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Carla Hall, Ally Brooke, Rasheed Wallace & Vivian Weyll · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. I am your host, Rashan McDonald.
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  Speaker 1: want you to stop tripping over small challenges and prepared
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  Speaker 1: to rise above the bigger obstacles that life will present
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  Speaker 1: to you. My next guest caller, Hall is born in Nashville, Tennessee.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Houston Texans Boys so she's kind south to me.
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  Speaker 1: Calor Hall grew up surrounded by soul food. So did
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  Speaker 1: I six usters, two brothers. Okay. When time came from her,
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  Speaker 1: you know, sold foods all over my house. When the
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  Speaker 1: time came for her to select her career path, she
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  Speaker 1: first opted for a business route. She graduated from Howard
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  Speaker 1: Universities Business School and worked as an accountant for two
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  Speaker 1: years before deciding to switch gears to work as a
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  Speaker 1: runway model. Today, she's a trained chief another major shift
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  Speaker 1: shift who has worked in several professional restaurant kitchens in
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  Speaker 1: and around the Watching DC area, and is an accomplished
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  Speaker 1: television personality and author. She's on the show today to
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  Speaker 1: talk about the Food Networks Holiday Baking Championship. What Caller
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  Speaker 1: Is a Judge is currently airing November through December on
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  Speaker 1: the Food Network, and we also be discussing callers new podcast,
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  Speaker 1: Say Yes There's Weekly that she has launched in mid September.
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  Speaker 1: Now the table is set. Please welcome to money making
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  Speaker 1: Conversations Call a Hall. Hell, Hey, come, I I said
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  Speaker 1: the table? Did did that not set the table? Answer
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  Speaker 1: that the table? I was like, Wow, I saw myself
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  Speaker 1: coming to the double doors that you got all of
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  Speaker 1: the food on the table, and then my seat waited
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  Speaker 1: for me. I was like, wow, no, no, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: the seat was being pulled out for you because you're
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  Speaker 1: a lady. You're all lady, and you're gonna be eased
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  Speaker 1: into the table. And now we're gonna talk about your
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  Speaker 1: life a little bit, what you're doing currently, but more importantly,
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  Speaker 1: you know, on money making conversations, I always talk about
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  Speaker 1: people about not allowing fear to stop your dreams and
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  Speaker 1: then also not being shifted in one direction because you've
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  Speaker 1: told that's where you should go. Because my degree is
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  Speaker 1: in mathematics. So when you said your degree and when
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  Speaker 1: you still worked as an accountant, I worked at IBM
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  Speaker 1: and so but so when I decided to pursue a
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  Speaker 1: career as a stand up comedian, people looked at me like, hood,
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  Speaker 1: that doesn't make any sense to me. So let's talk
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  Speaker 1: about the early years when you went to Howard and
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  Speaker 1: why do you chose to go to Howard? And then
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  Speaker 1: when you went into the freshman world as an account well,
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  Speaker 1: you know a lot of people may or may not
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  Speaker 1: be surprised I accounting wasn't my first choice. I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to do theater. So I, um, I from twelve to seventeen,
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  Speaker 1: I did theater. I thought that's what I was going
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  Speaker 1: to do. And then I didn't get into the one
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  Speaker 1: school that I wanted to go to, which was Boston University.
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  Speaker 1: And at that point, my sister was going to Howard.
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  Speaker 1: One of her friends was going to Howard. And I
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  Speaker 1: was like, all right, I guess I major in accounting
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  Speaker 1: because I liked my accounting teacher, and I will go
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  Speaker 1: to Howard because that's where my sister's going. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: put a lot of thought into it, and um until
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  Speaker 1: later on. I so when I was an accounty and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I don't like this. You know, I
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  Speaker 1: had why didn't like it? You know? And it's so
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  Speaker 1: funny that you asked that because I was saying I
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  Speaker 1: don't like it, but people weren't saying why don't you
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  Speaker 1: like it? They were like, you have a good job.
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  Speaker 1: They weren't even asking me if I liked it. And
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, I can't wake up and do this
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  Speaker 1: until I am forty and beyond. And that was my
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  Speaker 1: biggest fear. I I felt like I was dying creatively.
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  Speaker 1: I felt like I wasn't I was. I was really
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  Speaker 1: down going to work and stressed, and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I felt like, this can't be what my life is
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  Speaker 1: supposed to be about. And um, I was afraid not
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  Speaker 1: of leaving my job, but I was afraid of being
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  Speaker 1: forty and hating my job and becoming like the status
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  Speaker 1: quo person who's just working to get a paycheck. That
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  Speaker 1: was my biggest fear. And and and so the runway
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  Speaker 1: model because you mentioned by theater. You mentioned going to
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  Speaker 1: how would you want to go to Boston University? But
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  Speaker 1: you mentioned nothing about being a model, but you said theater. Yeah. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I did the fashion shows at Howard and if anybody
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  Speaker 1: has been to the homecoming or the uh like the
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  Speaker 1: spring fashion show or the Homecoming fashion show, the fashion
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  Speaker 1: shows were a big thing and I and I did
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  Speaker 1: them at in my senior year at Howard. And so
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  Speaker 1: when I moved to Tampa, Florida and I was working
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  Speaker 1: at Price worda house, Um, you know, I met these
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  Speaker 1: girls who were modeling. They were like, do you model? Like, well,
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  Speaker 1: I've modeled in school. And it became a way to
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  Speaker 1: meet people. So that's what I started doing when I
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  Speaker 1: was in Tampa, Florida. When I said I hated my job.
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  Speaker 1: These girls were moving to Paris. I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: wait a minute, don't leave me here. So I'm not
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  Speaker 1: staying here. So but not in Tampa Um, sorry Tampa Um.
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  Speaker 1: But I decided to leave and that became. That became
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  Speaker 1: my journey of what I knew I didn't want to
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  Speaker 1: do and what I eventually wanted to do. And modeling
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  Speaker 1: wasn't the thing that I wanted to do. It was
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  Speaker 1: a bridge, and so I was open to what was
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  Speaker 1: on the other side. Okay, cool, let's let's track her
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  Speaker 1: life so far. Team. She really wanted to be theory.
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  Speaker 1: Between twelve and seventeen, she went to Howard, her sister
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  Speaker 1: went to Howard. She got a degree in business school
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  Speaker 1: at Howard, and then she got a career and accounting
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  Speaker 1: at Price water House, and she got into modeling. And
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  Speaker 1: then the option of Tampa versus Parish Paris one. Okay, now,
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  Speaker 1: now we're about to make that other shift food because
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  Speaker 1: she hadn't mentioned it at all. I love our storytelling
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  Speaker 1: because you know, you have to do research and call
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  Speaker 1: up because otherwise she's about and she'll make a transition
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  Speaker 1: on you. You go, okay, Okay, Modeling Okay, you see
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  Speaker 1: a theater earlier. Well, you know, I was just hanging
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  Speaker 1: out and just you know, doing they're doing Howard doing
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  Speaker 1: a whole coming. You know, I do modeling here and there.
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  Speaker 1: You know, then without I love talking to gifted people
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  Speaker 1: because gifted people they take everything for granted. Okay, well
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  Speaker 1: what's the problem. I could sing why why? Why shouldn't
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  Speaker 1: have a c I could wrap watch you, I have
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  Speaker 1: a rap out because you're gifted. Okay, So now she
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  Speaker 1: listened to this gifted person Twitter seventeenth theater couldn't get
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  Speaker 1: in Boston, so she getting Howard and how is not
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  Speaker 1: the not the easies school to get into, as well
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  Speaker 1: as in business school, so she didn't go there just
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  Speaker 1: hanging out. She with the business school and how if
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  Speaker 1: anybody knows about HBCUs one of the top colleges, the top,
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  Speaker 1: I would say HBC in the country. Okay. Now, so
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  Speaker 1: now she's in Parish. I guess you know, because she's
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  Speaker 1: telling this story. I'm just interrupting her. She's talking, I
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  Speaker 1: did the food coming. I love you recap. I love
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  Speaker 1: the recap. So the food came in and a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people like it. It's an oxymoron models and food. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: I was there then, and I love the food is
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  Speaker 1: not associated with skinny people. You know, it's a thin
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  Speaker 1: that's what models. You don't think about food. And that's
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You're so funny, your your bio. And
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  Speaker 1: it was so much information being sent to me. I
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  Speaker 1: would like, wow, food, Now she's a model, tell us
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  Speaker 1: a story caller. So when I went there, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: know I had ten words of French. I had one
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  Speaker 1: telephone number of a friend of a friend of a
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  Speaker 1: friend who knew my mom. And so when I got there,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't call her, probably for the first week that
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  Speaker 1: I was there, and um, and I remember going to
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  Speaker 1: a patisseeri and ordering a croissant. I don't mean at
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  Speaker 1: the time, I didn't eat ham. And I was like uncle,
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  Speaker 1: uncle sant duvas. We were playing and the woman was like, uh,
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  Speaker 1: croissant day on croissant day, croissant. I'm like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna starve here to be able to like speak
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  Speaker 1: the language to get the food. And so I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: come and so I could say ham, so I could
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  Speaker 1: saying which. So that that was my first entree into Paris,
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  Speaker 1: and I was staying in um a room that it
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  Speaker 1: was a four four story climb up. I couldn't even
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  Speaker 1: stand up. I'm six ft tall. The ceiling was at
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  Speaker 1: an angle, so I couldn't even really stand up in
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  Speaker 1: the uh in the room. But so eventually I met
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  Speaker 1: this I met this woman who was um um, I've
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  Speaker 1: got Ross and Johnson, Oh my god, I'm my really
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  Speaker 1: good friend Rosalin Johnson. And all of the models would
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  Speaker 1: go to this woman's house name Elane Emmons, who is
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  Speaker 1: from Memphis, Tennessee, and she would have these brunches and
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  Speaker 1: it was incredible. It was like the Sunday supper at
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  Speaker 1: my grandmother's house. It was amazing. And all of these
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  Speaker 1: American models, most of them were black. They were making
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  Speaker 1: macaroni and cheese and and if they found the turnip tops,
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  Speaker 1: they would do turn up grains and buffalo wings. And
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  Speaker 1: I was like, what, oh, we we this is all
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  Speaker 1: we had back at all, you know, you know, Sunday summer.
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  Speaker 1: And so they were all talking about when my mother
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  Speaker 1: does macaroni like this, when my mother doesn't like this,
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  Speaker 1: and I realized I had no idea. I had no
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  Speaker 1: idea how the macaroni and cheese was made. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: cook um, and I started going to the American bookstore
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  Speaker 1: and buying cookbooks because I had time and I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to contribute to the Sunday suppers, and so I started
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  Speaker 1: making soups, I started doing quick breads. I was just
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  Speaker 1: buying cookbooks that I just I just kept doing it.
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  Speaker 1: And that became this way that I would thank people
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  Speaker 1: for letting me um live on their couch. Because once
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  Speaker 1: I moved out of them, out of the PENSIONI I
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  Speaker 1: started staying with people and cooking became away. Uh, to
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  Speaker 1: show gratitude. Right. You know Paris, and first of all
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  Speaker 1: was one of my favorite cities. If you ever get
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  Speaker 1: a chance to go to Paris, please go. They have
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  Speaker 1: a large I said, African American community. Uh, there are
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  Speaker 1: a lot, especially during the war, A lot of people
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  Speaker 1: know there. A lot of the black military men stayed
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  Speaker 1: there because they felt that it wasn't a racist environment
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  Speaker 1: that they were living in. And so so if you
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  Speaker 1: go there, it's just a really cool place, great food,
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  Speaker 1: great atmosphere. But more importantly, it fits your personality. Because
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  Speaker 1: I know Paris and because you have a big personality, caller,
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  Speaker 1: and that's a compliment because of the fact that you know.
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  Speaker 1: You know, now I understand the theater background because your
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  Speaker 1: eyes are so lively and so your eyes tell such
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  Speaker 1: a great story when you speak and when you when
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  Speaker 1: when you talk about food, not not kind of understand
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  Speaker 1: who you are a little bit more because I like,
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  Speaker 1: she is so big and she you command the room,
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  Speaker 1: and all that comes from the fact that you know
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  Speaker 1: theater background, modeling, You lived in Paris, and you just
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  Speaker 1: a person who really is loves of food that you
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  Speaker 1: kind of you you're a self taught chef. I'm assuming then, right, Well,
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  Speaker 1: I was self taught up until thirty and then after
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  Speaker 1: having my own um lunch delivery service, which started as
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  Speaker 1: a fluke, and I did that for five years. Then
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  Speaker 1: I went to culinary school. I went to culinary school
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  Speaker 1: at thirty. So again the recap, y'all, okay, we do
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  Speaker 1: a recap on call? Okay, Twitter recapp. She's a beautiful person,
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  Speaker 1: beautiful person, Twitter seventeen theater with the Howard really wanted
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  Speaker 1: to go to Boston, but wound up going to Holler
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  Speaker 1: because her system went there, you know, did some some
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  Speaker 1: kind of modeling, and so I went through towards some
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  Speaker 1: kind of modeling in how university, went down to camp.
