested so
• 22:29
  could have been stopped. Shame on the bishops.
• 22:31
  That didn't stop him because he kept getting moved.
• 22:35
  I don't say that as a sweeping blanket statement on all
• 22:38
  bishops, but on the bishops concerned with this man.
• 22:41
  You could have done better. How old were you, Father?
• 22:44
  11 Altar boy or no? No, he just chose me and two
• 22:50
  others that were in the, in the school where he was working and
• 22:54
  said he was going to give us a retreat day some, somewhere.
• 22:57
  And, and that's where it happened.
• 22:59
  But there were signs. I mean, I, I saw other kids that
• 23:03
  were around him that were afraid of him.
• 23:06
  So I, you know, I always just wondered, but then when it
• 23:08
  happened, I knew. And that's the day I said, never
• 23:11
  again. I'm not going back to church.
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  And I of course, it's so crushing and you don't know what
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  to believe or how to process. And there's so much shame and
• 23:19
  there's so much anger and frustration.
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  And my parents knew something was wrong, but they didn't know
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  what. And so he, and he was clever, he
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  knew too that I had changed. I became a different person,
• 23:33
  very like withdrawn and sad. And so he mentions to my
• 23:40
  parents, you know, you know, your son looks like he's having
• 23:43
  a tough time. Do you want me to come over and
• 23:44
  talk to him? And so they invite him to dinner
• 23:47
  and I leave the dinner table and go up to my room and he they
• 23:50
  send him up to talk to me and he tries to do it again.
• 23:54
  So sorry, Father. So, yeah, these, these kind of
• 23:57
  people, you know, cannot be trusted, you know, and I think
• 24:00
  that the, the changes the church has made to protect kids is
• 24:03
  good. But I tell every parent, do not
• 24:06
  leave your kids alone with anybody that you don't know
• 24:09
  super well, like really, really well ever.
• 24:13
  Because it's a disease linked with with demons.
• 24:18
  When you take a disease and link it with demons, you're going to
• 24:20
  get really bad, bad, bad problems.
• 24:23
  When that happened that evening, did you, did your parents find
• 24:27
  out soon after? I mean, did you, were you able?
• 24:28
  To no till college. It wasn't till college that I
• 24:31
  was ready to tell people it happened.
• 24:35
  I'm so sorry, Father. Well, thank you, but here's the
• 24:38
  good news. So I'm I'm now in religious life
• 24:42
  and there's been years of of healing that happened.
• 24:46
  Let me tell you, it's kind of comical.
• 24:49
  I approached the diocese as a young man and said because all
• 24:52
  the lawsuits were coming out and I want to know part of their
• 24:55
  money, they offered me money. I said no, but I would like to
• 24:59
  get some counseling. Now at this point, I'm living in
• 25:02
  Manhattan and they sent me to a psychologist in Manhattan.
• 25:09
  The first they want me to come to to their diocese, which is
• 25:13
  Long Island. And I said, what now?
• 25:15
  Why should I be inconvenienced? You know, I you owe me.
• 25:19
  We'll pick a doctor in here. So I went to the psychologist on
• 25:23
  my first visit. He said, I'm going to prescribe
• 25:25
  you these drugs. And I said, I don't think I need
• 25:28
  drugs. I think I need to talk to
• 25:30
  somebody about this. And he says, well, I'm sorry,
• 25:32
  they only paid for one session. Can you believe this?
• 25:35
  I mean, you can't make it up. I said, forget it.
• 25:38
  We're good. I'm good.
• 25:39
  Don't eat it. So I'm in religious life now
• 25:43
  and. I'm so sorry, but can you share
• 25:47
  the name of the Bishop that was responsible?
• 25:51
  He's received justice. Has there been justice done in
• 25:53
  this case, meaning that. Was the priest.
• 25:57
  Put in prison, not in this. No, no, no, no.
• 25:59
  He died without going to jail. The Bishop.
• 26:01
  Well, the Bishop who covered it up is.
• 26:03
  She dead. This is another interesting
• 26:05
  thing. The Bishop is dead.
• 26:05
  The the priest is, far as I know, is he's, he's been
• 26:08
  laicized, but he's still alive. He's not.
• 26:10
  He never received any criminal penalties for that because the
• 26:14
  statute of limitation. Yep.
• 26:16
  So anyway, along this path, you know, the Lord keeps sending me
• 26:22
  people who've also been abused by just in general.
• 26:26
  And a funny thing happens when the God, when God heals you of
• 26:31
  something, he then makes the womb glorified, sort of like
• 26:34
  Jesus's ones. And then he will attract people
• 26:37
  to you who have similar problems so that you can be a conduit of
• 26:41
  grace so they can get healing too.
• 26:43
  So all these people start showing up and out of the blue,
• 26:46
  they start telling me their story.
• 26:47
  And it's, you know, they were abused.
• 26:49
  And I'm like, huh? So then I would kind of share
• 26:51
  with them and teach them how to forgive.
• 26:53
  And it was always about forgiveness.
• 26:54
  You have to forgive. You cannot not forgive.
• 26:57
  It has to happen. So one day the Bishop in Omaha
• 27:03
  issued some kind of new mandate. And I thought it was stupid or
• 27:06
  silly or whatever, but I had a, a gross reaction to it in front
• 27:10
  of my superior. And he looked at me and said
• 27:13
  that wasn't a normal reaction because what he's doing is not a
• 27:16
  big deal. Why is it?
• 27:18
  Why are you so angry? And I said, I don't know.
• 27:19
  I feel like he's just abusing his power because you know, you,
• 27:24
  your reaction, it's over the top.
• 27:26
  Go down to the Chapel and pray about it.
• 27:28
  So I went down to the Chapel and started praying.
• 27:30
  And the Lord said this is like a trigger for you because of the
• 27:35
  abuse of power. And I said, OK, he says you need
• 27:39
  to forgive the Bishop. I forgave the priest, but I
• 27:42
  never forgave the Bishop because I really blame the Bishop.
• 27:45
  And I said, well, what's the point?
• 27:50
  He's already dead. And the Lord said, well, now
• 27:53
  it's still important and not just for for the Bishop, but for
• 27:56
  you, you have to forgive Toy. So alright, I'm going to start
• 27:59
  having masters said for him from the priests here and I'll pray
• 28:01
  my rosary and offer my my intentions for him.
• 28:05
  And this went on for a few weeks and then one day I just felt
• 28:07
  like the there was no need to it was done.
• 28:10
  Whatever had to be done was done.
• 28:12
  And so I'm in the Chapel one day again after this happened and
• 28:18
  the Lord said, because one year I was sent to a prison as my
• 28:22
  summer assignment at the last day before we were going and I
• 28:25
  said a prison. What am I going to do in a
• 28:27
  prison and in in prison, you can't speak with the inmates
• 28:31
  unless they invite you to to come.
• 28:32
  They you have to get a note saying please see me for for a
• 28:35
  discussion and nobody knows I'm even there.
• 28:37
  So I go, this is going to be a wasted summer.
• 28:41
  Well, they have once a year an outdoor retreat where everybody
• 28:45
  signs up for because they get the whole day outside, which
• 28:46
  they never get to do. And this is maximum security
• 28:50
  prison rapist murderers skin had tattoo people.
• 28:56
  And I show up and I'm in clerics because I'm a seminarian.
• 28:59
  And the day of the retreat, the the Deacon who's the chaplain
• 29:04
  says the keynote speaker had an accident.
• 29:08
  He can't make it to give the talk today.
• 29:11
  So you're going to give the talk.
• 29:14
  And I said, what's the talk on? And he said life after prison.
• 29:20
  And he said, I've never been in prison.
• 29:22
  How can I give this talk? Because we'll say whatever you
• 29:25
  want. And he kind of pushes me out
• 29:27
  there and I look out and it's the most intimidating crowd of
• 29:31
  people you've ever seen. I mean.
• 29:32
  So you just, you didn't have any time to prepare nothing.
• 29:35
  And how many people were in this crowd?
• 29:37
  Like 500. And they just literally walked
• 29:39
  you up there. Yes, like these guys, these just
• 29:44
  like con air looking people, crazy looking people.
• 29:48
  And I just turned to my Bible and I flipped it open and I got
• 29:52
  to the prodigal son and I read the prodigal son and I said, you
• 29:56
  may not believe me, but I wasn't always a seminarian.
• 30:00
  And I probably with one foot on a banana peel and the other one
• 30:04
  in hell, very easily could have been in your shoes.
• 30:07
  Because when I was young, I was molested by this priest.
• 30:10
  And it put me on a path of destruction and and rage and
• 30:16
  rebellion that could have landed me right where you are.
• 30:19
  But the Blessed Mother rescued me and she wants to rescue you.
• 30:24
  And suddenly I see tears. Tears are coming down these like
• 30:27
  very, very looking strong, crazy people.
• 30:33
  And I can see it. And I like, I don't think they
• 30:36
  recognize across the crowd. But I was like, what is
• 30:38
  happening here? The next day I had about 100
• 30:42
  requests for meetings filled my whole summer.
• 30:46
  As it turns out, about 70 to 80% of men who are in prison have
• 30:51
  been molested. And they go into that life of
• 30:55
  addiction, which fuels criminal behavior to fund it.
• 31:00
  I didn't know that at the time, but I do now.
• 31:02
  So again, all these people are getting help, right?
• 31:06
  And it's, this is like the biggest demonstration that I've
• 31:09
  up to this point. So I'm in the Chapel one day
• 31:12
  after this all goes down. And again, the Lord says to me,
• 31:16
  can I ask you a question? I'll never forget it.
• 31:18
  And I said, you've never asked me if you can ask me a question
• 31:22
  before. And by the way, that was a
• 31:23
  question. And he goes, I want you to
• 31:25
  remember this. That's why I asked.
• 31:27
  And I go, OK, what's the question?
• 31:28
  He goes, if I could take you to back to being 10 years old and
• 31:31
  remove the abuse from your life, knowing all the good I'm
• 31:34
  bringing from it, would you change your life?
• 31:37
  And I thought about it and I said, well, I'm fully healed.
• 31:41
  I have no, I have nothing left of that.
• 31:46
  But I can see what you're doing. And I said, no, I, I'm good.
• 31:50
  I, I would keep my life the way it is.
• 31:51
  I'm happy. And he says, this is the mystery
• 31:55
  of the cross. Don't ever forget it.
• 31:59
  Because when crosses come along, you have to relate to people
• 32:02
  that this is just the piercing. But the, the, the, the blossom
• 32:09
  of new life is coming. Just hold on.
• 32:12
  And it was such a valuable lesson.
• 32:13
  And it's so much so that when you live it, it's different than
• 32:16
  hearing about it, right? But when people come to you who
• 32:18
  have similar issues and they know you've gone through it,
• 32:21
  it's like they, they take it with value.
• 32:24
  They're like, OK, I can trust this guy.
• 32:27
  So it's amazing that you can get to the point in your life when
• 32:31
  you could say, I'm OK with getting through walking through
• 32:34
  the abuse because I, you healed me and now you're using me to
• 32:37
  bring healing to others. So praise the Lord.
• 32:40
  Praise the Lord. Yeah.
• 32:41
  Thank you for you're welcome sharing that, Father.
• 32:44
  Sure. I mean, that's, it's incredible.
• 32:48
  It is incredible. You agreed to let the Lord help
• 32:51
  you forgive, and you forgave, and I think that's an
• 32:54
  inspiration. It's monumental.
• 32:57
  I it's the one thing I try to teach people.
• 32:59
  You can't hold on to it because you're never going to get over
• 33:01
  it. You have to give it back and
• 33:04
  say, Lord, I don't like what that person did to me, but I'm
• 33:08
  choosing to forgive them. And I ask you to forgive them
• 33:11
  too and bless and heal them so they become the man or woman you
• 33:14
  made them to be so they can get home to heaven.
• 33:16
  So it's simple, it's a formula, it's easy, but it's people think
• 33:21
  forgiveness is an emotion and until I have the emotion of
• 33:25
  happiness, I can't forgive them. No, that's not how it works.
• 33:29
  And the proof of that is the cross, because that's the moment
• 33:31
  in Jesus's life that he suffered the most physically, the most
• 33:35
  pain he endured emotionally. Watching his mother suffer,
• 33:38
  watching him die, the most abuse he took from the crowd spitting
• 33:42
  at him, blaspheming him, cursing him, and then the feeling of his
• 33:47
  Father's presence diminishing as he's absorbing all our sin.
• 33:51
  Even though his father didn't go away, the feeling was leaving.
• 33:56
  That was the worst moment of his life.
• 33:57
  And what did he do? He said father forgive them for
• 34:00
  they don't know what they do in the worst pain of his life.
• 34:04
  So it has it's This is a decision of the will for the
• 34:08
  good of the other. Did you ever talk to your
• 34:12
  parents about your forgiveness of the people that abused you,
• 34:15
  The person that abused you? Yes.
