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- 0:04Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's to show that she
- 0:07Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and
- 0:10Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashaan McDonald. I will know he's given me
- 0:13Speaker 1: advice to many occasions. In incase you didn't notice, I'm
- 0:16Speaker 1: not broke, you know, he'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs
- 0:20Speaker 1: and industry decision makers. It's what he likes to do,
- 0:22Speaker 1: it's what he likes to share. Now it's time to
- 0:25Speaker 1: hear from my man, Rashan McDonald money Making Conversations. Here
- 0:29Speaker 1: we go. Welcome to Money Making Conversations masterclass. I'm your host,
- 0:32Speaker 1: Rashean McDonald. As always should be recognize. I recognize that
- 0:36Speaker 1: you all different definitions and success. I'll talk about that
- 0:38Speaker 1: all the time. There's there's nothing wrong with thinking different,
- 0:41Speaker 1: being different, but it's important that you mac maximize your
- 0:45Speaker 1: effort to be successful. For you, it may be decides
- 0:47Speaker 1: to your paycheck. Mine has inspired people to accomplish their
- 0:50Speaker 1: goals and live their very best life. I always tell
- 0:53Speaker 1: us on every episode of my Guests is Hers it's
- 0:55Speaker 1: many times. Please stop reading other people's success stories and
- 0:58Speaker 1: believe me. She is writing her own right now. Please
- 1:01Speaker 1: always to leave with your gifts. If you leave with
- 1:04Speaker 1: your gifts, then don't let anybody, not even your friends,
- 1:07Speaker 1: family or co workers, stop you from planning or living
- 1:09Speaker 1: your dreams. Those last two statements absolutely epitomizes my next guest.
- 1:15Speaker 1: It's a new year, it's time to start fresh and
- 1:17Speaker 1: most importantly, build your brand. We're going to talk about that.
- 1:20Speaker 1: My guests or Money Making Conversations masterclass is Melody Sharif.
- 1:24Speaker 1: She's to start and produce her owns hit series Love
- 1:27Speaker 1: and Marriage Huntsfield. You know Melodie, She's a successful entrepreneur, homebuilder,
- 1:32Speaker 1: TV personality, slash host, motivational speaker, author and now recording artists.
- 1:37Speaker 1: Within the last year, Melanie just released the latest single Down,
- 1:41Speaker 1: which is charging number one on iTunes. She's also the
- 1:45Speaker 1: founder of the beauty line Seventh Avenue Premier Skincare, which
- 1:49Speaker 1: I've ordered by the way. Now the latest session of
- 1:52Speaker 1: Love and Marriage hunts Fields and right now on the
- 1:55Speaker 1: own network, Melanie discussing the new season of four. Season
- 1:59Speaker 1: four came four years full seasons. I've known you there
- 2:02Speaker 1: hit serious Love and Marriage Huntsfield, being a parent. We're
- 2:05Speaker 1: gonna talk about that her social life. We wanna talk
- 2:07Speaker 1: about that and being a serial entrepreneur, which comes to
- 2:11Speaker 1: the forefraat of all my conversations that I have with
- 2:13Speaker 1: her when she comes on this show. Please welcome to
- 2:16Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass. Melody Chari. How you doing, Melody? Hey? Hey,
- 2:21Speaker 1: Hi everyone, how are you doing? Look at this? Look?
- 2:24Speaker 1: You know, I always enjoy getting a chance to come
- 2:27Speaker 1: and talk with you. Well, you know, because it's been
- 2:29Speaker 1: a journey with us, you know, and throughout that journey,
- 2:32Speaker 1: you know, when I met you, you guys were a
- 2:34Speaker 1: couple and inspiring to get into this lane of television.
- 2:38Speaker 1: But you had aspirations always about what you want, and
- 2:41Speaker 1: that's what I've always loved about. You know when I
- 2:44Speaker 1: always tell people when you are a couple, that doesn't
- 2:47Speaker 1: mean you have to deny your dreams and your aspirations
- 2:50Speaker 1: and your opportunity to be successful. Couple doesn't mean you
- 2:53Speaker 1: have to couple. It means that they're shared opportunities and
- 2:57Speaker 1: one should support the other in the process. But don't
- 3:00Speaker 1: ever deny your dreams when you are married or you're
- 3:02Speaker 1: in a relationship or in a partnership, because it only
- 3:06Speaker 1: works if both people are giving max effort, and it
- 3:09Speaker 1: only works if both people respect each other's aspirations or
- 3:13Speaker 1: dreams and in turn helped support each other getting to
- 3:16Speaker 1: the next level. Talk about your dreams and talk about
- 3:19Speaker 1: so far the journey that you're making. Right now, we're
- 3:21Speaker 1: gonna talk a lot. We're gonna slow this down because
- 3:23Speaker 1: she has a lot to talk about. I feel very
- 3:25Speaker 1: honored to have Melody take since aside of twenty five
- 3:28Speaker 1: minutes of a time to talk about her career and
- 3:30Speaker 1: the future. So where are we at right now, Melody?
- 3:34Speaker 1: You know, I will to painty back off of what
- 3:37Speaker 1: you just stated. I will say that you know, I've always,
- 3:41Speaker 1: you know, loved and enjoyed singing. My first performance was
- 3:44Speaker 1: when I was five, and from there I was always
- 3:48Speaker 1: singing on television, doing padgets talent shows, playing keyboard at
- 3:53Speaker 1: the church and in the prey on the praise and
- 3:55Speaker 1: worship team. And so I've always had a love for
- 3:59Speaker 1: the arts, being in plays right, I've always had a
- 4:02Speaker 1: love for the arts. And so what I am seeing
- 4:05Speaker 1: right now is literally the thing that God gifted me
- 4:08Speaker 1: with that started in my early years. I'm seeing it
- 4:11Speaker 1: come to fruition. I'm seeing me God opening doors for
- 4:16Speaker 1: me in the same arena of arts and entertainment and
- 4:19Speaker 1: me being able to you know, pursue my music career,
- 4:22Speaker 1: acting and hosting, producing, and so for me right now,
- 4:27Speaker 1: I'm in a phase and stage of thankfulness and gratefulness.
- 4:31Speaker 1: I am just super super excited about everything that God
- 4:36Speaker 1: has in store despite the obstacles that I've gone through
- 4:40Speaker 1: and I've experienced. As you mentioned, it is important that
- 4:44Speaker 1: you know when you're a spouse, when you're married to
- 4:47Speaker 1: still support one another in your dreams and you know
- 4:51Speaker 1: your aspirations, which includes as well, making sure that your
- 4:55Speaker 1: mate is in the best place when it comes to
- 4:57Speaker 1: their mental well being their emotional being, because it's something
- 5:01Speaker 1: about what you can do when you are in a
- 5:04Speaker 1: great space mentally and emotionally. We never as you this, Melanie,
- 5:09Speaker 1: because you know when people I always tell people, I
- 5:12Speaker 1: call it multi level or multi tiered levels of income,
- 5:15Speaker 1: multi tiered levels of opportunities. And when I say that,
- 5:18Speaker 1: some people say that we shouldn't stop. Now. I'm sure
- 5:20Speaker 1: some people go, you know, Melani need to go somewhere
- 5:22Speaker 1: and sit down now, she's sanging. Come on now. That's
- 5:25Speaker 1: why it was important that people need to hear that.
- 5:27Speaker 1: This is not something you thought of last week. This
- 5:30Speaker 1: is part of your DNA, part of your life. So
- 5:32Speaker 1: I didn't know you had a skill, a skill outside
- 5:35Speaker 1: of sing. I know you can see, but you go
- 5:37Speaker 1: about that. You know I can get it the keyboard
- 5:39Speaker 1: and do my thing too. So really, I've said this
- 5:42Speaker 1: many times on my show, that you know the eighteen
- 5:46Speaker 1: forty and sixty or a key a key parameters as
- 5:50Speaker 1: far as what you want to do with your life,
- 5:52Speaker 1: because eighteen that's when you're a free spirit. You know,
- 5:54Speaker 1: that's when you want to do all these things and
- 5:56Speaker 1: somewhere alone line in your case, you got married, and
- 5:58Speaker 1: sometimes when you get married, you became a positive the parents,
- 6:02Speaker 1: you support, your husband, and y'all were still doing things together,
- 6:05Speaker 1: but still not the things that you could do. So
- 6:09Speaker 1: right now in your life, am I saying it correctly?
- 6:11Speaker 1: You're now doing the things that you want to do
- 6:14Speaker 1: and can do and should do correctly. Absolutely absolutely. And
- 6:19Speaker 1: it's funny that you give those different age ranges because
- 6:22Speaker 1: I'm thirty six, and so you know, I still have
- 6:25Speaker 1: a few more years to go before I hit forty,
- 6:27Speaker 1: but I'm closer to forty than I am eighteen or thirty,
- 6:30Speaker 1: that's for sure. And you know, many of us have
- 6:34Speaker 1: many talents. You know, we have a story in the
- 6:37Speaker 1: Bible where it talks about where people were giving different talents, right,
- 6:41Speaker 1: and so even sometimes when you know, I've gone on
- 6:44Speaker 1: social media and I've been playing the keyboard while I'm singing,
- 6:48Speaker 1: and people are like, oh my gosh, I didn't know
- 6:49Speaker 1: she knew how to play. You know, we all have talents.
- 6:54Speaker 1: And I feel like in due time and in due season,
- 6:58Speaker 1: you know, those things show their head again and they show, hey,
- 7:01Speaker 1: look this is here. This was instilled in you. This
- 7:05Speaker 1: is a gift that was God given. And so me
- 7:08Speaker 1: walking in my purpose and walking in that and being
- 7:11Speaker 1: you know, using that, you know to help other people,
- 7:14Speaker 1: specifically women who can relate to my music. You know,
- 7:18Speaker 1: for me, that's exactly where I'm supposed to be. Now
- 7:21Speaker 1: now when you talk about your music, because the beauty
- 7:24Speaker 1: of when I say the word beauty, because you're a
- 7:26Speaker 1: beautiful person, and sometimes people will use that against you,
- 7:30Speaker 1: you know, and say that, you know, oh, she's just
- 7:33Speaker 1: getting that because she's attractive. Of she's just getting that.