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  Speaker 1: Has some friends who are modeling. They wanted to go
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  Speaker 1: to Paris. She said, hey, you not leave me across Waterhoff.
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  Speaker 1: I want to follow you all the Paris with the
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  Speaker 1: Paris hung out. We're doing very successful jobs on the
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  Speaker 1: run road. But she's six ft tall. In the room
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  Speaker 1: she lived there, she had to walk around his angle
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  Speaker 1: because she's angle because she was too tall. So she
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  Speaker 1: moved she was she moved out, and she's living on sofa.
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  Speaker 1: So she learned how to cook from a cookbook. Then
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  Speaker 1: the thirty she made another transition culinary school. Now she's
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  Speaker 1: officially a chef in the way because she's learned, she
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  Speaker 1: has degrees. She she can tell people like me, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not an official. I can just cook, I can just bait,
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  Speaker 1: but nothing official tied to my name. So now, my friend,
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  Speaker 1: you're coming to my life. On you that's when I
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  Speaker 1: first recognized you as a talent, recognized you as a
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  Speaker 1: person that I love, recognizing you as a person that
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  Speaker 1: when I watch you, I couldn't take my eyes off
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  Speaker 1: of you. So now we're moving even fast forward. And
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  Speaker 1: I actually met you at the Circle of Sisters in
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  Speaker 1: New York City. I was up there. Yeah, you use
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  Speaker 1: up there doing you know, use on the big stage,
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  Speaker 1: because you'll start the stars get the big stage. You know.
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  Speaker 1: I'm in the back room, Sean. Over here. I got
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  Speaker 1: some sweeper tato pies over here, if y'all want to
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  Speaker 1: look at them. I started, don't don't get it Quickted,
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  Speaker 1: I started on the Litta and so so now we
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  Speaker 1: move forward to the Food Network and I'm watching you,
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  Speaker 1: you know, first of all, watching the promos and you
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  Speaker 1: have these we were talking about the Halloween Baking Championship
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  Speaker 1: and before we get to the holiday and holidays starts
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  Speaker 1: on November nine, and on the Food Network. Uh, now
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  Speaker 1: you have all these costumes. Talk about the costumes and
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  Speaker 1: the amount of time it took to prepare for these
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  Speaker 1: different costumes on the holiday. I have to tell you,
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  Speaker 1: Sean that the the team, they the wardrobe, makeup, and hair.
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  Speaker 1: It is so fantastic and they will say, okay, these
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  Speaker 1: are the costumes because they designed the costumes around the
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  Speaker 1: things of the show. But when we get there, uh,
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  Speaker 1: the host and I we have a lot of input
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  Speaker 1: like how to embellish and how to make that costume
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  Speaker 1: our own, and a lot of times it becomes integrating
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  Speaker 1: my glasses and then integrating something about my hair. But
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, they are talented. They are talented. So
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  Speaker 1: this year, because I was the host, I didn't have
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  Speaker 1: the three hours to really get into hair and makeup
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  Speaker 1: in the costume like I normally would. So Jackie mcguito,
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  Speaker 1: who does my makeup, she was having to do my
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  Speaker 1: makeup in like forty five minutes, which was fast for
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  Speaker 1: her and also because of COVID, So we were filming
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  Speaker 1: this in August, which we were one of the first
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  Speaker 1: productions to go back to work post COVID, and so
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  Speaker 1: they didn't want us to be it was like outside
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  Speaker 1: masks shield, you know, with the makeup artists, and so
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  Speaker 1: they didn't want us to be around people so intimately
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  Speaker 1: like we would normally would be. And so that that
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  Speaker 1: also added another element of uh, just speed to the costumes.
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  Speaker 1: But I love I have to tell you that Halloween
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  Speaker 1: Bacon Championship has almost enlightened and made me more excited
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  Speaker 1: about Halloween. But my Halloween it's always in July or August.
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  Speaker 1: And so when we get to October, he's like, what
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  Speaker 1: are you gonna dress up? You? I love you, I
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  Speaker 1: making conversations. I'm your host, Sean McDonald. Well, you know
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  Speaker 1: the thing I love about it. This is what I
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  Speaker 1: loved about the you host in the show. And it
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  Speaker 1: kind of matched your career in the sense, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it was theatrical. You got to be big, you got
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  Speaker 1: the model. You know what I'm saying. You got the model,
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  Speaker 1: and then you have to it was food and and
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  Speaker 1: so it was. It was. It was like a journey
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  Speaker 1: from the age of twelve, going through your through your
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  Speaker 1: mid twenties to you when you with your cold the
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  Speaker 1: school at your age of thirty. This you now that
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  Speaker 1: showed to me is like living your life of what
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  Speaker 1: you when people look back, you're so I loved it,
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: And I know I missed John Hampson. Everybody missed John Hanson.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: But I had so much fun. I was like I
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: was pinching myself every night. I would go back to
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: my room, like I can't believe I get to do this.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: I can't believe I get to do this. I'm having
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: so much fun and I and I just kept saying,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: I hope the audience will accept me having fun this year,
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: you know, because people don't like change. And I get it,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: but I had so much fun. You were fantastic. You
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: were fantastic, and the and the and the thing about
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: it this show is it's a little bit different from
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: the most just a known fact. The most watch videos
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: on social media or food videos, recipe videos. People love
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: food on social media, YouTube channels. They love it. Now
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: watching this show is a little bit different because it's
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: almost craft. You're watching designers. You the food is important,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: but the design and the layout. Now this this, this
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: show came down to three people, Aaron, Renee and so
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: night Tonight and and so I was stunned by the winner.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: You talk to us about that little bit. It's already aired,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: you know, but I was actually stunned by the winner
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: because see what what what I learned about the show,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: It's not about what you've done up to that point.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: It's your final meal. That's what that was about. Take away,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: your final dessert, your final takeing. So so that one
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: was so stunning because I had, you know, I was
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: operating on a you know, on a on a journey.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: I was operating with done this, done this, done this?
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: But here what but what what? She she got it?
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: She got it, But you guys went no. Talk to
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: me about how you guys came to that decision on
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: based on a body of work versus a single dessert.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: You we we don't do a body of work. It's
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: not cumulative. It has to be because you have to
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: be able to give that person. Aaron hadn't really won, right,
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: and so Aaron has to be able to come in
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: and do and have the possibility of winning, just like
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Renee and Tonight. So it has to be that challenge.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you we went back and forth.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: But Tonight's cake, oh so good. It was. It was
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: the kind of cake that when you tasted it, it
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: melted in your mouth and everything, the texture, the flavors,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: it was so perfect. And it is so hard too.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: But then Renee has these beautiful creations. When you look
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: at her work, the upside down cake was been haastic.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: It was fantastic, and so what we were also and
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: then Aaron, Aaron, Aaron had a beautiful cake too, and
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: the layers and the flavors, and I think that Aaron
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: grew so much as a a baker in the show
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: and getting out of his head and really allowing himself
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: to express and to execute design wise what was in
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: his head and matching it with his flavors. But it's
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: a nice cake. It was so delicious. It was, and
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: so one of the things that we that we really
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: like to say to the audience in the day and
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: age of of Instagram where everything is visual, that trust
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: us that we are here tasting it. And I'm not
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: saying that Renee's cake was bad. It wasn't. It was
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: it was it was good. It was good. The nice
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: cake was great. Perfect. That's what That's what That's what
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Stephanie said. Perfect. This is perfect. And so when I
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: mean so that was the standard for Rashan McDonald was stannard.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: But now we started a Holiday Baking Championship which starts
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: November two, which is a money nine pm Eastern, nine
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: pm Pacific, eight eight pm Central. Tell us about that.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: You are a judge, you are a host on the
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: uh the Halloween Baking Championship, on the Holiday Baking Chimp,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: you are a jode. Tell us about what to expect.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Come on now every Monday, y'all, Every Monday. This is
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: my first time actually being on the Holiday Baking Championship.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: This is my first time working with Nancy Puller and
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Duff Goldman and which was fantastic and it's hosted by
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: Jesse Palmer. We had such a great time. I had
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: the best time. First of all with Nancy. I feel
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: like we are the same people. We look completely different,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: but you know she we are twins and it was
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: it was crazy. We it was like a play date
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: first of all, when you want us to have fun,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: because once we're having fun in the background, the fun
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: will continue. Um in the show. Yes, yes, twenty five
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: dollars and let me let me ask you call them
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: by you and baking and judging because you know, I
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: felt a little you know, you're you're you're you're interested.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: You know you want to be fair, but you don't
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: want to be harsh. That's what's my takeaway when I
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: watched these shows with you, because you know, some of
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: these judges can be down right just no whatever, you know,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: but these people have to go home, they have to
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: live a life. And you guys are all stars. You know,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: you guys are the top of the top of the
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: food chain. When you're giving your opinions. So, but I'm
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: I take away from you when I watch you on
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: these shows like you you you listen to what I did,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: judge just say sometimes I'm not saying, this is just
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: what y'all. I'm watching you and you go it's I'm
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: gonna think that was a little too hard. Let me
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: let me just say a little bit different, and and
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: and and give these people some spirit when they go
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: back to the back into the kitchen. Am I reading
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: you right? You are reading me completely right. I mean
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: competed on Top Steve. I've been in their shoes. So
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: because I have been in their shoes, I learned so
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: much from being a competitor, and I learned from the judges.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: And so the one thing that I my takeaway was
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  Speaker 1: I may never be in front of the judges again.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna try to learn as much as I
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: can during this experience. And so as a judge, I
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: want to be constructive. I don't want to break your spirit.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: I want to build you up, but I also want
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: to give you enough to learn so that when you
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: come back, you take my feedback, you add that feedback
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: to your to whatever you're doing, and you come back
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: stronger and better. If this is the last time you
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: see me, then you go home to your business or whatever,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: and you take this feedback to to get better and
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: you do a great job. Dude, I'm talking to call
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: the Hall. You know, we just wrapped up talking about
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: her career, which is ongoing. She's amazing. We talked about
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: the Halloween Baking Championship, but now we're talking about the
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Halloween Holiday Baking Championship, which starts Monday and airs on
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: the Food Network nine pms Eastern, n being Pacific a
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: PM Central. Uh. My man, Jesse Palmer. If you watch
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: ESPN Sports, you always see him on College Highlights. He's
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: the first Bachelor. Uh was on The Bachelor of NFL Quarterback.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: He's a really really great personality. Duff Goldman is also
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: on the show Nancy Fuller and Calor Hall Carlor. When
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: you do these shows, as me as a viewer, what
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: do you what do you want us to take away
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: from it? I know it's entertainment and watching amazing uh
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: competition from a food perspective, What's what's our takeaway? Well,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: one of the things that I try to do for
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: the home bakers and people who do who wants to
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: listen to us and also get feedback and what they
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: could do at home. I try to describe not only
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: what I am chasting and the flavors that I'm tasting,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: so that they can think of, Oh, I wouldn't I
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: would not have I would never have thought about those
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: flavors going together. I also like to talk about technique
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: so that they can understand some of the techniques that
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: they can use to do some of these creations. I
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: have to tell you though, and back to talking about
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Sinai and Renee and Aaron. In this show, we saw
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: a lot of crazy, delicious I mean delicious, delicious dishes,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: but they were not lookers. I gotta tell you, we
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: saw you. It's gonna be an about face. I gotta
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: tell you, we saw a lot of uh like oh
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: my god that I don't want that, I don't want
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: to eat that in like, oh my gosh, that's delicious.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: We saw a lot of ugly delicious things. Awesome, awesome.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Now I don't I want to talk about someone that
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: think that's dear to your heart. It's your podcast that
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: you launched in mid September. Say yes. And the reason
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: I say that because you know what when I look
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: at the description of it is similar to something. I'm
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: not saying it's a negative of anything. I just know
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: that when you when you meet somebody who has a
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: similar passion, of similar desire to make people uh uplift
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: people with information. And that's what your podcast is all about,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: because it shares and to me the reason it works.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: And that's why I took the time for people who
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: know you only as a chief to hear your story,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: because your story is about pivoting. Your story is about
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: when you see an opportunity, you go forward and you're
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: not and you're not stopping yourself or limiting yourself, and
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: so many people do that and basically that's the story
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: behind while you launch, say yes, correct, correct, So my
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: mantra is say yes, adventure follows them growth And sometimes
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: the hardest thing is to say yes to something that
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: is the unknown, because the unknown is your adventure. And
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: once you go through that that adventure, then you're going
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: to grow and then you move on to the other
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: the next yes. And so what I want people to
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: get out of this podcast is that a lot of celebrities,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: when when you think that my life began on Top
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Chef when my life began on the chew, there were
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: so many other things that happened to me that formed
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  Speaker 1: this person who is on the chew of the person
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: that you see on television, And a lot of times
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: people don't think about that. And so what I hope
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: that people do is look at their lives and look
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  Speaker 1: at the tough times, the times that they're being built
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: for something greater. And if you but you're only going
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: to get to that greatness if you keep pushing forward
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: and saying yes, because we're all here for a reason.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Most people never get to that reason because they are
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: afraid or they're too safe, and they want everything to
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: be really easy. But if you say yes and take
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: a chance on yourself, and if you know that the
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: universe is so much smarter than we are that to
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: put you in a position to grow, then you will
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: up there. You know, she's a chef, she's a TV personality,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Arthur motivational speaker. But more importantly, she's calling Hall because
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: she bet on herself. And when I when I, when
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: I go through her bio, when the interview I've just
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: had with my biggest takeaway is trusting yourself and saying
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: yes because you all know, Carler, we're here the word
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: know a lot more than what we're here the word yes,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: and so we have to push through the nose to
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: get to yes. And that's a testament to who you are.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: And I just want to thank you for coming on
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: money making conversations. You know, I was always a fan
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: and now I'm a bigger fan and I'm gonna support
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: you are with with on my social media. You know,
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: I got like a million followers, I got a fan
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: club or with an eighty thousand fan club members. I'm
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: a post that so I always know what Rashan McDonald.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: My platform is your platform. Okay, oh, thank you. This
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: has been so refreshing. And just to here you're your
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: recap of my life, I'm like, wow, you know what
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: I did? Yes, you did. And and that's what I'm
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: just saying is that you know, just to hear from me,
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: you know, and sometimes people and you know you're I'm
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: telling this is your personality is very similar to mine.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Is that you're not a person who sits around bragging
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: or looking at the trophy and and saying this is
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: what I've done, and you you move on to the
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: next step. And sometimes that's good and bad, because that
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: means you're always competing. You always drive into the next opportunity,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: and you tend to forget your story. And that's why
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: I love that you created this podcast, because you're gonna
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: slow down and you're gonna do exactly what happened to me, Carl.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: You're gonna find out how many people you've affected in
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: such a positive way over the years that it's gonna
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  Speaker 1: bring you to tears sometimes because you are a special
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  Speaker 1: young lady. Don't change, and God has put you on
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: this earth and you're doing the gifts that he gave
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: you to make people's lives better. So don't change. Okay,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: thank you. Can I tell you one quick thing that
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: I said to us to and this is my mother.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: This is how the calls are with my mother. She
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: you think she's saying goodbye, and then she starts over again.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: But I said yes to Sherry Shepherd, but then to
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: do in comedy with Kim Um. I'm gonna Kim Kim Whitley.