• 34:17
  Did they have to forgive themselves?
• 34:19
  What was that? No, my parents didn't do
• 34:22
  anything wrong. They were just innocent people.
• 34:25
  I was the oldest. They never had a kid.
• 34:27
  It was back. You know, when you think about
• 34:29
  it, when they were raising me, this, it might have been
• 34:32
  happening, but it was never spoken of so.
• 34:34
  They just didn't. No clue.
• 34:36
  Trusted everybody. Trusted we, we played outside
• 34:40
  all day and rode our bikes around the block and all over
• 34:43
  into the park. And we'd come home at the end of
• 34:45
  the day at, you know, dusk. Nobody was afraid of being
• 34:49
  kidnapped or stolen or it was just a different time.
• 34:54
  Drank water out of the hose. Today we have to have our
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  Glass bottles, yeah, different. But I think now people are more
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  the phone, social media, Hollywood, Madison Ave. all of
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  it. It's all getting worse.
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  Things like, well, first of all, sadly, California exports about
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  65% of the pornography to the whole world.
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  So right there there's a problem.
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  That was something that if you wanted to look at pornography
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  and when I was a kid, you had to go to the corner, you know,
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  little convenience store and buy the magazine and hide it between
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  two other magazines and smuggle it into your house.
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  Now you open your phone, there's the world is at your fingertips.
• 37:35
  That's dangerous for kids. And then it it got so much worse
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  because the digital world is far outpacing production of printed
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  pornography. And what I mean by that is
• 37:48
  they're doing things that are grossly disgusting on levels
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  that are so devoid of humanity you can't imagine.
• 37:56
  But then Hollywood picks up on it.
• 37:58
  You know, Nicole Kidman just shot a movie where she's
• 38:01
  obsessed with sex with animals. It's a mainstream movie.
• 38:07
  So like, you know, she's somebody who claims to be
• 38:11
  Catholic. I don't know how you do that,
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  You know, and there's others too.
• 38:17
  This the Hollywood keeps pushing the envelope and America keeps
• 38:20
  eating it up. So at some points the Lord will
• 38:24
  intervene and say, you know what?
• 38:26
  A chastisement at this point would be a great mercy for these
• 38:29
  people because it it would have the effect of bringing people
• 38:32
  back to God, just like He did with the Israelites.
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  By chastisement. What is that?
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  What could that look like? Could look like anything, Could
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  look like financial collapse. It could look like a stoppage in
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  events. It could look like a plague.
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  It could you name it. All the options are on the table
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  do. You think the LA fires were
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  Potentially. I personally do.
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  be that big earthquake and everything's going to fall down.
• 39:40
  But then when the fires came, I said, oh, like, that was weird.
• 39:43
  That was like just weeks ago that I heard him say that.
• 39:46
  And, and private personal revelation is always to be taken
• 39:50
  with a big grain of salt because we're imperfect vessels.
• 39:53
  And when I hear things like that, I'm like, well, yes, in
• 39:56
  the end, all will be gone. You know, at the end, everything
• 39:59
  will go away. So of course.
• 40:02
  But I didn't think it was that. And it's certainly nothing.
• 40:04
  That's a lot of that stuff still there.
• 40:06
  So that was not what he said, but it just alarmed me when I
• 40:09
  saw it on TV. I'm like, wow, I was just there
• 40:12
  and I called her and she fled to her villa in Rome to get it to
• 40:17
  escape the fire. So, yeah, things are changing.
• 40:21
  But then I thought, you know, what if all those people
• 40:24
  evacuated because, ironically, very few people died.
• 40:27
  I mean, there was loss of life. It's always horrible when that
• 40:29
  happens. But given the span of the what
• 40:31
  could have been, you know, if you meant to the Peshtigo fire
• 40:35
  in Wisconsin, you know, lots of people died, you know,
• 40:40
  thousands. This was a relatively small
• 40:43
  number. But what if all those people
• 40:45
  were that they're now gone and that now if there was an
• 40:48
  earthquake and and that all went to rubble, they would be spared?
• 40:52
  We just never know what God's doing ahead.
• 40:55
  He's sort of like 100 paces ahead in a chess game.
• 40:57
  You just don't know. But I do believe if, if there
• 41:03
  was something to shake us back into reality and say, wake up
• 41:07
  America and the world, the way to do that is usually to take
• 41:12
  away people's toys. And then they, you have their
• 41:15
  attention, right? So I don't wish this on anybody.
• 41:18
  I don't want this. I don't want to suffer as a
• 41:20
  country. And I think the fastest way to,
• 41:23
  to, to come into God's good graces is we have to corporately
• 41:27
  as a whole country and potentially the whole world,
• 41:31
  repent, acknowledge we went down the wrong path.
• 41:35
  The way we're heading is not healthy or good or holy.
• 41:39
  And it's time to change and to bring back the values that Jesus
• 41:42
  left us. God would come swooping in and
• 41:45
  pick us up in his arms like a Father.
• 41:49
  Do you think there's been an increase in demonic activity in
• 41:54
  the last 40-50 years? And you mentioned pornography.
• 41:57
  Has been just in the last five years.
• 41:58
  Last five years, an increase in. Demonic activity in COVID?
• 42:01
  COVID was horrible for demonic activity.
• 42:04
  Why? Why do you think that is?
• 42:07
  Can't define it for sure, but I mean I've talked to other
• 42:10
  Exodus. First of all, we took away the
• 42:11
  sacraments. That's never going to help you
• 42:15
  lock people at home. You give them free money and
• 42:18
  tell them have fun. So people, you know, idle hands
• 42:21
  may are the devil's work. You know, you don't want to do
• 42:23
  that. So a lot of people got into a
• 42:27
  lot of sinful areas just by being stuck home and nothing to
• 42:30
  do. And then it's not the demons get
• 42:34
  more power, but they get more influence when that stuff like
• 42:37
  that happens. And that creates more problems.
• 42:41
  The other issue you have to look at is as an exorcist, I'm given
• 42:44
  authority to drive out demons and bring healing to people by
• 42:50
  the power of the church. So the Bishop gives me that
• 42:52
  authority that was given to him by the Pope, and that's the
• 43:00
  power that's behind my ministry that I'm doing for the church.
• 43:05
  When the church starts suffering, not in a good way, in
• 43:08
  a bad way, when the church starts getting weak or lazy or
• 43:15
  not the best she could be, that has an adverse effect on the
• 43:20
  power of the ministry because that's where I'm pulling from.
• 43:24
  So, and again, I'm not causing blame on the USCCB or those men
• 43:29
  running the church, but that's the fact of life.
• 43:32
  When the church is strong is when the exorcist ministry will
• 43:35
  be at its strongest. It's because it's not me, it's
• 43:39
  God's power, but it's coming through the authority of the
• 43:41
  church. So there's that.
• 43:45
  There's that in play as well. It is crazy to think about the
• 43:49
  fact that they left the abortion clinics open in California where
• 43:53
  they close the churches. Like literally you could go get
• 43:55
  an abortion and kill your baby, murder your baby, dismember your
• 43:58
  baby, and you couldn't go to get your sacraments.
• 44:02
  It was like that in a lot of places.
• 44:05
  So I hope everybody learned from that.
• 44:09
  You know, it was a terrible tragedy, but you know, if you
• 44:12
  can learn from it and then change future behavior to modify
• 44:16
  that so it doesn't happen again, great.
• 44:19
  Because Lord knows it's probably not the last pandemic we'll
• 44:22
  have. It just seems like we're living
• 44:25
  in different times. Father, how did you become an
• 44:28
  exorcist? Exorcists are chosen by the
• 44:31
  Bishop. You can't lobby for it.
• 44:34
  You shouldn't apply for it's not a position.
• 44:36
  You throw a resume up there and say pick me to be the so it's
• 44:41
  just the way it's done. Of course, then I have a team
• 44:44
  around me and those people I choose to support me, and
• 44:48
  there's people that both go in the room with me and then
• 44:50
  there's intercessors outside of their can intercede from really
• 44:54
  anywhere. So I always have an e-mail go
• 44:56
  out the morning of an exorcism to the whole group saying that
• 45:00
  from this hour to this hours, could you keep me in prayer?
• 45:04
  And that's how we do it. How, what?
• 45:08
  What was it like when you first did your first exorcism?
• 45:13
  Your first exorcism is kind of scary because you're you're the
• 45:17
  alone. So I'm I'm the lead the only
• 45:20
  when I'm a meant when somebody's mentoring, I'm just there
• 45:22
  watching and they're in charge. So I'm kind of like, you know,
• 45:25
  wherever this goes, I'll just be present.
• 45:28
  But I don't have to think about it.
• 45:30
  I'm just watching. But the first time you're there
• 45:32
  and there's nobody coaching you, you know, you're always a little
• 45:35
  nervous, like I hope I'm doing this right.
• 45:38
  And the first one I did, the woman was not getting it didn't
• 45:42
  seem like anything was happening.
• 45:44
  She was just writhing on the floor in pain and contorting her
• 45:47
  neck and her body limbs and screaming and sweating and
• 45:53
  foaming at the mouth. And I'm like, I'm getting to the
• 45:57
  end of the right where you, you pray the prayers of gratitude.
• 45:59
  And I looked her past was in the room with me.
• 46:01
  And I look at him and go, we're just about done here.
• 46:05
  And she's not better. Like, do you want to keep going
• 46:09
  or should we reschedule and do this again?
• 46:12
  Naively thinking like I could just keep going until it's out
• 46:15
  like that. That's something that was just
• 46:18
  complete made-up in my head. Until the the devil or the demon
• 46:21
  is. Yeah, oftentimes it, it doesn't
• 46:24
  matter what how long you go, it's not leaving the first try,
• 46:28
  just the way it works sometimes, but not always.
• 46:32
  So he looks at me and said, I, this is horrible.
• 46:34
  I can't go through this, so I can't watch this again, just
• 46:37
  keep going. And so it's OK.
• 46:39
  Oddly, that he had just bought a huge 8 foot painting of
• 46:43
  Guadalupe that was in the room, hadn't been hung in the church
• 46:46
  yet. And she was Spanish.
• 46:48
  So I just looked at her and I said, cry out to your mother for
• 46:52
  help. And she cried out to the Blessed
• 46:55
  Mother in Spanish and then immediately went into
• 46:59
  convulsions on the floor and was just like up and down and
• 47:03
  writhing all over the place. And me and the other pre we had
• 47:07
  no idea what was happening. I was not praying any prayers at
• 47:10
  this point. I'm just staring at her like
• 47:11
  what? What is happening here?
• 47:12
  And then she just stopped and she dropped to the floor
• 47:16
  completely and was motionless. And I was like, part of me was
• 47:19
  wondering is she alive? And kind of got closer and she
• 47:24
  was she was breathing and then she opened her eyes and she was
• 47:28
  back completely delivered. Had nothing to do with me or the
• 47:32
  right was all Our Lady. Our Lady of Guadalupe.
• 47:36
  Yes. And I looked at the priest and
• 47:38
  said, had we known, we could have started with this, you
• 47:40
  know, it would have been up right away.
• 47:42
  But you know, it's not like it's not a science.
• 47:45
  You can't just say, oh, every time I'm going to begin with
• 47:47
  Guadalupe and it'll always happen.
• 47:48
  But in this instance, that's what happened.
• 47:51
  What was her she was presenting? What brought that woman and her
• 47:56
  pastor to you? How did they know that she was
• 47:58
  even possessed, it sounds like? And was she exhibiting these
• 48:03
  behaviors even when there wasn't an exorcism that was actively
• 48:07
  being delivered towards her? I mean, what was the?
• 48:09
  She had a horrible aversion to all things holy and she formerly
• 48:13
  was a very good daily communicant and she went through
• 48:20
  a cycle of fear about something. And that kind of that was seemed
• 48:24
  to be the open door that invited the demons in.
• 48:25
  And then it that just took her down and she couldn't even go to
• 48:29
  she couldn't go to mass, she couldn't go to adoration.
• 48:31
  She couldn't pray the rosary. She had voices screaming at her
• 48:34
  all day. She physically lost control of
• 48:38
  her body. And that's what true possession
• 48:40
  is, you know, can control your body like they take over.
• 48:43
  And but it wasn't 24 hours a day.
• 48:45
  So when she'd come out of these moments, she would tell her
• 48:47
  sister, I need help because there's something taking me
• 48:50
  over. And that's how she came to me.
• 48:54
  When you say there was fear, and I want to explore this because I
• 48:57
  think, you know, part of the goal here is education about,
• 49:01
  yeah, the way that we can enter spiritual combat armed with in
• 49:05
  strength, you know, trusting in our Lord Jesus Christ, Right.
• 49:08
  And asking for the intercession of the Blessed Mother, the
• 49:10
  angels and the Saints. And this woman, you said, was a
• 49:13
  daily communicant. And she said she was kind of
• 49:18
  dwelling in in fears or she had these fears that were kind of
• 49:21
  taking over her. And that sounds like that was
• 49:22
  perhaps an open door for the demonic.