- 7:36Speaker 1: My whole thing is that I have six sisters, so
- 7:39Speaker 1: I get really sensitive when people start getting into that
- 7:42Speaker 1: that that gender bending about this is why they are successful.
- 7:46Speaker 1: I love the fact that I've seen you grow and
- 7:49Speaker 1: I want to be in a relationship with you the
- 7:51Speaker 1: next twenty years so I can see hopefully the next
- 7:54Speaker 1: end game because I do feel that when I said
- 7:57Speaker 1: the word eighteen and forty, well she's doing it. Everybody
- 8:00Speaker 1: is that A lot of time when people have not
- 8:02Speaker 1: accomplished their dreams or not living their dreams, when they
- 8:05Speaker 1: get the forty, they feel depressed. They feel that they
- 8:07Speaker 1: feel that they can't do anything other than what they're
- 8:10Speaker 1: doing at that time. At forty, they feel that there's
- 8:12Speaker 1: no future. She's said in the word thirty six, she's
- 8:15Speaker 1: four away from forty. But guess what she's now doing.
- 8:18Speaker 1: What she wants to do in her life and can do.
- 8:20Speaker 1: That's important and I really I want to use this
- 8:23Speaker 1: episode of interviewing you as a motivating factor, not only
- 8:26Speaker 1: for your fans, because a lot of people who will
- 8:28Speaker 1: be hearing this interview melody Shari for the first time,
- 8:30Speaker 1: let's write Shari for the first time, will understand she's
- 8:34Speaker 1: an independent thinker and you are a brand now officially
- 8:37Speaker 1: called Melody Shari. Correct, absolutely yes, And you know speaking
- 8:42Speaker 1: of that, you know I spent many years where of
- 8:44Speaker 1: course when I was married, building a brand as this
- 8:47Speaker 1: power couple, power duo in business together and so now
- 8:52Speaker 1: me having to rebrand myself solo, and then of course
- 8:56Speaker 1: after being divorced, going from Melody Hole to Melody Shari.
- 9:00Speaker 1: And I will tell anyone that hard work is definitely
- 9:04Speaker 1: where it's at. Um. You know, you have to have
- 9:07Speaker 1: a strong work ethic with anything that you do. I
- 9:10Speaker 1: literally had a conversation UM yesterday and I told them, yeah,
- 9:14Speaker 1: I actually did my song on Sunday. I went in
- 9:18Speaker 1: the studio, recorded my song Sunday, did the cover shoot
- 9:21Speaker 1: on Tuesday, dropped it on Saturday. And they said, whoa,
- 9:24Speaker 1: you did all that in a week. I said absolutely,
- 9:27Speaker 1: And I went and recorded my other song on that
- 9:29Speaker 1: Wednesday and they were like wow. UM. To say my
- 9:33Speaker 1: work ethic is unmatched, um, that would be an understatement.
- 9:37Speaker 1: I don't look or expect anything to be handed or
- 9:40Speaker 1: given to me, but I believe in working hard and
- 9:44Speaker 1: my mindset is as long as I'm moving, God will
- 9:49Speaker 1: meet me where I need to be meant to make
- 9:50Speaker 1: sure I get to where I'm trying to go. So
- 9:53Speaker 1: I wake up early, three, four o'clock in the morning,
- 9:55Speaker 1: I'm up. Huh, there you go. That's me four thirty
- 9:59Speaker 1: every day, Monday Friday. So for the weekends, absolutely even
- 10:03Speaker 1: for me, even all the weekends. And I utilize every minute,
- 10:06Speaker 1: every second of the day to make sure that I
- 10:09Speaker 1: don't feel like something didn't get handled because I decided to,
- 10:14Speaker 1: you know, not put my all into the day. And
- 10:18Speaker 1: so you have to be willing to make those sacrifices
- 10:21Speaker 1: you have to. But that comes from it being in
- 10:23Speaker 1: your hearts. Right. When something in your heart and it
- 10:27Speaker 1: means a lot to you, you're gonna put in the work,
- 10:30Speaker 1: you know, when you're passionate about it, you're gonna put
- 10:32Speaker 1: in the world. Well, you know, I'm gonna back up
- 10:36Speaker 1: a little bit here your journey and the journey watching
- 10:39Speaker 1: you become who you are today, and believe me, there
- 10:41Speaker 1: is a even brighter future for her. I don't want
- 10:44Speaker 1: to limit like this is her. She's gonna drop a
- 10:46Speaker 1: single drop another single. Her heart, entrepreneurship and her give
- 10:49Speaker 1: back has always been strong. In fact, you've seen it
- 10:52Speaker 1: and some of the episodes of love and marriage Holly
- 10:55Speaker 1: Huntville when she was starting her own podcast type set
- 10:58Speaker 1: up and trying to get her voice out there and
- 11:00Speaker 1: trying to tell everybody her story. And that started with
- 11:03Speaker 1: the masterclasses. And I remember to rashand I'm gonna start
- 11:06Speaker 1: these masterclasses and you start rolling it out on your
- 11:08Speaker 1: Instagram account. Why was there? I think that was the
- 11:12Speaker 1: first foray until you really starting establishing your brand. And
- 11:16Speaker 1: then we're gonna talk about the makeup line. But that
- 11:18Speaker 1: was the first part of stepping out of the entrepreneurs
- 11:21Speaker 1: and out of the entrepreneurship lane as yourself and sharing
- 11:25Speaker 1: your knowledge with other people, especially women correctly, well, yes,
- 11:29Speaker 1: especially women. You know, I've had a situation where I'd
- 11:33Speaker 1: actually been heavily a part of a friend getting into
- 11:38Speaker 1: this industry hall property preservation, and so it was successful,
- 11:42Speaker 1: and you know, there was something in me that says,
- 11:44Speaker 1: you know what, if I can do it once, I
- 11:45Speaker 1: can do it again. And you know, I had this
- 11:48Speaker 1: idea of taking the time to teach others how to
- 11:52Speaker 1: get into into this white male dominated industry and showing
- 11:56Speaker 1: them the way. It's a multibillion dollar industry, so showing
- 11:59Speaker 1: them the way, showing them how they could get another
- 12:02Speaker 1: level of financial freedom and build well. And so I
- 12:05Speaker 1: launched my first class in June of twenty twenty. To date,
- 12:08Speaker 1: I've had over four hundred students who've gone through my course,
- 12:12Speaker 1: mostly African American females. I've had people who've been able
- 12:16Speaker 1: to resign from their nine to fives. I've had people
- 12:19Speaker 1: who are already teaching their sons and their nephews about
- 12:22Speaker 1: the industry to build that generational wealth in that family business.
- 12:26Speaker 1: And so it's been great for me and fulfilling for
- 12:29Speaker 1: me to be quite honest to have my master class
- 12:33Speaker 1: where I am able to pour into others and teach
- 12:36Speaker 1: them the game that honestly helped me to resign, to
- 12:39Speaker 1: be able to resign from teaching in April of twenty eleven. Awesome. Now,
- 12:43Speaker 1: will you go in a little detail exactly what that
- 12:45Speaker 1: those courses are so my listeners and my viewers can
- 12:48Speaker 1: get a clear understanding of how they can be a
- 12:50Speaker 1: part of that and also register. And are is it
- 12:54Speaker 1: just a period where you can join online or it's
- 12:56Speaker 1: it's seasonal. Can you update them a little bit more
- 12:59Speaker 1: with more detail. Absolutely. So. Property preservation is the process
- 13:03Speaker 1: of maintaining for clost properties for banks so when a
- 13:06Speaker 1: property is for a closet on as a property preservation
- 13:09Speaker 1: is you know, you changed the lout, you maintain the lawn,
- 13:11Speaker 1: you clean the property. Any issues that happen, theft, vendalism,
- 13:15Speaker 1: storm fire, you take care of those things for the bank,
- 13:18Speaker 1: and the bank pays shoe. I covered seven states at
- 13:22Speaker 1: one time, so it is a national industry. I've had
- 13:24Speaker 1: students from all over the country, from California to New York,
- 13:27Speaker 1: Okay to Florida. And so what I will say is
- 13:31Speaker 1: that if you are good at project management, this is
- 13:36Speaker 1: definitely an industry that you can get in because what
- 13:39Speaker 1: you're doing is you're managing these different projects, these different
- 13:42Speaker 1: work orders. I actually usually have the class about every
- 13:46Speaker 1: three months. I currently have the most recent class I
- 13:48Speaker 1: just started. We started two weeks ago. It was a
- 13:51Speaker 1: five week program. And if you're interested, of course, follow
- 13:54Speaker 1: me on social media. I always post one I'm having
- 13:57Speaker 1: a class coming up and the websites to register. It's
- 14:01Speaker 1: Masterclass with Melody dot Com. Right, we'll be right back
- 14:04Speaker 1: with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. Now
- 14:12Speaker 1: let's return to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald.
- 14:17Speaker 1: She's doing all this, is still doing love and marriage.
- 14:21Speaker 1: Huntsfield still being a great parent, dealing with a lot
- 14:23Speaker 1: of social media issues out there, personalized, she's building her brand,
- 14:28Speaker 1: she's working, she's focused. Now let's go to the Seventh
- 14:31Speaker 1: Avenue Premier Schemecare. That's the second lane that she brought
- 14:34Speaker 1: into my life. You know, you said, Shane, I work
- 14:37Speaker 1: because up there our relationship is fun. She has, she has,
- 14:40Speaker 1: she had direct message, mean work, what do you think about?
- 14:42Speaker 1: What the right now? I've always been like a mentor
- 14:44Speaker 1: to her. I like to believe I've always been there
- 14:46Speaker 1: to give a positive advice and I've always been there
- 14:49Speaker 1: to uplift her because that's what people need. I'm gonna
- 14:51Speaker 1: just tell you, if you want to win in life,
- 14:53Speaker 1: surround yourself with people who believe and share your journey.