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  Speaker 1: So I did. I did a stand up. I thought
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Sharon was inviting me to her show, and I didn't
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: read the text. She was inviting me to actually perform,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: and they were so amazing and warm and and encouraging
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: because when you when you were saying about stand up,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: it is one of the hardest things you could possibly do,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: and you are so vulnerable being on stage by yourself
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: and looking at a bunch of people saying to you
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: make me laugh. Um that that has got to be
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: one of the most character building things ever. So my
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: hat goes off to you. And yes, my friend, my
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: hat goes off to you. And like I said, seres
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Ship a good friend of mine, Kim Witley, I gave
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: her first acting opportunity back on parenthood when I cast
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  Speaker 1: Or as a clown. We always joke about that. So
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: I know the impact that I've had on people's lives,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: and I'll just let you know that. As you go
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: into this podcast, you start to peel back the layers
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: of your life. You're starting to realize the people you
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: impacted at Howard, the people you impacted when you was
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: at Price Walter Hollege, the people you impacted when you
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  Speaker 1: went to Paris, the people you impacted when you were
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  Speaker 1: to calling their school, the people you impacted when you
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  Speaker 1: was at restaurant, the people you impacted who watched you
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: on you, the people you impact on the daily basis
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: when they watch you on repeat of the Food Network
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: or current episodes of the Food Network. You are an
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  Speaker 1: impactful young lady. Don't change your your southern girl. You
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  Speaker 1: You or who you are is built on what people
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  Speaker 1: made you to be, and that's some great parents and
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  Speaker 1: the people who loved you. Don't change. Thank you. This
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  Speaker 1: is really interesting. I just left talking to this guy.
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  Speaker 1: It's cool. Really seriously, thank you good, Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 1: We will talk soon. You know I'm a fan. We
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: talked soon. Okay, call, we'll talk soon. Yes, and tell
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: your staff to give me some videos, some banners so
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: I can promote all your things, especially the podcast. Say yes,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: especially your banners so I can promote so your your
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: your social media. They not become my social media. Okay,
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: it's about It's all about you, girl, It's all about you. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: thank you, all right, big time. We talked soon about calling.
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  Speaker 1: My next guest, Ali Brooks is a native of San Antonio, Texas.
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  Speaker 1: I'm from Houston, Texas, so it's gonna be a good call.
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  Speaker 1: All my calls are great, but when I get a
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  Speaker 1: Texan on the call, like I'm even more special. She's
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: a multi platinum singer, songwriter, dancer, so with Dancing with Stars, actors,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: and author of the newly released memoir which I have read,
• 36:02
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  Speaker 1: than you can imagine. She's a former member of the
• 36:08
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  Speaker 1: when the group was formed during the second season of
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  Speaker 1: the American singing competition The X Factor in twelve. She's
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: not pursuing her solo career. Alis on the show to
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  Speaker 1: talk about the inspiration behind the book Finding Your Harmony,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: and the process of putting this book together, the messages
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: about faith, how positive approach to life and determination she
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: is sharing with her story and being a remote and
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  Speaker 1: being a role model. I'll tell you for young people,
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  Speaker 1: please working to money making conversations. My dear friend, Texan
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Ali Brooks. Hello, an awesome intro. I am so happy
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  Speaker 1: to be on your show today. Thank you, thank you.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: I really appreciate you taking the time to be on
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: the show because you're young people young, but you're talking
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: like an old person in this book, which is a
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: good thing because that means it's a lot of maturity.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: It's a lot of maturity like this said the old spirit.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: You were he was premature born, you know. And and
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: when I was reading the book, and they was saying
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: that the number one fear is the lungs. The lungs camp.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: But your lungs were strong, your strong LANs. So let's
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  Speaker 1: talk about you as an individual, because I always find
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  Speaker 1: out when a young person writes a book, I got
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  Speaker 1: what they're gonna talk about. What they're gonna talk about life? Okay,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: And then but you were a lot of life, starting
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: with you being a PREMI and let's let's talk about that.
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  Speaker 1: And and your parents. Your brother Brandon had already been
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  Speaker 1: born and living his life. I think he was four
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  Speaker 1: years four years older than You're correct, yes, and uh,
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  Speaker 1: And you came out screaming your parents. Uh, and your
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  Speaker 1: san Antonio. So I love the fact that your father
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  Speaker 1: can cook. So tell us about your father, because I
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  Speaker 1: have a daughter. So my daughter, I'm, you know, daddy's girl.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: I got the impression that your father, you know, the
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: dad's great bond relationship father daughter relationships. Tell us about
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: your dad. Oh, my dual, I love my dad. So
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: my to me, my parents are are my everything, and yes,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: so I yeah, so even though I'm I'm super young,
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  Speaker 1: you can tell I've lived a lot of life home.
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  Speaker 1: I've had so much to come my way and I've
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  Speaker 1: learned a lot of lessons. My faith has been tested
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  Speaker 1: but also strengthened in such extraordinary ways, and through me
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  Speaker 1: sharing my story, you know, just like similar to you,
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  Speaker 1: I have a purpose and and plan and just hope
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: to bring inspiration to people, to bring hope to them,
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: to bring um positivity, you know, in such a crazy world. Um,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: but one of my foundations are my my parents and
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: my dad. He's so awesome. He's the life of the party.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: He loves to you know, talk to everyone and be
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: everyone's friends. But he's also such a hard worker and
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: has a heart of old and um, both him and
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  Speaker 1: my mom sacrifice so much for me to live out
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  Speaker 1: my dreams as you as you've read in the book,
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  Speaker 1: and I've overcome so much together. And my dad he
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: can cook. He makes comma see us right there, right
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: there when you say flower tortillas in the book. Now
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: see see My wife and I were getting the arguments
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: all the time because you know, you know, we're we're
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: based in Houston. She loves meal. I can care less
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: about meal. Flower tortillas, don't, girl. I'm telling you when
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: you're talking about he made the best in the world.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: So you kind of made me mad that a little bit,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: because see I love flower tortillas and I'm going, like,
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: what could he be doing? Ali that we're making them
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: the best in the way. It's I just love talk
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: family talk. Can your dad really throw down with the
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: flower tortillas like that? Oh? Yes, you can. I like, seriously,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: he just knows how to make them. He makes them
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  Speaker 1: handmade from scrites. They're the best or sears in the
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: world and aging every time. I'm like, oh, I like
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  Speaker 1: seven or probably can just getting just a lot. You
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  Speaker 1: put the warm off the coal and then you put
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  Speaker 1: butter on. Life changing. Okay, Now can I ask you?
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: Of course, can you cook? Though? I can, so I'm
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: not you paused though, See you paused though. See See
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: that's always strategic. Go through that question. Now, I've been
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: listening for the boldness. You've been bold is entire interview.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: Then I ask you, can you cook you with yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: I could cook. I can, I can throw down. I
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: made I finally learned how to make I FeAs during
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: quarantine and they are so good and not my dad
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: but awesome like more so bake. But I could make pause,
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  Speaker 1: so I can make Okay, let's stop. Let's stop all
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: this right now, because because you just don't even know
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: who you're talking to when you used it, when you
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: say the word bake, I am an award winning baker. Okay,
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: absolutely see, So that's what I'm saying. You doing no
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: homework on your boy here, your boy in love with you?
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: You got. I read your book, I know it backwards
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: and forward. I know your family member, I know about
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: your cat Bobby, I know by everything. But did you
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: thought the word bake? Didn't realize you're coming over in
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: my territory. Territory now totally roasted me right now, absolutely
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: every night because it's a good roast. But I'm just
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: letting you know before you throw out that worried bake,
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: I'll just let your daddy. I'm just let your dad
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: with them flywer tortillas. See what did you just say?