• 49:25
  Can you share more about that? Yeah.
• 49:27
  And I don't want to frighten anybody listening because you
• 49:29
  can't just suddenly fall into being possessed.
• 49:32
  But she came from a culture where there were also other
• 49:36
  things operating in in the background, you know, so there
• 49:38
  could be family members that are dabbling and Santeria and all
• 49:42
  sorts of other things and all these factors.
• 49:44
  It's a very unique situation for every one of us because we come
• 49:47
  from an unique and unique upbringing.
• 49:49
  And then we have a unique pairing with demons that are
• 49:53
  unique, you know, Aquinas says each Angel is its own species to
• 49:58
  some regard. So every single person is going
• 50:00
  to have a different scenario when they encounter something
• 50:05
  that's troubling them for whatever reason.
• 50:08
  She, it became incredibly fearful and to the point where
• 50:12
  it was, I would almost say maybe a lack of trust in God and, and
• 50:17
  that's where you get into a danger zone and.
• 50:20
  Like, like suspicious, fearful, like she was suspicious of
• 50:24
  things like. Being oppressed by a spirit of
• 50:26
  fear that was making her crazy to the point of so fearful of
• 50:31
  just everything. And when she finally kind of
• 50:36
  gave into that fear, it just took over.
• 50:38
  And then that was the beginning of the end until she was
• 50:41
  liberated. So the, the lesson there is
• 50:45
  like, no matter what you're going through, first of all,
• 50:48
  bring it into the light because that's when they lose their
• 50:50
  power by just saying the declaring Jesus is my Lord and
• 50:54
  he is my God and I trust in him. And no matter what you think
• 50:58
  you're doing, Jesus is the king of my life and constantly go
• 51:03
  back to that Jesus, I trust in you.
• 51:05
  Seek help from your local priest.
• 51:07
  You know, tell your priest that there's something I'm wrestling
• 51:09
  with. I need prayer.
• 51:11
  Can you pray with me? Ask your family to pray with
• 51:14
  you. Try to pray your rosary every
• 51:16
  day. It's all these little things we
• 51:17
  can do that help gird us up and keep us strong.
• 51:23
  But like when I'm, if I'm having a really tough time, you have to
• 51:26
  let people know by hiding it, it only gives those things more
• 51:29
  power to work on you. How many exorcisms have you done
• 51:34
  since that first one, would you say?
• 51:37
  Dozens. And what's the kind of process
• 51:41
  for exorcism people? You know, and I'm, you know,
• 51:46
  we've talked about this a little bit on the show before, but
• 51:48
  what's sort of the the flags you mentioned lacking ability to
• 51:53
  control of 1's body is like a very big flag, meaning that
• 51:56
  could be that the three. Typicals are knowledge of
• 52:01
  unknown things, sometimes foreign languages, superhuman
• 52:05
  strength and an aversion to holy things.
• 52:08
  Those are the three, like, classic benchmarks.
• 52:11
  But there can be. I mean, I had one case up in
• 52:13
  Kentucky. It was a guy up in a halfway
• 52:17
  house just across the border, and I didn't even know he was
• 52:21
  dealing with demons. Somebody just called me, you
• 52:24
  know, back when I was up in Nashville, it was only at an
• 52:26
  hour drive, and they said he just wants help.
• 52:29
  He levitated off the couch while I was praying with him.
• 52:31
  So right away I'm like, not mental illness, clearly.
• 52:35
  You saw that? Yes.
• 52:36
  How far off the couch was he? Foot and 1/2.
• 52:40
  Was he like sitting cross legged or what?
• 52:42
  What did that? No, no.
• 52:43
  He kind of went into a trance. His eyes rolled back in his
• 52:47
  head, and then his core lifted up and his limbs were flailing
• 52:50
  backwards like like a puppet. And I just got up and walked out
• 52:55
  of the room and said, Nope, not doing this here.
• 52:59
  You know, this is not my home turf.
• 53:00
  We're not this is not even expect this.
• 53:03
  So waited until he came back down and said you need help, but
• 53:08
  you have to come to the church and it's going to be a scheduled
• 53:13
  thing. That's when the process begins.
• 53:17
  In his case, you know, the USCCB requires that I have of the cat
• 53:22
  Code of Canada law says I have to have moral certitude.
• 53:24
  There's a demon present, the USECB has interpreted that to me
• 53:28
  and I have to have a physical done on the person and a psych
• 53:32
  evaluation. I think we're one of the only
• 53:34
  countries that requires both. And is that to rule out that
• 53:38
  this is not like schizophrenia or some trick, but that this is
• 53:42
  a legit demonic activity that needs an exorcist and that can't
• 53:46
  be treated by a healthcare professional like a mental
• 53:48
  health? Professional, you know, they
• 53:50
  hide under mental illness too. So like that's not a guarantee.
• 53:53
  They're not there if even if they get a diagnosis of
• 53:55
  schizophrenia. But I said, look, this guy, you
• 54:00
  know, mental illness makes you levitate off the couch.
• 54:02
  So we don't have to do the psychological.
• 54:04
  Clearly it's not mental illness. He should still have a physical
• 54:08
  and make sure it's healthy like he wouldn't be his body would
• 54:12
  because it's very stressful to go through a deliverance like
• 54:15
  that. But then you you go forward and
• 54:18
  you and you go and perform the right.
• 54:22
  So I have a question because when you're just walking through
• 54:24
  the streets as an example, or like in daily life, like I've
• 54:27
  never seen somebody levitate off the ground in a demonic display,
• 54:31
  right? It sounds like the that the
• 54:35
  devil almost was taunting you or like he knew you were an
• 54:38
  exorcist and he doesn't like you and he did that in front of you
• 54:41
  specifically, like on purpose. Is there some pattern there
• 54:45
  about how the devil chooses to do these crazy antics?
• 54:49
  Generally speaking, if you're an exorcist that's starting your
• 54:52
  fresh, all the parlor tricks come out and it's meant to
• 54:57
  intimidate it and to frighten. After a year or two of doing
• 55:01
  this, they know this is not going to impress the exorcist,
• 55:05
  and they kind of diminished to the point of not a big deal.
• 55:09
  But if I bring in a young priest who wants to be a witness in the
• 55:13
  room or a bodyguard for me, all the tricks come back out because
• 55:18
  it's like, oh, there's somebody new to impress here.
• 55:21
  And that's not always the case. But that's kind of what I've
• 55:23
  seen and what I've talked to other friends who do this the
• 55:26
  same thing. You know, it's like after a
• 55:28
  while that this guy has already seen all this.
• 55:30
  It's not going to make any kind of impression on him.
• 55:33
  But the best example in the scriptures is the Garrison
• 55:37
  demoniac. So when we look at that example,
• 55:40
  that guy was cut off from civilization.
• 55:43
  So division, he was running around naked, public nudity, and
• 55:49
  he's violent, he's breaking his chains, he's smashing things on
• 55:53
  the rocks. And when we look to our society
• 55:55
  today, those three things are through the roof, Public nudity,
• 55:59
  division and violence. And when I see that on the news
• 56:03
  at night, that's the first thing I say is like, he's having a
• 56:06
  heyday here. That's just like, meaning when
• 56:09
  we see some of these crazy protests that didn't even
• 56:12
  involve some of those things that could just be straight up
• 56:15
  that is demonic activity. The way people present
• 56:18
  themselves in public, people come up to communion barely
• 56:22
  dressed. And it's like he's he's having
• 56:26
  greater influence than ever over because I think we think we're
• 56:31
  we're an advanced society. We're we're smarter than this
• 56:35
  former generations where we know better.
• 56:37
  And so we've let our guard down in some way with all these other
• 56:40
  things. And but cumulatively, when you
• 56:44
  look at it, we're much worse off now than we were before.
• 56:48
  There was just the Grammys event a couple days ago from when
• 56:51
  we're filming this, and Kanye West came, I think.
• 56:54
  I don't even know if he. I saw the story, I didn't see
• 56:57
  the. I didn't see the no need to see
• 56:59
  it, but he literally had his quote UN quote wife and you
• 57:01
  know, unclear their actual bond, but literally naked in full
• 57:06
  flight. You know, everyone for everyone
• 57:08
  to see parading her like that. And you know, I think there was
• 57:12
  a round decry of it. People decrying it like this
• 57:16
  looks demonic. This looks demonic.
• 57:18
  Do you think that's? How could it not have an
• 57:23
  influence? I mean, how could it not?
• 57:27
  The I saw the story in in a news, a New York newspaper that
• 57:31
  ran a story. And of course they didn't show
• 57:33
  her, but she was on the red carpet and all the, you know,
• 57:37
  there's a league of photographers all photographing
• 57:39
  her. So he dragged her out in the
• 57:41
  public, naked and put her on display like a dog.
• 57:46
  Like a dog. Like a pimp.
• 57:48
  Like a. Pimp and they all just shot
• 57:50
  their pictures of her. And posted them.
• 57:53
  This poor woman, I mean, what kind of self dignity does she
• 57:57
  have left after that? You know, I can't imagine going
• 58:01
  home then thinking like that was a good day, and then for weeks
• 58:05
  you're going to hear about it in the news of everybody posting,
• 58:07
  your poor body putting all over. Well, he did that with Kim
• 58:11
  Kardashian, right? You know, So it's he has a track
• 58:13
  record of doing it. I think sometimes the women like
• 58:15
  in Kim Kardashian's case, like she she actively I would say
• 58:18
  prostitutes herself with with or without Kanye.
• 58:21
  I don't want to go too far down the rabbit hole with these
• 58:23
  celebrities because they seem to want for them.
• 58:28
  For many of them, it brings more clicks and ultimately it brings
• 58:32
  them more money. And if that's your goal is to
• 58:35
  make money, you know, I think recently I remember I spoke
• 58:41
  about this with somebody else. But there's this woman who says
• 58:44
  she's Christian and she's an only fans model that made like
• 58:48
  $40 million in a year. And she she says she's still
• 58:54
  her, her faith is intact. She's a good Christian woman.
• 58:57
  Now, I don't, I'm not part of only fans, but I have to imagine
• 59:01
  if you're making $40 million, you're not photographing
• 59:03
  yourself with your clothes on. There has to be something you're
• 59:06
  showing. People are paying you for it.
• 59:09
  And that is so sad to me because not only for her own personal
• 59:13
  dignity, but all the young women, young, even men who are
• 59:19
  going to watch not her directly, but the these the story in the
• 59:24
  news. Oh, you can make $40 million by
• 59:27
  being just, that's, oh, I didn't know you could do that.
• 59:30
  It's like the gold rush of perversity.
• 59:32
  You're yeah, you're you're literally dangling a carrot in
• 59:35
  front of the youth saying here's a way to go to be rich.
• 59:38
  All you have to do is take all your clothes off.
• 59:41
  When did this become normal? Just in the last, like you said,
• 59:45
  the last five years, it really is.
• 59:46
  Accelerating, right? Accelerating.
• 59:48
  OK, so that's enough on him. So we have the antidote to this,
• 59:52
  and that's Jesus and his mother. You know, a lot of times we we
• 59:57
  downplay Mary, but he never did. His favorite person on the earth
• 1:00:01
  was Mary. And so we should get to know her
• 1:00:03
  really well, too. She shows up all over the world
• 1:00:07
  in various apparitions, and she always dresses in the culture of
• 1:00:10
  the people she's visiting. Guadalupe shoes, the Mexican
• 1:00:14
  dress in France. She's comes with what the local
• 1:00:18
  Parisian peasant women were wearing, but she never comes.
• 1:00:24
  Dressed immodestly, like, I wonder if she appeared in Vegas,
• 1:00:29
  she would still come completely clothed.
• 1:00:31
  You know, there would be no showgirl outfit.
• 1:00:33
  She would be completely dressed, beautiful, but covered.
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  And I think we need to impress upon our young people that if
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  you really believe you're a temple of the Holy Spirit, if
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  you really believe that you're made with this incredible, the
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  most incredible dignity, that you're in God's own image and
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  likeness, then you're so special that you shouldn't just be
• 1:00:54
  flaunting your body for the world to see.
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  It's something that's sacred, that is really set apart for him
• 1:01:00
  and for potentially one day a spouse that God will choose for
• 1:01:03
  you. But that's it, right?
• 1:01:06
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:01:08
  Sounds good. It has to go out there it.
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  Has to go out there and. We need strong dads to impress
• 1:01:13
  upon the girls they The dad is so critically important.
• 1:01:16
  The mothers are definitely important, but the dad has a
• 1:01:19
  unique role in the family of forming those little people into
• 1:01:24
  Saints as the one who is leading the family to heaven.
• 1:01:28
  Because a lot of people don't realize, but in any
• 1:01:30
  relationship, the way God's constructed the pyramid of life,
• 1:01:35
  the father over the situation has special graces for that
• 1:01:38
  family that are only given through the father.