- 14:57Speaker 1: Understand what I'm saying, not participate. They didn't share your journey,
- 15:01Speaker 1: which means they're willing to advise you or physically assist
- 15:04Speaker 1: you in some ways, financially aid you to make sure
- 15:07Speaker 1: your dreams come true because they understand it. So tell
- 15:10Speaker 1: us about Seventh Avenue Premiere Skincare. So at Seventh Avenue
- 15:14Speaker 1: career skincare. I actually grew up on Seventh Avenue, so
- 15:17Speaker 1: that's light it's caused Seventh Avenue as nothing to do
- 15:20Speaker 1: with New York, nothing to do with New York. There's
- 15:24Speaker 1: nothing to do with New York. No, nothing to do
- 15:27Speaker 1: with New York now. And so actually a small town
- 15:31Speaker 1: in Alabama running into Alabama black Bread. But that is
- 15:36Speaker 1: where I started to learn the importance, you know, as
- 15:39Speaker 1: a young girl, the importance of care, taking care of myself,
- 15:42Speaker 1: taking care of my skin, my body. And so that's
- 15:46Speaker 1: why it's named Seventh Avenue Premier Skincare. But I was
- 15:49Speaker 1: blessed to work with, you know, a black female chemist
- 15:53Speaker 1: and formulate my products. I knew I didn't want to
- 15:56Speaker 1: get products from overseas and just throw a label on them,
- 15:59Speaker 1: and I knew that I wanted to include some of
- 16:01Speaker 1: the things that my great grandmother taught me to help
- 16:04Speaker 1: me come back. Py riss rosato, which is a skin
- 16:08Speaker 1: condition that I had growing up. And so it has
- 16:11Speaker 1: been doing phenomenal, been doing phenomenal. Is clean, natural, vegan,
- 16:16Speaker 1: animal cruelty free, and I've already gotten opportunities for it
- 16:20Speaker 1: to go into retail, and so the sales are phenomenal,
- 16:24Speaker 1: the support is phenomenal, and I mean this is going
- 16:27Speaker 1: to be a brand to stick around for quite some
- 16:29Speaker 1: time for sure. Okay. Cool. Now, listen to what she's doing, y'all.
- 16:33Speaker 1: She's taking advantage of all the things that God has
- 16:35Speaker 1: introduced in her life mentally, physically Okay. She talked about
- 16:39Speaker 1: the skincare there was something she had to deal with personally, Okay.
- 16:43Speaker 1: Her singing career. She's been doing this since she was
- 16:45Speaker 1: a kid in church okay. And then the preservation business,
- 16:50Speaker 1: the on line five week course. It's something that she's
- 16:53Speaker 1: doing so she's not stepping out of her comfort zone.
- 16:56Speaker 1: She's just expanding the opportunities that's been built into her DNA.
- 17:00Speaker 1: So that's what I really want people to understand about it. Now.
- 17:03Speaker 1: When we're talking about launching a product like this, you know,
- 17:07Speaker 1: I don't want people just to hear it, because everybody
- 17:09Speaker 1: wants to launch a product. Everybody wants to launch some muffins,
- 17:13Speaker 1: they want to launch some food products, they want touch
- 17:17Speaker 1: all kinds of products. How did you get to the
- 17:19Speaker 1: point to be able to say I got this idea?
- 17:22Speaker 1: Did you get with a chemists? What was what enabled
- 17:25Speaker 1: you to bring this brand, which is fantastic by the way,
- 17:29Speaker 1: to where it is right now. Well, I will tell
- 17:32Speaker 1: you this, it took three years. It took three years,
- 17:36Speaker 1: um pretty much three and a half. I started working
- 17:38Speaker 1: on it in two thousand and eighteen. I didn't lunch
- 17:41Speaker 1: it until twenty twenty two. I had to go through
- 17:44Speaker 1: the process of rebranding it, you know, because of my divorce,
- 17:48Speaker 1: and so I had to see what that looked like,
- 17:51Speaker 1: what did that feel like, what felt good to me?
- 17:53Speaker 1: How was I supposed to move with the new what
- 17:55Speaker 1: was gonna be the new name, what was gonna be
- 17:57Speaker 1: the callers? I had to come up with all of
- 17:59Speaker 1: that again, and so three and a half years of work,
- 18:05Speaker 1: which meant patience because I do believe that things happen
- 18:08Speaker 1: when they're supposed to how they're supposed to. So yes,
- 18:12Speaker 1: definitely doing my research, getting with the chemist, because I
- 18:17Speaker 1: you know, you have to decide those things that are absolute,
- 18:20Speaker 1: meaning this is what has to happen. And so for me,
- 18:22Speaker 1: one of those things was it had to be USA made,
- 18:25Speaker 1: and I knew that I wanted to be a part
- 18:27Speaker 1: of the formulating process. And so what I will say is, no,
- 18:32Speaker 1: when you're starting a brand, or starting a skincare line, haircare,
- 18:36Speaker 1: whatever it may be. Stick to those core things that
- 18:41Speaker 1: you're saying that can't be changed or can't be moved.
- 18:44Speaker 1: Don't be so easily been, you know, don't being so
- 18:47Speaker 1: easily with what others may say. True enough, it may
- 18:50Speaker 1: have caused less if I just got something from overseas
- 18:52Speaker 1: and through a label line, but that's not what I
- 18:54Speaker 1: wanted to do, and that's not what I felt my
- 18:56Speaker 1: supporters what they deserved. And so stick chill no matter what,
- 19:01Speaker 1: you know what feels good to you in your hearts,
- 19:04Speaker 1: and then go after it, go full force, full fledged
- 19:08Speaker 1: after it, and allow nothing, no hindrances, no delays. I
- 19:12Speaker 1: say all the time, delayed does not mean denied. I'm
- 19:16Speaker 1: let none of that stop you from building the brand
- 19:19Speaker 1: or building the company that you know you're supposed to
- 19:23Speaker 1: be building. Well, you know the interesting point that then
- 19:25Speaker 1: this is the transition to a TV host. You know,
- 19:28Speaker 1: when she got the opportunity to to host this series.
- 19:31Speaker 1: I remember she because she came on the show and
- 19:33Speaker 1: I interviewed about it, and she was she is at
- 19:35Speaker 1: that point, she wasn't sure that that was something that
- 19:38Speaker 1: she could do, but she pushed past the fear I'm
- 19:41Speaker 1: not saying anything. We not talked on the air and interview,
- 19:44Speaker 1: and she went roushan, this is something I want to
- 19:47Speaker 1: do on the regular basis. I want to act. I
- 19:48Speaker 1: want to produce that last step because I went through
- 19:52Speaker 1: the Because we're gonna get back to parenting because that
- 19:54Speaker 1: because when you're doing all this, people want to where
- 19:57Speaker 1: the kids are? Where the kids are? So after you
- 19:58Speaker 1: ask this question, we're gonna get back to parenting, and
- 20:00Speaker 1: then we're gonna slide back over to love and marriage
- 20:03Speaker 1: Hunter Field, which airs every Saturday night a pm Eastern
- 20:06Speaker 1: Pacific on the Own Network. We won't find out what's
- 20:09Speaker 1: happening in this season. It was important on this interview
- 20:12Speaker 1: because I know they dived straight into that all the time.
- 20:14Speaker 1: She has to kind of like squeeze in this squeezing
- 20:16Speaker 1: this this is about money making conversation matter to class.
- 20:19Speaker 1: It's about talking to individuals like her who are making
- 20:22Speaker 1: the difference in our community as an entrepreneur, especially females
- 20:26Speaker 1: who are the largest and the fastest growing popular special
- 20:29Speaker 1: women of color in the entrepreneurial field. Now answer that
- 20:33Speaker 1: next question, and then we're gonna get the parent being
- 20:35Speaker 1: a host absolutely. So hosting gives me a nice break
- 20:41Speaker 1: from reality. You know, we all know that reality TV
- 20:46Speaker 1: has to have some drama and a lot of times,
- 20:50Speaker 1: you know, the cameras are there when you're in situations
- 20:53Speaker 1: that you may normally wouldn't being as quickly or you know,
- 20:57Speaker 1: as so much. You gotta go ahead and have that
- 20:58Speaker 1: conversation sometime. And so reality hosting gives me a break
- 21:03Speaker 1: from that and it allows me, you know, to just
- 21:06Speaker 1: show another side of me. So I definitely enjoyed hosting.
- 21:09Speaker 1: You know, I hosted Girlfriend's Check in her own, I
- 21:12Speaker 1: hosted Behind every Man for own, and I hosted something recently,
- 21:16Speaker 1: most recently was for Essence and Coca Cola. And so
- 21:20Speaker 1: I will say that for me, that is definitely a comfort.
- 21:23Speaker 1: Comfort zone for me is hosting. Well, she's a brand
- 21:26Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. You know, I met her. She was
- 21:29Speaker 1: just a young lady who's married, which is nothing wrong
- 21:33Speaker 1: with that. But I love the fact that she's always
- 21:37Speaker 1: been focused. And when you watch the show Love and
- 21:39Speaker 1: Marriage Huntsfield, like I said, ears every Saturday night APM
- 21:42Speaker 1: Eastern Pacific on their own network, you know, you're doing
- 21:46Speaker 1: all these things NonStop. Where does the time for the
- 21:51Speaker 1: kids fall in, Like, how do you align that relationship
- 21:53Speaker 1: because there's a lot of moms out there who want
- 21:55Speaker 1: to do what you do. How you're able to be
- 21:58Speaker 1: able to manage the love of because and the need
- 22:01Speaker 1: because I always tell people, these kids didn't ask to
- 22:03Speaker 1: come in this world. We brought them into the world absolutely. So,
- 22:07Speaker 1: for one, it's very important that you have an amazing
- 22:10Speaker 1: support system. It's important that you know you also communicate
- 22:15Speaker 1: and talk with your children. So my children know what
- 22:18Speaker 1: I'm doing, they know what I'm working on. I have
- 22:20Speaker 1: those real conversations with them, you know, I have conversations
- 22:24Speaker 1: with them about what it is that they want to
- 22:26Speaker 1: do as they get older, right, and so my hope
- 22:29Speaker 1: and prayers always that I'm knocking down doors that they
- 22:31Speaker 1: will then be able to easily walk through. So everyone
- 22:35Speaker 1: in the family understanding the assignment, so to speak, it's
- 22:39Speaker 1: really important. I can tell you that my children, they
- 22:44Speaker 1: still get their mom. We still go on vacations. I
- 22:47Speaker 1: still you know, pack them up. We'll go to the
- 22:50Speaker 1: indoor water park, We'll go to the beach, We'll go
- 22:52Speaker 1: to David Busters. I still cook. You cook the other
- 22:56Speaker 1: night their favorite Chicka Pie Pie. I still cook, I
- 23:00Speaker 1: still take them to school. Um, you know, they come
- 23:04Speaker 1: first regardless period, they come first. Well, I'm talking to
- 23:08Speaker 1: the brand Melanie Sari, the star Loving Marriage and producer.