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: I can but just not not not not as good
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: as my daddy though, So you have to realize that
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: you're talking to Rashaun and the award winning baker so
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: you can continue your conversation and brand to your faith
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: ends and everything. But no, you're talking to that. Okay,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: continue with your beautiful interview. You know what you are,
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: so right, I apologize. Wait, I have to make a
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: trip that you can have your well, you know I can.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: I can do anything. I can do. Uh, I can
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: do uh. You know. I'm a Southern guy, so I
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: do the peach cob was the Germans chocolate cakes, that
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: apple turn able, the peach turnovers. I'm a big cheesecake person.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: I'm a big cheesecake person, you know. So I can
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: do the apple stuff, the cheesecake with apple on top,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: with light layered, lined with pecans, and put caramel on top.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: I put cherry strawberry, you know, so cheesecake because you
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: know Texas love cheesecakes. So I got the cheesecakes right
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: there downpat so you can't mess with me on cheesecake.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: And then I throw it out with the apple pies
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: and I throw it out with the peach cob. Was
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: a good, good Southern stuff, and so so I that's
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: where I've come. I come from the southern exer side
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: of the table. Okay, So now I've thrown out my
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: little bity menu. I just threw out about six items.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: My boy can do more because I got an app
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: with eighty recipes. Okay, lets you know that. Okay, now,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: oh my god, Okay, So what's gonna happen is I'm
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: gonna go home and tex this. I'm gonna make a
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: trip to you and you're gonna bait nominal no problem.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: I come out there were you're based in l A.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: I'm making a hopefully so that's cool because I come
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: out there l A. My girl or Kelly Clarkson. Last year,
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: I did an entire Thanksgiving spread for Kelly Clarkson and
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: her staff because I know everybody Alex do the EPs.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: I do all of them, and I did A shocked her.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: She couldn't believe. She wasn't even gonna come over it,
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: and she was I did. I did four turkeys, I
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: did fifteen desserts, all the trimmings, potato salad, peing onion salad,
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: uh sweeper. Yeah. Everything. And we're not talking about those
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: tortio thereto that you're ate in the back of the bus.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: You know, when you was frustrated them too, I would
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: just keep dropping a little nuggets on you. Let you know,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: I read your book when you when you picked up
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: that twenty pounds and you said, you know, in the
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: five ft frame five twenty pounds, really show really, show man.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: You literally deserve a medal for all of the notes
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: you're taking you, my dear wonderful cat Bobby. First of all,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: your book was engaging. Let's let's go, and we're joking around.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: But but I joke around because I'm fascinated by a
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: young mind being able to understand her value and why
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: she had to write this book, because it's inspirational faith,
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: you know, being able to not not be um uh sex,
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: not being convinced that sex has to be the way.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: You're write a passage for womanhood. Because I have a
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: year old daughter. She is just like you. She's saving
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: herself for her marriage. And so I was really I
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: really wanted to let you know that, you know, you know,
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: and like I said, my daughter isn't dort the unique.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: She's not trying to win a medal. It's just here,
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: that's something she's chosen to do and not allowed it
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: to be forced as that's what you have to do.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: That you have to have sex, you have to as
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: to big part of if you want to be a woman,
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about that part, because that's important to young
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: women young men too, because they feel sometimes that's the
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: only way they can gain manhood is by having a
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: relationship like that with a woman. Talk about that, Ali,
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: It's so true, and that's awesome of your daughter's shout
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: out to her. She we're not alone. Um, But for me, yeah,
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: it's true. You know a lot of people feel like
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: they have to do that, um, you know, sometimes to
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: get someone or whatever. And for me, that was something
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: that as you you already know about book, as you've
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: read everything, you probably mem right this. Yes, when I
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: was eighteen, I asked my parents for a true Love
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: Wakes ring, and I just decided to keep that vow
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: on that promise. And again, like I would never judge
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: anybody who's made any different choice, that's just something that
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: I chose to share. And it's awesome to receive so
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: much support and love from people who have made that
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: same decision and people who haven't, you know. Just to
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: be able to own my truth and to be vulnerable
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: with my fans and to have them support me has
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: been so awesome. And I just want to encourage people
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: out there, no matter who you are, no matter how
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: old you are, just to own your own story whatever
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: that means to you, and your own truth, and to
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: to be proud you know of yourself really, and that's
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: what this book is about yourself, being yourself or standing
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: up for who you are in your own personal dreams.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: I'm talking to Ali Brook Farmer actually has a solo
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: career fifth Fifth Harmony, member of Fifth Harmony group Finding
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Your Harmony It which is appropriately named that she has
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: out right now, dream big, half faith and achieved more
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: than you can imagine. When I when when I read
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: that title, and I think about a young lady who
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: along the way, you had your teacher, Miss Meryll, Miss Merrill,
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: and then you had they had the coach, and then
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: you had the coach and had Dana so each one.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: And I always tell people and people I was asking
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: me about my life, they I call those people bumps.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: You know, people come into your life and they just
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: they just feel they need to push you in the
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: direction because you don't see what the gift that you have.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: And and that's why I really I really impressed with
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: you because I would tell people despite all the success
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: I've had in my life up to that point. It
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: wasn't until I was in my fortage that I really
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: appreciate it and understood who I was because the fact
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: that I was riding on those statements alley, you know,
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: right place, right time, you know, knock on wood. You know,
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: all those cliches that had nothing to do with faith,
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: had nothing to do with the talent that God gave you,
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: had nothing to do with the inspiration and your purpose.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: And this book is about you have found your purpose.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: You've always known your purpose, what people had to push you,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: like your teacher, like the coach, like Dana. So let's
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: start with the teacher and how she shaped your life,
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: and then we're gonna go to the coach, and then
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: we're gonna go to Dana, who got you to l A. Okay,
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: let's go through the stamach. Wow. Well, thank you again
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: so much for taking your time to to do the
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: research and to really um grab my book and to
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: cherish each in every moment and character and story. That
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: means the world to me. Sir, I really want to
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: say thank you because no one has done this amount
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: of um research and and and care about my book
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: as you have so God bless you, and I just
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: thank you, sir um. But also yes, so third grade,
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: I was singing in recess and then my teacher just
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: just just just just sing yes like that. I think,
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: don't don't don't tell that I get baked when I
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: can't sing. Okay, you can leave that to me. She
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: changed my life. And she asked my mom if I
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: could sing in chapel, and my mom was like, oh
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: my gosh. Of course she was so excited and flattered,
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: but she didn't really think anything of it until she
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: saw me in chapel and my you know, her and
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: my parents her, my dad were amazed and Mrs Merrill said,
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: you know, you need to nurture her gifts, and um
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: changed my life. If it wasn't for Mrs Merrill, I
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: may not have ever really pursued singing. You know, my
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: parents may not have ever really seen oh, you know,
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: our daughter has a voy um From then I my
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: parents put me into a local organization in San Antonio
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: called Network for Young Artists, and this wonderful man named Coach,
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: another person to change my life. He ran this this
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: uh performing arts program and you had an audition to
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: get in and he welcomed me with open arms. He
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: saw the talent in me. I was super shy at
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: that age, and he encouraged me and pushed me to say, hey,
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: you know what, You're awesome, you have a gift. You
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: can do this, but you have to work on your shyness.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: And he gave me that chance to perform um around
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: my hometown and you know, all over Texas. I went
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: to McAllen and Austin and other other places, and you know, again,
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: Coach gave me that opportunity to truly perform for the
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: very first time. And then it wasn't until I went
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: on the audition years later. Um with my friend. It
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: wasn't even my audition. I went with her to this
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: talent show and she auditioned. I wasn't going to then. Somehow,
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: I crazily enough ended up singing. And uh, an actress
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: named Dana Baron, who was the very first audrey in
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: National Lampoon's Vacation, was there and she pulled me aside,
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: you know she and she was like, listen, I'm not
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: a part of this, uh, this talent show. I'm just
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: filling in. But you moved me, and you brought tears
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: to my eyes. You're you're so incredible. I know that
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: sounds crazy, mom, you know, mom and dad, but I
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: would love to take your daughter to l A and
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: introduced her to all these agents and casting directors. I promised,
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: this is real, legitimate it and then my parents prayed
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: about it, and we're so thankful. And I couldn't believe
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: they were meeting her because they were a fan um.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: And then they said yes, and I, at twelve years old,
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: packed up and went back and forth from San Antonio
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: to Los Angeles to pursue a dream. And Dana Baron
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: got me to l A and that changed my life forever.
• 52:13
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  Speaker 1: It's really it's really the simplest thing in the world
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  Speaker 1: I gotta check you now on the food, not singing,
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  Speaker 1: Don't let the frame fool you. You heard it all.
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  Speaker 1: some butt, No flower, did she go to work? Continue?
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  Speaker 1: That's why you had to come back and texts you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just living. Parents. They were there, Brandon the brother
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: was there, Grandma was there, Grandpaul, Grandpa was there too.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: But it was them doing to molis to a little
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: meeting and put a little pork in between that cornmeal
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: you've you've closed it up. Then you wrap it up
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  Speaker 1: in that little a little sale. Then you're dropping standing
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  Speaker 1: on one end into this pot. You kind of like
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: you're steaming. You steam them and then you pull them
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: out and you put a little salsa on top of
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: green or red, whatever you prefer. Or if you're crazy,
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: you put a little chili on top of them too.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: Some people do that. I don't do that. I don't
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  Speaker 1: do that. I don't do that. I don't want to
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: mess up a good to Molly. That's new challenge. Come on,
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: you weren't ready for this interview, Alick, you weren't really ready.
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know why he puts you on this phone
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: with me. Yeah, yeah, Actually you're having a good time
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: talking to a stranger. That's what you're doing. I think
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: this is stand down interview I've ever done. I am
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  Speaker 1: talking to Ali Brook from San Antonio. Listen up, guys,
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: she's five ft tall. She can sing. But boy, you
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: put a knife in fun in front of her, you're
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: gonna get a beast. And if it's some Tomas Lord
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: had mercy gonna knock you out the way because she's
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: a beautiful person like that. I know, you know, because
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: of the competition. This is what I love about your book.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: What I love about you. See, I knew I was
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: gonna get along good with you because at the very
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: start of her book, you know, she thanks her mom,
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: says she's such a blessing. Then she thanks her dad,
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: and about a few more pages in after she you know,
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: talks about her being a premium didn't she get to
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  Speaker 1: her dad and talks about everything he can cook. He's
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  Speaker 1: the best cooking. That's all I mean, Like it almost
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: turns into it like a cookbook that really does. I
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: was home on that page. I got home. Grab this
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: girl can eat. She loves food. She has a passion.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: She might have a passion for singing, but she loves
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: good food and text mix. I'm gonna tell you something,
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: Ah Blanco, that was your blank blanko? What's her name
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  Speaker 1: of restaurant? Meal for you? You get a medal? You
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: know everything about this book? Yes, I know something I'm
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: tired of. I'm tired of like you know, front, I'm
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: I'm just a stalker. I'm just a stalker. I'm a
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: stalker for talented people who like tom It's flower. Oh
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: my god, you know, you know, let's just get back
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: to this book. And actually we've been talking about the
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: book because she I told him too what she's coming
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: back and forward. It's mentioned in the book to Molly's
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  Speaker 1: for Christmas. That's why I know about that. So that's
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  Speaker 1: why she's laughing. She can't believe I pulled that out.
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  Speaker 1: And when I pulled the restaurant name out, she can't
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: believe I put the restaurant name. That really messed up.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: That messed up really bad. Right there, she said, he
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: knew the name of my favorite restaurant. That is so obscure.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: It's only mentioned one time what he knew about the
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: Dorito's in the back of the bus hen about that
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: you're eating? About that, okay? In twelve How it all started?
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: You know, you didn't want to audition your mom. It's
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: a funny part of this book. Her dad, Dad, he's
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: a great champion. Whenever he came around and he saw
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: an opportunity to get his daughter to the next left,
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: he asked her to sing on the spot. Come on, baby, sing, Alice.
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: Alice said, that made me so mad. My dad and
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  Speaker 1: I sing, girl, let the do God's work. Come on,
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: do God's work. Do God's work. Come on. I'm like, okay, Dad,
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  Speaker 1: I had all these unprepared. I knew what he was
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  Speaker 1: up to. But you know what, you gotta cry the
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: man bad. He got me. I just laughed. That made
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  Speaker 1: me laugh so hard. He said, every time my dad
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  Speaker 1: he did have me sing on the spot. I could
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  Speaker 1: be a Danny's restaurant. He didn't care. Corner. He my
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  Speaker 1: Dad's singer. Let's do the Lord to work through God's
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  Speaker 1: work right in front of everybody. Come on that, come
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: on that right now? Yes, no, no, no, no, no, no, okay,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: let's let's get back to your wonderful book. And that's
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: also in the book. By the way, everything I'm talking
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: about she's laughing so hard, but everything I'm talking about
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: is in this book is an amazing inspirational book. She's
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: laughing so hard. She's never heard anybody, you know, because
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: she's famous. You know, that's some beauty of famous people
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: like and and a lot of people want to interview
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: because they're famous and and and then but they don't
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: do they don't look inside and realize why this person
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: is special. And Ali Brooks Alie Brook, excuse me is
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: an amazing person. Uh kind of keep saying Ali something
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: that once on the apology because a brother inspired her
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: name because of Ali and so that she said he
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: knew that too. Okay, I'm done with him. I'm done
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: with him. Really your heart with I love it that
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: you have permission to be like the Godfather at no
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: I'm gonn tell you, I'm tell you, thank you now.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: I will be read there for you to Like I said, uh, uh,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: this is the thing about what I love about it
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: was it was a sad moment in the book when
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: it comes to uh, one of my all time favorite
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  Speaker 1: singers and that's Selena is tragically murdered at the age
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: of three years old. And was it has been an
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  Speaker 1: inspiration for your career. Reason I know because her to
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: well because at the Euston Livestock Show a Rod video
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  Speaker 1: she said a record because on Sunday Night was Latino
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  Speaker 1: Hispanic night on Sunday night, and it all and it
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  Speaker 1: was always the biggest crowd every year, has always been
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: Sunday night at the Eastern Livestock Show Rodeo. And she
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: came down there and and look great and all get
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: up but she was. She was she was a crossover act.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I loved about. She was crossed because she
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: appealed to me her talents, her graciousness, and let's talk
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: a little bit. Even today in Houston, they had some
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: I think some some uh Selena candles. Uh. They sold
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: out in the hour you know, T shirt, They sell out.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: Any type of memory barrewer is always always sells out
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  Speaker 1: strongly in the uh the community. So she has been
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  Speaker 1: inspiration to you at a young age. She died when
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: she was twenty three years old, and now you've been
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: inspiration now for women today. And I just think that's
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: hand in hand that that you're carrying on her legacy,
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  Speaker 1: not only from from who you are, and also from
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: the fact that because she was born in the area
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: where you're where you're from, and just talking about her
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: as an inspirational person and your message that you're trying
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  Speaker 1: to deliver from this fantastic book that I had such
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: a great time reading finding your Harmony book. Oh my gosh, Well,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: thank you so much for that. That means man more
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: than I could ever say. I just I just loved
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: Felina so much. I have since I was literally in diapers.