• 1:01:41
  So the pastor is given special graces for the parish.
• 1:01:45
  You could say it even in civilian life, like the
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  president has special graces that can be imparted to the
• 1:01:50
  country if he chooses to live a godly life, right?
• 1:01:55
  So what I'm finding in the last just six months really is
• 1:02:01
  there's this bubbling up of this new crop of Catholic men who are
• 1:02:07
  really taking the bull by the horns and getting boldly out
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  there promoting virtue and sacrifice for holy families.
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  And it is so encouraging. It's so refreshing.
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  And it's so like, it's almost addictive.
• 1:02:23
  Like you're like, this is so exciting.
• 1:02:25
  Leadership. Yes, and, and I've been reaching
• 1:02:29
  out to some of them. I just saw a guy on Instagram
• 1:02:31
  the other day and he, he's posting everyday scriptures and
• 1:02:34
  he's out there for teaching his children and taking them on
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  these like little marches and building things and swords and
• 1:02:42
  teaching them about the nights. And I said, who is this guy?
• 1:02:45
  So I, I found him and I called him, I said, I want to meet you.
• 1:02:48
  I want to talk to you and come on the show.
• 1:02:50
  And he came on and it's, he just said, you know, we just feel
• 1:02:56
  like I don't see anybody else here doing it.
• 1:02:58
  I'm going to do it. And I've been kind of a, a tired
• 1:03:01
  old parish with the youngest people in the parish.
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  There's no other people in our age group.
• 1:03:05
  And we're just like, let's go. We have to do it.
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  And we're going to build this great Catholic family.
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  So it gives me a lot of encouragement for the future.
• 1:03:13
  It should get everybody encouragement for the future.
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  And you know what, you can be part of it too.
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  Anybody listening, you can be part of this.
• 1:03:19
  This is not just for a few. A few select now, you don't have
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  to get on Instagram. You don't have to be on YouTube,
• 1:03:24
  but in your home, start a little Bible study with your kids every
• 1:03:28
  morning, 5 minutes. Let's talk about the readings
• 1:03:30
  today and then send them off today with a thought to ponder.
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  And at the end of the day, come back at dinner and let's see how
• 1:03:36
  that scripture lived out today in their life.
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  I mean practical. I love that.
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  Yeah, they're, you're right. I've seen it more.
• 1:03:43
  I mean, even with this podcast, there's more people coming out
• 1:03:46
  of the woodwork. We're like, we should talk to
• 1:03:47
  you. Come, let's just have a
• 1:03:48
  conversation because you know, the people that I, I, you know,
• 1:03:54
  the folks who are watching the show, I know they would be
• 1:03:56
  encouraged by your witness, by what you're doing, by your
• 1:03:58
  example. And there are a lot of men that
• 1:04:01
  are standing up and just being men, being the leaders that got
• 1:04:04
  them to be it's. Amazing.
• 1:04:06
  What's your when you are doing spiritual combat?
• 1:04:11
  What has been the most challenging exorcist that you've
• 1:04:16
  ever exorcism that you've ever done, That you've ever done?
• 1:04:19
  Ha, that's an easy one. OK, this guy, John, he went on
• 1:04:29
  YouTube and googled how to open his third eye.
• 1:04:34
  This third eye. Third Eye?
• 1:04:36
  Yeah, it's a Hindu thing. Is it like connected to that eye
• 1:04:42
  that is using a lot of jewelry? It's a different.
• 1:04:45
  Thing, it's like this third eye in this world of metaphysical,
• 1:04:50
  religion, complexity, spiritual, but ultimately it's demonic.
• 1:04:57
  And he was going through this video trying to do what they're
• 1:04:59
  saying and he felt the thing go into him and he was pretty
• 1:05:05
  messed up. But it's still able to function
• 1:05:07
  as a human being and eventually reached out I think through the
• 1:05:11
  diocese to me and I met with him and he was coherent, like he
• 1:05:15
  could have a conversation. But over the course of a month
• 1:05:19
  this thing kept growing and getting worse and dragging him
• 1:05:22
  down. Eventually he was fully
• 1:05:24
  possessed and he died 3 times. He died 3 times.
• 1:05:28
  Three times what is? What do you mean?
• 1:05:30
  During his possession, they would bring him drugs.
• 1:05:36
  They would. The demon would say, I'm going
• 1:05:38
  to, you're going to take drugs today.
• 1:05:41
  He goes, I don't want to take any drugs.
• 1:05:43
  I don't have any money. Oh, we know.
• 1:05:45
  We know people. And then just a guy would show
• 1:05:48
  up and hand him a bag of crack and shoot it into him and he
• 1:05:52
  would OD and eventually he would get taken to the hospital and
• 1:05:57
  give a Narcan and come back to life.
• 1:05:59
  The third time it happened was actually the day we had
• 1:06:01
  scheduled an exorcism with him. He's living in the woods with a
• 1:06:05
  community of homeless. Was this but sorry, did he
• 1:06:08
  become homeless after the YouTube video?
• 1:06:11
  So within just a short period of time, his life totally
• 1:06:13
  unraveled. Six months.
• 1:06:15
  Yes, that that's pretty short lost.
• 1:06:16
  His job, lost his family, lost his girlfriend, lost everything.
• 1:06:20
  Now he's living in the woods. And and just to just to track it
• 1:06:24
  with and was this because of erratic behavior that the demon
• 1:06:27
  was sort of instigating, instigating in him or was it
• 1:06:30
  specifically the drugs or? No, no, the drugs were only at
• 1:06:34
  set points when they would bring them to him and he would have to
• 1:06:38
  do them. He couldn't function because
• 1:06:40
  they were the two present all the time.
• 1:06:43
  He would have very few minutes of lucidity where he was able to
• 1:06:46
  communicate and function. So eventually everything just
• 1:06:49
  fell apart. And when when you say that when
• 1:06:52
  you like, let's say you're his employer, you're just noticing
• 1:06:55
  him like totally check out, not pay attention.
• 1:06:58
  Check out not showing up on time, not showing up at all.
• 1:07:01
  Eventually it's like you can't work here.
• 1:07:03
  Same with the girlfriend, just. Do you think the girlfriend knew
• 1:07:06
  that something demonic was happening or she just thought he
• 1:07:09
  turned into a deadbeat? I don't know.
• 1:07:11
  I never met her, but she just at some point said, I've had
• 1:07:15
  enough, I'm done. And then he went to a halfway
• 1:07:19
  house. And then even there he got
• 1:07:20
  kicked out of like there, there was just no way he was going to
• 1:07:24
  live anywhere with anybody who was normal because they were
• 1:07:27
  just having a heyday with him. And and he had no car at this
• 1:07:32
  point either. So like when I had to to meet
• 1:07:35
  with him for sessions, you know, when I bring him to the church,
• 1:07:37
  I had to go pick him up. So now I'm like, I have to have
• 1:07:41
  somebody with me in the car because I can't have a possessed
• 1:07:44
  person suddenly like reach over the backseat and start choking
• 1:07:47
  me as I'm driving the car. So we had to restrain him and it
• 1:07:51
  was big. It was just a lot.
• 1:07:54
  So the third time I had the other, I had another excess with
• 1:07:57
  me. And this is all scheduled and we
• 1:07:59
  go to pick John up from his location in the woods.
• 1:08:03
  He's not there. I said, where is John?
• 1:08:05
  And they said, oh, he died. They took him away.
• 1:08:08
  I said, oh, he died. So I went to the closest
• 1:08:12
  hospital to that location and he's there and he's in ER and
• 1:08:16
  he's awake. They, they Narcan him again.
• 1:08:19
  The doctor said to me, we gave him triple what we normally use
• 1:08:24
  on somebody who's overdosed triple.
• 1:08:26
  Like it's insane how much drugs he had in his system.
• 1:08:30
  He was, they wouldn't release him because you have to stay for
• 1:08:34
  like an hour before they let you go when you have that much drugs
• 1:08:37
  in your system. So I'm talking to him and he
• 1:08:39
  goes in and out of lucidity and eventually the demon shows up.
• 1:08:45
  And I said I was with the other ex and I said, how does this
• 1:08:49
  benefit you by killing him? Because he's not doing anything
• 1:08:54
  wrong. His death is not putting him in
• 1:08:57
  hell. Why?
• 1:08:57
  Why is this good for you? And they said we just like to
• 1:09:01
  torment him. And if it weren't for Michael,
• 1:09:04
  he would be dead. And I said Michael, and he says,
• 1:09:08
  yes, Michael sent a League of Angels to bring him, bring the
• 1:09:14
  paramedics to the woods to find him because, you know, who would
• 1:09:18
  ever find somebody in the woods anyway?
• 1:09:20
  It was a very weird, you know, story.
• 1:09:23
  And you can't trust the demons because they lie.
• 1:09:25
  But the fact of the matter is, you know, I, I did want to talk
• 1:09:29
  to the EMS crew and say, did you get a call or were you just
• 1:09:32
  wondering like, how'd you find him?
• 1:09:34
  And even the doctor said that they were, when they brought him
• 1:09:37
  in, they had very little to say about him because they basically
• 1:09:40
  just stumbled upon, they were going past this location and
• 1:09:44
  there was a bunch of people they saw in the woods and they, they
• 1:09:48
  saw that there was some kind of a, they seem panicked.
• 1:09:51
  So they just kind of like, are you OK?
• 1:09:53
  And they said, no, this guy, he's having a problem and they
• 1:09:56
  took him and took him to the hospital.
• 1:09:59
  So John did have his exesm that day.
• 1:10:02
  In the hospital. No, we took him to the church.
• 1:10:05
  We took him to one of the churches, not my church, but one
• 1:10:09
  of the Nashville churches. And we cleaned him up.
• 1:10:14
  We took him, we brought him some clothes, we bought him clothes.
• 1:10:17
  We took him there and told him to take a shower and get cleaned
• 1:10:20
  up. And then he came out dressed and
• 1:10:23
  ready to go. Took him into the church, did
• 1:10:25
  the whole exorcism and he he was still not liberated.
• 1:10:30
  And that was his maybe fourth or fifth time we we did the right
• 1:10:38
  with him. It was soon after that he was
• 1:10:42
  arrested in Alabama for some something I think he was
• 1:10:49
  stealing and he was thrown in prison.
• 1:10:52
  And that's the last I ever heard of him.
• 1:10:54
  But at least in prison I knew he was at least getting food and
• 1:10:59
  somebody was monitoring his life, but never heard back from
• 1:11:03
  him. Do you think about him?
• 1:11:08
  Every now and then, yeah. Is it do people in prison who
• 1:11:11
  are possessed, do they have sometimes access to an exorcist
• 1:11:14
  as do prisons? Prisons do allow clergy
• 1:11:16
  sometimes. Perhaps, but it's unlikely
• 1:11:20
  because they would just probably diagnose them with schizophrenia
• 1:11:23
  and they put them on drugs which just completely sedates them and
• 1:11:26
  makes them into a zombie. What do you think?
• 1:11:32
  I know we can't we can only guess at the ways of God because
• 1:11:35
  and we know he's merciful and just and far more merciful than
• 1:11:39
  we are. Of course, there's no
• 1:11:40
  comparison. But when you when you're faced
• 1:11:43
  with that, which is, you know, it's not a success story in like
• 1:11:46
  the human calculation of do the exorcism, it's done, it works.
• 1:11:49
  The guy's free, goes on to have this beautiful life.
• 1:11:51
  You know, the guy's in prison and it sounds like it wasn't his
• 1:11:54
  fault. I mean, I don't know.
• 1:11:56
  I can't I can't speak to this with authority, obviously, but
• 1:11:58
  it sounds like, you know, he was living a decent life until he
• 1:12:02
  became possessed. I guess the YouTube video that
• 1:12:05
  was his fault to do that. That was stupid.
• 1:12:07
  But then he got possessed, lost his girlfriend, lost his job,
• 1:12:09
  lost his car, lost his shelter, lost everything.
• 1:12:11
  And now he's, you know, committing illegal activities,
• 1:12:14
  which may be the devil is prompting.
• 1:12:16
  I mean, how does, how do you see the kind of theology at play
• 1:12:20
  there of what we believe to be true as Catholics about free
• 1:12:23
  will? It's hard to reconcile it all
• 1:12:26
  because, you know, even the phone number I had for him, at
• 1:12:33
  some point it was, you know, you call the number, it says number
• 1:12:36
  no longer working. So like it literally he just got
• 1:12:40
  cut off completely. Then I heard from somebody else
• 1:12:44
  that they heard he was in jail or prison down in Alabama.
• 1:12:46
  But it's it is a sad story, but we don't know how it ends
• 1:12:52
  because maybe in prison he got enough grace to to finally say I
• 1:13:00
  because it really goes back to your will as well.
• 1:13:01
  Like you have to the will is so important in these things.