- 23:14Speaker 1: Let me put that back. Let's slop back star and
- 23:16Speaker 1: producer Loving Marriage Hutsfield, which airs every Saturday night APM
- 23:21Speaker 1: on the own network. What is going to happen this season?
- 23:25Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna let you kind of tell it
- 23:26Speaker 1: because you know, if I might get to tell out
- 23:28Speaker 1: too many details and then I want to let you
- 23:31Speaker 1: back on my show. But it's still high powered. You're
- 23:35Speaker 1: brought up in to Africa, you know. He coming back
- 23:38Speaker 1: with all these ideas, social media posts getting people fired up,
- 23:43Speaker 1: infidelity questions, relationship questions, whoa just let everybody know, why
- 23:50Speaker 1: did you do the show and how did you guys
- 23:52Speaker 1: come to come together as a couple before we start
- 23:55Speaker 1: talking about what's happening in this season? Absolutely so. He
- 24:00Speaker 1: pitched a show to Carlos King My X and nine
- 24:04Speaker 1: and had a consultation with him, pitched the show to
- 24:07Speaker 1: him and in the midst of that and once we agreed,
- 24:10Speaker 1: you know, to go with his production company to get
- 24:12Speaker 1: us a show. It took us about three years of
- 24:15Speaker 1: us selling Huntsville to him. I would test Carlos all
- 24:18Speaker 1: the time and let him know what was going on
- 24:20Speaker 1: in the city and what was going down in terms
- 24:23Speaker 1: of how the city was growing. And eventually he sent
- 24:26Speaker 1: us a contract. He was like, look, we put together
- 24:29Speaker 1: a sizzel for him, send it to him, and he said,
- 24:30Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I want to sign you. Guys. I
- 24:32Speaker 1: don't want you to sign with anybody else. I want
- 24:33Speaker 1: to work with you. He sent a contract that day
- 24:37Speaker 1: we signed it. It gave him a certain time frame
- 24:40Speaker 1: to get the show picked up. The next conversation we
- 24:43Speaker 1: had was, hey, look, I'm getting some great feedback, but
- 24:47Speaker 1: I am really great at getting ensemble soul. What do
- 24:50Speaker 1: you guys think about doing an ensemble? Do you have
- 24:53Speaker 1: any friends that you maybe want to bring along? And
- 24:56Speaker 1: so at that point we presented several friends to him.
- 24:59Speaker 1: You know that we several couples that we knew, and
- 25:02Speaker 1: they went through the process of interviewing them and talking
- 25:04Speaker 1: with them and you know, deciding how they wanted to
- 25:07Speaker 1: go and so, um, you know, that's where we are.
- 25:11Speaker 1: That's how we're here with love and marriage Huntsville. I
- 25:14Speaker 1: think for me, the the idea from the beginning was
- 25:17Speaker 1: really to show a young, young black couples who were
- 25:21Speaker 1: successful doing things in the community, working hard to you know,
- 25:27Speaker 1: enhance the community as much as possible, while also showing
- 25:30Speaker 1: real life issues that are happened in relationships and that
- 25:33Speaker 1: happened with friendships, and just being transparent, transparent, honest and
- 25:38Speaker 1: open um about life like a reality TV show that
- 25:42Speaker 1: is actually real, that is transparent. That was the goal
- 25:47Speaker 1: and authentic. And I and you also change the game
- 25:50Speaker 1: because you went from that big city format and I'm
- 25:52Speaker 1: not gonna I'm not being negga around to say that,
- 25:54Speaker 1: you know. And am I calling Huntsville a small town
- 25:56Speaker 1: but a smaller city? You know? Yeah, But if you
- 25:59Speaker 1: ever go hunts Field, which is the home of NASA,
- 26:03Speaker 1: very well educated, you go there, they got everything it is.
- 26:06Speaker 1: It is a baby version of Atlanta, you know when
- 26:09Speaker 1: I'm talking about the the the the lifestyle, the education
- 26:14Speaker 1: level and the h and the job availability. It's a
- 26:17Speaker 1: beautiful city. I went there many times. I was fortunate
- 26:19Speaker 1: to go through when I was when I was being
- 26:21Speaker 1: an entertainer. And so with that being said, what should
- 26:25Speaker 1: we expect, Melody, sheari, what is season four? And why
- 26:29Speaker 1: should we look? I know why because I'm watching you,
- 26:33Speaker 1: But why should we love some season for up? In
- 26:38Speaker 1: one word, it would be whirlwind? Whirlwind? Yeah, um, and
- 26:43Speaker 1: you thought last season was something else? After that reunion
- 26:47Speaker 1: that has happened and everything else that's going on, honey,
- 26:49Speaker 1: you better buffle up for season four? Okayason four? Well,
- 26:54Speaker 1: you know, like I said, you know, that's why I
- 26:55Speaker 1: wanted to let everybody here how it started, so you
- 26:58Speaker 1: can see that, know some of the manipulations, some of
- 27:01Speaker 1: the production. You know, you get into these projects and
- 27:04Speaker 1: you don't know your journey and their journey. Unfortunately, and
- 27:08Speaker 1: melody situation has led to a divorce, situation played out
- 27:11Speaker 1: in the public side, played out in the social media.
- 27:13Speaker 1: But it didn't break her. It didn't break her spirit,
- 27:17Speaker 1: didn't break her relationships. And know that that's important because
- 27:20Speaker 1: you got a lot of haters out there, and these
- 27:22Speaker 1: haters are trying to manipulate the system and make people
- 27:24Speaker 1: feel that they're wrong. Again, Melanie, sure read as always,
- 27:29Speaker 1: you bring God, you dropped the gems, you dropped the enthusiasm,
- 27:33Speaker 1: and just watch our relationship grow and you know, you
- 27:36Speaker 1: have a home here money making conversations masterclass. I was
- 27:39Speaker 1: a board to show tell them of sending those those videos.
- 27:42Speaker 1: Tell me now, I said, you can't tell me about
- 27:45Speaker 1: the song. Drop otherwise out to put that in my newsletter.
- 27:48Speaker 1: But that's all right. I'm gonna with a little hate
- 27:49Speaker 1: knowing you you could have thrown your bar Richard. Can
- 27:52Speaker 1: you drop this first? I say, you need to apologize.
- 27:54Speaker 1: You need to apologize, d em men with everything else.
- 27:58Speaker 1: But again, tell them to send me something video so
- 28:00Speaker 1: I can drop in next week's newsletter. Because I've got
- 28:03Speaker 1: no banners to promote that. I got one hundred and
- 28:06Speaker 1: five thousand fan club members go out every Wednesday, and
- 28:09Speaker 1: I dropped them every week to sizzles that go out
- 28:11Speaker 1: to promote the upcoming episode. Because I believe in you.
- 28:14Speaker 1: I love the people on the show. You are my
- 28:17Speaker 1: number one on that show. I will protect you. I
- 28:19Speaker 1: will support you keeping who you are. You are a
- 28:22Speaker 1: blessing and what can I say? A star of what
- 28:27Speaker 1: we needed? You know? Will you represent a lot of
- 28:30Speaker 1: great things and keep winning? Okay, thank you for coming
- 28:32Speaker 1: to my show, melodist. You wonderful. If you want to
- 28:37Speaker 1: hear or see any of my interviews on money making Conversations.
- 28:40Speaker 1: Please go to Moneymaking Conversation dot com. Ra Sean McDonald,
- 28:43Speaker 1: I am your host. We'll be right back with more
- 28:45Speaker 1: money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. You are now
- 28:51Speaker 1: tuned into the money Making Conversations. Minute of Inspiration with
- 28:55Speaker 1: Rashaan McDonald. Hie ra Sean McDonald for Moneymaking Conversations masterclass
- 28:59Speaker 1: with your Daily Into the Inspiration. I sat down with actor,
- 29:02Speaker 1: writer and comedian Leonard Robinson. I talked about the necessity
- 29:05Speaker 1: of changing with the times as a comedian outside of
- 29:08Speaker 1: just stand up. I mean, the world is different right now.
- 29:10Speaker 1: You know, people are becoming more educated and more informed
- 29:14Speaker 1: on a lot more issues than they had to be
- 29:16Speaker 1: in the past, and with that requires a certain amount
- 29:19Speaker 1: of growth on your part as the artist and new
- 29:21Speaker 1: creative to understand where the world is right now, the
- 29:25Speaker 1: temperature of the world, and decide are you going to
- 29:27Speaker 1: grow with it or are you're gonna draw a line
- 29:29Speaker 1: in the sand and say I want to stay right
- 29:31Speaker 1: here and keep saying these things. You see it. Politically,
- 29:35Speaker 1: the last couple of years, the whole America first, bring back,
- 29:38Speaker 1: bring back the good old days, right well, when you
- 29:40Speaker 1: say things like that, well good for who? But you
- 29:43Speaker 1: know you can listen to this full interview with Leonard
- 29:45Speaker 1: Robinson is available on Moneymaking Conversations dot com. Now, let's
- 29:49Speaker 1: return to money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. They're here,
- 29:55Speaker 1: I've We're going to talk about a couple of my
- 29:57Speaker 1: favorite that cuts on their single The Project. My guests
- 30:01Speaker 1: on money Making Conversations Masterclass of Grammy nominated jazz dual
- 30:04Speaker 1: Marcus and Gene Baylor for the new album The Bailor
- 30:07Speaker 1: Project Generations. The Baila Project a husband and a wife,
- 30:11Speaker 1: an astounding duo built on love, faith, family, culture, and community.