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  Speaker 1: And what I loved about her the most was her beautiful,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: just radiant spirit. She shined so much light and love
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: to her friends, to her family. She made people believed
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: that they could shape their dreams. And for me, you know,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: even a young Mexican American little girl, seeing someone who
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: looked like me, who was able to in a way
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: reach her dreams was so beautiful and powerful for me.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: And her voice, her message she was She was a
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: positive role model for so many people. And I can
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: just go on and on about why I love her,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: and again, it's just all about her ordinary spirit. She
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: just shines so bright and it still makes me so sad.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, I know that her legacy
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: is being carried on generation after generation, and that's what
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: I felt. You know, when I was young, I always
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: said I want to honor her wherever I can, and
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: I sing you know, her songs and pay tribute to
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: her whenever I can. And the fact that I can
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: write about her in my book is an honor um
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: and it's it's it's just incredible because recently last year
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: I got to become friends with Suzeki Dania and her family.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: You know, Selena's family, and that was just a highlight
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: of my whole life. Um, but that's my goal, is
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: to just continue to spread her beautiful legacy for as
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: long as I live, because she was that incredible of
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: a human. Well, I've been showing you are incredible. I
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: had a such a fun time. My time is up.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: I don't want to you know, in our relationship is over.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: That's alex Alec. Look, you know you probably need to
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: go well, you know, Los Angeles, so you can't do
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: anything there. But the tomores are in San Antonio and
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: the flood of flower to tears in Antonio. But you
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: can't make something. But the beauty of why I brought
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: you on the show is to let people know beyond singing,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: because a lot of people just see people as a
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: singer for the gift that they know. And I just
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: wanted people to know how fun you are, how relatable
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: you are, and how you have such a tremendous passion
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: to change lives. That's what you get when you read
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: this book. You I I found it at the detail.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: I found the you know that I'm just gonna break
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: it down. You know, she was she was she was
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: a premi Okay, and um, we know the mortality rate
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: on that for girls, they are stronger than boys. It's
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: written in the book. I'm just you know, um, you know,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: she's from a Hispanic community, like I'm from a black community.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people tell us we ain't gonna make it,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: and they tell us who what we can be in
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: the stay in that lane. And her parents didn't do that.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: Her parents didn't believe that, and uh, and and and
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: so and even you know when she when she was
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: blessed to get on the show X Factor and become
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: a part of Fifth Harmony, she realized that wasn't her dream,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: you know, and she living her dream now realized that's
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: so much that it calls her to gain weight, it
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: calls her to to uh as they say, you redirect
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: her pain as you reread her pain to eating and
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: she overcame there. So you have you have a discussion
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: about that in the book, which is relatable to a
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: lot of young people, male and female. And then she
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: talked about you know, going out on faith and going
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: out there and when you go out on faith or
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: you go out there and you're unknown, a lot of
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: people don't because they the unknown is what it is,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: you know, you have to trust yourself. You have to
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: have people around you, and you've done that. Your parents
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: around you, wheels around, your charms around you. You know,
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: all these people have been around you, and I just
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: I wish you much success. Now. I have a home
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: in Houston and my headquarters in Atlanta, Georgia. So if
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: you ever get to Atlanta, I mean a mesta. Right now,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: I'm feeling my very first movie. That's correct. My head
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: is right here in Atlanta, right right in Atlanta. So
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: did Like I said, I've got to get your information
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: and we've got to make them to happen. Because you
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: are so awesome. I'm so blessed to even just talk
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: to you. And the fact that you cherish and value
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: my story and what matters to me and my family
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: and those who who paved the way for me. It's
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: it's it's a real blessing. Sir. Just just thank you
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: from the bottom of my heart for for knowing, um
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: what's important to me and for sharing that with your
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: audience and and understanding my heart. You know, it's not
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: about oh, just a singer. No, it's about the heart
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: and the spirit and the story. So I thank you
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: for for valuing that and we have to keep in
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: stay in touch. So your info. Okay, well let me
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: say goodbye everybody to hold on and we're spreading info
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: after that. Okay, this has been money making conversations with
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: my fantastic guests. Ali Brook. That's Brook. Where to eat
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: eat and finding your harmony. She's fantastic, dream big, have faith,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: which is very important. She's had has had it all
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: in her family is tied to faith. Um, it's amazing
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: to achieve more than you can imagine. That's important part
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: of this conversation because you know, we tend to limit
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: our dreams based on where we come from. And that's
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: what that line is saying, achieved more than you can imagine.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: And if you have faith and you dream big, you
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: can find your own harmony. My next guest I'm happy
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: to have on the phone. Uh. He's Rashid Wallace. He's
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: a Philadelphia Sports Hall of Famer in sixteen year NBA
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: veteran four time NBA All Star. He's a phillip philanthropists, activists,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: high school basketball coach, and co host Alex ga Technical
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: podcast Where is MANBA teammate Buzzy Wells R. She's is
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: dedicated to helping this community and bringing people together. He
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: provides food and resources to underserve communities and cities including Philadelphia, Charlotte,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: during Flint, Detroit, and has been a leading voice into
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: the calling for an ind gun violence, police brutality, and
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: racial injustice. Please work with the money making conversations. Rashid Wallace, Hey,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: thanks for having had a lot of sad. Had nothing
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: to do basketball, just at the basketball at the beginning.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: But after that, man, you're all about the community. Man.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: Tell us about that transition man from the NBA to
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: be a person that has a voice. There's not tied.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: You know, you always be known with sports, you always
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: as part of your brand. But you know the step
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: out there you can use six ft eleven almost seven
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: feet tall, So you're always gonna make an interest in
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: any room that you enter. But but your brand of
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: what you're trying to be known for, now, what is it? Yeah? Um,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: just just being a good person to sum it up,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: you know, I just I just try to be me.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: You do what I can do, um the most highest.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: Put me in a position where I can help others. Um.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: As you mentioned on your intro, you know, different people
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: have different different signs of success. And it's just a
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: majority of people base their success, like you said, off
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: of money, but I don't. I don't base my success
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: off of money, because hey, just as fast as they
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: coming can go to me. I I look at what what?
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: What am I going to leave behind? What am I
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: here for? What am I doing now? While I'm here?
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: To me, that's my success. You know. I could just
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: be sitting at home in couch Pertato, you know, retire,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: but I choose not to. I choose to be out
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: there in the streets, in in the midst of it
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: all to try to get to get life right, to
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: get things right in our community, for our people, to
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: make it better, you know, being And it's really interesting
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: because you can't avoid who you are. You're nearly seven
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: feet talk, so no matter where you go, you're gonna
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: gain attention when you come in there. You're a good
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: looking guy, you're tall, you dress right, and so with
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: that attention, you can't and a vaud who what you've
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: been or what you're trying to accomplish in life. And
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: so when you talk about just right, money can't go. Man.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: Two thousand people found that out the stock market crash,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: and that money when left, right, and out of everybody's pods.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: And so that is a big old signal. And so
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: when I see that you all over the country caring
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: about different locations and places of needs, how does that
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: exactly work? Do you have a staff, do you just
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: you're watching television, you just have an urge to contribute?
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: How does that work with you? With your with your organization, machid,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: it's not even the organization. It is just all from
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: the muffle um. You know, I don't I don't have
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: time to sit back and and get proper clearance to
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: go here and then get this permit and that permit.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: Because by the time those things happen, you know your
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: your cause is lass and people need these resources now,
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: not a couple of months am round when people downtown
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: decided to stamp it and now it's a permit. Okay,
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: we could do it. No they don't. They need to
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: help now. And that's that's always been the thing, is,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: you know, just trying to trying to do what I
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: could do. I've seen it growing up in my neighborhood.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: I got by, I guess you could say my community love.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: I got from my babysitter when I was a young fella.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: My babysitter was block casting, and so being that block captain,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: she was responsible for how to block Look, you know
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: all the all the other homes, you know, the front houses,
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: and you know how everything looks. And to me seeing
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: that growing up was like okay, dad, Mr Core. She
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: she really into you know, into her neighbors and this
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  Speaker 1: and that. And then it just went on from there,
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  Speaker 1: you know, just showing different love and doing and doing
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  Speaker 1: this and doing that. So I mean, I get a
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  Speaker 1: joy out of it. Man, It's you know, I spent
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  Speaker 1: my birthday up in Flint, Um a couple of weeks ago.
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  Speaker 1: My birthday was on the seven Team. I spent my
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: birthday in Flint passing out resources to the people that
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: needed it. Man. And and to me, that was my
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: birthday present. You know when I knocked on them doors,
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  Speaker 1: you know, me and me and the other brothers and
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: sisters that were out there, and we're knocking on them
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: doors and we're dropping these packages off. And to see
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: the smile on a lot of these people faces, like
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: like Yo, that's that's it for me. That's that's that's
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: what I do it for. I don't do it for
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: no recognition. I could care less about the TV camera
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: being out there or whatever. No, do it for the people? Well,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: you know, so would you? Would you being there tell
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: us my listeners and sometimes in some situation viewers what
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: what is going on in Flint right now? He was
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: up there passing out care packages. So there's feel a
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: need to be doing that. So what exactly from from
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: a social standpoint, political standpard, what are they doing for
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: those people up there? Well, everyone thinks that it's settled
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: because the state of Michigan gave the residents to Flint
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: six hundred million dollars. But that's that's not a lot
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: of money because breaking it down, it's only gonna come
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: out to something about I think liked hundred per person
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: who was affected by this. And then you have to
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: prove that you lived in this community or you know,
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: through doctor's notes or whatever. I guess that you have, uh,
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: you know, these illnesses from the lead being in the water,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: So you pretty much got to prove it to me.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: I see it all. I see, I see the kids
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: up there, you know, when it first happened, I'm up
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: there in the community, and I really wish I still
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: had the picture. I know, my cousin Mike. But we
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: we took samples of the water, like, man, this this
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: water was sober. Just imagine if you lived out in
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: the field, right it's a big rain storm and you
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: went out there and you got some mud from the
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: mud hole and you put it all in the bottle
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: on that and that whole muddy water. That's how this
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: was up in Flint. And this is a yes, this
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: is a capactrophe, like it wasn't allowed. When you saw
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: pictures of this contaminated water looking lime green and you
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: know do do brown and all that, that was real.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: And this is what they're trying to tell the people
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: that you gotta bathe in, you gotta drink it, you know,
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: just taking out our kids the elementary scores, cooking, you
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: know every day like we take we take it for
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: granted how much we use water every day. You know,
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: when you wake up, what's the first thing you do,
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: you know, you take your shower, bright teeth and all that.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: Right right then, as you just mentioned water for your cooking,
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: you know, your coffee or your tea, you know, every
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: day and they have about with bottle waters, with gallon
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: bottle waters, you know, and you gotta heat this up.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: This is how you gotta watch and watch it up
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: taking bird bass, you know. And it's just a certain
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: area in Flint now. So so you know, I'm kind
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: of tapping to your emotions because I know you always
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: in the NBA, You's always show me you an emotional guy.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: And you're seeing this because a lot of this stuff
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: is out of your hands. You know, you can't do
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: anything or so you can go up there and you
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: can passer that, but you know, this is only lack
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: of like they say, a band band aide over a gunshot. Really,
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: that's all it is. And so how do you how
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: does do you want away from that? And and how
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: do you maintain some degree of I just wanted to
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: punch somebody in the face for being stupid because they
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: see the same thing you see and they have the
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: power to correct that problem. Yeah, in fact, but the
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: people that they have the power to correct the problem
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: are dragging their feet. You know why because them, their
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: family and loved ones don't live in this area here.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: It is like like it's it's one specific area where
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: we go to and Flint where it's uh, it's a
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: majority of elderly people living. So you know, of course
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: they can't get out there to that grocery store. You know,
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: no matter if they got younger people in their family
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: or not, you might might not be able to get
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: out there. Or you know, you live, you and your husband,
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: or you and your wife. You know, y'all live. Everybody
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: out there. That takes y'all, you know, some time to
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: be able to go out and do things. Well, that's
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: why we're here, you know, and we we I don't
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: have no problem with going door to door, you know,
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: because it's it's first, it's all the peaceful matter. And
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: if the people like the one of the resources boom,
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave them on sentiments oiude of the door.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: It's not it's no problem. You know, I still hope
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: you have a blessed day, right, So it's it's it's
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: all about. It's all about just just as you mentioned,
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: to look on those people's faces when we leave, and
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: for us to say like, yo, we'll be back up
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: in a couple of months. You know, we're gonna get
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: the resources together again, like like they look forward to that.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: It's like almost like you know, a Christmas to some people,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: because it's like through the city, through the state. They
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: don't care about this, but we gotta let them know. Hey,
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: look y'ast of our brothers and sisters, we care about y'all.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: We care what's happening to y'all. And that's why we're
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: here now, you know. That's what There's a number of
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: Citi is I miss you know, Clinton is pretty obvious.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: What's gonna Flint, excuse me, pretty obviously going to I
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: met you Philadelphia, Charlotte, Dorham and Detroit as some of
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: the cities that you you went in and underserved communities.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: Can you tell us what you're doing in Philadelphia, what
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: you've been doing, because I like to really the people
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: to hear your story, because you know, man, you're all
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: over the country, you know, and and and and participating
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: and trying to make change. And I know you say, man,
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: I don't care for camera out there or uh, somebody's
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: not that take picture, but I wish they are. I
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: hope they are. I've seen your so for me, I've
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: seen it. Because we need to have this story told
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: because you're you're living it and it needs to be documented.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: And and that's one of the reasons I wanted to
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: bring you on the show. Hey man, I know, I'm
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: a big fan of your NBA cariber Man. What you're
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: doing in the community is amazing, man. And so what
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: do you what was the challenges in Philadelphia? Well, the
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: first thing we're doing, um coming up Octolder sixteen and seventeen,
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: UM the sixteenth, myself U Leonard Stewart, who was the
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: coach at Simon Gratz High School and all the powers
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: to be at Gras High School. We're trying to put together,
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: um a memorial for a former player who got killed
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: to some senseless gun Violet and um. Until we're gonna
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: put a rally together, you know, to drop the guns
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: and get some hugs or you know, any type of
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: sloking like that. But the main catches it's all about peace,
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: you know for us to we're always talking about all
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: the white man is the white man that well guess what, Well,
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: if you help yourself out first, you know, you can't
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: blame them for everything. You can't blame the white man
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: for everything because we do a lot of it to ourselves.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: So if we if we gain that knowledge and and
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: and one thing I'd like to say is positivity is power.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: You know, even though negatively travel faster, everybody spreading it
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: more and saying it more. But guess what, the power
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: of positivity can travel just as fast. All you gotta
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: do is get that right moment with the right people
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: to touch other people. And what we have going on
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: is the drop the guns. In October seventeen, we're going
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: up to Lonnie Young Recreation Center in East Germantown and
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: we'll be stationed there and we're gonna do the same
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: things that we do and Flint and in other place
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: is where we're knocking on door to door, pack not resources.