• 1:13:06
  Like you have to really want to say like, I want nothing but
• 1:13:09
  God. You.
• 1:13:10
  You want, meaning you meaning. There's no such thing as someone
• 1:13:13
  so possessed that they still can't make an act towards God of
• 1:13:15
  their will. I don't know if I could say that
• 1:13:18
  because I don't. I have only been doing this for
• 1:13:20
  about six to seven years, but I would say you'd have to look
• 1:13:27
  into somebody like Monsignor Rosetti or, you know, God bless
• 1:13:30
  God, Gabriel Lamarth, who's gone.
• 1:13:31
  But he would these kind of guys would know better.
• 1:13:35
  But I do think God always makes a way, you know, even in prison,
• 1:13:41
  that could be a way made because if the person really wants it,
• 1:13:45
  the problem with this kid was he was looking for a higher access
• 1:13:51
  to power by opening the third eye.
• 1:13:53
  So that's where it's idolatry. It's in that that's the problem.
• 1:13:58
  It wasn't the stupid video. It was just that he was seeking
• 1:14:02
  for a knowledge that was out, you know, apart from God.
• 1:14:06
  I want him. I want this special gift that's
• 1:14:08
  going to make me incredibly strong, smart, whatever.
• 1:14:13
  And it's not through God. It's a it's a separate from God.
• 1:14:18
  So he had that's the thing. He you'd have to let go of and
• 1:14:21
  say like I repent of that. I don't want this anymore.
• 1:14:23
  I realized this was wrong. Maybe he found that in jail, I
• 1:14:26
  don't know. Have you seen demonic activity
• 1:14:30
  because of things like abortion or sex?
• 1:14:35
  You know, immoral sexual activity.
• 1:14:38
  Those are open door. Of course, those are open doors,
• 1:14:40
  yeah. Have you had, have you dealt
• 1:14:41
  with that in the past and what does that looked like?
• 1:14:44
  What's kind of an example of what that might look like?
• 1:14:48
  Well, The thing is, this is where people get kind of caught
• 1:14:53
  up is like, for whatever reason, everybody who commits a certain
• 1:14:59
  sin doesn't become possessed. But we know that even one mortal
• 1:15:05
  sin is enough to for a demon to enter and take over.
• 1:15:09
  Thankfully, that doesn't happen hardly ever, but that's enough.
• 1:15:17
  You know, this the the taking of life.
• 1:15:20
  We know now that they're they're the Satanic church is open an
• 1:15:23
  abortion clinic. So now they're directly offering
• 1:15:26
  these babies to the devil. We know that witches offer to
• 1:15:30
  pay for abortion so they can be present in the abortion room and
• 1:15:33
  they can also offer the baby to the devil.
• 1:15:36
  Of course, the modern woman would think, well, that's just
• 1:15:39
  hocus pocus. You know, we know better.
• 1:15:42
  We're we're cosmopolitan people, that's all.
• 1:15:46
  We kill our baby. It's.
• 1:15:47
  Not demonic. Make believe there's no devil.
• 1:15:49
  I don't know what the witch is doing, but it's not real.
• 1:15:51
  Well, it is real. I think what we saw at the DNC
• 1:15:57
  convention when they put the abortion bus in front of the
• 1:16:00
  convention, to me that was Malek 2 point.
• 1:16:03
  OI mean it. They dress it up and make it
• 1:16:07
  look civilized, but it's it's no worse or better than it was 2000
• 1:16:11
  years ago. So people would say, well, how
• 1:16:16
  come everybody doesn't get possessed who does these things?
• 1:16:18
  I said I don't, I don't know. Thank God they don't, but how do
• 1:16:24
  we know the devil isn't accomplishing what he wants out
• 1:16:26
  of that? I mean, the idea possession is
• 1:16:28
  not the end game, it's not the goal of the devil is make
• 1:16:31
  everybody possessed because as I said, possession doesn't put you
• 1:16:34
  in hell. The open door that made you
• 1:16:37
  possess potentially could the send, but then if you repented
• 1:16:41
  the same and you still and you're still possessed and you
• 1:16:45
  die, you potentially are not going to hell.
• 1:16:49
  So that's his goal is not to make everybody possess.
• 1:16:51
  His goal is to get everybody to go to hell.
• 1:16:55
  And I would say when we look at our world today to convince
• 1:16:58
  everybody that you're fine to persist in your behaviors
• 1:17:03
  because God loves everybody and nobody's going to hell.
• 1:17:07
  That's a win for the devil. He doesn't need to make all
• 1:17:11
  these possessed people. In fact, it might wake people up
• 1:17:14
  to say we we have to change. If everybody started seeing
• 1:17:17
  everybody around the blocks possessed, people would get
• 1:17:21
  frightened and they'd run to the church.
• 1:17:23
  He doesn't want that. But even though he doesn't want
• 1:17:27
  that, they're still definitively you've been noticing an increase
• 1:17:31
  in demonic activity. It's like they can't help but
• 1:17:33
  enjoy the tormenting of these souls and the the antics.
• 1:17:36
  Because despair is, that's all that is the goal.
• 1:17:40
  You know, despair is a terrible thing.
• 1:17:42
  And people give up and they stop praying, and then they even move
• 1:17:46
  further away from God and they become even more potentially a
• 1:17:50
  target. So.
• 1:17:51
  Has there been an exorcism that you've been involved with that
• 1:17:54
  was particularly, you know, particularly faith bolstering
• 1:17:58
  for you, meaning the way that you saw God show up in that
• 1:18:02
  exorcism, overcoming the devil gave you special consolation or
• 1:18:06
  support, I don't know. If that makes.
• 1:18:09
  The first one when? Our Lady just, you know, like
• 1:18:12
  all she has to do is glance in their direction and they are
• 1:18:15
  gone. And so I often when I have
• 1:18:18
  discussions with Baptists or Protestants who are like, you
• 1:18:21
  know, she's just a regular woman.
• 1:18:22
  Why do you give her so much credit?
• 1:18:24
  I go, well, I have personal experience that she's not an
• 1:18:27
  ordinary woman at all. You know, the demons flee from
• 1:18:31
  her in a way I've never seen before.
• 1:18:34
  So let's start there and then we can backtrack into theology and
• 1:18:37
  get the whole picture. You know, I find if you go back
• 1:18:40
  into the Old Testament scriptures about the mother of
• 1:18:43
  the king, so Solomon's mother, the mother of the king was
• 1:18:48
  always the Queen Mother and had particular favor with the king
• 1:18:51
  and had particular faculties granted her by the king on his
• 1:18:55
  behalf to make his presence known in the Kingdom.
• 1:19:00
  And that's really the model that Jesus took for his own
• 1:19:02
  relationship with his mother. She's not God, she's not divine,
• 1:19:07
  but she is the Queen Mother. And and that role she has is so
• 1:19:11
  profoundly powerful in the life of the of everybody because
• 1:19:15
  she's taking us all as her children.
• 1:19:18
  And she has such influence and power to dispense grace on our
• 1:19:22
  behalf. And it just, it's a little sad
• 1:19:25
  to think that this huge swaths of, of religions that just deny
• 1:19:29
  her completely because they've been deceived.
• 1:19:33
  They're literally been deceived and they're, they don't know who
• 1:19:36
  she is. They will at some point, you
• 1:19:39
  know, at the end of life. And it'll be a great regret that
• 1:19:41
  they wasted all these years that they couldn't have included her
• 1:19:44
  in their life. But it, it, it does grieve me at
• 1:19:47
  times when I think about it, You know, this woman who wants
• 1:19:49
  nothing but the best for us. Imagine when she looks down and
• 1:19:53
  realizes one of the biggest blocks to people fully
• 1:19:59
  ascending. To giving everything to God is
• 1:20:03
  is her that they've made her the issue why they won't accept the
• 1:20:09
  truth of the faith of the Catholic faith.
• 1:20:12
  That has to be another sword piercing her heart that you
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  know, and of course that's his game.
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  He can't hurt God, but he can hurt God's children.
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  Our Lady of Guadalupe is so fascinating to me because, you
• 1:20:25
  know, apparition in Mexico, Juan Diego, there's human sacrifice
• 1:20:30
  happening. You know, the word of her, the
• 1:20:33
  fame of her appearance, her apparition spreads throughout
• 1:20:36
  the region. There's millions of conversions.
• 1:20:40
  They stop quickly. They stop human sacrifice.
• 1:20:43
  I mean, they're doing brutal human sacrifices to the gods,
• 1:20:45
  including of children. They stop all of that.
• 1:20:48
  They become a Catholic nation. I mean, I think about it.
• 1:20:53
  I think about our country and we we have a million abortions a
• 1:20:56
  year and I do think she Our Lady of Guadalupe is for excuse me,
• 1:21:02
  it's for Northern America, you know, obviously for Mexico and
• 1:21:05
  for America and abortion's happening in Mexico right now in
• 1:21:08
  the first trimester especially. But you know, was that was Our
• 1:21:14
  Lady of Guadalupe for America today.
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  And are we going to have the conversion that she, you know,
• 1:21:20
  was instrumental in having for the Aztecs?
• 1:21:23
  And can we have, you know, can there be another apparition
• 1:21:26
  soon? Should we pray for that in
• 1:21:28
  America, the USA to stop the bloodshed here?
• 1:21:31
  Because it's, it's a, it's a historic amount of bloodshed
• 1:21:34
  that's happening in the United States right now.
• 1:21:38
  Well, we can pray for the. I would just say pray for the
• 1:21:44
  conversion of the world. Just leave it at that.
• 1:21:46
  I mean, if, if she wants to do it through, if God wants to do
• 1:21:49
  it through an apparition, fine. But maybe he has another plan.
• 1:21:53
  You know what I mentioned before that we know her triumph of her
• 1:21:57
  Immaculate hearts coming. She promised it.
• 1:21:59
  You know, you want to look at a crazy apparition, go to Our Lady
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  of Good Success in Quito, Ecuador.
• 1:22:04
  Do you know about that one? I do not.
• 1:22:07
  You can do 5 shows on that alone.
• 1:22:10
  It's the most insane. Is it approved by the church?
• 1:22:13
  It's approved by the church, up and down, back and forth.
• 1:22:16
  Yes. Is it new?
• 1:22:17
  Is it recent? 400 years ago.
• 1:22:19
  See, this is the ignorance of so many, including myself.
• 1:22:21
  But. But but you just don't even
• 1:22:22
  know. OK, so just a quick synopsis.
• 1:22:25
  So this a little group of sisters from Spain that go to
• 1:22:30
  Ecuador. They establish a convent in
• 1:22:33
  Quito. After some time, the mother
• 1:22:37
  Superior has an apparition of Our Lady who appears with a
• 1:22:41
  scepter on one hand, the baby Jesus on the other.
• 1:22:43
  They were the symbolic, symbolic way she appeared was to mean
• 1:22:47
  that, you know, she's still the mother of God, but also our
• 1:22:50
  mother. And she wanted to be the
• 1:22:51
  superior of this convent with the scepter.
• 1:22:53
  And she said to them, on the superior, I would like a statue
• 1:22:56
  made in the image of me with my child Jesus.
• 1:22:59
  And I want you to go to the Bishop and tell him that I've
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  appeared and I would like to be the prioress over this convent.
• 1:23:07
  And I will protect this convent all, all the years that you're
• 1:23:10
  faithful. This is 400 years ago.
• 1:23:12
  And she also said she revealed to her many things about the
• 1:23:15
  future, literally about the future of Ecuador, that they
• 1:23:21
  there were coups constantly being overthrown governments.
• 1:23:23
  It was very chaotic, no stability, she said.
• 1:23:26
  There will be a man voted in who will be a great Catholic
• 1:23:30
  president and he will consecrate the country to the Sacred Heart
• 1:23:33
  and he will be murdered by basically by Muslim terrorists
• 1:23:40
  of the day, Sassarons or whatever they call them.
• 1:23:44
  And all these things came to be. This man was elected.
• 1:23:48
  He's he consecrated the whole country.
• 1:23:50
  This is a not a priest. This is the president.
• 1:23:52
  Did he know the man who, the Catholic man who became
• 1:23:54
  president, that Our Lady had appeared and given this
• 1:23:57
  prophecy? Don't know that because he she
• 1:24:00
  also Our Lady also said this will be hidden.
• 1:24:03
  These everything I'm telling you will go dormant for almost 400
• 1:24:08
  years and then we'll be very much publicized.
• 1:24:11
  And most importantly, I'm asking you as sisters of this comment
• 1:24:16
  to pray for the people of the 20th century.
• 1:24:20
  That period is when everything will fall apart.
• 1:24:22
  That is when the sacraments will all but go away.
• 1:24:26
  Finding a virgin will be very difficult in these years.
• 1:24:30
  People will not be married in the Church.
• 1:24:32
  People will not be asking for final rites before death.
• 1:24:34
  Everything will be just going away.
• 1:24:37
  And she named all men will dress like women, women like men.