- 30:16Speaker 1: As the children of pastors, Marcus and Jean's musical roots
- 30:20Speaker 1: were planted deeply within the church and it was there
- 30:22Speaker 1: that the role was paid for the influence of jazz, gospel,
- 30:25Speaker 1: blues and soul to make its mark. Please work with
- 30:28Speaker 1: the Money Making Conversations Masterclass Marcus and Jane Baylor. How
- 30:32Speaker 1: are you doing? Hello? Hello? Well, I hope, I hope.
- 30:37Speaker 1: I did did you justice buy that intro? Because the
- 30:40Speaker 1: music is uh? I'm telling you man, y'all, y'all, y'all
- 30:44Speaker 1: are doing something. You know, jazz. It's it's jazz, but
- 30:48Speaker 1: is a mix of something else. I am I missing
- 30:50Speaker 1: something when I say that, Marcus and Jene, Nope, you're
- 30:53Speaker 1: not missing anything. I mean, first of all, thank you
- 30:58Speaker 1: for the amazing introduction. Um. The other thing is that
- 31:02Speaker 1: it's music that's born out of our community. So jazz,
- 31:06Speaker 1: you know, the blues it's there, you know, gospel is there,
- 31:08Speaker 1: you know, R and B. All those things are the
- 31:11Speaker 1: roots of our music that makes up who we are
- 31:13Speaker 1: as the people. Right before I get into your background.
- 31:15Speaker 1: And like I said, I may be late to the party,
- 31:19Speaker 1: but I'm at the party that with the Baylor Project, okay,
- 31:22Speaker 1: want you know, and there's two songs that really their
- 31:26Speaker 1: own mind that there are two songs that really stand
- 31:27Speaker 1: out for me that I listened to and uh and
- 31:30Speaker 1: that that really I thought, really talk is what I'm
- 31:34Speaker 1: talking about. How diverse the sound is. It's called Only
- 31:37Speaker 1: Believe featuring the Jamison Ross and then black Boy. You
- 31:41Speaker 1: know Black Bok got that trumpet sliding through that, the piano, strings,
- 31:45Speaker 1: that drum, you know they all it is in The
- 31:48Speaker 1: beat is just a slow melodic tune that builds up
- 31:51Speaker 1: to the vocals are just are just slid in at
- 31:54Speaker 1: different moments. Those two songs Only Believe in Black Boy.
- 31:58Speaker 1: Can we talk about the evolution and the process of
- 32:01Speaker 1: creating those really really different songs on the same project,
- 32:05Speaker 1: which is the Baila Project. Yes, oh wow, you picked
- 32:10Speaker 1: um two very diverse songs. I love it those two.
- 32:15Speaker 1: You know, when we approach an album in general, we
- 32:18Speaker 1: really approach it as a body of work, and we
- 32:20Speaker 1: really take our time to kind of basically live and
- 32:25Speaker 1: allow the songs and ideas to come to us and
- 32:28Speaker 1: then we're able to develop them. Um. So Only Believe.
- 32:33Speaker 1: I think that actually kind of came early on and
- 32:37Speaker 1: I didn't think it was gonna work on the album,
- 32:40Speaker 1: and Marcus was like, yes, anyway, shame on you, Shame
- 32:43Speaker 1: on you. That is my favorite. That is the I
- 32:45Speaker 1: can't say that that's a love song. I love. I'm
- 32:47Speaker 1: an NPR. I can't endorse it. I apologize. I slipped
- 32:52Speaker 1: over the curve, I slipped over the lake. But only
- 32:55Speaker 1: Believe is a song that stood out on the album.
- 32:58Speaker 1: It's all the music stands out. But like anybody who
- 33:01Speaker 1: listens to music, you always have a favorite song that
- 33:03Speaker 1: just grabs you and his holes onto you. Emotionally takes
- 33:06Speaker 1: you on the journey. Because what I've taken from listening
- 33:09Speaker 1: to the music, you guys, when I say you guys
- 33:12Speaker 1: Marcus and Gane Baylor great storytellers. Wow, thank you, thank you.
- 33:18Speaker 1: That's really kind of what we aim to do is
- 33:20Speaker 1: tell stories through our songs. But there we are aimed
- 33:24Speaker 1: to tell stories that are true and authentic, not only
- 33:27Speaker 1: to us but to other people. And a good friend
- 33:32Speaker 1: of ours, Andre guests he um he described this. He
- 33:36Speaker 1: wrote a line of notes and he described the album
- 33:39Speaker 1: as a soul full sonic story quilt I believe, Yeah,
- 33:43Speaker 1: and you know just how it was all weave together
- 33:46Speaker 1: with the different songs and how it was like, um
- 33:50Speaker 1: he had specific ideas and concepts and themes, but then
- 33:54Speaker 1: it's still had. It was like about the universality of
- 33:58Speaker 1: the human condition. So even though it's very particular, allowing
- 34:03Speaker 1: the terials, very particular to the Black community, the concepts
- 34:08Speaker 1: and things are those that really anybody can relate to. Yeah,
- 34:13Speaker 1: that Gard And also I mean this has truly been
- 34:16Speaker 1: a journey for us. I mean before we were married,
- 34:20Speaker 1: m I was a drummer. Well well while while we
- 34:23Speaker 1: were married as well, but I was the drummer in
- 34:26Speaker 1: the Yellow Jacket and Gene come out of an R
- 34:29Speaker 1: and B duo across Jan Nate's and so there's a
- 34:33Speaker 1: whole history of our you know, where we have come
- 34:36Speaker 1: from in terms of what we've been doing in the
- 34:39Speaker 1: music business. But at the same time been blessed to
- 34:42Speaker 1: just be mentored by some of the you know, the
- 34:45Speaker 1: legends and just people that inspire us, you know daily,
- 34:49Speaker 1: and we started on our shoulders. Well, one of the
- 34:51Speaker 1: reasons I created I've been blessed to be able to
- 34:54Speaker 1: have a show like Mony main conversation masterclass. I get
- 34:57Speaker 1: people to talk about their dreams, with their coming their fears,
- 35:00Speaker 1: you know, walking through the unknown. Dog faith plays a
- 35:03Speaker 1: major role in that because you already said both of you,
- 35:06Speaker 1: both of you came from groups, and groups can allow
- 35:08Speaker 1: you to you know, standing back and lean on somebody
- 35:11Speaker 1: for support, and sometimes they don't give you the support
- 35:15Speaker 1: that you want, but it's still somebody you can talk
- 35:16Speaker 1: to to step out as individuals and do what you do.
- 35:21Speaker 1: Talk about that journey, well, it's I mean, I know
- 35:27Speaker 1: Gene can definitely add to this, but I guess for us,
- 35:30Speaker 1: I mean, we started our own label alike be alike.
- 35:34Speaker 1: And it started at the beginning just for us stepping
- 35:37Speaker 1: out as the bill of project and starting from that
- 35:39Speaker 1: first gig of just playing for a set of fifty people,
- 35:43Speaker 1: and so to see how this journey has moved forward.
- 35:46Speaker 1: And now we're blessed to be Grammy nominated this year
- 35:50Speaker 1: for our album Generations. And actually this is our fourth
- 35:54Speaker 1: Grammy nomination within what past four years, twenty eight pey,
- 36:00Speaker 1: So you can add more to it, you know, yeah, Marcus,
- 36:04Speaker 1: you could you could talk Mark just not we go
- 36:06Speaker 1: just not a five minute interview. Now you can talk now.
- 36:11Speaker 1: You know he's just gonna throw it off, like I'm
- 36:13Speaker 1: gonna cut him off. You know, you know they only
- 36:14Speaker 1: got about three more minutes. You know, this show us
- 36:19Speaker 1: built to tell your story. This just show us built
- 36:22Speaker 1: to talk about your journey. Because I want people to
- 36:24Speaker 1: understand a lot of people want to be you. There
- 36:26Speaker 1: are a lot of people who have dreams cut off
- 36:28Speaker 1: because somewhere along the line somebody said, go get a
- 36:32Speaker 1: job that's not you know, you're too old, or you're
- 36:35Speaker 1: or you're you're you're the wrong size, wrong color. You know,
- 36:38Speaker 1: you can't sing. Nobody wants you to. Because I know
- 36:41Speaker 1: because those things were said to me. I remember as
- 36:43Speaker 1: my career as a stand up comedian. I remember early
- 36:46Speaker 1: on this guy I can tell you his name, Paul Mento.
- 36:50Speaker 1: He was the owner of this comedy club in Houston.
- 36:52Speaker 1: And I came off the stage and if to a
- 36:55Speaker 1: standing ovation. He said, um, he said, you know, you
- 36:57Speaker 1: could be a little bit funnier if people understand you.
- 37:01Speaker 1: I go, huh, he said, you know you're you're you're
- 37:03Speaker 1: not really clear when you talk. I go, but they
- 37:07Speaker 1: but they're laughing. He said, you said just a note,
- 37:11Speaker 1: just a note, you know, you know, but you it's
- 37:14Speaker 1: a business. You're not gonna make it in you know,
- 37:15Speaker 1: because nobody want to ever understand you. So I know
- 37:18Speaker 1: that happened to me. And that's why I can just
- 37:20Speaker 1: say this to people that when people questioning, well, you know,
- 37:24Speaker 1: my success and well, you know, how did you make it?
- 37:27Speaker 1: I had to overcome people telling me to quit that
- 37:29Speaker 1: this wasn't for you. And so I know along the way,
- 37:32Speaker 1: you know, I said earlier, your pastor kids, and so
- 37:35Speaker 1: sometimes when your pastor kids, people talk like your favorite
- 37:37Speaker 1: you know, you didn't work hard and things of those things,
- 37:40Speaker 1: and uh, and so that's why I wanted to make sure, Marcus,
- 37:43Speaker 1: you tell us your story because I'm gonna get to Gene.