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  Speaker 1: Sean McDonald. It's hard right here, man, I know it
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• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: you want to be a vorce to end gun violence,
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: police brutality and racial injustice. You know we all know
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: doing the pandemic. They uh. I would tell people that
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: you know I'm older than you, and so I don't
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  Speaker 1: you know the affect that I'm not comfortable when a
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: police officer pulls me over even though i know I've
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: got nothing wrong. That that's not fair, that's not fair,
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: or shed and and and and what happened to George
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  Speaker 1: Floyd kind of ignited not just black people, white people
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: finally kind of salt and you know, it's like a
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: perfect storm pandemic. They're at the house, They're getting to
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  Speaker 1: watch something that everybody kind of knew, their parents knew
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  Speaker 1: for sure. The young people were being shielded by. They
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  Speaker 1: Seeing so many white people march, I like that. That
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  Speaker 1: brings up, That brings joy to my heart. And So
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  Speaker 1: when you're talking about battling or trying to bring a
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  Speaker 1: tenchtion to it, how what what role are you playing
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  Speaker 1: in all that? Rashida just just being there for the people.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: Um As I mentioned, it's not about the cameras or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: If I know I have some celebrity friends, you know,
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  Speaker 1: ex teammates or whatever that can spare their time, well,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't necessarily need money. Like I
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  Speaker 1: tell everybody, they always oh, man, how can I how
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  Speaker 1: can I donate this? And that? I say, Hey, first off,
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not a foundation. I'm not an organization.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: I do this from the muffle. So what you're gonna
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: have to do is I'll let you know the story
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  Speaker 1: that we're using. Like when I was going up to Flint,
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: we used the Walmart that was in Detroit. Everybody who
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: wanted to who couldn't be there to want to chip in,
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  Speaker 1: you know, to get the water and resources. Okay, call
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  Speaker 1: of Walmart is purchased, and then we're putting it on
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: our truck, on one of the pallets on our truck
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: to go up there. So is that way you know
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  Speaker 1: you're getting it right there? It's not. It's not UH
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: have to go through this funnel or that funnel. No,
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: the resources going right there. If you want to buy
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: uh two hundreds worth of baby diapers, then guess what
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: it will be there, two hundreds worth of baby diapers.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: You know, if and a buck about it. You know,
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want to become an organization to
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  Speaker 1: where I have people doubting me, doubting what I'm doing
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: and thinking that their money like, oh man, you know
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: that money ain't doing nothing. They just that's a scam. No,
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: I'm not a scam. You know, I'm right there with it,
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: and it can't be right. You know, it's important that
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: you say that because people do question you, you know.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: But you're a successful person. He's just out here temporary.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: That's why I like what you said. You tell the
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: people you come back, because people don't. They think it's
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: a one off and you are celebrity, your star, and
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: so oh he's down here just to make himself feel
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: good this week. But when you come back, that validates
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: you to the community. It really does. And I've been
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: in that position. I've been in a position with I've
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: spoken just average students that these are one step away
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: from going to jail if they make one more mistake.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: And their biggest cry to me was, now, you ain't
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: gonna come back? Yeah, what You're gonna get up out
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: of here and you know, you know your time's up. Okay,
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: And they get a little half clap, you know, sheet
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: that you and so. But but I had to come
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: back every week before I got them to believe that
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: I cared about them. And that's really hard. And that's
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: why you know what I'm talking to you. You understand
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's like, that's why I understand why
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: you went to high school coaching. I'm sure because you
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: wanted to reach these kids and show that you care.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: Plus you have a your your success story in the
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: sport that they want to play. You went to college
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: and then you proceed into the last an NBA for
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: sixteen years, US an All Star. So so that's really
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: you're an example you're using in your life as an
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: example to them. I'm assuming correct, definitely, because I'm definitely
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: not coaching for the pay. I'll tell you that, Well,
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: you just had the muzzle. Now come over, you said
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: the muzzle. Now you know that that high school basketball.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: It's not I love it, you know, it's I have
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: the sense to mold and guy these young kids into
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: becoming something in their lives. You might not necessarily be
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: a pal athlete, but you would be a professional. Uh.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: This is actually the past season. I had had five fingers,
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: So I don't I can't take credit for the three
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: of them for the simple fact that they were playing football,
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: so they already were. I was just the fact that
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: they're athletic and could play basketball. But I had two
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: guys on it who were seniors and in college, and
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know, it wasn't a big college do whatever,
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: but guess what it was the college to help them
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: advance their life, to get that preparation and That's that's
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: what it's all about. That's what I love. You know.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: It's a hard road, really, that's what Hey, that's why
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: I coach here, absolutely, you know. And like I said,
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: like you said, the thing that to your mantra has
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: always been is not about the money. And so I
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: didn't expect it when I was talking about high school.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't expect you just say they're paying you, because
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: we know that's not the case. We know that you're
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: there to change lives. And when I look at your
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: whole agenda is about changing lives. Now, now you have
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: a podcast and and it's called Let's Get Technical. Um,
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming that's uh tied to some things you you
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: did in your care uh. She since you set the record,
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: you know, because cause I tell everybody about the record.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: You're sett in two thousand and two thousand and one
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: received forty one technical files over a span up eighty games,
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: about one technical file for every two games. What was
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: going through your mind that season? But she, um, I
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: had a lot of things. You don't have them, some
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: family things and you know, just just some of the
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: pressures of just just playing and wanting to win, and
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: you know, playing against great adversaries at that time. Um,
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: it was. It was also a fact of you know that,
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: in my opinion, they tried to control me, and like,
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: I know, I'm a grown man. You're not going to
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: control me. I'm respectable. I'm not gonna do nothing stupid
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: to jeopardize my job. But but damn, let me be me.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do my work. And then you know it
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: all it all came out in the end when you know,
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: I was vindicated through certain actions and you know it's
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: really important, like you know on that with Bondsy Well,
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: so I'm I'm based in Atlanta right now, but I'm
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: from Houston, Texas, So I know Bonds it well ball
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  Speaker 1: state baller. You know when he was ust Rockets and
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: you ranging him up in Portland when he was in Portland,
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: right when he was drafted by the Trail Players, Right,
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  Speaker 1: So did your body immediately just a relationship they kind
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: of like grew out and you guys just because you know,
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: you got traded several times and so did he. How
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: did you has maintained this relationship? Well, it was the
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: first bonds of my rookie. You know, that's that's my
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: guy right there. Absolutely, Um, he was my rookie in Portland.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: We drafted him and when he came, like truth be, so,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know nothing about bonding because at the time,
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: you know, the powers to be that we're in the
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: front office wasn't pretty much sharing who they had ideas
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: of drafting or any of that. They didn't share that
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: with us. So what was fine with me? Hey, I
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: had no problem with it. But when Bonds he first
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: came in there and the first practice that that we had,
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: you know, he was a little timid. He was a
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: little timid because he didn't know quite what to expect
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: because it was all new for him because six months
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: before he was just watching this on TV. Here it
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: is now he's in practice with it. So you know,
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: that really does affect players like that, you know, to
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: come in and see you guys and realize they are
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: on the floor old with you guys. Does it really
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: affect players like that? Oh? Yes, it does. It does.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: It's it's it's everybody gets star struck, especially if it's
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: a player you like. Like when I first came into
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: the league. Man, let me tell you this, Patrick Guillen
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: was my guy, all right, And so I came into
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: the League. Playing against Pat Pat bust my ass. I'm
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: mainly I'm mainly still in all like yo, and I'm
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: playing against Pat ewing be dunking on me. I'm playing
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: against and he hitting the little fade away jump shot.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: I'm like, man, So yeah, we get star struck. But
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: he snapped out of it within the first week though,
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: and once he came around, we've seen he was a dog.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, young fellow, you you're gonna be good on
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: this team coming right now. You know, I'll be remiss
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: to talk about you. You got to play against Michael
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: Jordan's You know, I didn't all. I was just a
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: fan just watching the guy. And dude, give us your
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: impression of playing against this guy and his his abilities
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: and his talents on the basketball court. We're just talking
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: about the basketball court and Michael Jordan's um. I would
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: say he's probably one of the top competitors that I've
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: ever seen and played again, you know, and and and
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: literally he wants to beat every game I'm talking about.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: It could be anything like you guys can be playing
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: pig or horse or like, oh, I bet you that
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: I could throw this this football further than you know,
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: you can't he wants to be. He's that competitive where
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: he wants to beat every game, and that's what that's
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: what drove him, That's what that's what drove him to
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: be the player that he was throughout his career. Because
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the best. You better be ready because
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: I'm coming. I'm gonna be the best. And playing against him,
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: it was the same thing I just mentioned about. Boy.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: I was in all too the first time I played
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: against Mike when I was in Washington, you know, because
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: again I'm I'm watching this man, you know, up an
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: adult contest and in the championships and boom now here,
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: I got a front row seat to see his brother.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: So it was it was definitely fun. But he's a
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: hell of a competitor. Cool. Now, now you've got a
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: hell of a contetitor, competitor on your podcast show. Let's
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: get technical now. We talked a lot of things about
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: the community. What is your podcast show and what is
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: your interview angling what is your approach? What is what
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: is the point of view of your podcast show? Let's
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: get technical with Bondsi Wells Well Bonds and I are
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: our main thing is to get information out there and
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: have fun with it to be different. You know, there
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: are a lot of professional athletes who have their own
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: lane in dealing with podcasts and you know, some YouTube
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: stuff and all of that. But Bonds and Now, of
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: course we're different, two different personalities, but we're gonna let
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: the people know from our point of view. You know,
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: we're there, We're we're there in the community. You know,
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: bondsy dust community work as well up there in Indiana
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: where he lives at um Our Our our whole show
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: is just more than basketball, Yes it is. We're more
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: than even though that's our that was our job. But
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: you know, we want to be known for having some
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: insight on football, boxing, baseball. Uh, you know, a whole
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: lot of social injustice that's going on now. Um, just
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: a lot of things. We touched on every topic. Now
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: the interesting things like now, Bonds as a as a hoot,
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: as they say, my as my mom was. He's a hoot,
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: he's funny, he's entertaining. Uh you know, he's sarcastic. And
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: so their personality is blind because you know, uh, Rush's
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: a little bit more edgier than Bonds. But they're both passionate,
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: but they have different ways to get to the passion.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: And that's why I enjoyed seeing seen a couple of
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: episodes that laugh because of the fact that you know,
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: even in the in the in the booth, there's a
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: hype difference. Okay, in the and it's really cool. But
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: I have you read the book yet, Rushi. I have
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: a couple of children's book Okay, cool. The reason I
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: want to bring up this famous line ball don't lie
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: first time I heard it, and and and the reason
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: I want to close the show talking about that because
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: it's more than just about basketball. When I really broke
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: it down, and and it's about life. Don't lie. It's
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: a boy the effort. And I don't want to get
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: too far into the description because I wanted to be
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: say it out of your boards, out of your tone,
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: out of your language, because of the fact that you
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: know you And when I first heard you said you know,
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: I was like, that's so profound. And then I did
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: by research, I went, wow, this is really applies to
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: corporate America. This doesn't just apply. This apply to education.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: This applies to what the what the what America is
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: going through right now? It doesn't lie, you know, brutality
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: in the COVID and eighteen, the economy, then difference between
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: racial and differences that we have in America. Because the
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: ball don't lie in the end, it tells the truth.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: Tell us how you come up with that phrase, ball
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: don't lie? And tell us if you if you ever
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: write a book for adults, that has to be the
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: title of that book. But let's go talk about ball
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: don't lie because I'm just telling I know you, I
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: know you've talked about it, talking to have talked about
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: it a lot in your life. But it's so profound man,
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: and and it means so much to so many different people.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: When you go to Flint, ball don't lie. It don't
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: lie that that young man dying being shot. Ball don't lie,
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: drop these drugs. But let me say I'm not still
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: in your thunder Rashid. Tell us what ball don't lie?
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: How did it tell? How did it come about? And
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: how did you realize it was a unique phrase? You
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: have to hold on too well? Truthfully, I first heard
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: it on the schoolyards the Philly like basketball um, And
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: it was just something you know, we always said, along
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: with a whole lot of other you know, trash talking
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: right right, So when um it's It's like, okay, say,
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: say you and I are playing right and you try
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: to take me to the basket, but and you think
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: I found you, but we both know I didn't foul.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: You can foul because the game point and you missed
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: the shot, all right, and then so boom, so you
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: get the ball back and you missed the shot, and
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: I get the REBA. Hey that ball don't lie. So
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: come on, and now it's my turn. You know what
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it just carried over to the n
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: b A. And you know, I was mainly saying that
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: when the rest were called the you weat cheesy fouls
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: on me and the guys that go to the style
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: line and they missed that first. Hey, ball don't lie.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: It's karma. It's a basketball guy, right right. That's hot. Man.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: You know I wanted this is the first time we've spoken. Um.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: I hope you keep me in your in your memories
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: about any opportunities if you ever want to do a documentary. Man,
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: ball don't lie documentary, because that's what you're doing right now.