• 1:24:40
  And they didn't know what she was talking about.
• 1:24:42
  They didn't even understand what she was saying, but they wrote
• 1:24:44
  it all down. And then it gets better from
• 1:24:47
  there because then she finally goes to the, she never went to
• 1:24:51
  the Bishop she didn't want, she was afraid to tell the Bishop.
• 1:24:53
  And the third time she didn't, Our Lady appeared to her again
• 1:24:57
  and then kind of chastised her for her lack of obedience.
• 1:25:02
  And if you want to motivate a nun, you tell her she's
• 1:25:04
  disobedient and she will get right into that Bishop's office.
• 1:25:07
  And she did and finally told him and he kind of embraced it.
• 1:25:12
  And so she hired an artist to make the statue and he wanted to
• 1:25:17
  get better paint. So he was going to sail to Spain
• 1:25:19
  to get better paint, which takes a long time.
• 1:25:22
  And Our Lady appeared after a few months, said, no, it's too
• 1:25:25
  long, we have to finish it. And so she brought in angels and
• 1:25:27
  all the sisters in the kind of watch as angels finished
• 1:25:30
  painting the statue. And then Francis appeared and
• 1:25:33
  took off his cincture and and rode the statue with his
• 1:25:37
  cincture. And then they all sang the Salve
• 1:25:41
  Regina like an heavenly choir in the loft.
• 1:25:45
  And then they all disappeared. And to this day, the convents
• 1:25:51
  never been taken over. It's literally next to the
• 1:25:54
  presidential palace, which is like the prime real estate of of
• 1:25:56
  the capital. And they've tried for centuries
• 1:26:00
  to steal this from the nuns and they can never get it away.
• 1:26:04
  All these prophecies came true except for the last one.
• 1:26:07
  The last one was My heart will triumph and the world will
• 1:26:11
  return to God. That's going to happen.
• 1:26:14
  That's going to happen, do. You think it's starting to
• 1:26:17
  happen? It's hell, we're in it.
• 1:26:18
  We're in it. Isn't that exciting?
• 1:26:20
  Yes. Yeah, so I keep telling people,
• 1:26:22
  hold on, you know, hold on. Keep your prayers going.
• 1:26:26
  I preached on this Sunday. Hope drives perseverance.
• 1:26:32
  And in the life of the Catholic, it's so critically important,
• 1:26:35
  especially the days we live. 2025 for perseverance it's the
• 1:26:39
  number one thing I see taking people out is they give up and
• 1:26:42
  they say I can't deal with this it's too much I've.
• 1:26:44
  Had a knife, it's. Too hard, nothing's happening.
• 1:26:47
  My prayers aren't working. Whereas God, he's sleeping.
• 1:26:51
  You have to hold. You know, Peter held got back
• 1:26:56
  up. He came back, he repented.
• 1:26:58
  Look at Paul. Paul was a terrorist.
• 1:27:00
  Becomes the greatest evangelizer of the 2000 years, on and on.
• 1:27:07
  David, murderer, adulterer, eventually repents, finishes his
• 1:27:13
  life. All of them.
• 1:27:16
  You know who didn't hold? You know who gave up?
• 1:27:18
  Judas. You do not want to be in that
• 1:27:20
  camp. Don't give up.
• 1:27:23
  Keep going. And again, you have to form
• 1:27:26
  prayer groups. If you're having a tough time
• 1:27:28
  alone, invite another two people to come once a week and just
• 1:27:31
  maybe pray the rosary together so you have a little backup
• 1:27:33
  system. I think it's important, you
• 1:27:36
  know, we're a community where a family, God himself is a
• 1:27:39
  community. And then he was born into a
• 1:27:40
  family. And yet we've become a very
• 1:27:43
  isolated culture, right? Because I lived in New York City
• 1:27:48
  for a dozen years, you know, in apartment buildings that might
• 1:27:53
  be 4 or 6 or whatever apartments on a floor.
• 1:27:57
  And I never knew any neighbors. You might see someone coming,
• 1:28:01
  going, but nobody said hello. Nobody invited you in.
• 1:28:03
  Nobody was like, hey, what are you doing this weekend?
• 1:28:06
  Like, it's a very transactional life.
• 1:28:08
  Like you just do your thing. You kind of live your life and
• 1:28:12
  you find your friends. And that's not how God wanted us
• 1:28:15
  to be. We're all part of his family.
• 1:28:18
  He wants us to come together and be supporting each other,
• 1:28:21
  lifting each other up, looking out for each other.
• 1:28:24
  You know, at the wedding of Cana, Our Lady, one of her gifts
• 1:28:27
  is she's always aware of everybody's needs.
• 1:28:29
  That's a really good quality. Like if we all had that quality,
• 1:28:32
  the world would be a different place.
• 1:28:34
  So there's a lot, there's so much to be hopeful about The the
• 1:28:39
  media is going to have you focus on everything that's wrong and
• 1:28:42
  try to drag you down. So you got to keep your, your
• 1:28:46
  eye on the goal. The goal is Jesus and heaven.
• 1:28:50
  And if you keep on the goal, you'll get there.
• 1:28:53
  It sounds like our Lord talks to you a lot.
• 1:28:56
  You you have a beautiful relationship with our Lord.
• 1:28:59
  And I'm curious if just when you're going about your daily
• 1:29:03
  business, especially as an exorcist, if you get insights
• 1:29:06
  about people and you kind of can tell there's something demonic
• 1:29:09
  happening here or you get an insight of like, oh, I could I
• 1:29:12
  should say this word to this person or encourage this person.
• 1:29:15
  I mean, whatever you're. Willing to share, I'll tell you
• 1:29:17
  if you're, if you're living out your Catholic vocation, well,
• 1:29:23
  you should have a radar about you where you can sense radical
• 1:29:27
  holiness and you can sense radical evil.
• 1:29:30
  And I think that's across the board.
• 1:29:33
  Even when I wasn't practicing my faith, I had encounters with
• 1:29:37
  particularly evil people where it's so it's like the Spider Man
• 1:29:41
  senses go off and you're just like, whoa, that's dangerous.
• 1:29:45
  I was on a subway at like 3:00 AM on a platform in New York
• 1:29:48
  City coming home for a party, and I walked down.
• 1:29:51
  There's nobody on the platform except one guy about 20 yards to
• 1:29:54
  my right. I looked at him and he looked at
• 1:29:57
  me and there literally his face was like I could see the demon
• 1:30:02
  coming out of his eyes. And it scared the hell out of
• 1:30:06
  me. And I literally ran up the steps
• 1:30:08
  and held the cab. I was terrified.
• 1:30:10
  That's a good thing. That's like preservation.
• 1:30:13
  Like stay away from something that that is that evil.
• 1:30:17
  Similarly, I've been in the presence of people where you
• 1:30:22
  just can sense that there's such a powerful anointing of God on
• 1:30:25
  them and it just is like seeping out of them where you can sense
• 1:30:29
  the holiness. And it's so attractive because
• 1:30:31
  you're like, oh, I, I have to talk to this person.
• 1:30:33
  I want to just know what they're about, What are they doing?
• 1:30:36
  And, you know, give me a word or something.
• 1:30:40
  And that's a good thing. Having said that, I've had
• 1:30:46
  instances where there's unusual awareness of something that's
• 1:30:50
  going on. And sometimes it'll be just a,
• 1:30:55
  a, a verse in a song that jumps out of the radio where you're
• 1:30:58
  really not paying attention. Then you hear that line, you're
• 1:31:00
  like, Oh yes, yes, I needed to hear that.
• 1:31:04
  Or one day I was heading to a very volatile meeting that was
• 1:31:07
  going to be absolute carnage and chaos, and I'm driving and I'm
• 1:31:13
  thinking, oh the Lord, this is going to be a disaster.
• 1:31:15
  Please an exorcism or just like a HR thing?
• 1:31:19
  It was a diocesan thing. And there was a, there was a
• 1:31:22
  group of people that wanted to throw me out of a parish and
• 1:31:24
  there was a hostile meeting and, and I knew it was going to be
• 1:31:29
  bad because it was sort of like all the worst of the worst.
• 1:31:32
  And there was nobody really representing me.
• 1:31:35
  And I'm driving up to this meeting and I come to a red
• 1:31:41
  light and I look up at the car in front of me and the license
• 1:31:44
  plate. Well, I'll never forget it was
• 1:31:46
  HVF 8 TH have faith. And I just looked at it and
• 1:31:53
  went, oh wow, that's great. I like that.
• 1:31:57
  And then I got closer to the to the Catholic center.
• 1:32:02
  I had one more red light and the truck in front of me had a big
• 1:32:06
  sign on the back and said help is on the way.
• 1:32:08
  And I was like, this is very interesting.
• 1:32:11
  I'm like, I'm, I'm choosing to believe this is not coincidence.
• 1:32:14
  And I think a lot of people don't do that.
• 1:32:16
  They go with coincidence doesn't mean anything for me.
• 1:32:19
  It meant everything. And that meeting sort of
• 1:32:22
  horrendous. Just ranting and raving at me
• 1:32:27
  how they hated the Saint Michael prayer.
• 1:32:28
  They wanted it stopped. So it was terrifying their
• 1:32:31
  children. I just sat there for an hour.
• 1:32:34
  I was berated in front of the chancellor, the administrator,
• 1:32:39
  the diocesan lawyer, everybody. And and then all of a sudden it
• 1:32:44
  just took a turn and the the lawyer said, well, we've heard
• 1:32:50
  all of your complaints. And honestly, I think the same I
• 1:32:54
  compare is to protect people. And honestly, the only people I
• 1:32:58
  think are afraid of it is the devil.
• 1:33:00
  So where don't know what's going on with your kids.
• 1:33:05
  And then it just kind of said, well, that's that's it.
• 1:33:07
  We're done. And I thank you all for coming.
• 1:33:09
  And they said, you know, Father, you're free to go with we don't
• 1:33:12
  think anything's wrong. Bye.
• 1:33:13
  It was very weird. And I knew it was like that was
• 1:33:18
  the prayer and just the trust. And yeah, the the most
• 1:33:25
  interesting or weird or crazy thing that ever happened.
• 1:33:28
  I'm giving a Sunday homily and in the middle of my homily, I
• 1:33:33
  hear a voice. I don't know if it was Jesus or
• 1:33:39
  the Father, but he was, I was God.
• 1:33:40
  I can, I kind of know when it's him.
• 1:33:42
  I can't differentiate between the people all the time, but I,
• 1:33:45
  I can tell it's definitely God. And he says, there's somebody in
• 1:33:50
  the congregation who's going to kill themselves today.
• 1:33:53
  Tell them not to do it. Tell them that they're to have
• 1:33:57
  hope and that life is about to change.
• 1:33:59
  And I just kind of like, I'm ignoring this, thinking what is
• 1:34:02
  this is like, who is this? And I'm trying to concentrate on
• 1:34:05
  delivering A homily, which, you know, you, you can't just stop
• 1:34:09
  and like, hold on, I'm I'm hearing something.
• 1:34:11
  You look like a lunatic. So I keep going and it's second
• 1:34:15
  time tell them to have hope and that life is going to change.
• 1:34:19
  Do not kill yourself. I'm just like, who does this?
• 1:34:24
  Like I And then I just said, you know what, I'm just going to try
• 1:34:28
  to do this as casually as possible.
• 1:34:29
  I said, you know what, I'm going to pause here because I'm just
• 1:34:33
  getting a sense there's somebody out there who right now is
• 1:34:36
  considering suicide. And the Lord is telling me he
• 1:34:40
  has a plan for you and to stop these thoughts and to have hope
• 1:34:45
  that your life's about to change.
• 1:34:47
  OK, I'm going back to the homily.
• 1:34:50
  So aftermath, do you know, three people came up to me and said
• 1:34:54
  that was for me, not 1/3 like with tears in their eyes.
• 1:35:00
  I was just like, like, it was actually terrifying to think if
• 1:35:07
  I hadn't said it, like I could be dealing with three funerals
• 1:35:10
  the next week. So it's just like, whoa, that
• 1:35:14
  that kind of that kind of that stuff scares me because it's a
• 1:35:17
  test. Do I have enough courage, wine
• 1:35:20
  and trust too, to believe? Is it really you, Lord?
• 1:35:22
  And then should I really do it? So.
• 1:35:26
  What if sometimes it's not the Lord and it is our imagination,
• 1:35:28
  but it's still moral. It's not like it's that the
• 1:35:30
  voice is saying go, you know, punch a puppy.
• 1:35:32
  It's like a, you know, go say hi to that Lady, you know, go give
• 1:35:36
  a go, give a word of encouragement to that person
• 1:35:38
  over there. Like it's something that's you
• 1:35:40
  know, and you're like, is that just like, you know me, you
• 1:35:43
  know, thinking thoughts or is that really the Lord?