- 37:45Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you probably on the other side of
- 37:47Speaker 1: the break, depending on how hard you talk. So continue, Marcus. So,
- 37:56Speaker 1: I mean, so basically the journey, I mean, so the
- 37:58Speaker 1: thing about it is is that I think it's you know,
- 38:02Speaker 1: one thing that I tell people is that when you
- 38:05Speaker 1: have a dream and a go, it starts with a dream,
- 38:07Speaker 1: but you have to be consistent and persistent. And so
- 38:13Speaker 1: in saying that, it's almost like the thing about it
- 38:17Speaker 1: is is that you tweak your you tweak whatever your
- 38:20Speaker 1: business or whatever you're doing alone the way, but stay
- 38:23Speaker 1: consistent at it, like because a lot of times is
- 38:25Speaker 1: that I meet people, we meet people in the industry
- 38:29Speaker 1: or just in business in general that they're one thing,
- 38:31Speaker 1: they're doing this today tomorrow, Like well, man, I'm selling insurance,
- 38:35Speaker 1: you know. So it's like nothing wrong with that. But
- 38:37Speaker 1: my thing is that your dream really boils down to
- 38:41Speaker 1: your purpose, and if you understand your purpose, that's what
- 38:44Speaker 1: keeps you going. Because one thing I will tell you
- 38:46Speaker 1: this is that I learned that motivation and inspiration on
- 38:52Speaker 1: the journey comes and go, but What keeps me going
- 38:55Speaker 1: daily is the purpose. One thing. I understand what my
- 38:58Speaker 1: purpose is. Then it's like okay, whether I'm tired, whether um,
- 39:03Speaker 1: you know, it's like okay, man, no, you gotta keep going.
- 39:05Speaker 1: You almost there. I mean the Bella project, I mean
- 39:08Speaker 1: it started with you know, now we're blessed the tour
- 39:11Speaker 1: and and you know have a fucking age in and
- 39:14Speaker 1: and and but everything started with us doing everything ourselves.
- 39:19Speaker 1: We booked ourselves, were we did all the I mean you,
- 39:24Speaker 1: I mean you, you know how it is, you you
- 39:26Speaker 1: name it absolutely, drums a gig, you know, the whole nine.
- 39:33Speaker 1: So what's that being said. I think it's really understanding
- 39:36Speaker 1: the journey because it doesn't happen overnight. As much as
- 39:39Speaker 1: we would like it too, it doesn't happen overnight. It's
- 39:42Speaker 1: a process. Well, the thing that I love about this
- 39:45Speaker 1: story is so relatable to you know, nothing's easy, nothing
- 39:50Speaker 1: during there there are hungry nights, he's he'll tell you
- 39:52Speaker 1: that they're hungry days. There days when you sit on
- 39:54Speaker 1: the other side of the bed and you and you
- 39:56Speaker 1: your feet on the floor but your body don't want
- 39:58Speaker 1: to get up. Days where where you you actually just cry.
- 40:03Speaker 1: You cry not so much out of fear, it just frustration.
- 40:06Speaker 1: It's fear us because you know, fear drives that frustration.
- 40:09Speaker 1: And I should say that because that fear the unknown.
- 40:12Speaker 1: Have I made the right decision? But what what what
- 40:15Speaker 1: keeps you going is faith but also a plan. You
- 40:19Speaker 1: gotta have that plan everybody. You cannot just walk out
- 40:22Speaker 1: that door and not have an objective because talent would
- 40:25Speaker 1: only get you so far. In the bottom line, you
- 40:28Speaker 1: gotta surround yourself with people who believe in the same
- 40:31Speaker 1: journey you're trying to make. Let me repeat that one
- 40:35Speaker 1: more time. You gotta surround yourself with people who want
- 40:39Speaker 1: to make the same journey with you. And I would
- 40:41Speaker 1: tell you back at ninety two, I didn't get that.
- 40:44Speaker 1: I didn't get what people saw in me, Marcus and Gene.
- 40:47Speaker 1: And so that is why this interview that with doing
- 40:50Speaker 1: now is so important because of the fact that I
- 40:53Speaker 1: want people to hear your story when when we talk
- 40:56Speaker 1: all about the journey, you know, we all I know,
- 41:01Speaker 1: I'll tell people I grew up in the hood and
- 41:03Speaker 1: I always see things on TV. And I always felt
- 41:07Speaker 1: that what I saw TV I could actually be a
- 41:10Speaker 1: part of I guess that was That's what helped me out.
- 41:12Speaker 1: Always I was a dreamer that really believed that, you know,
- 41:16Speaker 1: if I worked hard and stay focused, the dream of
- 41:20Speaker 1: me being something other than where I was living could
- 41:22Speaker 1: actually happen. So when I when I say that, Marcus
- 41:25Speaker 1: in Gene, what was your driving force for you? Set
- 41:28Speaker 1: your parents, see the culture that you grew up in.
- 41:31Speaker 1: What was your driving force that inspired you to this point?
- 41:34Speaker 1: And guess what? The journey isn't over it, it's just
- 41:36Speaker 1: another starting point because both for you a goal oriented.
- 41:38Speaker 1: I tell people that all the time, a goal and
- 41:41Speaker 1: what drives that? What is the drive for the journey?
- 41:46Speaker 1: I would say. Starting out, for me, it was just
- 41:49Speaker 1: the love of music. UM, anywhere that I could sing,
- 41:54Speaker 1: whether it was the choiring church or the choiring school,
- 41:58Speaker 1: the league club, consequence, our magical talent shows, wherever I
- 42:02Speaker 1: could sing, because I just love doing it so much.
- 42:05Speaker 1: It wasn't didn't represent work at that point, UM, I
- 42:09Speaker 1: just did it. And UM you know that's still part
- 42:14Speaker 1: of the drive. But of course it's developed over years.
- 42:17Speaker 1: UM and as Marcus mentioned, purpose that's like hugely important
- 42:22Speaker 1: to me, UM and the both of us and also
- 42:25Speaker 1: UM in business of course, business finance is that kind
- 42:29Speaker 1: of thing. That's the drive as well. Um, but you
- 42:32Speaker 1: know it kind of grows and develops and changes a
- 42:34Speaker 1: bit the old as you as you get older, and um,
- 42:37Speaker 1: but it's it's definitely the drive and love for music,
- 42:41Speaker 1: but um, the purpose and the passion for it and
- 42:46Speaker 1: um and you mentioned something, Um what was it? Oh?
- 42:52Speaker 1: Excuse me? Um, just kind of seeing yourself in different spaces,
- 42:57Speaker 1: like growing up. I grew up in a little small
- 42:59Speaker 1: town Sound, Jersey, so I didn't I wasn't connected to
- 43:02Speaker 1: the music industry whatsoever. So I didn't even have a
- 43:06Speaker 1: concept that you know, if I saw a music video,
- 43:10Speaker 1: you know, a MTV back then, Soul Trains it, I
- 43:14Speaker 1: love the scene, but I never thought, oh yeah, I
- 43:17Speaker 1: could go and do that because I was not anywhere
- 43:20Speaker 1: in any proximity too close to it. As I didn't
- 43:23Speaker 1: even know, you know, their arts high schools were for real.
- 43:26Speaker 1: I was watching Fame like man, that shit was not
- 43:28Speaker 1: to go. It just kind of I found it and
- 43:34Speaker 1: it found me. Marcus has a little bit of a
- 43:36Speaker 1: different story because he definitely had to have a lot
- 43:39Speaker 1: of drive to break through some barriers. Well. Well, both well,
- 43:43Speaker 1: the thing about like like you said before both the
- 43:45Speaker 1: gene and are both preachers kids, pastors kids. So Jene
- 43:50Speaker 1: grew up her dad was a pastor of a Baptist church.
- 43:55Speaker 1: I grew up where my dad was a pastor of
- 43:57Speaker 1: a Pentecostal Apostolic church. So what that means is back
- 44:03Speaker 1: then there was no other music allowed. Well, your mom
- 44:07Speaker 1: wasn't play in either, Jane, but there was no other
- 44:09Speaker 1: music allowed in our house other than gospel music. Absolutely.
- 44:13Speaker 1: And so with that being said, but this is the
- 44:16Speaker 1: other side. My mom my dad only had like maybe
- 44:19Speaker 1: a seventh grade or six or seventh or eighth grade education,
- 44:23Speaker 1: and he came from Mississippi, and you know, for a
- 44:26Speaker 1: better life for the family. And so with that being said,
- 44:29Speaker 1: I mean later on in life he gave his life
- 44:32Speaker 1: to the Lord and he ended up pastoring. But they
- 44:36Speaker 1: started my dad's church before I was born. I'm the
- 44:39Speaker 1: youngest of nine children. His church literally started in my parents'
- 44:43Speaker 1: house where they had a baptismal pool in the basement.
- 44:46Speaker 1: So that's the beginning of me hearing those stories was
- 44:50Speaker 1: the beginning of me understanding what drive is. And then
- 44:53Speaker 1: while I was a kid, my mom had been forty two,
- 44:57Speaker 1: so I hung out with my dad a lot, so
- 44:59Speaker 1: he would pick up all the members for church. He
- 45:03Speaker 1: would be setting up tents. I mean, my father was
- 45:06Speaker 1: only about five foot three four, about the same height,
- 45:09Speaker 1: and he would say, hell, I get out the way
- 45:11Speaker 1: I do it. And so you're talking about when you
- 45:15Speaker 1: watch him, you're talking about drives and somebody just working
- 45:19Speaker 1: and just really serving the people and just working hard.
- 45:23Speaker 1: I think that's what the beginning of me understanding what
- 45:28Speaker 1: it takes to have the drives and the passion and
- 45:31Speaker 1: the work ethic. We'll be right back with more Money
- 45:34Speaker 1: Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. Now let's return to
- 45:41Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. You gotta tell
- 45:47Speaker 1: us how did you start making that music shift and
- 45:51Speaker 1: when did you introduce that music shift to the family. Oo. Wow,
- 45:56Speaker 1: that's a great not as I'm gonna bring it in.