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: For she one thing about my gift. Man, I see stuff, brother,
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: and I see it come to truth. And you are
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: special man. You're special because your story what I need
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: to people see your story. I want your story worry
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: on tape. I want your efforts on tape. I want
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: your blessings that you're sharing with America, no matter what color,
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: on tape because you're out there doing what you say. Man,
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: Ball don't lie, brother, you're the truth. Man. I appreciate that,
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: good brother, for sure. You know I'm just playing my part,
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: doing what I'm supposed to do. You're just coming off
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: the bench. Brother, that's all. Coming off the bench and
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: doing what you gotta do. Or thank you for calling
• 1:36:23
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• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: you're gonna get a call from me, man, because I'm serious. Brother.
• 1:36:29
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• 1:36:31
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  Speaker 1: My next guest is Vivian Wild. Her fine jewelry business
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: was founded on the belief that jewelry should be luxurious.
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  Speaker 1: I love that uxurious. That company, however, came to an
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  Speaker 1: abrupt end following her divorce, and the main producer of
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: the stones was her former husband, who refused to provide
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: the material for her to continue her venture. Thus she
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: had to reinvent herself. Vivian stories about being a single mother,
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: an entrepreneur and bedding on yourself and when you look
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  Speaker 1: at and taking a leap of faith with a plan.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: That's key, right there, leap of faith with a plan
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: and invested every diamond her new fine jewelry venture. She's
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: on the show to tell her story and will motivate
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: us with her story. Please work with the money making conversation.
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  Speaker 1: They're fantastic. Vivian, Wow, thank you so much for having me. Rashan,
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  Speaker 1: it's amazing being here with you today. Well you know,
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  Speaker 1: I really you know in the industry because I have
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: a good friend she's in Arizona. She's in the dining business,
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: and she told me, how, let's go how you know,
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: very few females have uh in the in the jewelry business,
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: especially in the dining business. So we're talking about an
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: industry and you can always correct me from wrong that
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: is male dominated. And because it's male dominated, women who
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: come into the business are find it difficult to break in.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: Is that true? Oh? Yeah, absolutely, it is a very
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: male dominated industry and when you are a woman's people
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: look at you like you're not gonna make it. Um.
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  Speaker 1: It's changing a little bit now with the whole you know,
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  Speaker 1: e commerce online world that's becoming you know, the most
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  Speaker 1: prominent uh jewelry uh market right now because of everything
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: that's going on with the world. Um, so a lot
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: of entrepreneur world. Uh it's entrepreneurial minds. Females are coming
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: in and are able to really get their space in
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: the business. But you're you know, it's really and it
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: kind of it's kind of and I'm glad you're saying
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: that because of technology, because the way e commerce works
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: now and also when we look at what the COVID
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: has done the way it shut down this country, and
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: brick and mortars really had to reinvent themselves and people
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: are now shopping online more than ever. In fact, they
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: entrust the process more than ever. And so with that,
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: with that whole shutdown, how did that affect your approach
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: to business? Did you change your model or did you
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: Like a lot of people are spoken to big corporation
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: and small entrepreneurs, they said they benefited from the COVID shutdown.
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  Speaker 1: That's me definitely, because we never actually had any brick
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  Speaker 1: and motor stores. My my new jewelry line, which Isual,
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: did this. We'll actually launch at the end of last year.
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: So when we launched, COVID was already like kind of
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: taking place, not you know much, but it was already
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: like coming to the States. So everybody already had that concern.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: But when when we decided to UH launch a sale
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: because I was actually going to close the store, the
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: store was going to be closed for good because it
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: wasn't doing well, we launched a fifty fifty percent off
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: discount UH store closing sale, and then the store exploded.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: And I truly believe, I truly believe that the main
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: reason for that was the us of COVID because we
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  Speaker 1: got to at that specific time, there were a lot
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: of people that were stuck at home, and now we're
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: putting this incredible, incredible, sustainable eighteen carrot diamonds jewelry line
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: in front of them, in also the social media and
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: marketing techniques and all of that, and it's dis percent
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: of now and people are like, Okay, I need to
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: buy online anyway. So that's that's what kind of a
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: made us like it. It was, it was it was
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: a life saving time for us. Okay, Vivian, Okay, you
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: sound upbeat, sound like a person who's got good things
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: happening in her life right now. Was it always like this?
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: Was it always just upbeat? What were the struggles? Because
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: when I talk about jewelry, because we said look jurious,
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: which means already that's that's that's an elevated the word,
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  Speaker 1: the word that elevated above another price tag this out there.
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  Speaker 1: So what is your market share? Who are you trying
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: to reach in your market share in your jewelry business? Yeah?
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: So for my jewelry, basically I have a luxury jewelry line,
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: but with very affordable and attainable prices. So when I
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: when I wanted to launch my jewelry line, I wanted
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: to create a line that I would be able to
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  Speaker 1: create everything that I would like to wear. So I'm
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: from Brazil, right. I do not wear sporteen carry goals,
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: So all of my jewelry pieces are made in recycled
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: sustainable eighteen carry goals. I do not wear natural diamonds.
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: I only wear love grown diamonds because of all the
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: conflict that comes with mauch with mine diamonds. So all
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: of my jewelry is made with with love grown diamonds
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: and all of that. So the people that I'm trying
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: to read are women, are the Mordern woman. The women
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: that are conscious about what they wear. They want to
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: they want to pay a fair price, they want to
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: get good quality, they want to get luxury. Um. So
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: my business model when I started this jellery line was
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: like I could create a brand and then I could sell,
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: you know to retail, and then I could go ahead
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: and sell to big wholesale stores. But why should I?
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: Why would I do that? So what what I decided
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: to do was like I'm gonna cut off the middleman
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna sell this amazing jewelry to people directly online.
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: So it's a juristical summer brand. It's affordable and it's luxurious.
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: So I'm looking for the model, the woman. I'm looking
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: for the people that are conscious about quality and their
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: conscious conscious about about how they send their money as well.
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: We know, like you said, crafted from eighteen care gold
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: and ethnically crafted diamonds and gemstones, offers the one to
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: calm jewelry experience designed for the modern one, as she
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: stated earlier, compromising a unique series of collection, each Jason's
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: aired by women of the world, travelers, adventure seekers and dreamers,
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: with each distinct piece corresponding to transcendent, elegant journeys. You know,
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: I make that statement because as a buyer, I'm gonna
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: tell you right now, Vivian, I know nothing about yours,
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: and it scares me when I look at jewelry because
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: I don't have a reference. And I know about clothes.
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: I know my tailor Bay clothes, I know about love
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: the bags, I know by cars, I know by houses.
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: When it comes to jewelry, vibe, you're looking at a
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: big dummy right here, and that most people, How how
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: can you help me too, because I'm serious. I go
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: into jeworldy, I will walk past, I look at the watch.
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: I look when it comes to them, those diamonds and
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: ear rings, and how can you how can you help
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: a guy like me that really doesn't as small as
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: a whip? Now, when it comes to economics, comes to planning,
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: comes to building careers and setting market Campcaigne. When it
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: comes to what you're talking about, I'm like a baby. Yeah, well, um,
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: and that's most people. That was me before I actually
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: got into you. And it's it's one of those things
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: because you know, the diamonds industry is controlled by some
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: really big powerful corporation. I don't want They don't want
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: you to know the boody, you know, they don't want
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: you to know that the bad aspect of it. They
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: only want you to know the diamonds are beautiful and
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: they should spend a lot of money on them. They
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: want you to think the diamonds are rare. They are
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: not rare. Mind, diamonds, they're not rare. That's all a lie.
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: And I thought that as well. I thought that as well. Um,
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: the diamonds industries is basically made by uh phenomenal marketing strategy.
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: But the reality is diamonds are not rare. UH. Gold
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 1: mining destroyed communities UH in a way that you can't
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: even begin to understand. And diamond mining destroys many communities,
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: and and and there's a massive, massive history of slavery
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: that goes with it and child labor, and people just
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: don't know about it because of the marketing strategies and
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 1: also because it's easier not knowing about it. Right. So,
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: when when I launched you I divid Um, even though
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: I already had I had lunch with storms. I was
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: doing amazing with my first jewel Religne, which was the
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 1: one that that you know, I was a business partner
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: with my ex husband. And then when I had to
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: read them myself and create this new jewel Relne that
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: did include diamonds and gold and all of that, I
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: had to dig in deep. I had to educate myself
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: to understand exactly what I was gonna do with my
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: materials and where they were coming from and what kind
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: of practices were being uh used on getting them here
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: to my studio for me to be able to make
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: my jewelry to my clients. And at that point when
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: I dug in I learned how boody and disgusting this right,
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: and it's it's as like it's disgusting. So that's when
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 1: I want. I was like, Okay, if I'm going to
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: do jewelry, I need to find a way to do
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: it the right way. So for example, we have a
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 1: history of you know, gold mining destroying communities and that's
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: that's not just like it Africa, No, that's also here
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: in not a stay. We have like a massive gold
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 1: mine uh in in in Utah that if you if
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: you look it up, it's like communities around it have
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: been devastated and people have been poisoned. It's it's incredible.
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: Um So. I all of our jewelry is made with
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: actual recycled gold. Um so, that is basically uh lowering
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: the need of mining new gold. Um so that that
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: was one way that we found to to help with
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 1: that issue. Then what the what the mind's diamonds? And
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: then you know today there's so much availability of a
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: fine jewelry a line and you go into a lot
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 1: of these stores are very affordable and they're gonna they
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: always have ethical minds diamonds And when they say say that,
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: they basically say, um, they use diamonds to have they
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 1: Kimberley process certification. But basically, when I started learning about
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 1: the Kimberley process, what they do is that they will
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 1: certify a batch of diamonds, and then you really don't
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: know where those diamonds are coming from. You don't know
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: who minded, you don't know how they were minded. You
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: don't know if he was a child, if he was
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 1: an adult. So even though there's a certification that ethical,
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: is it really ethical? It's if there's no way for
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 1: you to know all. So that's when I was like, Okay,
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 1: today the etc. Have said that you cannot call a
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 1: diamond uh natural or unnatural anymore. It's either mind or
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 1: live love grown, because they are the same. If it's
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: a love grown diamonds, it's a it's a diamonds grown
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 1: in a chamber in a in a in a high
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: pressure chamber, exactly like the one created you know on Earth.
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: So so the thing is we have something that's exact
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 1: the same thing. Um, people still don't understand that. It's
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: a challenge actually educating people to understand who have grow
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: diamonds are real diamonds. So why are we using the
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 1: die mean that that that destroy communities, that cure kids,
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 1: that that use child glavery. While are we using those diamonds?
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 1: Why are we using the diamonds that we don't know
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: where they're coming from. So that's where I started working
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: directly with the diamond uh makers. Now you know our
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: grown diamond growers to be able to make our diamonds,
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 1: and with that, we're able to track the diamonds back
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 1: to exactly it's the exact uh beginning. So when it
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 1: was a little a little seed and it goes into
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: a chamber, who is working on that chamber, what's the
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 1: name of that person, How long it took. We know
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 1: everything about the diamonds from from beginning to end, So
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: that gave us a traceability uh process that we really
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: feel comfortable with the products products that we're selling. But
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 1: again I didn't know any of that until I started
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: making it right, so most people don't and that that's
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: one of the biggest challenges in the industry. What we're coming,
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 1: you know, when we're talking about sustainable fine jewelry, because
• 1:53:08
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• 1:53:11
  Speaker 1: So I'm actually very confident that in the next few
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: years we're gonna even go forth further, and in that
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  Speaker 1: know the thing about because a lot of people come
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  Speaker 1: to mind. So I rarely have jewelry people on my
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: show because because I did the backstory and I found
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: a very honest person, a very person who cares about
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: the community, a person who makes impactful gestures about her
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: brand and what she tries to do if success comes away,
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 1: she shares in in for instance, October is Breast Cancer
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: Awareness Month, and you can say off statewide on her
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: website and ten percent of all October sales to the
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: National Breast Cancer Foundation. That's what that's important to me
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  Speaker 1: to say to people because my part of my life
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  Speaker 1: since I was eighteen years old has always been getting back,
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  Speaker 1: has always been tied to uplifting. I don't know why
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  Speaker 1: I did it, Vivie it it was just part of
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  Speaker 1: my DNA, and I feel it's important that we understand
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: that with success it has to be a shared experience.
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: To me, because everybody does not get it, and everybody
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: is not going to be a millionaire. Our thousand. There
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: are a lot of people out there just going to
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 1: struggle all their lives, and so the ones we have
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: figured it out that I figured you're one of those
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 1: people who has figured it out. And I'm not saying
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 1: you Bill Gates, but you figured it out enough to
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: be able to share and be responsible in your goals
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 1: of sharing and being a philanthroper when it comes up
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: philanthropists when it comes to being able to share your
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: wealth talk about the importance of October breast cancer want
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: to your brand and to you well, uh, for me,
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: I have a very personal uh relationship or west with
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: bread cancer because I've had in my life several people
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: that uh I had to struggle with with bread cancer.