• 1:35:45
  And I'm really busy right now. I guess maybe the. 22 thoughts
• 1:35:49
  on that one is if it's a good action that would give glory to
• 1:35:56
  God, even if it's not God, it's it's good.
• 1:35:59
  OK, that's good. The caveat to that is the devil
• 1:36:03
  can spin your wheels where you're spending the whole day
• 1:36:05
  chasing these fascinations of doing all these things and it's
• 1:36:09
  really distracting from the one thing God really wants you to
• 1:36:11
  do. That would be the danger.
• 1:36:13
  So if it's, if it's a constant like, go do this, go do.
• 1:36:16
  That that's like. OK, this is normal because I'm
• 1:36:19
  no longer living my life. I'm just chasing these these
• 1:36:22
  thoughts and then it that doesn't seem like the Lord.
• 1:36:25
  He doesn't operate like that. He's we don't see an example in
• 1:36:28
  scripture of him just constantly, you know, all the
• 1:36:30
  time to go do this, go do that, go do this, go do that.
• 1:36:33
  It's. Chaotic.
• 1:36:34
  It's not how it works. Yeah, and it's a little bit too
• 1:36:36
  random and it's not qualified the way.
• 1:36:40
  Once off here and there, fine, But once I was going downtown to
• 1:36:46
  work in the winter, it was super cold.
• 1:36:49
  I'm coming down Wall Street from Broadway and.
• 1:36:54
  It was before the priesthood. Oh yeah, post conversion, but
• 1:36:57
  before priesthood and the Lord said there's a homeless man in
• 1:37:02
  the park under the big the biggest pine tree and he's going
• 1:37:05
  to die if he doesn't get inside. And I'm like thinking same
• 1:37:10
  thing. Like what is this?
• 1:37:12
  Is this like? But I, you know, I'm like, I
• 1:37:15
  don't normally think things like that ever.
• 1:37:17
  So I'm like, it's coming from somebody.
• 1:37:19
  It's not me. I'm just worried about getting
• 1:37:21
  to work and diving into my day. So I say, fine, I'm going to
• 1:37:24
  walk into the park, the little park at the bottom of wall.
• 1:37:28
  I'm looking for the biggest tree.
• 1:37:29
  There it is. I look under the tree, there's a
• 1:37:30
  guy there and he's not clothed for winter.
• 1:37:33
  He's dressed in like, you know, like AT shirt and a flannel.
• 1:37:36
  And he's lying on the ground, looks like he looks dead, but
• 1:37:39
  he's asleep and it's like 20°. So I wake him up and I go, hey,
• 1:37:43
  you can't stay here. It's freezing out.
• 1:37:46
  So I took him over to the lobby across from where my office was
• 1:37:49
  that had one of those. You know, you walk through the
• 1:37:53
  doors and then there's like a heated section and then the next
• 1:37:55
  set of doors gets you into the building.
• 1:37:57
  So I put him in the heated section.
• 1:37:59
  I took off my coat and a big wool coat.
• 1:38:01
  I gave him the coat and I said, here, keep the coat, but just
• 1:38:04
  stay in here till you warm up. And then I went was going to run
• 1:38:07
  across the back, go to my where I work halfway across the
• 1:38:11
  street. I realized my keys are in my
• 1:38:12
  coat and like, so I go running back and he sees me coming and
• 1:38:16
  he had a look of such despair, like I was going to take the
• 1:38:20
  coat from him. I mean, literally his face just
• 1:38:23
  got so sad. And I said, hey, hey, hey, I'm
• 1:38:26
  not taking the coat, but my keys I have to take.
• 1:38:29
  And I reached in the pocket, took my keys.
• 1:38:30
  I said that's why I want it. And he like was so happy again
• 1:38:36
  to my office and I walked into the lake.
• 1:38:38
  You know, did you come here without a coat?
• 1:38:40
  And I'm like, no, it's, it's across the street.
• 1:38:42
  Don't. It's a long story, but you know,
• 1:38:46
  you only have to have a few of those where you're like, this is
• 1:38:48
  real. Like I couldn't have invented
• 1:38:51
  that guy sleeping under the big tree.
• 1:38:53
  It's crazy. You think the Lord would talk to
• 1:38:55
  more of us that way if we had the willingness to listen to the
• 1:38:58
  faith? And the more you step out, the
• 1:39:00
  more he'll he'll keep using you. But the more you fear it and the
• 1:39:05
  more you shut it down, the the less you know.
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  To the to those who have much, I'll give more.
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  To those who have even a little, I'll take it away if they're not
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  using it. How should someone discern if
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  they're dealing with a situation where they're like, fearful that
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  it might be the devil involved, but they're not sure.
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  What would you recommend that they do?
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  And this could be something, anything between like hearing
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  noises in the night towards erratic behavior from someone
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  that they love towards, you know, something really dark
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  happened in the family and they're afraid it's going to
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  affect them or their kids, you know, any number of things.
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  I think the the best advice for any situation is you take
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  everything to Jesus, say everything to Jesus, say, Lord,
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  this is on my heart. This is, this is disturbing me.
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  This is frightening me. I maybe this is you asked me to
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  do something, but I want to double check with you.
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  You know, I always say the best part of discernment is take
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  everything to God and roll it, run it past him and, and then
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  say, I'm not sure yet. I need a sign from you or just
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  direct me or open a door that I'll walk through and, and I'm
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  happy to do it, but I want to make sure I'm serving you and
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  only you. That's fair.
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  You know, because he knows we're weak and we're not perfect at
• 1:40:18
  discerning and listening and understanding what his will is
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  in all things. So like, but if you always bring
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  it to like, look, if Eve went back to God and said, Hey, this
• 1:40:29
  this serpent's telling me you're holding out on us with that
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  tree. And you know, the father would
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  have said, no, he's lying to you because he wants to destroy you.
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  Oh OK, well we're not going to go back to him then.
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  Would have been a different scenario.
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  Write it past the Lord. And for somebody that maybe
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  isn't Catholic, but they are concerned that there is like
• 1:40:53
  demonic activity happening. And I know some like non
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  Catholic Christian friends who they do their own deliverance
• 1:40:59
  prayers. They feel like they have a
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  meaningful way to do their own form of spiritual warfare.
• 1:41:03
  They invoke scripture, holy scripture.
• 1:41:05
  They, you know, call on God. You know, they call on the name
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  of Jesus. Do you think that that can be
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  effective? And at what point do you think
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  an exorcist should be called like an official exorcist, not
• 1:41:18
  just someone who says I do deliverance ministry?
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  OK, like I, I don't think that maybe I didn't mention her
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  today, but it's a Catherine of Siena was a layperson.
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  When the exorcist couldn't get the demons out, they sent them
• 1:41:30
  to her and she just one look from her and they went.
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  So she's the anomaly. She's not the standard, but God
• 1:41:37
  can work outside the box too. He doesn't.
• 1:41:39
  He's not boxed in by what we proclaim to be the way we do
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  things. But having said that, if you
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  don't know what you're doing and you're not prepared, you can get
• 1:41:49
  a lot of trouble. So if you go to like Acts 18,
• 1:41:52
  the sons of Skiva, those guys were watching the apostles drive
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  back to even say, oh, we should do it, too.
• 1:41:59
  But they didn't know Jesus. And the demons knew that.
• 1:42:02
  And they said, well, who are you?
• 1:42:03
  We Jesus? We know, and Paul, too, but we
• 1:42:05
  don't know you. And then started beating them
• 1:42:07
  and stripped them of their clothes.
• 1:42:09
  They ran into the house naked and screaming and bruised.
• 1:42:12
  That didn't work out well. So like, if you don't know what
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  you're doing and you're directly going to go against what the
• 1:42:18
  church is asking you to do, you could be putting yourself out on
• 1:42:21
  a limb. Father Chad Ripperger, I
• 1:42:24
  believe, has the best book about deliverance for the lady that's
• 1:42:27
  ever been written. Go by the book.
• 1:42:30
  Read the instructions at the beginning.
• 1:42:31
  Don't skip them. He gives you what authority you
• 1:42:34
  have as a layperson, as a married person, as a parent,
• 1:42:38
  Very clear. And the prayers are very good.
• 1:42:40
  The best and then follow that. Now supplication is a different
• 1:42:45
  story that's asking the father to do it.
• 1:42:47
  We can do that in every situation where we're asking
• 1:42:49
  father deliver us from this evil that's in the our father any
• 1:42:53
  situation that you're afraid of anything and all you can always
• 1:42:55
  go straight to the Father say Father help me protect me from
• 1:42:59
  this evil Saint Michael the Archangel come to our
• 1:43:01
  assistance. Jesus cover me in your blood.
• 1:43:03
  Mary, cover me in your mantle protection like all those are
• 1:43:05
  very powerful good prayers. Psalm 91, brilliantly written
• 1:43:11
  Psalm about protection over you, your family, your property, your
• 1:43:14
  life. So we have what we need and it's
• 1:43:18
  a big basket of like weapons and armaments, but for each
• 1:43:24
  situation it might be a little different.
• 1:43:27
  But living out your Christian identity to the fullest is the
• 1:43:31
  best protection you have. Because when you, like Catherine
• 1:43:35
  said, you know you're you manfully alive is the glory of
• 1:43:40
  God. When you're fully living out
• 1:43:42
  your identity as a son or daughter of God, the demons will
• 1:43:45
  fear you, fear you, they'll be frightened of you.
• 1:43:50
  Their power will be diminished because of your reflecting the
• 1:43:53
  glory of God out into the world. So nothing to fear.
• 1:43:58
  How do you keep up your health physically, emotionally,
• 1:44:03
  spiritually while you're doing exorcisms and your, you know,
• 1:44:08
  serving your parish and you're on the road?
• 1:44:11
  Thankfully, we get your presence here.
• 1:44:13
  You're going to be doing retreats, you're doing
• 1:44:15
  conferences, you're doing interviews.
• 1:44:18
  And I'm sure the devil, like you were saying earlier, like the
• 1:44:20
  devil hates you. I mean, he hates any child of
• 1:44:23
  God, right? But he he really probably hates
• 1:44:25
  exorcists. We know from Revelation 12 if
• 1:44:30
  you want to know who he really hates, the scripture tells us he
• 1:44:33
  went off to wage war against the woman and her children.
• 1:44:36
  Those who obey the commands of God and are witness of Jesus
• 1:44:40
  Christ. That's not every Catholic
• 1:44:45
  because not everybody is obeying.
• 1:44:47
  The 70% of the church doesn't go to church, so that's he's not
• 1:44:51
  after them. He's after the ones who are
• 1:44:53
  actually living out their true Christian identity as a disciple
• 1:44:57
  of Jesus. And the woman and her children
• 1:45:00
  is Mary. Or is it any what in that in
• 1:45:04
  Revelation? Is Mary and we're the children.
• 1:45:07
  That's it. Discipline is very important.
• 1:45:13
  So spiritually, you know, I get up every morning at 4:30, I'm in
• 1:45:17
  the church at 5:30 and I have a holy hour that goes till 7:00
• 1:45:23
  and then I go in the confessional and the holy hour
• 1:45:25
  continues for the public till 8. Benediction at 7:45.
• 1:45:29
  Mass confession is in there. That's every day but Sunday
• 1:45:34
  because Sunday is just a different day because of the
• 1:45:36
  schedule with the, the Sunday Masses.
• 1:45:38
  And now that's important. So like I started that when I
• 1:45:43
  was in Boston. The priest up there taught me
• 1:45:45
  that the holy hour, this is just for anybody, not for priests, is
• 1:45:50
  so critical to engage God in a unique personal way.
• 1:45:56
  That's, you know, not the mass. The Mass is the greatest that
• 1:45:59
  happens on earth, and yet people leave Mass and are having fights
• 1:46:03
  in the parking lot. So like, what is that about?
• 1:46:06
  No, the deep conversion is happening in the contemplative
• 1:46:09
  private prayer time with the Lord where he's refashioning our
• 1:46:12
  hearts and turning us into the disciples he wanted us to be,
• 1:46:16
  making us Saints. And so that's really important.
• 1:46:19
  And some people say, I have no time for that.
• 1:46:21
  Well, everybody has 24 hours in a day.
• 1:46:23
  The, the Holy Father, the President of United States, you,
• 1:46:27
  me, everybody, it's, it's where you put your priorities is what
• 1:46:31
  you're going to do. And so if you really think it's
• 1:46:34
  important, which I think it is, you're going to do it, make time
• 1:46:37
  for it. And if you can't get to a
• 1:46:39
  church, maybe you don't live near a church.
• 1:46:40
  It's still, you can still do that in the privacy of your own
• 1:46:43
  home. Just shut the door, keep the
• 1:46:45
  phone away and, and make time for prayer and for speaking to
• 1:46:49
  the Lord and asking him to speak back because it, it makes a big
• 1:46:53
  difference. It, it literally changes you.
• 1:46:55
  Now, if you get before the Eucharist, all the better
• 1:46:57
  because it's like going to the beach.