- 46:00Speaker 1: I started playing, so I became I started playing drums
- 46:03Speaker 1: at the age of two, and I became the church
- 46:05Speaker 1: drummer at the age of five. So when I got
- 46:07Speaker 1: to home, you all in, you all in back there,
- 46:10Speaker 1: two years old? Back there, Yeah, yeah, it was you know, yeah,
- 46:15Speaker 1: it was so once I got to high school. I
- 46:17Speaker 1: think I had a buddy take me to my first
- 46:20Speaker 1: introduced me to the Yellow Jackets when I was in
- 46:22Speaker 1: middle school. And actually he's a pastor now and a
- 46:25Speaker 1: buddy by the name of Chris Kayer introduced me to
- 46:28Speaker 1: the music. He introduced you to the music, and then
- 46:31Speaker 1: it ran back to the church. He did. Yeah, basically no,
- 46:37Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean it was like and then later
- 46:40Speaker 1: on I had a buddy didn't changed my life. He
- 46:43Speaker 1: took me to my first jazz club and it was Olden.
- 46:46Speaker 1: I snuck out and from there. I don't know why
- 46:50Speaker 1: my parents, why my mom has this because my dad
- 46:52Speaker 1: passed away when I was nine, and so I don't
- 46:54Speaker 1: know why my mom had this. But I had a bed,
- 46:56Speaker 1: I had a door in my bedroom, so I would
- 46:59Speaker 1: literally sneak out to go here jazz music. And by
- 47:03Speaker 1: high school I had older mentors that said, hey, man,
- 47:07Speaker 1: you need to start doing some gigs, and so they
- 47:09Speaker 1: will call me while I was in high school to
- 47:12Speaker 1: go play some gigs. And that's where that's when the
- 47:16Speaker 1: bug bit me. And the thing about it is, I'm
- 47:18Speaker 1: trying to really figure this out, is that a lot
- 47:22Speaker 1: of times is that when you have resistance in terms
- 47:25Speaker 1: of I remember my family even at that time they said, hey, man,
- 47:29Speaker 1: drummers come a dime a dozen. But in my mind,
- 47:32Speaker 1: I'm thinking like, well, I'm gonna be that dime in
- 47:34Speaker 1: a dozen. So I think parents not just handing everything
- 47:38Speaker 1: to you sometimes. You know, it's kind of it's kind
- 47:42Speaker 1: of weird. It's almost like it makes you want it
- 47:45Speaker 1: more and it makes you go after it. Like I
- 47:47Speaker 1: had a conversation with a family member to day and
- 47:51Speaker 1: he talked about, you know, we talked about having a
- 47:55Speaker 1: plan B. I'm gonna be honest with you. I mean,
- 47:58Speaker 1: I told him this because I always flattered them, because
- 48:00Speaker 1: I love basketball. I said, actually, my plan A was
- 48:03Speaker 1: to make it to the NBA. But at the agent,
- 48:06Speaker 1: probably nine ten on about eleven, my brother told me
- 48:09Speaker 1: I was wasn't going to make it to the NBA.
- 48:11Speaker 1: Show dream killer dream killer? Huh yeah? He dream killer
- 48:15Speaker 1: and a dream killer or a truth tellers mugsy balls.
- 48:21Speaker 1: He making it. He made it to the NBA five
- 48:22Speaker 1: foot three. Now, come on, see he hit him and
- 48:25Speaker 1: self whatever that was, okay, But I'm just saying, I mean,
- 48:31Speaker 1: what is the percentage have been a musician? Okay? A
- 48:34Speaker 1: while liar, I would say this so so to bring
- 48:38Speaker 1: it all in, I just I feel like this, like
- 48:41Speaker 1: I'm thinking about people that have a plan B And
- 48:43Speaker 1: I'm not saying I believe you should have a plan BNC.
- 48:45Speaker 1: But for me, in my mind, most people that I
- 48:48Speaker 1: know that has a plan of a that means their
- 48:51Speaker 1: resistance and their drive a lot of times it's not
- 48:53Speaker 1: going to quit when they know they purpose because I
- 48:56Speaker 1: don't believe then. I mean, I told my family. They
- 48:58Speaker 1: was like, hey, you go to school for music in
- 49:00Speaker 1: New York. I went to music school in New York,
- 49:02Speaker 1: and so they were like, you know, I told my mom,
- 49:04Speaker 1: ye I'm going there. Yea, I can teach, you know,
- 49:06Speaker 1: that's the plan be to them. When I in my mind,
- 49:09Speaker 1: I was like, man, I'm going to New York to
- 49:11Speaker 1: play with the great and I want to tour and
- 49:13Speaker 1: do music for a living. That's what my mind was
- 49:15Speaker 1: saying to me the whole time. And I agree with you.
- 49:18Speaker 1: I remember when I but my degree is in mathematics.
- 49:21Speaker 1: I worked for IBM, and I left IBM to be
- 49:23Speaker 1: a stand up comedian and so I so in my mind,
- 49:28Speaker 1: I always I could always go back. That was my
- 49:30Speaker 1: plan b was sitting in the back of my mind,
- 49:32Speaker 1: this jokey joke things, I'm not gonna be the next
- 49:34Speaker 1: Eddie Murphy, next Richard pryor then I could always go back,
- 49:38Speaker 1: you know I was. I didn't leave with no discard.
- 49:41Speaker 1: You know they were crying when I walked out the door.
- 49:44Speaker 1: But it was when I decided, you know, going back
- 49:47Speaker 1: was not an option. That commitment you have to one
- 49:50Speaker 1: time in your life. If you say you're gonna go
- 49:52Speaker 1: to college, if you say you're gonna get married, you
- 49:55Speaker 1: say you're gonna be in a relationship, you're saying you're
- 49:57Speaker 1: gonna have a cheer. That's about commitment and when you
- 50:00Speaker 1: make that commitment. That's why I always trying to shape
- 50:02Speaker 1: these stories that really they can line up in anything
- 50:06Speaker 1: that you do, whether it's losing weight or getting in shape,
- 50:10Speaker 1: or getting married or dating or having children, or job
- 50:15Speaker 1: or starting their business, all these variables really align themselves
- 50:20Speaker 1: to the same conversation. It's commitment, and if you're gonna
- 50:23Speaker 1: have a committed effort, it has to be tied to goals.
- 50:27Speaker 1: And when you tie things to goals, then your dreams
- 50:31Speaker 1: can become a reality. And that's where people make the
- 50:35Speaker 1: mistake all the time. They have all these dreams, no commitment,
- 50:39Speaker 1: They have all these dreams, no goals, and guess what happens.
- 50:43Speaker 1: Frustration sets in. Then they says, become the kings of
- 50:47Speaker 1: your conversation. And next thing you know, you're sitting back depressed,
- 50:52Speaker 1: not and next thing you know, you're forty years old
- 50:54Speaker 1: saying I wish I should have done this. Fifty years old,
- 50:58Speaker 1: I could have done this sixty years old? You mad?
- 51:01Speaker 1: You mad? Yeah, and just all your stories about what
- 51:04Speaker 1: you could have done. When I tell people, do not
- 51:07Speaker 1: use age as an excuse. If you have a dream,
- 51:11Speaker 1: you can still do that for me, and you still
- 51:13Speaker 1: got talents associated with it that we do it. Yes,
- 51:18Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this. I gotta say this. So
- 51:21Speaker 1: you just mentioned something. You just talked about age, So
- 51:25Speaker 1: here you go. In our twenties, I was in the
- 51:30Speaker 1: Yellow Jackets. In Jean's twenties, she was in Johanna. So
- 51:35Speaker 1: when we started this independent Grind started all the way
- 51:39Speaker 1: back in two thousand and five. Jean left left the
- 51:45Speaker 1: group Johnny I think in two thousand or something like that.
- 51:48Speaker 1: So I'm saying all that to say this. Two thousand
- 51:50Speaker 1: and five all way up to two thousand and seventeen
- 51:53Speaker 1: was nothing was building and starting our independent journey. Now
- 52:00Speaker 1: we went to labels, we did all that, nothing happened.
- 52:05Speaker 1: We put out some independents, spent money, we lost money,
- 52:10Speaker 1: made bad decisions, and you know, just in terms of that,
- 52:13Speaker 1: it was like the education process, like getting a master's degree.
- 52:18Speaker 1: So yes, so so basically I was saying that, you know,
- 52:22Speaker 1: we made decisions. And the fast forward from two thousand
- 52:26Speaker 1: and five now comes two thousand and a round fourteen
- 52:31Speaker 1: and I took a long shower and it hit me
- 52:35Speaker 1: and said, hey, we should start this band called the
- 52:38Speaker 1: Build a Project where you know, at the time when
- 52:41Speaker 1: I left the Yellow Jackets, I wasn't doing as much touring.
- 52:44Speaker 1: I was doing more production and producing in the studio.
- 52:46Speaker 1: Gene and I and I just said, I want to
- 52:48Speaker 1: get back to playing Gene and you know you can
- 52:51Speaker 1: you know where it features me on drums and you're singing.
- 52:54Speaker 1: You know, we have a full band and everything. And
- 52:56Speaker 1: so I said, man, that would really be cool. And
- 52:59Speaker 1: she said that is the dumbest idea. Okay, don't worry
- 53:04Speaker 1: about it. We're gonna write some music and said, make
- 53:08Speaker 1: no sense. Okay. So this is two thy fourteen fifteen.
- 53:13Speaker 1: So we end up doing our first gig at three
- 53:18Speaker 1: shows at this place called Smoke Jazz Club. The first
- 53:21Speaker 1: set was okay. It's the thought of okay crowd, no
- 53:25Speaker 1: no off friend to bring it in. I'm gonna bring
- 53:28Speaker 1: it all in. So we did our first show. It
- 53:31Speaker 1: was okay. The first two sets was rocking, and it
- 53:34Speaker 1: was packed, and it was packed, and out of that
- 53:37Speaker 1: started a residency for like eight to nine months. So
- 53:41Speaker 1: that was the birthing of Devella Project. We're going to
- 53:43Speaker 1: studio every card and we released this album. Now, the
- 53:47Speaker 1: industry tells you, well, the industry, the way it's been
- 53:51Speaker 1: shaped for years is that it's a youngest person's industry
- 53:55Speaker 1: where your twenties, your best years, or your thirties. Check
- 54:00Speaker 1: this album. We're over our forties. Our first album drops
- 54:07Speaker 1: and comes out right. This album gets nominated for two Grammys,
- 54:13Speaker 1: Best Jazz Vocal Album and a Song laughs and move on.