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 1: And to me, as as you just mentioned, I mean,
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: there's no point of chasing success in life if when
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  Speaker 1: you find it, you're not going to share with other
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 1: peoples that needed UH. And And for me, like since
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 1: I started my my jewelry line, you know before it
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 1: was the Stormcline Dewlry A knowledge what did you know
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: the first month for the storm Sine Jewelry, we actually
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 1: donated I think like thirty thou dollars to make a
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 1: wish uh, and to help you know, kids the need
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: out there, like and we do it all the time. UM.
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 1: So I have a specific, very specific foundations that are
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 1: very close to my heart. One of them is make
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 1: a Wish uh And every time we do a donation,
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 1: we get a little clique called the Story of the
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 1: Kids that we're able to give that wish, and it's
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: just it just fills my heart, uh that we were
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 1: able to help with with that. Um. The second one
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: is Send You and what they do for kids with
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 1: cancer and critical conditions, there's like I don't even have
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 1: words to explain, um, how grateful I am for what
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: they do. And the third one is when it comes
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: to breast cancer, and we do support several breast cancer foundations,
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 1: this one is the one that we we we picked
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 1: for this year, but we try doing you know, as
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: much as we can. Um. And Yeah, I think that
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: it's important that in October, you know, smaller and bigger
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: brands come together and bring awareness to this issue. And
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 1: it's able to to to to raise enough money to
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 1: help with their research. So maybe possibly one day we
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 1: we can get ahead of it, you know, and find
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 1: the cure and and and help Uh. This woman and
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 1: that have to go through it. And sometimes they are
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 1: able to beat it. Sometimes they're not. And these women
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 1: are mothers, their sisters, they are you know, their daughters,
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 1: and and it could be me and and my sister.
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 1: She was a person who was a victim of breast
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: cancer and a good friend of mine recently was a
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 1: victim of it. And you know, I'm not just saying.
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: I know, I'm a big fan of Vivian. It's just
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 1: stuff I'm talking about because of the fact that you
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 1: it's the fact that you care, the fact that you
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 1: think about other than buying a car or house. That's
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 1: not at the priority list of your everyday thought process.
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 1: It's about running your business, being a powerful mother, and
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 1: being also being able to share your success by offering
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: opportunities for other people to have a good life. And
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: that's what this conversation is about. And you know you've
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 1: been you know, your your story has been sharing Vanity
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 1: Fair and for Forbes, Town and Country, your whole life.
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 1: You know it's in You're the best sustainable jewelry brand
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 1: you can buy. To day when they say that about
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 1: your company, I know it's a big smile come across
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 1: your face, but it also has to be I told you,
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 1: I told you. Yeah, It's like I got good bumps
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 1: right now, because I mean I truly believe that, you know,
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 1: life is a working in progress. I think that we
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 1: never we never stopped growing, right, And uh, you know
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 1: a year ago today, when we were launching this brand,
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 1: Rushan like it was a disaster. We did not sell
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 1: a dime for six months. We were like, literally I
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 1: put a million dollars of my money every time that
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 1: we had. I put a million dollars into this brand.
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 1: And then in six months we had no sales. We
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 1: did we had a massive team, we had a phenomenal team,
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 1: and nothing was happening until one day that I said,
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 1: you know what, I'm just gonna do something else because
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 1: now I you know, I have a million dollars year,
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 1: had I hundred thousand dollars of that, and and I mean,
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 1: I'm a serio entrepreneur, so I've being there several times.
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 1: I know what I have to do to get out
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 1: of the whole. But you know, you still you still,
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 1: you still shake when you get there. And and then
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 1: that's when I opened my my other company. I own
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 1: a financial company as well, ID a financial group and
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 1: then my other other company took off like a rocket,
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 1: and that's when I decided that I was gonna close
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 1: you other Vivien, even though it's my second child. For me,
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 1: it was very hard because I was like, Okay, this
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 1: is not working. I'm gonna close them, gonna put a
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 1: fifty percent off discounts, I'll sell everything out, and then
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 1: I'm going to concentrate on this company of here because
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 1: it's doing really well. And then when the company took off,
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 1: and now to see how amazing it's doing, when we
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 1: really really really hit rock bottom and we thought there
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 1: was no getting back from that, it's truly it gives
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 1: me goose bumps to think that, Um, you know, it's
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 1: all about your mindset, it's about how hard you work,
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 1: it's all about you believing in yourself. And now when
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 1: I get these unbelievable uh you know, brands and media
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 1: and editors writing things like we're the best sustainable brand
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 1: you can buy today, I have no words to explain
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 1: how grateful I am. Because you're saying you started in December, correct,
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 1: we we we did a soft lunch in October um.
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 1: The actual lunch was in December UM. And in it
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 1: was actually around the April that were like, Okay, we're
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 1: closing in and that's and that's when we exploded. And
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 1: so that's the exploded now because whenever I, whenever I
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 1: invite people on the show, I would like to go
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 1: to their websites, because the website tell a story about
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 1: their brands and how they market in there the story
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 1: they're trying to tell about this success. The reason I
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 1: brought up the fact that she says soft launch in
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 1: October December kind of rolled out April frustration set in. Uh,
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 1: this time to go to another direction. Now we're talking
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 1: and celebrating them and and donating the charities. Right now,
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 1: on her website, she has real reviews from real customers.
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 1: Right she said April it really kind of took off.
• 2:02:18
  Speaker 1: She has five hundred and three reviews. Look, did y'all
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 1: hear me? Did y'all? Did y'all hear But I just
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 1: said five hundred and three. This says she's not selling
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  Speaker 1: toilet paper, she's not selling Hamburgers, she's not chelling Chick
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  Speaker 1: fil a wings, she is lux re jewer Line necklaces, rings,
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  Speaker 1: you know, five hundred and three reviews. And the reason
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  Speaker 1: I love it is the fact that you know, like
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  Speaker 1: one of them just three hours ago, one was two
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  Speaker 1: days ago, what was five days ago? So what means
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  Speaker 1: that she is bold enough to tell you when they're
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  Speaker 1: coming in? That's our confidence. She isn't our praying to
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  Speaker 1: let you know, I have a reason to lack about
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  Speaker 1: what I do. I have people who believe in my brain.
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  Speaker 1: They post about my brain. They tell them they are
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  Speaker 1: positive customers. That is really see, there's an openness about
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  Speaker 1: you viving that I just love. Where did they come from? Well,
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  Speaker 1: I really truly believe that we need to be a
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  Speaker 1: transparent in everything in life, right and I and I
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  Speaker 1: think that word of mouth is still the best market
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  Speaker 1: marketing you can have. So for me, and I mean
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  Speaker 1: just so you have an idea that the percentage of
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  Speaker 1: people that actually write reviews after they receive a product
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  Speaker 1: is really only about five The majority of the people
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  Speaker 1: that buy our jewelry don't write reviews. Right now, we're
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  Speaker 1: selling anywhere from five to seven hundred pieces and months
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  Speaker 1: and the majority of those items people are awaiting four
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  Speaker 1: till six weeks, six to eight weeks to receive them
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  Speaker 1: because we can't make them. I know that I'm just
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  Speaker 1: letting you know, and people need to understand what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: In April she was frustrated. So we're talking really May, June, July, August, September,
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  Speaker 1: five hundred and three reviews, roughly a hundred and three
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  Speaker 1: people of a hundred people a month screaming that they
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  Speaker 1: loved this woman, love her jewelry, love what she's doing,
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  Speaker 1: love her brand. That's an incredible number. I know you're
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  Speaker 1: selling seven hundred pieces of a month, but for a
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  Speaker 1: hundred people a month to come back one of them
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  Speaker 1: just three hours ago, three hours ago, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying, talking about how they love this, that is important.
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  Speaker 1: And I just wanted to say that because publicly people
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  Speaker 1: don't do this. People don't people don't expose themselves on that.
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  Speaker 1: You could just go, you know, yelp. I'm talking like
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  Speaker 1: things like yep, this is the same thing here. Ye have.
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  Speaker 1: People go to the restaurant, they don't like it, they
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  Speaker 1: tell you they don't like it, the jenor they love it.
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  Speaker 1: Five hundred and three in less than five months. That's
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  Speaker 1: all I'm just saying. I'm just complimenting you. It's all.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a fan. I'm a fan. I'm a fan conversation.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm a fan. I'm a fan. Yeah, I love
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  Speaker 1: it because it's transparent because people actually get to write
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  Speaker 1: what they feel and then other people and then and
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  Speaker 1: then it's awesome when people actually bles videos and pictures
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  Speaker 1: as well help other people see how they look on
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  Speaker 1: on their hands and their not and everything. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's very important that there is that transparency
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  Speaker 1: factor in there so people understand how the item and
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  Speaker 1: the jewelry is in real life. So so now we're
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  Speaker 1: now we were all we have a level of planing
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  Speaker 1: field with this online business. We e commerce type business.
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  Speaker 1: What's the future of your brand? The future is um,
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  Speaker 1: it's amazing. We are working on a few different things
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  Speaker 1: right now. I actually just got engaged that I'm very excited.
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  Speaker 1: And uh, we were launching an engagement ring collection on
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  Speaker 1: which I I'm reading the very first one of them, um,
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  Speaker 1: which was made by by my brand and dying there.
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  Speaker 1: Uh So we're launching incredible engagement ring collection coming January.
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  Speaker 1: Then we're launching another collection of every janry pieces that
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  Speaker 1: are a bolder heavier as well as well as a
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  Speaker 1: collection with assassires and rubies and and and we're creating
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  Speaker 1: amazing purpose, but women and suppliers that we want to
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  Speaker 1: empower and we want to work with as well as
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  Speaker 1: black owned business because it's it's a very big passion
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  Speaker 1: of mine to work with women and and minorities. I'm
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  Speaker 1: a minority, I'm a Latina, I'm a woman, and I
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  Speaker 1: work very hard and I'm getting where I want to.
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  Speaker 1: So I want to empower as much as I and
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  Speaker 1: amazing people around me that are doing the same. Um So,
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  Speaker 1: so yeah, we have some new collections coming up. We
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  Speaker 1: are working on on on working with some big, big
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  Speaker 1: publications that are gonna be writing and talking about us
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  Speaker 1: as well, and possibly some collaborations with some unbelievable people
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  Speaker 1: that I can't really talk about just yet. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the Future Rights were very excited. Uh. We think two
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  Speaker 1: thousand twenty one is going to be an incredible year.
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  Speaker 1: And right now we're getting ready for to four for holidays,
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  Speaker 1: Christmas and um and I have a feeling that this
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  Speaker 1: Christmas done very different than one last year. Awesome. Awesome,
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  Speaker 1: Hey Vivian, Uh, uh, you know, I'm just a marketer.
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  Speaker 1: I don't I want to post your story on my
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  Speaker 1: social media. I want to post your story Uh, in
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 1: mya newsletter that goes out twice a month, and uh,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna stand put a big den in your
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  Speaker 1: you would sell. But I think it's all about branding.
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  Speaker 1: It's all about people letting people know about your story.
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  Speaker 1: And if you don't mind money making conversation, tell your
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  Speaker 1: story to my my my fan base, because I welcome
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  Speaker 1: your personal who you are and I want to continue
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  Speaker 1: to be a fan. A fan because of the fact
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  Speaker 1: that you're doing more than just luxury jewy lines. You're recycling.
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  Speaker 1: You're concerned about the health of our young people, about
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  Speaker 1: the future of our environment, and that needs to be
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  Speaker 1: be excited. And also, community involvement is about empowering women,
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  Speaker 1: is about empowering people who are less, who don't have voices,
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  Speaker 1: and more importantly, serving part of your success to people
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  Speaker 1: who need it financially. Applause. I love it, Thank you,
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  Speaker 1: thank you you. I would love that. And yes, I
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  Speaker 1: think that if we all put our heads together and
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  Speaker 1: work together to make the world a better place, so
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  Speaker 1: we can do it. You know, one person at a time,
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  Speaker 1: one hands together, you know, two hands together at the time,
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  Speaker 1: and we can really uh make a difference. But we
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  Speaker 1: have to go ahead and do it right. We will
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  Speaker 1: be we will be there. I'm a friend. Please give
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  Speaker 1: me some banners. My newsletter goes on Wednesday. Get some
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  Speaker 1: banners to me and uh so I can put it
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  Speaker 1: in there and uh put on on social media. Thank
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 1: you for taking the time. I know it's I know
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 1: you're gonna through some great times these these days here,
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  Speaker 1: and I want to thank you for blessing me with
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 1: this interview. And I'm a fan Vivian, I'm a fan girl,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a faid. Thank you so much for having me
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  Speaker 1: at any time. You know I'm here. I'm here for you.
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 1: Thank you for having me in your show. And I'm
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 1: blast you being able to be here with me today.
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  Speaker 1: We talked to Okay, more importantly, my promoting promotion will
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  Speaker 1: starts on Wednesday for a video. Okay, look, okay, bye bye,
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  Speaker 1: Sean McDonnell. I'm your host. Thank you, Bo