• 1:46:59
  You may not feel the sun, but that evening when you sit down
• 1:47:02
  for dinner and you're bright red or tan, you realize something
• 1:47:06
  was happening there. I didn't even perceive it.
• 1:47:09
  And when we sit before the sun, the SON, the same things
• 1:47:12
  happening. Some people say I just feel like
• 1:47:14
  nothing's happening. It doesn't matter what you think
• 1:47:18
  or feel. It's what actually is happening,
• 1:47:20
  which he's transforming, not just you.
• 1:47:23
  I believe he told Saint John Vianney and every holy hour
• 1:47:26
  where we sit with the Lord before his eucharistic presence,
• 1:47:29
  he sends out graces to every person on the planet.
• 1:47:33
  Could you imagine profound right.
• 1:47:37
  Whether they're received or not is another story, but he they're
• 1:47:39
  being sent out and and something is happening that we can't
• 1:47:42
  perceive. So that's this and the rosary is
• 1:47:46
  non negotiable. If you're not praying your
• 1:47:48
  rosary every day, you're failing in some way of your full
• 1:47:53
  potential. Because Our Lady said for those
• 1:47:57
  who pray the rosary, she will protect.
• 1:47:59
  But she's not just talking, you know, physically.
• 1:48:01
  She's talking about protecting their place in heaven.
• 1:48:06
  When I heard that years ago, I was just like, you know, I don't
• 1:48:09
  have anything against the rosary.
• 1:48:11
  But like, why the why? Why not the Mass?
• 1:48:13
  Why not adoration? Why not?
• 1:48:16
  There's so many things. What why, why is it the rosary?
• 1:48:19
  And then COVID happened and it, it blew my like that came back
• 1:48:24
  to me like 100 lbs of bricks on my head.
• 1:48:28
  This is something you can do even when you have nothing.
• 1:48:31
  Everything's taken from you. You can even be in prison and
• 1:48:34
  you can still pray the rosary. And I think that was the
• 1:48:37
  foresight because, you know, heaven knows what's coming.
• 1:48:42
  And it made sense to me. I go this is something
• 1:48:44
  universally that everybody can do in any state of life,
• 1:48:47
  wherever they are, no matter what's happening to them, nobody
• 1:48:50
  can take it away. Made sense though.
• 1:48:54
  When we first sat down, father, we had a conversation about how
• 1:48:59
  you know your life is. There were a lot of weird
• 1:49:02
  things, not weird things. I don't want to over
• 1:49:03
  spiritualize it, but they were just like, you know, some clacks
• 1:49:07
  and clanks and noises and, you know, annoyances, you know,
• 1:49:11
  during our interview and against our studio isn't perfect.
• 1:49:13
  We have that. We've had that before,
• 1:49:15
  obviously, but there was it was kind of a lot of it.
• 1:49:17
  So you're kind of joking. Oh, you know, you're like, this
• 1:49:19
  is life, You know, wherever you go, you're, you got sometimes a
• 1:49:23
  unusual amount of annoyance. Interference.
• 1:49:26
  Interference. How do you tell if something is
• 1:49:29
  interference for you? I don't know if you maybe dwell
• 1:49:33
  even too much on it. You just kind of smooth sailing,
• 1:49:35
  keep going regardless of what it gets thrown at you.
• 1:49:37
  But you know, do you think the devil does throw like random
• 1:49:41
  annoying frustrations at you just to strip you up?
• 1:49:45
  I think everybody, and for a lot of people, they take the bait
• 1:49:48
  and they get frustrated, angry and wind up cursing or flipping
• 1:49:51
  somebody off or rant and rave. I'm at the point now where I'm
• 1:49:55
  just like, Lord, I'm here to serve you.
• 1:49:59
  I came to do this. Let it be.
• 1:50:02
  It's, it's all your, it's for you.
• 1:50:05
  So you get to choose. You're going to let him continue
• 1:50:07
  behaving like a spoiled brat? Or can we just do this and get
• 1:50:11
  it done? Occasionally I do take authority
• 1:50:13
  over some spirits. I learned this with my mother,
• 1:50:17
  very holy woman. And whenever she would be typing
• 1:50:21
  up some kind of a prayer protocol or a teaching she would
• 1:50:26
  give at a prayer group, her computer would jam up and she
• 1:50:29
  would call me, you know, 700 miles away.
• 1:50:33
  My computer's jammed you. What do I do?
• 1:50:36
  And I go, Mom, you have children that live 10 miles from you.
• 1:50:40
  Why are you calling me? It's go.
• 1:50:43
  I don't know, because you always seem to know what to do.
• 1:50:45
  And I go, I would go through the normal reboot, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:50:48
  And then one day I said, did you take?
• 1:50:50
  It's always some prayerful things.
• 1:50:51
  You never call me because I'm trying to print out a recipe.
• 1:50:54
  What Take authority of the Christian, bind all spirits in
• 1:50:57
  Jesus name, a blockage in games and see what happens.
• 1:50:59
  And she would do it and the thing would open up and print.
• 1:51:03
  And then she called me a month later saying probably go, did
• 1:51:05
  you take authority over those spirits?
• 1:51:06
  You go, oh, I didn't do it. I go, go ahead and do it.
• 1:51:09
  And she would do it and they would print and I would say, I
• 1:51:12
  think God's trying to teach you here and me too, because I'm in
• 1:51:15
  on it. And that stuff is real.
• 1:51:18
  And when you see it and it and it actually works after you take
• 1:51:21
  the authority it, it's a big wake up call.
• 1:51:24
  Like this is real. The power is real.
• 1:51:26
  And, and this could be like a special, like the seemingly
• 1:51:30
  extra obstacles when you're trying to like make it to Mass,
• 1:51:33
  do your prayer or do something that you believe God's calling
• 1:51:36
  you to do. Or even something as simple as
• 1:51:38
  being. If you have a wildly outrageous
• 1:51:40
  series of events that just come out of nowhere and you have to
• 1:51:44
  always tested against like is this normal or not?
• 1:51:48
  And if if your computer is only jamming when you're printing
• 1:51:50
  something holy, you have to start realizing it doesn't do
• 1:51:54
  this for recipes or pictures of the kids.
• 1:51:57
  It's only doing it for this stuff, then you should do the
• 1:52:00
  prayer. Similarly in life, sometimes I
• 1:52:04
  don't even do the deliverance prayers.
• 1:52:05
  I just say let there be light. I've been in situations where I
• 1:52:09
  see things are like barreling out of control and people are
• 1:52:13
  getting like crazy, you know, even in not even church stuff,
• 1:52:16
  just out in the world and I'm just like, let there be light
• 1:52:19
  and everything goes and I just walk away.
• 1:52:25
  This God promised his word is a power.
• 1:52:29
  It's him, it's Jesus. So it's there for you to to it's
• 1:52:35
  a weapon. You can pick it up and use it or
• 1:52:37
  you can leave it at holstered. It's up to you.
• 1:52:40
  Father, you've been extremely generous with your time.
• 1:52:43
  Can I ask you one more question? One more question, OK.
• 1:52:48
  Is there a story you can share? You've shared a few of them in
• 1:52:51
  this interview, but is there another story you can share with
• 1:52:54
  us of someone? And you mentioned our Land of
• 1:52:57
  Guadalupe, that story, which was amazing, but someone who you saw
• 1:53:01
  them have a conversion because of your work, learning about the
• 1:53:06
  realities of spiritual combat, of the way that God works in
• 1:53:10
  this world. You've said before we sat down
• 1:53:13
  for this interview, you were sharing that you get sometimes
• 1:53:15
  hundreds of emails a week from people talking about, you know,
• 1:53:20
  wanting to meet with you, also sharing about how because of you
• 1:53:23
  and seeing your ministry, they're coming back to faith.
• 1:53:25
  So I know you probably have a lot of stories, but is there a
• 1:53:28
  story that comes to mind that you want to share about a
• 1:53:30
  conversion that you've seen or? I'll just tell you this is even
• 1:53:35
  better than one story. Like there's a work of the Holy
• 1:53:37
  Spirit happening right now that I've never seen before, where
• 1:53:42
  there's just random people all over the country.
• 1:53:46
  I would say even over the world. I had somebody that they just
• 1:53:49
  this past week call from Sweden saying can I fly in so you can
• 1:53:52
  pray with me? And I was like, no, please don't
• 1:53:55
  waste your money like that. But this and these are not like
• 1:54:00
  churchgoers. These are not like they're not
• 1:54:03
  practicing Catholics. They're just ordinary people
• 1:54:07
  who've fallen away from whatever faith they had or had none.
• 1:54:10
  And suddenly God is tapping their hearts and they're
• 1:54:13
  responding in grace. And they're seeing it from
• 1:54:15
  media, like a media thing. It's going through social media,
• 1:54:19
  it's going through these podcasts, through the YouTube
• 1:54:22
  interview, the Shawn Ryan's, the Michael Knowles, all of them.
• 1:54:26
  And I actually had to hire someone to go through the daily
• 1:54:31
  emails and put them in buckets of like this is the this is DAS
• 1:54:35
  and you have to respond this quick.
• 1:54:37
  This is parish related. It needs a response by this is
• 1:54:41
  outside our jurisdiction. But I can give them
• 1:54:44
  encouragement and I have some nice words to give those people.
• 1:54:49
  Just some people didn't feel like they were abandoned.
• 1:54:51
  It would be a horrible thing for the Spirit to tap somebody's
• 1:54:54
  heart open to to coming back to God.
• 1:54:56
  And then it gets sidelined because nobody responded to them
• 1:55:00
  and they thought, I guess it wasn't meant to be.
• 1:55:03
  So that's a real thing that's happening.
• 1:55:06
  And so it's hard, you know, I'm, we're all busy, but the end of
• 1:55:12
  the day when people go home and watch TV or do whatever they can
• 1:55:15
  do, a lot of nights I'm just, I'm pulling these buckets of
• 1:55:19
  lists and dropping in information and examination of
• 1:55:25
  consciousness and sending them out to people.
• 1:55:27
  For a while, I was even finding the church closest to them that
• 1:55:30
  they could go to. And I even contacted a few of
• 1:55:33
  the priests to say I'm going to send somebody to you.
• 1:55:36
  And, and that's an interesting too, because one of the priests
• 1:55:40
  I contacted was David Michael Moses.
• 1:55:44
  There was somebody in Houston that wanted to come back to the
• 1:55:45
  church. I didn't know who he was.
• 1:55:50
  He didn't really know who I was. But that the very day I sent the
• 1:55:53
  e-mail and I, I followed up the next day and as I was calling
• 1:55:58
  him, he picks up the phone. He goes, this is so weird.
• 1:56:01
  I'm literally watching your interview for the first time and
• 1:56:05
  you just called me and I said oh hi, nice with.
• 1:56:07
  Knowles or Ryan or which one? I think it was Knowles.
• 1:56:10
  It was about a year. Ago.
• 1:56:11
  Amazing. And I said, can you, can I give
• 1:56:14
  this person over? I want to make sure that the
• 1:56:16
  ball doesn't get dropped. He's like 100% pass him over.
• 1:56:19
  And those are really. And then we became friends and
• 1:56:22
  it was like more than just the pass off.
• 1:56:23
  It was like, I, you know, I got to know him and I enjoy, you
• 1:56:29
  know, emailing him back and forth on things, but God has a
• 1:56:34
  million layers deeper than what we think he's doing.
• 1:56:38
  You know, we could be thinking, I'm just responding to this
• 1:56:40
  person in the process. He's setting up a whole another
• 1:56:43
  thing that he wants to do. And like, just like Our Lady
• 1:56:46
  said, let it be done. If we could all respond to God
• 1:56:49
  that way, just let it be done according to your word.
• 1:56:51
  Lord, I, I am available. Use me and just open the doors
• 1:56:56
  and let me walk through. Like it's a great way to live.
• 1:56:59
  It takes a lot of the pressure off too, because it's like I
• 1:57:01
  don't have to orchestrate anything.
• 1:57:02
  I'm just going to walk through the door you open and I'll do
• 1:57:04
  whatever you want. Just put it together.
• 1:57:07
  Pretty exciting life, right? Yeah.
• 1:57:11
  Yeah. Amazing Father, Thank you.
• 1:57:14
  You're welcome. It was a.
• 1:57:15
  Pleasure, thank you so much. Where can people find or follow
• 1:57:17
  you? Battle Ready Radio Maria USA.
• 1:57:21
  Amazing. Every day, five days a week,
• 1:57:23
  live. And then there's the normal
• 1:57:26
  stuff, the Instagram, the YouTube channel we put up, the
• 1:57:30
  radio interviews that we record with video and get dropped up
• 1:57:34
  there, and the Sunday homilies get put up there too.
• 1:57:36
  So there's plenty out there. And it's not just me, there's
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  I could listen to him preach all day long.
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  I got to check him out. Yeah.
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