- 54:18Speaker 1: It's for Best Traditional R and B Performance. Why I'm
- 54:21Speaker 1: on famous, Marcus, You're saying is because the thing about
- 54:24Speaker 1: it is is that it's never too late to go
- 54:28Speaker 1: after your goals and your dreams, right now, and I'm
- 54:31Speaker 1: gonna put it out there because a lot of times
- 54:33Speaker 1: is that the industry says that, hey man, you're you know,
- 54:36Speaker 1: age is what's in your mind, it's what's So there's
- 54:39Speaker 1: a new book that's being written, and the book is this.
- 54:43Speaker 1: I'm Marcus Baylor. I'm forty six years old. My wife Jeane.
- 54:47Speaker 1: Can I tell them your age? Baby, I'm thinking forty
- 54:49Speaker 1: six years. I'm on forty six to forty five. Okay, y'all,
- 54:53Speaker 1: I'll forget my age. I'll let you know how you
- 54:56Speaker 1: say yo because you stop counting, So that mean okay,
- 54:59Speaker 1: I'll stopped counting more and so all just start again.
- 55:03Speaker 1: Five years old and my wife Gene, it's fifty one.
- 55:08Speaker 1: So check it out. We're in two twenty two. Last year,
- 55:13Speaker 1: we had a song that was Grammy nominated call Sit
- 55:15Speaker 1: On Down for Best Traditional R and P. Performance. This year,
- 55:19Speaker 1: our album Generations is nominated for Best Jazz Vocal Album,
- 55:26Speaker 1: and we just was blessed to win an NAACP Award
- 55:29Speaker 1: this year for Best Jazz Album Vocal. Now, it ain't
- 55:34Speaker 1: about to acculate this and that, but what I'm trying
- 55:38Speaker 1: to tell you is this is that age and you
- 55:43Speaker 1: starting your goals and your dreams. And we literally started
- 55:46Speaker 1: over when we started to build a project. So I'm
- 55:49Speaker 1: saying that all to say this is that no matter
- 55:53Speaker 1: what your age is, if you have to, if you
- 55:56Speaker 1: have the breath, and I'm gonna call it to dream,
- 56:02Speaker 1: then once your dream, you got to go after that
- 56:04Speaker 1: thing and put a plan together like you said, and
- 56:08Speaker 1: pursue that and pursue those goals. And this is the thing.
- 56:11Speaker 1: Everything that we've done so far, I mean, we don't
- 56:13Speaker 1: say this too many times, but I will say this
- 56:16Speaker 1: is that everything were small goals that we put into place.
- 56:20Speaker 1: We didn't wake up one day and just say, hey man,
- 56:22Speaker 1: we want to play in front of in a theater.
- 56:24Speaker 1: Oh we want to be Grammy nominated. No, let's be
- 56:28Speaker 1: consistent and persistent when we play in front of fifty
- 56:32Speaker 1: people are when we then only sold ten tickets, Let's
- 56:36Speaker 1: play as if the place is packed in full. And
- 56:39Speaker 1: so with that being said, that's where the persistent and
- 56:42Speaker 1: consistency comes in. That and you understanding your purpose. So
- 56:46Speaker 1: hopefully this, you know, will help somebody. Well, it helped
- 56:49Speaker 1: me because that's what I talk about all the time,
- 56:52Speaker 1: and that's what I'm known for telling people ages. Don't
- 56:55Speaker 1: let age be an excuse to your dreams being achieved
- 56:59Speaker 1: and gene. You know when you talk about that only
- 57:01Speaker 1: ten people in the audience you got in front now
- 57:04Speaker 1: or that sold that audience you got in front and
- 57:06Speaker 1: you get to see those faces, You get to see
- 57:09Speaker 1: what the music and what you're doing and people reacting
- 57:12Speaker 1: to it. How do how does that affect how you
- 57:15Speaker 1: perform you know at being an entertainer or does it
- 57:19Speaker 1: take you to another level emotionally? Does that? Does that?
- 57:22Speaker 1: Does that give you a little more juice to give
- 57:25Speaker 1: one hundred one thousand, ten thousand percent talk about that
- 57:28Speaker 1: experience as a performer, So yes and no, Like when
- 57:34Speaker 1: you know you draw from the audience for sure. I
- 57:39Speaker 1: don't know if audiences really know that, but you know,
- 57:42Speaker 1: when you can feel the energy from an audience, you
- 57:44Speaker 1: know it inspires us as artists on stage, Like yeah,
- 57:48Speaker 1: you know, um, Now, one thing you know, especially in jazz,
- 57:52Speaker 1: you're gonna be in front of different audiences, right um.
- 57:56Speaker 1: And so you know, sometimes I'll talk to my m
- 58:00Speaker 1: when I teach, and sometimes I talk to telling my
- 58:03Speaker 1: students and like, listen, you gotta be able to really
- 58:06Speaker 1: you know, a song is a song, but when you
- 58:08Speaker 1: come before people, it's really a selfless act. When you
- 58:11Speaker 1: go before people to perform and sing and do what
- 58:14Speaker 1: you do if you're doing it, you know, and the
- 58:18Speaker 1: right frame of mind. But it's important to kind of
- 58:23Speaker 1: just just kind of sense the room. And so it'll
- 58:29Speaker 1: be a song where I may sing, I don't always
- 58:31Speaker 1: sing it to sing exact way every night. For instance,
- 58:36Speaker 1: there's a song called Praise Songs, Hollylujah song, and there's
- 58:40Speaker 1: a whole story behind that. But you know when we
- 58:43Speaker 1: did it in Chattanooga, Tennessee, and it was like an
- 58:46Speaker 1: all black audience. You know how we do we talk
- 58:49Speaker 1: back to it? Come on now, hey, all right now,
- 58:52Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we had a good buddy, Shedrick
- 58:55Speaker 1: Mitchell on the organ and he acts a fool when
- 58:57Speaker 1: he gets on the organ. And it was just the
- 59:00Speaker 1: whole thing. And then you know when we were in
- 59:03Speaker 1: I believe it was brought oslava. You're completely different vibe.
- 59:07Speaker 1: They do not talk to you like, hey, sing, there's
- 59:11Speaker 1: just not part of the air culture, you know, and
- 59:14Speaker 1: they could be enjoying it and you're kind of one
- 59:16Speaker 1: and well, I think, but they're listening. So understanding that
- 59:21Speaker 1: they're they're really listened. But the spirit of the room
- 59:25Speaker 1: was completely different, and the lad years sung it completely
- 59:30Speaker 1: differently we performed it that it was just it was
- 59:33Speaker 1: just a different vibe all together, um and it's just
- 59:38Speaker 1: responding to that space in the moment, and and they
- 59:42Speaker 1: definitely enjoyed it. You know. One of the ladies just
- 59:44Speaker 1: embraced me after afterwards, and she didn't speak English and
- 59:47Speaker 1: I didn't speak her language. So anyway, Yeah, it does
- 59:51Speaker 1: affect in a way, I think what you do because
- 59:54Speaker 1: you're you almost can't help it. You know, if they're
- 59:57Speaker 1: vibing with you, you're gonna be vibing right back. But
- 59:59Speaker 1: if the same time, it's not people if you're in Japan,
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: they're going to kind of express themselves differently and depending
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: on the age of the audience and that sort of thing.
- 1:00:10Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, you have to
- 1:00:12Speaker 1: kind of have an idea of what it is that
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: you are trying to um give to the audience when
- 1:00:18Speaker 1: you go out there. Sometimes you may have very discouraging
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: situations and it's important to kind of learn how to
- 1:00:27Speaker 1: handle those right. Well, I did it really badly one time.
- 1:00:33Speaker 1: Gotta I gotta figure that out. You know, being a
- 1:00:36Speaker 1: bit a performer is amazing because you're right. Sometimes I
- 1:00:40Speaker 1: have been a perform on stage. Some people give your
- 1:00:43Speaker 1: standard ovations. Some people with standing walk out. That's me talking.
- 1:00:47Speaker 1: That's a standard com gives you a different reactions. I
- 1:00:50Speaker 1: have some people I've acquired audience and say, man, you're
- 1:00:53Speaker 1: the funniest person ever saw. I said, wish you told
- 1:00:55Speaker 1: your faith okay, because I didn't see any laugh to
- 1:00:57Speaker 1: come out of your face. Okay, will help me out there,
- 1:01:01Speaker 1: but I just want to take the time. This was
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: a journey. That's what I do on Money Making Conversation
- 1:01:06Speaker 1: Masterclass and allowing me to speak to the Grammy nominated
- 1:01:09Speaker 1: jazz duo Marcus and Jane Baylor for their new album
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- 1:01:20Speaker 1: I wish you luck and on that fantastic night, and
- 1:01:24Speaker 1: again thank you for coming on Money Making Conversations Masterclass.
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- 1:01:54Speaker 1: Minute of Inspiration with Rashaan McDonald. I'm Rashan McDonald for
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- 1:02:02Speaker 1: said that. With writer and director Reggie rock Bitewood, he
- 1:02:05Speaker 1: discussed the message behind the series Swagger, having confidence and
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: living your dreams. The show's called Swagger. You know, obviously
- 1:02:12Speaker 1: on the surface that's like barbato and confidence, but really
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: underneath all of that swaggers of having a cause bigger
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: than yourself, whether your causes, your people, your family, your team,
- 1:02:24Speaker 1: having a cause bigger than yourself, it really gives you
- 1:02:27Speaker 1: that sense of purpose, that determination to move closer to
- 1:02:32Speaker 1: your dreams and your calling. And I think that's why
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: you know in Jason's Journey, Jason's journey initially is himself
- 1:02:40Speaker 1: and as we go through the narrative, it expands as
- 1:02:43Speaker 1: he expands. You can listen to this full interview Reggie
- 1:02:46Speaker 1: rock Bitewood. It's available on Moneymaking Conversations dot com.